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6/20/2016

Trump Campaign Essentially Broke

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:35 pm

FEC reporting deadlines were today, and Trump’s financials are historically disastrous:

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Look at that “cash on hand” number — barely over $1MM. And Trump raised $3.1MM in May. Now let me give you some context for how jaw-droppingly low those numbers are. Here is Trump compared to Hillary:

Ted Cruz has almost 4 times more cash on hand:

Trump’s cash on hand is less than that held by 50 House candidates:

As for that paltry $3.1MM amount raised in May, let’s compare it to the amounts raised by past candidates in comparable time periods:

If Trump were truly worth $10 billion, it should be easy to sell some stuff, so as to more than equalize this deficit. But, of course, I have told you for months that he is not worth $10 billion or anything close to it. It’s just another con by a con artist.

If I were someone who cared about Trump winning, I’d be panicking right about now. But then, if I were a committed Trumpkin (not a reluctant “lesser of two evils” voter), I’d be oblivious to facts, logic, and evidence, and would think:

This is fine.

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223 Responses to “Trump Campaign Essentially Broke”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. Ex-Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, quoted today as he groveled praised his ex-boss:

    And even when he [Trump] gives a great policy speech, and he’s probably the best speaker that, you know, our country has ever seen as a presidential candidate, he doesn’t get credit for those things.

    Yes, who could ever forget the address Trump gave at Gettysburg?

    FOURSCORE and seven years ago, our fathers — and also, our mothers. I love mothers, too, because we need our mothers — brought forth on this continent a huge nation, a great, amazing country dedicated to the proposition that we can beat any weak losers who are bad, bad guys and totally overrated, believe me.

    Now, it just so happens we are in a horrible, stupid war. They’re killing us. Just killing us. I would sue for peace, because when I sue I never settle, but if it had been up to me we never would have been here to begin with. I would have negotiated, and I wouldn’t have risked the country over a few slaves, who some of them might be good people — I had some nice African-American ladies working for me, and they were very dependable ladies — but it’s dumb to risk the whole country for political correctness. It really is. The blacks love me, by the way. Frederick Douglass has been to my house.

    So, here we are in front of you beautiful people of Gettysburg, and you are a very good-looking group of people. You know, I went to business school near here so I know Pennsylvania, believe me. I love the people of Gettysburg, and I can tell you are embarrassed about what our country has become.

    Do you see these Amish people buggying around with their very unattractive women in their sad outfits? Please, who would even date these women? ….

    Beldar (fa637a)

  3. But. But. But Pat? He’s worth TEN BILLION DOLLARS!!!

    Just ask any of his real estate fraud victims.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  4. I’m okay with the events that are unfolding currently.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  5. I continue to think Trump is a walking scam designed to put HRC in office. He is so inept and out of his depth.

    Simon Jester (9b406a)

  6. We could have had President Cruz, President Rubio, President Fiorina, President Jindal, or President Walker, but instead we’re going to have President Hillary.
    It’s going to be awesome.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  7. have you compared filings month to month, or is this the big shiny moment,

    narciso (732bc0)

  8. I am OK with my fate as long as the people voting for Trump are willing to admit he is a very flawed man who under any other circumstances should not be put in charge of a naval station let alone a country.

    I am not OK with people who demand I commit myself to the idea he is is Suzanne Somers in the T-Bird in American Graffiti. The most perfect creature ever.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8TDBSlgFAw

    “Quick, hang a right.”

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  9. It would have been different with Cruz?

    I’d like to think this is a common trait to both Trump and Cruz, refusing special interest money.

    Not being bought out [redacted], trading favors like so many Reids.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  10. have you compared filings month to month, or is this the big shiny moment,

    This is the moment when we see what he has done since clinching the nomination.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  11. Mr. Trump’s gonna beat the nasty old woman really bad to where people are gonna be like wow she got spanked in the stank

    happyfeet (831175)

  12. Lord knows I am no Trumpist, but if Trump runs the sort of campaign he said he would, with less reliance on ads and more reliance on the Impact of His Glorious Person In Person, lack of cash is less important. He’s probably expecting the lapdogs–er, the RNC–to pick up much of the slack and actual expenditures at this point are low. How much does it cost to vet a VP pick? And he doesn’t need to sell or mortgage anything until it is time to spend the money.

    It would be interesting to see, if he does sell stuff, who the buyers are. An actual business deal or someone making a large disguised donation?

    kishnevi (22ac03)

  13. well lets compare how candidates did in the previous quarter,

    http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=P60006111&tabIndex=1

    narciso (732bc0)

  14. or another candidate, who followed the consultant’s advice,

    http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=C00458844&tabIndex=1

    narciso (732bc0)

  15. Mr. Trump’s gonna beat the nasty old woman really bad to where people are gonna be like wow she got spanked in the stank

    happyfeet (831175) — 6/20/2016 @ 8:05 pm

    I’ve concluded he’ll be saying this on election eve with polls showing him trailing by double digits.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  16. It would have been different with Cruz?

    I’d like to think this is a common trait to both Trump and Cruz, refusing special interest money.

    Not being bought out [redacted], trading favors like so many Reids.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/20/2016 @ 8:03 pm

    Cruz raised lots of money for the primaries.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  17. And a classic car too, Steve57 (#8) (although I thought her career went downhill from there).

    Beldar (fa637a)

  18. the double digits were outliers, but whatever keeps you warm at night,

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    narciso (732bc0)

  19. Cruz raised lots of money for the primaries.

    Gerald A (76f251) — 6/20/2016 @ 8:18 pm

    I see narciso already covered that in #13.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  20. he’s a plum lolly Mr. A, that’s who Mr. Trump is

    heaven’s light is shining on him and through him, and it’s a glory and a wonder

    it truly is

    happyfeet (831175)

  21. Is it too much to ask for little respect?

    Yes, after I have been skull f***ed by a murderous horde of wasps I may be persuaded to think, “By golly, this just could be the one.”

    Just not there yet.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  22. The worst part to me is that Hillary’s favorables/unfavorables are almost 15 points better than Trump’s, and she hasn’t consolidated her supporters yet so her numbers can get better. She and her PACS will flood the air with anti-Trump ads (to which he can’t respond because he has no money), his will only get worse.

    DRJ (15874d)

  23. I can’t wait until Hillary gets to nominate a few Justices to lifetime appointments on the Supreme Court. I bet they’ll all be in favor of the 2nd Amendment. Or maybe not. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  24. For me the interesting part of the poll is the Libertarian/Green figures.

