Patterico's Pontifications

6/29/2016

Trump Promises to Give to Charity, Gives Almost Nothing

Filed under: General,Stark Choice — Patterico @ 7:35 am

Voters face a stark choice in November, between a dishonest cretin and another dishonest cretin:

Trump has a long-standing habit of promising to give to charity. But Trump’s follow-through on those promises was middling — even at the beginning, in his early days as a national celebrity.

In the 1980s, Trump pledged to give away royalties from his first book to fight AIDS and multiple sclerosis. But he gave less to those causes than he did to his older daughter’s ballet school.

In recent years, Trump’s ­follow-through on his promises has been seemingly nonexistent.

The Post contacted 188 charities searching for evidence of personal gifts from Trump in the period between 2008 and this May. The Post sought out charities that had some link to Trump, either because he had given them his foundation’s money, appeared at their charity galas or praised them publicly.

The search turned up just one donation in that period — a 2009 gift of between $5,000 and $9,999 to the Police Athletic League of New York City.

Also this:

Y’all are in the middle of a social experiment to see how big a cretin can be and still garner your support. The dial just keeps getting turned to the right, and meanwhile the GOP and the Democrats are both getting more fully on board with their chosen cretin, every day.

200 Responses to “Trump Promises to Give to Charity, Gives Almost Nothing”

  1. Neither side cares about what the other is saying about their chosen candidate. Democrats don’t care about Hillary’s scandals, her corruption, or her lack of serious depth and ability to lead. Republicans don’t care about Trump’s lies, contradictions, lack of moral compass or character, or his past liberal statements. This is an election between a cult of personality and gender identity/politics. God help us all.

    Sean (221079)

  2. He drives really slow,
    in the ultra fast lane,
    while people, behind him,
    are going insane.

    Trump’s an a$$hole
    (he’s an a$$hole, what an a$$hole)
    Trump’s an a$$hole
    (he’s an a$$hole, such an a$$hole)

    Trump used public toilets,
    And pissed on the seats,
    Walks around in the summer time,
    sayin’ “How about this heat?”

    Trump’s an a$$hole
    (he’s an a$$hole, what an a$$hole)
    Trump’s an a$$hole
    (he’s the world’s biggest a$$hole)

    Sometimes he parks
    in handicapped spaces,
    While handicapped People,
    make handicapped faces,

    Trump’s an a$$hole
    (he’s an a$$hole, what an a$$hole)
    Trump’s an a$$hole
    (he’s a big f***ing a$$hole)

    Maybe I shouldn’t be singing this song,
    Ranting and raving and carring on,
    Maybe they’re right when they tell me I’m wrong.

    NAAAHHHHH

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  3. Trump gave a half a million to elect Romney. Look at all the good will that charity money bought him.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  4. Gave X amount to Police Athletic League of New York City.

    I understand how that happened. Those Police Athletic League’s solicitors are aggressive. They’ll call everyday with the sort of vague threat that if you complain it’ll go in the round file at the policeman’s benevolent society at best.

    Those police charities put Jehovah Witnesses to shame on pushiness.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  5. Nope. That’s how he got his concealed carry permit.

    nk (dbc370)

  6. $106,000! In Chicago, it’s under a $1,000 and that includes the training course.

    nk (dbc370)

  7. I like your theory. Between 5~10k for a CCP in New York City.

    Don’t know what the going rate in NYC. According to the Bee our new sheriff, Scott Jones of Sacramento County, has issued over 7000 ccl. Getting us white heterosexuals geared up for the terrorists.

    When Scott Jones became sheriff of Sacramento County in 2010, there were approximately 350 civilians licensed to carry concealed handguns in the county. Today there are nearly 8,000.

    That means statistically, in any sizable gathering – at the grocery store, a ballgame or church – at least one person is likely to be packing legal heat.

    About one out of every 135 adults in Sacramento County now has a license to carry. Jones has issued permits at an average rate of more than four per day during the last five years, according to data provided by the Sheriff’s Department.

    Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article73538112.html#storylink=cpy

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  8. Actually at ballgames they wand you for concealed weapons, so the Bee writer can’t afford to go to a ballgame in Sacramento. Sad.

    I should contact them. That is a potential Trump voter there.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  9. WHo does more with their money for society, someone who uses their money to build businesses and real estate developments that employ people, provide training, provide self sufficiency and provide a growing tax base for the state to suck from, or a the same person who instead of investing his money, gives it to the Ford or Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (regardless of the leftist anti-democratic causes they apply the funds to? I think the answer is easy, without even having to consider whether the charitable foundation does worthy work.

    Barry Davis (7e83e9)

  10. You know what I’m gonna do? I’m gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac El Dorado convertible,
    Hot pink with whaleskin hub caps and all leather cow interior and big brown
    baby seal eyes for headlights, yeah! And I’m gonna drive around in that baby at 115mph getting one mile per gallon, sucking down quarter pounder cheese burgers from
    McDonald’s in the old-fashioned non-biodegradable styrofoam containers and when I’m done sucking down those grease ball burgers, I’m gonna wipe my mouth with the
    American flag and then I’m gonna toss the styrofoam container right out the side and there ain’t a Dash Hamm thing anybody can do about it. YOu know why? Because
    we got the bombs, that’s why.
    [Spoken]
    Two words. Nuclear f#$%ing weapons, okay?! Russia, Germany, Romania – they can have all the Democracy they want. They can have a big democracy cake-walk
    right through the middle of Tiananmen square and it won’t make a lick of difference because we’ve got the bombs, okay?! John Wayne’s not dead – he’s frozen. And as
    soon as we find the cure for cancer we’re gonna thaw out the duke and he’s gonna be pretty pissed off. You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well
    multiple that by 15-million times, that’s how pissed off the Duke’s gonna be. I’m gonna get the Duke and John Cassavetes…
    (Hey)
    and Lee Marvin
    (Hey)
    and Sam Pekinpah
    (Hey)
    And a case of Whiskey and drive down to Texas…
    (Hey, you know you really are an a$$hole)
    Why don’t you just shut-up and sing the song pal!
    Trump’s an a$$hole (He’s an a##hole, what an a$$hole)
    Trump’s an a$$hole (He’s an a%%hole, what an a$$hole)
    A-$-$-H-O-L-E Everybody! A-$-$-H-O-L-E

    And proud of it.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  11. I love how Mr. Trump gives money to charity judiciously.

    I stopped all that nonsense after food stamp was re-elected in 2012. You pitiful failmericans need money you know where you can go baby pickle-poos.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  12. R.I.P. Scotty Moore, original lead guitarist (1954-64) for Elvis Presley

    Icy (3204b7)

  13. That probably should’ve read (1954-68)

    Icy (3204b7)

  14. Both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are big liars. But Hillary carefully focus group tests her lies – many probably emerge from what somebody in a focus group said – and, if she doesn’t carefully research and test some lies, they are carefully thought through – but Trump just makes them up on the spot.

    Like after the Brexit vote. He was in Scotland, and tweeted:

    Just arrived in Scotland. Place is going wild over the vote. They took their country back, just like we will take America back.

    The problem with that is that “Leave” lost badly in Scotland.

    He probably didn’t see anything, not even on TV – but just made it up, not realizing that it was not a plausible lie to anyone who knows anything about the vote, because he didn’t know Scotland voted differently..

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  15. Once again this is a binary choice – The Mad and Corrupt Lady of Chappaqua appointing Posner-esque or Wise Latinas to the Federal bench or SCOTUS (an ABSOLUTE guarantee) or hoping that The Donald will appoint Scalia-esque ones (no guarantee but better odds than Her Disgustingness)

    Blast Trump all you want but the reality it’s HRC or him…unless of course she gets indicted (Unicorns/Fifth Ave) and then we have Uncle Joe the Plagiarist and Fauxcahontas.

    You may consider yourself a Republican/conservative/libertarian who can’t possibly vote for Trump, but then you’re a de facto Republican/conservative/libertarian for Hillary

    Horatio (b6d3c4)

  16. You may consider yourself a Republican/conservative/libertarian who can’t possibly vote for Trump, but then you’re a de facto Republican/conservative/libertarian for Hillary

    Just like how all the people who supported Trump in the primaries were de facto for Hillary, since they spent so much time and energy ensuring the nomination for the least-likable candidate?

