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7/24/2016

Donald Trump Blows Himself…Kisses

Filed under: General — Dana @ 1:27 pm



[guest post by Dana]

In a spectacular demonstration of narcissism-on-steroids, Donald Trump’s new campaign ad neatly encapsulates the priorities of the Republican nominee for president:

This even as the DNC is self-destructing before our very eyes as a result of having their concerted efforts to sabotage Bernie Sanders exposed. This even as Debbie Wasserman Schultz is resigning as party leader. This even as feminists are pushing back against Hillary for selecting a “traditional Catholic” and privileged, lily-white male as her running mate. But instead of attacking Hillary on any number of these ripe-for-the-picking issues, the Republican nominee instead chose to remind Americans that he is utterly incapable of resisting the urge to blow himself kisses.

I am going to resist the urge to say that Trump should blow it out his ass, and instead remind readers that it was the politician who audaciously spoke about the inestimable worth of the Constitution, limited government, personal liberty and voting one’s conscience who was booed.

–Dana

238 Responses to “Donald Trump Blows Himself…Kisses”

  1. Unbelievable.

    Dana (995455)

  2. i’m *still* applauding!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. You do know of course that at this point, if you are attacking Trump, you are helping Hillary.

    If Trump wins and turns out to be as bad as the nevertrump crowd thinks, I will take responsibility for my part in supporting him. If Hillary is elected, I will be holding neverteumpers responsible for her presidency. Even as I know you will hold yourselves innocent and oh so principled.

    Or, you know, virtue signalling sanctimonious mental midgets replacing their common sense with their pride…

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  4. The brilliance in this is that a yugely disproportionate number of people who watched the speech reacted positively to it and it increased the likelihood that they vote for Trump.

    So, this calls others’ attention to it and makes many watch it.

    When your opponent is self-destructing, just let them.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  5. You do know of course that at this point, if you are attacking Trump, you are helping Hillary.

    The destruction is on their hands if she gets in. Trump is fighting his ass off, and has already endured an assassination attempt to try and keep Hillary out of office.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  6. He’s a hero.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  7. he’s got the itty bitty babbies in his hands

    Trump got the whole whirl in his hands!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. Except how does he compare to Obama and Clinton?

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  9. As I recall, Cruz didn’t have any major policy complaints against Trump prior to their personal quarrels. Did they? Prior to the wife stuff and the JFK stuff, the only major difference that I recall was about Cruz’s eligibility, which again is not about governing policy.

    Andrew Hyman (b12b60)

  10. America loves Obama so why shouldn’t Trump follow in his narcissism.

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  11. America loves Obama so why shouldn’t Trump follow in his narcissism.

    Fair point.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  12. Mr. Cruz was just so maladroit and awkward

    his whole campaign was just a mess

    pick a theme picklehead

    you were all constitution then you were the kim davis candidate then something about turning deserts into glass then it was all bathroom trannies then for some reason you picked a veep months before the actual nominee did even

    weird

    not judging

    but it was pretty weird

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  13. Cult of Personality cuts all ways.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  14. Cruz = maladroit

    Perfect word. Hey, I voted for him, but Ted Cruz couldn’t lead a starving dog to a mountain of Milk-Bones.

    Tom Van Dyke (4747b2)

  15. Latest polling… http://ace.mu.nu/archives/364920.php

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  16. Jut at the point where I figured you guys were as petty as possible about Trump, Elizabeth Wellington, fashion writer at the Philadelphia Inquirer beat you out for First Place with this racist tirade:

    So while [Melania] Trump appeared flawless on the Cleveland stage Monday night, whether she intended it or not, her all-white ensemble displayed the kind of foreignness that is accepted by her husband’s political party. To many, that outfit could be another reminder that in the G.O.P. white is always right.

    Four years ago, Republicans fretted about trying to diversify their base, in the wake of Barack Obama’s clear voter mandate. This time around, with Trump at the top of the ticket, it’s obvious that ship has sailed. On Monday night, Melania Trump was a not-so-subliminal billboard for what’s looking like the Trumpian view of an ideal America.

    And if that’s the fashion statement she intended to make, it’s a very scary one.

    I think we know who’s scary. But it is my hometown paper so I would expect no less.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  17. To paraphrase John Wayne in The Three Godfathers, don’t talk Canuck in front of the senator.

    Pinandpuller (03ce06)

  18. The Cruz fan boys lack and ability to see that Cruz’s personality flaws are much like Donald’s — including a bloated opinion of oneself and near pathological to misrepresent ones personal ambitions with those of the Nation.

    Ted is as much a narcissistic jackass as Trump.

    Real question is pick the jackass more likely to to what one views as key.

    On this question, Cruz lost the popular vote.

    The rest is whiny navel gazing.

    Rodney King's Spirit (603237)

  19. So Melania’s dress is waysisissssss?

    We need a Darwinian inspired pandemic in this nation.

    Our elites are beyond stupid and their readers beyond hungry for dog food.

    Rodney King's Spirit (603237)

  20. You people who are apparently agitating for a Clinton presidency… if you actually think the American people are up for four years of her strident voice and cackling, you must be clinically insane.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  21. You do realize that Trump is the Republican candidate, right? Why the heck do you keep trying to fight the primary battle that is over? Cruz lost, he is not the candidate. The semi-finals are over, we’re down to the final two, Trump and Hillary.

    Geesh it’s like going to the Superbowl between the Panthers and the Broncos but cheering for the Cardinals (who lost in the playoffs).
    Get down to the current contest, and stop wasting your time & energy on the people who fell by the wayside. Quit beating that dead horse, he’s not getting up again.

    Trump or Hillary, 2016

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  22. fred-2, nobody is forcing you to read or comment, but this is not like cheering for a football team. You are voting between Stalin and Mao. Both are evil. Neither get my vote.

    John Hitchcock (a647ad)

  23. The Richland, Washington Police have reported finding a man’s body in the Columbia River, near the confluence of the Yakima River, at Columbia park. The dead man’s name will not be released until his family has been notified.

    The victim apparently drowned due to excessive alcohol consumption. He was found wearing black fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, a pink G-string, a strap-on dildo, purple lipstick, and a ‘Hillary for President’ T-shirt. He also had a cucumber in his rectum.

    The police removed the Hillary T-shirt to spare his family any unnecessary embarrassment.

    In spite of what we are sometimes told, the police do care.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. The Richland, Washington Police have reported finding a man’s body in the Columbia River, near the confluence of the Yakima River, at Columbia park. The dead man’s name will not be released until his family has been notified.

    The victim apparently drowned due to excessive alcohol consumption. He was found wearing black fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, a pink G-string, a strap-on dild0, purple lipstick, and a ‘Hillary for President’ T-shirt. He also had a cucumber in his rect*m.

    The police removed the Hillary T-shirt to spare his family any unnecessary embarrassment.

    In spite of what we are sometimes told, the police do care.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  25. i’m *still* applauding!

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/24/2016 @ 1:32 pm

    That must be tough with only one hand free.

    L.N. Smithee (a0489d)

  26. (#23) Trump may be like Stalin and Mao personality-wise and personal-insult-wise but I strongly advise that we focus on the substance of policy positions. Is that possible? Is there such a gaping gap between Trump and Cruz policy-wise?

    Andrew Hyman (b12b60)

  27. RKS, you seem frothing with anger at Cruz. All he said was to use one’s conscience while urging Republicans to vote because of the downticket races. Hardly a betrayal… hardly even a negative thing.

    Do you really want a Republican party where the Dear Leader destroys all his republican opponents? Do you think any other candidate would be worried about Trump if he was the nominee?

    Remember most Republicans did not want Trump to be the nominee. Millions of democrats and Hillary fans in the media helped Trump leap ahead of a crowded field. Don’t pretend Trump has some kind of mandate to crush his opponents, or that this is in any way a healthy thing for the republican party.

    In fact, for all the crying from you guys about beating Hillary… you guys have a candidate that most Republicans dislike and he’s spending all his time attacking Republicans, including particularly vicious attacks against the runner up for the nomination and his family. He is making millions of voters furious with him. Those voters who condone this dictator mimicking would have voted for Trump anyway. These actions are pure political losers and horrible instincts. While my conscience will dictate one vote, Trump’s lack of conscience has changed millions. So you know who to talk to in three months when Hillary is President-Elect.

    And we already know Trump would be delighted if Hillary were president. He poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into Hillary’s campaign coffers and foundation. Millions more on other democrats like Pelsoi, Schumer, and Reid. Yeah, I know, RKS and Gerald will ignore this point, and it kinda stands out every time they act like criticizing Trump is outright support for Hillary, while they condone actual outright support for Hillary in the man they intend to vote for.

    I explained to Gerald A a couple of days ago how these patterns, Trump’s praised of amnesty, the assault weapons ban, waiting periods for firearms purchases, planned parenthood, and his need to insert qualifying language in his judicial appointment pledge were grounds to doubt his promise. His constant promise breaking being of course the other basis. He ignored these points and went to insults, and yet in this thread he claims in bad faith he’s never seen any such reasoning. He’s seen the reasoning many times, but his commenting, like his voting, do not follow his conscience.