    Johnson seems to take votes equally from Trump and Clinton in a three way race. The Greens in a four-way race take mostly from the Libertarian vote, with little or no impact on either Trump or Clinton.

    kishnevi (22ac03)

  25. so mnechin couldn’t tap too many of his hollywood pals, that’s the takeaway,

    narciso (732bc0)

  26. well that suggests the libertarians are as doctrinaire as bill maher, about economic liberty,

    narciso (732bc0)

  27. I think you’re wrong, Beldar, and thank you, thighmaster.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  28. I agree it’s sad to think of what Hillary will do to the Court, Cruz Supporter. Too bad the Trump supporters didn’t think of that before they voted for Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  29. 26
    I disagree. I think it means Johnson is the NOTA vote for both left and right…and when presented with the Greens, the NOTA left follows its natural inclination.

    kishnevi (22ac03)

  30. DRJ,

    The sad thing is that Trump probably just got into the race to increase his profile for his various business ventures. I doubt he had expectations of actually winning the nomination, as we’re seeing by his mind-numbing general election campaign.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  31. lets remember the bangup job, libertarians have done in the montana senate race, for instance,

    narciso (732bc0)

  32. Did it bother anyone besides me how Daniel Craig abused his rifle in Skyfall?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqWsbYiDh7U

    James Bond’s new double rifle – the .500 Nitro Express by Anderson Wheeler

    A man who would treat his rifle like that has no religion.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  33. ditto he says he doesn’t like guns, he can’t even feign interest in them, I thought he looked too russian for the part, or at least like the south african he played in munich,

    narciso (732bc0)

  34. @ steve57 (#27): Perhaps it would have been more gentlemanly of me to say that Ms. Somers was at her most fetching, in my opinion, in that scene in that movie, which I agree is classic. Some might say she was even coquettish in that scene. Her later career was indeed memorable, like so many of the other actors in that movie, and she will always be revered in “purported exercise junk sold-on-TV” history.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  35. Jeezus, Beldar, all I was saying was let’s not turn Suzanne Somers into Trump.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  36. Hmmm … it’s almost like he doesn’t want to win …

    Libby (1208f9)

  37. Bet you Gary Johnson has more.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  38. Hmmm … it’s almost like he doesn’t want to win …

    Every morning BIll Clinton wakes up and laughs uncontrollably when he remembers this is real and not a dream. His little Don Segretti operation has worked beyond all expectations and he just has to PINCH himself as he toodles of to the shower.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  39. That may well be true, Cruz Supporter.

    DRJ (15874d)

  40. I’ll just leave this here, call it a marker, or ignore it all together…

    Trump will quit the race after he’s awarded the nomination at the convention, not before. He obviously has no true desire to be President and has done all of this just to stroke his sizable ego, and that same ego can’t take getting out before he’s handed what he feels he’s entitled to—the nomination. Following his coronation he’ll find some reason to drop out, probably a health scare or more likely blaming the GOP, saying he was sabotaged or some such nonsense, so as not to look like a quitter and sate the passions of his horde.

    It’s going to be fun living though the next 4 years.

    Sean (221079)

  41. It would have been different with Cruz?

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/20/2016 @ 8:03 pm

    Which part? You mean the having a grasp of the issues part, or not making off-the-cuff remarks he’ll have to retract within the day part?

    L.N. Smithee (e92da8)

  42. Trump will quit the race after he’s awarded the nomination at the convention, not before. He obviously has no true desire to be President and has done all of this just to stroke his sizable ego, and that same ego can’t take getting out before he’s handed what he feels he’s entitled to—the nomination. Following his coronation he’ll find some reason to drop out, probably a health scare or more likely blaming the GOP, saying he was sabotaged or some such nonsense, so as not to look like a quitter and sate the passions of his horde.

    You mean he’ll make Ross Perot look rational and sane by comparison?

    JVW (eabb2a)

  43. Sean is right. Speaking of Sean, when the Cheeto throws in his chips, Hannity, Coulter, Ingraham and a bunch of others are gonna be done. I can’t wait, although I’m saddened that Ingraham got so stupid.

    ocean (38f70a)

  44. Which sean? Sean of the dead?

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  45. I think Suzanne’s best role was her first – on Ben Casey, MD. She was 16 and excellently portrayed a troubled teen.

    DJT supposedly has only 28 paid campaign staff. Not counting Hannity.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  46. Paul Ryan is a muzzie luvin, American hating republican.
    fry this toad.

    mg (31009b)

  47. Is his son-in-law on salary?
    Other relatives?
    Is his campaign now paying for his planes?
    Other “related expenses”?
    Is the Trump campaign a variant of the Clinton foundation?

    nk (dbc370)

  48. Trump’s not Ryan’s.

    nk (dbc370)

  49. Remind me, how much money did all the non-Trump candidates spend and how much did Trump spend and who exactly won the nomination with a huge haul of votes? Trump does things differently, and wins. You’re stuck in the old groove, unable to see your way out. It’s sad, and says a great deal about your worth as a political observer.

    Mr Black (7c41e5)

  50. Fourteen million votes is a long way from the 65 million he’ll need to win the general. Thank God!

    nk (dbc370)

  51. Comache, the horse who came up after the Sioux.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche_%28horse%29

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  52. Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game is a book by Michael Lewis, published in 2003, about the Oakland Athletics baseball team and its general manager Billy Beane.

    Moneyball is a quest for the secret of success in baseball. Following the low-budget Oakland Athletics, their larger-than-life general manger, Billy Beane, and the strange brotherhood of amateur baseball enthusiasts, Michael Lewis has written not only “the single most influential baseball book ever” (Rob Neyer, Slate) but also what “may be the best book ever written on business” (Weekly Standard).

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  53. the for reals headline should be Trump Campaign Essentially AWESOME!

    cause it’s the best campaign going right now is why

    it’s the campaign what will help America move forward again and just for that one reason it’s a very splendid campaign

    happyfeet (831175)

  54. Trump will need a white knight with a multi-state political infrastructure to bail out his candidacy – just as every business he started needed a white knight to take over after the bankruptcy.

    Trump the nations most successful Bankrupt, is trying the same thing in the political arena.

    Steve Malynn (4bc33a)

  55. I expected Trump to crater. I didn’t expect him to crater on the taxiway.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  56. don’t you worry about Mr. Trump he’s a good alternative!

    this is obvious to anyone who is willing to do the analysis

    happyfeet (831175)

  57. 33. D. Craig looking Russian fits into my theory of only 1 true Bond (Connery/Lazenby). Roger Moore and Timothy Dalton were 2 separate first cousins. Brosnan is his son from a local woman in Britain, whereas Craig was the product from a Russian spy. The Idris Elba rumors dudnt bother me, but I would think black James Bond (born in New Orleans c. 1973, made in Love and let die or from Moore-grace Jones or Brosnan-Berry) under my theory would look more “light”.

    urbanleftbehind (7c0fea)

  58. “so mnechin couldn’t tap too many of his hollywood pals, that’s the takeaway,”

    Hardly. People capable of generating enough money to make significant donations simply aren’t at the level of intelligence required to support Trump with more than a derisive smile. Their message is “Call.” in the sure and certain knowledge he will fold. The upside of Trump’s manifest political incompetence is that he has yet to reach the dollar amount of fraud he achieved with Trump U. He hasn’t really made a pitch rattling his beggar’s cup yet so he may well succeed in exceeding his previous personal best.

