Melania Trump Plagiarizes Michelle Obama 2008 Speech
Everything you need to know is in this tweet.
CORRECTION: Melania stole a whole graph from Michelle's speech. #GOPConvention
WATCH: https://t.co/8BCOwXAHSy pic.twitter.com/zudpDznGng— Jarrett Hill (@JarrettHill) July 19, 2016
The quoted language is indeed from a Michelle Obama 2008 speech. Here is the CNN transcript.
Just click the YouTube link in the tweet, and read along as Melania steals, oh, about 80% of the Michelle Obama speech.
It’s a con. The only question here is whether she was in on the con.
UPDATE:
Melania Trump straight plagiarized some of Michelle Obama's speech in 2008 #RNCInCLE pic.twitter.com/MMI7Bmfeb7
— Philip Lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) July 19, 2016
UPDATE x2: “I wrote it with a little help as possible.”
I hate them.
It’s the speechwriter’s fault, you say? OK. Let’s see what happens to the speechwriter. Let’s see how they react to the whole fucking thing.
They’ll claim it’s all manufactured by the media. Nobody will be fired. Nobody will apologize. The real jerks will be the people who noticed the plagiarism and pointed it out.
If I turn out to be wrong about their reaction, I’ll say so. But I won’t be wrong.
Patterico (5c77c6) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:24 pmHate them.
Con. Artists.
Patterico (5c77c6) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:24 pmWell, that is unfortunate.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:39 pmIt’s all over the cablers.
Hilarious. And stupid. And lazy. And incredibly piss-poor management for the Great White Dope’s team.
Just show up and read the script, Eva Gabor, eh? Really unfair to her. But the same thing dogged Biden for decades and all but ended his presidential run in the ’80s.
Come on, Donald, grow a pair, be a manager, redeen your wife and use your line: “You’re fired.”
I did.
Back in the mid-80’s, I once caught a freelance writer who submitted a piece to me for publication at CBS that I knew was plagiarized as I had the book it came from in my desk. Showed him the piece he lifted it from, word for word, turns out he’d subcontracted it to somebody else and was going to split the fee, unbeknownst to me. Reported them to my boss, nailed their asses and blackballed them from any more work at the network. A $500 job cost them thousands in the long run.
DCSCA (a343d5) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:43 pmClown car campaign.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:44 pmHopefully, President Hillary will solicit Attorney General Lynch to prosecute Melania for plagiarism. Although, she may be able to claim the lack of “intent” defense, punctuated by admitting to be “extremely careless.”
Anyhow, the Titanic is sinking, so let’s continue to rearrange those deck chairs!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:45 pmWe’ll see how they react. I feel confident I know how they will react.
Patterico (5c77c6) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:45 pmLast time Mrs. Trump was in the news, Trump blamed Ted Cruz.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:46 pmThey say she was working on this speech for weeks, too.
Maybe she saw gold in Michelle’s speech and dug it. Once a golddigger, always a golddigger.
DCSCA (a343d5) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:48 pmI ain’t sayin’ she’s a gold…digger…
(I begged him to go with the radio edit. BEGGED him.)
Patterico (5c77c6) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:51 pmPlagiarism isn’t a crime. It’s just a really bad idea to do it to the current first lady, just 8 years later, when lots of people can remember the original.
Milhouse (5a188d) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:54 pmUPDATE:
Patterico (5c77c6) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:56 pmOMG. NBC NEWS reporting Melania tells Matt Lauer in taped interview for Tuesday Today show from plane this evening before she gave it, she wrote the speech herself “with as little help as possible.”
DCSCA (a343d5) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:56 pmShe has a degree in architecture and speaks four languages, too. Not.
nk (dbc370) — 7/18/2016 @ 9:58 pmMelania’s excuse? : “I no speeka de Enguish well. Vhat is dis plagiarism? I had all my shots, no?”
