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7/1/2016

End of Week Presidential Campaign Items

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:51 pm



HILLARY HEADED FOR THE HOT SEAT

The FBI is reportedly about to interview Hillary. Possibly tomorrow.

SMOD 2016!

The Sweet Meteor of Death is almost neck and neck with Trump in this poll among the 18-29 crowd and independents.

NEWTIE SAYS BAH! TO FREE TRADE

Newt Gingrich helped pass NAFTA and has supported free trade for decades. Today he said Trump’s right on trade.

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich, under consideration as Donald Trump’s running mate, is dropping his decades-long support of free trade deals and picking up Trump’s strongly protectionist position.

“I basically agree with Trump’s speech on trade,” Gingrich said in an email to POLITICO on Friday.

At lunch I was telling a colleague I think Gingrich is the VP pick and that it’s been decided for weeks; I hadn’t even seen this story. Now I’m even more convinced Newtie is the guy. As Allahpundit says: Trumpism corrupts.

SARAH PALIN: NEVER TRUMPERS ARE RATS

Sarah Palin says Republicans who don’t support Trump are Republicans Against Trump, or “RATs.” Get it? So come on and join us! I guess is the message. She also said: “You’re either with us or against us!” Guess what, darlin’? There is a third option.

TRUMP IS PRESIDENTIAL AFTER ALL!

Finally: the Donald bought a Tim Tebow-signed helmet for $12 grand with other people’s money, showing his qualifications for the presidency by demonstrating his skill in spending other people’s money in foolish ways. WaPo:

Did Donald Trump violate IRS rules, by using a charity’s money to buy himself a signed football helmet?

Four years ago, at a charity fundraiser in Palm Beach, Donald Trump got into a bidding war at the evening’s live auction. The items up for sale: A Denver Broncos helmet, autographed by then-star quarterback Tim Tebow, and a Tebow jersey.

Trump won, eventually, with a bid of $12,000. Afterward, he posed with the helmet. His purchase made gossip-column news: a flourish of generosity, by a mogul with money to burn. “The Donald giveth, and The Donald payeth,” wrote the Palm Beach Daily News. “Blessed be the name of The Donald.”

But Trump didn’t actually pay with his own money.

Instead, the Susan G. Komen organization — the breast-cancer nonprofit that hosted the party — got a $12,000 payment from another nonprofit, the Donald J. Trump Foundation.

Trump himself sent no money. (In fact, a Komen spokeswoman said, Trump has never given a personal gift of cash to the Komen organization.) He paid the bill with money from a charity he founded in 1987, but which is largely stocked with other people’s money. Trump is the foundation’s president. But, at the time of the auction, Trump had given none of his own money to the foundation for three years running.

The helmet is now worth about 400 bucks. He makes such great deals. He really does. Everybody says so. The deals are so, so great. That I can tell you.

250 Responses to “End of Week Presidential Campaign Items”

  1. Also Loretta talked about her meeting with Bill. She’s totally gonna accept their recommendation. Except, for no good reason I can discern she’s not going to recuse herself.

    Get back, Loretta.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. So I’m really psyched about the 2016 USFL series. How do you think Trump’s New Jersey Generals are going to do?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  3. I do like Tim Tebow better than Doug Flutie, but not as well as Jim Kelly, whom Trump tried to acquire by merging the Generals into the Houston Outlaws. Except the league folded before they took a snap.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  4. It would totally be better if we have a President who takes money from the Saudis.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  5. Doug Flutie was actually a proven QB in the NFL for a number of years. Tebow doesn’t have half the passing ability that Flutie had! Come on!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  6. So the helmet is really only worth $400? Then that means it really was a charitable donation so Trump was using his foundation properly.

    cugel (bf4ad2)

  7. the way tebow was treated was criminal, instead they lavished attention on sanchez, a shallow hack,

    narciso (732bc0)

  8. smod is just teasing, trump is real, it’s in keeping with millenial’s magical thinking.

    narciso (732bc0)

  9. So the helmet is really only worth $400? Then that means it really was a charitable donation so Trump was using his foundation properly.

    Only because Tebow’s star fell almost immediately after Trump’s purchase.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  10. they’ll promote any hack, and dismiss players of real talent, not to mention conviction,
    that was the story of the last two campaigns

    http://nypost.com/2013/01/12/westhoff-bashes-jets-use-of-tebow/

    narciso (732bc0)

  11. let not pretend this meeting was not coordinated from the get go, the end of a string of back and forth communications, designed to absolve red queen of any possible prosecution, that grown men actually believe otherwise, well it doesn’t reflect well on them,

    narciso (732bc0)

  12. I hadn’t even considered this option,

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/07/01/j-christian-adams-on-rush-limbaugh-loretta-lynch-recusing-herself-benefits-hillary/

    because the crazy years are crazy enough, thank you,

    narciso (732bc0)

  13. Yo mama’s waiting for you
    Wearing her blue pantsuit
    And her pearl Beretta
    Get back home Loretta

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  14. Trump haters – Hope your toilet cleaner does not rape your family before he mows your lawn.

    mg (31009b)

  15. Hmm.

    My toilet cleaner, unfortunately, is me, assisted by Lysol. I do pay someone to mow my lawn, and it’s worth every penny; our relationship extends back 12 years now. I’m thinking after this many years, he’s unlikely to rape my family.

    If I were worried about someone raping my family, I’d worry a lot more about a rich guy who got sent to military school as a disciplinary problem before he was out of high school, but even there was famous for buying women’s attention. I’d worry about a guy who’s a self-admitted — indeed, self-bragged — serial adulterer, philanderer, and exploiter of women. I’d worry about a guy who started a whole ‘nuther international beauty pageant for women with obvious boob jobs. I’d worry about a guy who is pals with Bill Clinton even though he now finds it convenient to describe Bubba as a sexual predator: This is a knowedgeable accusation, rare for Trump.

    So your point, again, mg … ?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  16. I personally am not worried about hillary’s meeting with the fbi. She NEVER remembers anything.

    Jim (a9b7c7)

  17. Or the guy with the pending child rape allegations. Let’s not forget that, Trump supporters.

    Don’t worry. I’ll keep reminding you. I know you think only Mexicans can rape you – but Donald Trump has shown that he can rape you too.

    Leviticus (3068a2)

  18. So it seems chattaev was an asset for Georgian intelligence, after the previous shishani that went i can’t imagine how that would go wring.

    narciso (732bc0)

  19. I love the New York Post’s headline about Bubba and Loretta’s rendezvous …
    Snakes On A Plane.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  20. This just in Snowdon who smelled like agee, boyce and Co. With a fresh press kit is a sir asset

    narciso (732bc0)

  21. You made it, Beldar.
    lmao.

    mg (31009b)

  22. Trump had a YUUGE! week. After 26 consecutive polls showed him trailing Clinton, Rasmussen showed him ahead. Not just that, the Rasmussen result pushed the RCP average to now show him at 39.8%, only 4 points (or 10%) below his all time record high.

    Did you know one in twenty polls is expected to be an outlier?

    Rick Ballard (0e6252)

  23. rats.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  24. The current Miss Universe pageant was founded in 1952 by Pacific Knitting Mills, a California-based clothing company and manufacturer of Catalina Swimwear. The company was the sponsor of the Miss America pageant until 1951, when the winner, Yolande Betbeze, refused to pose for publicity pictures wearing one of their swimsuits. So in 1952 Pacific Knitting Mills organised the Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants, co-sponsoring them for decades to follow.