    Rick Ballard (534b65)

  59. Happyfeet, Trump is a con man running a short con. You are a mark and the kissoff is weeks away.

    SPQR (a21c80)

  60. #28 … let me fix that for you sanctimonious blow hards …

    I agree it’s sad to think of what Hillary will do to the Court, Cruz Supporter. Too bad the Cruz supporters didn’t think of that before they voted for Cruz.

    … cuz Cruz was not beating Hillary in a conventional political war.

    So sad but it does expose all sides of the (R) Party — one seething madhouse (Trump) and the other uber alles d-bags (Cruz) with a few poontang cowards scared of their shadows (Bush).

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  61. #6 …. We could have had President Cruz, President Rubio, President Fiorina, President Jindal, or President Walker, but instead we’re going to have President Hillary. It’s going to be awesome. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 6/20/2016 @ 8:02 pm

    I agree but here is the problem with respect to that viewpoint ion this website …. so enamored with Cruz they vilified the other candidates.

    So to quote wise people without law degrees and advanced degrees in hypocritical stupidity — “dats what you git m-fer.”

    Blame yourselves for being dogmatic in Candidate choice and blame the Party for encouraging it..

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  62. that sounds very disappointing Mr. SPQR

    fortunately though Mr. Trump’s got a rocket in his pocket!

    happyfeet (831175)

  63. This actually is fine, or almost fine. This doesn’t mean too much. Trump’s camaign is broke like the way Bill and Hillary Clinton were broke the day they left the White House.

    The Trump campaign has always been cash poor. Trump only transferred money to the campaign as needed (and a lot of it was to pay himself or companies he was already paying privately)

    Trump paid himself, or his companies, rent, and he paid the company that maintains his private airplane.

    And the money he gave to his campaign always was in form of loans so in case a lot of contributions came in, he could pay himself back.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  64. How bad is Trump’s fundraising? (It’s like the worst “How bad …” joke.) He almost came in fourth for the quarter:

    How bad was Trump’s May fundraising effort? Well, let’s put it this way. The Indiana primary was the third day of May. On that day, Ted Cruz suspended his campaign and ceased fundraising operations. Trump, on the other hand, effectively sewed up the nomination on that day and proceeded to have a unity bounce in the polling, accompanied by a joint fundraising effort with the RNC and the endorsement of most Republican politicians.

    In spite of that, Donald Trump got outraised by Hillary Clinton by a margin of over 10-to-1 in May. He also got clobbered by Bernie Sanders. But for the true indication of how bad Trump’s fundraising totals were for May, you need to understand that Trump almost finished fourth behind Ted Cruz for May fundraising totals.

    Who will give to Trump now but the truest believers? Even Trump would be hard-pressed to liquidate assets for this fiasco.

    DRJ (15874d)

  65. It was so bad that this deserves its own comment, in bold:

    That’s right. Ted Cruz spent a grand total of two and a half days collecting funds in May, and pulled in a total of about $2.6 million dollars. Trump spent the whole month fundraising, part of which was with the help of the RNC, and took in.. just over $3.1 million dollars.

    DRJ (15874d)

  66. kishnevi (22ac03) — 6/20/2016 @ 8:05 pm

    It would be interesting to see, if he does sell stuff, who the buyers are. An actual business deal or someone making a large disguised donation?

    It would have to be the latter, because Trump would hold out for the best deal on the piece of property he cared about the least.

    More honest would be a mortgage, but even there, there’s a problem.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  67. And the only way for Trump to divert the media’s attention from this was to fire Lewandowski.

    I’ve seen it reported that Trump has 69 national campaign employees — people who are probably wondering if they will be next and, if not, where the money will come from to pay them.

    DRJ (15874d)

  68. DRJ (15874d) — 6/21/2016 @ 7:01 am

    Who will give to Trump now but the truest believers? Even Trump would be hard-pressed to liquidate assets for this fiasco.

    He could always sell something to somebody in Russia close to the Russian government. (who would get special permission to invest abroad, because Putin doesn’t want people close to him doing this any more. In fact he wants them to pull their money back because othrwise they’ll fear sanctions and being cut off from their cash, and they’ll have money also free from him.)

    I don’t really expect this to happen, unless Trump is desperate for cash.

    Trump is very poor at, and not interested in, fund raising. He was given a list of 20 people to call, it was reported, and gave up after calling three of them. Nowadays political consultants have politicians call person after person, for hours and days, because they found out that when a person gets a telephone call from the candidate himself, he or she is much more likely to donate money, and more of it.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  69. ding dong what’s that smell

    oh dear god it’s hillatrine someone open a window

    happyfeet (831175)

  70. Hope you like a 7-3 liberal SCOTUS that Hillary will provide.

    cedarhill (d594c4)

  71. Craig as Tatiana romanova’s.

    narciso (732bc0)

  72. Hillary will be awful but selecting Trump is what made it possible for her to win, cedarhill. Choices have consequences and this choice has terrible consequences.

    DRJ (15874d)

  73. 47. nk (dbc370) — 6/21/2016 @ 1:03 am

    Is his son-in-law on salary?
    Other relatives?

    Probably, but from his private companies.

    Is his campaign now paying for his planes?

    It has to legally. That was probably his biggest campaign expense. The use of his plane for politics has to be accounted for as a campiagn expense. If somebody else let him use his plane, it would be considered a campiagn contribution, and would illegal pretty quickly, if he wasn’t billed. Trump’s plane is managed by some private company. It now, I think, divides use between personal and campaign, and Trump, instead of paying it all from his personal funds, as before, lends (not donates) money to his campaign to pay the campaign’s share.

    He also has to pay a lot of rent to himself, even for rooms or offices that would otherwise remain vacant.

    There’s a lot of money going from Donald Trump’s left pocket to his right pocket through his campaign. Federal campaign accounting rules require it.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  74. Is the Trump campaign a variant of the Clinton foundation?

    The ultimate source of the money, is probably not, at this point, unlike maybe with the Clintons, foreign powers or people seeking favors, but who knows? You’d need to audit Donald Trump’s personal accounts to know where he is getting his income from. He’d have to disclose all of that – to someone – if he were running for vice president, but since he’s running for president, he doesn’t have to disclose it to anyone, except his accountants, his lawyers, and the IRS.

    He does have to disclose a limited amount of information in filings with the FEC.

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-files-personal-financial-disclosure-form-with-the-federal-e

    The newly filed PFD shows a tremendous cash flow, and a revenue increase of approximately $190 million dollars (which does not include dividends, interest, capital gains, rents and royalties). This income was utilized, among other things, for the funding of construction projects at various multi-million dollar developments, reduction of debt and the funding of the campaign.

