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7/15/2016

French Prime Minister Resigned To Living With Terrorism

Filed under: General — Dana @ 10:40 am



[guest post by Dana]

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls has raised the ire of the French citizenry with this dreadful assertion made on the heels of yesterday’s horrific terror attack that left 84 dead:

“Times have changed, and France is going to have to live with terrorism, and we must face this together and show our collective sang-froid,” he said. “France is a great country and a great democracy and we will not allow ourselves to be destabilized.”

Reactions from the public to his surrender-monkey resignation comments ran along a similar vein:

The government is “unable to protect French people,” @DamienLcc wrote on Twitter, while @lazgougeon added that the nation doesn’t have “to get used to the incompetence of our leaders!”

“What? More people should be killed to wake you up, fool!” @MathiasLiurno added.

“You don’t have any shame?” “It gave me chills.” “The sword of Damocles over our heads”

This comment succinctly expresses the unfortunate truth of the matter:

What did they think was going to happen? What do they think the government is going to do to stop terrorism? There’s absolutely nothing they can do because this is the path they’ve decided to take and leftists around the world are now the parties of death. The leftists will howl and scream if there’s any idea of strong borders or deportation. They’d rather die than be called xenophobes or racists.

Clearly, although the comment was made in response to yesterday’s attack, it isn’t just applicable to France. Which reminds me, President Obama is expected to talk about the events in Nice later today.

–Dana

53 Responses to “French Prime Minister Resigned To Living With Terrorism”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (995455)

  2. French President is willing to live with $11,000/month haircuts. The sacrifices the current French leadership are willing to endure for their people is incredible!

    But times are changing.

    Denver Guy (21d3a4)

  3. Frexit.

    Dana (995455)

  4. This is excellent, thoroughly worth reading:

    Why the terrorists are winning the intelligence war: Spengler
    by David P. Goldman

    Yet another criminal known to security services has perpetrated a mass killing, the Tunisian Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel. Why did the French police allow a foreign national with a criminal record of violence to reside in France? Apart from utter incompetence, the explanation is that he was a snitch for the French authorities. Blackmailing Muslim criminals to inform on prospective terrorists is the principal activity of European counter-terrorism agencies, as I noted in 2015. Every Muslim in Europe knows this.

    The terrorists, though, have succeeded in turning the police agents sent to spy on them and forcing them to commit suicide attacks to expiate their sins. This has become depressingly familiar; as Ryan Gallagher reported recently, perpetrators already known to the authorities committed ten of the highest-profile attacks between 2013 and 2015.

    The terrorists, in other words, are adding insult to injury. By deploying police snitches as suicide attackers, terrorists assert their moral superiority and power over western governments. The message may be lost on the western public, whose security agencies and media do their best to obscure it, but it is well understood among the core constituencies of the terrorist groups: the superiority of Islam turns around the depraved criminals whom the western police send to spy on us, and persuades them to become martyrs for the cause of Islam.

    The piece then goes on to provide a solution, drawing upon U.S. military history.

    Denver Guy (21d3a4)

  5. 2. ….and the speech was very good as well, but given my “look” I’d probably be tackled before making an approach (and I’m 1/8 French thanks to the hijinks of Louis Napoleon and Maximilian).

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  6. Cheese-eating surrender manque… there, I’ve said it.

    Colonel Haiku (0490b7)

  7. sounds to me like the french prime minister is a suck-ass coward

    i’m a need a minute to process this

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. French Prime Minister Resigned To Living With Terrorism

    French Prime Minister Resigned with having French Citizens being killed by Muslim Terrorists.

    There, FIFY

    Jack (e5af45)

  9. But, this does not change hillary’s intention to import 1,000,000 more muslims if she wins election. They don’t have to invade if we import them.

    Jim (a9b7c7)

  10. Continuing:

    The way to win the war is to frighten the larger community of Muslims who passively support terror by action or inaction–frighten them so badly that they will inform on family members. Frightening the larger Muslim population in the West does not require a great deal of effort: a few thousand deportations would do. Western intelligence services do not even have to deport the right people; the wrong people know who they are, and so do many of their neighbors. The ensuing conversation is an easy one to have. “I understand that your nephew is due for deportation, Hussein, and I believe you when you tell me that he has done nothing wrong. I might be able to help you. But you have to help me. Give me something I can use–and don’t waste my time by making things up, or I swear that I’ll deport you, too. If you don’t have any information, then find out who does.”