    The first Miss Universe Pageant was held in Long Beach, California in 1952. It was won by Armi Kuusela from Finland, who gave up her title, though not officially, to get married, shortly before her year was completed.[11] Until 1958, the Miss Universe title, like that of Miss America, was dated by the year following the contest, so at the time Ms. Kuusela’s title was Miss Universe 1953.

    Since its founding by Pacific Mills, the pageant has been organized and conducted by the Miss Universe Organization. Eventually Pacific Mills and its subsidiaries were acquired by the Kayser-Roth Corporation, which was in turn acquired by Gulf and Western Industries.

    The pageant was first televised in 1955. CBS began broadcasting the combined Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants in 1960, and as separate contests in 1965. John Charles Daly hosted the pageant from 1955 to 1966, Bob Barker from 1967 to 1987, Alan Thicke in 1988, John Forsythe in 1989, Dick Clark from 1990 to 1993, and Bob Goen from 1994 to 1996.

    Donald Trump bought the operating company, Miss Universe, Inc., in 1996 from ITT Corp.[12] Trump struck a broadcasting arrangement with CBS for a few years. In 1998, Miss Universe, Inc. changed its name to Miss Universe Organization, and moved its headquarters from Los Angeles to New York City.[8][13] In 2002 Trump entered into a joint venture with NBC,[1][14] which in 2003 outbid the other networks for the TV rights.[15] From 2003 to 2014, the pageant was broadcast in the US on NBC.

    NBC and Univision dropped the pageant in September 2015 when NBC cancelled all business relationships with the Miss Universe Organization and with Trump in response to his political comments in June 2015 about illegal immigration during his campaign for the presidency of the United States

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  25. The same Catalina Swimwear company created the Miss America, Miss USA, and Miss Universe pageants,

    All three.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  26. I know inconvenient facts,

    narciso (732bc0)

  27. Or the guy with the pending child rape allegations. Let’s not forget that, Trump supporters.

    As told by an employee [to be named later, chosen by random lottery] of Bill Clinton’s pimp.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  28. The Australians (that’s the ones with the kangaroos – for you Obama voters) have voted to hang their parliament.

    Kind of like voting for SMOD.

    papertiger (c2d6da)


  29. Instead, the Susan G. Komen organization — the breast-cancer nonprofit that hosted the party — got a $12,000 payment from another nonprofit, the Donald J. Trump Foundation.

    Trump himself sent no money. (In fact, a Komen spokeswoman said, Trump has never given a personal gift of cash to the Komen organization.) He paid the bill with money from a charity he founded in 1987, but which is largely stocked with other people’s money. Trump is the foundation’s president. But, at the time of the auction, Trump had given none of his own money to the foundation for three years running.

    The helmet is now worth about 400 bucks. He makes such great deals. He really does. Everybody says so. The deals are so, so great. That I can tell you.

    No the bad deal would have been sticking one of the good people there, who are just buying breast cancer research, with a grossly over priced Tim Ego helmet.

    The money he spent was trusted to him by people who expect him to spend it on things like cancer research.

    Is the beef that it’s breast cancer research?

    Sexists.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  30. 15. Trump haters – Hope your toilet cleaner does not rape your family before he mows your lawn.
    mg (31009b) — 7/2/2016 @ 1:50 am

    …..

    It’s funny to hear the Trumpism victims complaining about illegal immigrants. Nobody mows my lawn except me, but according to Mr. mg’s logic, it is Mr. Trump who needs to worry about his family. In his own words, just 2 1/2 years ago:

    “So at his New York penthouse office atop Trump Tower, he convened a meeting.
    Trump ushered in a pair of men — one to talk about the awards and a Democratic strategist who works with nonprofits — and three young DREAMer activists.
    …..
    Trump alternated between making no sense and broad ignorance on the issue, said Gaby Pacheco, a prominent national activist and the third DREAMer in the meeting.
    …..
    You know, the truth is I have a lot of illegals working for me in Miami,” he told them, using the term for undocumented immigrants those in the meeting found offensive. “You know in Miami, my golf course is tended by all these Hispanics — if it wasn’t for them my lawn wouldn’t be the lawn it is; it’s the best lawn,” Pacheco recalled Trump saying.
    Trump said he knew the work of undocumented people is what makes his golf courses and hotels great.
    …..
    “You’ve convinced me,” Trump said to the delight of the activists in the room.
    “We all smiled at each other and said, ‘Wow, we did it, we got this guy to change his mind,’” Pacheco said.”

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/that-time-donald-trump-had-a-meeting-with-dreamers-and-said#.piLnjqXDB

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  31. If you are indicting an outrageous minimum bid on a piece of junk, you’re indicting Ebay entire.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  32. it was very sweet of Mr. Trump to jump in and buy the little gay football player’s helmet for like a million times more than it was worth i think

    it’s good for timmy’s self-esteem and it helps do the cure on breast cancers

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  33. Turnbull is wallaby for Cameron,

    narciso (732bc0)

  34. I used to really like Newt; I followed his career from way back and rooted for him in 2012. A part of me hopes that this is all part of Newt’s master plan to invoke the 25th Amendment (this booting Trump on the ground of mental disability) and become Prez. But Trump would staff his cabinet with sycophants, so it wouldn’t work (and this is all conterfactual, because Trump won’t crack 40% in the general anyway.)

    Brian (c88b97)

  35. The toilet cleaning crowd of Mitty, and his posse are the leaders of clinton republicans voting for the pant load. I built my own security fence. And you?

    mg (31009b)

  36. Mr. Trump is so good he’ll get all the votes

    who’d you vote for who’d you vote for

    I voted for Mr. Trump! the people will say

    it’s time to make America great again!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  37. mitt romney lol

    what a perv

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  38. Take a gander at your typical Trump fanbois, pathetic freaks such as HappyFeet and MG, who likely live together, and who share an obsession with excretory functions.

    Brian (c88b97)

  39. Excerpt:

    “…..

    That this tough-guy, get-mad-and-get-even approach has gained him an increasingly large and enthusiastic following has probably surprised Trump as much as anyone else. Trump himself is simply and quite literally an egomaniac. But the phenomenon he has created and now leads has become something larger than him, and something far more dangerous.

    Republican politicians marvel at how he has “tapped into” a hitherto unknown swath of the voting public. But what he has tapped into is what the founders most feared when they established the democratic republic: the popular passions unleashed, the “mobocracy.” Conservatives have been warning for decades about government suffocating liberty. But here is the other threat to liberty that Alexis de Tocqueville and the ancient philosophers warned about: that the people in a democracy, excited, angry and unconstrained, might run roughshod over even the institutions created to preserve their freedoms. As Alexander Hamilton watched the French Revolution unfold, he feared in America what he saw play out in France — that the unleashing of popular passions would lead not to greater democracy but to the arrival of a tyrant, riding to power on the shoulders of the people.