DCSCA (a343d5) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:02 pmI don’t believe Mrs. Trump wrote that part of the speech, no more than I believe that Joe Biden wrote his “Why is it that Joe Biden is the first” speech that was similarly, umm, similar (which is to say, practically identical) to a speech made by British Labour politician Neil Kinnock in 1984.
I don’t really care about the plagiarism. It’s the sheer incompetency that annoys me. The person responsible is the guy at the top, regardless of who fed this stuff into the teleprompter for Mrs. Trump to read.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:11 pm#11 Milhouse,
Plagiarism may not be a crime, but being humorless is a crime.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:11 pmTo correct something: Biden stole Kinnock’s speech in 1987, early in the 1988 presidential election cycle. It was the “disgrace” that knocked him out of the presidential race that year. That was back when Democrats weren’t completely shameless.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:14 pm@16. It’s petty. It’s theft. It’s unprofessional. It’s unethical. It’s lazy-azzed… and it reveals character:
DCSCA (a343d5) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:20 pm“New York, New York, a helluva town;
the Bronx is up and the Battery is down;
the people ride in a hole in the ground;
New York New Yorkkkk, it’s a helluva town.”
Nuthink on teh Drudge…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:21 pmAt least Trump isn’t stealing Barry’s speeches.
AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:22 pm‘She wrote the speech herself “with as little help as possible.” ‘
and?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:22 pmUPDATE x2: “I wrote it with a little help as possible.”
Patterico (5c77c6) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:23 pmYou are surprised, any of you?
This is all a put up job to get HRC elected.
It’s all reality television now, and we are reduced to this:
https://snarkypenguin.wordpress.com/2016/03/16/our-slogan-for-the-fall-will-be-vote-for-the-crook-its-important/
And every single time Trump’s people act like idiots, it reinforces that.
Remember how awful the other candidates were to you?
Great job, folks.
Simon Jester (5b2a82) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:23 pmoh no, she’ll have to step down as wife, shirley you can’t be serious, they are two different speeches in two different contexts,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:24 pmWell… so she belongs in prison? Hillary Clinton belongs in prison. Melania belongs in a fur coat wearing pearls and a sweet smile…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:25 pmwell the wrong lizard may get in, simon, there’s also ben bova’s multiple man, but that’s probably too obscure a reference,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:26 pmSo not only is the candidate a fucking moron, but the people managing his campaign are fucking morons too? Wonderful.
JVW (eabb2a) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:29 pmNot to me, narciso, my SF-knowing pal.
Simon Jester (5b2a82) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:31 pmwell maybe he used the toynbee convector, au revoir till tomorrow,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:37 pm“Animal behaviorist Dr. Kale Crumlin didn’t know how close he was to the truth when a few months ago he first shared his observations with a small circle of colleagues in a paper titled, “The Behavior and Habits of Hillary Clinton,” in which he compared the former First Lady to the dominant female in a clan of spotted hyenas, also known as laughing hyenas.
“The cackle, the facial expressions, and the predisposition to dominate males were the first behavioral clues,” wrote Dr. Crumlin, referring to a known scientific fact that spotted hyena society is matriarchal; females are larger.”
http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/dna-test-traces-origins-of-hillary-cackle-to-hyena-ancestors-t17957.html
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:39 pmMay have to peddle outrage elsewhere. All full up here…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:41 pmhe’s also ****ing a moron.
Milhouse (5a188d) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:42 pmWLS did a fisk of Michelle Obama’s original.
Isn’t that interesting that the original sounded so out of character for MO that WLS compared it to a Laura Bush speech
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:45 pmThe problem with the speech Biden copied from Kinnock was not that it was copied, but that it wasn’t true. If Biden’s family background had actually been similar to Kinnock’s then it would have been ethical for him to copy Kinnock’s words about it (though probably still not a good idea). But it wasn’t. When he applied Kinnock’s words to his own family he was lying. And that was his real offense.