    This approach to quashing insurgency has worked numerous times in the past. It is not characteristic of peacetime life in western democracies, to be sure, but neither was Phil Sheridan’s ride through the Shenandoah. We prefer to think about winning hearts and minds. Winning the hearts and minds of a people, though, isn’t difficult once they fear you.

    Denver Guy (21d3a4)

  11. I suspect that if there were a wave of assassinations, the politicians would not same show the same sang-froid.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  12. “Times have changed…

    No, the religion of your countrymen has changed.

    This is very surprising coming from him. He has been accused of being too strong on terrorism in the past, because he is married to a Jewish woman.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  13. French Prime Minister Resigned To Living With Terrorism

    French Prime Minister Resigned To Living With Much More Personal Security.

    FIFY another way.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  14. the netflix series marseilles shows how the ump and the socialists, pay the caid, to have the street gangs do the voter outreach in places like marseilles and nice, against the french party, what they call the national front,the envoice scandal that enveloped sarkozy was all about that,

    narciso (732bc0)

  15. A civilized nation doesn’t live with terrorism — it dies with terrorism.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  16. A good guy with a truck can stop a bad guy with a truck. NRA

    n.r.a. (fcc945)

  17. Marseilles has been effed up since the French Connection

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  18. it’s a very trashy series with gerard depardieu

    narciso (732bc0)

  19. The Good and the bad of this story:

    Nice France Attack Stopped By Hero Who Jumped Into Lorry to Fight Terrorist |RedState http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/07/15/father-11-year-old-son-texas-celebrating-birthday-among-killed-terror-attack-nice/

    MSNBC’s ‘Truck Crash’ Description of Deadly Nice Attack Sparks Brutal #MSNBCHeadlines Mockeryhttp://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07/15/msnbcs-truck-crash-description-of-deadly-nice-attack-sparks-brutal-msnbcheadlines-mockery/

    Torcer (654698)

  20. Now Turkey is in a coup. (pronounced coop by Obama)

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  21. “YOU STAY CLASSY, BRIAN: “MSNBC’s breaking news anchor Brian Williams has had quite the few weeks with deplorable and head-scratching moments, but he again couldn’t help himself on Thursday night while covering the terrorist truck attack in Nice, France by apologizing to Hardball host Chris Matthews for having ‘just plowed over the normal hour of airtime’ for him.”

    I think Ron Burgundy, Ted Baxter and even a semi-fictional anchorman like Dan Rather were capable of smarter metaphors than that.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/238762/

    Colonel Haiku (7d48bb)

  22. Now Turkey is in a coup.

    Sweet.

    Denver Guy (21d3a4)

  23. Now Turkey is in a coup.

    Sweet.

    Denver Guy (21d3a4)

  24. Double post not intended, but certainly is sweet. Godspeed, Turkish military.

    Denver Guy (21d3a4)

  25. News alert
    Part, but not all of the Turkish military is attempting a coup. Situation is very fluid, it seems, with the civilian government resisting
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara

    Selected the link simply because it is the most recently updated.

    kishnevi (07cb64)

  26. I see Rev H has beaten me to the punch.

    kishnevi (07cb64)

  27. Cruz Supporter @15 – I can’t think of a nation that died because of foreign terrorism. What’s your basis for your assertion?

    Jonny Scrum-half (bf5dc4)

  28. Why can’t we be adults and admit that it’s very hard to stamp out terrorism completely, and impossible to do so in a very short time frame? For some reason conservatives seem to think that a ground war is the answer, but I don’t see it unless the military action will involve wholesale killings and mass destruction like in WW2. I don’t think that’s either helpful or warranted.

    Instead, I think the Imams pushing the terror have to die, which I understand means targeted assassinations. A full propaganda effort to build up mainstream Islam as opposed to radical Islam probably would be helpful as well.

    Finally, we need to do something about Saudi Arabia, which is the source of so much of this jihadism. I don’t know what that means, but we should figure it out.

    Jonny Scrum-half (bf5dc4)

  29. The way you defeat terrorists is by convincing them they can do something without risk that they can’t. Of course, the terrorists are far better at intelligence.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  30. Ah yes… a new book idea.

