Ted Cruz: “I am quite confident there will never be a plane on the face of the earth with my name on it”
As the Great Con Man Show starts tonight, the man who will take center stage Wednesday night, Ted Cruz, has given a long interview to Politico (cached link; no links for bullies). It contains hints of what Cruz will say:
Cruz wouldn’t talk specifically about what he plans to say — it’s sure to include a healthy portion of attacks on Hillary Clinton — but he made it clear that his goals extend well beyond getting Trump elected.
“Most wars are not won in a single battle,” said Cruz, who is still paying campaign staff to plan and to create a detailed post-mortem of the 2016 primaries (one thing he’s looking at, I’m told: whether his “New York values” quip about Trump was a blunder). [I can solve that for you, Ted. It was. — Ed.[
“What I’m looking forward to is changing the course this country is on. I don’t know if that happens in this election cycle or not,” he added.
There is also some fun stuff about his (quite valid) complaints about Fox News shilling for the Con Man:
“Four weeks before we dropped out, we were winning the race,” Cruz told me. “Eighty percent of [Marco Rubio’s] supporters came to us and the party was unifying behind us. … In the 30 days before Indiana primary, Trump got $500 million in free media, 90 percent was positive. What the media said on every station is, ‘Trump is unbeatable, he can’t be beaten’ — while he’s losing.”
It’s no secret that Cruz’s team and his allies have a beef with Fox News for what they believe to be pro-Trump bias (one person in Cruz’s orbit said he’s so disgusted with Fox he hasn’t watched the network since he dropped out in May). But he sees a more insidious hidden hand behind the media’s Trump obsession: liberal news executives who elevated Trump in the primary because they think he’s the only candidate Hillary Clinton can actually beat in a general election.
“I think many of the mainstream media players are liberal Democrats,” Cruz explained. “They intend to vote for Hillary. They believed Donald was the easiest candidate for Hillary to beat. And I think many of them wanted him to win the nomination. I don’t think it was innocent decision-making behind this.”
He also thinks Bernie Sanders got the same shaft from a news media that declared him prematurely dead. “I think Hillary’s nomination and I think Donald Trump’s nomination, I think the media played decisive roles in both of them,” said Cruz, a media-accessible guy who has often run against media elites, as I pointed out to him. “We saw media as decision makers in primaries in a way we have never seen before.”
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His goal: to spend 60 cents out of every dollar he raised on “voter contact” — either through volunteer door-knocking, email marketing, on-the-cheap candidate events (he flew Southwest for most of the campaign, quipping, “I am quite confident there will never be a plane on the face of the earth with my name on it”) and paid advertising. The penny pinching took on greater urgency when Cruz saw how much time CNN and Fox were devoting to live feeds of Trump’s empty podium and his plane idling on the tarmac. “Trump received $3 billion in free media. There is no precedent for that in the history of politics,” he told me.
With all the talk about what a weak candidate Trump is, it doesn’t sound like Ted Cruz is fully aboard the Trump Train, at least not yet. Which is good . . . because the day he climbs aboard is the day I get off the Cruz Train.
In the meantime, enjoy Scott Baio!!!
Ding.
Patterico (5c77c6) — 7/18/2016 @ 7:33 amStill half convinced Trump intends to throw it. And now that Trump has walked back the muslim immigration halt, I say again that Trumpkins are rubes.
SPQR (a3a747) — 7/18/2016 @ 7:47 amBad as happyfeets is, I wonder if he has made his feet happy with DJT socks?
kishnevi (98ea1b) — 7/18/2016 @ 7:56 amhttp://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/17/scott-baio-donald-trump-republican-national-convention
I can not stand this man.
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/13/trump-on-republicans-holding-the-senate-i-hope-they-do-but-i-dont-mind-being-a-free-agent-either/
No it doesn’t make it better to point out Hillary! is worse.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 7:59 amTrump can run the government with all with most Dens and the left of center Reps. If he was stuck with this choice he will be seen as one of the most effective presidents for moving things along.
Davod (f3a711) — 7/18/2016 @ 8:08 amYou’re wrong about the “New York values” line, Patterico. Cruz didn’t come up with that, Trump did.
But the Trumpkin shills in the media wouldn’t report that Cruz’ line was a response to Trump’s own claim that “Iowa values” weren’t his values.
Was that damaging to Cruz’ campaign? I don’t think Ted Cruz would have ever won primary votes in New York State, regardless. But the effect of the media misportrayal was harmful on a net basis in other places, too.
So can you criticize Cruz for failing to anticipate that the media would fellate Trump on this. But if so, that criticism, taken to its logical conclusion, would simply have told not only Cruz, but all 15 other GOP candidates, that they couldn’t overcome the media swoon over Donald Trump, and they all should have quit before they started.
Cruz didn’t do that. He fought, hard, as long as there was a glimmer. And that is something of which I’m proud and appreciative.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 8:09 am^^^ At the front of the media swoon, of course, were Sean Hannity et al. from Fox, each of whom I believe should be sentenced to eight years in media hellfire and purgatory before their forced retirements to staff a cable TV channel in Paraguay.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 8:12 amOur host wrote above (ellipsis his):
Be prepared for Sen. Cruz to make a speech at the convention that is a clarion call to return to constitutional government — all of which will shoot right over the heads of the shallow, ego-obsessed nominee-presumptive and 98% of his Trumpkins — and to savage Hillary Clinton, Obama, and the Dems.
Trump will then work very hard to spin that as “Cruz getting on the Trump train.” His media sycophants at Fox, Breitbart, and elsewhere will insist that Cruz not only bent the knee but groveled obesience. That will be inconsistent with Cruz’ actual words, which I suspect will be carefully chosen, leaving much implied damning-by-silence or damning-by-faint-praise for those of us who pay attention.