Milhouse (5a188d) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:45 pmIf there’s a big enough stink Michelle might be goaded into making a claim on that “my word is my bond” and “hardwork got me here” claptrap.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/18/2016 @ 10:53 pmObviously, we do not know whether Mrs. trump was in on this or simply a pawn. However, what is stunning to me is that the plagiarized portion is really no great shakes. Any of us could have written something equally as imploring, endearing, and sentimentally appealing to supporters. It’s not a speech with which you’re trying to win over Democrats or Independentd or Never Trump voters, but it’s a speech to your base. Why in God’s name the need to lift it? Does the campaign have no professionals among them.
Further, it makes everyone who was on stage giving their support to Trump, look like chumps. It doesn’t matter that they were unaware. That they threw their weight behind him is enough.
Dana (995455) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:12 pmSomeone as pretty as Melania? I would gladly sit in her orbit and listen as she read the dictionary.
I wish she had on that stage last night.
There’s just gotsta be an unseen hand at work in our country and world. There is no other plausible explanation.
Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:22 pmSomeone has to get fired over this, very swiftly and very publicly. Otherwise, Trump is toast. If he was n on it, what a perfectly lousy thing to do to one’s wife.
Dan (995455) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:41 pmOne way or another, sadly, DT needs civil unrest in Cleveland to distract from this debacle. Are the lefties smart enough to let this dumpster fire burn without trying to light another?
Does DT have it in him to start a “false flag” operation in the streets?
Ain’t it great that this is the kind of thinking our polity now invites?
Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:45 pmThere is a possibility, however remote, that she was sabotaged by Never Trumpers. I’m not saying that’s likely, but since we don’t know what happened, it’s a good idea to not jump to conclusions.
It will be really interesting to find out if she did this on her own. It seems unlikely she would have done it on purpose, but she may have watched first lady speeches and did it without intending to. When I’ve taken college English classes, they’ve warned us about unintentionally incorporating material this way, based on heavy research before writing a particular assignment. It can happen.
Likewise, it could have happened that way for her speechwriter(s), but terribly unprofessional of them if so.
This will be a headline tomorrow and that sucks. It is what it is.
It seems hard to imagine that speechwriters or Mrs. Trump would have done this intentionally with the world watching them. If so, well, they deserve the criticism they will get. But let’s not jump to a firm conclusion yet.
We can do that in a day or too when more facts are known.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:46 pmThe GOP candidate and his staff are like the college kids who think they can relax the whole semester, never attend class or open the textbook, and then magically ace the final exam.
The Democrat candidate and her staff are like the college kids who think they can just cheat on the final exam and get away with it.
God, I hate this whole Presidential election year!
JVW (eabb2a) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:52 pmI don’t even care. Blah blah blah…blah blah blah…in my book.
Both in 2008 and 2016.
In fact, I find some balls and respectability to plagiarizing political speeches. Seems to add credibility to this election year.
Dejectedhead (d243ce) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:53 pmIn fact, I find some balls and respectability to plagiarizing political speeches. Seems to add credibility to this election year.
“This pile of shit is so deep that there just has to be a pony buried underneath!” huh Dejectedhead?
JVW (eabb2a) — 7/18/2016 @ 11:57 pmIlana Mercer, a Paleolibertarian and Trump supporter, says that, in her new book, she warned about Trump’s poor speech writers.
I’ll say.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/19/2016 @ 12:01 am#44. You guys are living in a world that you think is filled with order.
It’s all bullshit. It was all a pile of turds to begin with. You think the speech from Michelle Obama was original? Please. You might as well shit in someone’s mouth and tell them it’s raining.
Dejectedhead (d243ce) — 7/19/2016 @ 12:03 amDidn’t notice I was stuck in moderation. Guess I have a potty mouth. This is what I wrote.
#44. You guys are living in a world that you think is filled with order.