    CayleyGraph (353727)

  17. I don’t think so, this should have been said of maverick and romney, the ones they insisted were the only electable ones,

    narciso (732bc0)

  18. even after we have so much evidence that Clinton & Obama would rather have Amercians murdered than go to their aid in Benghazi, you still would rather defeat Trump and help elect Hillary Clinton, Obama’s failed Sec of State. Astonishing how much you must hate the USA.

    interesting now that Patterico doesn’t have the kind of candidate it likes as the presumptive repub nominee, it actively works to defeat the presumptive repub nominee.

    why not simply say you are for Hillary Clinton and be done with it instead of this farce?

    I mean really, do you “really” think you are helping this country by actively trying to defeat the presumptive repub nominee?

    yet a lot of us put up with the Bushes, Romneys, Doles, and Mccains and look what that got us? world wide war, liberal supreme court decisions and unlimited mounds of debt & illegal immigrants.

    so yeah we know Trump isn’t the best, but whats your point in trying to defeat presumptive repub nominee?

    if anything you proved he DID give to charity.

    so why don’t you show how much Hillary gave to AIDS in the 80s?

    if Trump loses it is solely because of quislings like Patterico.

    I mean how are you any different than Trump who gave to past Democrats? You are simply, like the Democrat hit machines, posting half truths and emphasizing the negative on the presumptive repub nominee?

    I guess you feel sorry for that other quisling George Will: Miserable losers enjoy making it miserable for everyone else since their “horse didn’t win.”

    pfft

    John (d41b3a)

  19. I should say that pointing out the problem with Donald Trump Scotland tweet is probably a Democratic meme – I saw it mentioned both in a New York Daily News editorial and a New Yorker article, but I didn’t see it in any news story – so the Hillary Clinton people must be called attention to it (after first checking it out in a focus group to see that there’s no downside and maybe it impresses some people as showing Trump is both an ignoramus and a liar.)

    Another thought: I saw on one of the Sunday shows some Hillary partisan wasa claiming that Trump was running on fear and Hillary on (something like hope or optimism)

    Actually they’re both running a campaign based on fear.

    Trump on fear of the status quo, and Hillary on fear of change.

    There really need to be other candidates.

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  20. Andrew Kaczynski… now there’s a go-to d-bag.

    Colonel Haiku (c7ccf8)

  21. Save your breath, Horatio. I’ve been tryin’ to essplain that since Trump cinched the nomination. Although some can’t be Republicans for Hillary! since they left the party like the great conservative George Will.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  22. papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/29/2016 @ 8:31 am

    Between 5~10k for a CCP in New York City.

    The indictment says $6,000. $18,000 if you have some arrests that would normally be an absolute bar.

    http://nypost.com/2016/04/19/carry-permits-for-felons-the-nypd-scandal-grows/

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  23. Apparently, continuous trashing of the anticipated R nominee is more important than preventing the election of a criminal… a person who helped to craft the current situation in Europe, Libya, Syria, Egypt, etc., who put our national security at risk, who has destroyed the lives of numerous female victims of her husband’s priapism and so much more.

    Colonel Haiku (c7ccf8)

  24. Sort of akin to the Democrat’s rebuttal issued the day before the Benghazi report. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trumpety Trump…

    Colonel Haiku (c7ccf8)

  25. The much-anticipated pure conservative ended up being perceived as too preachy by some and didn’t connect with a wide swath of primary voters, so they will not only take their ball and run home, they’ll also light fires along the way.

    Colonel Haiku (c7ccf8)

  26. sadly, that was so, I was rooting for him, but he got some terrible advice along the way,

    narciso (732bc0)

  27. since red squaw and red queen are together again, although ingraham dubbed her ruth buzzi,
    a reminder,

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/296227/elizabeth-warrens-wall-street-money-machine-kevin-d-williamson

    narciso (732bc0)

  28. Comments like this:

    if Trump loses it is solely because of quislings like Patterico.

    and this:

    The much-anticipated pure conservative ended up being perceived as too preachy by some and didn’t connect with a wide swath of primary voters, so they will not only take their ball and run home, they’ll also light fires along the way.

    … remind me of Susan Rice, the Obama Administration official who appeared on 5 Sunday shows after Benghazi to assure everyone that a video prompted the protests. She is the ultimate partisan who thinks winning and loyalty to her Party is all that matters.

    At the risk of being too “preachy,” each of us decides how far loyalty to Party will take us and reasonable people can draw the line at different places. I understand voting for Trump because he is marginally better than she is, but Trump is my limit. Just because some of us draw the line at voting for Trump, it doesn’t make us better than others but it doesn’t make us worse either. It certainly doesn’t make us quislings, turncoats or arsonists.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  29. apples and oranges, rice was denying an objective fact, a terrorist attack on a diplomatic compound,

    narciso (732bc0)

  30. I wish the post put an equivalent effort into vetting obama. Maybe they would have found he received student aid for foreign students. The democrat ambitions for the presidency would have been short lived.

    Jim (a9b7c7)

  31. It’s not apples and oranges. It’s about how far you will go to win. The Obama Administration doesn’t tolerate anyone who disagrees with the Party line, and Susan Rice was a perfect example of a partisan willing to say anything for her cause.

    Now some here label other conservatives as traitors and arsonists because we disagree with them. How is that not pure partisanship?

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  32. You know what I’m gonna do? I’m gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac El Dorado convertible,
    Hot pink with whaleskin hub caps and all leather cow interior and big brown
    baby seal eyes for headlights, yeah! And I’m gonna drive around in that baby at 115mph getting one mile per gallon, sucking down quarter pounder cheese burgers from
    McDonald’s in the old-fashioned non-biodegradable styrofoam containers and when I’m done sucking down those grease ball burgers, I’m gonna wipe my mouth with the
    American flag and then I’m gonna toss the styrofoam container right out the side and there ain’t a Dash Hamm thing anybody can do about it. YOu know why? Because
    we got the bombs, that’s why.
    [Spoken]
    Two words. Nuclear f#$%ing weapons, okay?! Russia, Germany, Romania – they can have all the Democracy they want. They can have a big democracy cake-walk
    right through the middle of Tiananmen square and it won’t make a lick of difference because we’ve got the bombs, okay?! John Wayne’s not dead – he’s frozen. And as
    soon as we find the cure for cancer we’re gonna thaw out the duke and he’s gonna be pretty pi$$ed off. You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well
    multiple that by 15-million times, that’s how pi$$ed off the Duke’s gonna be. I’m gonna get the Duke and John Cassavetes…
    (Hey)
    and Lee Marvin
    (Hey)
    and Sam Pekinpah
    (Hey)
    And a case of Whiskey and drive down to Texas…
    (Hey, you know you really are an a$$hole)
    Why don’t you just shut-up and sing the song pal!

    Trump’s an a$$hole
    (He’s an a##hole, what an a$$hole)
    Trump’s an a$$hole
    (He’s an a%%hole, what an a$$hole)
    A-$-$-H-O-L-E Everybody!
    A-$-$-H-O-L-E

    And proud of it.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  33. yes i’m aware, but there is little use, about these ponderings,

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/06/29/a_tale_of_trump_texas_and_two_polls_131046.html

    narciso (732bc0)

  34. Reverend Playfair is disappointed that our candidate hasn’t tithed like a Mormon, this any every other year of his existence.

    So we’ll have to concede this election to the socialists. Sorry folks. Help yourself to some of the free carp we have on the table on your way out.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  35. Colonel Haiku, you seem to be under the impression that Democrats can be persuaded by facts, logic, and reason. They can’t. They don’t care what you or Patterico says about their candidate. All they care about is being historic, voting for a vagina, and defeating “evil” Republicans. When you realize that all we’re left with is a need for a candidate that can excite a broad amount of people to vote as well as unite the base then you’ll begin to see what many of us are still trying to warn everyone that Trump will lose big time.

    Sean (221079)

  36. Papertiger That’s a disingenuous statement. The issue is with Trump’s lies and broken promises not his lack of charitable donations.