    That’s from the press release from the Trump campaign.

    It’ll take some more hunting to find the actual public disclosure itself.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  75. I bet Trump donated to Hillary again. He’s worth forty zillion dollars, so another donation from Trump to Hillary would probably be huge.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  76. More honest would be a mortgage, but even there, there’s a problem.

    Yes. As in who would lend money to a man who has gone bankrupt four time, who wants to use that money on a project you know is likely to fail?

    kishnevi (413847)

  77. Hope you like a 7-3 liberal SCOTUS that Hillary will provide.

    cedarhill (d594c4)

    Yeah, no kidding. Thanks, Trump fans, for giving the country Hillary. Any other GOP guy would have wiped the floor with her, but Trump doesn’t even want to win. He has hired almost no staff, raised almost no money, aired no ads, and keeps saying he doesn’t want our support. How hard is this mystery to figure out? He even said Hillary would be a great president.

    Suckers.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  78. 22. DRJ (15874d) — 6/20/2016 @ 8:57 pm

    The worst part to me is that Hillary’s favorables/unfavorables are almost 15 points better than Trump’s,

    This is entirely due to the low information black and Hispanic voters. Otherwise, her unfavorable rating would be in the high 60’s and Trump’s in the high 50s. Or at least before the last week, when Trump’s overall unfavorable rating shot up to 70% in one poll, probably due to his attempt to blame a judge’s supposed bias for the fact, so far, he didn’t win a lawsuit that accuses him of fraud.

    She and her PACS will flood the air with anti-Trump ads (to which he can’t respond because he has no money

    It’s not only that Hillary may have money for ads – Trump hasn’t reserved any air time, although there’s probably enough available, and no need to rush. In the past, campaigns have sometimes gotten squeezed out of airtime.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  79. @kishnevi. There’s a difference bwteen a construction loan, and a loan on a building that is already built, and owned by Trump freee and clear (which maybe there aren’t too many)

    The problem is that anyone who offers too good terms, or places too high avalue on the building, could be suspected of currying favor with Trump. It’s not like the buildings are traded on the stock market. The loans to Ted Cruz, on tradeable securities, were probably no conflict. (but Cruz lied about selling all his assets. He didn’t, to avoid payng capital gains taxes for one thing.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  80. 75. Dustin (2a8be7) — 6/21/2016 @ 7:45 am

    I bet Trump donated to Hillary again. He’s worth forty zillion dollars, so another donation from Trump to Hillary would probably be huge.

    he could donate to a PAC, but I kind of doubt that. It might even have to be made public.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  81. Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/20/2016 @ 10:01 pm

    Every morning BIll Clinton wakes up and laughs uncontrollably when he remembers this is real and not a dream. His little Don Segretti operation has worked beyond all expectations..

    You mean like the National Enquirer story about Ted Cruz’s mistresses, or about Rafael Cruz having known Lee Harvey Oswald?

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  82. The only way out for Trump is for him to magnanimously bow out now, saying that it is clear that he is unable to unify the party and it is imperative that Hillary not become president, so he is withdrawing and releasing his delegates.

    It makes the Party (and Priebus, in particular) look like chumps, and the Trump voters will be furious with everyone but themselves, but it allows the party to pick someone who stands a chance of getting some of Trump’s support.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  83. Of course, if the party dumps Trump and all the Trumpistas start saying how they won’t vote for X, we can always claim that this means they want Hillary to appoint judges, yada yada yada. And they’ll probably claim that X isn’t a real conservative like Trump, blah blah blah.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  84. Sammy,

    You need to learn to tell the difference between statements of fact and things like metaphor, satire and sarcasm. It will help you pass Turing tests in the future.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  85. kishnevi,

    There is no reason to believe any Trump property is not already hocked above value and no reason to believe lenders have not already fenced the fraud with restrictive loan covenants. He has plenty of liquid assets listed, Deutsche Bank and JPM just aren’t dumb enough to give him access to them.

    Rick Ballard (534b65)

  86. Trump has been dancing around the edges of running for President since the 1990s. Look it up, check out some of his old interviews that they are reprinting.

    It’s just false to say that it’s a fake.

    Ingot (65475f)

  87. Trump has been dancing around the edges of running for President since the 1990s

    Still is.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  88. Trump has been using Presidential campaigns for years to inflate his public persona. Thus year it succeeded beyond anyone’s wildest expectations, probably even his.

    DRJ (15874d)

  89. Hillary inflates her stinky pig for years

    happyfeet (831175)

  90. Ingot,

    Trump isn’t spending what little money he has on advertising, setting up a staff, rearing a get-out-the-vote effort — all the things that go into winning. He’s spending it on his kids and reimbursing his own companies. This is about Making Trump Great Again and it always has been.

    DRJ (15874d)

  91. You need to donate to Trump, happyfeet. He desperately needs the money.

    DRJ (15874d)

  92. His kids don’t fly cheap, you know.

    DRJ (15874d)

  93. Still is.

    Kevin M

    Too funny!

    DRJ’s dryness is really hitting my humor sweet spot today. Of course it’s because it relieves my disappointment (with the R party) that Cruz didn’t prevail and Hillary’s donor did.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  94. Wishing for a white knight to arrive and vanquish The Donald is like waiting for Godot.

    ropelight (596f46)

  95. Trump has a payroll to meet, happyfeet. Himself.

    DRJ (15874d)

  96. Do you think Trump is paying himself a weekly salary for campaigning? It looks like it.

    DRJ (15874d)

  97. ropelight, my man. I don’t say this to be mean, but Trump’s vanquishing is a foregone conclusion. Everything we told you a few months ago has been proven true about his inability to perform. The media made him, happily giving him two billion in free air time that the crowded field of actual Republicans could not overcome. I blame the voters first, but the media played this well.

    I agree it doesn’t look good because it’s not a white knight that is crushing Trump, but rather Hillary, who will be a terrible president even though she is such a weak and unlikeable candidate. As bad as she is, she is preferable to Trump in every single way.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  98. I’m beyond wishing for Cruz or anyone else, ropelight. This nightmare is real. We warned you this would happen and I’m going to be here hating every minute of it.

    DRJ (15874d)

  99. Dustin–

    As much as I’d like to see a Pre3sident Cruz, I never thought he was our strongest candidate. Better than He Who Cannot Be Named, of course, but (at least until he came apart) Rubio looked much stronger.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  100. If Trump isn’t happening, I don’t see freed delegates choosing Cruz — the convention would be wide open. I also don’t see them choosing Kasich, Jeb!, Christie or Carson. It is conceivable they’d pick Marco.