    It’s one thing to say you’re convinced Hillary would be worse than Trump. It’s another to lie for partisan reasons.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  28. Mr. Cruz did suicide bomber at the convention fortunately nobody but him got blowed up

    but it was touch and go there for a minute or two

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  29. We’re down to the wire here. This country’s political system is, granted, very silly, but the unfortunate fact is, we’re stuck with it. You can have Hillary, or you can have Trump. There is no alternative sea-salt caramel ice cream flavor to choose instead. The imbecile GOP had their chance, they had eight years to think carefully about this and plan a winning strategy, and instead they fielded absurd candidates, and not one of them was sharp enough to beat (wait for it) Donald Trump. Think about how silly that is; as military people sometimes say, amateurs talk about strategy and tactics, but professionals examine the terrain. As Henry Ford famously said, you can have any color you like, so long as it’s black. The Pink Floyd roadie said that too, but he phrased it differently.

    You can have Hillary, and the long march down the road to ruin, or you can have Trump, who may not be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but who at least gives a decent speech, has built a skyscraper or two, and probably knows he didn’t make his buildings with his own bare hands, and so understands how to put together a competent team.

    As far as I know, Paul Morphy and Louis Sullivan won’t be on the ballot.

    hunson abedeer (80144e)

  30. Anybody can blame anybody the want to blame for the outcome of the 2016 election.

    I would love to support a conservative GOP candidate running against Hillary Clinton. But I don’t have that choice. The only option the GOP gave me is to vote for a liberal, statist who can’t seem to make up his mind what he actually believes 15 minutes after his last speech.

    The only thing Trump seems to know is that he hates Ted Cruz and Ted’s wife and father.

    That is not a prescription for victory, limited government and the restoration of the constitutional republic.

    It is hard to believe that Donald J. Trump will be any worse than Hillary but it is not obvious that he is going to be much better.

    He has until November to convince me, but he keeps aiming his big guns at Ted and his family. That probably isn’t going to convince me, but I am sure hoping he at least plans to try between now and then.

    God save this nation because the two major candidates aren’t likely to do it.

    WarEagle82 (5bf75f)

  31. you know taylor swift doesn’t dwell on past slights as much as you folk, and she’s paid to do so,

    narciso (732bc0)

  32. If Hillary is elected, I will be holding neverteumpers responsible for her presidency.

    Promise? Will you give me a written statement saying so and make a public proclamation? I’d love to be a footnote to history as the guy who kept the Manhattan faggot and his Slovenian beard out of the White House. I could even run for alderman on that kind of reputation.

    nk (dbc370)

  33. WTF? I mean, seriously, WTF? What is this ad’s message? What does it want its audience to come away with? What sort of feeling is it supposed to engender? I just don’t get it.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  34. Is there such a gaping gap between Trump and Cruz policy-wise?

    Why yes, yes there is, Andrew Hyman. And that’s due to several reasons. While Ted Cruz has been consistent with his positions on the issues that concern us all, Trump has waffled and flip-flopped on any number of them. Instead of asking which ones he has waffled on, the better question is, upon which issues hasn’t he waffled on?

    Dana (995455)

  35. If Hillary is elected, I will be holding neverteumpers responsible for her presidency.

    Promise? Will you give me a written statement saying so and make a public proclamation? I’d love to be a footnote to history as the guy who kept the Manhattan fruity-tutti and his Slovenian beard out of the White House. I could even run for alderman on that kind of reputation.

    nk (dbc370)

  36. WTF? I mean, seriously, WTF? What is this ad’s message? What does it want its audience to come away with? What sort of feeling is it supposed to engender? I just don’t get it.

    The message is to remind you that he can get a lot of people to clap for him. But so can dancing dolphins.

    My question to all the people pushing the “either you’re for Trump or working to put Hillary in office” line, how does crap like this ad help beat Hillary in any way, shape or form? I’ll wait for your response.

    Dana (995455)

  37. “nk made Hillary President” will be exactly as truthful as “Trump already survived an assassination attempt”. Maybe more even.

    nk (dbc370)

  38. (#23) Trump may be like Stalin and Mao personality-wise and personal-insult-wise but I strongly advise that we focus on the substance of policy positions. Is that possible? Is there such a gaping gap between Trump and Cruz policy-wise?

    Um, yes. Trump’s policy positions, to the extent that he has any, are often to the left of Clinton’s, let alone Cruz’s! How do you not know this?

    But mostly he has no policy positions, because he doesn’t have the basic knowledge to understand most policy issues. Instead he’s selling Hopenchange™ just like the current president did eight years ago. A President Trump would be a repeat of President 0bama, only this time as farce.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  39. Is there such a gaping gap between Trump and Cruz policy-wise?
    Cruz wants aggressive military action on ISIS, Trump doesn’t say how he would actually defeat them. Don’t remember what, if anything, Cruz has said about the Muslim travel ban, and of course you have to decide which of the various iterations proposed by Trump is the one he actually wants.
    Cruz is against immigration amnesty, Trump’s actual proposal is a form of amnesty. Cruz wants a border wall but understands Mexico is not going to pay for it.
    Cruz did not propose punitive tariffs or abandoning Nato.
    Trump assumes vast exercises of presidential power to get his program done. That would not be Cruz.
    Most other issues Trump does not have a discernible policy.

    kishnevi (1c16da)

  40. he had a more focused travel ban, crafted by gaffney, which trump had more closely matched,
    general flynn and say joseph schmitz, would lean in the maximalist position, phares and probably kellums, who used to work for cheney, would allow more exceptions,

    narciso (732bc0)

  41. The message is to remind you that he can get a lot of people to clap for him. But so can dancing dolphins.

    Yes, but why would that make people like him more, or be more inclined to vote for him?

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  42. Hillary has promised to end the right to own guns, amnesty in the first 100 days, half a million more Islamic refugees, make college free, supports the free trade globalist agenda, will federalize the nation’s police forces, and pick three new progressive Supreme Court Justices.

    Trump will do none of that.

    You people saying this is a choice between Stalin and Mao are either fools or lying, I leave it up to the readers to pick.

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  43. the cranial inversion quotient is high,

    https://twitter.com/News_Executive/status/757359935189647360

    narciso (732bc0)

  44. Also, Trump will be filling cabinet positions from the Republican bench, Hillary from the Clinton faithful. Nevertrump people are intellectual lightweights.

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  45. will federalize the nation’s police forces
    If you didn’t notice, Trump’s acceptance speech contains a line in which he promised to federalize not just the police but prosecutors and other parts of law enforcement. So he hss gone further than she has on that.

    kishnevi (1c16da)

  46. Trump will be filling cabinet positions from the Republican bench, Hillary from the Clinton faithful

    Important.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  47. You got a cite for that kishnevi?

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  48. “I just don’t get it.”

    I think it might be aimed at people who don’t realise that it’s normal for these sorts of speeches to be mostly the speaker waiting for applause.

    Not that that makes any sense either.

    scrubone (c3104f)

  49. Young guy is walking down the road. He happens across an old man, and they end up walking together. The old guy is just out for a walk, but he does know the area.

    They come to a fork in the path. The young man starts walking left. “If you go that way, there’s a swamp. You’ll probably get stuck in there” the old man warns.

    The young man ignores him and goes to the left. A few steps down, there’s a swamp.

    “I’m not going in there with you, you know”. The old man says.

    “Well, if I get stuck, it’s your fault for not being there” replies the young Trump supporter angrily.

    The way I see it, you can’t blame people for not following you where you have not convinced them to go.

    scrubone (c3104f)

  50. “I will work with, and appoint, the best and brightest prosecutors and law enforcement officers to get the job done.”
    Didn’t find a quick cut and paste source, but this is the full speech.
    http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/32504304/trump-acceptance-speech-transcript-from-rnc

    It’s the sentence immediately after the sentence footnoted 165 and 166.

    Maybe he doesn’t know that prosecution of street crime has nothing to with the federal government and everything to with state government. Or maybe he thinks we should start trying murderers in federal court.

    kishnevi (1c16da)

  51. Whereupon the senile old man takes the other fork and walks into quicksand, disappearing forever.

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  52. LBascom,

    What makes you trust what Trump says if he has changed his mind, or “evolved” on issues (like the current president claims)?

    Dana (995455)

  53. Dana, I give you great kudos for walking through this awful swamp of people who have never read Eric Hoffer’s “The True Believer.”

    Simon Jester (2b5dd3)

  54. The recent El Nino conditions have now passed and with them the brief respite for California from its long-term drought

    Unhappily, the legal protections for the Delta Smelt meant bypassing SoCal reservoirs of 50% of the surfeit(a 16% increase over the 200-year average) and the excess was flushed into the sea.

    FU #nevertrump

    DNF (c5f7f1)

  55. you know taylor swift doesn’t dwell on past slights as much as you folk, and she’s paid to do so,

    🙂

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  56. You do know there are federal prosecutors already, right? Not to mention the Fbi. Can you guess what the F stands for?

    You know, those less than best and brightest that let Hillary skate on the email scandal?

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  57. “Trump will be filling cabinet positions from the Republican bench”

    I seem to recall that his campaign was staffed with Democrats in key positions. So I see no basis for that claim.

    scrubone (c3104f)

  58. so they say, who exactly, manafort, stone, gates, I’m sure there are some, most political consultants are democrats, many of the republican bench were proscribed, or have you forgotten>

    narciso (732bc0)

  59. LBascom (0b9b35) — 7/24/2016 @ 5:18 pm
    Of course I do. But Trump is talking about crimes that are prosecuted at state level. He either does not know or does not care about the difference. But he’s talking as if he should be Patterico’s boss.

    kishnevi (1c16da)

  60. “Trump will do none of that.”

    He literally said he’d ban people on the terror watch list from owning firearms.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/16/us/politics/donald-trump-gun-control-nra.html

    So you can’t trust him on your gun rights, the very first thing on your “he’ll never do that” list.

    scrubone (c3104f)

  61. I am supposed to be impressed by a hippie wearing a kitschy tourist t-shirt?

    kishnevi (1c16da)

  62. Noting the preparations of Sanders’ protestors for this weeks’ reprise of 1968 we can safely predict half of the doddering #nevertrump relics will be dead when Lyin’ Ted next stalks the Big Donors in 2024.