    Sean (221079)

  37. The Clintons are no strangers to charity. They’ll happily accept it no questions asked from whomever is shoveling it their way.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  38. Now some here label other conservatives as traitors and arsonists because we disagree with them.

    There’s a big difference between disagreeing with fellow Republicans and bad-mouthing the Republican candidate to the benefit of the democrat. If you won’t support the party, leave it. But to deliberately work against is called what? You could be thankful. I was branded “a knowingly lying piece of caca tuckfard” for supporting my party’s candidate.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  39. Trump gave a half a million to elect Romney. Look at all the good will that charity money bought him.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/29/2016 @ 8:02 am

    He also spent money electing Clinton and Reid, and now he’s spending millions to elect Clinton!

    Its almost as if he’s a Democrat!

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  40. I have left the GOP and I rarely comment anymore, Hoagie, because I have nothing positive to say about Trump. But you make a valid point. There is no reason to talk to you or anyone here because you don’t want a discussion. You want a surrender.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  41. Sean4Hillary!, there is no “issue”. His lies and broken promises, say it over and over and over again like we haven’t heard it ten thousand times in the last months. So f*****g what? You don’t like Trump. We get it. It doesn’t change a damn thing. It’s still trump vs. Hillary!. You want Hillary! fine, just keep badmouthing Trump.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  42. I heard its 3,000 for an expedited permit (Lake County, IL). But I hope the caretakers of the fee are more careful with their accounting than Officer Gliniewicz and his wife.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  43. DRJ, I don’t want a “surrender”. I want you guys to face frickin’ reality. Our choice is Trump or Hillary!. If you want to vote for Hillary! go ahead. If you refuse to vote at all and let Hillary! win, go ahead. But for Good God’s sake quit campaigning for Hillary! on a conservative blog. I read enough of that crap on the liberal blogs.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  44. Thre is so much I have refrained from saying about Donald Trump. He is a bully, a blowhard, a liar, and a narcissist. He is a man of low character as evidenced by his serial marriages and the pimping of his then-fiancee nude in a magazine for publiciy. He is a hypocrite who happily supports liberal Democratic policies, and who will say anything for personal gain.

    I could go on but I won’t because I feel sorry for the GOP and for Trump supporters, who know this about Trump but don’t care.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  45. I will not sell my soul to Donald Trump just to stop Hillary.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  46. sean – when Trump made an off hand comment the disingenuous question was asked by Howard Stern, predicated on the stupidity not explicitly expressed but amounting to this.

    Mr. Trump you have too much money and don’t deserve a paycheck from the Apprentice.

    “You’re getting paid over two and-a-half million dollars?,” Stern asked Trump.

    To which Trump answered, “Yeah,” … “But I don’t do it for that, I’m giving the money to charity.”

    From that the Washington comPost extrapolates an oath equivalent to a Teddy Roosevelt saying no third term.

    I interpret Trump’s as meaning, “It (the money) is not the reason I’m doing The Apprentice.”

    Since when did “that guy has too much money so he better give his earnings to charity” become a conservative principle?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  47. Let’s not forget that Trump is Scottish on his mother’s side, and his father was reputed to be a thrifty man as well. 😉

    The WaPo is deep in the tank for Hillary. Trump could discover a cure for cancer and the WaPo headline would be “Trump Shuts Down Hospitals; Thousands Out Of Work”.

    I was impressed, and I mean it sincerely, that he forgave the $50 million he lent his campaign. That’s the same as giving it. He will not get that money back. I thought it a very beau geste. The WaPo managed to downplay that, too. Like the $2.9 million in this story.

    But I’m not anywhere close to wanting to vote for him, yet.

    nk (dbc370)

  48. And I will not sell out conservatism either.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  49. “voting for a vagina cloaca”

    FIFY

    Colonel Haiku (c7ccf8)

  50. In a perfect world, most of what DRJ says would make sense.

    Colonel Haiku (c7ccf8)

  51. nk,

    They claim Trump forgave the loans but there has not yet been a report of a loan forgiveness statement filed with the FEC. Here is Trump’s entry at the FEC. See if you can find it.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  52. In a perfect world, Trump would run against Hillary …but in the Democratic primary. Now that would have been something.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  53. I will not sell my soul to Donald Trump just to stop Hillary.

    If your precious “soul” are more important than seeing to it that a lying, criminal doesn’t become president, then you have no “soul” at all. You’re simply a fool, and a dangerous one at that.

    Horatio (1fb064)

  54. If you look at Trump’s entry at the FEC, it shows loans from the candidate totaling $34.7M. Where does the $50M amount come from?

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  55. Horatio, you may be right. I am often wrong about politics. For instance, I thought Romney would beat Obama. I also think Hillary will be a disaster, but maybe I’m wrong about that, too. But I still have faith in conservatism and personal values, and Trump has neither.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  56. Horatio, the only people worse than Trump are his supporters.

    nk (dbc370)

  57. Maybe Trump loaned the additional $16M to his campaign since the last report that ended 5/31/2016.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  58. pour some sugar on me in the name of love

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  59. please

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  60. This is another characteristic discussion with Trump supporters. Are you sure it’s not a surrender they want, Hoagie? I’m waiting for Clayton to come tell me I might as well enjoy it.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  61. DRJ at 27 and 43: and the self-annointed purists who could not abide Churchill, b/c he had once switched parties, also took their feeble stand, waiting for perfection, like a spinster waiting for “Mr. Right.”

    No, I’m not comparing Trump to Churchill, but am comparing you to the purists from the 30’s: too pure, too good to vote for the choice given. And now they apparently would rather risk multiple USSC appointees by HC, and more because Trump isn’t George Will.

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd (5e0a82)

  62. ohnoes

    George Soros’s sleazy NPR propaganda sluts are worried

    Facebook Shakes Up News Feed, But We Still Don’t Know Exactly How It Works

    It will now prioritize posts from friends and family — potentially bad news for media companies relying on Facebook for traffic. The company has been under pressure to defend its political neutrality.

    […]

    The shake-up in News Feed prioritization is particularly alarming to digital publishers, who have been looking to Facebook and other social media as a new venue for readership. The company’s latest push has been for live broadcasts: Facebook pays leading news organizations, including NPR, to produce live video streams that run on its site.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  63. George Will had a nervous breakdown poor lil pickle-poo

    a phenomenon harvardtrash ted voters are all too sadly familiar with

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  64. You honestly think I oppose Trump because he switched parties, Harcourt?

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  65. no there’s no one to the right of hillary that can be in a primary, as jim webb, so they convened a meeting while the mortars were falling, to strategize why they couldn’t releave the compound,

    narciso (732bc0)

  66. Nate Silver gives Hillary a 79% chance of winning, and Trump a 20% chance. I don’t think the loss of a few Cruz conservatives is responsible for that.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  67. the true conservative candidate is underneath this yellow wallpaper help me free him he wants to come out

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  68. nate bronze, snorfle, seriously,

    narciso (732bc0)

  69. H F Mudd,

    Like Churchill, we conservatives are going to be banished from the political scene for at least 4 years. Voting for Trump won’t change that because he is not a conservative, but maybe it will lessen the damage — or maybe it will make things worse. It’s hard to know what will happen, so I understand why people may decide to vote for him and I certainly don’t criticize them for that choice.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  70. stinkypig will crash up the moon patrol buggy you wait and see

    but Mr. Trump will just hop over the craters!

    advantage: Mr. The Donald

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  71. There are a lot of hard-working, decent people who are desperately afraid of Hillary and 4 more years of the Democrats, so will vote for anyone to stop them. I get it. They are destroying the America we grew up in and attacking the values and beliefs that America was founded on.

    I don’t think Trump will stop that. I think he will continue it and give the GOP an excuse to sign on. We really are on the same side.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  72. he has support on the right, red queen has none, now that she’s teamed up with ruth buzzi, there’s high chance she will go defarge, no I don’t consider useful idiots like boot and company

    narciso (732bc0)

  73. Nate Silver was the most accurate pollster in 2008 and 2012, narciso. He correctly predicted both elections and all but one state.

    DRJ (d18ca6)

  74. but am comparing you to the purists from the 30’s: too pure, too good to vote for the choice given.

    It’s not that I’m too good or too pure, it’s that the choice is so awful that I cannot bring myself to participate in it.