It’s all bull$hit. It was all a pile of turds to begin with. You think the speech from Michelle Obama was original? Please. You might as well $hit in someone’s mouth and tell them it’s raining.
Dejectedhead (d243ce) — 7/19/2016 @ 12:23 amI can not afford this.
It should go to a nice home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbBGWR4VL58
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Storm_(P233)
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/19/2016 @ 1:03 amAlthough, Bulgaria.
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Steve57 (193d96) — 7/19/2016 @ 1:27 amYeah I can’t see why that was moderated.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/19/2016 @ 1:30 amHow can this shit not bother more people?
Trump’s suckers really do feel they’re in too deep, apparently
Somebody said this election is a character test- and Americans are failing badly
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Steve57 (193d96) — 7/19/2016 @ 1:44 amI will be amused when we find out that Michelle lifted that from someone else.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:02 amOh, wait, we won’t.
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Steve57 (193d96) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:26 am1 and half k.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:29 amI can never get away with cuss words.
mg (31009b) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:37 amGo moderate yourselves, you self appointed Gods.
The republican party is made up of traitorous losers. gfy
mg (31009b) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:41 amTypical republicans – beating up a woman.
mg (31009b) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:46 amGarlic fixes everything.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:49 amJust harvested 60 bulbs.
mg (31009b) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:53 amConservatives have no problem with a democrat women in the white house.
That useless biotch laura boosh is a fricking loser democrat. you people suck.
You are so pleasant
http://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/log-building-tools-adzes-broad-axes.aspx
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/19/2016 @ 3:00 ameff you, prick.
mg (31009b) — 7/19/2016 @ 3:02 amOne Trump delegate likened the ragtag Never Trump forces, many of them hungry and barefoot from their fruitless pursuit of faithless delegates, to the Japanese stragglers in the South Pacific jungles who held their hopes close for decades after all the armies had gone home.
mg (31009b) — 7/19/2016 @ 3:32 amlmmfao
I can live with that.
Steve57 (193d96) — 7/19/2016 @ 3:47 amIt’s still going to be either Trump or Clinton sworn in January.
cedarhill (1a7ee7) — 7/19/2016 @ 4:26 amMelania! Her speech was so good I’m glad she made a good speech. Food stamp’s bim is just jealous I think cause she’s not gonna be “first lady” anymore she just gonna be a stupid pooty-toot.
But Melania will be a good first lady, classy and sweet and not an angry wretched cow like M’chelle.
Today was a good day.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/19/2016 @ 4:52 amI doubt she understood what she was reading*. The longer words, anyway. Like “raised”, “values”, “dignity”, “respect”. Her vocabulary is probably limited to “Breathe in, breathe out. Breathe in, breathe out, ….”; “Ooh, shiny!”; “One hundred Euros plus fifty for the room”; things like that.
*If she was actually reading and not lip syncing while someone backstage was actually reading it. I saw that in a movie once, I think it had Gene Kelly in it.
nk (dbc370) — 7/19/2016 @ 5:04 amAny way you slice it, the next White House will be the most classless in history. Trash electing trash. Nietzsche vindicated.
nk (dbc370) — 7/19/2016 @ 5:09 amThe butt hurt is strong with the anti trump forces today. ‘Let’s make fun of her accent’ ‘she doesn’t look like one of us’ …. cue in Cyndi Lauper’s ‘True colors’ tune that reminds us the GOP is better off without them.
Sure glad all those people dropped out of the GOP to stand up their own party or country….If Cruz can’t beat someone as bad as Trump is portrayed do we really want him in charge of the country?
How hard will it be to swallow a Cruz endorsement of Trump? Will he then be a traitor and ‘dead to you’?
spokanebob (1aaf2a) — 7/19/2016 @ 5:53 amSounds more boilerplate than plagiarism. Hate to break it to you, but this will change precisely zero votes and will interest nobody outside the media.