    DNF (c5f7f1)

  63. peak ted was already several moons ago

    what an oily greasy uncomfortable-making person

    maybe he can get a job at facebook

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  64. Dana, I don’t trust any of them 100%. Nixon gave us the EPA, Reagan gave us amnesty, H Bush raised taxes, A whole host of Republican congesscitters couldn’t keep their pecker in their pants, W Bush gave us No Child Left Behind, Medicare D, and the DHS. I don’t expect Trump to be any better than any of them, but I damn sure know he will be for restoring the USA to a better path, and the only other choice, Hillary, will be for continuing the progressives death wish for western civilization.

    Trump is an imperfect person, same as you, me, and even saint Cruz, but if you can’t see the difference between someone that loves his country, and wants the best for her, and an evil shrew that would destroy us and our posterity forever, I feel sorry for you.

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  65. I agree waffling and flip-flopping is not a great thing in a political figure, if it’s done incessantly. But Reagan switched from a Democrat to a Republican so flip-flopping is not like a mark of Satan or something. It can often be a mark of an open mind. The usual thing is to suppose that the most recently-articulated position is the true current position.

    Cruz wants aggressive military action on ISIS, Trump does too, using better beefed-up intelligence, greater coordination with allies, more cooperation with Congress, but as few ground troops as possible.

    On immigration from terrorist-stricken countries, Cruz proposes a three-year moratorium on immigratiin from nations where Islamic State forces are wreaking havoc, allowing governors to opt out of receiving any refugees, and revoking citizenship for any American who travels abroad in support of Islamic State forces. Cruz has said: “I commend Donald Trump for standing up and focusing America’s attention on the need to secure our borders. … I think Donald Trump has done a good job of focusing the American people’s attention on the need to do so.” Trump wants a temporary moratorium and/or extreme getting of refugees from terrorist-stricken countries, much as Cruz has recommended.

    As for illegal immigration across our southern border, there are many other things that can be done apart from round-ups, mass deportation, and getting people to the back of the line. Both Trump and Cruz are both strong supporters of those other things. As to round-ups, mass deportation, and getting people to the back of the line, both Cruz and Trump have not been 100% clear but Roy Beck of NumbersUSA says: “Overall either one of them on the basis of what they’re promising it would be a radical change from the past. It would be radically different from Obama, radically different from Bush, radically different from Clinton, and significantly different from H.W Bush. And really significantly different from Reagan, both of them are people who will almost take you back to the Eisenhower era of putting Americans first.”

    Cruz wants a border wall but does not call for Mexico to pay for it. Trump wants the wall plus payment from Mexico, and I very much doubt Trump would forget about a wall if Mexico declines to help pay for it.

    Cruz did not propose abandoning Nato, and neither did Trump. All Trump says is that our treaty partners should fulfill their treaty commitments, in which case we will fulfill ours. No protection for deadbeats.

    Trump calls for punitive tariffs if trade partners refuse to make our trade agreements more fair, whereas Cruz has not to my knowledge taken a position about whether our current trade agreements are fair or not. If hundreds of millions of America cans are required to compete with workers who make 1% of our federal minimum in wage, then that strikes me as unfair. How it strikes Senator Cruz I know not.

    My point is there are huge similarities between Cruz and Trump policy-wise, and many differences seem to be where one of their positions is unknown.

    Andrew Hyman (b12b60)

  66. extreme getting >> extreme vetting

    Andrew Hyman (b12b60)

  67. Kishnevi, the only crime I know of that Trump wants to elevate to the federal level is to impose the death penalty for assassinating a police officer, which frankly I have no problem with. If you have more, please enlighten me.

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  68. Regarding guns and the Second Amendment, the Washington Times reported this on June 19: “Donald Trump and the National Rifle Association smoothed over a hiccup in their alliance Sunday, agreeing that the government’s terrorist watch lists are unreliable and should not be used to revoke Second Amendment rights, a position also being taken by liberal-leaning civil liberties groups not usually allied with the NRA or Mr. Trump.”

    Andrew Hyman (b12b60)

  69. Simon at 52, I give Dana kudos for the title of the post. I’m still applauding.

    nk (dbc370)

  70. What is so rich is all these Boomers and Gen-Xers flap their gums as tho’ they have someone’s ear.

    Millenials, as old as thirty five are now the largest generation and you self-
    Important slobs have stolen their lunch. STFU and get out of the way.

    DNF (c5f7f1)

  71. If Hillary is elected, I will be holding neverteumpers responsible for her presidency. Even as I know you will hold yourselves innocent and oh so principled.

    LBascom (0b9b35) — 7/24/2016 @ 1:40 pm

    Ask me if I give a sh*t.

    Eric in Hollywood (76d6cf)

  72. Eric, I know you don’t. That’s why I wrote the next sentence just for you.

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  73. 70. I’ve been saying that all along. Two-thirds of Trump’s demographic are on Geritol, Dulcolax and Supp Hose.

    nk (dbc370)

  74. The Flower Children are now the Milk of Magnesia Children, but they still want daddy [Trump] to pay their way to Woodstock.

    nk (dbc370)

  75. LBascom, you may perform oral gratification upon me at your earliest convenience.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  76. Andrew Hyman, what was Trump’s position of the issue on June 20th?

    SPQR (a3a747)

  77. drop it here, they’ll buy anything,

    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102

    narciso (732bc0)

  78. “but they still want daddy [Trump] to pay their way to Woodstock.”

    As opposed to Hillary boosters, that just want to keep our national identity and bring back jobs to American citizens.

    Riiiggghht…

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  79. Tell us who has woven our lawless society.

    These folk have the most to lose over the next steps down for America.

    DNF (c5f7f1)

  80. SPQR (#77) as far as I know Trump hasn’t changed his position on watch lists from what it was on June 19. So the June 19 position remains his true position.

    Andrew Hyman (b12b60)

  81. SPQR, you’ll have to find another to fulfill your gay fantacies, I’m straight, sorry.

    LBascom (0b9b35)

  82. Andrew Hyman (b12b60) — 7/24/2016 @ 1:50 pm

    Cruz didn’t have any major policy complaints against Trump prior to their personal quarrels. Did they?

    He did have a major policy complaint against Donald Trump.

    He claimed that Donald Trump was not strong enough against illegal immigration, which of course did not make him appeal to people inclined to favor Kasich, Bush or Rubio. He lost Indiana, and only won Wisconsin and Utah because of srategic voting.

    Personal issues, also, of course, are important. That’s a lot of the case against Hillary Clinton.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  83. You do know there are federal prosecutors already, right? Not to mention the Fbi. Can you guess what the F stands for?

    And they have what, exactly, to do with keeping crime down?

    Kishnevi, the only crime I know of that Trump wants to elevate to the federal level is to impose the death penalty for assassinating a police officer

    And yet you have his own words that

    The first task for our new Administration will be to liberate our citizens from the crime and terrorism and lawlessness that threatens their communities. […] when I take the oath of office next year, I will restore law and order to our country. I will work with, and appoint, the best and brightest prosecutors and law enforcement officials to get the job done. In this race for the White House, I am the Law And Order candidate.

    That’s not a call to elevate one specific crime to the federal level, it’s a promise to federalise the prosecutors and policemen who deal with street crime. Because Trump doesn’t understand the difference between state and federal laws. He has never read the constitution, thinks it has 12 articles, and doesn’t give a d*** about any of them.

    Regarding guns and the Second Amendment, the Washington Times reported this on June 19: “Donald Trump and the National Rifle Association smoothed over a hiccup in their alliance Sunday, agreeing that the government’s terrorist watch lists are unreliable and should not be used to revoke Second Amendment rights,

    Do you seriously believe Trump changed his mind? That he suddenly embraced the second amendment just days after rejecting it? Those were not Trump’s words, they were the NRA’s, which Trump allowed to go out as the price of not losing his endorsement. They don’t reflect a change in his understanding, because he never had one before and still doesn’t. He isn’t mentally capable of understanding the very concept of inalienable rights.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  84. moving out of the metaphorical

    https://twitter.com/FlorianFlade/status/75738984564800716

    he had been denied asylum,

    narciso (732bc0)

  85. 83. While some portion of Bernie’s faithful are as maladaptive as the #nevertrump and will sit this one out, the Borg is in serious disarray and the disaffected Sanderites opting for outsider Trump will more than make up for those too constipated to drag their prodigious bums to vote for the Great White Satan.

    DNF (c5f7f1)

  86. narciso, did something get deleted?
    “page does not exist” and

    @florianfade hasn’t Tweeted yet.

    is all I get.

    kishnevi (0dce2b)

  87. it’s about the anspach bomber, a syrian supposedly,

    narciso (732bc0)

  88. who has a sad sack story,

    https://twitter.com/FlorianFlade

    narciso (732bc0)

  89. Thanks.

    kishnevi (0dce2b)

  90. Electioneering bombast. The federal government has executed three people since 1963. The first was Tim McVeigh and he essentially requested it, waiving appeal. The second was a big drug boss. The third kidnapped, raped and murdered a woman serving in the Air Force, abducting her from the base. States are where the death penalty is. I think Texas executed a cop killer within the last year. Federalizing cop killing will more likely help cop killers avoid the penalty, by taking them out of the state’s legal system and into the federal system..

