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6/10/2016

Hillary’s $$$$ for National Security Positions Scam

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:40 am



New emails seem to show that an unqualified man was given a spot on a national security advisory board because he was a donor to the Clinton Foundation. And when the media came asking questions, Hillary’s shop panicked and he quickly resigned:

Newly released State Department emails help reveal how a major Clinton Foundation donor was placed on a sensitive government intelligence advisory board even though he had no obvious experience in the field, a decision that appeared to baffle the department’s professional staff.

The emails further reveal how, after inquiries from ABC News, the Clinton staff sought to “protect the name” of the Secretary, “stall” the ABC News reporter and ultimately accept the resignation of the donor just two days later. …

. . . .

The newly released emails reveal that after ABC News started asking questions in August 2011, a State Department official who worked with the advisory board couldn’t immediately come up with a justification for Fernando serving on the panel. His and other emails make repeated references to “S”; ABC News has been told this is a common way to refer to the Secretary of State.

“The true answer is simply that S staff (Cheryl Mills) added him,” wrote Wade Boese, who was Chief of Staff for the Office of the Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security, in an email to Mannina, the press aide. “Raj was not on the list sent to S; he was added at their insistence.”

Via Ed Morrissey.

In the memorable phraseology of Michael Brendan Dougherty, Hillary is a “bottomlessly cynical, power-mad grifter.” Dougherty’s piece suggests you not vote Trump or Clinton, even if your opinion of Clinton is as follows:”if she thought it would get her four centimeters closer to the presidency, Hillary Clinton would devour your squealing grandchild, or her own, live on the set of The View.” Because you may have an “equally credible suspicion” that “Donald Trump is rabies in human form, likely to drive our country into a feverish search for scraps in the neighbors’ garbage only to get us run over by a truck.”

P.S. GOP Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell just said about the presumptive GOP nominee: “it’s pretty obvious he doesn’t know a lot about the issues.” McConnell’s advice: use a script more. “It’s why I have argued to him publicly and privately that he ought to use a script more often—there is nothing wrong with having prepared texts.” This is where we are.

285 Responses to “Hillary’s $$$$ for National Security Positions Scam”

  1. P.S. GOP Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell just said about the presumptive GOP nominee: “it’s pretty obvious he doesn’t know a lot about the issues.” McConnell’s advice: use a script more. “It’s why I have argued to him publicly and privately that he ought to use a script more often—there is nothing wrong with having prepared texts.” This is where we are.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. Greetings:

    Me, I’m surprised Hillary’s cabal couldn’t find a Muslim for the job.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  3. if only we had a dour lumpen uncharismatic pseudo-christian piece of harvardfilth to vote for

    happyfeet (831175)

  4. So Mitch is now the GOP guy whose advice we should all follow? When did this happen for Sen. RINO?

    Fred Beloit (12281a)

  5. Mitch McConnell is a lodestar of moral authority and political acumen cause of gravitas and longevity and also he’s been around forever Mr. Beloit

    you can clearly see this by reading his wikipedia page, which is on the Internet, quite nearby the page you are looking at now

    happyfeet (831175)

  6. So Mitch is now the GOP guy whose advice we should all follow? When did this happen for Sen. RINO?

    Mitch’s advice is to vote Trump.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  7. if only we had a dour lumpen uncharismatic pseudo-christian piece of harvardfilth to vote for

    Eat it, happyfeet.

    nk (dbc370)

  8. Mcturtle is like the teacher in Charlie brown, he was why Cruz coukdnt get traction,

    narciso (732bc0)

  9. you cannot has goat

    happyfeet (831175)

  10. When it comes to getting people’s goats, you’ve decimated everybody’s herds here.

    nk (dbc370)

  11. Credentials, get yer credentials, here!

    From the link:

    Fernando is now a board member of a private group called the American Security Project, which describes itself as “a nonpartisan organization created to educate the American public and the world about the changing nature of national security in the 21st Century.” He also identifies himself online as a member of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and says he’s involved with a Washington think tank.

    I wonder how many donors, or what have you, will “acquire” the patina of legitimacy in this way. I guess you could say that they learned a lesson.

    felipe (429749)

  12. i’m still very hopeful that everything ends happily for everyone involved except for that wretched crabby criminal old woman what pees all over decency, the flag, the constitution, the chinese takeout menu, and the couch cushions

    happyfeet (831175)

  13. Formatting error! That last sentence got stuck in the block quote.

    felipe (429749)

  14. We might have this “throwing the election” thing backwards. Why not that it’s Trump who bought off Hillary?

    nk (dbc370)

  15. cia poofterboy James Woolsey comes off looking pretty sleazy

    As is customary with a new administration, the make-up of the board changed substantially when Clinton took over the State Department, according to Amb. James Woolsey, who served on the panel from 2006 to 2009. But the seriousness of its mission remained the same.

    He said the board’s primary purpose was to gather an array of experts on nuclear weapons and arms control to constantly assess and update the nation’s nuclear strategy.

    “Most things that involve nuclear weapons and nuclear strategy are dealt with at a pretty sensitive basis – top secret,” he said, noting that participants meet in a secure facility and are restricted in what materials they can discuss.

    That is not typically the realm of political donors, Woolsey said. Though, he added, it would not be impossible for someone lacking a security background to make a contribution to the panel. “It would depend on how smart and dedicated this person was… I would think you would have to devote some real time to getting up to speed,” he said.

    this slimeball used to head failmerica’s super-expensive and highly incompetent CIA

    yet he doesn’t seem very alarmed that the clinton global criminal cartel sold access to a top secret panel with access to wide-ranging top secret national security information does he?

    very best of hands

    happyfeet (831175)

  16. R.I.P. Gordie Howe, “Mr. Hockey”

    Icy (a26f12)

  17. No woolsey is a good guy, this is why bill Clinton had no use fir him, years ago he was the Yale rep for clean gene, but he went into the army, became an expert on missile technology,

    narciso (732bc0)

  18. It was stumblebumb deutch who slashed the entire CIA asset list, apologized to the crazies in south central. And ultimately was cauaught keeping classified material on an insecure server,

    narciso (732bc0)

  19. Dear Media,

    Remember how you got all up in arms that Michael Brown got put in charge of FEMA despite his apparent lack of qualifications? Remember how you raked Bush over the coals months, nee years over this issue?

    This. Is. The. Exact. G**damn. Thing.
    ONLY! WORSE!

    Hillary literally sold our national security to the highest bidder. I expect you to give the same level of coverage as you did previously.

    But yeah, keep bleating about how awful Trump is…

    SaveFarris (b93239)

  20. i don’t agree Mr. narciso

    slippery slimy woolsey is helping the abc propaganda sluts frame the issue as being one of qualifications and credentials – which is not what it was

    this was graft and malfeasance that compromised national security

    happyfeet (831175)

  21. ”if she thought it would get her four centimeters closer to the presidency, Hillary Clinton would devour your squealing grandchild, or her own, live on the set of The View.”

    Hillary Clinton was for deporting illegal immigrants (and the wall) before she was against it:

    http://710wor.iheart.com/onair/mark-simone-52176/look-at-this-video-i-found-14796078/

    And Donald Trump was against deporting illegal immigrants before he was for it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B2LDQoC46M

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  22. Slimetrails follow Hillary wherever she goes. All it takes is a judge to dislodge those FOIA requests.

    WarrenPeese (1df851)

  23. betcha slippery slimy woolsey has his eye on a sweet-ass job in the it’s-prone-to-infection-cause-it-never-really-gets-dry administration

    happyfeet (831175)

  24. That is not typically the realm of political donors, Woolsey said. Though, he added, it would not be impossible for someone lacking a security background to make a contribution to the panel. “It would depend on how smart and dedicated this person was… I would think you would have to devote some real time to getting up to speed,” he said.

    this slimeball used to head failmerica’s super-expensive and highly incompetent CIA

    happyfeet (831175) — 6/10/2016 @ 9:09 am

    Back the truck up, babytalk. Let’s look at your bolded quote:


    Though, he added, it would not be impossible for someone lacking a security background to make a contribution to the panel. “It would depend on how smart and dedicated this person was… I would think you would have to devote some real time to getting up to speed,” he said.

    Sound like any ignoramuses you know?

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  25. Mr. Smithee the last R president slaughtered thousands of our own soldiers and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians on bad intel and wishful thinking and ended up with no strategic gains whatsoever to show for it.

    not to mention the billions and billions of dollars he utterly and totally pissed away

    Mr. Trump’s been very articulate about the lessons he learned from the Bush fiasco.

    I’m very comfortable with his judgment in these matters.

    the benghazi hooch not so much

    happyfeet (831175)

  26. Another unforced error from our so-called Republican “leadership”.

    Keep the Hillary info coming… yer starting to scratch the surface.

    Colonel Haiku (d8affe)

  27. New emails seem to show that an unqualified man was given a spot on a national security advisory board because he was a donor to the Clinton Foundation.

    We already knew, or could have known, because the story was little noted nor long remembered, that an unqualified man was given a spot on a national security advisory board.

    What the new emails shows is that it was definitely a patronage appointment.

    And he didn’t even contribute to a campaign, but to this foundation.

    The reason the emails shows that is because ABC raised questions, and they discussed it ineternally.

    Moral: It’s always a good thing to “tickle the wire” even if there is no wire, because maybe one day you might find out what they said to each other.

    Sammy Finkelman (be1e2f)

  28. She’s also a lefty hack, I remember one of the Chapman spy ring, attached themselves to one red queen’s hangers on from the health task force days, Ira magaziner

    narciso (732bc0)

  29. And all y’all Trumpkins want to put an orange-skinned poofter even less qualified for a security clearance in charge of the whole shebang.

    nk (dbc370)

  30. Mr. Trump’s been very articulate about the lessons he learned from the Bush fiasco.

    I’m very comfortable with his judgment in these matters.

    Part of that post got lost; I managed to find the complete post and reproduce it below:

    You might think the reason I don’t provide any quotes or links is because I’m lying.
    However, it’s actually because I’m a spambot made by Warner Brothers to search engine optimize for their old movies.
    Mixing in too many links will confuse Google and Bing.

    CayleyGraph (353727)

  31. New emails seem to show that an unqualified man was given a spot on a national security advisory board…

    I don’t see the problem here. We gave the Presidency to an unqualified man and the Secretary of State to an unqualified woman. What’s the big deal over a spot on an advisory board?

    /sarc

    windbag (1a3e26)

  32. But yeah, keep bleating about how awful Trump is…

    That Hillary is horrible does not mean that Trump is not horrible.

    They are just horrible in slightly different ways.

    The difference between the two is the difference between fascism and communism. (I don’t mean to be Godwin here, nor am I say that Trump is a fascist in fact.)

    Fascism is authoritarian statism with a nationalist veneer that keeps the outward forms of capitalism even as it guts the inward substance of capitalism.

    Communism is authoritarian statism with an internationalist veneer that is not interested in keeping the outward forms of capitalism.

    You can easily can map Trump and Clinton along that divide.

    What actual conservatism wants is a nonauthoritarian state that does only what is necessary to do, and leaves capitalism and the free market alone as much as possible.