    This phenomenon has arisen in other democratic and quasi-democratic countries over the past century, and it has generally been called “fascism.” Fascist movements, too, had no coherent ideology, no clear set of prescriptions for what ailed society. “National socialism” was a bundle of contradictions, united chiefly by what, and who, it opposed; fascism in Italy was anti-liberal, anti-democratic, anti-Marxist, anti-capitalist and anti-clerical. Successful fascism was not about policies but about the strongman, the leader (Il Duce, Der Führer), in whom could be entrusted the fate of the nation. Whatever the problem, he could fix it. Whatever the threat, internal or external, he could vanquish it, and it was unnecessary for him to explain how. Today, there is Putinism, which also has nothing to do with belief or policy but is about the tough man who single-handedly defends his people against all threats, foreign and domestic.

    …..”

    None of this sounds at all familiar, of course. Full article at:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-how-fascism-comes-to-america/2016/05/17/c4e32c58-1c47-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  40. Luke Stywalker,

    Thank you for providing another illustration of the Master Persuader’s skill in assessing the credulity and gullibility of a target audience prior to making the pitch necessary to win approval, no matter how temporary, and mark another ‘Deal Made’ in his ledger. I believe the representations made to the New Jersey Casino Control Commission to gain the license necessary to bankrupt the Taj Mahal to be the superior example of the skilled use of mendacity to achieve a temporary objective but the DREAMer meeting certainly belongs on the extraordinarily long list of occasions where Trump effectively used his undeniable skills.

    Rick Ballard (0e6252)

  41. pathetic freaks

    omg

    that’s summer bummer, saying that

    cruz and romney and meghan’s pitiful coward daddy

    the cult of the disappointed plunky-poops what cling so bitterly to these failed losers

    i wouldn’t call them pathetic freaks

    i would tell them this

    don’t be sucking too hard on your lollipop

    or love’s gonna get you down

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  42. He said he doesn’t know anything about David Duke you mean.

    Yes he’s clearly not telling the truth there.

    So what?

    happyfeet (a037ad) — 2/28/2016 @ 3:54 pm

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  43. ” ….. the extraordinarily long list of occasions where Trump effectively used his undeniable skills.”

    That boy will go a long way. I unexpectedly caught a late night movie yesterday, “All the King’s Men”, made in 1949. I kept thinking the examples it brought to life sure were current to today’s situation. It wasn’t till the end that I realized it was a thinly disguised historical adaptation of Huey Long’s career. For those who can’t be bothered reading history books, it might be useful in expanding your perceptions if you can find it somewhere.

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  44. Hillary Clinton interviewed by FBI this morning for 3.5 hrs

    She was a Pantload
    She was a Dear Leader
    But I think she’s
    Just a sad cow…

    Wait ’til the sh*t hits the fan!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  45. Hicks!

    nk (dbc370)

  46. ” ….Trump fanbois,….. an obsession with excretory functions.”

    Hard to deny.

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  47. On a holiday weekend… teh Chicago Way

    There’s blood in teh streets it’s up to his ankles
    Blood in teh streets up to his knees
    Blood in teh streets teh town of Chicago
    Blood in teh streets following him

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. I used to really like Newt; I followed his career from way back and rooted for him in 2012. A part of me hopes that this is all part of Newt’s master plan to invoke the 25th Amendment (this booting Trump on the ground of mental disability)

    Brian, you’re describing Star Fleet protocol for dealing with a recalcitrant Vulcan.
    The United States hasn’t adopted Gene Roddenberry’s Articles of Federation.

    Someday maybe.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  49. Pardon me nk, I just caught your reference. A frame of mind with consequences?

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  50. Last time I ran into a punk like you was in JacksonHole at a cowboy bar. Nothing like seeing a man stuffed in a popcorn machine.

    mg (31009b)

  51. Trumpism brings a latent mentality out in it’s followers, rather like those Germans in 1933 who just decided to wear some brown shirts.

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  52. Teh WaPo… the go-to for teh go-fers…

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/364461.php

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  53. brown brings out my hazel peepers

    brown steel!

    hah slayed ya

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  54. Luke.
    There is no dress code. If there is nobody told me.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  55. and bruises can happen all the time, especially purple ones, which are very common and often of indeterminate origin

    happyfeet (831175) — 3/9/2016 @ 8:41 pm

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  56. How have the quarter century of ‘free trade’ deals, worked out, say in . Milton friedman would pull a mcluhan justifiably at this shell game.

    narciso (b863a7)

  57. Remarkable, there was punctuation and capitalization in that post.

    But it was still incomprehensible.

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  58. Luke Stywalker,

    Don’t you have a comic-con to attend?
    Let’s cool our jets and reserve Nazi analogies for actual Nazis, jihadists, and the divestment from Israel crowd.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  59. It can’t happen here, right?

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  60. Twenty five years, how has the average worker benefited.

    narciso (b863a7)

  61. Trump’s latest: An ad criticising Hillary, depicted with a Star of David and piles of money.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-tweets-apparently-anti-000000428.html

    Luke Stywalker (758c29)

  62. Carp can be huge sport on a fly rod!

    mg (31009b)

  63. #63 Luke Stywalker,

    Oh, please, stop. Hillary is no friend of Israel.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  64. huma hates her some jews something fierce

    it’s really scary how bad she wants to do the genocide on them

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  65. oh my goodness Mr. Wiesel is dead

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  66. In the U.S.-Israel dispute over Iran’s nuclear program, Nobel laureate and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel has emerged as an unlikely protagonist — siding with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rather than President Obama.

    he was a good pickle

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  67. Bury this stywalker with the pigs.

    Colonel Haiku (d40275)

  68. I love the fawning, weird worship of Trump by some of his supporters. Oh, he’s a liar and is on record supporting the exact opposite of what I’m supporting him for? Well that’s because he’s Master Persuader. You guys are actually supporting a politician because you can’t believe a thing he says.

    Cruz Supporter demands Luke Stywalker stop, but that’s because he’s got y’all’s number.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  69. Carp can be huge sport on a fly rod!

    mg (31009b) — 7/2/2016 @ 11:45 am

    And, I must add, a spinning rig.

    But for the want of five pounds or hamburger, a bottle of red wine, and a quart of heavy cream, the world could have been mine.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  70. I could have saved the world in one backpack.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  71. Mitty brings out the give in style clintoon republicans admire. {C.C.}. Ryan brings out the submissive no nuts no worries attitude team republican mirrors.

    mg (31009b)

  72. say whatever you want about paul ryan – he’s still mitt mitt’s special little man

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  73. bad touch bad touch

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  74. Rip elie wiesel,

    narciso (732bc0)

  75. The greatest trick the Clinton campaign ever pulled was convincing the true conservatives they hadn’t supported her.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  76. true conservatives heart them some stinkypig she’s the #1 alternative to harvardtrash ted and his harvardtrash sacky

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  77. Dustin yearns for a politically acceptable target, so he can throw eggs then duck back down behind and get lost in a George Soros funded rent-a-mob.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  78. Dennis is ready for Hitlary. Her natural constituent.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  79. Did I say Dennis – yeah accidental – lack of sleep – and a dash who gives a damn what his name is. He’s a schmuck.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  80. i was wondering

    the only dennis I know loves his country to where he’d never ever do stinkypig on it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  81. You has get your “Phantom of the Ruhr” right here.

    http://www.zazzle.com/avro_lancaster_phantom_of_the_ruhr_t_shirt-235768245112971813t

    As for the rest, I don’t want to make funny right now.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  82. “You’re either with us or against us!”