Boris (bc52ec) — 7/19/2016 @ 6:09 amIf she did she should own up to it. I doubt that Michelle actually wrote most of her speech in 2008. She may not have written any of it.
Gerald A (945582) — 7/19/2016 @ 6:11 amEvery little thing is gonna be all right.
JP (bd5dd9) — 7/19/2016 @ 6:19 am–JP, genius of an idiot and big-time original thinker
“Does the campaign have no professionals among them.”
Dana,
Real pros cost money. Paying for them would cut into the glitter and facade maintenance budget. Given the cracks and peeling apparent all over the facade, pros are simply unaffordable.
Rick Ballard (04482a) — 7/19/2016 @ 6:29 am#18 Beldar:”That was back when Democrats weren’t completely shameless.”
gbear (defc54) — 7/19/2016 @ 6:29 amThe democrats have been shameless since at least July 18, 1969 when Teddy killed Mary Jo.
Anybody think anyone is going to fly-speck the Democrat speeches? Is Bubba busy redrafting his first lady speech? I wholeheartedly agree with our host about who and what The Trumps are but can’t get excited about universal sentiments expressed by every first lady wannabe I can remember no matter how sloppy the editing was.
Breaking the grip of the ruling class Democrats and Republican co-conspirators on Washington is the objective. We can disagree about how to do it, but we have to do it.
crazy (fcf2fd) — 7/19/2016 @ 6:41 amThe dead have been voting for Democrats well before that.
Gerald A (945582) — 7/19/2016 @ 6:42 amDenver Guy, sabotage by Never Trumpers? You are a loon. Quit smoking Colfax gold.
SPQR (a3a747) — 7/19/2016 @ 6:44 am“UH-OH: WAS PART OF MELANIA TRUMP’S SPEECH PLAGIARIZED FROM… MICHELLE OBAMA?
If I was Trump I’d fire the speechwriter(s) involved and absolutely go on the “how dare you attack my wife” offensive when dealing with the media storm, ala George H.W. Bush pushing back against Dan Rather in 1998. As in ’88, Trump’s base will absolutely love it, and hopefully the media will be so incensed at the Donald, they’ll quickly forget this minor not-ready-for-primetime gaffe.
Related: Like jazz musicians in an after-hour jam sessions, what’s wrong with friends trading the same riffs back and forth? Matt Drudge notes that Obama “borrowed” his “words, just words” leitmotif near word for word from Deval Patrick.”
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/239051/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/19/2016 @ 6:50 amhttp://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/19/melania-trump-plagiarism-hillary-biden-barack-michelle/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:17 amNow that everyone is suitably outraged… Teh Hildebeast lumbers closer to the throne…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:21 amWhat we clearly see, is they are so (redacted) that neither deist it tiegen or Giuliani or pat smith or Karen Vaughan or David Clarke’s remarks matter to them.
narciso (732bc0) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:27 amIt is a troubling piffle.
Troubling because is shows that Trump does not understand that as a R candidate, he is under the microscope and everything relating to him will be attacked. Hillary is a felon, who deserves to be incarcerated, but all media left and right are going to be pointing and laughing at the Trump train-wreck, while ignoring the Criminal.
This election is bread vs. circuses.
The Socialist Hillary promising everyone a free lunch, and the Anointed Trump promising a clown show.
What fun.
Steve Malynn (4bc33a) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:29 amFuture generations will ask us what we did in 2016 to affect the presidential race.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:31 amSome of us will be able to say we stopped Melania!
I read on the news today, oh boy ….
nk (dbc370) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:32 amMilo Yiannpoulos was also on the stage.
He promised to deliver the gay vote to Trump.
And I had to laugh and laugh and laugh.
Sweet Jaysus, deliver us from weezils!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:35 amThey think too highly of themselves cs.
narciso (732bc0) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:36 amDenver Guy is the perfect caricature of a Trump fan.