    At this point I’d punt and go with Romney who can hit the ground running, unless there as a chance of getting Trump to endorse someone like Walker. I don’t see Ryan wanting it now — he’d rather be Speaker with a GOP president and wait his turn.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  101. I am actually hoping that Trump realizes the bind he is in, and steps aside for the good of the nation. If the ultimate goal is to defeat Hillary, and Trump cannot do that, then he should let someone else try. It’s clear he cannot unify the party.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  102. ropelight, I think you can still send Trump $2,700 for the primary and another $2,700 for the general election. Don’t wait. Melania needs a new Dior for the next campaign appearance.

    nk (dbc370)

  103. Kevin, Cruz isn’t my ideal either. I’d love to see someone with that consistency and backbone but with some real executive experience (as a governor would be best). I liked Walker even though he’s not perfect either. If I woke up and found that Rubio was the nominee and I had been having a bad dream about Trump, I’d be very happy. But I’d even take Jeb, Romney, or a cold bowl of spaghetti.

    Agreed that Trump cannot gather any kind of coalition to win, and he knows it. But he does not think defeating Hillary would be for the good of the nation. He donated to her presidential campaign and the thought of her winning isn’t that big of a deal to him. Certainly not a big enough concern for him to admit he has failed (something that would be incredibly difficult for such a proud and shallow man).

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  104. We should all hope that Trump will withdraw. If he withdraws by his own volition, then his rabid supporters will be less likely to freak out and sit out the election.
    Of course, I can’t imagine ANY Trump supporter sitting out the election, since the alternative is Hillary. And the Trump supporters are so opposed to Hillary. At least, today, they are.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  105. Cruz is my first choice but, if he had won the nomination, he was going to have problems getting establishment support in the general election. That’s why it was so important for Cruz to demonstrate the ability to fundraise, organize a national campaign, and handle his own polling/data analytics. He did those things.

    We don’t know if Cruz’s efforts would have been enough for him to win, but Trump has done nothing and that’s clearly a huge problem for him and for every Republican running for state and national office. If Cruz faced a tough road as a populist/evangelical, Trump faces a mountain because he thinks all he needs is his personality and the media. It worked for Obama because the media wanted him. It won’t work for Trump, and it’s foolish to dream it could.

    DRJ (15874d)

  106. Does anyone seriously think Trump will quit? I don’t. Not when there’s still money to be made and PR to be played.

    DRJ (15874d)

  107. Trump has been sending solicitations for money to Republican donirs since Cruz suspended his campaign and the RNC gave Trump its lists. There were a dozen of emails in May alone. Trump did not wait until June to start fundraising but he clearly had no luck with past Republican donors. He needs to look to the people who voted for him. That’s why it’s so important for people like papertiger, ropelight, and happyfeet to donate. Voting got Trump the nomination but that isn’t enough unless Trump is willing to borrow big.

    DRJ (15874d)

  108. I hope Trump raises $100M this quarter, forgives the debt for everything he previously donated, and makes a big personal contribution going forward. Trump says he is a winner and that’s what he has to do to prove he means it.

    DRJ (15874d)

  109. i’m getting new internet with comcast this uverse one’s stupid

    people aren’t even understanding the difference between Mr. Trump and a filthy urine-encrusted criminal

    happyfeet (831175)

  110. Alternatively, he could take federal funding and probably lose. What are the odds he is having his attorneys analyze the federal funding rules to see how much of that money he can use to reimburse himself, his children, and his companies?

    DRJ (15874d)

  111. Trump’s going to get wiped out in November. Anyone who does the analysis can see this.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  112. nope Mr. CS

    Mr. Trump is a bad mamma jamma

    happyfeet (831175)

  113. If you really care about defeating Hillary,you should cancel Comcast and send the money you save in cable/internet fees to Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  114. It’s for America, happyfeet. Giving up the internet is a small sacrifice to make.

    DRJ (15874d)

  115. For a true believer.

    DRJ (15874d)

  116. ding dong what’s that smell

    oh dear god it’s hillatrine someone open a window
    happyfeet (831175) — 6/21/2016 @ 7:16 am

    Where your nose is, I don’t know how you could possibly smell anything but Trump’s personal brand of methane.

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  117. I propose a gloat-free Wednesday, as it’s too late for today…

    Colonel Haiku (404947)

  118. Mr happyfeet,

    If you won’t even drag your rear end to the polls to vote for him in November, why do you expect that Joe in Peoria or Sally in Atlanta is going to?

    The polls show that he’s not even able to close the deal in Utah, Mississippi, or Georgia, at this point.
    Seriously, he’s going to get wiped out in the electoral college. The popular vote may be within a few points, but the electoral college is what’s important.
    If one does the analysis, one will reach the same conclusion; President Hillary.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  119. BTW. Why does it have to be about Hillary? Why isn’t it more likely that Trump is a long-nurtured Manchurian of the Democratic Party, intended to destroy the Republican Party, with Hillary being the fortunate beneficiary?

    nk (dbc370)

  120. y’all are trying to make it like Mr. Trump is gonna lose

    that’s insane

    he’s the best choice and that’s the kind of peace of mind nobody can ever take away

    happyfeet (831175)

  121. CS,

    Analyzing the campaign using polling averages, staffing and money available ignores the tremendous super powers of the Master Persuader. Once the next shipment of Trumpium arrives (right after the hot check clears), the photon SuperMesmerizer will be fully energized and the campaign will immediately be advancing at Warp 37.

    Alternatively, Charles Mackay accurately described the elements leading to the current situation some 175 years ago.

    Rick Ballard (534b65)

  122. Mr happyfeet,

    Trump is going to lose. And wishing happy thoughts won’t change that fact.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  123. oh my goodness y’all are gonna feel so silly

    happyfeet (831175)

  124. Its hilarious how Patterico posted the picture of “its fine” and we have our own “its fine” brigade here.

    Its always been clear that Trump would get demolished by Clinton. Now that realization is finally sinking in to his supporters.

    He’s conned them, and people don’t like to be conned. He’s taken their money and lined their pockets. He’s destroyed the GOP (like they wanted) which means Clinton will be elected with a strong mandate. They don’t know what to do, except fool themselves into thinking “its fine”.

    Cruz wasn’t my first choice, it was Paul, but I would have taken any of them except Trump and probably Kasich. But instead the people got conned.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  125. nk,

    All it would have taken is a handful of New York real estate moguls and socialites telling Trump at their 2014 holiday parties how much the country needed him to stop evil Republicans like Cruz and Walker, and his ego would do the rest.

    DRJ (15874d)

  126. He’s taken their money and lined their pockets

    Whoops: He’s taken their money and lined his pockets

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  127. New York values.

    DRJ (15874d)

  128. This isn’t gloating, Haiku. This is misery.

    DRJ (15874d)

  129. But I’m not going to look at this misery and pretend there must be a pony underneath.

    DRJ (15874d)

  130. So the Dems fix their race and the Republicans don’t. A “true conservative” ran but didn’t garner the support that everyone – including me – had hoped for. We shall see what happens at the convention.