    Well, I’m against you. Does NOT mean I’m for Hillary though. It’s just that you suck.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  83. This will piss off all the right people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8DxhS8wpoI

    In all seriousness, to those still on patrol. You can see the ship’s bells at the Chapel at Ford Island.

    Goddamm.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  84. lynch and bill, two lawyers who know what they did was wrong. So typical of lawyers.

    mg (31009b)

  85. I used to really like Newt; I followed his career from way back and rooted for him in 2012. A part of me hopes that this is all part of Newt’s master plan to invoke the 25th Amendment (this booting Trump on the ground of mental disability) and become Prez. But Trump would staff his cabinet with sycophants, so it wouldn’t work (and this is all counterfactual, because Trump won’t crack 40% in the general anyway.)

    1) I would never want to be the guy standing between Newt and the Oval Office*.

    2) I think the plan is more like Newt’s alien masters** will cause Trump to have a cerebral hemorrhage*** and allow him to become the GOP nominee.

    ——-
    *This is the same reason that Obama did not pick Hillary.
    ** see Men in Black
    *** see The Invaders (1967)

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  86. thinly disguised historical adaptation of Huey Long’s career

    And, except for Dr Weiss, Huey Long might have led America into the fascist abyss. Yet another chapter in the Man in the High Castle’s “The Grasshopper Lies Heavy”.

    Or the modern version: “The Caterpillar Lies Often”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  87. Hey, you guys like how none of the Trumpkins want to discuss the fact that Donald Trump has been accused of violently raping a child provided to him by Jeffrey Epstein? Far more evidence of it than there was evidence of Cruz’s dad’s involvement in the Kennedy assassination, if you ask me.

    C’mon, p*ssies – own your candidate.

    Leviticus (3068a2)

  88. Trump reminds me of Nelson Rockefeller, another New York establishment elite who loved big government when it suited his personal vision. He was the first RINO: Socially liberal in an era when the GOP electorate was conservative or he probably would have been the GOP nominee in 1964 (instead of Goldwater), and a wealthy, flamboyant man, who especially loved spending taxpayer money on big public ventures.

    Like Trump, Nelson Rockefeller was also fond of branding and deal-making, and he was the ultimate establishment figure. Trump was in his 20’s when Rockefeller was a wheeling-and-dealing New York Governor, and Trump was aware of Rockefeller’s lavish programs and unguided missile-style.

    If you want more GOP establishment, Trump is your man.

    DRJ (15874d)

  89. At least Rockefeller mouthed conservative principles, even if he didn’t follow tgrough. Trump doesn’t even know what they are without a teleprompter.

    DRJ (15874d)

  90. Trump.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  91. There is also the woman thing with both Rockefeller and Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  92. I guess if you want more Obama establishment then Hillary! is your man?

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  93. There’s a reason they are still called Rockefeller Republicans.

    DRJ (15874d)

  94. There’s also that Huma thing with Hillary!. They’re all womanizers.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  95. I want people to know what they voted for and who they want us to vote for. Maybe Trump is your man. Maybe Rockefeller was your man, too. They don’t seem like the people who will change DC to me.

    DRJ (15874d)

  96. Is womanizing a positive quality to you, Hoagie? Or is not an issue because everyone does it?

    DRJ (15874d)

  97. Is there some point to all your Trump bashing?
    He is the 2016 Republican candidate, whether you preferred somebody else or not.

    Do you stay seated in a baseball stadium after the 9th inning and everybody has left the field, still rooting for the home team after the lights have been turned off, hoping for a last-minute home run?

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  98. Mr. Trump’s the best one I like how he has so many different friends, all united in their believes that yes we can make America great again and by golly that’s what we’re gonna do.

    Homemade jar of lemon drop take a sip

    don’t stop girl!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  99. tip of the cap to you
    fred dash 2

    mg (31009b)

  100. I hope so, Kev

    urbanleftbehind (0d4efc)

  101. Huey Long reminded me of Bernie Sanders, promising to do socialism right, presented with a smiley face.

    What he would have done if elected President is just wish casting, since FDR had him killed.

    One point in Hillary’s favor, she hasn’t had henchmen bump off Bernie.
    IN this narrow criteria she is better than Roosevelt.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  102. Look at Levi, up on his haunches, wadding up his widdle fist.

    Hey, you guys like how none of the Trumpkins want to discuss the fact that Donald Trump has been accused of violently raping a child provided to him by Jeffrey Epstein? Far more evidence of it than there was evidence of Cruz’s dad’s involvement in the Kennedy assassination, if you ask me.

    Cruz’s dad was never accused of involvement in the Kennedy assassination despite the fact we have video of him associating with Oswald.

    Where’s your video of Trump doing the nasty. I mean if he’s going to tie a girl to a bed in front of one, two, three, … who knows how many witnesses, which is a felony in and of itself, then proceed to rape her in front of one, two, three,… who knows how many witnesses, then of course he would have no reason for apprehension if there were a camera crew present.
    Might become a feature length blue movie.

    So where is it Levi?

    C’mon, p*ssies – own your candidate.

    Nobody owns Trump. That’s a feature not a bug.

    What about Levi owning his candidate, whomever that might be this week.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  103. Another mass shooting by an illegal immigrant who’d been deported multiple times

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/02/another-mass-shooting-by-an-illegal-immigrant-whod-been-deported-multiple-times/

    I read the illegals, once they’re sure walking through the desert that they have crossed the border, call an Uber to pick them up.

    You know what would be a nice thing to have? A wall running through the middle of the desert. If only to frustrate Uber.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  104. i like Mr. Trump he’s a good and kind man

    i like how he’s so respectful of the good women of America

    and also eastern europe

    he’s a gentleman through and through

    unlike creepy Mitt Romney

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  105. 63. Trump’s tweet of Hillary with the Star of David and piles of cash.

    I don’t think that Trump is personally anti-Semitic, but he does have the knee-pads on for neo-Nazis and other fringe loonies. Zinc throat lozenges by the handful, too. They’re his core constituency, and he panders to them like a San Francisco pimp when the fleet is in.

    nk (dbc370)

  106. zinc is good it helps your immune system

    you know who needs a lozenge is stinkypig

    poor old stinky thang coughs like she got the consumption

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  107. During the early years of the war our submarines had the advantage because Japanese didn’t know they could dive down 150 feet.

    Then a congressional fact finding committee went to the Pacific. When they got back one of them made the remark, “Our submariners didn’t have anything to worry about. The Japanese are setting their depth charges too shallow.

    Of course Japanese can read.

    You know that was a democrat. Maybe a Kerry relative.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  108. (YouTube) a snip from Steve’s link.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  109. Mr. Snowden’s a boon to freedom

    he’s a good American he kicked the fascist NSA poofterboys in the mouth, and in the nuts, and in the kidneys, then he kicked them in their pretty little moufs some more, then he did a roundhouse to the side of their head

    then he laughed as they writhed in uncomprehending humiliation on their fluffy powerpuff girls carpet what they bought for to use for their gay orgies

    and I love him for it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  110. I know steve, take a bow,

    https://20committee.com/2016/07/02/the-kremlin-admits-snowden-is-a-russian-agent/

    narciso (732bc0) — 7/2/2016 @ 5:42 pm

    Credit due. He called it early and often.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  111. it turns out snowden was working for hydra, although it took this last film to admit it, obliquely,

    narciso (732bc0)

  112. omg Mr. narciso this hyperbolic cynicism is gonna make summer bummer on the whole blog you don’t be careful

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  113. in the film, colonel zemo, who seems awfully young, is able to wreak his vengeance, in part through documents leaked on the internet,

    narciso (732bc0)

  114. i’ll have to make a point of seeing this film eventually

    perhaps in a hotel somewhere, nursing a martini, enjoying a cheese as yet unencountered

    but until that day comes

    i will abide my friend

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  115. it will probably be on demand by the fall,

    narciso (732bc0)

  116. The suit got thrown out in California. I wonder if they tried to shop that one to the La Raza court?
    Misfired in the shuffle.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  117. Nobody owns Trump.