    Chuck Bartowski (8489f0)

  75. What is the point of digging through all the statements he’s made over the years? I think everyone understands that Trump’s not honest. I’m guessing even papertiger understands that.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  76. There are a lot of hard-working, decent people who are desperately afraid of Hillary and 4 more years of the Democrats, so will vote for anyone to stop them. I get it. They are destroying the America we grew up in and attacking the values and beliefs that America was founded on.

    I don’t think Trump will stop that. I think he will continue it and give the GOP an excuse to sign on. We really are on the same side.

    DRJ (d18ca6) — 6/29/2016 @ 12:27 pm

    He won’t stop anything? I agree he won’t stop everything. Even Cruz wouldn’t stop everything. Probably Cruz would stop more than Trump but maybe not much more. Trump will, I believe, reverse Obama’s illegal illegal immigrants policy. I have no idea what Trump would do on Obama’s unisex bathroom orders, transsexuals in the military etc.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  77. 44.I will not sell my soul to Donald Trump just to stop Hillary.
    DRJ (d18ca6) — 6/29/2016 @ 11:26 am

    What are you, a freekin’ drama queen? Nobody’s asking you to sell your soul. They’re asking you to compromise your principles to keep a commie out of the White House. Sometimes life ain’t easy for Patriots. They even gotta do what they don’t like from time to time to keep the enemy out.

    I can’t believe that anyone who has experienced eight years under Obama would even consider letting a chance that Hillary! would be President. That, my friends, is the true definition of insanity.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  78. it’s so completely obvious that Mr. Trump will do better on the presidency than stinkypig

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  79. Trump is far more likely to reverse Obama’s illegal illegal immigrants policy than several of the leading GOP candidates were. For example, Bush said he wouldn’t do it unless Congress voted to reverse it, which would be filibustered. He obviously knew that. Further he would implicitly legalize Obama’s action by requiring Congress to get involved. It’s pretty obvious Bush is in favor of it. My guess is Kasich wouldn’t reverse it either. How many NeverTrumpers wouldn’t vote for Bush or Kasich if one of them were the nominee? And Trump’s as likely to appoint at least somewhat conservative justices to SCOTUS as those two IMO. The courts are doing as much damage to the country as Obama’s direct actions.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  80. I’m really sick of hearing you people whine about Trump. When I was 18 years old I volunteered to fight in Vietnam to stop our enemy, the communists, from stamping the life out of the free people of South Vietnam. God knows I did my best and killed a boat load of them but it wasn’t enough because the people back here refused to support what we were doing. Well, I certainly didn’t go through all that $hit to watch a commie like Hillary! be President. You all don’t want to compromise your principles, or sell your souls, or deal with the devil or whatever your current whine is but you have no idea what these people are like. Hillary! and her followers would kill for power. They live for it. They want, more than anything on God’s green earth to crush the ever-lovin’ Freedom out of America. Every last drop of it. Resistance is futile and will not be tolerated.

    I do so hate you all being so uncomfortable having to vote for a dumbass you don’t like. Boo-hoo you have to vote for Trump. Try crawling through the jungle, pardon me rain forest covered in blood and mud and piss and shit to drag your buddy back. You don’t know the meaning of the word “uncomfortable”. And if voting for Trump is so bad just wait until you have to live under Hillary! and her minions, appointees and followers in every nook and cranny of government, law and the courts.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  81. 80.I’m really sick of hearing you people whine about Trump. When I was 18 years old I volunteered to fight in Vietnam to stop our enemy, the communists, from stamping the life out of the free people of South Vietnam. God knows I did my best and killed a boat load of them but it wasn’t enough because the people back here refused to support what we were doing. Well, I certainly didn’t go through all that $hit to watch a commie like Hillary! be President. You all don’t want to compromise your principles, or sell your souls, or deal with the devil or whatever your current whine is but you have no idea what these people are like. Hillary! and her followers would kill for power. They live for it. They want, more than anything on God’s green earth to crush the ever-lovin’ Freedom out of America. Every last drop of it. Resistance is futile and will not be tolerated.

    I do so hate you all being so uncomfortable having to vote for a dumbass you don’t like. Boo-hoo you have to vote for Trump. Try crawling through the jungle, pardon me rain forest covered in blood and mud and piss and $hit to drag your buddy back. You don’t know the meaning of the word “uncomfortable”. And if voting for Trump is so bad just wait until you have to live under Hillary! and her minions, appointees and followers in every nook and cranny of government, law and the courts.

    Fixed.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  82. trumps job is to kick butt and take names that is why he got more votes, not be a stooge for goldman sachs like ted cruz.

    harold l (83f0df)

  83. I’m sorry if I got a bit out of line. But you guys are treating this as if it were a political contest and it’s not. This is not a mere election. This is a battle between the last remnants of a Free Republic and the future as a socialized state headed towards total collectivism. As leftism moves forward and gains power it also gains momentum, so take everything you hated about Obamas policies and multiply it by ten and you’ll have what Hillary! will do. Do you guys realize they’re already grooming Chelsea for President? Do you understand the as flawed as Trump s ….Hillary….then Chelsea….REALLY?

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  84. they’re so mad cause of how harvardtrash ted and his sacky were rejected

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  85. That last sentence should read:

    Do you understand the as flawed as Trump is ….Hillary….then Chelsea….REALLY?

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  86. Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6) — 6/29/2016 @ 1:18 pm

    Hoagie, I don’t think you were out of line. The Clinton’s enemies dying just before testifying against them? Any of Trumps enemies dying – other than in laughter?

    felipe (6bb3ce)

  87. Trump didn’t give to charity.
    Hillary sat on her hands while four Americans died at Benghazi. She also enabled foreign hackers to access confidential national security information.

    So let’s give Hillary a chance! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  88. Mr. Trump gave just the exact right amount to charity.

    He’s very thoughtful in these matters – he’s a lot like Melinda Gates except not so left-leaning.

    This partly explains why he’s so widely admired.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  89. “… because Trump isn’t George Will.”

    I don’t want George Will as the GOP nominee. I don’t oppose Trump because he’s not George Will. I assure you, I oppose Trump because he’s Donald Trump, and he’s worked hard to earn every bit of my disdain.

    Now we’re at the point in the election cycle when the unprincipled jerkoffs who are attracted to the likes of Donald Trump are angry at those of us who have principles and oppose him.

    Hoagie, you’ve gone over the line into purely offensive territory. You don’t get to decide where my, or DRJ’s, or anyone else’s principles lead us. Sorry to see you become an outright Trump scold; your efforts are wildly counterproductive, I assure you.

    For the regular Trumpkin shills, I’ve long ago stopped caring about you or what you think.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  90. I will not sell my soul to Donald Trump just to stop Hillary.
    DRJ (d18ca6) — 6/29/2016 @ 11:26 am

    And I will not sell out conservatism either.
    DRJ (d18ca6) — 6/29/2016 @ 11:29 am

    — HEAR HEAR!!!

    Icy (3204b7)

  91. I have always been a big proponent of charity. It helps the needy and less fortunate and uplifts the giver as it fills his soul with selflessness. I worked a great deal at my VFW and my own local Civic & Social Club for the poor, the aged, the veterans, the homeless and the elderly shut-ins. Recently I’ve had to give up my hands on volunteer work because of my breathing problems. Nobody wants an old guy with tubes in his nose it seems. Not even as a driver. I also have been cutting back on my monetary donations as was pointed out by Roy, my accountant this past January.

    After reflecting on it I realized I was being influenced by the TV, news and internet. I have always been quite a generous person and (knock on wood) have been lucky to be able to. But I’ve noticed and ever growing feeling that I’m being taken advantage of. Even more. I’m being disrespected by those I was helping. As if it is my duty to do things, an obligation of sorts.

    I’ve paid a ton of taxes all my life and even now with my wife’s salons and other income as well as property taxes I pay a lot out. I have yet to receive one single solitary “Thank You”. Not from any government agency, nor welfare recipient, nor organization involved with the use and distribution of the money they so effectively and efficiently take from me on a regular basis for decades. I didn’t expect one. I also didn’t expect that I would be labeled an enemy of the people because of the income percentile I happen to be in. But I continuously see people on the news that not only think I don’t pay enough taxes but who appear to me as if they would be just as happy killing me and taking it. I’m firmly middle class. I’m no super rich guy like Hillary! and yet her followers would crucify me because I’m in the top 5% of earners even though she’s in the top 2% of the top 1%. Go figure.