So pay attention. I don’t want you to get off the train prematurely.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 8:23 amharvardtrash ted is vastly overstating the influence of the fox news i think
if he’s not gonna take an honest look at why he was resoundingly rejected by the voters in favor of Mr. Trump then he’s not gonna learn from his mistakes is he
no
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 8:28 amI’m definitely curious to see how Cruz is playing this. He is of course much smarter than Trump, and much more well informed. I’m glad to see he hasn’t come out with an endorsement, and I would bet that his speech will be nothing about Trump but all about principles. Principles Trump does not care about, and which will be a slap in the face to Trump.
His analysis of the rise of Trump is dead on. He didn’t play the media, the media played him. They constantly gave him positive air time for free. He was almost always the first one interviewed after debates. They didn’t delve into the criticisms the other candidates gave him. They didn’t delve into any of the issues of Trump. And yes, I believe its because Trump gave them good ratings, and also conveniently would be the best to go against Clinton.
My only quibble is that Cruz should not have held off from attacking Trump early in the race. He should have hit him hard and often.
Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1) — 7/18/2016 @ 8:45 amI’m cool with Ted. He gave it his best. Not enough republicans were smart enough to vote for him in the primary.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:36 amI think Ted was making the calculation that support for Trump would eventually taper off, and those Trump supporters would likely be most comfortable throwing their support to Ted.
That’s why he didn’t attack Trump early on — he didn’t want to alienate Trump’s sycophants.
None of us foresaw that Trump would actually become the nominee — it’s a nightmare. If we had a Rubio/Jindal ticket right now, we might be walking away with the election.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:42 amThe MFM knew what they were doing wrt the makeup of the Trump demographic and they know the electoral value of the demographic (too light). What they can’t know is the extent of the damage being done by the Black Klan cop lynching. Obama’s attempt to use BLM as an action arm to create the illusion of strength for OFA race hustling and driving turnout in the plantations could wind up defeating Clinton. His unerring application of his Merde Touch throughout his maladministration strongly suggests a probable outcome contrary to design.
It’s still a bum fight by the light of a dumpster fire with both contestants capable of irrecoverable error at any moment.
Rick Ballard (9d3149) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:49 amBe prepared for Sen. Cruz to make a speech at the convention that is a clarion call to return to constitutional government — all of which will shoot right over the heads of the shallow, ego-obsessed nominee-presumptive and 98% of his Trumpkins — and to savage Hillary Clinton, Obama, and the Dems.
Trump will then work very hard to spin that as “Cruz getting on the Trump train.” His media sycophants at Fox, Breitbart, and elsewhere will insist that Cruz not only bent the knee but groveled obesience.
I’m really interested in seeing if Cruz can deliver a speech without once saying, “I urge you to stand behind D____ T____ this November.” Can he really speak at the convention without formally endorsing his former foe?
JVW (eabb2a) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:50 amI hope Cruz doesn’t endorse Trump. If he doesn’t, then I’m curious whether Cruz be able to finish his speech without the Trump people cutting his audio/mic.
DRJ (15874d) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:10 amWOW THE WISHFUL THINKING IN THIS THREAD IS THICK.
Go read a real analysis of how the media treated him:
“Trump has been running on an implicit anti-media platform since the beginning. Within the mainstream media, and especially during the nationally televised debates, he’s been the object almost entirely of half-truths, snark, and naysaying. At the debates, he gets asked far nastier questions, in such a baldfaced tone, than any of the other candidates.
When he draws thousands and tens of thousands at local rallies, he makes a point every time to inform the TV viewers that the media cameras will never pan to show the full scope of his massive crowds, even when he directs them to. It’s their passive-aggressive way of trying to play down his popularity and the unwavering enthusiasm of his supporters compared to everyone else’s supporters.
In his speeches, he emphasizes time and again how dishonest the press is, to raucous applause.
Other candidates may complain about the liberal bias in the media, but Trump made it clear tonight that he takes it personally and will not forget. In his open-ended initial answer to a question about what your weakness is, he said that he is too trusting, but if that trust is betrayed, he will never forget and never forgive. If it struck the viewers as an out-of-place answer, perhaps he was giving the CNBC talking head moderators a warning not to jerk him around in front of a live national audience, and to treat the front-runner with a little respect and seriousness.
Enter question #1: “Aaaaannnnndd Mr. Trump, like, seriously? What’s up with your comic-book version of a presidential campaign?”
Later question to a rival: “Aaaaannnnd Mr. Huckabee, you emphasize the importance of morality in politics. Do you think Mr. Trump passes the moral threshold cleared by Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama? Or is he literally the devil incarnate?”
What, was CNBC doing some cross-promotion with tranny SJWs submitting questions from Tumblr?”
Cruz lost because he had no street game, no instinctive sense of what the people needed or wanted, no ability to think outside the legally-airtight and donor-approved talking points, and no fundamental sense of loyalty or fair play. Therefore he could never gain a critical mass of supporters outside of the mountain and flyover states.
Thanks for reminding us that you’ve learned absolutely nothing about American demographics or motivations since the beginning!
Dystopia Max (76803a) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:16 amBen Sasse 2020
Reaganite Republican (98e37e) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:25 amDystopia Max, if you don’t understand how your referenced blog post from October of last year does nothing to refute the comments above, well … you must be a Trump supporter.
SPQR (a3a747) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:34 amCSPAN coverage of the Republican National Convention
http://www.c-span.org/video/?412399-1/2016-republican-national-convention-underway-cleveland&live=
Live in progress (but they have a link to the start of the event if you want to see previous speakers)
One thing to note right away – the NBC News working list of people who will not be attending is as screwed up as their nightly report – Senator Benn Sasse is there.
Ben Sasse on the rules committee.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:37 amYou do realize that those weren’t actual questions don’t you? No I guess you don’t.
Give us some examples of Cruz’s donor approved talking points. And why exactly would people in flyover country and mountain states tend to like those talking points?
Gerald A (945582) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:39 amCheck the ego on Trebek.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:47 amI come by once in a while, Patrick, to see what you are thinking now that we are in the campaign.