    Colonel Haiku (404947)

  131. really really good

    that’s how Mr. Trump will do

    he’s no dirty birdie he’s a fabulous departure from the failed ways of yore

    happyfeet (831175)

  132. GOP incumbents have a month to complete development and implementation of political triage strategies and tactics. Media have a month to reinforce existing negatives while selectively denying free coverage.

    Damage control just isn’t very exciting.

    Rick Ballard (534b65)

  133. “..people aren’t even understanding the difference between Mr. Trump and a filthy urine-encrusted criminal.”

    Easy. The criminal is seriously running for President.

    SPQR (a21c80)

  134. some days there’s just no reasoning with you people

    happyfeet (831175)

  135. I think we’re being a little premature in discounting Trump. There must be many billionaires who would like to have “VPOTUSA” in their resume, not to mention all the parties, foreign travel, and access to distant golf courses. Since this candidate for the Vice Presidency would simply be contributing to his own campaign, I presume there would be no limits on the amount he or she could spend.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  136. “READY TO BE A BLACKMAILED PRESIDENT ON DAY ONE: Clinton Foundation Said to Be Breached by Russian Hackers.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236794/

    Colonel Haiku (404947)

  137. Good news story for a Tuesday…

    “WHY IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUCH A CESSPIT OF CORRUPTION? U.S. Rep. Chaka Fattah (D., Pa.) was convicted Tuesday in a federal racketeering case likely to send him to prison.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236797/

    Colonel Haiku (404947)

  138. Does anyone seriously think Trump will quit? I don’t. Not when there’s still money to be made and PR to be played.

    I can see him withdrawing and blaming the GOP “establishment” for blackballing his campaign. Then he writes a book, goes on the lecture circuit, and sells seminars on how to make money in the coming dark times.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  139. Mr. Trump is a bad mamma jamma

    This is the kind of analysis that moves nations.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  140. he’s built! he’s stacked!

    happyfeet (831175)

  141. Alternatively, Charles Mackay accurately described the elements leading to the current situation some 175 years ago.

    P T Barnum’s First and Second Laws explain it just as clearly.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  142. Colonel,

    As long as Trump is on stage, no one will be looking at Hillary. And Trump wouldn’t have it any other way.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  143. 137. Col.
    A real feces fest.

    mg (31009b)

  144. ‘how does it feel, like a rolling stone,’ that red queen threw romney and red squaw, in her
    ‘sound and fury signifying nothing speech,’

    narciso (732bc0)

  145. 142, unfortunately true; 143, I hope he chokes on it, the greedy prick!

    Colonel Haiku (404947)

  146. obviously the oo7 cannot be a single invidual, bond would have been 41, at the time of the first film, closer to roger moore’s character’s age,

    narciso (732bc0)

  147. Imagine a country where Kevin is the only vote that counts.

    How much money would it take for Kevin to curse this country to a Hillary Clinton presidency?

    I don’t think there is enough folding money in the universe to buy her an effin presidency.

    This is America, not effin New York,

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  148. Got a question, is it just me or does happyfeet have a very wierd fetish with urine related speech? Is that a normal human behavior? Is that a healthy human behavior?

    Stephen Hall (56caa4)

  149. Y’all still don’t understand.
    Think of all the money the 16 losers spent.
    10 to 1 with the next loser sounds like a sure thing.

    Kobeclan (04a945)

  150. This is good news actually. Because after Mr. Trump beats Urea Clinton there will be some dishonest sobs claiming he bought the election.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  151. Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/21/2016 @ 8:17 am

    You need to learn to tell the difference between statements of fact and things like metaphor, satire and sarcasm. It will help you pass Turing tests in the future.

    I felt it was better to take it as a statement of fact, because I had an interpretation that could make sense, and it was something I had said, and it was something I wanted to say again; and the the other way made no sense at all – by saying Segretti you seemed maybe to be saying that Donald Trump was himself a Clinton spy or double agent – of course somewhat ironically. But still I liked to take it literally. I sometimes like to do with things not meant literally, if they can bear that interpretation. I think that is even more…something.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  152. Mr. Hall, sir,
    You must be new here.
    Welcome.
    Mr. feets has various fetishes,
    at times some have been humorous,
    but even his fans have been wearied with the not so humorous.
    Some people ignore him,
    some people use software that blocks the contributions of specified people,
    others just try to not take him too seriously.
    A few get worked up over him.

    Enjoy, and keep things in perspective…

    MD in Philly (34fa24)

  153. And no, it is not healthy normal human behavior

    MD in Philly (34fa24)

  154. 147. papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/21/2016 @ 3:29 pm

    Imagine a country where Kevin is the only vote that counts.

    He could name his own candidate then, and wouldn’t have to choose between Donald J. Trump and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  155. True that,
    Sammy.

    MD in Philly (34fa24)

  156. “Is that a normal human behavior?”

    For crying out loud. It’s a penguin.

    Rick Ballard (534b65)

  157. But penguins aren’t supposed to type!!!
    Exclaimed Susan.

    MD in Philly (34fa24)

  158. I think of him, more like the mob vole in zootopia,

    narciso (732bc0)

  159. He could name his own candidate then, and wouldn’t have to choose between Donald J. Trump and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4) — 6/21/2016 @ 4:45 pm

    Yeah, but it’s my fantasy, and I don’t trust Kevin to nominate candidates.

    Under your paradyme we’d be stuck with President Fiorina.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  160. well let them vet, and think they’ve caught bre’r rabbit, again,

    narciso (732bc0)

  161. here’s a vacation gif of hf
    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzru4zFf851qm6oc3o1_500.gif

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  162. Sorry, that last was Thumper. Thumper the rabbit. Not happyfeet. Although Thumper’s feet are happy, which created the original confusion.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  163. thumper, I don’t think so,

    narciso (732bc0)

  164. did I mean mole, I meant shrew.

    http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Big_(Zootopia)?file=Mr_Big_Shrew_Mafia_Boss.png

    narciso (732bc0)

  165. gun vole

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  166. narciso – your stuff is better than Urea’s oppo research.

    With great power comes great responsibility, iykwim.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  167. Under your paradyme we’d be stuck with President Fiorina.

    What a pleasant thought. Are you back on your medications?

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  168. I was for cruz, but you would think a hanging, scratch that, an abbatoir would concentrate’s people’s attention, but apparently not,

    narciso (732bc0)

  169. i try to always just say nice stuff but when

    oh my goodness

    when a stinky pig like hillary try to make like she be president

    i gotta say “hell” to the “no”

    i mean c’mon you guys

    happyfeet (831175)

  170. …ditto he says he doesn’t like guns, he can’t even feign interest in them…

    narciso (732bc0) — 6/20/2016 @ 9:43 pm

    I understand Daniel Craig the actor does not fill the bill of an American gun lover. But he is supposed to portray some sort of professsional.