    So now I figure they will have to be satisfied with the money the government steals from me. I’m being very choosy where I donate now a days.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  92. meanwhile the quinnipiac poll has them tied,

    buccaneer morgan (732bc0)

  93. Hoagie,

    I have several cousins who served in Vietnam. It was very difficult and I thank you for your service.

    IMO we’ve had a socialist/communist President since 2008 and he was handily re-elected in 2012. That ship has sailed.

    DRJ (15874d)

  94. you don’t have to vote for clinton to be a clinton republican

    mg (31009b)

  95. Those of us who’ve always opposed Trump used, as one of our principal arguments against his candidacy, that he would split the GOP and that he would be unable to consolidate its vote in the fall, handing the election to Hillary.

    Trumpkins didn’t listen. They got a huge, huge assist from Marco Rubio and John Kasich, whose selfishness permitted Trump’s plurality to suffice. So now those exact same Trumpkins they pretend surprise and outrage because Trump can’t consolidate the GOP; the Trumpkin shills begin to panic and become ever more insulting; and as a result, Hillary Clinton seems very nearly certain to sweep to a larger popular and electoral college victory than Reagan over Mondale, possibly larger than Nixon over McGovern.

    I’m just hoping the GOP can hold onto the House. Instead of government by veto, we’ll return to government by stalemate, which is the best that can be hoped for. (Even so, with Scalia’s seat the new POTUS will be unchecked by the SCOTUS, and Obama’s usurpation of authority will look like small potatoes by comparison. By January 2019, the GOP might reclaim the Senate, and by then President Hillary’s high crimes and misdemeanors might be enough to impeach her for — whom, Julian Castro? Whomever, it’ll be a rookie player without the Clintons’ career-long collection of threats and bribes to use to manipulate the levers of national influence and power, someone easier to beat in 2020. That’s now what I think is the realistic best-case scenario.

    After this election, the Trumpkins will slink back into their fever swamp and Trump will go back to infomercials and fourth-rate reality TV. The likes of papertiger and prowlerguy will go away to Free Republic or wherever, and we won’t have to bear their insults and idiocy in public life or the comments of blogs like this.

    And those of us who are life-long conservatives will reclaim the Party. I expect Ted Cruz to be in the front ranks again.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  96. Hoagie, you’ve gone over the line into purely offensive territory. You don’t get to decide where my, or DRJ’s, or anyone else’s principles lead us.

    Where does that come from, Beldar? Where have I ever tried to tell you anything about where your principles should go? I said: “If you want to vote for Hillary! go ahead. If you refuse to vote at all and let Hillary! win, go ahead. But for Good God’s sake quit campaigning for Hillary! on a conservative blog.”. If you interpret that to mean you believe I think I can tell you what your principles are I’m sorry. I know and respect that you can vote for whoever you want all I asked is that you would stop campaigning for a communist.

    You do realize I was never for Trump. But I gotta play the cards I’m dealt because Hillary! is a nightmare of generational proportions. We have had entirely too many Clintons in government. If she wins we will not have a conservative or even a moderate in high office for the rest of our lives and probably the rest of history.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  97. maybe a little narrow a screen,

    https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us06292016_demos_Utwkv93x.pdf

    buccaneer morgan (732bc0)

  98. If the puritanical conservatives think President Trump will be bad, wait until Hillary takes the oath.

    But I think a lot of puritanical conservatives will enjoy a Hillary Administration because it will enable them to have reason to whine and complain.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  99. IMO we’ve had a socialist/communist President since 2008 and he was handily re-elected in 2012. That ship has sailed.
    DRJ (15874d) — 6/29/2016 @ 2:26 pm

    That ship hasn’t hit open sea yet. That’s what I meant by momentum. They had one pinko president. That’s a start, Hillary! gives them momentum. That means for sixteen years about a generation, all these kids know is leftism.

    No DRJ. The ship is in the harbor facing out to sea. Scuttle the bastard before the enemy boards and captures her.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  100. @ Hoagie: Point to a single line or phrase, in the comments on this post or any other recent post, to support your claim that DRJ is “campaigning for Hillary! on [this] conservative blog.”

    Then consider an apology.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  101. When Ryan is voted out –
    Holding on to the house with a new leader is a good thought.

    mg (31009b)

  102. 100.IMO we’ve had a socialist/communist President since 2008 and he was handily re-elected in 2012. That ship has sailed.
    DRJ (15874d) — 6/29/2016 @ 2:26 pm

    That ship hasn’t hit open sea yet. That’s what I meant by momentum. They had one pinko president. That’s a start, Hillary! gives them momentum. That means for sixteen years about a generation, all these kids know is leftism.

    No DRJ. The ship is in the harbor facing out to sea. We need to board and capture her before she hits the open sea.

    Fixed it

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  103. puritanical conservatives
    lmao.

    mg (31009b)

  104. Okay, I corrected everything I saw.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  105. Gerald A,

    Who knows what Trump will do on immigration? Even his staunch public supporters are confused and worried.

    I fear Trump will end up doing whatever Congress wants, which is why the impact of his candidacy on the Senate and House races is so troubling. The GOP was likely to lose the Senate and will almost certainly lose it now, and control of the House could also be in danger. Instead of helping those races, Trump wants the RNC to focus on him and reduce or eliminate funding other races. That is the real insanity, not some random blog commenter refusing to vote for Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  106. Beldar, I get your point. I’m not trying to insult anyone nor make enemies. I apologize. However, I do want you to understand that the constant Trump bashing, especially since we all know exactly what and who the idiot is, has become a continual repetition of noise. And when we are bashing Trump we are not bashing Hillary!.

    Sometimes Beldar, it looks like Vox or Huffpo. And it reads like a Debbie Wassername-Schmutz interview. It’s mind numbing.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  107. stinkypig = summer bummer

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  108. I don’t know what you expect, Hoagie. This is not a Republican blog, it is a conservative blog and the host opposes Trump. He welcomes other views and I’m glad he does, but that includes people like me who agree with him about Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  109. the huffington post, the uber sjw debutante den, tell me another one, as with buzzfeed which practices ‘random acts of journalism’ as rush puts it,

    buccaneer morgan (732bc0)

  110. That this is not a Republican blog, but rather, a Conservative blog, is what brings me back to this site. I suspect this to be true of most of the commentors.

    Since I have started reading and commenting here, first DRJ went Independant, then our Host, perhaps others in silence. It would be inaccurate to say they left the Republican party, when, really, the party left them; I felt it left me many years ago.

    felipe (6bb3ce)

  111. I felt it left me many years ago.

    oh man that’s total summer bummer

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  112. Apparently Pat needs to use shorter words and sentences although pictographs may be in order. The howling histrionics are going to induce Gresham’s Law wrt commenting but howlers would err in believing silence indicates anything to do with consent or approval. I don’t feel any need to declare my voting intentions at the end of June because by November 1st (probably October 1st) there will be great clarity as to the outcome and principled opposition will have played a truly negligible part. IOW – same as usual.

    Rick Ballard (0e6252)

  113. so you’re going to vote for bluntman and chronic, who have nary a negative word to say about zaphod or red queen, you still hold out hope that cruz will take the nomination, what is the point as the consequences of this administrations play out in a bloody motif,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  114. Also, Gerald A, my earlier point about Trump was that he doesn’t support the “values and beliefs that America was founded on.” Things like the Rule of Law, the Constitution, and Christian values. I wasn’t talking about whether Trump will keep his campaign promises such as trying to build the Wall.

    I think he may try to keep some promises, although he didn’t keep his promises to give to charity and his campaign promises are changing everyday. But I fear it will be like his promise to end ObamaCare.

    If you read his website, all Trump promises is “to ask Congress to immediately deliver a full repeal of Obamacare.” That is meaningless. Congress will not repeal ObamaCare if the Democrats control the Senate, and the current map favors that they will. There are things like waivers that Trump could do if he is serious about ending ObamaCare, but he doesn’t mention them. Trump makes promises that appeal to us but he doesn’t say the things that show he means them.