    “Living With Terrorism For Dummies”

    Pts (ce7fc3)

  31. “Why can’t we be adults and admit that it’s very hard to stamp out terrorism completely, and impossible to do so in a very short time frame? For some reason conservatives seem to think that a ground war is the answer ….”

    Border control, immigration policy, deportations, and self-deportations are the answers.

    Denver Guy (21d3a4)

  32. Denver Guy @ 31 – I’m all for enforcing immigration laws, but to me that means fining the employers (including countless Trump-supporting contractors) who hire people who aren’t lawfully permitted to work. Self-deportation would take care of a large part of the problem, leaving the rest much more manageable.

    Jonny Scrum-half (bf5dc4)

  33. Greetings:

    Prime Minister resigned but unresigned.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  34. President Obama condemns road rage incident. Urges American’s to practice defensive driving.
    Announces a new Share The Road program.

    Just guessing on the future update.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  35. And here I was hoping it was “French prime minister resigned”.

    The Gentle Grizzly (11fea2)

  36. look he’s the closest thing to a hardliner, he’s not of the elite enarque, this about as aggressive as they will allow in the socialist party,

    narciso (732bc0)

  37. http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/terrorwar/islam_this_is_what_it_loo.php

    “I see an intersection between two concepts.

    1. The collective responsibility has been murdered in the West. Leftoids of all types killed that, lest they be responsible for all the killing fields and camps and gulags and Lubyanka’s of all the world.

    Once upon a time, we firebombed Dresden and Tokyo, and nuked Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Every citizen of the Axis bore responsibility for WWII, and we were not squeamish about bringing the reckoning.

    For far too long, the leftoids like vermin have bred among us, claiming their religion of utopia and new Soviet men and beautiful perfect omelettes is a religion of peace. Since their goals are perfect and true, they bear no responsibility for the egg-breaking. In fact, the whole lot of the 20th century monsters are forgiven their sins, because their goals were perfect.

    2. Every Islamic attack that is not answered by a disproportionate reprisal, is an Islamic victory. And the Islamics proceed from victory to victory. “Hah! One of ours killed 80+ of yours. We can keep this up all day long, and there will be more and more every day. Victory begets victories!”

    The Islamic attacks will stop when the banlieus in Paris and Nice and Marseilles (and yes, Dearborn and Hamtrack) are pounded with so much artillery and overhead carpet bombing, that the Islamics will know for certain that every attack will diminish them greatly. When every mosque is specifically targeted to leave no stone standing, everything burnt to the ground, the ground salted and flooded with pork offal. And mounded with jagged metal scrap 10 feet high. Turned into a zone of evil pestilence for a hundred years.

    Yes, they bear collective responsibility: men, women, children, grannies, all of them. And yes, there must come a reckoning.

    We have three choices now: run away, give up, or fight. Two of those assure their victory. The last, there are no assurances.”

    ISIS has a strategy. They’re gathering right now in Raqqa by the tens of thousands, hidden in the civilian population, cleaning their weapons and they know exactly why they’re there. They call it the end times. What do you think the beheadings are about? The crucifixions of Christians, the revival of slavery? Do you think they make this shit up? It’s all in their fucking book. The only book they ever read – they read it all the time. They never stop. They’re there for one reason and one reason only: to die for the Caliphate and usher in a world without infidels. That’s their strategy and it’s been that way since the 7th century. Do do you really think that a few special forces teams are going to put a dent in that?

    Hit reset. Pound Raqqa into a parking lot.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  38. http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/terrorwar/islam_this_is_what_it_loo.php

    “I see an intersection between two concepts.

    1. The collective responsibility has been murdered in the West. Leftoids of all types killed that, lest they be responsible for all the killing fields and camps and gulags and Lubyanka’s of all the world.

    Once upon a time, we firebombed Dresden and Tokyo, and nuked Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Every citizen of the Axis bore responsibility for WWII, and we were not squeamish about bringing the reckoning.

    For far too long, the leftoids like vermin have bred among us, claiming their religion of utopia and new Soviet men and beautiful perfect omelettes is a religion of peace. Since their goals are perfect and true, they bear no responsibility for the egg-breaking. In fact, the whole lot of the 20th century monsters are forgiven their sins, because their goals were perfect.

    2. Every Islamic attack that is not answered by a disproportionate reprisal, is an Islamic victory. And the Islamics proceed from victory to victory. “Hah! One of ours killed 80+ of yours. We can keep this up all day long, and there will be more and more every day. Victory begets victories!”