    I know, I know, not all states have the death penalty and a federal law will bring it to those which don’t. There are a lot of problems with that kind of thinking and the primary one is that you’re not going to get a hanging jury from the voters of that state. If they wanted to execute cop killers, they’d have that law.

    This is another wall that Mexico will pay for.

    nk (dbc370)

  91. Trump has flip-flopped on abortion, minimum wage, etc., so you could not logically claim, with any assurance, that his positions stand as he currently claims. What quality has he demonstrated that coninvces you to give him the benefit of the doubt? Because that’s what support of him seems to amount to -giving him the benefit of the doubt when all the evidence would suggest that is not prudent.

    Dana (995455)

  92. If Trump loses,
    Blame him.
    He is the one saying he doesn’t need conservatives, especially Cruz voters,
    And he has repeatedly driven them away.

    What kind of candidate tells people he doesn’t need their votes?
    (Oh, I guess Mitt Romney did when he talked about the 47%.)

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  93. What do politicians usually do even when they don’t flip-flop on positions?
    Not keep their promises, right?

    Cruz kept his promises and was criticized and hated for it.

    That is why no one should have based their vote simply on what someone, anyone, says.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  94. Dana (93), I’d rather give Trump the benefit of a doubt because I have no doubt Hillary would be much worse. Having a doubt means having hope.

    Andrew Hyman (b12b60)

  95. What i especially love about #nevertrump perseverations are the self-evident hypocrisy, e.g., he gave money to Medusa herself. No matter that 70% of Republican donors give money to Democrats.

    This patent dishonesty is what has made America as sick with conservatives as their putative enemies on the left.

    There will be no reconciliation, you just suck that badly.

    DNF (c5f7f1)

  96. There will be no reconciliation, you just suck that badly.
    DNF (c5f7f1) — 7/24/2016 @ 7:31 pm

    Color me heartbroken.

    Eric in Hollywood (76d6cf)

  97. Trump is not a donor. Trump is a candidate. How much has Kasich donated to Democrats?

    kishnevi (0dce2b)

  98. 99. Pardon, Grasshopper, Trump admitted supporting the Gorgon as Senator from NY.

    DNF (c5f7f1)

  99. As Henry Ford famously said, you can have any color you like, so long as it’s black. The Pink Floyd roadie said that too, but he phrased it differently.

    Hunson, you;’re talking to someone who is better schooled than the average car guy on automotive history. Anyone can parrot that line from Ford. It sounds homespun and the average Joe can grasp it. What most don’t know was it was a calculated line, intended to get his production lines moving even faster. Black was chosen because it was easy to produce and in the formulations used at Ford, dried quickly. No need to color match anything.

    You can use that analogy to describe Trump, but please do understand what it really meant- a cynical jab at Ford’s market.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  100. I realize that this is probably futile….BUT.
    I am no TRUMP fan.
    However, Trump is CLEARLY a better choice than RODHAM.
    Nothing else matters at this point.
    Those of you who disagree, are morons.
    If you want to diminish TRUMP, you do so at the peril of RODHAM being elected.
    There is no moral equivalence. WHATEVER you think of TRUMP. Rodham is SEVERELY worse.

    GUS (30b6bd)

  101. it’s a cunning cunning plan, like the coyote when it hangs off a cliff, with a question mark/

    narciso (732bc0)

  102. DNF. If giving money to RODHAM is a sin, then apparently RODHAM is EVIL and THE PROBLEM.
    I have a CHOICE. TRUMP or the PIG that he at one point donated to. Rodham is the pig. Trump merely fed her. Of course Trump was wrong, and probably did so for his own personal/business reasons. That does not make TRUMP worse than the PIG he fed.

    GUS (30b6bd)

  103. I was reading a wiki leak leaked email that appeared to show Cruz’s guy Cuccinelli forwarding strategic emails, such as ideas for mass mailings, that Cruz was sending him on to the DNC. I could be wrong about that. I don’t do a lot of email.

    jcurtis (16c2c4)

  104. Narciso, that’s such YE OLDE NEWS. Rodham has been fighting for THE CHILDREN for decades.

    GUS (30b6bd)

  105. like in hansel and gretel?

    narciso (732bc0)

  106. I know, I know, not all states have the death penalty and a federal law will bring it to those which don’t. There are a lot of problems with that kind of thinking and the primary one is that you’re not going to get a hanging jury from the voters of that state. If they wanted to execute cop killers, they’d have that law.

    That’s actually not true. I haven’t looked at the exact stats, but AFAIK in most if not all states there’s a strong majority for capital punishment, but the Democrat politicians oppose it. The same is true in Europe, where a strong majority in every EU country supports capital punishment, and yet the governments have banned it. Ditto in Israel; for decades polls have shown public support for executing terrorists, but the judiciary refuses.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  107. God must hate America.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  108. a major party booed god, at the convention, and israel for good measure, it’s hard to remain in his favor,

    narciso (732bc0)

  109. #26 Dustin,

    You must be a lawyer cuz you don’t seem willing to accept a fact inconvenient to your case so you distort…

    1) Cruz voter and donated.
    2) Not a Trump fan

    As many Cruz folks you can’t accept TC’s flaws and are blind to reality. Cruz did attack his colleagues and did use money to sabotage their primary runs. He did so for good reasons but the biggest are he wants power. You TC fan boys have trouble with reality. Just cuz I agree does not mean I can’t see the reality. So now imagine folks who disagree? What they see is a mendacious jackass they don’t like.

    Trump is the choice by the ver “idiots” you were expecting Ted to sail in on. Ted could not close. Maybe 2020, 24, 28 … Maybe never. But right now we need to destroy the Left. Only Trump has even the basic cojones to try. He may or not but I know he is a SOB and will shit in Democrats mouths. And happy about that.

    I do know Hillary is bad. Real bad. We got a hot mess with PC and Govt money flowing to parasitic leftist group … He might be the SOB for the job. Cruz got no shot and as I said he should have done a deal wth Trump to carve up the Congress and its appointments under his wing and let Trump screw with the Executive Branch. Cruz blew it and likely surrendered power to Mitch McConnell for another few years.

    Rodney King's Spirit (603237)

  110. God must hate America.

    No, we did it to ourselves. Or rather the plurality of primary voters did it to themselves and also to us.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  111. Vote Trump to fight and keep Islamisation (and Islam) out of America.

    For f— sakes.

    Even if the above night club shooting wasn’t Islam, the last big one was, the truck mowing over was, the bomb near Nuremburg was, the machete-ing, the stabbing, and on and on and on.

    Trump will defend America (and lead the defense of the West!) from this existential threat. Hillary Clinton will not.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  112. I’ll believe Ted is a Constitutionalist when I hear him complaining for the last 5 years about the missing Drug Prohibition Amendment. He could start today.

    MSimon (ea7ddf)

  113. What number amendment is that and when did it go missing? Has anybody reported it to the Missing Amendments Bureau?

    And how did it go missing? Did it tell its wife it was going out for a pack of cigarettes and never came back?

    nk (dbc370)

  114. sore loser ted is just a reviled rump state senator anymore

    Donald Trump, scourge of stinkypig and defender of Liberty, is the new hotness!

    plus also Mike Pence is involved

    it’s a new day in America

    and ain’t that a kick in the head

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  115. and ain’t that a kick in the head

    Several. Several kicks in the head And in other places, too. But a good pot party with hookers will make us forget all about it. Right, MSimon?

    nk (dbc370)

  116. drugs are for losers

    be cool stay in school

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  117. “THE FIX IS IN: ’60 Minutes’ Doesn’t Air Hillary Dodge About DNC Interference.

    The Wikileaks news was breaking Saturday when CBS’s Scott Pelley sat down with Clinton and her new running mate, Virginia senator Tim Kaine, for an interview that aired Sunday evening on 60 Minutes. There’s plenty covered in the interview that ran on TV, but perhaps the newsiest topic of the day, the DNC turmoil, didn’t make it into the broadcast. In a video posted under the banner of 60 Minutes Overtime and touted as an “unaired” clip from the interview, Pelley asked Clinton and Kaine about the leak. Clinton’s answers—or, more accurately, her non-answers—on what she knew about DNC interference in the primary were…curious. Among them was Clinton’s unwillingness to say any such intervention by the party committee to favor one candidate would be “improper.”

    This isn’t the first time CBS and 60 Minutes have done something like this. During the 2012 presidential election, CBS released a previously unaired clip from an interview between Steve Kroft and Barack Obama that seemed to back up the president’s claim during a debate with Mitt Romney that he had, indeed, deemed the September 11 assault on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi as a terrorist attack. But, as Bret Baier pointed out at the time, just days before the election, CBS unceremoniously published the fuller portion of the interview that showed Obama contradicting himself on this point.

    For all the fuss about the GOP “establishment,” the Democrats actually have one — and it works.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/239622/

    Colonel Haiku (607a84)

  118. He is the one saying he doesn’t need conservatives, especially Cruz voters,
    And he has repeatedly driven them away.

    What kind of candidate tells people he doesn’t need their votes?
    (Oh, I guess Mitt Romney did when he talked about the 47%.)

    MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/24/2016 @ 7:22 pm

    What is the exact quote where Trump said he doesn’t need Cruz supporters votes?

    Gerald A (945582)

  119. Gerald, Trump said he doesn’t need conservatives or a unified party because he has socialists:

    The presumptive GOP nominee said he can win without the backing of the full party by drawing Democratic voters, specifically supporters of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

    Two dats ago, Trump also said he doesn’t need or want Cruz’s support:

    Fresh off his marathon Republican convention acceptance speech, Donald Trump looked backward Friday, rekindling his feud with onetime chief rival Ted Cruz.