    Nothing about Hillary matches that–but just as equally, nothing about Donald matches that.

    kishnevi (870883)

  33. There’s plenty of evidence that Shorty isn’t the outlier I want to think he is.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  34. Why would he ineligible. We know why razorback and red queen are.

    narciso (732bc0)

  35. Razorback has been involved with antiamerican persons like mort halperin for instance, who went on to the American regress, trump has been mostly apolitical, re the major issues of the day.

    narciso (732bc0)

  36. Mr. Smithee the last R president slaughtered thousands of our own soldiers and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians on bad intel and wishful thinking and ended up with no strategic gains whatsoever to show for it.

    We had some major strategic gains from Iraq before Obama gave them up. Also, the intel that led to Osama Bin Laden was captured in Iraq. It’s always amazing seeing how a Trump fan can fly from extreme to extreme.

    Mr. Trump’s been very articulate

    He was articulate when he said Hillary would be a terrific secretary of state, would be a great president, and had done a great job as Secretary of State after she left that post (and thus praising her handling of Benghazi). But you’re going to ignore this point, like you have every time it’s brought up.

    Trump has also praised communist thuggery across the board, talked about using nuclear weapons against our allies, and sorta sounds like an idiot all the time.

    That’s your gal.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  37. Aaaand that’s why we need to get money out of politics. See, I’ve been right all along. Wait, that’d be be more of that dastardly “regulation.” Dang!

    Tillman (a95660)

  38. And yet w sought not to defend his project, the people who worked under him, like scooter Libby, what value dies that serve,

    narciso (732bc0)

  39. In that instance he was more like republican stalwarts baker and sciwcrift

    narciso (732bc0)

  40. It is really really terrible when you suddenly realize that, given these two choices Obama doesn’t look s bad.

    Reagan
    Bush Sr
    Clinton
    Bush Jr
    Obama
    Whichever

    Anyone spot the trend?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  41. Right Kevin, the difference between well Intentioned and evil, mi d you the medicis can’t tell either,

    narciso (732bc0)

  42. it doesn’t surprise me at all that Mr. Trump tried to stay on the good side of a vindictive criminal old woman what keeps soiling herself – he has a lot of business interests in New York, and her political power-base is still in NY where she bought a senate seat and her son in law is anthony weiner and her other son in law is a new york hedge fund pansy and her husband is a sickly herpes victim who used to be president whose offices are in harlem

    that was just good smart business at the time it has nothing to do with where we are today

    unlike harvardtrash ted Mr. Trump doesn’t go around alienating people just for giggles

    he’s very tactical

    happyfeet (831175)

  43. No they boxer spawn in their family tree, like kudzu, now ivanka’s father in law did run into a spot of trouble some years back, that stay put cleared up,

    narciso (732bc0)

  44. If being tactical is so smart, I wonder why happyfeet goes around alienating people just for giggles.

    DRJ (15874d)

  45. i brought donuts

    happyfeet (831175)

  46. Maybe it’s because currying favor with others isn’t always or just about being tactical. Maybe it’s because Trump is weak and insecure.

    DRJ (15874d)

  47. Are they happyfeet donuts? Do they have sprinkles on them and your name on the box in big gold letters.

    DRJ (15874d)

  48. no they’re firecake donuts i saved you a red velvet

    happyfeet (831175)

  49. I cringe at the thought of happyfeet sprinkles.

    Steve Malynn (4bc33a)

  50. well that would be you

    happyfeet (831175)

  51. it doesn’t surprise me at all that Mr. Trump tried to stay on the good side of a vindictive criminal old woman what keeps soiling herself – he has a lot of business interests in New York, and her political power-base is still in NY

    You’re being vague. Was Trump a coward, and afraid of standing up to Hillary, or was he corrupt, and hoping to get some better business deals because he enriched the right corrupt democrats?

    And does it really take going on Larry King to praise Hillary before her confirmation hearings to run a business in New York? I can’t recall every other New York businessman doing it, and Trump sure did go on TV to praise Hillary in particular quite a lot.

    unlike harvardtrash ted Mr. Trump doesn’t go around alienating people just for giggles

    Actually, Senator Cruz was fighting Obamacare, amnesty, and excessive government spending. He did alienate those who profit from a big government, but the purpose was clear, and it wasn’t Cruz’s entertainment. Cruz easily could had sold out and he would have a much easier time on the hill, but he has character and is honest.

    It’s amazing to me that you hate him so much. You call him filth, are furious that he is well educated (angrily citing his university every time you mention him), and also have bashed his wife dozens of times. Your candidate, Donald Trump, tweeted ugly pictures of Senator Cruz’s wife, smeared his dad as associated with JFK’s murder, and from your comments it’s clear this is what you’re looking for in a leader.

    It reminds me of idiocracy, when the only man of normal intelligence sounds “faggy” to the morons. When he tries to explain himself, they are only more enraged. In the end, they become desperate for his help, just as I think America is desperate for well educated, non-macho, conservative leadership that will tell us we can’t have all the ‘huge’ ‘awesome’ government benefits Trump is promising.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  52. Mr. Trump’s a good person. You’ll see, Mr. Dustin.

    and then won’t you feel silly

    happyfeet (831175)

  53. 29.And all y’all Trumpkins want to put an orange-skinned poofter even less qualified for a security clearance in charge of the whole shebang.
    nk (dbc370) — 6/10/2016 @ 10:28 am

    At least he’s not a spy.

    37.Aaaand that’s why we need to get money out of politics. See, I’ve been right all along. Wait, that’d be be more of that dastardly “regulation.” Dang!
    Tillman (a95660) — 6/10/2016 @ 11:39 am

    If you cut the regulations a lot of the money in politics would leave of it’s own volition. So how is getting the money out “more dastardly regulation?

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  54. If you cut the regulations a lot of the money in politics would leave of it’s own volition. So how is getting the money out “more dastardly regulation?

    This.

    Steve Malynn (4bc33a)

  55. unlike harvardtrash ted Mr. Trump doesn’t go around alienating people just for giggles

    No, he does it on purpose.

    Question is, is he an alpha male who acts like an alpha male, or a beta male acting like an alpha male.
    We’ve had only a couple of the first kind as POTUS: TRoosevelt, Andrew Jackson, LBJ.

    We’ve had a bunch of alpha males acting like beta males, a lot of beta males acting like alphas. I would suggest most of our best presidents are alphas acting like betas, but not all of them are that good: and most of the betas acting like alphas are mediocre, but some are good, and it would be difficult a lot of the time to sort out who belongs in which category. There haven’t been many betas acting like betas, because that kind doesn’t generally succeed in politics, but I suspect some of the worst presidents–Buchanan, say–might fit there. To succeed in politics requires some sort of blending, the ability to know when to act like an alpha and when to act like a beta.

    Recent occupants
    Nixon–beta acting like an alpha
    Ford–ditto
    Carter–ditto
    Reagan–alpha acting like a beta
    Bush Sr.–beta acting like an alpha
    Clinton–alpha acting like a beta
    Bush Jr.–ditto
    Obama–beta acting like an alpha

    The above is semiphilosophical rambling and can be ignore/laughed at as wished.

    kishnevi (870883)

  56. Mr. Trump’s a good person. You’ll see, Mr. Dustin.

    and then won’t you feel silly

    happyfeet (831175)

    You’re the one who leveled the attacks on Cruz. Now you’re just ignoring my points with some lazy snark. You were a better commenter when you wanted to discuss stuff, instead of just troll out ugliness and snark when you get a reaction.

    But no, Trump is not a good person. Even most of his supporters admit that much. Few sincerely think Trump is a good person after how he treated the mother of his kids, how he smeared the parents and spouses of his opponents, how he ruined the life of that woman his Trump University scam robbed, how he used his political connections to seize homes and pave over them, how he cheated investors of their end of Trump contracts in serial bankruptcies, and how he’s lied and flip flopped repeatedly as a decades long politician who has never actually won office. Trump the guy who praises himself endlessly, who praises dictators rolling tanks at Tienanmen Square, who paints his name in thirty foot letters.

    I could see someone thinking Clinton is worse than Trump. She has the longer record and it’s terrible. You have to pick between two corrupt bastards, and both choices are wrong to some degree. But you actually say Trump represents your concept of good. No wonder you hate Cruz so much.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  57. De-facto Hillary supporters/voters… put teh Brawndo® down.

    Colonel Haiku (d8affe)

  58. Are they happyfeet donuts? Do they have sprinkles on them and your name on the box in big gold letters.

    DRJ (15874d)

    Same point as mine in about 2000 fewer words. I wish I could do that.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  59. De-facto Hillary supporters/voters… put teh Brawndo® down.

    Colonel Haiku (d8affe)

    Sorry, Haiku, I’m going to hope like hell the GOP doesn’t nominate Trump, which is why I am making my point now, as sorry as it is. Hillary is not as bad as Trump. I’d vote for her over him.

    Yes, I know she is corrupt. Her policies are almost as bad as Trump’s (actual) views, proven over decades of Trump’s actions, not his lies in the GOP primary. Hillary is less likely to get thousands of soldiers killed. Trump has shown he does not respect our veterans, and they are just cannon fodder to his ego. Hillary has fought our speech rights, but not with Trump’s zealousness.

    Hillary is vastly more competent and experienced than Trump. Trump cannot speak coherently off the prompter about issues he claims to care deeply about.

    Hillary would be four more years of what we’ve survived for eight. Trump would be something darker.

    Aside from this direct case, Trump would take the GOP far to the left. His failures and corruption would define the GOP. While it would be good to see the GOP replaced by a conservative reform party, Trump’s impact would greatly harm the conservative side of many issues.

    I know you’re afraid of Hillary, and I realize your fear is justified, but you have to show how Trump is better than Hillary to make your point. Just saying Hillary is bad isn’t enough, because it’s a contest. They are both terrible.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  60. Just stumbled over this, from a month ago.
    But it aptly sums the matter up
    http://www.dailywire.com/news/5474/5-arguments-voting-trump-and-why-they-fail-ben-shapiro

    kishnevi (870883)

  61. y’all are way way too invested in failmerica’s decline

    Mr. Trump is so much better than a nasty clinton skank because of three primary reasons.

    #1 he’s smart and he understands branding – he’ll do everything he can to help America be more better so as to burnish both America’s brand and his own

    #2 he’s disruptive and he’ll help Team R reform into something recognizably American again – the socialists are just as corrupt and sclerotic as Team R, but they don’t have a Mr. Trump to help them move forward, just a nasty old woman who smells like a litterbox

    #3 he’ll make much much better appointments throughout government and the courts than skank will – and those people will learn and grow and be prepared to serve at the state and local levels and in subsequent R administrations – and most importantly – they will open doors for others

    yay Mr. Trump i love you

    happyfeet (831175)

  62. happyfeet (831175) — 6/10/2016 @ 1:13 pm

    #1 no, and the only brand he’s interest in his own.
    #2 well, he’s certainly disruptive, but he’ll push Team R leftwards.
    #3 wishful thinking. More likely he’ll look for a bunch of yesmen and yeswomen.

    kishnevi (870883)

  63. brand? Trump’s brand is awful.

    disruptive? Only to the good guys. Happyfeet just went on about how Trump worked with Hillary because he’s a new yorker. He was so disruptive he was kissing Hillary’s ass on national TV for years and years. Other people Trump hasn’t disrupted: Reid, Pelosi, Schumer.

    appointments? No evidence of that one. And Trump is a disaster for the downticket.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  64. i bought shoes today

    happyfeet (831175)

  65. I hope they make your feet happy

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  66. “I know you’re afraid of Hillary, and I realize your fear is justified,”

    Don’t confuse or conflate fear with “contempt for”, “resistance to”, “despise”, etc., etc…

    Colonel Haiku (d8affe)

  67. Conflate. That’s the one I’m doing. And yeah, you’re scared to death of all democrats. To the point where all a democrat has to do is run as a republican against a democrat and you’re on board.