I’m disappointed. See you after the election.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:54 amReally? You’re going to try to pin this joke of a politician on the media, too? MSM has spent its time cutting down Trump, not glorifying him. So if what you allege is true, then the Republican party is full of idiots anyway. As if highlighting his faults, got him the nomination.
Tillman (a95660) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:00 amThe fact that Trump was able to successfully attack the awful media is to his credit.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:01 amTillman, we get that you don’t understand the argument. No need to show us that you can’t follow it.
SPQR (a3a747) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:03 amtogether we can prevent stinkypig clinton from doing president up all our butts (she’s malevolent)
deep down even Ted Cruz knows this
you should know it too
it’ll be on the test
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:05 amWhat? No Wayne Newton? Where’s the promised Vegas/Hollywood sizzle?
There are more stars peddling crap on the Home Shopping Network than at The Great White Hope Show.
DCSCA (a343d5) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:09 amCruz Supporter goes on about how no one here foresaw Trump as the nominee. Dystopian Max seems to get a lot of things right. These are often things you don’t like, sure, but he has his pulse on what’s going on, including large number of people’s, counting Republicans, actual sentiments.
When I get something hugely wrong, I try and figure out how and why. I’m not sure how SPQR and others here have great confidence in both their predictions and grasps of the situations. Maybe, just possibly, this is a time for learning more than confidence.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:10 amFirst, I actually watched the media coverage of Trump. God help me, but I watched it. They were so favorable to him during the primaries.
Second, the fact that you think Cruz had no street game makes me think you know nothing about his campaign. I’d recommend you do some research on his primary campaign.
Third, please provide some “donor-approved talking points”. Does that include opposing ethanol subsidies, unlike Trump? Does that include opposing the establishment at every turn, unlike Trump?
Finally, the idea that Cruz isn’t loyal, or that attacking him for no fair play- when Trump implied Cruz’s father helped kill JFK- is utterly laughable.
Unlike you, I can be honest about that rise of Trump. I do not doubt he tapped into something for a substantial minority of Republicans. He certainly motivated them. However, looking at the actual voters, its clear that most of them were reliable establishment voters. What helped Trump was A) a compliant media, and B) a large field with many that waited too long to drop out.
Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:13 amAnd not just learning how other people (voters) are buffoons. I mean learning what they may accurately perceive that you don’t.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:13 amWhat are you talking about?
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:17 amThe point is people know Donald Trump enough that media attacks, especially the emotive type of banging the spoon on their highchair attack, reflects poorly upon the author.
Seriously, if consider your judgement superior to Senator Cruz, after a lifetime of public service in LA, why aren’t you running for the Senate yourself?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:20 amwhat is the color of the moon, on your world usul?
narciso (732bc0) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:34 amCleveland is America’s toilet and this week, it is clogged with T/P.
DCSCA (a343d5) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:38 amWonder what Trump had to pay for the Chachi endorsement? That is YUGE!
Ghost Rider (577e96) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:42 amHere ya go:
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:54 amhttp://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/03/20/donald-trump-political-establishment-elites-tea-party-bourgeois-working-class-column/82047484/
Trump just echoed, and maybe carried a bit further, ideas that were prevalent on talk radio that were not supported by anyone in politics, but had gone uncontradicted, and he deliberately said things that nobody else would support, usually because there were some things wrong with these ideas, but that they didn’t, or couldn’t, or didn’t know how to, argue against.
That’s how he got where he is.
There used to be the same sort of problem arguing against socialism.
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 7/18/2016 @ 12:06 pmThose are assertions. You haven’t even given enough to detail that a person could respond to them or have any clue if you are right or wrong.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 12:14 pmeyes on target,
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437883/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation
narciso (732bc0) — 7/18/2016 @ 12:15 pmnarciso’s link
That’s the why in why were the MSM bothering us about Trump charity – and boy did Patterico buy into it.
Chump.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 12:21 pmlook he wasn’t my cup of oolong, but enough with the macho grande routine, the ‘machines will not be turned back on’ in any event,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/18/2016 @ 12:25 pmYou got played dude. Maybe it’s not too late to right it off as a contribution in kind to the elect Hillary fund.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 12:26 pmConversely, Hollywood celebrities pay big for their Hillary endorsements either directly, or if they fail to toe the line, in lost employment opportunity.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 12:32 pmtake kate del castillo, (google her and you’ll see why) she’s ticked off the first family of
narciso (732bc0) — 7/18/2016 @ 12:35 pmmexico, sort of like the razorbacks with better manner, and having learned nothing from the exercise, she’s decided to take oo trump,
you may fire when ready,
ttp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/leaked-secret-document-iran-deal-shows-will-easier-iran-build-nuke-thought/
narciso (732bc0) — 7/18/2016 @ 1:01 pmWe need someone with rhetorical skills to push back against the voices of destruction of traditional culture. I hope Ted Cruz is that man.
Patricia (5fc097) — 7/18/2016 @ 1:48 pm“We need someone with rhetorical skills to push back against the voices of destruction of traditional culture. I hope Ted Cruz is that man.”
Pat Buchanan is that man, and we all know how the #NeverTrumpers feel about giving him a platform.
“And why exactly would people in flyover country and mountain states tend to like those talking points?”
Mountain/Square state people with a disconnected frontier culture and constant brain-drain away from their organic communities are more easily influenced by both national narratives and an apocalyptic religious outlook to counteract them. Ironically, planning on destroying their country or at least waiting for the apocalypse rather than fixing their country and culture means that they don’t much mind people like Sheldon Adelson or Mark Zuckerberg dominating politics in the interim-if the world’s going to hell anyway, may as well make money (not waves) any way you can, even if it’s in running poorly regulated industries or helping the federal government build its surveillance state (koffkoffMORMONSkoffkoff.)
The population of the world is too large to run and practice your virtue in the wilderness anymore. You learn to stand and fight, and by implication every social support that enables you to stand and fight, or you get thrown to the wolves.