    And professionals who rely on their equipment maintain their equipment.

    How many times in “American Sniper” did you see the Chris Kyle character beat up his rifle?

    I know “James Bond” doesn’t pay for his own toys but a brief look at the rifle…

    http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/anderson-wheeler-500-nitro-express-double-rifle

    confirms my suspicion that you can get into a house for less money and in a shorter amount of time than it’s going to take to get into one of Anderson Wheeler’s bespoke London doubles.

    The price tag may not be a factor in the character’s thinking. But it is in the viewer’s. Then there’s the practical side. It would be like he steps out of the Ferrari or Jaguar and he’s just too cool to worry about such things as parking brakes or putting it in gear so it doesn’t roll away. But no, he’s too cool. So he steps out of the car and adjusts his tie as the exotic supercar rolls off the cliff in entirely preventable manner.

    Which ruins the movie for me. Leaving me to think, when he is without a ride or later gets into a knife fight, “Hey genius. I guess tossing the gun wasn’t such a bright idea.”

    Which is why I cancelled my cable about ten years back.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  171. I guess I keot looking for the pony, quantum was particularly bad, but I blamed the writer strike, skyfall had no excuse,

    http://www.weaselzippers.us/278684-report-obama-questions-the-necessity-of-israel-maintaining-military-superiority-in-the-region-after-stalled-arms-sale-to-saudi-arabia/

    narciso (732bc0)

  172. Reaganomix strikes again.

    ‘Bout time two generations learned trickle down means getting pissed on. And the beauty of this is Trump loaned the campaign his own money– so technically speaking, he’ll have repayment dibs on any donations and the Fat Cats know it.

    Neuter conservatism and wreck the GOP as a bonus?!

    This guy’s a dream come true! Go, Trump, Go!

    DCSCA (a343d5)

  173. 147. papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/21/2016 @ 3:29 pm
    Imagine a country where Kevin is the only vote that counts.
    =================================================

    He could name his own candidate then, and wouldn’t have to choose between Donald J. Trump and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4) — 6/21/2016 @ 4:45 pm

    Sammy Finkelman… no fillers, artificial ingredients, or preservatives. He’s teh Real Thing.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  174. Lets see Bob. You, me, and Kevin. That makes three votes for Fiorina, which is about what she got in her Senate campaign.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  175. Since I found out Daniel Craig was a leftist/socialist anti gun nut with a Napoleon complex (who I like and studied) stopped watching anything with him in it. I guess you and I are going to find our choices for future entertainment limited Steve57. I’ve stopped TV shows for the same reason. I refuse to fund people who are against y God given rights. Plus they’re hypocrites.

    Rev. Hoagie® (734193)

  176. I searched “James Bond throwing away guns” and apparently I’m not the first to notice.

    Again, I am not looking for some sort of political statement or an NRA ad.

    It’s just that when you see it over and over and over it begins to strike you odd, like a carpenter actively hating his hammer and saw or a pipefitter hating his welder.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  177. It would make a good NRA ad. You could probably do a double bogey. Tell Biden it’s an assault rifle.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  178. @174, it isn’t just that I don’t want to fund them. They also bore me. As I mentioned on the daylight savings comment thread, hunting season is really the only way to turn me into a morning person. Playing with my clocks or what is called popular culture just doesn’t shake my peaches.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHX5lAslnTc

    Peter van Uhm, former Chief of Defense of the Netherlands Armed force, attempts to make common cause with other Euro and shakers and explain why his chosen tool was a rifle.

    I don’t think he does a very good job, because he seems to have absorbed the idea that a rifle is something to be ashamed of. Not what it truly is; something to be proud of.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  179. James Bond is a British gay-boy. Always has been. No relation with reality. You either like him or you don’t, the way you either like Will and Grace or you don’t.

    nk (dbc370)

  180. well fleming envisioned him as much more coldblooded than connery portrayed him, not to mention moore, dalton, was an odd duck, brosnan was an improvement,

    narciso (732bc0)

  181. kate middleton is a prized breeding sow whereas james bond is a sony

    “prince” william brexits her too much (he needs to respect her as a person lol)

    i like that new franchise thing better

    kingsman something

    it has panache

    happyfeet (831175)

  182. the sequel will julianne moore as the villainess, it was a very pointed critique of skydragon worshiping obsession, marred by the british overestimation of the westboro baptists as any significant force, I didn’t think colin firth could pull off the spy bit, and egerton is a new version of caine’s harry palmer character,

    narciso (732bc0)

  183. julianne moore is an idiot trashbiscuit

    feel so bad for her

    happyfeet (831175)

  184. The original model for James Bond was Dusko Popov, aka the British XX agent “Tricycle” whom Ian Fleming saw gambling in Lisbon I think in 1943.

    Susko Popov warned the United States about the possibility of a Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, although not necessarily on any ships there, but J. Edgar Hoover threatened him with violating the Mann Act because he’d taken a girl to Hawaii with him.

    People in the FBI were still defending J. Edgar Hoover in 1982.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  185. well that’s one story, he was more a composite of popov, dunderdale, and a host of others,

    narciso (732bc0)

  186. Fleming was influenced a lot by Raymond Chandler with whom he was good friends. But the Dorothy Sayers latent homosexual fussbudget type came through in the books. “Shaken not stirred”? “Balkan Sobranies with three gold bands”? In a “gunmetal case”? His “Scottish treasure” of a housekeeper”? Seriously?

    The movies are chick-flicks more than anything else. Mike Myers summed it up perfectly with the title of “The Spy Who Shagged Me”.

    (There was a Fleming short story “The Spy Who Loved Me” narrated in the first person by a woman. No resemblance to the Roger Moore movie or the Mike Myers one.)

    nk (dbc370)

  187. Admiral Stockdale’s full given name was coincidentally “James Bond Stockdale.”
    He endured a lot more torture than Sean Connery did.
    But then again, Mr Donald prefers guys who don’t get “captured.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  188. Validation of Ropelight’s intuition (revenge against Ricans) or a last ditch attempt to change the jihadi narrative:

    http://www.univision.com/noticias/masacre-en-orlando/entrevista-exclusiva-presunto-amante-de-omar-mateen-dice-que-la-masacre-en-orlando-fue-una-venganza-relacionada-con-su-sexualidad

    I will trust at least 10 regulars will do a better job at translating than even I.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  189. that’s esssentially it, ulb,

    https://projects.propublica.org/itemizer/committee/C00003418/reports/JUN%20MONTHLY

    I think it makes for a good squirrel!!

    narciso (732bc0)

  190. so is that why he bought tickets to san francisco, to go to where the wife’s family is,

    narciso (732bc0)

  191. Bond movies were about the female body.

    mg (31009b)

  192. James Bond is about the dichotomy of opulent Ritz-style luxury in a place that fronts on a boat harbor.

    Smells like fate.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  193. fart – sorry.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  194. they also did borrow from e phillip oppenheimer, but also from sherlock holmes, when they modernized it, they still dodged the reality of the world we live in, le chiffre, they made albanian, in league with some west africans, but the islamists are out of the picture, steyn noted this in his review of spectre, which misses the point, about who the real villains are,

    narciso (732bc0)

  195. …Bond movies were about the female body.

    mg (31009b) — 6/21/2016 @ 8:49 pm

    And what are you Muslim?