    As I’ve said before, you guys don’t have a positive case for the GOP. Just a list of reasons the democrat is the boogeyman.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  68. thanks!

    happyfeet (831175)

  69. You think Cackles would hire mercs to clog up comment sections of adverse reports with phony equivication?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  70. Even Bill doesn’t like her that much.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  71. she’s just so vile

    happyfeet (831175)

  72. Check out yesterday’s SteynOnline … A group is dramatizing the depositions of the Clinton gang. The actual videos of the depositions will be blocked by a judge who doesn’t want to interfere with Hillary’s election, but the depositions are available, and with actors playing the various roles, they make for interesting viewing. You will find the video a ways down the page. It is labelled “Clinton Emails on Film: Cheryl Mills Deposition”. I wasn’t very impressed by the lady lawyer who was taking the deposition, but perhaps she was looking for something that wasn’t obvious. Mills managed to remember her name and where she went to school, but after that not so much.

    BobStewartatHome (404986)

  73. You think Cackles would hire mercs to clog up comment sections of adverse reports with phony equivication?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

    Hey, I gotta feed the dogs somehow, man. Don’t be a hater. Next stop, the grassy knoll to hide all the Cruz evidence. Then, on to Three Mile Island where they hid our social security.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  74. You press Dustin’s reset you get a blank screen for a minute then he restores to “Vote Hillary. I don’t know why. Just do it. And shut up.”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  75. You think Cackles would hire mercs to clog up comment sections of adverse reports with phony equivication?

    Why should she? She had the MSM doing it for her on a volunteer basis.

    kishnevi (b9b7a2)

  76. And yeah, you’re scared to death of all democrats. Dustin @67

    First of all Dustin, you really need to control your childish proclivity toward calling everyone who disagrees with you a coward in one form or another. Sooner or later it will cost you a few teeth. You’re safe doing it here of course which only proves your projection.

    As I’ve said before, you guys don’t have a positive case for the GOP. Just a list of reasons the democrat is the boogeyman. Again, Dustin @67

    We’ve come up against leftist democrats like yourself before and realize no matter what we say there will never be any way to prove “a positive case for the GOP”. It’s like trying to tell a AGW cultist the science isn’t really settled. Suffice it to say we don’t believe that democrats are the boogeyman, only that Hillary is a communist and if you’re 4Hillary! you’re a traitor to America.

    But it’s good you came out as a democrat, not that we didn’t know already.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  77. brand? Trump’s brand is awful.

    disruptive? Only to the good guys. Happyfeet just went on about how Trump worked with Hillary because he’s a new yorker. He was so disruptive he was kissing Hillary’s ass on national TV for years and years. Other people Trump hasn’t disrupted: Reid, Pelosi, Schumer.

    appointments? No evidence of that one. And Trump is a disaster for the downticket.

    Dustin (2a8be7) — 6/10/2016 @ 1:19 pm

    Not just Hillary’s hindquarters, but Bill’s behind too.

    Remember the way Sea Organization Trump Organization EVP Michael Cohen — his hockey goon lawyer — told CNN’s Chris Cohen that when Trump contemporaneously trashed Paula Jones, Linda Tripp, and Slick Willie’s other accusers, he was just “standing up for a friend.” Yeah, a friend who just happened to be the most powerful man on earth.

    Transcript:

    CUOMO: Here are my two reasons I think it is bad for him. One, hypocrite, two, glass houses. He defended Bill Clinton for years. He said the same allegations that you guys are talking about now were a waste of time, were wrong, were hollow, that Bill Clinton was a terrific guy, that he was a great president, that the impeachment was wrong, that it was a waste of time.

    COHEN: And Hillary Clinton said Donald Trump was one of the smartest businessmen in the United States. Now she is attacking him on these ads.

    CUOMO: So she is bad, too. Isn’t he bad for going after him?

    COHEN: All he is doing is giving the facts.

    CUOMO: No, no, no. He knew the facts then in the ’90s when this was happening.

    COHEN: He was a private citizen who was friendly with the Clintons, and he was trying to protect a friend, all right. Now, it’s a different game. It’s 2016. He’s the presidential —

    CUOMO: Michael. If you decide to run for office and people say you knew Cuomo. Back then you used to say —

    COHEN: I will always deny that.

    (LAUGHTER)

    CUOMO: You say now I’m running against him, Cuomo is a bum, that makes it OK.

    COHEN: Absolutely.

    CUOMO: Come on. Michael, please.

    COHEN: If I was telling the truth —

    CUOMO: So he was lying, then?

    COHEN: He was not lying. He was protecting a friend. There’s a difference.

    CUOMO: What is the difference?

    COHEN: He was being a true friend. It didn’t matter to him.

    CUOMO: So he would be friends with a guy that he thought was a piece of crap basically?

    COHEN: What his relationship with his wife is between the two of them. Now it’s different. They’re attacking Mr. Trump on a daily basis. Hundreds of millions of dollars spent in attack ads, right, where it’s funny because I keep seeing CNN and others talking about the two ads that are going against one another. Mr. Trump spent probably $250 on his ad and no expense in terms of getting it out, and she has probably spent several millions of dollars.

    CUOMO: Why is he going after stuff that — he called Paula Jones a loser.

    COHEN: Do you know what the difference is? The ad that he put out against the Clintons is legitimate. The one she put out against him is inaccurate.

    CUOMO: He says it’s illegitimate. He said Linda Tripp was a lying loser.

    COHEN: Let’s talk about 2016, Chris. We’re not going to talk about 1990 when he was defending Bill Clinton because it didn’t matter.

    CUOMO: Why would I trust you if you say all the things you said then were false?

    COHEN: He was a private individual —

    CUOMO: So you tell the truth when you’re politician but you lie when you’re private individual?

    COHEN: He had no obligation to say anything to anybody.

    CUOMO: He said plenty.

    COHEN: So what? He is Donald Trump.

    CUOMO: That’s the record of what you believe.

    COHEN: No, no, no. It was — he was standing up for a man who he considered to be a friend at the time.

    CUOMO: So he was saying things that he knew was untrue at the time?

    COHEN: No.

    CUOMO: Did he believe them to be true at the time?

    COHEN: I don’t think he knew the answer. He was standing up for a friend.

    CUOMO: He called Paula Jones, called Linda Tripp the personification of evil.

    COHEN: The person who called all of them the worst was Hillary Clinton, the great enabler.

    CUOMO: This is about your guy, what he said, Paula Jones is a loser and she may be responsible for bringing down the president indirectly. Did he know it or did not know it?

    COHEN: You’ll have to ask him that question.

    CUOMO: Mike — Michael, that’s a nice dodge, my friend, very well done on that. What I’m saying is that is the hypocrisy part. You defended the guy more than anybody else basically who didn’t have go, and now you’re bringing all the same attacks and saying it’s different now, I’m running for office. I think that sounds like a…

    COHEN: Like I said to you the very first time I came on this show, Donald Trump is a counterpuncher. Had she not turned around and brought out the issue where she is referring to him as a sexist and misogynist, this ad would have never come out. What is going to be even worse, here is a little hint for them. Donald Trump is this uber billionaire real estate developer, possibly the greatest negotiator in the history of this planet[…] He’ll never come out with his first offer, right, in real estate right off the bat. Meaning she thinks this is bad, right, this is nothing. He’s not coming out with his strong, right, from day number one.

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  78. “Hillary is a communist and if you’re 4Hillary! you’re a traitor to America.”

    – Rev. Hoagie

    You’re an idiot.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  79. ” The Benghazi Hooch” makes you the Bard of Chicago.Bravo Mr.Happy Feet.

    mike191 (bf652f)

  80. I should be willing to make a more constructive point than that, but I’m not. Not today. Listening to all of this incessant bleating about who is/isn’t a “real American” is extremely disheartening.

    Political support of *Donald Trump* has become the litmus test for American patriotism? We are so f*cked.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  81. :)

    happyfeet (831175)

  82. Democrats argument boils down to Trump is Hillary light with a dollup of playing to the crowd.

    We want to take the straight strychnine? I’ll take the dillute.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  83. How much of the military will be left after four years of red queen, now the internet is being turned over to a sundry camarilla, how much criticism will there be, how about rolling blackouts as they shut down morcoal fired plants, that assumes an amp doesn’t take out the power grid or we stumble into nuclear war with the Russians,

    narciso (732bc0)

  84. narciso sees far. You should listen to that guy.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  85. Only PC Kalifornia moonbats think Political Correctness is the major issue of this campaign.

    You will happily vote for an incredibly sociopathic and corrupt Hillary — rule of law no longer matters — over Trump who doesn’t care for PC “values” and would only be good for Jobs and America First.

    Similar to Rome before the fall, lawlessness is reigning at the top of government now…
    Why should we the people have to follow the law?

    Pts (ce7fc3)

  86. Trump is an asshole and if you’re 4Trump you are one too.

    nk (dbc370)

  87. Did I just see Dustin becankle himself? Say it isn’t so!

    Colonel Haiku (f00165)

  88. that sounds painful, coronello,

    narciso (732bc0)

  89. MICHAEL WALSH: Behold the #NeverTrumpumpkins — Out and Proud!

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/235940/

    Colonel Haiku (f00165)

  90. You will happily vote for an incredibly sociopathic and corrupt Hillary — rule of law no longer matters — over Trump who doesn’t care for PC “values” and would only be good for Jobs and America First.

    Yeah, Trump, who doesn’t care for “PC Values.” That’s why he’s come out strongly against the Justice Department and the Department of Education’s ham-handed “advisory” that threatens to de-fund public schools that don’t turn basic biology on its head to accommodate gender dysphoric children and their weird parents.

    Oh, yeah. He HASN’T said a word about that, has he?

    (I can still call Trump “he,” right? I don’t have to say “ze” or “they,” do I?)

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  91. Well nk, some people are born a$sholes even when they’re not 4Trump but one has to be a certain type of slime to be a communist traitor. Or nowadays just 4Hillary!.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  92. be~can·kle
    beˈkaNGkəl/
    verb informal
    1. an unusually thick or stout ankle

    2. To make a complete idiot of oneself in public or on a forum. To behave, speak or write in such a way, or to make a comment or express an opinion that is so profoundly witless, senseless and obtuse, that you have forever after defined yourself as a person of politically comical value only. Never to be taken seriously again. Of worth only as an object of ridicule and derision.

    3. Thick or numb of skull.

    Colonel Haiku (f00165)

  93. HMMM: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills.

    “If I’m Trump, here’s my pitch:

    So the USA Today — very bad paper, they call it McPaper, but that’s unfair because McDonald’s offers real value, have you tried their dollar menu? Superb! — says I don’t pay my bills. That’s crazy, I’m like the best bill-payer you’ll ever see. I pay bills I haven’t even gotten yet.