Dystopia Max (76803a) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:07 pmwe did muslim axe terrorist in 2014, in new york city
but he did not axe them on a train
instead he axed them in the rain
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:13 pmTed’s core mistake was giving DT a free pass for s long as he did. It was a strategic and fully conscious error. Perfectly understandable. The NY values remark was also an error. He gave the media and DT ammo which would hit home with an ignorant and angry electorate. To be clear – he spoke the pure truth.
Ted also could not find a way to be more “folksy” as Rubio, and yes, DT, did. It was a failing of presentation. No question. He was a champ at staying on message, but he used identical phrasing too often. That helped cement his robotic image. The truth is he is a very warm man. He rarely managed to convey this across a the cold medium of TV, however.
I’m never going to forgive Rubio for his refusal to accept Ted’s outreach to him to forge a winning combination. We would not be on this mess but for Rubio’s pride and ego.
I very much look forward to Cruz’ lawyerly non-endorsement endorsement of DT.
Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:20 pmSo now that your guy lost you call the winner a “con man”.
….and what were Romney, McCain and Bush? “con men”?
I mean 2 of the previous nominees choked and the one that one turned out to help set the middle east & Europe on fire and gave us the run up to unlimited debt and bailouts, called McCain off of the campaign trail when he was leading, which in turn gave us 8 yrs of Obama. Romney crashed and burned like loser he has always been, when he choked in the 2nd debate and was a no-show organization on election day with a weak & faulty turn out organization.
you say Trump is a “con man”? how do you square the pointy-headed losers the Republicans have had since 2000?
you know the 3 idiots who gave us Obama? and Trump BTW.
If the 3 lame amigos had simply acted like conservatives instead of the RINOs & liberals they really were/are, you wouldnt have to feign now being the “True Conservative” believers & work to defeat Trump.
The nevertrumpers are so lame & fake. all they want is Hillary Clinton in power to help solidify the liberal progressive agenda for another 8 more years. Because they are liberals in conservative clothing.
Erick Erichson’s bed-wetting today was just pathetic. Erick should realize he already helped get Hitler elected when he made the case to vote for Bush, Romney and McCain, which in turn gave us Obama.
total ******.
John (d41b3a) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:24 pmI think that it will be possible for a lot of Republicans who despise Trump, and who certainly will never support Trump, to cast a ballot against Hillary.
In the end, if the choice is another decade of this suicidal kleptocracy, cemented in place by judicial stooges, or kicking the table over and hoping for a miracle, the latter is marginally more appealing.
What might have been. Yes. All of that. Any of a half dozen other, better, choices. But failing some miracle third choice we have what we have.
This had better work, too. Because if it doesn’t, and it devolves into civil war, the FIRST people up against the wall with be the Trumpies.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:25 pm*
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:27 pmwithwillIf only Admiral Wright had given the same orders to destroyers van. Launch the f***ing torpedoes. CDR Cole could have changed the whole battle.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:28 pmif i was stupid harvardtrash ted I’d endorse Mr. Trump with enthusiasm cause of Mr. Trump’s the number one best way to beat stinkypig
this is called doing strategy
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:33 pmSo, the RNC won’t even follow normal procedure, or its own rules, as it jams this crap down our throats. There is no Rule of Law even here.
When they ask “why are our donations drying up?”, this is why.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:36 pmhttp://f.tqn.com/y/militaryhistory/1/W/W/b/-/-/battle-of-tassafaronga-large.jpg
If you think you had a bad day, every single man in turret one and turret two lost their life.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:36 pmYou know, Gore picking this guy instead of Palpatine might have prevented Bush and obstructed Obama. http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/bob-graham-on-911-documents-the-trail-is-still-substantial-ahead-of-us/2285583
urbanleftbehind (e9382f) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:39 pma bit of levity, richly deserved,
http://www.miamiherald.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/dave-barry/article90278682.html
narciso (732bc0) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:48 pmWow, we could have had Rubio. Or maybe Bush.
I never liked Fiorina even when I voted for her. Talk about an opportunistic chameleon. There was just no way I’d let an election go without voting against Babs, so Fiorina for the Senate. Big mistake for her not declining the offer of VP and filing for the Senate in California.
Do you think Cruz meant to remove her?
Anyway. We could have had one of those guys.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:53 pmIf he’d attacked Trump sooner, Trump would have knocked him out sooner.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 2:53 pmStomp stomp clap… stomp stomp clap… stomp stomp clap… stomp stomp clap…
The “stomp” part of Queen’s – We will Rock You is a microphone, used as a drum stick, banging the bass drum. (YouTube)
That’s incredible. When I think of all the high school bleachers destroyed using the tribal method.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:07 pmHard to believe the 2012 Mittonites think they matter. With mormons like lee and romney and reid let them vote for the commie.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:09 pmI am so ***ing full of shit.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:25 pmTed Cruz: “I am quite confident there will never be a plane on the face of the earth with my name on it.”
See the ‘Old Crow Express’… a Boeing B-52G Stratofortress. Then look in the mirror, Ted.
DCSCA (a343d5) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:26 pmOn my part, I am happy that the anti-Cruzers are allowed to have [mechanical genital stimulators]. And they know what they can do with them.
nk (dbc370) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:31 pmI await moderation.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:31 pmI wish the republicans would fight the democrats as hard as they do Trump and his voters. I guess that is why we have Trump. The lying and taking a knee on phantom punches from a washington general like obama gets old.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:36 pmStomp stomp clap… stomp stomp clap
millennials lol
so cute
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:36 pmhah look at their little millennial faces
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:38 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnC5dyIuut4
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:42 pmgood stuff
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:42 pmhappyfeet
mg, I wish Trump had fought Hillary instead of donating to her presidential campaign and running around telling everyone who would listen she would make a great president.
But it seems like he hates conservatives a lot more. This GOP can’t summon the willpower to nominate a conservative, and instead goes with this hustler democrat in a hostile takeover, because it’s led by the nose by the media, and because too many Kasichs refuse to drop out when they know the only impact is to ruin the nomination process. Too many stupids at all levels, and too many millions of democrats crossing over, giggling at their vote for Trump, which is really a vote to ruin our primary process.