    Oh my stars and garters! If there was ever an obvious mob front, this would be it. Four bustouts so far, with the big time one to come. The campaign accounting is already mysterious.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  118. If you sue a NY resident in a California court, for something that happened in NY, I’d be guessing it always gets thrown out.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  119. it turns out snowden was working for hydra, although it took this last film to admit it, obliquely,

    How is that possible? Are you telling me that Snowden works for Hillary?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  120. accounting is inherently mysterious

    there’s numbers involved

    arbitrary judgements

    pasty white people

    DAMN good coffee

    and HOT

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  121. in a roundabout way, steve rogers was all lets reveal everything, whats the worse that could happen,

    narciso (732bc0)

  122. let’s at least reveal what these spy-pansies do on our own people

    let’s at least reveal how not-free, how abrasively monitored and charted the typical failmerican walmart shopper-pig is

    thank you ed snowden

    thank you terror

    thank you disillusionment

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  123. fred-2:

    Is there some point to all your Trump bashing?
    He is the 2016 Republican candidate, whether you preferred somebody else or not.

    All I said is that Trump is a womanizing Washington elite like moderate Republican Nelson Rockefeller.

    We all know who Trump is. He’s been a womanizer and supported moderate political policies all his life. These qualities are kniwn to and don’t bother Trump supporters, so how is that bashing him?

    DRJ (15874d)

  124. drj don’t like it

    TRUMP the casbah

    TRUMP the casbah

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  125. she thinks he’s not kosher

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  126. Snowden is a Russian collaborator. That’s not admirable.

    DRJ (15874d)

  127. we’re all flawed in our own way

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  128. It might be “Trump-bashing” to people who have created an image of Trump as something heroic. Like people who romanticize Snowden.

    DRJ (15874d)

  129. I addressed that point at 111), now the more interesting question is when did the svr make contact, some speculate back in geneva when he was working for the cia,

    narciso (732bc0)

  130. How could that be bashing? It’s just telling the truth. Over and over and over again and again and again. Nothing wrong with that. We gotta drive the point home that Trumps no good. Just so you all know. In case you haven’t heard. Cause it’s our duty to bury the Republican candidate. So you all know. Cause even though Lynch is making deals with Clinton on tarmacs in secret Trump is bad and you all should know. Over and over and over again. In case you missed it the first two million times. Trump is bad.

    Hey DRJ, is Trump bad?

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  131. edward snowden sowing the seeds of

    sowing the seeds of

    *love*

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  132. A Life Well-Lived.

    The Edward Snowden Story

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  133. it’s like the purge, the first one was odious enough, ethan hawke was in it, enough said,
    they had to make two more,

    narciso (732bc0)

  134. A few minutes ago we were Hilter’s Germany.
    Now we’re Tammany Hall.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  135. it’ll send up an emmy-winning series on showtime i imagine

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  136. So what if it’s “Trump-bashing”? Are we supposed to feel guilty or politically incorrect for it? Truck Fump! He sucks.

    nk (dbc370)

  137. the purge i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  138. Mr. Trump?

    he’s whiskers on kittens and raindrops on roses

    fishsticks and cheeses not stinkypig poses

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  139. Was I the only one who knew all along, from the very beginning, that Snowden was a Russian agent? And the numbnuts in Congress, who used it as an opportunity to embarrass the NSA and Obama, Putin’s useful idiots?

    nk (dbc370)

  140. well you generally put some trust in the it guy, don’t you, but here’s the thing everyone is spying on everybody, everywhere,

    narciso (732bc0)

  141. You know, you can hate the President from the other party all you want, but you don’t ally yourself with America’s biggest enemy, to the disadvantage of America, to score cheap political points against him.

    nk (dbc370)

  142. i like Mr. Snowden

    he’s sassy

    and besides

    America ain’t all that

    it’s a failed sleazy slutstate hell-bent on electing a diseased and STINKY coughy coughy pig named hillary

    the quest stands upon the edge of a knife

    stray but a little and it will fail

    here is Mr. Trump

    here’s sloppy pigstank

    only one can advance the flagging fortunes of the west

    choose you must

    but choose wisely

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  143. come on feel the noise

    use your electronic toys

    we’ll kill, kill, kill every point we don’t like with blather

    twoleftfeet (dbc370)

  144. australia’s on my list

    my heart longs for melbourne

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  145. oh wait i got my metal bands confuzzled

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  146. the 80s are

    so nuanced

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  147. you were looking for this,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0AxrOUJ62E

    I would also cite midnight oil, but why bother,

    narciso (732bc0)

  148. also this to kick off the musical segment,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SECVGN4Bsgg

    narciso (732bc0)

  149. overkill is more in the spirit of #nevertrump i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  150. You know, you can hate the President from the other party all you want, but you don’t ally yourself with America’s biggest enemy, to the disadvantage of America, to score cheap political points against him.

    nk (dbc370) — 7/2/2016 @ 7:45 pm

    What are you… stuck in the ’80s!?!?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  151. That should have been the focus. What Congress should have beat the NSA on. Its faulty security procedures. Who does not know that pixel pixies* are overwhelmingly dysfunctional geeks susceptible to money, sex and anti-American ideology, who need to be vetted extra-carefully and watched extra-carefully if their jobs involve critical information?

    *One good Cold War reference deserves another. “You know what pixies are, don’t you? They’re like fairies.”

    nk (dbc370)

  152. I like Carly, so I laughed only to myself when she said that Silicon Valley would volunteer in a cyber-war against terrorists. Like those freaks can be trusted with national security information.

    nk (dbc370)

  153. at the time, we were going along with the hallucination that aq was dead, of course that was right around that jeh purged the fbi and dhs of training manuals that point out these things,

    narciso (732bc0)

  154. I write what I think, Hoagie, just like you. I don’t know if Trump is a good or a bad man, but I know I don’t trust him enough to vote for him. I will vote for almost anyone who is marginally conservative, but Trump is too marginal for me.

    However, I understand why some people will vote for Trump. I encourage you to keep making your best arguments, although I don’t think the best argument for Trump is to effectively tell people that don’t support him to “Shut up already.”

    There are a handful of people who comment here that don’t want to vote for Trump, and a handful that may even vote for Hillary. I’m curious: Why is it right to continually comment about Hillary — even though there are very few people here who plan to vote for her — but it’s wrong to comment about Trump?

    DRJ (15874d)

  155. Hey DRJ, is Trump bad?

    I’ll answer that.