    But say they’re right, isn’t that what America needs, a guy who knows how to stiff creditors? See you people had the chance to elect Mitt Romney, a turnaround artist, a guy who’s really, really good at taking busted companies and fixing them. But instead you elected Obama, who’s doubled the national debt to $20 trillion, and when you count the unfunded obligations it’s more like 80 or 100 trillion, and America’s never gonna be able to pay all that. Never! We’re only still in business now because the Treasury’s good at stringing people along, and believe me, that’s something I understand too.

    So when we go bust — and we will — don’t you want a guy at the helm who can stiff his creditors and still come out smelling like a rose? Of course you do! And that’s me, not Crooked Hillary!”

    Hell, in this election season, that might just work.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/235936/

    Colonel Haiku (f00165)

  94. Few victories are painless and bloodless. If Hillary is the sacrifice we have to make in order to stop Trump’s evil, we should bite the bullet and do it. Think of the 126,000 Americans and 84,000 British killed or wounded on the beaches of Normandy. Hillary wouldn’t faze them. Fix bayonets, men!

    nk (dbc370)

  95. More on “becankle”…

    4. To allow oneself to be made Hillary Clinton’s “b*tch”, akin to an anthropomorphic form of a “Glass Ceiling” or Huma Abedin.

    Colonel Haiku (f00165)

  96. HMM: “I think this Barack Obama campaigning for Hillary is cover. She’s going to get indicted. He knows she’s going to get indicted. He’ll be able to say, ‘I didn’t know. Why would I be campaigning for her?’”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/235935/

    Colonel Haiku (f00165)

  97. If Hillary is the sacrifice we have to make in order to stop Trump’s evil, we should bite the bullet and do it.

    Obviously nk, you can’t tell the difference between shady and evil. I’ll give you an example: evil is using the sacrifices of our troops in battle to endorse a vile communist collaborator over an imperfect capitalist cheat. But I guess once you’re all-in 4Hillary!, you’re all-in.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  98. Mr. Trump is not evil he is good, like Jesus.

    He’ll help make America great again just like Jesus would if he wasn’t so busy doing Jesus stuff.

    And you know what else?

    We’re gonna have a super-fun time making America great again.

    Cause food stamp’s loser ass will be history, and America will at long last be free of his loathsome and persistent raping.

    Can I get a hell yeah?

    happyfeet (831175)

  99. If Obama has decided to indict Hillary his endorsement will go a long way toward deflecting criticism for throwing her under the bus, and it helps keep her voters in line. Plus it honors his pledge to Bill Clinton – Clinton endorsed Obama in 2008 in exchange for Obama’s future endorsement of Hillary.

    ropelight (596f46)

  100. You should have killed all of us communists when you had the chance, Hoagie. You act like you’re hoping that Trump will give you another opportunity.

    Leviticus (4dd7a3)

  101. fine summon the kraken, don’t be surprised when you get crushed by the tentacles, though,

    narciso (732bc0)

  102. oh pikachu

    your braggy lie lie boyfriend what doesnt pay his bills and the spraytan and orange combover is no jesus

    not even kanye

    i smell desperation like on “the sycophantic boywives of chicago no-hope”

    you are just dancing around the funeral pyre of our nation

    dance monkey dance

    even paula abdul straight up cant help you

    trumpyfeet (c8876d)

  103. You know that half the world went Communist after WWII, right? Eastern Europe, China, a bunch of other places. It was the fallout, just like the fallout from the nukes at Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Did we say, “We shouldn’t defeat Hitler and Hirohito because Stalin and Mao will win”? No, we did not. We did what had to be done to eradicate the more immediate evil.

    nk (dbc370)

  104. Mr. Trump’s the answer to the question, “what do you wanna do instead of electing a feral criminal old skank-woman what smells like pee and animal crackers?”

    happyfeet (831175)

  105. no, it was the communist exploiting the turmoil of the post war era, they didn’t really fight the japanese as much as they pretended to, most soe drops went against the future caretaker regime, then against the nazis, (h/t max hastings)

    narciso (732bc0)

  106. nk (dbc370) — 6/10/2016 @ 4:16 pm

    This is exactly the problem with saying that the invasion of Iraq and the pverthrow of Qaddafi was a mistake (and made things worse)

    The mistakes happened later or on the side, although some were kind of inevitable.

    All the people who predicted disaster in Iraq were wrong. They predicted it would be hard to defeat Saddam Hussein. They did not foresee a seesaw – a U in war. This was so much a thing that happened later that someone wrote a book “Expert Political Judgment” about how what experts predicted was wrong – and according to one Amazon review what was wrong is they predicted the war would not go well.

    http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7959.html

    I never saw this book so I don’t really know what it says, except that experts are more wrong tahn ordinary people.

    Sammy Finkelman (be1e2f)

  107. well in germany, the war did cause similar effects, (sebestyen, 1946), similarly in eastern europe,

    narciso (732bc0)

  108. of course, what did they think would happen if the wmd’s were readily accessible they would have been used, much the way we see islamic state employ them, had they ready access to yellowcake they would have turned into a dirty bomb,

    narciso (732bc0)

  109. I do not insist that it’s an exact analogy. I know Hitler and Stalin both had moustaches.

    nk (dbc370)

  110. Mistakes made in 1945 and 1946 caused Mao’s victory in China, especially trying to make peace. They could have been defeated. There’s even a recent book by a New York Times reporter about that.

    https://www.amazon.com/China-1945-Revolution-Americas-Fateful/dp/0307595889/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465602033&sr=8-1&keywords=china+1945

    Read the review by Chefdevergue for instance. (he still thinks only alarge number of troops could have done in. Theer were maybe two turning points. At one point an offensive by Chiang was stopped.)

    I think there’s another book, too that focues on 1946.

    Sammy Finkelman (be1e2f)

  111. yes, that account, leaves too much in the hands of the Chinese Communists,

    narciso (732bc0)

  112. of course there was corruption in chiang’s china, honestly where isn’t there, as there was under the tsaldaris regime after the war,

    narciso (732bc0)

  113. the last R president slaughtered thousands of our own soldiers

    Those would be the “tatted up illiterates” you once referred to during one of your tiresome attempts to be witty, right slappyfeet?

    Jack Klompus (22ffc6)

  114. Consistency from feets is blood from a stone. Don’t bother. He’s looking over his shoulder at the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

    Leviticus (4dd7a3)

  115. salty!

    happyfeet (831175)

  116. Hahahaha… all these flavors, feets, and you chose to be salty!

    That’s okay. There’s utility in every part of the ecosystem. I appreciate your role as a Chappelle-style equal opportunity hater.

    Leviticus (4dd7a3)

  117. Regardless of who you are going to support this coming November, please try to be as condescending as possible and assume the worst of everyone you disagree with.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  118. yes yes this is true i’m just not terribly thrilled with a whole lot of nothing

    happyfeet (831175)

  119. Nope, my eye is on the prize. Trump slinking away a bitter and disappointed old doofus (to a prison cell would be a nice touch). What some may see as condescension is refusing to be swayed by irrelevancies or frightened by chimeras. #nevertrump

    nk (dbc370)

  120. srsly?

    this is a real actual headline from amazonslut jeff bezos’s toy newspaper

    Washington Post

    Trump’s ‘Pocahontas’ attack leaves fellow Republicans squirming (again)

    happyfeet (831175)

  121. well unicorns qualify as chimeras, perhaps as aspida,

    narciso (732bc0)

  122. No #nevertrump/4hillary!, it’s condescension. The only ones who don’t see it are the ones that share in it.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  123. Well, I don’t think I’m being condescending. Just talking about important things that you wouldn’t understand.

    nk (dbc370)

  124. Why would a serious Presidential candidate call a U.S. Senator “Pocahontas”? Only a demented old closet tranny would do that.

    And you know the demented old buffoon meant to say Fauxahontas but that’s not one of the things that he can remember anymore.

    nk (dbc370)

  125. it shows how patently ridiculous she is, I probably have more indian (taino) blood than she,

    narciso (732bc0)

  126. that still doesn’t explain who exactly is squirming

    i’m certainly not squirming

    maybe pervy mitt romney is squirming but he probably just got excited again from watching pee-wee herman reruns

    happyfeet (831175)

  127. Me, too, on my fourth grade classmate’s college roommate’s bridesmaid’s cousin’s side.

    But it’s still Fuaxahontas for one thing; and the old asshole should make some effort not to talk like a middle-schooler on Instagram all the damn time for another. Show some dignity befitting the “presumptive nominee” of the Republican Party on occasion, nicht wahr?

    nk (dbc370)

  128. have you sampled the length and breath of this wonderful polity,

    https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/741342283191181312/photo/1

    narciso (732bc0)

  129. I like Lieawatha.
    Ojibwe from my fathers mom.

    mg (31009b)

  130. Is the time arriving for HC to enter the cuckoo’s nest?

    mg (31009b)

  131. yes, she’s stable, as much as harry mudd’s androids,

    narciso (732bc0)

  132. Hillary today:

    “We need to defend Planned Parenthood against partisan attacks,” Clinton said. “If right-wing politicians actually cared as much about protecting women’s health as they say they do, they’d join me in calling for more federal funding for Planned Parenthood.”

    I guess the #neverTrumps are now happy with the murder of babies since they think Hillary! is better than trump. Dustin, nk, when did you become pro abortion on demand with tax payer funding? Now that you came out as leftists it all makes sense.

    Yeah, narciso, she’s stable all right.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  133. gotta nevertrump them fetuses it’s the only way they learn

    gotta nevertrump them fetuses with stinky-pee or bern

    it’s all about tough love

    happyfeet (831175)

  134. I don’t think you give a rats patoot, slater, but this is quite serious,

    narciso (732bc0)

  135. Trump only changed his position on abortion for this campaign. He’s on record as being in favor of late-term abortion. I heard him, with my own two shell-like ears say “Planned Parenthood does great work” in one of the debates. There’s nothing wrong with my memory.

    On all the moral issues, Trump is a libertine. (That’s not the same as a libertarian, BTW.)

    And one more BTW. When did you become a Republican and pro-life, happyfeet? Nobody tells me anything.

    nk (dbc370)

  136. someone’s gotta step up

    happyfeet (831175)

  137. there are so many things wrong with allowing red queen in the oval office, I listed just a few, have we not learned any lessons from the last eight years, rhetorical?

    narciso (732bc0)

  138. I respect a #neverhillary position. It reminds me of something … I can’t quite put my finger on it … wait, wait, it’ll come to me …. 😉

    Yeah, we’re screwed.

    nk (dbc370)

  139. All these denunciations of Trump, while providing cover for the malevolent Cackling Cankles is wearying.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  140. Rev H
    I thought you realized Trump is a pathological liar and none of his promises (or as he calls them now, suggestions) can be relied on.

    You don’t understand that he will fully fund PP and use that as evidence he is a great negotiator?

    I thought you supported him simply because you think he is not quite as bad as Hillary, and will do less damage to the Republic than she will–ideas I disagree with but which I can respect as rational. But now I see you think Trump is a real conservative, even though he is as much an authoritarian statist and as much a corrupt liar as she is.
    You should realize that opposing Trump is for many of us the right thing to do—using “right” in both the moral and political meanings of the word.

    To see a man of your intelligence fall for such a con as Trump is depressing.

    kishnevi (35d300)

  141. there are so many things wrong with allowing red queen in the oval office,

    Replace the reference to Hillary in that sentence with a reference to Donald, and it will be equally true.