I see through it. A lot of us do. We’re not playing ball. The GOP has got to go. Until it does, nothing gets fixed. Hillary’s not the real problem. Lefty politics are a force of nature. If you lack the willpower to stand up to it, you’re going to lose.
It’s like a car with broken brakes. You don’t boogeyman gravity and hills when your brakes are broken. You replace the brakes. The GOP is broken. Shaking our pitchforks at Hillary won’t change that millions of Americans are degenerates who seek socialism. We need to fix the process so we have a vote for someone who would fix this.
Trump’s never heard of a big government establishment boondoggle he didn’t love. Why would I support that? Hell, the guy obviously hates the cause, given the way he smeared Cruz’s family. We can see who our friends are and who our enemies are. Any Conservative who votes for Trump is a coward or a sucker.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:44 pmWhat’s with the helmets, those aint cowboys.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:45 pmHeaded and healen was a moneymaker for me.
I used to think I was a conservative, oh dopey me. The RNC deserves complete breakdown. That is the main reason for Trump. The elites are having a cerebral hemorrhage and I want more. No big money at these conventions is what this country needs. The republican party is toast. Hip-Hip- Yahooey.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:51 pmSo, Colorado and Iowa delegations have withdrawn from the convention. I wonder whose name will be on the ballots in those states.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:52 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtCIB3wZKzY
This or inside the octagon.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:54 pmmg,
What do you expect to see replace the GOP? Some hard-right major party that you just KNOW the public is really really clamoring for? Or is this one of those “Oh, when it gets so very bad under the socialists, THEN they’ll see I was right!” things that worked so well in the Soviet Union from 1917 to 1990?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:54 pm#28 Denver Guy,
Most people didn’t think Trump would last. I don’t know why you’re pounding on me for that same opinion.
Trump isn’t super knowledgeable about politics or world affairs. On his radio show last year, Hugh Hewitt asked him a very reasonable question about Al Quds forces, and Trump responded as if he believed Hewitt was referring to the Kurds. He didn’t know the difference.
When there’s 9 or 10 people on a primary debate stage, a Trump can hide behind short soundbites and jabs and insults. In such a crowded forum, he can mask his lack of knowledge because it might be another 15 minutes before he fields another question.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:55 pmBut in a one-on-one debate situation this October, he may really be exposed for his lack of detailed knowledge.
The primary race is one thing, but the general election is a totally different animal. That’s why it’s important to have someone as the nominee who is articulate and knowledgeable.
So @72, what do we do?
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:57 pmThere were people who did, right? My point is you could try learning from them, and not just facile, surface lessons. Trump’s appeal is not trivial. There are deep problems in the country and he addressed them in the most direct ways.
These problems may be different than the ones you think are the great priorities, but to a lot of people they are.
“The primary race is one thing, but the general election is a totally different animal. That’s why it’s important to have someone as the nominee who is articulate and knowledgeable.”
He’s going up in polling as we speak.
Anyway, we’ll see. I think he’ll win the general election handily, just like I thought he would win the nomination.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:57 pmElections are driven by events. The events are playing into Trump’s perceived strengths.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:58 pmOf course, if Gary Johnson had any brains (evidence is he does not), he would be running as a Tea Party Republican and forget all that Libertarian pot-pie-in-the-sky nonsense. It may be that some day the US public will be ready for a return to libertarian values, but that day isn’t today and it will never happen in one fell swoop.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:59 pm@ John (#50), either a new commenter or a new sockpuppet but obviously a Trumpkin shill either way, who wrote:
These things do not connect to one another. Obviously both McCain and Romney lost, and I’m not inclined to argue about why or whose fault that was. But even granting your point, that says nothing whatsoever about Trump’s fitness.
Your logic is as broken as Trump’s. You guys really can’t manage to string together three coherent thoughts into a logical argument. It’s all just slogans and shouts.
Sad!
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 3:59 pmThe events are playing into Trump’s perceived strengths.
Not today. Today he looks like a thug, to his fellow republicans.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:00 pmHe’s got a point. Even if Trump is a con man, the GOP has pulled the football away on the main issues, including immigration, that the base cares about several times running. Trump saw this and made it his signature issue.
This was a smart strategic decision.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:00 pmBasically you’re all hatefulfeet. Some of you use capital letters.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:01 pm
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:01 pmThe events are playing into Trump’s perceived strengths.
Well we, like a large plurality of the GOP primary voters, share a similar set of opinions, just like you do and other Cruz supporters do. I’m not sure why it surprises you that the Republican nominee for President has supporters that by and large agree with him and each other.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:03 pm“Trump saw this and made it his signature issue.”
You mean he talks about it a lot. Yes. And yes, it’s very big talk, coming from a guy who’s paid a million dollar fine for breaking the immigration laws by employing illegal aliens to build his signature property, Trump Tower.
But however bad the previous GOP nominees were, doesn’t mean Trump is good. He has to make his own case that he actually can do something other than talk — talk’s cheap, and when it’s as self-contradictory as Trump’s talk, it’s worse than cheap, it’s offensive. That’s what con men do, is talk.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:04 pmDenver Guy,
Sometimes the polls are right, sometimes they’re wrong.
But it’s the electoral college that counts.
Anyhow, it’s July.
Most people are paying attention to baseball and summer movies.
The debates are going to be a big deal. Hillary’s not a good debater, although as former First Lady, former Senator, and former Secretary of State, she will be able to pull an Al Gore VS George W Bush, and cite nuanced bills or treaties which her opponent simply won’t have a handle on. It’s important to pass the “I can see this person as President” test, and engaging in frat boy name-calling and bantering may work against him.
If Trump wins, it won’t be “handily.”
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:06 pmCome on, the electoral college is not in Republicans’ favor. We have to flip several states.