    Trump, in classic style, essentially said he couldn’t care less that Cruz declined to endorse him in a dramatic snub at the convention.

    “I don’t want his endorsement,” Trump said at a hastily arranged speech to volunteers in Cleveland. “If he gives it, I will not accept it.”

    It’s pretty easy to Google things like this.

    DRJ (15874d)

  120. #122

    In that clip Trump said he would like to have conservative voters. But he thinks, rightly or wrongly, that he has a path to victory without solid conservative support.

    Saying he doesn’t want Cruz’s endorsement is not in any way saying anything about Cruz voters. I just made that same point on another thread. I voted for Cruz but I don’t equate anything Trump says about Cruz with myself, which is a little weird.

    If someone thinks Trump is telling conservatives not to vote for him they’re a bit unhinged IMO.

    Gerald A (945582)

  121. So perhaps this is a company payback for red queen’s malfeasance, a friend suggested it.

    narciso (732bc0)

  122. The anspach bomber was jayvee

    narciso (732bc0)

  123. Is there a day that goes by where Trump doesn’t blow himself kisses all day long.

    Ghost Rider (a9c557)

  124. I’m unhinged to think that saying “Republican doesn’t mean conservative,” Trump says he doesn’t need Cruz’s support, and he doesn’t need a unified party means Trump doesn’t care about conservative support? That’s interesting logic.

    I think it’s true that Trump wants votes from everyone but how can you translate what he’s said with wanting to earn conservative votes? Trump wants adulation and adoration, not support that he earned because he stands for conservative values. The fact that he’s willing to replace conservative voters with socialist voters should make that clear.

    Trump lies incessantly. Believing what he says is a fool’s errand, just as the Democrats say one thing but their secret emails say another. But there are circumstantial evidence and logical inferences that suggest what they are really thinking. Courts convict people every day based on things like this, even if they don’t say “I did it.” There is ample evidence that Trump doesn’t like or want Cruz or his supporters. He welcomes their votes, of course, but will do nothing to earn those votes and will happily (figuratively, I hope) kick us in the face just for fun — to the loud cheers of his supporters.

    DRJ (15874d)

  125. Meanwhile a twice contempt of congress citation holder will chair the convention.

    narciso (732bc0)

  126. Vote for Trump if you want. Love and adore Trump, too. Pin all your hopes for America’s future on him. I hope he gives us a great America, but history and logic tell us that greatness doesn’t come from one man’s promises. They teach us that greatness comes from freedom, limited government, capitalism, the rule of law, and Judeo-Christian values.

    Trump talks big but he has supported less freedom, more government, corrupt businesses, little respect for law, and he doesn’t seem to need God. And you think I’m unhinged for not trusting him?

    DRJ (15874d)

  127. Actions speak louder than words, Gerald,
    he has doubled and tripled down against Cruz, even after he won the nomination,
    and if he wants to so badly mistreat the standard bearer of conservative principles,
    then it is apparent to me that he doesn’t mind chasing away our votes.

    Like someone said above, he is acting like a dictator following a coup.

    As others have also said,
    if you want to say Clinton is so bad that anyone less than the reincarnation of Hitler, Stalin, or Mao is to be preferred,
    I can understand that,
    and because of that, if nothing changes by November maybe I will be voting Trump,
    But,
    it will be knowing that Trump is cursed before he gets into office.
    There are 6 things, even 7,
    that the Lord hates,
    that He cannot stand,
    haughty eyes, arrogance, lying, pride, causing strife among brothers are way up there.

    At this point,
    what difference does it make,
    which one of them is elected president,
    the nation is blind, deaf, without moorings, and without a rudder.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  128. President Trump and Melania Trump the first lady will have many adventures as they live hard work hard and play hard doing everything they can to make America great again.

    I can’t even hardly wait it’s like when them caterpillars do christlemas on themselves and change into beautiful soaring butterflies! That’s what it’s gonna be like for America too!

    Will there be challenges? You bet there’s gonna be challenges but we can all face them together, united as a people for the first time in America, and at day’s end what we will have accomplished will make us all very very proud.

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  129. Kaine told 60 Minutes, in a segnent that aired on CBS News, that he used to eb chairman of the DNC and in an operation like that eveyrbody has his opinions. Hillary said they weren’t working for her (which is true on the books) so she wouldn’t be responsible for what anyone said or something like that. Did that air in the 60 Minuted broadcast?

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  130. On a lighter note…
    Pastor Francis Chan gave a talk at some event at Liberty U. in the last many months, and in his introductory remarks noted that he could probably get into the news if he wanted to, speaking in that setting,
    but that he wasn’t going to make that his aim;
    then he promptly asked them all to turn in their Bibles to
    “One Peter”.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  131. Trump: when I take the oath of office next year, I will restore law and order to our country. I will work with, and appoint, the best and brightest prosecutors and law enforcement officials to get the job done. In this race for the White House, I am the Law And Order candidate.

    You know what this is: Nonsense, that Donald Trump doesn’t think has to make sense to any informed person. He’s targeting uninformed people. Now it’s not like he understands exactly what’s wrong with that. I don’t think he does. I also don’t think he cares, unless there’s a big hullabaloo about some error. The man thinks politicians always lie, and boast, and make promises they have no idea how to fulfill, and he should too.

    @milhous 7/24/2016 @ 6:57 pm

    It sounds indeed very much like he doesn’t know the difference between state and federal law enforcement. Now, there’s a way in which Barack Obama and Eric Holder could have made law enforcement worse (in scattered places) throughout the country. And that’s by holding ove rthe head of local law enforcement the possibility of civil rights lawsuits, and federal judicial supervision of local law enforcement in places where lawsuits are settled. But Donald Trump shows no signs of understanding any of this. Of course, it’s not like he, or someone close to him, could stumble across an op-ed piece somewhere that explains all this.

    You know what’s worse, in dealing with almost any issue, he shows no sign of wanting to understand things, or at least of wanted not to make misstatements.

    He has never read the constitution, thinks it has 12 articles, and doesn’t give a d*** about any of them.

    He thinks it has many more than 12 articles, and they could be violated. Now he probably did see a copy of constitution more than once and knows it ends with Article XXVII. He may not be aware that the numbering starts over again with the Bill of Rights.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  132. If someone thinks Trump is telling conservatives not to vote for him they’re a bit unhinged IMO.
    Gerald A (945582) — 7/25/2016 @ 6:34 am

    Translation: That’s not piss; it’s raining.

    felipe (d96360)

  133. He’s playing hard to get. He learned that from the other “girls”. Hillary will have to work awful hard to annoy me enough to vote for this prima donna.

    nk (dbc370)

  134. 135, many years ago, I actually did that off a rooftop during a spring downpour on some unsuspecting pledges.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  135. Between Boehner, Ryan, and McConnell the Republican “brand” has been destroyed. The Congress is now a lap dog begging from crumbs from the administration. The Regulatory State is running amok with no control or oversight. Simple fiscal responsibility is laughed at. Our military is a joke, and our veterans are the butt of the joke. This was the best that our GOPe could do with control of both houses.

    So let’s assume Trump is elected. My question is what will the Republican brand be in two years?

    Will it be a pliable legislative arm of a Mussolini-style demagogue who will prance around braying while a majority of Americans clamor to get in line for a glimpse of this marvelous new leader? Will Trump begin to dress in medal-bedecked uniforms of his own design?

    Or more likely, will it be a minority party in both houses, lacking any legislative power, with nothing to cling to as far as principles and recognized accomplishments. Will Trump be under siege in the White House with every media outlet running National Enquirer level attacks on him, his family, and those who serve him. Will Trump be forced to acquiesce to increased Federalization of everything in the country from local police to a universal forced bussing of our kids in order to hang on to his office?

    Too many seem to think it will be all rainbows and unicorns if Trump manages to get elected. I see the possibilities stemming from a Trump election as the opposite. It will mark the end of the one party that historically has supported the Rule of Law and Individual Rights. This will have much greater negative consequences for our children’s futures than anything this buffoon is promising now.

    If Trump loses, his control of the party will vanish, and we can begin the restoration of the Republican Party to something we can be proud of.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  136. Fort Myers – Domestic Thug on Thug (Zoe Pound/rivals involved)

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  137. Trump will crush Hillary and the Democrats.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  138. If Trump loses, his control of the party will vanish, and we can begin the restoration of the Republican Party to something we can be proud of.
    BobStewartatHome (a52abe) — 7/25/2016 @ 10:13 am

    I agree, Bob, Trump’s control will vanish. That would be a silver lining. But Trump is just a symptom, not the disease. What needs to change, is the unresponsive, unrepresenting GOPe. Their control must vanish.

    felipe (d96360)

  139. Gahh, failed to close blockquote.

    felipe (d96360)

  140. I posted this on another thread:

    Cruz explains his RNC speech. He’s my Senator. He has a message for me, Patterico, DRJ, and other Independants.

    felipe (d96360)

  141. I thanked you there, too, Felipe.

    I guess we can’t trademark a bumper sticker that says,
    “I told you so”, can we?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  142. There is also the possibility that Cruz is “in” on the foul treatment resulting from the non-endorsement. The prize could be the SC appointment for being the willing heel.

    The response of NeverTrump-land to Cruz’ maltreatment was to be a feature, not a bug: this created the false impression of a subset of “not-left wing” voters receptive to a Clinton Plus “Moderate” VP. She of course chooses Kaine over a true leftist or person of color which results in those bloc’s disinterest. Kaine reminds me of a straight Stuart Smalley which may indicate an actual Clinton preference for Al Franken.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  143. Great link (143) Felipe! “Republicans ought to be picking Republican candidates.” Amen.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  144. Genius. Pure unfiltered political genius.