    The main difference between the two is that one has male gonads and the other female gonads.

    kishnevi (35d300)

  142. Romney was right on so many things in 2012.

    He will get to say “I told you so” on Trump, too.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  143. Exactly Half of Voters Found Trump’s Judge Statements “Racist”
    —Ace

    “And yet nearly 100% of the media, the GOP establishment, and the conservative intellectual class found them “racist.”

    So what can we determine based on this?

    Well, here are the possibilities:

    1. That the media, the GOP establishment, and the conservative intellectual class are simply better — smarter, more perceptive, more moral — than the stupid fucking American voters they hover above on their gossamer thrones of cloudwisp and starshine.

    2. That the media, GOP establishment, and conservative intellectual class share similar cultural/class inputs which lead them to think in exactly the same way, and the lack of intellectual diversity among them tends to make them miss things that other people know, and furthermore, their intellectual insularity — forever talking only to each other, and carefully curating out of their timelines anyone from any different sort of background — then hardens them in their unchallenged opinion.

    For example, Ginch Bangwell (Kurt Schlichter), who is a practicing lawyer, said the first thing every lawyer does when he gets a judge assigned to a case is check his background.

    But, to hear the professional middle class/media/conservative intellectual class tell it, such calculations and guesses are wholly inappropriate and are textbook racism and no one who is involved in a legal matter should ever make guesses about judge behavior based on “profiling.”

    Or, as a commenter put it here: Certainly, it is not the case that every prosecutor tries to stirke as many black women from a jury as the constitution will permit, and every defense attorney definitely does not try to strike every middle-aged white man from the jury.

    I mean — it’s ideologically forbidden. And Theory is all that matters in the real world.

    Theory’s all that matters, guys. And certainly an Intellectual Class should be proud and even arrogant about its utter lack of contact with the real world…”

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/363989.php

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  144. Again, if the ONLY argument you guys have left to get us to vote for Trump is “OH GOD NOT HILLARY!!!” then maybe we should have a better candidate than Crazy Donnie. Any of use could name 10.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  145. Exactly Half of Voters Found Trump’s Judge Statements “Racist”
    —Ace

    “And yet nearly 100% of the media, the GOP establishment, and the conservative intellectual class found them “racist.”

    So what can we determine based on this?

    Well, here are the possibilities:

    1. That the media, the GOP establishment, and the conservative intellectual class are simply better — smarter, more perceptive, more moral — than the stupid f**king American voters they hover above on their gossamer thrones of cloudwisp and starshine.

    2. That the media, GOP establishment, and conservative intellectual class share similar cultural/class inputs which lead them to think in exactly the same way, and the lack of intellectual diversity among them tends to make them miss things that other people know, and furthermore, their intellectual insularity — forever talking only to each other, and carefully curating out of their timelines anyone from any different sort of background — then hardens them in their unchallenged opinion.

    For example, Ginch Bangwell (Kurt Schlichter), who is a practicing lawyer, said the first thing every lawyer does when he gets a judge assigned to a case is check his background.

    But, to hear the professional middle class/media/conservative intellectual class tell it, such calculations and guesses are wholly inappropriate and are textbook racism and no one who is involved in a legal matter should ever make guesses about judge behavior based on “profiling.”

    Or, as a commenter put it here: Certainly, it is not the case that every prosecutor tries to stirke as many black women from a jury as the constitution will permit, and every defense attorney definitely does not try to strike every middle-aged white man from the jury.

    I mean — it’s ideologically forbidden. And Theory is all that matters in the real world.

    Theory’s all that matters, guys. And certainly an Intellectual Class should be proud and even arrogant about its utter lack of contact with the real world…”

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/363989.php

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  146. If beating Hillary is the most important thing, let the convention choose. Clearly the primary voters have failed.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  147. As they pontificate from Mt. Merde

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  148. Frankly the last two times, the primaries, vomited up candidates which were inconstant in their efforts against the opposition, the fact that the party couldn’t consolidate behind one candidate early on, isn’t trump’s fault,

    narciso (732bc0)

  149. The original Zapruder film, that was evidence.

    This copy here is like, “Zapruder Film; The ride!” (YouTube)
    You get the full Zapruder experience. You can smell the grass. You can hear the splat.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  150. you know they really don’t want to beat red queen, just like they didn’t want to beat obama,
    it’s better to gripe and blame squirrels like demography, rather than an alternate strategy,
    now this trump’s is strictly delta house, ramming speed, highly risky, but it’s better than the oliver twist ‘please sir may I have some more’

    many of the major players in the willing for hillary circle, where the ones who not only watched the huntress be burned at the stake but handed out torches, some of these like kevin madden and donald jones, were hired by romney, part of a job well done, mike murphy well nuff’s been said about him for a generation, gerson, douthat, parker, frum, of course brooks.

    narciso (732bc0)

  151. Rafael should have written the book.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  152. now paper, oswald went to russia, married the daughter of the local militia, came back after contacting future officials in cuban intelligence, dated an official of that country’s consulate in mexico, where do all the arrows point,

    narciso (732bc0)

  153. Never has the phrase “put lipstick on a pig” been more appropriate than the way Trump supporters downplay, make excuses for, or outright lie about, Trump’s spit-flecked inanities.

    nk (dbc370)

  154. Well, heck, if the Colonel can quote Ace, so can I:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/363918.php

    First of all, I have heard that there are in fact schemes a-brewing to replace Trump with Ryan at the convention. How, you say? Well, simply by rewriting all the rules to allow delegates to vote as they will, for any candidate.

    Now you may say “But that’s extreme; they’d destroy the party.”

    Yes, but there are two competing considerations:

    1. Elite GOP opinion– the Upper Middle Class and Capital Class that controls the party — is horribly embarrassed by Trump, and, little secret, they run this thing. You vote in it, but they run it.

    And the people who run it can change the rules as they like.

    2. Trump appears to be a likely loser. While he briefly pulled even with Hillary a couple of weeks ago — when he had wrapped up the nomination, but she had not — he is now slipping behind again. A Reuters poll just put him down by 11 — 46 to 35, or something like that.

    It is one thing to go to an election with a Glorious Loser, one who will lose, but who, in doing so, makes his supporters proud and #Feelz good about themselves. A moral victory, sometimes even sweeter than an actual victory.

    It’s quite another thing to go to an election with an Embarrassing Loser. Someone who not only loses, but makes you feel dirty in losing.

    Well, to the Elite that control this party, Trump is looking more and more like an Embarrassing Loser.

    So that’s what I take all this judge bullsh*t to be about — the psyops necessary to justify the party rewriting the rules and kicking Trump the hell out.

    Yes, the Elite would lose the election if it does so. But they increasingly believe there is no way to avoid that.

    They would be playing for the Moral Victory — the beautiful loss that makes people #feelz good about their #Principlez.

    Now, it may surprise you — or not — to know I’m not necessarily against any of this.

    Trump won fair and square, yeah. (Sort of.)

    But ask me how much I fuc*ing care about that.

    Let me explain my entire political raison d’etre:

    BEAT HILLARY CLINTON.

    That’s it. That’s the ballgame.

    and also this money quote:

    He’s alienating the hell out of them. He’s making them feel as if they’d be supporting a racist pornographer child molester if they voted for him.”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  155. The public has never seen the original Zapruder film. The best film was taken by The Babushka Lady from the opposite side of Elm Street. It clearly shows the brake lights, the brief stop, the head shot, and the subsequent rush to Parkland Hospital.

    ropelight (596f46)

  156. what moral victory, such self indulgent twaddle, when the first nuke goes off the first time ‘in anger’ after nagasaki, where will that victory stand, when they push forward on their plan to shut down coal plants, and there are brownouts like venezuela, there is a whole lot of unseriousness here.

    narciso (732bc0)

  157. snowden’s stenographer, has an interesting pedigree,

    https://visiitor.wordpress.com/2014/08/22/up-from-nonviolence-a-catholic-worker-in-cuba/

    narciso (732bc0)

  158. For example, Ginch Bangwell (Kurt Schlichter), who is a practicing lawyer, said the first thing every lawyer does when he gets a judge assigned to a case is check his background.

    But, to hear the professional middle class/media/conservative intellectual class tell it, such calculations and guesses are wholly inappropriate and are textbook racism and no one who is involved in a legal matter should ever make guesses about judge behavior based on “profiling.”

    Of course lawyers do that…was he a prosecutor or a civil ligitator….is he strict with sentencing….how does he rule on various standard motions…who he went to law school with…what legal associations does he belong to…
    The sort of things which indicate how his rulings will go. And whether his parents were born in Mexico has little to do with it.

    Which is why it is not the same as Donald’s whining.

    kishnevi (35d300)

  159. If people had to write out the President’s name on the ballot without a crib sheet, Trump in a walk.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  160. well there was only one case of note, before this when he ruled for an ‘shovel ready’ clean energy sinecure, over a tribe of indians, yes the national boycott his group had sponsored nearly a year ago, should have been of note, but it probably ironically gave him street cred,
    to a degree,

    narciso (732bc0)

  161. 159
    What does that have to do with Snowden?
    I know he is merely another in the long line of Soviet stooges, but is there a direct connection to Scahill?

    kishnevi (35d300)

  162. Judge Curiel’s parents were Mexicans before Trump started wetting his pants about the case. Not that it would have succeeded, but a motion for substitution of judge should have been made right at the start.

    nk (dbc370)

  163. really you haven’t been paying attention,

    http://www.democracynow.org/2013/12/5/there_is_a_war_on_journalism

    narciso (732bc0)

  164. 165

    Ah, thanks. Then even Reynolds must realize he’s a Soviet stooge.

    kishnevi (35d300)

  165. Kevin M,

    Assume what Ace wrote is an accurate reading of the GOPe mindset. If so, then the last thing they should want to do is sacrifice Ryan in a losing cause. Ryan is a potential 2020 competitor. They should replace Trump with Cruz if they really think this election is lost. That would get rid of two problems in one election.

    DRJ (15874d)

  166. it seems to run in the family, it was the old christopher boyce playbook, from the 70, which was made into a movie in the 80s, right around the time Ames was considering become a mole for the russians,

    narciso (732bc0)

  167. the problem is they should have rallied behind cruz, more solidly and more immediately, now you have to ask why they didn’t, they picked the lame medici for start, and the more able rubio for place, and mailman’s son, well he was as show,

    narciso (732bc0)

  168. “Would a President Cruz build a wall along the entire Southern border and if you were President, would you appoint Donald Trump to build that wall?” asked Kuhner.
    “Absolutely yes on both fronts,” responded Cruz.

    We’re just cutting out the middle man. Economizing.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  169. Instead of dreaming it, you should get on the horn to Cruz headquarters, and talk him into mending bridges. We need powerful assassination insurance at VP.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  170. Assume what Ace wrote is an accurate reading of the GOPe mindset. If so, then the last thing they should want to do is sacrifice Ryan in a losing cause. Ryan is a potential 2020 competitor.

    Actually, if you read the whole thing, Ace suggests Tom Cotten. Ryan’s busy, and besides, he cannot placate the Trump crowd in the slightest.

    And even if you didn’t care about that, and you needed a credible placeholder who stood a chance, you’d run Romney, not Ryan. Romney at least has made all his mistakes and could hit the ground running. And he does have that “I told you so, will you PLEASE listen this time” argument. I know moderate Democrats who respect Romney and might vote for him, where they would never in a million years consider Trump.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  171. By the way, just by pure coincidence, the movers and shakes of the GOP are meeting in Utah at the “Romney summit”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/10/paul-ryan-put-in-the-hot-seat-about-trump-endorsement-at-romney-summit/

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  172. I agree Romney makes more sense from the establishment standpoint. They aren’t hurt if he loses and they win big if wons.