The other question after the convention is “Who else is going to run?”
A Kasich write-in candidacy would not surprise me. He has the ego. He’ll have nice words, initially, from the MSM, and he may actually have a lot of centrist support. As everyone points out, Hillary is an awful choice and makes Trump palatable. I’d sure prefer it was someone more capable and less, well, Jar-Jar, but only Romney or maybe Walker have the stature to pull it off and I doubt they’ll do it.
60% of the voters dislike both candidates and want a third option. Corrupt ballot laws make independent challenges AFTER the conventions difficult, but there is a well-established right to cast a write-in vote and have it counted. Just ask Senator Murkowski.
Of course, I hate Kasich, too, so it doesn’t help me much.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:10 pmTrue. Once he has power, he can. He can’t do anything about it until he has the Office. Neither could any other of the former candidates.
We’ll see what he does. He may be the most serious immigration reform candidate in decades and decades. Or, he could let the 1965 Immigration Act continue to destroy the country (and doom the right’s electoral chances and/or force it to keep moving left to maintain electoral viability).
Time will tell. I just don’t understand how you know Trump won’t take the main issue he’s been campaigning on seriously.
I’m willing to give him a chance. I certainly think giving Hillary a chance is a terrible idea.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:12 pm“Trump saw this and made it his signature issue.”
i’m playing with using a dash of campari instead of bitters in my signature martini
i think it’s fun cause of it remains true to the drink’s italian origins and I accompany it with those fancy onions i get from eataly
cause of the color the campari imparts i’ve taken to using super-chilled stainless steel martini glasses
what i want to try next Mr. Beldar is to garnish it with dandelion greens from the ho fooz
i love taking things in a herbaceous direction yes yes but also I think the colour will nicely complement the hue imparted by the campari
wish me luck
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:17 pmWell, you were wrong before about the nomination and I think you’re wrong now, but we’ll find out. Here are a few smart people who agree with me as it happens, but again, time will tell the tale:
Andrew MacLeod
Scott Adams
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:18 pmDan Cavna
Continuing:
Roger Simon
Going by memory here, Republican primary turnout is up something like a little over 60% and Democrat primary turnout is down over 20%.
There is a possibility you might be wrong here, respectfully.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:19 pmWe don’t need immigration reform. We need immigration enforcement.
The reason I don’t believe anything Trump says about immigration law is that he’s demonstrated by his words that he has no consistent, coherent policy — he borrowed Jeff Sessions’ for a while, but he’s already abandoned that, and Sessions — and he’s already contradicted himself on major parts of it repeatedly. Plus there’s that whole $1M fine thing, which you may think is trivial but which I think marks Trump as a world-class scofflaw specifically on the subject of immigration law.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:20 pmAs much as simple quotes like that may not be your style and you may not like how Trump handled protesters, this is a great example of why he won the nomination.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:21 pmKevin M – I have no faith in any of these hacks. right or left. I will sell my soul – making sure bill’s wife never becomes president.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:33 pmTrump is an outsider, not a lawyer and has fight. Way more than mittens showed up with. And I voted for that numbskull 3 times. Senate race against the drunk driving killer Ted, His lame butt governorship and his give up and pout presidential run. I’m a 3x loser.
Denver Guy wrote (#91):
You’re part of the Nancy Pelosi school of elections, huh? Got to put the candidate into the very top office in the country, in a four-year commitment, before we can have a single clue how he’ll perform, huh?
I think not. Every other GOP candidate, from Cruz all the way down to Jim Gilmore, had a meaningful career of public service. We wouldn’t have had to guess what Ted Cruz would do on Obamacare, for example, because we’ve seen Ted Cruz line himself up against his own party’s congressional leadership to expose their capitulation to the Dems. That’s useful predictive data.
No, you and your fellow Trump fans have deliberately chosen a guy who’s completely unpredictable because he has no past record as a public servant. You argue that is a feature, not a bug. If so, it’s a feature shared by more than 300 million Americans who are equally without a meaningful record of public service. Why not just pick one of them at random, if all you want is random? You’d be unlikely to pick someone who’s had to pay a $1M fine for breaking the immigration laws, for example.
Trump does, however, have a record of crony capitalism, so the one thing I can predict from past performance with a high degree certainty is that he’d give the Clintons a good run for the money (literally) when it comes to outright corruption. There are other differences between Trump and the Clintons, but on the corruption front they’re indistinguishable as far as I’m concerned.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:33 pmTrump has a massive lead among military personnel, more than lapping Hillary Clinton.
I could assume that the military is full of idiots, but instead I’m going to assume they care about national security more than ruminating that their pet candidate lost in the primaries.
It happens to us all. Unite for the security of the country (and the nature of the Supreme Court). Keep Hillary Clinton out of power.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:34 pm@ Denver Guy (#96): Congress isn’t going to start holding its deliberations at rallies presided over by Donald Trump.
He can crook his finger at a security guy? Wow, that’s obviously presidential timber there, a regular George Washington!
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:35 pmWorks for me.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:36 pmhe’s so good so fresh so new
i get the feeling there’s nothing he can’t do
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:36 pmSteve-57
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:36 pmRodeo and helmets.
skiing and helmets.
Biking and helmets
Pussyfication of the once mighty male.
poor sad bitter mittens
him and jeb could commiserate
but they hate each other too much
cause they’re small and hatey men
it just never happened for them
and they’re not handling it with even a little grace are they
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:38 pmI don’t even know what you’re talking about here. You just said the problem was enforcement, not laws.
Well guess who does immigration enforcement? The executive branch.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:44 pmTrump takes out Jeb and the entire Boosh family in a TKO.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:47 pmTrump wins the nomination with more votes than ever.
Trump wins in a landslide without the bitter clinging constitutionalists who never gave a darn about it the last 8 years, taking out the Clinton crime family. A double TKO.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:33 pm
Donald Trump did not pay a fine for breaking the immigration laws. The immigration laws are man-made and not natural, malum prohibitums and not malums per se, and in 1980 what he did, did not violate any immigration laws, and would not violate any immigration laws until after 1986. This is like accusing someone of not paying certain taxes before the tax law was passed.