    The Islamic attacks will stop when the banlieus in Paris and Nice and Marseilles (and yes, Dearborn and Hamtrack) are pounded with so much artillery and overhead carpet bombing, that the Islamics will know for certain that every attack will diminish them greatly. When every mosque is specifically targeted to leave no stone standing, everything burnt to the ground, the ground salted and flooded with pork offal. And mounded with jagged metal scrap 10 feet high. Turned into a zone of evil pestilence for a hundred years.

    Yes, they bear collective responsibility: men, women, children, grannies, all of them. And yes, there must come a reckoning.

    We have three choices now: run away, give up, or fight. Two of those assure their victory. The last, there are no assurances.”

    ISIS has a strategy. They’re gathering right now in Raqqa by the tens of thousands, hidden in the civilian population, cleaning their weapons and they know exactly why they’re there. They call it the end times. What do you think the beheadings are about? The crucifixions of Christians, the revival of slavery? Do you think they make this shit up? It’s all in their fu*king book. The only book they ever read – they read it all the time. They never stop. They’re there for one reason and one reason only: to die for the Caliphate and usher in a world without infidels. That’s their strategy and it’s been that way since the 7th century. Do do you really think that a few special forces teams are going to put a dent in that?

    Hit reset. Pound Raqqa into a parking lot.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  39. Frexit.

    Dana (995455) — 7/15/2016 @ 11:18 am

    The French people themselves have to give a damn first.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  40. 36. Who – Hollande or Sarkozy. Which reminds me:
    worst Trump = Sarkozy,
    best Trump = Berlusconi.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  41. Valls, Sarkozy is the gaullist counterpart.

    narciso (732bc0)

  42. A little off-topic, but what the hey …

    For a couple of months, I’ve been getting a daily email from amazon.com. The email is titled “Most Read From The Washington Post,” and it contains, as one might surmise, a link to the most read stories in that day’s edition of the Post.

    The headline on one of today’s stories is “Pakistani model killed after offending conservatives” (see link below). I find it very interesting that the writer (and the Post) emphasizes the fact that the model’s family is religiously “conservative” as opposed to being Muslim. Just as interesting are many of the comments, in which most liberals respond with the familiar refrain that “Christianity is just as bad.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/pakistani-model-killed-after-offending-conservatives/2016/07/16/f4ec76ba-4b28-11e6-8dac-0c6e4accc5b1_story.html?wpisrc=nl_az_most

    Deuce Frehley (73c323)

  43. I put together some odds and ends re thursdays events, I thought allusions first, but put it plainly in context,

    narciso (732bc0)

  44. go along and not get along, mr. primesinster. Let your country suffer.

    mg (31009b)

  45. the previous link, I posted up, shows how big these networks are, in fact a new islamic center opened up two weeks ago, funded by the saudis,

    narciso (732bc0)

  46. lotta love in that family.

    mg (31009b)

  47. urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 7/16/2016 @ 2:00 pm

    worst Trump = Sarkozy,
    best Trump = Berlusconi.

    Shouldn’t it be the other way around?

    worst Trump = Berlusconi
    best Trump = Sarkozy

    Wouldn’ that be more logical?

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  48. re cnn, the fellow mentioned on my blog,

    But after the attack, investigators ascertained that Bouhlel’s phone number had cropped up in a previous counterterrorism investigation, a source close to the investigation told CNN. That investigation focused on a radical associate of Omar Diaby, a 41-year-old Senegalese jihadi who lived in Nice before traveling to Syria.

    narciso (732bc0)

  49. Sarkozy got co-opted rather quickly in re Islamic terrorism. He got into office campaigning against rioting “racaille” but didnt do much to tamp down on the networks and the mosques. Though Berlusconi crashed and burned he was a lot more clear-headed (sans the young Libyan tail) about the threat and how to quash it.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  50. I think the merah hit was the final straw against him, as it turns out it was prologue of what would happen with koachi, abbaoud, abrini, and now bouhiel,

    narciso (732bc0)

  51. France is going to have to live with terrorism

    That was almost exactly paul Krugman’s comments following the Paris attack – except Krugman added that because it was only a “few peoplt that got killed out of millions” it is really no big deal”

    joe (debac0)


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