    DRJ (15874d)

  173. Wins, not wons.

    DRJ (15874d)

  174. They still have a Cruz problem but maybe they figure he’s no longer a threat.

    DRJ (15874d)

  175. On the other hand, if this election has taught us anything, it is that the establishment isn’t very good at identifying who is a threat.

    DRJ (15874d)

  176. do they ever accomplish anything productive at these gatherings, both ryan and mcconnell’s endorsements have shown themselves to be hollow endorsers, but that has been the story of the last six years, they pretend to repeal obama, oppose the rhodes roadshow, but it’s all for show,

    narciso (732bc0)

  177. well they spent 62 million pounding trump, a 10/1 ratio in total spending,

    narciso (732bc0)

  178. hoagie,

    I didn’t really understand your comment directed at me aside from some effort to make it personal. I wasn’t insulting anyone. I provided arguments. The only argument I see in reply is that Hillary is very bad. And she is, but I ask for some analysis of how she’s worse than Trump and you guys never seem to come up with anything.

    Your effort to say I’m a hillary fan is dishonest.

    Also, you do not understand the term ‘fear’ or ‘coward’. Fear is a gift. You cannot be brave without fear, and you also can’t survive without it. That people are afraid of Hillary is no surprise and not an insult to them. I’m just more afraid of a Trump presidency than a Hillary one. You interpreting this as a slight at your manhood is a cause for some introspection. But why not stop making it personal? You’re starting to sound like papertiger. If you don’t recognize why that’s a bad thing then I’m wasting my time, but I usually think you’re a cut above the happyfeets and papertigers on here.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  179. that’s rhetorical, they clearly don’t

    narciso (732bc0)

  180. yes the battle was the primary they lost, trump was far from my favorite, but the enemy lies ahead of us,

    narciso (732bc0)

  181. About Trump and abortion (among other things)
    https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/06/07/donald-trumps-rise-spells-disaster-for-social-conservatives/

    Donald Trump is a wild card—and not in a good way. Most everyone not named Sarah Palin or Dennis Rodman recognizes that. Electing Trump as president is a game of Russian roulette that has ‘sobbing while curled up in the fetal position’ as the best possible outcome. The fact that the Donald has a penchant for not paying his creditors and investors is common knowledge. So common, in fact, that it boggles the minds of those of us in the #NeverTrump crowd that supposed conservatives are willing to turn this country’s economic reins over to a default- and bankruptcy-loving man. It doesn’t seem to phase Trump’s supposed pro-life supporters that the praises of Planned Parenthood goose-step off of his lips. His constant waffling on gay marriage is apparently a non-issue for Trumpkins who claim that God instituted marriage to be between one man and one woman. And sadly, Christians who profess support for North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory apparently plug their ears whenever Trump states his support for transgender persons using the bathroom of their choosing.

    Ellis’s overall point is that Trump Ascending will result in social conservative issues being not merely pushed to the side but abandoned altogether.

    kishnevi (35d300)

  182. or may be it’s like macho grande, anchorage, wichita, and biloxi, to hell with what the people did,

    narciso (732bc0)

  183. What’s more annoying than a President pushing his morality on you?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  184. Trumpkins.

    nk (dbc370)

  185. ah the #willing for hillary, this is what’s it about, max boot has gone practically virgil on the subject, james kirchik a little less so,

    narciso (732bc0)

  186. Seriously. That way goes the deliberate bankrupting of coal mines. The banning of fracking. The defacto banning of domestic oil by blocking pipelines.

    All of these terrible things because some inculcated azwad beyond our reach thinks his is the correct morals.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  187. Do they have a Pope or a head shaman of the U.N.?

    Because that would be Obama’s natural habitat.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  188. Are you nuts, is that your problem?

    nk (dbc370)

  189. 191 was for 188

    nk (dbc370)

  190. This week on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Esquire Editor-in-Chief Jay Fielden describes sending one of his liberal journalists to the U.S.-Mexico border to find out what the locals are saying about illegal immigration. The journalist came back agreeing with Donald Trump saying, “Build that wall.”

    Fielden went into detail about this accidental journalism:

    “You gotta go down there with no preconceived notions, right, just an empty notebook. Go to my former home state and walk the border, drive the border 800 miles and talk to whoever you see and let them tell us what they think about what’s really going on — whether we need a wall, in fact. Instead of hearing it from the debate stage, let’s hear it from the people who are down there everyday.”

    The locals’ conclusion? “They said, ‘Build the wall,'” according to Fielden. “They said two things — whether Hispanic, Anglo, Democrat, Republican, uncommitted, clueless, whatever — they said, ‘We want a wall and yet, we want it to be married with some compassion for the people we’re trying to keep from jumping over the wall.'”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  191. Oops. Forgot the video.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  192. Are you nuts, is that your problem?

    nk (dbc370) — 6/10/2016 @ 9:10 pm

    191 was for 188

    nk (dbc370) — 6/10/2016 @ 9:10 pm

    What? You think they do it because they are evil? Strong argument, but

    nefarious people never think of themselves as villains.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  193. Correct the Record, a super PAC supporting Hillary Clinton’s bid to become US president, has promised to invest more than $1 million to respond to users criticizing its candidate on Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Instagram, and other social media services. The super PAC says its new “Barrier Breakers digital task force” will respond “quickly and forcefully to negative attacks and false narratives found online,” in addition to thanking major supporters and “committed superdelegates” directly.

    In a press release, Correct the Record said its new initiative was inspired by interactions with Bernie Sanders supporters. So-called “Bernie Bros” have become a phenomenon online, sharing their chosen candidate’s videos, pictures, and memes across social media services. Hillary Clinton’s supporters appear to be quieter on Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, and the like, but Correct the Record said that this doesn’t reflect a lack of enthusiasm — rather, that they were often afraid to speak up about their choice because they fear harassment. “Many of Hillary Clinton’s female supporters in particular,” the press release reads, “have been subject to intense cyber-bullying and sexist attacks from swarms of anonymous attackers.”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  194. Never forget. Either Hillary or Trump will be President in Jan 2017.

    cedarhill (abed02)

  195. Actually, Senator Cruz was fighting Obamacare,

    Really??? So Obamacare was repealed in any way or amount due to a bill introduced or sponsored by Ted? Nope. So he did exactly squat except make noise.

    amnesty,

    So that’s why he worked for the passage of comprehensive immigration “reform” and added his own amendment that would have allowed illegals to stay in the US indefinitely, without even a requirement that they attempt to become citizens?

    and excessive government spending.

    Which he showed by voting against the defense spending bill three years in a row. In fact, I can’t find a single spending authorization bill he has voted for. That’s not leadership or principles, unless you think there should be no government at all. I note he never introduced any bills to reduce his own salary or the funding for his staff. Hmm.

    He did alienate those who profit from a big government, but the purpose was clear, and it wasn’t Cruz’s entertainment.

    Oh, you mean like how he alienated the Chamber of Commerce and other big money business interests when he introduced legislation to increase H1B visas by 500%? But you are right, the purpose was clear. Ted always does what will benefit Ted down the road, and since he doesn’t know exactly what will benefit him in the future, he plays both sides so that he can claim to have taken either side later. Add an amendment to a defense bill, vote against the bill, but claim credit for the provision he put in that he then voted against. Talk to veterans, “See, I supported our military by adding these provisions”. Talk to a fiscal conservative “See, I oppose wasteful spending”. Talk to a strict constitutionalist “See, I oppose the the indefinite confinement of Americans who are fighting for the enemy”. No matter who he is talking to, he can point to the same bill and claim it shows how much he aligns with his audience. Same with immigration. Offered amendments that would have allowed illegals to stay here legally forever and made numerous statements of support. When the bill failed, and he was running for President with an opponent whose signature issue was illegal immigration, those actions became sly machinations meant to disclose the evil of the supporters of the bill (but not him, even though he supported it). Had Trump not been in the race, Cruz would have pointed to the same actions and claimed that he was for “reasonable” immigration reform and had worked hard to get just such a bill passed.

    He talks the part of a maverick (sound like a previous failed Republican presidential hopeful?) by making statements and casting meaningless votes. But when the chips are down, he falls right in line and casts the votes he is told to.

    prowlerguy (fa36d8)

  196. Now you’re being silly between Reid’s obstructionism and Mcdonnell’s sleepwalking bill, they couldn’t get a repeal bill together, subsequently they fully funded robertscare abc moloch’s minions through is year, but they did nothing about the rhodes roadshow, they couldn’t get sasse to go along with lee and cotton,

    narciso (732bc0)

  197. The truth is not in Trumpkins.

    nk (dbc370)

  198. Not in Trumpkins the truth is. ?

    nk (dbc370)

  199. The truth not in Trumpkins is. ?

    nk (dbc370)

  200. Well the truth is not in the competing narrative either, what part did PAul singer play in blackballing Cruz, because he is an outspoken Christian, there is practically no resistance against the administrative juggernaut in every front,

    narciso (732bc0)

  201. Now do we think it was just happenstance that put Fernando on the board, he can’t be the only high frequency trader that has contributed to red queen,

    narciso (732bc0)

  202. Trump uses Obama ’08 ad to attack Clinton

    Obama endorses. The next day Trump breaks out with this. He’s like the Steven Seagal of politics.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  203. As it turns out fernando raised half a million for Obama, and was a red queen contributor back to 2007 (open secrets) so what his angle?

    narciso (732bc0)

  204. Another member on that same board was cirincione of plowshares, that ran the astroturf for the rhodes road show. You still think it was only about money?

    narciso (732bc0)

  205. I didn’t really understand your comment directed at me aside from some effort to make it personal. I wasn’t insulting anyone.

    Dustin, I thought it was quite clear that you often start calling opponents “cowards” or “afraid” and I think that is getting both personal and insulting.

    I provided arguments. The only argument I see in reply is that Hillary is very bad. And she is, but I ask for some analysis of how she’s worse than Trump and you guys never seem to come up with anything.

    Dustin, are you honestly telling me you’ve been on this blog for all this time and you haven’t heard ad nausea all the arguments as to why Hillary! is worse? I hope you’re kidding because if you’re not then you have a serious problem. All of us, even the #nevertrump’s have listed her nefarious, traitorous bona fides a thousand times. Acting like you don’t know or putting your fingers in your ears and going lalalalal, won’t cut it.

    Also, you do not understand the term ‘fear’ or ‘coward’.

    I most certainly do understand the words ‘fear’ and ‘coward’, Dustin. And although a healthy dose of fear under appropriate circumstances can be a good thing being a yellow-belly coward is never a good thing. I suggest you don’t know what fear is and confuse it with concern and apprehension in politics.

    You say: “Fear is a gift. You cannot be brave without fear, and you also can’t survive without it”. Only one definition of bravery is overcoming fear. The other is having no fear to begin with.

    That people are afraid of Hillary is no surprise and not an insult to them. I’m just more afraid of a Trump presidency than a Hillary one.

    I think the only people “afraid” of Hilary! are Bill and the poor unfortunates that work for her.

    You interpreting this as a slight at your manhood is a cause for some introspection.