Let’s buy some Trump University classes together everyone as Trump cons this great country into electing the woman he claims to oppose, yet donated to.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:37 am#18 Beldar:”That was back when Democrats weren’t completely shameless.”
“Tell us, Grandpa, what did you do in the war!”
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:37 am@79. Exactly right. Everyone who listened to Melania and thought “gee, that sounds familiar” good catch. Everybody else who had to be pointed to the similarities – wake up. No matter how sophisticated you think you are you’re being manipulated by the social media firestorm fed by the visible hand of our liberal-progressive overlords. Trump is a risk. Hillary is a certainty.
crazy (fcf2fd) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:38 amY’all really need to check out my post from this morning on how Melania’s speechwriter rick-rolled the convention.
The campaign has a mole.
Patterico (5c77c6) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:39 amPeople who cling to this TU tripe are disturbed. I see your firecracker and I’ll raise you an M-80…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:39 amAnd boy, did Patterico call it. Total denial. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/melania-trump-michelle-obama-speech/
“It was not plagiarism, it may have been platitudinous. And Mrs. Trump does not know the meaning of either word, you misogynistic xenophobes.”
nk (dbc370) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:40 amI read that this morning. Absolutely pathetic. Desperate, even.
Patterico (5c77c6) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:40 amnk,
In my new post I fully detail the extent of the campaign’s Baghdad Bob denial of this, even as the speechwriter’s rick-rolling reference makes it crystal clear that they have a mole.
Patterico (5c77c6) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:41 amYeah, Trump sure has some high ground to stand on, given how he only attacks wives on the more legitimate grounds of being too ugly. Compared to that, criticizing Trump’s version of Monica Lewinksi for, (SHOCK) being dishonest to the GOP convention sure seems out of bounds. Let’s see how many partisan hacks pretend to believe that. Already got one.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:42 amJust saw it, Patterico. I got tangled in a couple of threads and did not refresh the main page.
nk (dbc370) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:44 amOh you going all zapruder, well seeing as the war on cops has moved to columbus, by all means.
narciso (732bc0) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:45 amIf you are referring to the glass-in-sandwich, maybe it was a version of the worst coffee ever served to Harry Callahan from Sudden Impact. If it was malicious, let officer and buddies pull off a Palatine Ok Brown’s Chicken massacre.
urbanleftbehind (c3af4f) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:50 amPalatine, Illinois, February 1993.
urbanleftbehind (c3af4f) — 7/19/2016 @ 7:51 am“They’ll claim it’s all manufactured by the media. Nobody will be fired. Nobody will apologize. The real jerks will be the people who noticed the plagiarism and pointed it out.”
I’M GOING TO PREDICT THE MOST SENSIBLE COURSE OF ACTION FOR DEALING WITH A TRIFLE AS EVIDENCE THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS DOOMED, DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED, I TELL YOU!
“In my new post I fully detail the extent of the campaign’s Baghdad Bob denial of this, even as the speechwriter’s rick-rolling reference makes it crystal clear that they have a mole.”
A ‘mole’ is the least of that campaign’s concerns…
….what you have to think about is the possibility that the Trump campaign might have…
….wait for it…
…A TROLL!!!
A TROLL IN THE CAMPAIGN!
A MASTER OF ‘INTERNET MEMES’ AND ‘FALSE FLAGS’ AND ‘RED HERRINGS’, A DIRE MANIPULATOR OF THE MEDIA’S EMOTIONS, A SCANDALOUS MASTER OF USING FAKE NEWS AND OBVIOUS RHETORICAL TRICKS TO MAKE HIS ENEMIES LOOK PETTY!
WHY, IF ONE OF THOSE SCOUNDRELS WAS ABLE TO MAKE ‘NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP OR LET YOU DOWN’ SOUND SINCERE AND WELCOMING, WHO KNOWS WHAT NEFARIOUS TRICKS HE MIGHT GET UP TO NEXT?