    Yes.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  156. Jeh Johnson had nothing to do with Snowden. Janet Napolitano was Secretary of DHS for one thing, and the NSA is not under DHS for another. It is under the “least untruthful” Director of National Intelligence.

    nk (dbc370)

  157. By the way, IMO it’s fine to comment on Hillary or any public figure. I am not saying don’t talk about her.

    DRJ (15874d)

  158. stinkypig’s stink is sweet and sour, hot and heavy, a soup du jour

    there are very few people here who plan to vote for her

    cause of most normal well-adjusted people say hey

    let’s make America great again@

    let’s do it for our country the red white and the blue

    if the president were standing here i’m sure he would approve

    (unless it was a fascist loser sorospig like food stamp)

    just think about it!

    it’d be like we were doing it for the Statue of Liberty

    or the Grand Canyon

    or the New York Yankees

    it’d be like as if we were doing it for

    DISNEYLAND!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  159. @ = !

    i accidentally hit the wrong button on my plastic keybboard

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  160. Brian (c88b97) — 7/2/2016 @ 8:52 am

    I used to really like Newt; I followed his career from way back and rooted for him in 2012. A part of me hopes that this is all part of Newt’s master plan to invoke the 25th Amendment (this booting Trump on the ground of mental disability) and become Prez.

    It might not be that, but it might be some people thinking that Trump has a 50-50 chance of naming a very unsuitable person to any position, (not a 90-10 chance of naming somebody bad) so that if somebody good (like themselves) is offered a position, especially if it something that doesn’t require Senate confirmation, he had better take it even if he’d ratgher not disturb his life. And also that’s it’s good to have somebody suitable to take over in case of impeachment.

    Even for jobs requiring Senate conformation, how many nominations can the Senate be expected to turn down? You can have a Harriet Myers rejection once in a while, but for one quarter or one half of all the appointments?

    And as for Trump having a low probability of being elected, this, of course, deals with that contigency, whatever its probability, and patriotism might demand that that possibility should not ignored or discounted.

    Sammy Finkelman (09e4a9)

  161. *keyboard*

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  162. he was in charge, when they purged the materials, when the ig went after haney,

    narciso (732bc0)

  163. i’m a lil plum tuckered

    horrible experience

    my ward and heir in california poor lil guy

    he had a car trouble

    so my job was to look up the number for socal roadside assistance – i been paying for his aaa for YEARS and we never used it before ever

    but every time you go to their site it redirects to chicago

    SO SLEAZY

    finally i searched it right

    and everything worked out

    but that was so sleazy cheesy i’m seriously looking for an alternative to aaa

    this better world crap seems too hippy dippy though

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  164. well I have geico, mileage may vary, but it’s pretty good all told,

    narciso (732bc0)

  165. has everybody seen The Prisoner’s “speech” from the final episode?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFIMH_KB-So

    fast forward to 4:40

    my heroes

    you talk about jamming?

    you have no idea

    twoleftfeet (dbc370)

  166. nonono

    no spoilers

    i have that series on cds somewhere i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  167. If the NSA didn’t exist, which it shouldn’t because of it being totally illegal, against the spirit, letter, and all coherent interpretations of the fourth amendment, even most of the retarded ones,
    then Snowden wouldn’t have had anything to disclose.

    The charge could be trafficking in stolen goods. And that is sad.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  168. oh.

    his car insurance is geico

    maybe we should just add roadside to it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  169. If the NSA didn’t exist, which it shouldn’t because of it being totally illegal, against the spirit, letter, and all coherent interpretations of the fourth amendment, even most of the democrat ones,
    then Snowden wouldn’t have had anything to disclose.

    The charge could be trafficking in stolen goods. And that is sad.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  170. well now i’ll want both

    it’s such a terrible feeling when people are in trouble on the whole other side of the continental divide

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  171. you should consider it, also update your address,

    nsa was probably near the potential reach of the minaret and other surveillance programs of the 70s, it wasn’t officially acknowledged until that time, but there is a counterpart agency in every major country in the world,

    narciso (732bc0)

  172. no my address is updated

    i get a gift membership for p though

    but i have no way of accessing the socal websites from here cause of the redirects

    srsly

    try googling southern california aaa

    it’s unpossible

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  173. Snowden did not “disclose”. He spied. And Putin took the intelligence coup and scored a propaganda coup, too.

    You dipsticks deserve the Caliphate. It’s too bad that the rest of us can’t let it have just you.

    nk (dbc370)

  174. Horsefeather

    At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it?– Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!–All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

    At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

    The NSA insinuating itself into every conversation, eye on every key hole, tapped into every mic is part and parcel of the political class trying their damnedest to effect that suicide Lincoln alluded to.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  175. Apples and borsht. Snowden was not working for American freedoms; he was working for the dick his Russian handler was slipping him.

    You want your government to respect your privacy, you keep it between you and your government. You don’t side with a foreign government that’s got 8,000 nuclear bombs aimed at you.

    nk (dbc370)

  176. perhaps the limber gymnast (who will be played from the gal from the divergent?? films) had a part in this,

    narciso (732bc0)

  177. divergent chick has the personality of 3-week-old hummus plus she’s got a chubby for the bern

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  178. And what f***ing part of the Russian admission that Snowden was working for them don’t you understand? Are you saying that Putin is fighting for the Fourth Amendment?

    nk (dbc370)

  179. Mr. Snowden means well

    he’s fighting for a better whirl

    stinkypig just wants to feel what it’s like to be one of them women what don’t have that not-so-fresh feeling all the time

    she prays every night to stinkypig jesus to answer her prayers

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  180. I am saying that the fourth amendment is a covenant between the United States of America and me.
    Putin can butte the fork out.

    Hell, he’d have to build a megastructure, with it’s own power stations, rail to deliver coal, millions of tonnes of wire, somewhere in Kansas. No Russian could do that, don’t care how many bears he brings.

    Criminal that the American Uniparty built one for him.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  181. I’m curious: Why is it right to continually comment about Hillary — even though there are very few people here who plan to vote for her — but it’s wrong to comment about Trump?
    DRJ (15874d) — 7/2/2016 @ 9:08 pm

    It is neither right nor wrong to comment about either and I apologize (seems I do that a lot here) if I gave the impression I thought it was.

    Now to answer why it is “right to continually comment about Hillary”. I was under the impression this is a conservative blog. Trump is not a conservative but Hillary! is the antithesis of everything that is conservative. Do you see the difference? Trump may be 99% not conservative but Hillary is 100% radical leftist. Get it? Hillary! is being investigated by the FBI and Loretta Lynch is meeting clandestinely with Bill Clinton showing the depth of corruption is so bad they think they can get away with it and the conservatives are worried if Trump used the “N” word in 1963.

    The conservatives are making Hillarys! case for her. If you’re a conservative and don’t like Trump you should ignore him but to actively try and defeat him allies you to Hillary!. And if the enemy of my enemy is my friend then the friend of my enemy must be my enemy too. Which means after the election when the dust settles the conservatives will no longer be able to count on each other to defeat the higher evil. That puts the left in charge.

    I’m not naïve. I realize after sixty years of leftist education in public schools, leftist brainwashing from Hollywood and on the news and leftist culture pushed on TV and now even in commercials our nation is in decline. I was hoping it would not turn into a sewer of leftist ideology in my lifetime. The eight years of Obama got the ball rolling. Eight years of Hillary! will add the momentum and eight years of Chelsea will be the third nail on the cross.