    What is Hillary to do now?
    Point out for the umpteenth time that The Donald has an ego.

    Kind of like in the movie where Madonna suggests to Rosie that during the game her bosom could pop out, thus increasing ticket sales.
    Rosie answers back, “You think there are any guys left who haven’t seen your bosoms pop out?”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  145. an acquaintance compared kaine to clem kadiddlehopper

    narciso (732bc0)

  146. Trump is going to crush Hillary and the Democrats.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  147. Watch Hillary deliver her speech now. She might rap it, gangsta style, ending with a break dance.

    Won’t save her dog show.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  148. i hate her stupid guts

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  149. I don’t understand why the millions of “independents” don’t put their actions where their mouths are and facilitate a new party.
    They have a blank canvas to paint on, and the potential for awesomeness is awesome.
    It’ll be like John Lennon’s song … “Imagine a world without John Boehner, or Mitch McConnell, or Paul Ryan. Imagine a world where Hillary is President.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  150. What message is sent to the party by the ouster of Wasserman Schultz?

    Isn’t it that there is only one queen? That the rest of you girls are expendable?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  151. 142. Gahh, failed to close blockquote.

    felipe (d96360) — 7/25/2016 @ 10:53 am

    I do that all the time, and worse. At least you clearly separated what you wrote and what somebody else wrote. That was accomplished by placing the first person’s name at the end, instead of at the start, and also within the bllockquote and not outside of it. Maybe I should coinsider that style. The numbers , which everyone used to do as the only thing, aren’t always reliable becaue of some messages that come out of moderation, or get deleted, although they are pretty good.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  152. Senator Bernie Sanders gave a speech to his supporters, excerpted by Rush Limbaugh, with a lot of applause cut out because it was long. It will probably be available in his website in an hour or two. Rush says that the speech Sanders gives tonight at the convention probably won’t be as rousing.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  153. So let’s assume Trump is elected. My question is what will the Republican brand be in two years?

    Will it be a pliable legislative arm of a Mussolini-style demagogue who will prance around braying

    No, because Trump will not control campaign contributions. But Hillary, if she is elected, likely will. And even maybe if she isn’t. If nothing upsets the applecart, she’ll be back in 2020 for a re-match. She’ll only be 73. Of course, the applecart can get upset by that time.

    What did Benjamin Franklin say?

    Something like: Those who will vote for Trump in order to avoid Hillary, may in the end get both Trump and Hillary.

    Somebody will give me correct quote. It may not apply.

    Here’s where putting the person quoted at the end runs into trouble: What if I want to split up the quote?

    Or more likely, will it be a minority party in both houses, lacking any legislative power, with nothing to cling to as far as principles and recognized accomplishments.

    In 1972, Nixon v McGovern, the Republicans actually lost two seats in the Senate. There were no coattails in either party – while McGovern carried Massachusetts, Senator Edward Brooke, a Republican, was re-elected in Massachusetts.

    It’s hard to see the Republicans losing control of the House because incumbents tend to get re-elected, but the Senate is a possibility, and it will be decided on its own merits mostly.

    Will Trump be under siege in the White House with every media outlet running National Enquirer level attacks on him, his family, and those who serve him.

    If Trump gets into fights with everyone, it’ll extend to questions of presidential power, or treason (favoritism toward Russia) and he’ll get impeached, but someone probably will prevail on him to stop short of that point.

    Will Trump be forced to acquiesce to increased Federalization of everything in the country from local police to a universal forced bussing of our kids in order to hang on to his office?

    Nothing of the sort. The Democrats aren’t seeking any such legislation. But Trump’s political positions are somewhat fluid. A minimum wage hike maybe yes, with not enough exceptions.

    But in the meantime the big question is: Will he tear up treaties, and how many, and for what purpose(s) and what kind? Will he threaten to tear them up? Will he say unless my interpretation is agreed to, the treaty is void?

    One of his goals will be to have many countries write checks to the U.S. Treasury. Winning?!!

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  154. she got caught, as was brazile, marcia fudge nor eric holder, mentioned in some accounts, are not as blatantly pro red queen,

    narciso (732bc0)

  155. “127. I think it’s true that Trump wants votes from everyone but how can you translate what he’s said with wanting to earn conservative votes?”

    “129. Trump talks big but …. And you think I’m unhinged for not trusting him?”

    Man, I can’t wait until the primaries are over and we have settled on the 2016 Republican candidate. Then we can finally stop bickering over which of the 16 Repubs who have their hat in the ring is the purest conservative and concentrate on beating Hillary.

    “136. Hillary will have to work awful hard to annoy me enough to vote for this prima donna.”

    Or have we decided to vote for Hillary this year? I guess she has a some stronger Conservative credentials that Trump?

    =======================
    “If Trump loses, his control of the party will vanish, and we can begin the restoration of the Republican Party to something we can be proud of.”

    Well, actually, no. The 3 new SC justices that Hillary appoints plus the 4 liberal ones will manage to find some previously invisible words in the Constitution that deems the Republican Party a hate group and disband it.

    Snark aside, if the Republican Party had been doing what the Republican voters wanted them to do in Washington, Trump would still be building hotels and donating money to the RNC. Instead, they got to DC and became democrat-lites.
    If you think Trump is bad, wait until you see what the unhappy Republican voters come up with the next time. Trump is just a symptom, not the disease.

    “146. Republicans ought to be picking Republican candidates.”
    They have been. But then when they get to Washington they act like Democrats. Not all of them, just most of them.

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  156. I especially appreciate the California delegation to the DNC, 500+ of them, booing Clinton.

    IN California, every congressional district is gerrymandered, not a few or them, not most of them, all of them.

    Our votes – even the Democrats – they mean nothing in California.
    Every once in a while, the citizenry breaks free of the straight jacket the establishment Dmeocrats have put on us, with a common sense proposition.

    Prop 8 restricting the term marriage to a union between one man and one woman being a prominent example.
    Invariably, these hard fought, borderline miraculous, political decisions are nullified by Dem appointed liberal clerics pretending to be judges.

    So the California Democrat delegation suddenly has a moment of clarity. Their vote don’t count for diddly, even when they are duly elected delegates.

    Nothing left for them to do except shout. God bless them, they are going to.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  157. Crush Hillary and the Democrats, Trump will.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  158. I don’t understand why the millions of “independents” don’t put their actions where their mouths are and facilitate a new party.

    Because it’s a massive undertaking.

    The two existing parties are (as I understand it) federations of 50 state level organisations. They only come together for the convention, and only (really) to elect the president. Everything else is state level.

    So you have to establish not 1 organisation, but 50. And many of those will themselves need very large staffs in order to cover what are very large states. This is not a trivial undertaking.

    You’ve got a 2 party system. That is, the “first past the post” voting method inherently encourages people to vote either only for the two most likely to win – and third parties have a very hard time succeeding in that environment. The best way is to find a situation like Scotland, where the right/left divide is not as big an issue as whether Scotland should be it’s own country, and found a party to address an issue that the left/right divide ignores.

    I come from New Zealand and we have proportional representation. We’ve had hundreds of parties founded, and virtually none of them have succeeded. The only ones that have have generally been ones where an existing MP with a support base (I’ll come back to that) have broken off and founded or bolstered a party and made it back into parliament. There have also been a number of MPs who did not have said support base (but thought they did) who tried to do this and failed miserably.

    scrubone (c3104f)

  159. 152. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/25/2016 @ 12:00 pm don’t understand why the millions of “independents” don’t put their actions where their mouths are and facilitate a new party. </blockquote. Money, ballot access rules.

    Only fools tend to organize third parties.

    It's really bad this is not happening this year. It's getting really ate.

    The first thing: You don't want the same candidate in every state.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  160. It’s worse than that, scubone. In Illinois, if you want to run for for office, you have to file with the county clerk of each county in which you want your name on the ballot, because every county prints its own ballot. That’s 102 counties for statewide office, including President.

    nk (dbc370)

  161. That’s 102 counties for statewide office, including President.

    Gee, I bet it sure helps to have a machine at your back.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  162. I don’t understand why the millions of “independents” don’t put their actions where their mouths are and facilitate a new party.

    Worse, they have to believe in something. Most independents believe whoever spoke last, assuming they put that much time into it. They aren’t — almost by definition — players. The last centrist party was the Reform Party, set up by Ross Perot in 1996 for his second run. After that, it was just sitting there for anyone — there aren’t too many committed politically-active centrists. The far left and far right fought over it. In 2000, Pat Buchanan, David Duke, Donald Trump and Lenora Fulani fought over the #12 million in federal matching funds the nominee would have. Trump quit, aghast at his company and Pat Buchanan ran on the Reform Party line. In 2004, greatly diminished, they ran Ralph Nader.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  163. There is only one party which has been on the ballot in all 50 states and DC most elections: the Libertarians. They might — MIGHT — get 10% in polling this election and get into the debates, although I’d be surprised if they got 5% in the actual vote.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  164. an acquaintance compared kaine to clem kadiddlehopper

    narciso (732bc0) — 7/25/2016 @ 11:47 am

    Spot on, narciso!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  165. An opinion I heard today: (Lesser of two evils department)

    Hillary Clinton is dishonest and does not deserve to be president, while Donald Trump might want to show he’s not a bad person.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  166. Yes, but the reverse is equally true. Trump is dishonest and doesn’t deserve to be president, and Clinton might want to show she’s not a bad person. In fact Clinton has a long history of pretending not to be a bad person; she’s been skilfully pretending for decades to be a good person, and she’s good enough at it that millions of reasonably intelligent and well-informed people are convinced. Whereas Trump doesn’t seem to know how to impersonate a good person, nor why he should try.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  167. 171

    Who deserves to be President?
    You have to earn that right… one of the major ways you earn it is by not losing.
    If you can’t win, then all the deserving in the world won’t help you… see Hillary 2008 campaign for this one. She “deserved” to be the nominee, except she got “schlonged” and lost.
    You can deserve a lot of things, but if you get beat 2-1, then in the end, you deserve nothing… you need to win.
    Trump was mean, crude and rude and Cruz did not handle it. So Cruz lost. Cruz could not handle Trump, so in the end he got what he deserved. Which was to NOT be President.