    I will go to my grave in the conviction that their is something in the female form that is, perfect.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  196. I think the last Bond movie I saw was Moonraker. Meh. The Man With The Golden Gun was good — great scenes and great characters. Maud Adams … oh, my. Did you know that flying car was real, but it never went into production because it killed its inventors? The clamps holding the wings on gave way and the wings kept flying while the car and passengers dropped.

    nk (dbc370)

  197. We need to fight terrorism with love, says Loretta Lynch.

    How come the lefties never say that we need to fight racism or fight the KKK with “love”? Or how about whenever the Left has a total freak-out about a cop who was forced to use a weapon against an inner city thug, how the come the Left always insists upon taking to the streets to riot?
    Where is the call for “love” by Loretta Wench in those situations?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  198. I liked Goldeneye and Casino Royale as good popcorn flicks.

    The clamps holding the wings on gave way and the wings kept flying while the car and passengers dropped.

    nk (dbc370) — 6/21/2016 @ 9:36 pm

    Much like Trump keeps on soaring as he pays himself the donations originally intended for close downticket GOP contests, while the party falls towards reality.

    But then, maybe the party and the people flying a stationwagon shouldn’t have gotten on board. Responsibility is hard.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  199. There are, stationwagons, Dustin?

    Last time I dated a chick who owned an AMC Eegle was at least 30 years ago.

    And yes I know about the glaring exception the man wagon the Dodge Magnum. Defying the odds, triumphally flaring out an age whose torch had been held high by the Buick Estate or Ford Country Squire or the Olds Vista Cruiser.

    If you are of a certain age you have partied hearty in the big block version of all of them. Whether you knew it or not. And now, you are dying.

    I resent the casual inference.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  200. My attitude was, back when I was evaluating COMPTUEX, if you’re not willing to run this destroyer at 30 knots blacked out through these narrows, why are you calling yourself a naval officer?

    Somebody has to do it and it aught to be you. Somebody has done it, somebody will do it again

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  201. Oh it was an AMC wasn’t it? That is a little before my time to be honest.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  202. This was not the standard, by the way. It should have been. But it wasn’t.

    http://www.destroyers.org/histories/h-dd-680.htm

    Destroyer Melvin, charging the Battleship Fuso

    This is not part of the syllabus. But it should be.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  203. Dustin, I meant no insult.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Eagle

    Maybe somebody other than me can better describe the sputtering last gasps of the age.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  204. I thought it was a Javelin, myself, but it turns out that it was a Matador.

    nk (dbc370)

  205. There was a Javelin, a Matador, a Hornet, a Gremlin, and a Rambler Rebel. Amongst others, the point?.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  206. I have been humbled by a couple of these. It makes me better.

    http://clubs.hemmings.com/classicamx/RebMachArticle/one.jpg

    http://www.burningtread.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/1970AMC_Rebel-1050×700.jpg

    I’m a Ford guy. But I have to admit the AMC guys know their business.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  207. We were talking about the flying car in The Man With The Golden Gun. Pay attention.

    I know all about AMC. They imported Renaults for a while. I bought a Fuego. It lasted for 37,000 miles.

    nk (dbc370)

  208. The 401. If I could afford to build it I’d be tempted.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  209. I am willing to give you generous credit, nk, but I can’t go so far as to say you know “all about” AMC.

    I just can’t do it.

    Start with demonstration some knowledge of of porting and polishing the small block Chevy cylinder head. The basics.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  210. Drove a Matador in driver’s ed in HS….
    Never would consider buying AMC….

    I currently drive a 1994 Buick Roadmaster wagon.
    So there.

    MD in Philly (34fa24)

  211. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MCjRAX8CAA

    Building a 350 chevy part 1

    I only mention this as a proud descendant of maintainers who could get the extra 100 or so horses out of of your F4F or FM2.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  212. I currently drive a 1994 Buick Road master hogster wagon.
    So there.

    MD in Philly (34fa24) — 6/22/2016 @ 4:50 am

    FIFY

    Colonel Haiku (71a740)

  213. Doc @210, my daily driver is a 2011 Tacoma with an inline four. And I am, oddly, happy. I’m bopping around in the thing and it, just gets job done.

    But then, Doc, I am kind of gay.

    http://www.texasraceway.com/classes/bracket-racing/

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  214. If you are satisfied with bracket racing, admit it. You just weren’t all that into girls.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  215. There are, stationwagons, Dustin?

    Last time I dated a chick who owned an AMC Eegle was at least 30 years ago.
    Steve57 (ecac13) — 6/22/2016 @ 1:41 am

    If you ever want to show people what a AMC Eagle 4X4 station wagon looks like, it’s what Marty McFly’s girlfriend’s father arrives in to pick her up in the Hill Valley town square, just as she’s trying to kiss Marty.

    Hey, wait a minute…”at least thirty years ago”?

    MARTY!

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  216. He could name his own candidate then, and wouldn’t have to choose between Donald J. Trump and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    It might surprise you who I’d pick if ONLY my vote counted. And it’s not as easy as you think.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  217. Not a bad idea for a post:

    If you could PICK the next President, who would you pick, and why?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  218. Not Fiorina. She was the best of a poor bunch.

    If this was the original idea of a tripartite executive, it would be Romney, Gingrich and Cruz. Romney for stability, Cruz for the Will towards change, and Gingrich for ideas. I’m not sure I’d pick any one of them alone, though.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  219. If you could PICK the next President, who would you pick, and why?

    i’d pick President Brexit cause of he’s so fearsome and elegant like that guy what used to run fantasy island with the creepy dwarf

    happyfeet (831175)

  220. narciso, are you slipping? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/23/donald-trump-just-officially-gave-his-campaign-50-million-he-had-no-choice/

    Or did you post it on another thread? Trump forgave $50 million in loans he had made to his campaign.

    It may not be a big deal to the DNC’s house organ, WaPo, but it is to me. I think it’s a munificent gesture by a serious candidate. Now if he got some accent-reduction tutoring for Melania ….

    nk (dbc370)

  221. stop chasing the white whale, you saw what happened to liam helmsworth,

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-loan-idUSKCN0Z91MJ

    narciso (732bc0)


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