    Did I mention how bad Trump is? He is a horrible person. You know he went bankrupt four times? And as nk points out he just loves those Slovenian women. Trump. Bad.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  182. Carp like this is why I was catching up on the first season of pesky blinders. Nsa sprung from the asa during the war, just like ghcq from the enigma code breakers, budiansky explains how.

    narciso (732bc0)

  183. Trump likes ’em biutiful. nk likes ’em swarthy and ruddy.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  184. The NSA is the Jeff Epstein of government agencies. Useless. Expensive. With the appearance of corruption a given. Built into the cake.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  185. We used it to beat the Russians, there were some weak spots like the army St who prompted the Korean war, and Hamilton and Mitchell and boyce

    narciso (732bc0)

  186. Who needs a Watergate break in? Just send Loretta over to the NSA and listen to the recordings in the archive.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  187. Boyce was arrested on January 16, 1977, when the FBI found him hiding out at the shack he was renting near Riverside, California. – wiki

    the shack he was renting in Riverside. Boy that FBI is on the ball. After an arduously search, tracking him to the address given on his driver’s licence.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  188. Two of the 9/11 hijackers were doing the same thing under their own name.

    narciso (732bc0)

  189. useless as [insert generic absurd obscenity here]

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  190. 160.”Hey DRJ, is Trump bad?

    I’ll answer that.

    Yes.

    Patterico ”

    Well, Jesus isn’t running for president this year.
    Only Hillary and Trump.

    As Thomas Sowell said, “You can only choose among the alternatives actually available, regardless of how many others you wish were available.”

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  191. #194 fred-2,

    Please stop.
    You can’t be suggesting facts and logic at a time like this. We want Calvin Coolidge on the ballot, and since he’s not on the ballot, we’re not going to vote for anyone. Or maybe we’ll vote for the more liberal nominee as a means of punishing Republicans for not nominating Calvin Coolidge.

    Thomas Sowell, John Bolton, and Dick Cheney are all just closeted liberals! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  192. Hillary will be awful, Hoagie, but I worry that Trump will push the GOP away from conservative solutions and even further toward corruption/big government solutions. The GOP is already halfway there and it won’t take much to push it to where we conservatives can’t get it back.

    I would rather try to save the GOP, but it was born because the Whigs wouldn’t learn and maybe that will also be true of today’s Republican Party.

    DRJ (15874d)

  193. DRJ,

    I think we have to be more concerned about saving the country than in saving the GOP.
    Unfortunately, Presidential elections are not about electing a great conservative — it’s about stemming the tide of the left.
    Most Americans just want to watch football, eat cheeseburgers, get barbed wire tattoos, and buy paper towels in bulk at Sam’s Club. They’re not animated about discussing ideas espoused by Edmund Burke. By the way, which NFL team did Edmund Burke play for? (LOL)

    We want to delay the punitive consequences of left wing insanity as much as possible. I wish Lincoln, Garfield, Cleveland, McKinley, Coolidge, or Reagan was on the ballot this November. But none of them is.
    Trump’s more conservative than Hillary! so I’m voting for him. That doesn’t mean he’s “conservative,” per se, rather it just means he’s MORE conservative than Hillary!.

    I wish Cruz, Rubio, Fiorina, Jindal, or Walker had become the nominee. Then, at least if we were to win in November, we would win with a conservative.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  194. CS, if we can’t save the GOP, how do we save the country?

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  195. I am concerned about the country but it will take 10-20 years for a new party to get power, and I don’t think we have that long.

    DRJ (15874d)

  196. I am no longer a Republican but I want to save the GOP because I think we need it to save the country.

    DRJ (15874d)

  197. If you look at the Democratic Party and the Republican Party over the past 20 years, both have become more moderate/liberal and more beholden to special interests, which leads to corruption. Yes, the Democrats are socialists but the Republicans haven’t offered a conservative alternative. They don’t look that different to the average voter, and Trump will blur that line even more.

    DRJ (15874d)

  198. here’s the cunning plan

    i’ll go slow so you can get it all down in your trapper keeper

    ok number one (1) we elect stinkypig and validate the idea of failmerica as a lawless despicable cowardly slutstate

    then number two (2) harvardtrash ted and his harvardtrash sacky waddle up on their stout chubby thighs for to get elected

    followed by number three (3) the people what voted two terms of food stamp and one term of stinkypig say oops yes yes we actually wanted to vote for these charmless harvardtrash kim davis butt snufflers

    and bingo bango number four (4) America wins 90S DANCE PARTY!!!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  199. DRJ, I like the cut of your jib.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  200. Much better to elect Trump and hope he decides to be someone he isn’t, right hf?

    DRJ (15874d)

  201. the president is just a teensy tiny part of what you elect when you elect a president

    but you know that

    you’re just mad cause your gay marriage hating fetus humping harvardtrash teddy-pie got rejected

    you’re having yourself a nice good pout

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  202. Enabling the Democrats to hold the White House and all of the federal agencies for the next four years is not going to advance the Republican party.
    Many of you are looking for Grover Cleveland or Calvin Coolidge or Ronald Reagan to become the nominee.
    I would LOVE for that to come to fruition, but the reality is that we just need to try and stem the left wing tide every four years as best we can.
    Electing Trump will stem the left wing tide BETTER than electing Hillary.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  203. stem the tide yes yes

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  204. I don’t want to advance the GOP. I don’t want to save it. I want to use it.

    DRJ (15874d)

  205. 4-8 years of Trump will make the GOP unusable for conservatives. It will be an entrenched party of corrupt elites by then — grateful for anything that lines their pockets. It’s already halfway there but give them a President they can own and they won’t care about winning for another 10-20 years, and they will never care about principles again.

    DRJ (15874d)

  206. that sounds like a rationalization

    after almost a whole year of all that lurid anti-pp abortion porn around here

    suddenly letting stinkypig pack the court with naral judges is just a refreshing slurpylicious interlude

    principles lol

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  207. One positive I see in Trump is that he says he cares about immigration. Of course, he didn’t in the past and he’s recently changed his mind (again), so it’s hard to believe he will do anything except punt to Congress and say he tried.

    DRJ (15874d)

  208. Trump wants judges like his sister. His pro-choice sister.

    DRJ (15874d)

  209. Why are you so angry, happyfeet?

    DRJ (15874d)

  210. DRJ, you actually wrote in #196,

    “I would rather try to save the GOP,…”
    ————–

    Look, somebody is going to become the next President. As Tom Sowell says, “It’s going to be someone whose name appears on the ballot.”
    Outside of something catastrophic happening at either (or both) of the conventions, it’s going to be President Trump or President Clinton. We can all do the song and dance about hoping that Joe Blow of the American Constitution Federalist Society Conservative Party (LOL) shocks the world, but that’s not going to happen. It’s effectively a binary choice; Trump or Clinton.
    I wish it were Cruz or Rubio or Fiorina or Jindal or Walker VS Clinton, but it’s not.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  211. he gave a list of the judges he’ll nominate

    she’s not on it

    but we know for sure who stinkypig will nominate oh yes oh yes we do we do

    she’s a come get them wiggle giggles she’s a come get them all!

    if only there was something we could have done to stop her

    the good people will sigh

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  212. CS,

    I’m sorry I wrote that because I only want to save the GOP to use it. I am not a Republican. I don’t give money to Republicans anymore unless they are conservatives. I don’t give the GOP money and I never will again, even if Cruz or someone like him is someday the nominee.