    In my mind, neither Trump nor Hillary deserve to be President. In the end though, one of them will deserve that right by beating their opponent. Something Cruz and Sanders did not do.

    In this battle the right to be President is deserved by the candidates who first win their place in the final arena, and then win a 1 off victory there. Underhanded subterfuge by Hillary, and mean, cutting behavior by Trump are completely fair game in politics.
    Cruz and Sanders could not counter these behaviors… and the rest of the world is a harder place than USA politics, so like it or not the best man and woman won.

    Granted, there is probably some great guy in Nebraska who is now teaching History in Middle School, or some extraordinary woman on the bench in Wyoming, who could turn this country around and get it on point for the next 16 years, but although they deserve to be President(s) on one level, they did not enter or survive the crucible.

    We’d love to think the crucible refined out all the impurities like Trump or Hillary, but instead the fire torched Cruz and blistered Bernie.
    Next time wear the right flame proof gear, or get out, don’t whine. If you step into the fire of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego carrying your Bible and then wither, it was not your time.

    I really like Instapundits line on the DNC emails and Russia…. “you wrote them”.
    In other words, take responsibility for your own self inflicted wounds and losses. Cruz fans need to move from how did Cruz lose to that guy, to where did Cruz lose? Maybe the country felt like Cruz’ principles were not enough (clearly), because the world he presumed to deserve to preside within is unprincipled, bare knuckled and back stabbing and if you can’t deal with that within a primary, then the world is too big a place for you at his point in your life.

    Cruz didn’t cut it, did not survive the primary process, so he does not deserve to be President.

    I don’t know who to attribute this to, but someone once said something like: In a democracy you get the leadership you deserve. We are about to see this played out yet again (the last 8 years were a fiasco)

    steveg (fed1c9)

  168. I think it was h.l. mencken,

    narciso (732bc0)

  169. “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H.L. Mencken

    I liked him a little bit better when I found out that he founded Black Mask Magazine, the showcase of some of the best American writers of the 20th century, even if it was only because he needed a money-making publication to finance his pretentious BS scribblings elsewhere.

    nk (dbc370)

  170. But I just love to quote him out of context like I’m smart for no reason! Something something black flag slitting throats!

    Don’t take this away from me!!

    Leviticus (bdf402)

  171. that was the publication that published dashiel hammett, was chandler in that too/

    narciso (732bc0)

  172. No one “deserves” to be president. If we succumb to Wasted Vote logic, we succumb to Wasted Vote presidents

    Vote your conscience. Posterity will determine your conscience by your votes..

    Posterity is objective like that.

    Leviticus (bdf402)

  173. narciso, yes. Chandler literally succeeded Hammett. He started writing when Hammett stopped and his first stories were published in Black Mask. If I were conspiracy theory-minded, I’d work up a conspiracy theory about that.

    nk (dbc370)

  174. I don’t think so, chandler had a more white collar sensibility, whereas hammett has more a working class thing, marlowe vs. sam spade,

    narciso (732bc0)

  175. Oh, yeah, they were different. Hammett was a former Pinkerton and Chandler was an English-raised oil company executive. As to their writing, Hammett’s world was more of a man’s world. Chandler liked femmes fatales.

    nk (dbc370)

  176. Oh, yeah, they were different. Hammett was a former P____erton and Chandler was an English-raised oil company executive. As to their writing, Hammett’s world was more of a man’s world. Chandler liked femmes fatales.

    (Heh! The full name of that famous detective agency put me in moderation.)

    nk (dbc370)

  177. so jack gittes, nicolson’s character in china town, was more of a hammett type, sort of like elroy,

    narciso (732bc0)

  178. Some superficial resemblance to Sam Spade, but not really. Chinatown was a pastiche (or a ripoff) of several decades of film noir. Closer to Altman’s version (very close, actually) of Robert Altman’s Kiss Me Deadly, based on the book by Mickey Spillane which Chandler goes out of his way to dislike in Playback (he has Marlowe throw it in the garbage).

    nk (dbc370)

  179. Kaine and Unable

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  180. Re 173.:

    Who deserves to be President?
    You have to earn that right… one of the major ways you earn it is by not losing.

    …..

    In my mind, neither Trump nor Hillary deserve to be President. In the end though, one of them will deserve that right by beating their opponent.

    …..

    Cruz and Sanders could not counter these behaviors… and the rest of the world is a harder place than USA politics, so like it or not the best man and woman won.

    …..

    So by that reasoning, in 1933 the best man won in Germany, and Hitler was elected. I guess the lesson being expressed is “In a democracy you get the leadership you deserve”, and we can just write the result off as “In other words, take responsibility for your own self inflicted wounds and losses.”

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  181. #TehBecankling

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  182. “Come on you guys, what are you going to do, vote for the socialist? You have to vote for Adolf, or you’re a traitor!”

    Personally, I don’t vote for ANY evils, lesser or greater.

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  183. Then your work here are dun.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  184. Now we have two Democrats to chose from in November. Trump announces support for raising the federal minimum wage:

    http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/07/26/trump-abandons-last-vestiges-conservatism-promises-considerable-hike-minimum-wage/

    Remember, all those promises he made you 44%ers are “just a starting point for negotiations”. Enjoy, suckers.

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  185. You enjoy.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/07/for_trump_against_the_disloyalists_.html#ixzz4Fc89Pv00
    Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  186. Which is more important- loyalty to American constitutional principle, or to a political party? History has a way of putting a final solution on these things.

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  187. #192 Luke Stywalker,

    Many of us are not voting for Trump out of crypto-zombie loyalty to the GOP.
    Instead, we’re voting for Trump because either he or Hillary is going to be the next President, and we calculate she would be worse.
    “Liking” either of the choices has nothing to do with it. Neither does “Constitutional principle,” or “loyalty.”
    Trump and Clinton are on the menu, and one of them is going to win.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  188. Precisely. Adolf was the only other choice in 1933, if you didn’t want to elect a socialist.

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  189. Allow me to esssplane, Luke. I was for Cruz. He lost. I am not voting for a commie. I have to vote for Trump or a commie wins. If Trump does only one thing right, it’s one more than Hillary! will do. We don’t really know how good or how bad Trump will be as President. We know EXACTLY what Hillary! will be. Vote Trump.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  190. Luke, Hitler WAS a socialist and he was not the only other candidate.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  191. And this isn’t Germany and it isn’t 1933.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  192. For you, Luke

    “We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand an end to the power of the financial interests. We demand profit sharing in big business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. The government must undertake the improvement of public health.” — Platform of National Socialist German Workers Party, adopted in Munich on February 20, 1920.

    “We are socialists. We are enemies of today’s capitalistic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” – Adolf Hitler, May 1, 1927.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  193. Re 196:

    Luke, Hitler WAS a socialist and he was not the only other candidate.

    Partly right. Mr. H was a National Socialist, just as Mr. T is. By the logic of Trumpism, if you didn’t vote for Hitler, you were helping elect the real socialist, right? How can you argue with that logic?

    Lots of people believe that “Oh, that can’t happen here”, and they are the ones who have no clue who Huey Long was. Those who cannot remember the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  194. Hitler: “We are enemies of today’s capitalistic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries ….”

    Trump on federal minimum wage: ““I’m looking at that, I’m very different from most Republicans.”
    “The billionaire businessman said he would use the federal wage as a base and encourage states to implement their own minimum wage that is higher than the $10 figure.”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-proposes-10-federal-minimum-wage/article/2597805

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  195. they have looted whole strife torn countries, either they created the strife or profited from it,

    narciso (732bc0)

  196. Excerpt: “Aleksandr Dugin, otherwise known as “Putin’s Rasputin,” has endorsed Donald Trump for president of the United States.

    Aleksandr Dugin is a key theorist of the ideological underpinnings of Putinism. His “Eurasianism” seeks to provide a basis for uniting not only Russia, but all the world’s anti freedom forces, under Moscow’s banner against the West.”

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/putins-rasputin-endorses-trump/article/2001344

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  197. More:

    “Dugin’s endorsement of Trump is noteworthy, particularly in view of the fact that he has been given the role or organizing Eurasianist fifth columns supporting the Putin regime in western countries.

    …..

    Trump supports Russia’s actions in Syria, and has reportedly had many questionable business dealings with elements of Russian organized crime.

    Trump has been praised by Putin, and rather than reject such praise, has returned it, calling the Russian dictator “a real leader” and dismissing his many murders of political opponents at home and abroad as “unproven.”

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  198. Trump is definitely not a National Socialist Luke, and insisting he is does not make it so. Crony capitalist yes.

    You are on a political blog Luke, we all know who Huey long was. So what? Look, a squirrel.