    DRJ (15874d)

  115. actually they understand quite well, rick, if the #willing for hillary crew, succeeed, I think the conclusion is that peaceful political action is useless, and they will resort to more direct behavior,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  116. It’s interesting to read people like hoagie and ‘cruz’ supporter who tell us to say things that are helpful to the cause of politicians getting power, rather than the truth.

    Trump is what he is, and if he wants to be president this scrutiny is part of the deal even and especially if he doesn’t like that.

    He can compliment Mike Tyson into an endorsement, but there are plenty of Americans who aren’t impressed with him. He would suffer a crushing loss against any democrat, even Hillary, one of the weakest they have ever run.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  117. I just love how the people who trash Trump for supporting Hillary in 2008 are actually supporting Hillary in 2016.
    Not a lot of self-awareness going on there. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  118. And I would bet real money that Trump gave the NYPD athletic league that donation as a bribe. It’s weird that he never gives, even to causes he supports, except to Hillary or the cops or other folks who can get him out of a bind or two.

    America can do better (and will).

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  119. I just love how the people who trash Trump for supporting Hillary in 2008 are actually supporting Hillary in 2016.
    Not a lot of self-awareness going on there. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter

    Who? I don’t know any. I think Hillary would be a terrible president and do not want her to be president. It’s clear of course she wouldn’t be as bad as Trump, if they are the nominees, but that’s hardly supporting her.

    Trump saying “Hillary would be a great president” and giving her hundreds of thousands of dollars is real support. If you’re pretending that’s similar to noting the grim reality that Trump is worse than her is the same a supporting her, you are a hack. But then we already knew that (LOLOLOL).

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  120. still not over macho grande, how about chris coon’s asking for advice from the splc, that is defaming traditional catholics, as the source of antisemitism.

    narciso, (732bc0)

  121. 111.That this is not a Republican blog, but rather, a Conservative blog, is what brings me back to this site.

    Since if there ever were conservative democrats there certainly aren’t any today so that’s a distinction without a difference, felipe. I’m about as conservative as one can get and yes, this is a conservative blog. We can all project about who will control the Senate or the House but if Hillary! is President it is all moot. Her coattails will be a mile long and wide enough for six out of nine Justices to sit abreast. She will be the momentum the left needs and that will give them 16 years in the White House. An entire generation. You do the math. Then when all your math is finished, figure in Chelsea who will be campaigning under her mother for eight years.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  122. well even one of two more justice, and adios muchacho, the demographic transformation would be significant and irreversable, as residents of the people’s republic can attest, not to mention a possible dirty war with russia, collapse of the electrical grid thanks to aq or north korea,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  123. the fetuses will love them stinkypig judges Mr. narciso

    nevertrump me first mama the fetuses will say

    adorbs!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  124. Truth?

    The creator in his infinite wisdom salted his works so that where gold was there you would also find rumor, though he decreed just as firm that the opposite wouldn’t always hold.

    Hillary Clinton wouldn’t shy away from telling a lie, and more than one. Nor would she be ignorant in how to circulate those falsehoods without anyone knowing their source.

    Now I hear Trump’s fortunes called muddy, and the current quickened, though I see no change in the creek.
    And Republicans, certain sure that the flood crest fast approaches, begin to think keenly; “I’ll get ahead of the event. Maybe sell my claim at discount.” Anything to unharness so they can head for the higher ground.

    Me, I’m betting the levee will hold.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  125. If Howard Stern asked you over the air how much you make, are you going to answer with full supplicating verity, nothing but the Gospel?

    Time to tell the truth.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  126. I think our negatrumpers suffer from a predispostion, worn like wheel ruts into the brain by the media’s conditioning.

    What can you do. Trump off the cuff and glib on the Stern Show back in 2004 will be morphed into, Trump lied about charity.
    They are trying to create a reality of the man to matched the well rubbed cultural narrative.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  127. i will pray to Lutheran Jesus for them Mr. tiger, that their petulance may lessen and love of country suffuse their hearts

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  128. ABC (Anybody But Clinton)

    You went to school to learn fool
    Things you never, never knew before
    Like “I” before “E” except after “C”
    And why gimps get shown the door
    Now, now, now
    You better wake up
    Teach you, teach you
    All about truth fool
    All about truth
    Sit yourself down, take a seat
    All you gotta do is repeat after me

    A B C
    She’s trash so don’t set her free
    A jail under lock and key
    A B C, 1 2 3
    Doncha set her free
    A B C
    It’s easy as, 1 2 3
    She’s lied and repeatedly
    A B C, 1 2 3
    Use a rope and tree

    Colonel Haiku (c7ccf8)

  129. Clintoon republicans hire cheap illegal labor to clean their toilets. And mow their lawn. Whose the racist?

    mg (31009b)

  130. AS a result of the Brexit, Siemens has frozen new British wind power projects.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/06/28/brexit-siemens-freezes-new-wind-power-projects/
    Something good happened, because the media has been telling me nothing changed.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  131. Of course, global warming triggered the “political tipping point” which led to Brexit and the rise of Trump, according to Joe Romm.
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/06/29/think-progress-global-warming-caused-brexit-and-the-rise-of-trump/

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  132. Remember that story of how global warming was causing cherry trees to bloom earlier? Turns out it was the gradual installation of those super bright LED lights causing the cherries to mistake spring time.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/06/29/remember-that-claim-global-warming-is-causing-cherry-trees-to-bloom-earlier-never-mind-light-pollution-is-likely-the-cause/

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  133. Trump’s an untrustworthy jerk for supporting Hillary in 2008.
    So let’s support her against him in 2016!
    Principles!!! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  134. well he supported guiliani then mccain, even raised money for him,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  135. Democrat Party Platform: Prosecute Those Who Deny Global Warming
    —Ace

    “Not remotely fascist.

    Democratic operatives responsible for creating their party’s platform this year have unanimously adopted a provision calling for the Department of Justice to investigate companies who disagree with Democrats on global warming science.
    A panel of Democrats voted Friday to approve a final draft of the party’s platform to promote “Progressive Democratic Values,” which apparently includes investigating energy companies who “misled” shareholders about global warming.

    I realize many people dislike Donald Trump intensely, but I continue to be baffled by those who obsess over his admittedly enormous flaws while remaining blissfully silent about the flaws of Hillary — or the Democrats’ not-even-hiding-it-any-longer embrace of totalitarianism.”

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/364410.php

    Colonel Haiku (c7ccf8)

  136. you don’t say coronello, well mcconnell was talking up what a wonderful senator, red queen was,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  137. ” She will be the momentum the left needs and that will give them 16 years in the White House.”

    Yep.

    felipe (6bb3ce)

  138. 119 with assist from 120. Chelsea’s gonna feel it good and hard when a significant chunk of that new electorate refuses to vote for a bearer of a Jewish child.

    urbanleftbehind (eac3bd)

  139. Hillary will beat Trump like he was Juanita Broadrick. Or do you think that happyfeet and Perry really are really pro-Trump? Really pro-life? Really conservative? At this point in time, anything that helps Trump become the nominee at the convention helps Hillary become President in November*. Like DRJ said above, if Trumpkins didn’t want Hillary to be President, they should not have voted for Trump.

    *Cue Trumpkins to point out that she will become President in January. Seizing on irrelevancies is what Trumpkins do best.

    nk (dbc370)

  140. This was inevitable, but so good.
    Hitler finds out the UK has voted to leave the EU (YouTube)

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  141. nk… you seem to be one of the few who pay any attention to either happyfeet or perry.

    Anyone happen to notice how Orlando has virtually disappeared off the radar? No discussion… nothing. Wonder why that is. No, I can’t lie, I know exactly why that is.

    Colonel Haiku (c7ccf8)

  142. yes, they burned the trail, as with san bernardino, it’s like a macabre version of ground hog day, it took nine months to go from 15 dead the first time to 160 the second time around in paria,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  143. I really get a kick out of those YouTube vids, papertiger. Thanks.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  144. Mr. Trump is the most awesome stinkypig alternative in America.

    He’s a plum lolly and stinkypig?

    She’s summer bummer!