    This is about the country to me, not any party.

    DRJ (15874d)

  213. if you put her in the oval

    if she gets that gig

    you’ll never get rid

    of the stinkypig

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  214. Didn’t Patterico write about the binary choice argument? He did.

    DRJ (15874d)

  215. I’m sorry I wrote that because I only want to save the GOP to use it. I am not a Republican. I don’t give money to Republicans anymore unless they are conservatives. I don’t give the GOP money and I never will again, even if Cruz or someone like him is someday the nominee.

    Sounds like a classical Trump supporter to me.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  216. Playing the Trump card.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  217. #216 DRJ,

    I’m for the country first…that’s why I’m willing to vote for Trump over Clinton — because he will stem the tide of the left better than Hillary will.
    You guys can reject the binary choice all you want and choose to talk about sitting out the election or for voting for Joe Blow of the American Constitution Federalist Purity Party, but that person’s not going to win. Voting for Joe Blow will only help Hillary get closer to an electoral college majority. I know there’s that sentiment that by voting for the American Constitution Federalist Purity Party candidate it somehow sends a Peter Finch message to Reince Preibus and Karl Rove that you’re “mad as hell, and not going to take it anymore!” but it’s only interpreted as, “oh, those fringe voters would probably find fault with Calvin Coolidge.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  218. banford was an unreliable chronicler of the nsa, much like herbert yardley with the black chamber,

    http://www.budiansky.com/home.html

    narciso (732bc0)

  219. One of the Trumpkin shills apparently quibbles with my sentence above in which I said that “I’d worry about a guy who started a whole ‘nuther international beauty pageant for women with obvious boob jobs.” He points out that Trump merely bought a whole ‘nuther international beauty pageant for women with obvious boob jobs. In fact, under his leadership, the pageant famously subsidized the boob jobs — just google Carrie Prejean.

    I know, I know — subsidizing young women’s boob jobs isn’t necessarily rapey-creepy. It’s strip-club creepy, and exploitative as hell, though, and the guy who cuts my lawn, who usually brings one of his adult kids or his wife to help, doesn’t strike me as even strip-club creepy, so I’m still more worried about Trump around my family. 😀

    Beldar (fa637a)

  220. What do you bet that one of Trump’s companies wrote off the boob jobs they bought for those contestants as a business expense, so that Trump could surround himself with beautiful young women with fake boobs at taxpayer expense?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  221. it’s good for to have the best breasts you can, when they’re an important part of who you are

    I get that

    Mr. Trump gets that

    lots of women get that too

    it’s a fallen whirl, but you can still have perky breasts

    and thank god america Mr. Trump for that

    aspiration is quintessentially american after all, at least it was awhile back

    meanwhile stinkypig laughs at rape victims

    it’s astonishing

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  222. Meanwhile Donald Trump rapes victims.

    Leviticus (3068a2)

  223. no he doesn’t that’s a complete misnomer

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  224. Cruz Supporter, instead of mocking DRJ with incessant (LOL)s and deep observations about how many people are on the ballot, read her comments more seriously. She’s explaining her point of view in a painstaking fashion I personally agree with but rarely bother to explain anymore.

    The GOP is and of itself is just politicians, and unworthy of your devotion. The GOP can be purposeful to improve or preserve our nation, and that’s all it’s good for. It is crystal clear that Trump leading the GOP is contrary to that purpose. Those that support him aren’t getting beyond the “democrats are the boogeyman” aspect of team politics. I’m not saying that means you should vote against Trump. Both candidates are terrible and there are a lot of reasons to vote against both of them. But DRJ’s taking the long view and it’s better to understand her view than to mock it just to repeat the same thing you say in every single thread like you are rooting for the Cubs.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  225. besides were electing a president here not a freaking pope

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  226. Am I speaking of Ivana Trump? Am I speaking of Jill Harth? Am I speaking of then 13-year old Katie Johnson? Who can say?

    Trumpkins remain unfazed.

    Leviticus (3068a2)

  227. *we’re* electing a president i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  228. Just now on the street where I live.

    Volunteers put up American flags on the front lawns of every house on our block, both sides of the street. The two-foot size ones (flags not houses). Blue-eyed white trash types, with the mother-in-law in an Edith Bunker dress and their three tow-headed kids, thought that the flags were theirs for the taking. Walking down the street, each carrying several. I confronted the daddy and all he knew was that his mother-in-law and his wife already had them when he met them on his way to the sushi place. He explained this in a Southern Illinois accent. Could have been Kentucky. They’re strangers to the neighborhood and I hope they stay that way.

    nk (dbc370)

  229. come on nk, maybe he used to work for the coal mines. Although it would have been priceless to have eses be indignant about the theft of the flags

    urbanleftbehind (2256c6)

  230. Another 4 to 8 years of Gangster Government. The path partially paved by people who should know better.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  231. in spite of the fact, that the main character is made up, why do I keep watching the show,

    narciso (732bc0)

  232. What “eses” would those be, ulb? And what are “eses”, in the first place?

    nk (dbc370)

  233. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/3/2016 @ 3:38 pm

    You think he would *stem the tide* of advancing Leftism.

    In my opinion (which I think is shared by DRJ, Patterico, and others–but I don’t want to pretend I speak for them–the tide will advance as much under him as her. And possibly less because the GOP can at least be counted on to oppose Hillary,whereas they will happily roll over for Trump.

    Besides which he seems to lean Left on most social issues. He criticized North Carolina because its law was bad for business. He was fine with PP until he needed votes in the primary.Etc. He only differs on the topic of PC police.

    kishnevi (082931)

  234. The Chicago equivalent of “Eses” (a California perjorative) would be found in Cicero, Berwyn and Lyons, nk. Bad on me since it would be a variation of the many white guy dumb, person of color saves day commercials that are legion on Tv these days.

    Happy – speaking of Kim Davis butt sniffing: https://gma.yahoo.com/donald-trump-possible-vp-pick-indiana-gov-pence-191105541–abc-news-topstories.html

    urbanleftbehind (2256c6)

  235. which adviser would lean him in that direction?

    narciso (732bc0)

  236. that’d be a really odd choice

    i think it’s super-unlikely

    i abjure this Mike Pence

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  237. He points out that Trump merely bought a whole ‘nuther international beauty pageant for women with obvious boob jobs.

    Facts are stubborn things, Beldar. It’s how we measure lawyer’s scruples.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  238. Nobody here to taking your case, Levi.

    You should try Univision. They’ll report it with a wink.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  239. Oh! This is Old Irving where I’m at now. I grew up here. We’re pretty much “Northwest Side ethnic”.

    nk (dbc370)

  240. And I’m a lawyer. I know how to intimidate people politely. I asked him if he was the neighborhood volunteer who put up the flags. That was enough.

    nk (dbc370)

  241. perez was the zampolit, responsible for neutering every police department from boston to orlando, and he rides with red queen,

    narciso (732bc0)

  242. the president is just a teensy tiny part of what you elect when you elect a president

    but you know that

    you’re just mad cause your gay marriage hating fetus humping harvardtrash teddy-pie got rejected

    you’re having yourself a nice good pout

    So much for the notion that happyfeet doesn’t attack other commenters.

    Patterico (86c8ed)


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