His problem was not paying the minimum wage and overtime, and colluding with a union official to cheat the union’s pension fund. He was not prosecuted, and he was not fined. He was sued, and he eventually settled, in 1999, when he was planning his first serious run for president (for the nomination of Ross Perot’s “Reform Party” and its federal matching funds. I think actually theer were two lawsuits.
Come on. The Clintons are much better at cover-ups, and always plan the cover-up before the crime, and, if at all possible, won’t do the crime if they don’t feel they can cover it up. And there are cerrtain crimes that they do or did that I think Trump wouldn’t do.
Sammy Finkelman (372aad) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:48 pmAnd raises primary turnout 60% from 2012.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:49 pmA prediction: this election will go to the candidate with the dumbest supporters. It’s going to be hard-fought.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:51 pmlol
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:51 pmAlas, Newt is trying to compare The Great White Dope to William Jennings Bryan.
Wrong, Newtie, as usual. More like Waylon Jennings…’Turn out the lights, ‘my’ party’s over…’
DCSCA (a343d5) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:52 pmAnd raises primary turnout 60% from 2012.
Yes, because contested primaries went a month longer and reached the bigger states. This is one of those statistics that LOOKS good, but is really not good at all. A really popular candidate sews it up in February.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:53 pmMakes sense, Kevin. However, the race is tightening now and, regardless of Trump’s quality, the country suffering an insurgency by black lives matter and jihadis killing people the world over, including here, on an accelerating timetable, plus the country mostly believing Clinton is a liar on national security info no less, does not bode well for Clinton.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:59 pmDenver Guy,
The fact that I and many others didn’t foresee Trump winning the nomination has nothing to do with the cold hard facts of the electoral college math.
Since you were “right” about predicting Trump’s nomination, why don’t you kindly enlighten us as to which states specifically you foresee Trump flipping, thereby enabling his electoral college victory.
I intend to vote for him, but it looks like some really tough math to overcome.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:59 pmSince she was Secretary of State and her party was in power when all these evil things this blossomed.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:00 pmMichigan. Pennsylvania. Florida. Iowa.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:01 pm“A really popular candidate sews it up in February.”
I seem to recall that the Republican nominating process was specifically restructured to defeat certain ‘really popular candidates’ early.
Dystopia Max (76803a) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:03 pmWell, plus there were 17 candidates, many of whom initially highly credible candidates!
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:05 pmnone of the news sluts anymore have any gravitas
don lemon lol
christiane amanpour lol (tranny)
anderson i like it ruff cooper lol
the npr face-for-radio bimbos lol
lester porn stache holt lol
dweeby nutless george “luvin my fat wife” will lol
oh
and poor saddy sadcakes charles krauthammer lol
these people all write their own punchlines
and yeah that didn’t hurt mr. the donald nope not a bit
but it didn’t hurt JEB! either did it no it didn’t
pickle-poo lost on his on “merits”
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:05 pmmuh muh muh muh muh muh muh muh
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:08 pmmelania!
ur breaking my heart
ur shakin my confidence daily 🙂
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:09 pmThe republicans have failed at finding the popular candidate, for the last time.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:09 pmoopers pickle-poo lost on his *own* “merits” i mean
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:10 pmHISTORY: “On the evening of July 18, 1969, Mary Jo Kopechne died while trying to free herself from Edward M. Kennedy’s submerged automobile in a tidal channel on Chappaquiddick Island.”
Your challenge and mission, should you accept it: keep the criminal grifter Hillary “Ma Cankles” Clinton out of the White House.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:10 pmglub
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:11 pm@86, guilty! I am even guilty of not strapping the suspects down. The horrors I have committed.
Also, Beldar, it is killing me that I may have forgotten the name of your dad’s ship. I know I’ve come across it.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:12 pmSteve-57
Rodeo and helmets.
skiing and helmets.
Biking and helmets
Pussyfication of the once mighty male.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 4:36 pm
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Hey, mg! You get stomped on the head by a bull and then tell me… wut?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:14 pmRick Perry on the speakers list? Oops.
DCSCA (a343d5) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:15 pmI seem to recall that the Republican nominating process was specifically restructured to defeat certain ‘really popular candidates’ early.
Well, when Jeb! tried to push everyone out in late 2015 by locking up all the money men, it was Romney that said “Well, if it’s gonna be like that, I’ll run, because #NotJeb!” And Jeb! backed down. It wasn’t Trump that did Jeb! in, it was Romney.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:15 pmYour challenge and mission, should you accept it: keep the criminal grifter Hillary “Ma Cankles” Clinton out of the White House.
Yes, but why do we have to do it with such an incredible handicap? And what do we get if we win?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:16 pmI wonder what will happen if one of those speakers starts going off on Trump. Will they be dragged off the stage?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:17 pmI liked the pattycake, but the Jr Rodeo takes the cake.
The one kid who knocked his bull down, kind of penned the bull for a THREE count, that kid should win something.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:18 pmMy grandfather taught me to never get kicked in the head by a bull.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:21 pmYeah, well, life just isn’t fair.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:23 pmNPR coverage of the convention is hilarious. The look on these diaper dandies faces is priceless.
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:23 pmMy girlfriend is outraged that NPR keeps deleting her comments. She’s doubly outraged because she used to donate money to them back when she was an Obama voter.
I’m sure she’d enjoy seeing any upset looks on their faces.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:26 pmSteve57 (#126): My dad was on the USS Zeilin (APA-3), a “fast attack transport” whose bridge was crowded with brass because it was the reserve flagship (behind the USS Pennsylvania) for the Commander Amphibious Force, Pacific Fleet. He joined its company in late March 1944.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:27 pmI’m unlikely to watch much of either convention live, but for those who’d like to do so without network talking heads and cut-aways and who also subscribe to DirecTV or AT&T Uverse, they’re broadcasting a direct feed from the conventions.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:32 pmThe greater the challenge, the more glorious the victory. And we get three Supreme Court picks.
Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:33 pmOoh! Good one! Know what I didn’t need growing up? A grandfather to tell me not to get kicked in the head by a bull. Because I knew that.
My family were mostly fishermen. Managed to learn what not to get kicked in the head by. Managed to avoid the oxen.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:33 pm@ Mr. Finkelman (#107): I accept your correction. Trump merely got a $1M fine for breaking other American labor laws using illegal immigrants. As for relative degrees of corruption, I will agree with you that the Clintons use a different approach to theirs: They actually release their tax returns, for example, so both to cheat the government and enable their influence-peddling, they found it expedient to set up the Clinton Foundation. We know Trump also has a bogus foundation, but he won’t release his taxes. He’s hiding more than they are, in that respect. And he routinely hides controversy behind litigation and subsequent “sealing orders” after he buys off whoever he has to pay when he’s been caught or been close to being caught. Even so, he’s followed by scandal after scandal, lawsuit after lawsuit, failed business after failed business — all while insisting that he, personally, is getting richer.
So I repeat, I don’t see any meaningful distinction between them on corruption: They both peg the needle.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:38 pmBeldar, I am very sorry for confusing the name of your dad’s ship.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:39 pmi can’t believe you did that
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:43 pmhttp://ww2troopships.com/ships/z/zeilin/default.htm
Your ship, your dad’s ship, has much to be proud of.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:46 pmSteve-57
mg (31009b) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:46 pmI will never be as smart as my grandfather.
He rode a horse to school through the 8th grade, graduated, raised livestock,harvested grain and was a trapping genius.
I am just an unmentionable that way, Mr. feets. I will try to straighten up and fly right.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:50 pmneither will I, mg.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:51 pmTrump doesn’t care whether the Republicans keep the senate.
Milhouse (5a188d) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:52 pmBut I didn’t need him to to tell me what not to be kicked in the head by. Love my grandad.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 5:53 pmHoly s**t f**k batman you really need your granddad?
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 6:00 pm@ Steve57: Yup, she was a remarkable ship that saw action throughout the war and from the Aleutians throughout the entire south and west Pacific. My dad wasn’t aboard during the Guadalcanal campaign, but he was for the invasions of Guam, Luzon, and Iwo Jima, and he was on the bridge when the Zeilin was struck by a kamikaze in January 1945. I wish now that I had accompanied him to one or more of the Zeilin reunions that were held in the 1980s and 1990s; whatever I thought I had going on that might have seemed more important on those occasions doesn’t seem nearly so important anymore, and I missed an opportunity.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 6:00 pmit’s terrifying the comments on the feed,
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/755200482235322368
narciso (732bc0) — 7/18/2016 @ 6:03 pmI will forever be indebted to the men of the Zeilin.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 6:06 pmhttp://ww2troopships.com/ships/z/zeilin/default.htm
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/18/2016 @ 6:09 pmYes, but why do we have to do it with such an incredible handicap? And what do we get if we win?
Kevin
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Well, Kevin, it appears to be the hand we’ve been dealt. I believe it’s more likely that we will see an improvement in the economy, in the Rule of Law, in domestic and foreign matters, and maybe a few others under a Trump/Pence administration. The alternative is a virtual lock on 4 to 8 more years of fustercluck. I have adult children, one granddaughter and a grandson on the way an they and their fellow Americans deserve much more than a continuation of lawlessness, despair, a world fast spinning out of control, malfeasance, incompetence and a lack of interest – much less the will – to correct our course.
8 years of the fish rotting from the head is more than anyone should have to endure.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/18/2016 @ 6:18 pmRich Galen, Monday July 18, 2016:
http://www.mullings.com/07-18-16.htm
Rush Limbaugh mentioned something today about a plan by Ted Cruz delegates at the Republican National Convention to walk out on Thursday. I’ve been thinking there is a plan to stage a coup in the Texas Republican Party and substitute Ted Cruz’s name on the ballot for taht of Donald Trump. State parties are legally independent entities.
But this will do no good. A third party candidate needs to take some blue states that would otherwise go to Hillary. So there needs to be somebody else there who can carry a states like that.
With different political positions than that of Ted Cruz.
Competing third party candidates (but not in the same state) when only one can make it into the House of Representatives, but if he or she did, has a good shot at becoming president would encourage wqavering voters to vote for the third party candidate in their state if the candidate was a good match for the electorate of that state. People would want that candidate and not ted Cruz to be the person in the House.
Maybe there is even somebody who could carry California besides Hillary Clinton.
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 7/19/2016 @ 12:33 pmCruz is still in the fantasy of thinking that without Trump it would have been him.
He is wrong.
Without Trump it would have been Jeb.
If he refuses to endorse the Repub party candidate his political career will be over. Because everybody likes a traitor, right? “I’m a conservative Republican and so I prefer the Dem candidate instead of the Repub candidate.” Not exactly a career-enhancing move, is it?
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You guys who claim to not know why Trump is so popular with the voters are just being willfully blind.
He said it right up front.
* Build a wall on the southern border.
* Control muslims coming into the country.
Just because these are not important to you, you think they are not important to anybody else. You are wrong.
fred-2 (e4950a) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:30 pmThe reason all your neverTrump whining has gotten nowhere is that these are the MAJOR issues that the Repub voters care about. Arguably the ONLY issues that the majority of Repub voters care about. To them, the issues you bring up are as insignificant as whether or not he has freckles on his butt.
Aaaaaand, now Trump is the official Repub candidate.
What now, neverTrumpers? Must now go over to NRO and see if they’ve come out for Hillary yet. Or maybe tomorrow?
fred-2 (e4950a) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:48 pmHey, you’re the goto extepr. Thanks for hanging out here.
Jacklyn (b8fe78) — 7/25/2016 @ 12:24 pm