    And deep down you know it.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  145. Colonel Haiku,

    The old novelty song, “Istanbul (Not Constantinople)” is begging for one of your send-ups.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  146. Hillary sucks!
    Trump swallows!

    nk (dbc370)

  147. you think this election, will be all copacetic after a red queen win,

    https://accordingtohoyt.com/2015/09/16/thoughts-on-the-road-william-lehman/

    narciso, (732bc0)

  148. realize many people dislike Donald Trump intensely, but I continue to be baffled by those who obsess over his admittedly enormous flaws while remaining blissfully silent about the flaws of Hillary — or the Democrats’ not-even-hiding-it-any-longer embrace of totalitarianism.”

    I keep trying to point out to our near sighted friends, Colonel, Hillary! is not tomorrow for the left, Chelsea is. Hillary! is just the next step. They don’t need to hide their “embrace of totalitarianism” (love the term and I’m gonna steal it) they have convinced enough people that WE are the totalitarians. WE are the racists. WE are the homophobes, the bigots and the islamophobes. WE bitterly cling to our guns and Bibles while they welcome “diversity”. Their diversity kills the American culture, but that is good because the American culture is bad. We “didn’t build that”. They have achieved the point where so many Americans are dependent on the government for something nobody can say no to anything.

    Obama got the ball started and he proved he could get reelected regardless of how bad he was or how bad the economy or foreign policy was. That was the test for Hillary! Now she will enter with plans that dwarf Obama. When she plays the Executive Order game it will be LAW! Her Supreme Court will Rule. Our Congress will be like the Senate of Rome under Augustus, nothing more than lapdogs.
    They have TV shows about her (Madam Secretary) and have veiled characters of her in shows and movies. There is not one newspaper not on her team. And FOX stands alone among the TV news shows.

    You think this is politics to these people? This is nothing short of world domination and the fact that no one sees it or if they do don’t believe it makes it all that much more nefarious.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  149. they refuse to understand this, reverend, my family came here because our land was ravaged by a lawyer offering ‘hope and change’ and democracy, one soon found he didn’t care too much about that,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  150. Some get it, Hoagie. Some willfully don’t.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  151. “LIBERALS SAY ISIS IS TO ISLAM WHAT THE KKK IS TO CHRISTIANITY.

    Klan-admirer Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) could not be reached for comment.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/237511/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  152. No, you guys don’t get it. If you really wanted to beat Hillary you’d be frantically searching for an alternative to the Badgerhead. But you just want somebody who hates Muslims. And who will stop the “browning of America”. And what you don’t get is that Trump may talk the talk, but Hillary will take the election from him in a cakewalk.

    nk (dbc370)

  153. 16 other candidates, contested, you want to break mitt out of his glass case, how about john huntsman?

    narciso, (732bc0)

  154. Obama got the ball started and he proved he could get reelected regardless of how bad he was or how bad the economy or foreign policy was. That was the test for Hillary! Now she will enter with plans that dwarf Obama. When she plays the Executive Order game it will be LAW! Her Supreme Court will Rule. Our Congress will be like the Senate of Rome under Augustus, nothing more than lapdogs.

    The problem is this:. Trump will not be any better. Possibly worse, since Congressional Republicans will roll over and play dead for him, but not for Hillary. Do you really want the opposition to presidential powergrabs to be the Democratic Party.

    And she is not a Communist, which is why the real socialists and communists are not flicking to her banner. She is a corrupt authoritarian statist. So is Trump. Main difference is that before 2015 he was paying the bribes, and she was already being paid bribes long before then.

    kishnevi (91d450)

  155. really until the tea party came around, obama got most of what he wanted even after 2010, he got the sequester which devastated defense and intelligence, got new start confirmed, got planned parenthood and robertscare funded, what did they get in return,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  156. she will offer no real resistance to them, the center for american progress, is the 21st century, as the institute for policy studies was in the 20th century,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  157. Barack says that ISIS is losing ground. Hooray, the JV Team just got lucky in Istanbul! Let’s go play golf.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  158. that is defaming traditional catholics, as the source of antisemitism.
    Sorry, narciso, there is a great deal of truth to that. Not all “RadTrads” are anti-Semites, but a large number of them are…much higher percentage than the general population. They charmingly combine both medieval religious and modern racial anti-Semitism.

    kishnevi (91d450)

  159. some are, but the splc will not tag the key expounders of antisemitism, both here and in europe, the left and the islamists, in fact their focus is almost exclusively on those who point the former out,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  160. And what you don’t get is that Trump may talk the talk, but Hillary will take the election from him in a cakewalk.

    nk (dbc370) — 6/29/2016 @ 7:03 pm

    Yeah, and you’ll continue caking your shorts as you dodge teh bullets on the mean streets of Chicago.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  161. I pointed out chris coons contribution, because he was the last beneficiary of this type of campaign btw how did the subsequent race in 2012 end up, that’s what I thought.

    narciso, (732bc0)

  162. You’ll lick them clean for me.

    nk (dbc370)

  163. I’d have to look all through Trumps corporate giving, because for folks who draw a wage or a salary, everything is a personal gift. But for someone who owns dozens of corporations etc, the tax benefits of giving away money a different way may be better than doing so personally.
    The key takeaway should be: Did the money get to the promised destination?, not “what exact, exact exact, vehicle delivered the cash?

    It goes like this: I promise Patterico that I will write a check for $$$$ to charity XYZ.
    I call my people and tell them to make it work out.
    So they look through my various holdings and see where the tax advantage lies and instead of steveg writing the check, it gets cut by my people from SG Holdings NJ LLC.

    Happens all the time.
    I send bills to billionaires for work on their personal homes, they often pay it out of constantly shifting accounts from businesses created to shelter their wealth from liability and what all. I do not care as long as the check cashes. It does not have to say their name on it anywhere and can be untraceable back to them for all I care

    steveg (fed1c9)

  164. Istanbul was Constantinople
    Now it’s fearful, not Constantinople
    Been a long time gone, Constantinople
    Now it’s jihadi delight on an airline flight

    Every gal in Constantinople
    Wears burka and vest, can’t get an eyeful
    So if you’ve a date in Constantinople
    She’ll be in pieces in Istanbul

    Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
    Why it changed can’t say for sure
    wooden shoes held no allure

    So they can have that Constantinople
    No, I won’t go back to Constantinople
    Been a long time gone, Constantinople
    Why did Constantinople take the heat
    With blood Ramadan’s complete

    Istanbul (Istanbul)
    Istanbul (Istanbul)

    Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
    Why they changed it I can’t say
    People just liked it better that way

    Istanbul was Constantinople
    Now it’s Istanbul, not Constantinople
    Been a long time gone, Constantinople
    Why did Constantinople get the works?
    That’s nobody’s business but the Turks

    So take me back to Constantinople
    No, you can’t go back to Constantinople
    Been a long time gone, Constantinople
    Why did Constantinople get the works?
    That’s nobody’s business but the Turks

    Istanbul

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  165. No just no, but it sadly might be the case in 2020: http://www.ozy.com/2016/americas-most-popular-governor-is-a-republican-in-a-liberal-state/66304

    If Rauner can vault a budget past the Madigans, I’d go with that squish instead.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  166. how much of the country, that you still recognize will be left in 2020, this what ‘he’s in over his head’ got us, will we be back to the military at the time of the barbary pirates, with the electrical collapsing that’s to climate curbs, how about the second amendment or the first,

    narciso, (732bc0)

  167. You’ll sweat it off at the bathhouse…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  168. while buzzard feed is traipsing through receipts trying to find a pony,

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-donald-trump-populism-rant/

    narciso, (732bc0)

  169. #165 Colonel Haiku,

    Bravo!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  170. We get it. You want Clinton and the Democrats to win. You can stop now.

    Mr Black (7c41e5)

  171. We get it. You want Clinton and the Democrats to win. You can stop now.

    Mr Black (7c41e5)

    Common lie from Trump’s shills. The only reason Clinton has a shot is Trump. It’s probably too late, but those who supported Trump are 100% responsible for Clinton. Those who simply tell the truth about both of these politicians are the good guys. Those who lie or demand silence on the truth are the ones at fault.