    Trump’s view on the federal minimum wage or on any other topic is like anyone else’s. By that I mean he will not be in agreement with you 100% of the time. If that’s what you’re looking for keep looking. I don’t believe in any minimum wage but then again I’m a staunch conservative. Staunch enough to realize if Hillary! wins, America loses. Trump is an idiot and a blow hard but he will not enter office alone. There will be hundreds of Republicans in the Congress, the administration and the states who will influence him and his decisions. OTOH, if Hillary! wins there will be hundreds of leftists in Congress, the administration and the states that will influence hers. Which do you choose?

    I would like to know why you are arguing for a Hillary! vote? Do you really like her that much?

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  199. Yes, the Republican party (well, 44% of it) has actually nominated Francis the Talking Mule. Someone that sounds like he was an archetype Evil Republican created in a lab by Michael Moore.

    “If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.”
    – Alexander Hamilton

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  200. Quote: “You are on a political blog Luke, we all know who Huey long was.”

    Your faith is touching. Which might explain the credibility in Granpa Hitler’s promises.

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  201. Quote: “Trump is definitely not a National Socialist ….”

    What else would he have to favor for you to admit that he is? Are you sure that whatever you come up with, he won’t be pushing it next week?

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  202. pipe down, anakin, serously,

    narciso (732bc0)

  203. Your faith is touching. Which might explain the credibility in Granpa Hitler’s promises.

    Don’t be a smarta$$ Luke, I gave no credibility to anyone’s “promises”. I’m just trying to explain in my own humble way why I think you should vote for Trump even though he’s an obnoxious lout. However, you seem emotionally unable to view the election in a logical manner of them vs. us so I would like to simply ask that if you’re not voting for the Republican candidate you please stop campaigning for the democrat.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  204. “We do not argue with those who disagree with us, we destroy them.”

    Mussolini, the Lazio Speeches (1936)

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  205. Neither Hitler nor Mussolini are running. Do you have any more contemporary quotes from Hillary! or do you only specialize in past socialist/fascist hero’s?

    I have a doctor apt, so I’ll see your answer later.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  206. kylo ren’s a little pouty,

    narciso (732bc0)

  207. Quote: “The Republican Party has thrown itself into the embrace of a man who fabricates realities that ignorant people like to inhabit. Did I say “ignorant”? Yes, I did. It is necessary to say that people are deluded and that the task of leadership is to un-delude them. Is that “elitist”? Maybe it is; maybe we have become so inclined to celebrate the authenticity of all personal conviction that it is now elitist to believe in reason, expertise, and the lessons of history. If so, the party of accepting reality must be prepared to take on the party of denying reality, and its enablers among those who know better. If that is the coming realignment, we should embrace it.”

    – James Traub

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  208. ah snorfle, seriously kylo bring your a game,

    http://newsbusters.org/journalists/james-traub

    narciso (732bc0)

  209. Terrible! Both Trump and Mussolini wanted those kind of people destroyed. Pointing out facts isn’t acceptable, Dissent Cannot Be Tolerated!

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  210. “Misery loves company or at least it craves cover. Steve Malzberg and other Trump supporters on the right need people like Lee to jump on the Trump bandwagon even if it is at the final hour of the election to give them cover when this is all over. It conveniently provides them a simple pat answer to justify and excuse away their support for Trump. “Hey, a lot of people were supporting Trump, die heart conservatives like Mike Lee and even Cruz, we all were duped by this charlatan.” This is why it’s important for these guys and others conservatives to stand firm and never endorse or openly support Trump, because if he gets the nomination the conservative agenda will be shafted no matter who wins this election, so we need to be thinking about the next one.”

    http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/06/30/yes-sen.-mike-lee-frees-beast-talk-host-asks-wont-just-worship-trump-

    already-video/

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  211. ” Draft-dodger Donald Trump once said that the danger he faced from getting sexually transmitted diseases was his own “personal Vietnam.”

    In a 1997 interview with shock jock Howard Stern, Trump talked about how he had been “lucky” not to have contracted diseases when he was sleeping around.

    “I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,” Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on Buzzfeed, “It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html

    Honestly, guys, this is the leader we need to represent Republican principles to the world! How come you’re not on the bandwagon?!!! If you’re not with us, you’re against us! Trumpism is the only possible choice!

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  212. Should you take your cue from Dear Leader?

    “I know Hillary and I think she’d make a great president”

    – Donald Trump, in a 2008 blog post.

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  213. Luke Stywalker,

    There weren’t just two parties on the ballot during the March 1933 parliamentary elections in Germany. In a parliamentary system, there’s always multiple parties who get a decent percentage of the vote.
    Anyhow, your Hitler analogies are just a distraction.
    Hitler’s not on the ballot in November. Neither is Mussolini. Nor Mao. Nor Stalin.

    The President’s either going to be Trump or Clinton. You can write in “Mickey Mouse,” but you’ll still be governed by Trump or Clinton.
    Wishful thinking won’t change that fact.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  214. “We cannot make the world perfect, or even good. We cannot banish evil. Alexander Solzhenitsyn, in the midst of the living hell of Soviet Russia, explained what we can do: “You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-republican-partys-crisis-of-conscience/article/2597339

    Luke Stywalker (d5e24e)

  215. If Trump were half the man Putin is, I’d be campaigning for him.

    What makes Trump dangerous is that he is only a wannabe. He does not have strength, he has nastiness. And that is his appeal to the Snopeses (see if you get that reference, smart guys) — they recognize a kindred spirit.

    nk (dbc370)

  216. Volodya, is the ring leader of the oligarchs, he was on the ground floor in st. petersburg,

    narciso (732bc0)

  217. The President’s either going to be Trump or Clinton. You can write in “Mickey Mouse,” but you’ll still be governed by an authoritarian statist who has no respect for the Constitution.
    Wishful thinking won’t change that fact.

    Emended that to reflect reality.

    And who will bring into office with him bootlickers, yes men, beta males who enviously worship alpha maledom, and RINO runners-after-power. And should someone who believes in the Constitution slip into office among them, that person would be “fired” as soon as he refuses an order from the Great Man.

    Which is why the “look at his Cabinet” argument holds little water.

    kishnevi (79a319)

  218. narciso (732bc0) — 7/27/2016 @ 8:20 am

    Which touches on another probability if Trump gets elected.

    Eventually the bromance* with Volodya will wither, leaving Donald to nurse hurt feelings until he stumbles into a shooting war with Russia. If we are to have a war, it should be over principles or a strategic need, not because the President has a briused ego.

    *Given that Trump seems far more admiring of Putin than Putin is of Trump, perhaps bromance is not the right word.

    kishnevi (79a319)

  219. with the other candidate, has packed up the entire uranium stock pile to the russians, I had the medium piece about the bogus svr plot for volodya,

    narciso (732bc0)

  220. nk,

    He might appeal to Abe and Mink but I doubt Flem would be impressed by him.

    Rick Ballard (04482a)

  221. #222 nk,

    When referring to the Snopeses, you must be talkin’ bout Faulkner’s trilogy, eh?
    I haven’t read any of the three, but I do have a couple of Faulkner biographies, so I’m familiar with them.
    Incidentally, the trilogy was loosely condensed into one screenplay entitled “The Long Hot Summer,” starring Paul Newman, Joanne Woodward, and Orson Welles.
    Welles played the patriarch of the family, kind of a “Big Daddy” meets “Boss Hogg” type of character.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  222. and they did a remake with don johnson in the newman role,

    narciso (732bc0)

  223. kishnevi,

    It doesn’t matter what you guys label Trump … Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Pontius Pilate, or Yosemite Sam — it doesn’t matter.
    You’re still going to be governed by either him or Hillary.

    The hysterical suggestion that Trump would fire Attorney General Chris Christie for the crime of administering the DoJ in accordance with Constitutional law is so cartoonish. It almost sounds like a meme that the John Birch Society would have printed up on a flyer 50 years ago.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  224. #229 narciso,

    Yes, that’s right!
    I forgot about the Don Johnson re-make. I never saw that one.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  225. that’s the first one I recall,

    narciso (732bc0)

  226. 194. 220.

    @Luke Stywalker (d5e24e) — 7/27/2016 @ 6:35 am

    Precisely. Adolf was the only other choice in 1933, if you didn’t want to elect a socialist

    This is all wrong. He lost the race for president in 1932, and a lot of liberals voted for the lesser of two evils, Hindenberg, who had been oersuaded to run for re-election at an advanced age.

    But the thing was, the Nazi Party only had to win oce. This was a mixed Presidental and Parliamentary system, and numerous elections were held for the Reichstag, which was largely chose by proportional representation, because it was impossible to put together a coalition.

    The Nazis never got more than about 38% of the vote in all the free elections that were held in Germany, and then later invoked emergency powers, so this can indeed be thought as the result of a defect in the constitution of the Weimar Republic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_July_1932

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_November_1932

    They didn’t get a majority even in the 5 March 1933 federal elections, shortly before which the Communist Party leader was arrested:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  227. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/27/2016 @ 9:01 am

    the trilogy was loosely condensed into one screenplay entitled “The Long Hot Summer,” starring Paul Newman, Joanne Woodward, and Orson Welles.

    Welles played the patriarch of the family, kind of a “Big Daddy” meets “Boss Hogg” type of character.

    A 1958 movie, runnning time 117 minute.

    The remake was made in 1985 for MTV and has a running time of 208 minutes.

    But I don’t think I saw either of them, and am not familiar with the characters.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  228. I think the one most faithful to Faulkner is “Barn Burning” with Tommy Lee Jones. YouTube seems to have it in its entirety, but not great screen size, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFnc7b7kt4U

    nk (dbc370)


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