    You misconstrue, Dustin. I interpret this as a slight against my honor, my manhood is incontestable.

    Your effort to say I’m a hillary fan is dishonest.

    Relax, it was no effort at all. But I didn’t say “fan” I was going for more of a 4Hillary! supporter than an actual fan of the witch. I figure one does not need to agree with, be a fan of or even like Hillary! to be a supporter. One only needs to constantly b!tch about Trump and convince enough people by doing that to vote for Hillary!.

    But why not stop making it personal? You’re starting to sound like papertiger. If you don’t recognize why that’s a bad thing then I’m wasting my time, but I usually think you’re a cut above the happyfeets and papertigers on here.

    I’m not trying to make it personal, I never do. On occasion I have said things I regretted and apologized. And happyfeet, papertiger and ropelight are entitled to their opinions and they’re big boys and will defend the same. They don’t need me. But I try and be fair, especially to fellow conservatives before I begin calling them names.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  206. Whatever, he went all rabid during macho grand, the last two minute hate, its his right of course, but it colors one’s perspective.

    narciso (732bc0)

  207. A little confession. I love the smell of my own bs, so you’ve got to point specific if the pile gets too big.

    If you bad mouth me in the third or fourth paragraph I won’t respond. That’s your free range.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  208. Trump is walking out of one his rallies, when he sees someone he recognizes as his loudest supporter standing in front of the soda machine in the hallway saying, “You are a dumb looking button. You don’t have much of a future, either. People are going to be punching you all your life. You are a
    natural loser! Then you are going to be replaced by a much better looking button.” Trump asks the Trumpkin, “I like the way you talk but what exactly is it that you’re doing?” And the Trumpkin points to the block writing on the button: “Depress button for ice.”

    nk (dbc370)

  209. Said per Catherine herridge, is charging guccifer as a Russian hacker, a taxi driver with a home made snuffer, doesn’t pass the smell test,

    narciso (732bc0)

  210. Say… Isn’t the HUD jefe that little blond-haired maricon Julian Castro?

    “YOU WILL BE MADE TO CARE: Federal Officials Push To Urbanize Suburbia Under New HUD Regulation.

    In its final months, the Obama administration has set up a strategy to bring inner city living to the suburbs by deploying three federal agencies to dictate to states and local communities how to set up schools, housing and mass transit.

    It’s all part of a federal push to reduce economic and racial segregation in favor of diversity.

    The Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) expanded the reach of its Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing (AFFH) rule to two other federal agencies: the Department of Transportation and the Department of Education.

    AFFH is a rule established by HUD last year that requires any nationwide locality that receives block grant funding from the agency to rezone neighborhoods based on income and racial prerequisites.

    Just more “Curley Effect” tinkering designed to create Democratic voters.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/10/federal-officials-push-to-urbanize-suburbia-under-new-hud-regulation/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  211. Blumenthal, tie be clear,

    narciso (732bc0)

  212. Hillary “Cankles” Clinton was a First Lady whose major policy responsibility ended up in a fiasco so egregious that it was not even brought up to a vote by a Democrat-controlled Congress. On the strength of sympathy for her as the scorned wife she was elected senator against weak opposition. She served for eight years in the Senate without having done anything there that anyone can remember. Then she served four years as Secretary of State and still has no accomplishments from that job that she can brag about. But she certainly had a hand in helping to lay waste to the Middle East, Northern Africa and sowing the destructive seeds that will change Europe, and not for the better.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  213. So what you’re saying Colonel, is HUD is going to use our tax money to relocate the very people we moved away from the city to escape back into our neighborhoods. 4Hillary!

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  214. You betcha, but trump university or something.

    narciso (732bc0)

  215. Yes to both Hoagie and narciso

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  216. Tell your village not to take HUD block grants and you’ll be alright.

    My cleaning lady drives (a Lexus) so I don’t need a bus route for her, and my landscapers have their trucks.

    nk (dbc370)

  217. As if it was that easy, its the comfortable feeling parisians feel with the ban lies right near them, also molenbeek.

    narciso (732bc0)

  218. Passes nk’s smell test. What’s to worry?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  219. “Campaign Announces Clinton Has Entered Incubation Period After Securing Nomination”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  220. You guys make me laugh. Daddy Fred made his fortune with government housing contracts. Barracks during the war and FHA and G.I. Bill housing for returning veterans after. If Trump is President, HUD will grow to ten times its present size and will be a cash cow for the Trump family and Trump cronies.

    nk (dbc370)

  221. That’s where you’re wrong. Mr. Trump will do the good policies.

    happyfeet (831175)

  222. Maynard Keynes meets Buggsy Siegel is not good policies.

    nk (dbc370)

  223. “Hillary “Cankles” Clinton was a First Lady whose major policy responsibility ended up in a fiasco so egregious that it was not even brought up to a vote by a Democrat-controlled Congress.”

    – Colonel Haiku

    Hillary Clinton was the first First Lady in generations to take on a major policy responsibility at all. She probably didn’t realize how much that would bother America’s endlessly insecure male populace.

    Leviticus (1b20f0)

  224. She shoulda just stayed in the kitchen.

    Leviticus channeling Trumpkins (1b20f0)

  225. They roll over on to their backs, but they shouldn’t expect a belly scratch…

    “I’M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN LOSING A JOB IN HOLLYWOOD BECAUSE OF YOUR POLITICS WAS CONSIDERED EVIL: New Hollywood Blacklist: Vote GOP, Lose Gigs.

    Related: Stacey Dash: “My agent just dropped me because of my politics.”

    And yet Hollywood still cranks out the annual obligatory blacklist picture, even knowing that they’ll bomb at the box office, as Oscar bait, and cable TV fodder. (Last year’s Trumbo, whose titular subject was both pro-Stalin, and during the Nazi-Soviet nonaggression pact, pro-Hitler as well, grossed a paltry $7.3 million at the US box office, despite massive amounts of industry hype.)

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236001/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  226. My mother never baked ME cookies.

    Colonel Haiku Channeling Leviticus (2601c0)

  227. Hillary Clinton was the first First Lady in generations to take on a major policy responsibility at all. She probably didn’t realize how much that would bother America’s endlessly insecure male populace.
    Leviticus (1b20f0) — 6/11/2016 @ 9:39 am

    If you’re not just trying to have fun and be provocative with that statement you’re a dumbass. Why is it with you leftists males are always insecure, whites are always racists and gays are forever oppressed? I understand that for you to make your leftist creds you gotta show how “smart” and glib you are but being an ignorant anti male sexist isn’t cool. Perhaps you are “endlessly insecure” in your manhood but we certainly are not. Please stop projecting like the dutiful leftist you are.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  228. 227.Maynard Keynes meets Buggsy Siegel is not good policies.
    nk (dbc370) — 6/11/2016 @ 8:54 am

    Neither is Karl Marx meets Benedict Arnold, Mr. #4Hillary!.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  229. Serious question, Hoagie: so you have an ex-wife that Hillary Clinton reminds you of?

    Leviticus channeling Trumpkins (1b20f0)

  230. *do you

    Serious question.

    Leviticus (1b20f0)

  231. If Trump is President, HUD will grow to ten times its present size and will be a cash cow for the Trump family and Trump cronies.
    nk (dbc370) — 6/11/2016 @ 8:44 am

    You state that as a fact when it has not occurred and no one other than you ever suggested it could. It’s a straw man argument. It’s BS. All the while your candidate has sold favors, state secrets and uranium which occurred in reality and are actually being investigated. Get a grip, Mr. #4Hillary!. You’re supporting a quisling.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  232. Wow that was a yuge squirrel, what great success did red queen occasion again, or any in fact,

    narciso (732bc0)

  233. [Cruz] talks the part of a maverick (sound like a previous failed Republican presidential hopeful?) by making statements and casting meaningless votes. But when the chips are down, he falls right in line and casts the votes he is told to.

    prowlerguy (fa36d8) — 6/11/2016 @ 6:03 am

    Let’s stipulate that, for the moment.

    How does that make him different from Trump?

    L.N. Smithee (e92da8)

  234. Serious answer Leviticus: my first wife of 16 years died next to me in 1992 of brain cancer. She was 40. That’s my only ex-wife. My current wife is a Korean immigrant who loathes Hillary, voted with me for Cruz and most likely will vote with me for Trump because, well, she loathes Hillary.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

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    Paired Off Pacemakers With Matchin’ Alarms
    Gives Us Jus’ One More Chance
    To Spin One More Yarn

    And You Know That You’re Over the Hill
    When Your Mind Makes a Promise That Your Body Can’t Fill
    Doin’ the Old Folks Boogie
    And Boogie We Will
    ’cause to Us the Thought’s As Good As a Thrill

    Back At the Home,
    No Time Is Your Own,
    Facillities There, They’re All Out On Loan
    The Bank Forclose, and Your Bankruptcy Shows
    And Your Credit Creeps to An All-time Low
    So You Know, That You’re Over the Hill
    When Your Mind Makes a Promise That Your Body Can’t Fill

    Try and Get a Rise From An Atrophied Muscle,
    And the Nerves in Your Thigh Just Quiver and Fizzle
    So You Know, That You’re Over the Hill
    When Your Mind Makes a Promise That Your Body Can’t Fill

    http://youtu.be/y0WeIOxZdnw

    Colonel Haiku (b16cf9)

  236. And somewhere in the desert sands of New Mexico, a coyote pup whines and licks its wounds…

    Colonel Haiku (b16cf9)

  237. Genuinely sorry to hear that about your first wife, Hoagie. And sorry to bring up the memory. Lesson learned.

    Leviticus (1b20f0)

  238. You state that as a fact when it has not occurred and no one other than you ever suggested it could. It’s a straw man argument. It’s BS. All the while your candidate has sold favors, state secrets and uranium which occurred in reality and are actually being investigated. Get a grip, Mr. #4Hillary!. You’re supporting a quisling.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/11/2016 @ 10:38 am

    nk’s not supporting Hillary. You’re aping Trump’s practice of name-calling in the hopes that it will work on feeble-minded people.

    Regarding Hillary’s record, like I wrote last month:

    [W]hile you can easily point to the bloody, incompetent track record HRC’s left behind, remember that she, like Trump, had NO track record when she first ran for elective office in New York. But, what did we know about Hillary when she first ran in New York? That she told lots of lies, large and small.

    Among the small: She was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, who hadn’t conquered Mt. Everest until she was six years old. She was a lifelong Cubs fan but suddenly, when running out of Chappaqua, NY, she was also a longtime Yankees fan. She wanted to join the Marines (at the age of 26!) but the sexist USMC recruiters laughed at her. Among the large: As First Lady of Arkansas, she claims she converted a $1,000 cattle future investment into nearly $100,000.00 in ten months — pay no attention to that Tyson Foods lawyer behind the curtain. She had no knowledge of and had nothing to do with the dismissal of the longtime employees in the White House Travel Office, cleared out to make room for a company owned by Hollywood producer (and Arkansas native) Harry Thomason (Designing Women, Hearts Afire). Despite an FBI memo saying otherwise, she had absolutely no clue how Craig Livingstone — a former bar bouncer who was the custodian of improperly-accessed FBI files — got a job in the White House. And of course, the non-existent “vast right-wing conspiracy” that was to blame for all the allegations that her husband had given a round-heeled intern the highest security clearance so he could splooge on her dress in the Oval Office. (Trump likes conspiracy theories too, in case you haven’t noticed.)