    Patterico has explained he just doesn’t care one way or the other. You can either have Hillary or Trump who said Hillary would be great and has been 100% on board with her corruption, putting his money where his mouth is and supporting her presidential aspirations. Personally I think Hillary and Trump are the same politically, but Trump is worse on mental health, class, and temperament, and because I love my country I have to admit he’s more dangerous to it.

    Thanks, Mr Black, for giving Hillary her only path to the white house. Great job, sport.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  172. DRJ was right, as she usually is. On the forgiveness of his campaign debt, Trump so far has been all talk and no action. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/after-saying-he-forgave-loans-campaign-trump-won-t-release-n601596

    Say what? Trump all talk and no action? Quelle surprise! And the amount has gone down from $50 million to $45 million. “The art of the deal”, all y’all. Or, “Promise her anything but give her Arpege bupkis.”

    nk (dbc370)

  173. That’s the amount talked about that’s gone down from $50 million to $45 million. Zero has been forgiven. Trump’s Scottish-German soul could not bear to forgive even an imaginary $5 million? 😉

    nk (dbc370)

  174. Those of us who’ve always opposed Trump used, as one of our principal arguments against his candidacy, that he would split the GOP and that he would be unable to consolidate its vote in the fall, handing the election to Hillary.

    using a self fulfilling prophecy as evidence is the tactic used by global warmers. First they predict global warming will cause forest fires, based on no evidence, then wait for the psychotics and vermin that populate their political movement to set a few of the predicted fires, then they point at the arson and say “Look! See! Glory and hosannah’s to Al Gore.”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  175. That’s the amount talked about that’s gone down from $50 million to $45 million. Zero has been forgiven. Trump’s Scottish-German soul could not bear to forgive even an imaginary $5 million? 😉

    First I heard about Trump forgiving his own loan, (which is political jargon for Trump self financing his campaign as he promised from the start) was the comment from nk above.

    And the news seemed to have shook the squirrels out of NK’s tree, be it temporarily.

    Now think of that bit of news’ impact.
    You think the ABC, CBS, NYT, WaPo, NBC, PBS, Clinton News Conglomerate will spend so much as the lead in to commercial break to give it air?

    Not just no, but hell to their mercenary desicated hearts no.

    SO how do you get the word out? By letting NBC,CBS,ABC,NYT,WaPo, PBS DEMAND to see the evidence of what you wanted them to show in the first place.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  176. I already thought of that, papertiger. And you know what? Chrissie Hynes thought of it in 1980.

    ‘Cause I gonna make you see
    There’s nobody else here
    No one like me
    I’m special so special
    I gotta have some of your attention give it to me

    Trump wants attention more than an Eskimo wants a fur coat.

    nk (dbc370)

  177. Copping from the best in my opinion.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  178. So, the election will be between Hillary or Trump. Cruz won’t be running. Reagan won’t be on the ballot, either.

    Trump isn’t perfect, right, got it. We’re gonna get Hillary or Trump. Those are the choices. Those are the ONLY possibilities.
    Working against Trump is working for Hillary.
    Working against Hillary is working for Trump.
    Working for Cruz or {Pure Conservative to be named later} is just pissing down your own leg and saying that it’s raining.
    But, yeah, if your principles require it, you’ll be the guy with the smelly leg.

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  179. Trump isn’t perfect, right, got it.

    Dishonest way of saying it, no? Like saying Hillary isn’t perfect.

    The problem is that Trump supports Hillary and her politics, but is even worse than her when it comes to temperament and sleaze, and also instead of the right fighting corruption, the right would be led by a corrupt democrat.

    So no, it’s not about purity and perfection.

    Working for Cruz or {Pure Conservative to be named later} is just pissing down your own leg and saying that it’s raining.

    Not really. It’s Trump’s hacks who are deluding themselves. At the same time you’re spazzing out about Hillary you are demanding we support someone who thinks Hillary would be a great president, and donated to her instead of worthy causes. If Hillary is so bad then why on earth would you support Hillary’s BFF?

    Many of us realize that the difference between Trump and Hillary is pretty minor and this election doesn’t mean anything, and we really don’t need to betray integrity for nothing.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  180. Dustin raises a good point.
    If supporting Hillary was a bad idea in 2008, then it’s also a bad idea in 2016.
    I totally agree!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  181. Dustin raises a good point.
    If supporting Hillary was a bad idea in 2008, then it’s also a bad idea in 2016.
    I totally agree!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a

    You don’t enjoy a reputation for good faith here. This comment is an excellent example as to why.

    Trump said Hillary would be a great president and gave her and her family enormous amounts of money, included the Clintons in his family’s intimate occasions, and boasted about how this gave him connections as a crony.

    I said Hillary would be a terrible president, but so would Trump and in many ways Trump seems worse, particularly because the ‘conservative’ movement being taken over by a Clinton fan is much worse than the conservative movement opposing the clintons.

    You have found a childish way of saying these two things are the same even after I’ve used smaller words and simpler language to make sure you understand. Because you are a hack.

    There are democrats on MSNBC who trashed Dubya but had he been a democrat would have shilled for him. There are republicans on this blog who trash Hillary, but if she had the (R) would shill for her. Trump is proof, and you’re one of the hacks.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  182. Dustin, if you feel you need to engage in name-calling, that’s cool.
    You keep making a big deal out of supporting Hillary in 2008.
    But you’re supporting Hillary in 2016, right?
    Trump’s not.
    Neither am I.

    Would have loved for Cruz, Rubio, Fiorina, Jindal, or Walker to be the nominee. But they all got their butts kicked.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  183. Vichy #PathForHillary -ites are your work done here?

    Colonel Haiku (32652f)

  184. Ford,Dole,Juan, Mittens combined never stood up for conservatives as much as Trump has in going after the media or the clinton mob.
    Stick it deep elite.

    mg (31009b)

  185. Music video by Denis Leary performing A$$hole (YouTube)

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  186. I work is done here.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  187. Dustin, you really have to stop with the goofy “anybody whose got an ‘R’ next to their name!!!” mantra.

    Hillary could never win a GOP primary with an ‘R’ next to her name.
    Neither could Barack.
    So please stop with the weak analogy, eh?

    Trump didn’t just “put” an ‘R’ next to his name.
    Rather, he is the nominee because he ran the gauntlet. That is how you get to become the nominee on the general election ballot with an ‘R’ next to your name.
    I prefer Cruz, Rubio, Fiorina, Jindal, and Walker, but that’s not what the people wanted. But Trump’s still better than Hillary.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  188. Gerald A,

    Who knows what Trump will do on immigration? Even his staunch public supporters are confused and worried.

    DRJ (15874d) — 6/29/2016 @ 2:52 pm

    That article has to do with possible Trump backpedaling on mass deportations and banning Muslims. I didn’t mention either of those things. I said Trump’s far more likely to reverse Obama’s illegal illegal immigration order.

    I’ve never thought it likely he would do the mass deportations. I think I recall trying to convince a Trumper who thought that was really important that that was just talk, back when Cruz was still in the running. I doubt he’d actually ban all Muslims either, although it would be very easy to ban immigration from predominantly Muslim countries, and he might do something along those lines.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  189. Also, Gerald A, my earlier point about Trump was that he doesn’t support the “values and beliefs that America was founded on.” Things like the Rule of Law, the Constitution, and Christian values. I wasn’t talking about whether Trump will keep his campaign promises such as trying to build the Wall.

    DRJ (15874d) — 6/29/2016 @ 3:31 pm

    As I said, I think Trump will appoint judges who would preserve the Bill of Rights. As to whether he actually believes in the Constitution, maybe not, but as long as he appoints judges who do, I can live with that.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  190. I said Trump’s far more likely to reverse Obama’s illegal illegal immigration order.

    What I meant to say was:

    Trump is far more likely to reverse Obama’s illegal illegal immigrants policy than several of the leading GOP candidates were.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  191. Hillary could never win a GOP primary with an ‘R’ next to her name.

    She could if she ran under the name “Donald Trump”. And she did.

    nk (dbc370)

  192. Jane you ignorant slut.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  193. I don’t think a President Trump will keep any of his campaign promises. I know PIAPS will keep her promises.

    I hope there is really bad karma for those who gave us Trump.

    jkstewart2 (aad04b)


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