Dystopia Max (76803a) — 7/19/2016 @ 10:01 amhonestly, I don’t know how they still have air in their lungs, with all the hyperventilating,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/19/2016 @ 10:04 amThey have enough air for insincere mumbling, at least:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/288257-chris-matthews-gop-ruined-evening-by-having-that-woman-speak-on
Dystopia Max (76803a) — 7/19/2016 @ 10:27 am@ gbear (#73): Oh, I’d agree the Kennedys were — are — shameless. They were the Clintons’ role-model. You can find individual and influential shameless Democrats going back way before the Kennedys, though, going back all the way to Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson.
But even in 1988, there were still enough principled Democrats — Democrats who thought Biden’s plagiarism (especially given his near-expulsion from law school for the same sin in the past) was a big deal — to instantly derail his presidential campaign. Obviously he continued to be re-elected to the Senate; by 2008 he was arguably the most experienced Democrat in the primary; and obviously he hung around long enough to become Obama’s impeachment insurance (because Joe Biden really is dumb as a post).
But in today’s Democratic Party their nominee can literally give away the nation’s secrets to our enemies, without either her or her supporters having to much as the decency to blush about it. That was not true in 1988.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/19/2016 @ 11:26 amThis is so. It indicates a tremendous, dangerous decline in the country. It’s got to stop.
Denver Guy (21d3a4) — 7/19/2016 @ 11:27 amCan’t Melania claim the parody exception?
All the #neverTrump people call Trump’s campaign a joke.
Pinandpuller (d73e05) — 7/19/2016 @ 12:40 pmmg @62
To me the #neverTrump people are like Sir Alec Guinness from “The Bridge on the River Kwai”.
In their minds they are building a proper bridge, on principle, with no concern as to whether they are aiding the enemy.
Major Clipton: The fact is, what we’re doing could be construed as…collaboration with the enemy. Perhaps even as treasonable activity. Must we work so well? Must we build them a better bridge than they could have built for themselves?
Colonel Nicholson: If you had to operate on Saito, would you do your job or let him die?…Would you have it be said that our chaps can’t do a better job? You’re a fine doctor, Clipton, but you’ve a lot to learn about the army.
Colonel Nicholson: One day the war will be over. And I hope that the people who use who use this bridge in years to come will remember how it was built and who built it. Not a gang of slaves, but soldiers, British soldiers, Clipton, even in captivity.
Colonel Saito: Do not speak to me of rules. This is war! This is not a game of cricket!
Pinandpuller (d73e05) — 7/19/2016 @ 1:38 pmAs I posted on the other thread:
I have read elsewhere that both speeches are based on a list of “Habits of Highly Effective People” by someone named Covey, and that both speeches use the same or similar language, and the same points, in the same order, as Covey.
So basically both speeches cribbed from the same source material, and that is why they are so similar.
gahrie (12cc0f) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:09 pmThis has the text of many speeches delivered the first day of the Republican National Convention, but not taht of Melania Trump or Mike Flynn:
http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2016/7/18/rnc_read_the_day_1_s.html
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:24 pmAh, the fallacy that attracting votes is somehow related to the qualities needed to govern. That elections are actually a sort of ordeal meant to test for that ability, and thus whoever wins has thereby demonstrated his fitness.
Milhouse (5a188d) — 7/19/2016 @ 2:38 pmThank goodness the anti-Trump people showing us why trump is bad and they are the smart ones. They’re debating key issues–like her speech! Not wasting time on Iran, ISIS, Debt or military readiness.
Yes, the anti-Trump GOP “pros” buy into media frenzies about non-issues, as docilely as they debated the fine points of Seamus on Mitt’s car.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (5e0a82) — 7/19/2016 @ 6:59 pmAnd when did Trump say anything intelligent on Iran, ISIS, Debt or military readiness? Or substantive even? It’s all bombast, wind and glitz.
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Addison Parker (5a4e19) — 8/13/2016 @ 4:05 am