    If someone had recited all of those things to you back in 2000 and said they were reasons why you should never trust Hillary with any semblance of power over any of our lives, would you dismiss those concerns? I certainly didn’t. And I don’t dismiss Trump’s record of pervasive mendacity (not to mention litigiousness and childishness) over the decades either. If there was a reason to believe that Hillary the Pathological Liar circa 2000 would become Hillary the Blood-Stained Monster you see her as today, there’s reason to believe the Donald the Pathological Liar could become Donald the Clueless, Incurious Tyrant right now (difference being you wanna hand him the keys to the nuke codes next January; none of that waiting a decade-and-a-half stuff).

    The fact that Hillary Rodham Clinton is a contemptible human being herself doesn’t make Donald John Trump any less so because he has an “R” next to his name. But because he does, you’re ready and willing to swallow his constant stream of lies as quickly as they come out of both sides of his mouth.

    This is the advantage a rank amateur like Trump — who has not just only never held a similar position but never been in government at all — has over someone with a chequered record in government like Hillary; you can claim his blank slate will always remain clean.

    L.N. Smithee (e92da8)

  239. Wales just beat Slovakia 2 – 1 in Group ‘B’ UEFA European Championship match. Great day for the Red Dragons. Next up on TV England vs Russia 2:30 EST. Don’t miss it.

    ropelight (596f46)

  240. And those were policy decision, the selection of the task force, and the choices they made, the travel office were personnel decisions, etc,

    narciso (732bc0)

  241. 242.Genuinely sorry to hear that about your first wife, Hoagie. And sorry to bring up the memory. Lesson learned.

    Not a problem, Leviticus. You would have no way of knowing. The subject came up on other blogs but never here. That was a long time ago and loss softens with time. Besides, I am now with the lovely June.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  242. nk’s not supporting Hillary. You’re aping Trump’s practice of name-calling in the hopes that it will work on feeble-minded people.

    That is not so, Mr.Smithee. I called only Hillary a name, “quisling”. Calling nk Mr. #4Hillary! is snarky perhaps but not name calling, specially when he was supporting Hillary over Trump. In fact, you are the one who alluded to nk perhaps being “feeble-minded”, not I. I think nk is of very sound mind. It’s his judgment I question.

    I question anyone’s judgment who keeps comparing Hillary! with Trump in the hopes of placing one or the other in some nefarious superior position. It won’t happen so all your comparisons either historically or contemporary mean nothing. In the final analysis if they were both identical on character flaws, policy failures, moral depravity and just plain ugliness Hillary is still a communist so Trump still wins. Just sayin’.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  243. Correct the Record

    This is going to be a banner year for bloggers willing to take payola. Pretty sure that there will be systems set up to pay commenters, too.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  244. The truth is not in Trumpkins.

    The truth is nowhere near Trumpkins. It is to them as water is to the Wicked Witch of the West. Or’ to quote The Donald to his minions, “Fly, my pretties!”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  245. He’s like the Steven Seagal of politics.

    Seagal is the Donald Trump of acting.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  246. Yes that David brick’s contribution,

    narciso (732bc0)

  247. Trump is the Jett Rink of politics, but I’m watching Giant so that’s why it came to mind.

    DRJ (15874d)

  248. Hillary Clinton was the first First Lady in generations to take on a major policy responsibility at all. She probably didn’t realize how much that would bother America’s endlessly insecure male population

    No, Hillarycare went down in flames because it was a scheme that depended on a bloated bureaucracy and regulation to work. Even the 1990s Democrats could not stomach it.

    fifteen years later they had changed enough to push through Obama’s scheme which depended on a bloated bureaucracy and regulation to work.

    kishnevi (b58549)

  249. Good luck with your posturing and your choice, Clintonistas. Really… at this point, what does it matter.

    Colonel Haiku Channeling Leviticus (2601c0)

  250. Yes they bought off the insurance and pharmaceutical companies, is there was no ‘harry and Louise this time around,

    narciso (732bc0)

  251. Romney reserved particular scorn for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who Romney endorsed late in the primary process. The Texas senator, he pointed out, spent extensive time during the campaign praising Trump.

    happyfeet (831175)

  252. PEELING BACK THE ONION OF LIES: Breaking: Hillary Clinton Sent Information Marked Classified. “This revelation is another drip in the steady drip drip drip drip of revelations regarding Hillary Clinton’s criminal mishandling of classified national security information. It demonstrates why the FBI is conducting a criminal investigation.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236015/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  253. The Texas senator, he pointed out, spent extensive time during the campaign praising Trump.

    Yes, and at the same time attacking all the others. Cruz thought that when it came down to him or Trump the party would have no choice. He was right. Trump and Carson should have been strangled in the crib.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  254. I think Cruz praised Trump because he hoped to pick up his supporters but also because in the early months of the campaign, Trump was saying things that needed to be said about the border and the plight of the working men and women. These were things that Cruz agreed with Trump about and had been saying for years in Texas, but Cruz doesn’t say them with the bluster Trump does.

    I don’t fault Cruz for not criticizing Trump when they agreed. You don’t criticize someone who agrees with you unless you are Donald Trump, who eventually criticizes everyone.

    DRJ (15874d)

  255. interesting who was presiding over that meeting, where fernando was in attendance,

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/12/van_vann_diepen_nie_author_and.html

    narciso (732bc0)

  256. ‘ow do they say in your country? Read the whole thing. happyfeet quoted Romney about Cruz, because happyfeet is Boba Fett, but the meat is that Romney called Donnie a fraud and a con man.

    I have always liked Romney.

    nk (dbc370)

  257. Mr. Cruz’s biggest mistake was suspending his campaign to scurry over to tennessee for some self-indulgent kim davis butt snuffles

    this threw him way off message going forward

    then he did the bathroom tranny jihad thing in indiana while Mr. Trump was talking about jobs and Carrier

    him and his sacky, they were just flat out not ready for prime time

    it was like watching Jim Bakker and Tammy Fay run for president, just without the charisma

    happyfeet (831175)

  258. yes, obama was in over his head, but trump was vandal savage, or some other criminal overlord right.

    narciso (732bc0)

  259. oh please at *worst* Mr. Trump was a tad insouciant and bore a devil-may-care swagger

    happyfeet (831175)

  260. Trump’s “mistake” is not having a clue what he believes in, other than himself. He will say anything.

    DRJ (15874d)

  261. you just don’t like him

    but honestly the whole idea of liking or disliking some sleazy failmerican president is becoming just really weird

    after george w the butcher bush and obama – who raped jobs and the treasury (while promising food stamp multiplier effects)

    let’s not pretend the presidency has anything to do with moral chartacter

    the last one that was remotely moral was ronnie r and he was in the grip of dementia

    happyfeet (831175)

  262. moral *character* i mean

    happyfeet (831175)

  263. This

    I have always liked Romney.

    nk (dbc370) — 6/11/2016 @ 5:34 pm

    sounds like an exaggeration.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  264. lol pikachu calling anyone weird is profound let alone the saintly drj

    kneepad boichild should wash out his icky icky pie hole with blisterine

    pikachu is the apotheosis of weird like austin and portland what with their man bun wearing baristas expert in geopolitics and porny tattoos

    weird thy namu is happyfeet

    like a neon fish on a melting unicycle holding a wellness shot drawn by Renoir

    trumpyfeet (cebcc7)

  265. george w the butcher bush

    no no no happy the pseudo hip Violent Femmes referencing douche those butchered were just tatted up illiterates i think

    Jack Klompus (dc65ef)

  266. I do think it’s kinda funny that a good rationale for voting Hillary is “what difference does it make?”

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  267. like supporting chris coons, he didn’t do any harm right?

    narciso (732bc0)

  268. Ow that was just plain mean, narciso. Don’t dredge up the past, look forward with all of ’em.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  269. Or, more accurately, “At this point what difference does it make”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  270. actually it does make a difference, otherwise e pleb nista, will be our fate,

    narciso (732bc0)

  271. yes yes it probably makes a difference

    happyfeet (831175)

  272. And, again, we have no power over who the Democrats put up. They have put up their usual Horror show.

    But we DO have a choice on our side. If you want the votes you need to beat Hillary, PUT UP SOMEONE BETTER!!! Trump is toxic to many Republicans, many conservatives, all libertarians*, and nearly everyone in the middle.

    Or, go on and do this thing, but stop complaining about not getting support. WE EFFING TOLD YOU YOU WOULD NOT GET IT.

    —-
    ^except those rooting for GOP disaster

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  273. No, narciso, no!

    That needed a trigger warning.

    I googled e plebnista because I had not heard it, and found a bunch of SJW garbage tacked onto Wikipedia’s article on a Star Trek episode.

    kishnevi (a1b7cb)

  274. yes yes we did have a choice we chose Mr. Donald Trump

    he’s so good i love how he told mitt mitt not to worry about dragging his pervy butt to the convention

    stay in utah and enjoy your pee-wee herman videos mitt!

    we got this

    happyfeet (831175)

  275. sorry about that, the omega glory’s rather byzantine analogy to the cold war, where the yangs, would forget the words of our founding document, seems apt,

    narciso (732bc0)

  276. pikachu says “pervy” a lot and seems skeerd of plus huffy over lady parts

    pretty sure he lives in a small apartment what with tinfoil over the windows and lots and lots of magazines

    pretty sure what kind

    at least xhe can use whatever bathroom xhe wants

    mel gibson what with a blue face and scratchy skirt is yelly FREEDOM

    let freedom ring from every cake shop and two holer

    trumpyfeet (cebcc7)

  277. This was probably more a case of Hillary inserting a spy on that board, rather than rewarding a campaign contributor.

    Sammy Finkelman (be1e2f)

  278. 125. nk (dbc370) — 6/10/2016 @ 5:59 pm

    Why would a serious Presidential candidate call a U.S. Senator “Pocahontas”? Only a demented old closet tranny would do that.

    No, that’s a good sign. It shows he is aware of things being said. You wouldn’t want someone who didn’t know about this issue, would you?

    And you know the demented old buffoon meant to say Fauxahontas but that’s not one of the things that he can remember anymore.

    No, he didn’t. He’s not that sophisticated and up to date on things.

    I think it is also true, though, that he couldn’t remember it. He probably ran across the term Fauxahontas, or somebody tried to tell it to him, but it was probably too hard for him to remember or maybe even to understand.

    I think some other people have used “Pocahontas.” So he would have encountered both. We could check using Google.

    Right now Elizabeth Warren” Pocahontas – this is after Donald Trump started popularizing that version though has 481,000 results (Google seems to think people are looking for images)

    “elizabeth warren” Fauxahontas has only about 16,400 results and “elizabeth warren” Fauxcahontas 14,700.

    Sammy Finkelman (be1e2f)

  279. Wikileaks will publish some e-mails related to hillary says Julian Assange.

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/12/wikileaks-to-publish-more-hillary-clinton-emails-julian-assange?CMP=share_btn_tw

    But I wonder if they are Russian forgeries. I don’t know if Putin can play it straight, even a little bit. The e-mails will show somebody or other giving advice to Hillary predicted ISIS would take over Libya if Qaddafi was overthrown. Assange claims that’s actually happening now, which it isn’t quite. Sounds like Russian propaganda.

    Maybe they could be genuine if Putin arranged for those e-mails to be sent in the first place.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)


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