BREAKING: Two Reported Dead in UCLA Shooting [Updated]
[guest post by JVW]
Developing story: two people are reported dead in a shooting that took place earlier this morning in the Engineering IV building at UCLA. The building is on lockdown and police are said to be looking for two suspects, a male and a female. Here is a campus map with the location of the shootings:
More on this story as further details emerge. Here’s hoping that initial reports of the deaths is mistaken.
UPDATE: The Dog Trainer reports it was a murder-suicide and the campus is now safe. The two dead are reported as both being male.
UPDATE II: A commenter on the Daily Bruin article claims the victim is a professor. Take that with the proverbial grain of salt, but there you have it. [Further update: Dog Trainer reports a law enforcement officer said the bodies look like those of a student and professor.]
UPDATE III: The Dog Trainer already has a shrill editorial up calling for more gun control (no link will be provided to those whiny dipsticks). What’s the old saying about the bodies still being warm? Their editorial board has to be the most prissy and useless people in all of journalism.
UPDATE IV: The victim has been identified in the Daily Bruin and by CBS News Los Angeles as Professor of Mechanical Engineering William Klug, He was a young guy who appears to have joined the UCLA Faculty in the last six to eight years.
– JVW
UPDATE: The Dog Trainer reports it was a murder-suicide and the campus is now safe.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:29 pmThe Houston Chronicle reports the LA Police Chief says it was a murder-suicide and the campus is secure.
DRJ (76a58a) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:30 pmHas anyone done a study to see if workplace violence is more prevalent on college campuses than it is in other working environments? I’ll have to poke around on Google.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:32 pmIt was not the Religion of Peace thankfully but rumor has it that it was just some LGBT crazy like the AA VA shooter.
Gun free zones! They work only for the law abiding!
Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:35 pmThere’s some interesting stuff in a report on a Stanford website here. Almost 50% of campus murders involve romantic entanglements and only about 30% of them are related to issues with academics or work. Almost 3/4 of the time the victims are intended targets, and only in about 1 out of 5 are victims random bystanders. The average general profile of the killer is a white male between 25 and 35, so it’s not undergraduates who are the primary villains here.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:39 pm#5 BAN GRADUATE STUDENTS FROM GUN FREE ZONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:40 pmare we sure it wasn’t a rape-murder-suicide?
i mean statistically speaking it would be way more likely
happyfeet (a037ad) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:46 pmThis is Los Angeles County. “MAY-issue” for niggardly values of MAY. The only way to get a carry permit here is be a movie star, give a 6 figure campaign donation to someone the sheriff likes, or be a peace officer. For the rest of us, it’s ALL a gun-free zone.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:48 pmConsidering the time of year, someone was unhappy with not getting a degree.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:51 pmare we sure it wasn’t a rape-murder-suicide?
It could have been murder-rape-suicide. This is California, don’t be so closed-minded.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:52 pmUPDATE II: A commenter on the Daily Bruin article claims the victim is a professor. Take that with the proverbial grain of salt, but there you have it.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 12:59 pmThe Dog Trainer now reports that police who have viewed the dead bodies believe this was a student shooting a professor.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 1:12 pm2nd amendment in action
gunssy (8c649f) — 6/1/2016 @ 1:17 pmThis would never make the news in Chicago.
mg (31009b) — 6/1/2016 @ 1:18 pmwhich governor signed the first major gun control bill in california? hint 666!
gunssy (8c649f) — 6/1/2016 @ 1:21 pmBernie Sanders just lost three votes. Pity. He was so close too.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/1/2016 @ 1:25 pm#14 mg,
That might be the comment of the week. Well played. How many people got shot in Chicago over the holiday weekend — like 60?!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 6/1/2016 @ 1:28 pmI don’t know if this is an older erroneous version or a later, corrected version (it could also be a later erroneous version or an earlier correct version or an earlier or later half truth) but the Daily Beast says two men.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/01/two-shot-to-death-at-ucla.html
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/1/2016 @ 1:48 pm318 shootings, 397 shooting victims, 66 murders just in May including 6 dead, 63 wounded on Memorial Day weekend in Chicago. So why all the publicity about UCLA? Who cares?
Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/1/2016 @ 1:54 pmWhy are our trolls so precious?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/1/2016 @ 1:56 pmReally, gunssy? Does the 2nd Amendment state the right of the people to keep and bear arms to use in the commission of crime and murder shall not be infringed? You stupid as$.
Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/1/2016 @ 2:00 pmUnless they were shooting at Napolitano, it’s a terrible waste of ammo.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/1/2016 @ 2:04 pmMeanwhile, a Milo speech was blocked then heckled by students until someone finally called in a bomb threat ending the event. They were protesting Free Speech. Guess where? Why UCLA of course. I frankly don’t care if they all shoot each other.
Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/1/2016 @ 2:08 pmGuess where? Why UCLA of course.
Part of the reason I blogged on this is because I was wondering if there might be any linkage between the two. But it looks like these were nonrelated events. I still can’t decide what I think of Yiannopoulos. He’s a damn sharp guy, but I think he might be wasting his talent with all the campy theatrics.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 2:39 pmpapertiger, please tone down the bloodlust.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 2:39 pmUPDATE III: The Dog Trainer already has a shrill editorial up calling for more gun control (no link will be provided to those whiny dipsticks). What’s the old saying about the bodies still being warm? Their editorial board has to be the most prissy and useless people in all of journalism.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 2:45 pmSee, that’s the problem , JVW. That’s the problem with conservatives and non-leftists in general. We’re willing to believe all these incidents are unrelated and they are not. They are related because they are happening because of a pervasive leftist dogma preached and practiced by the education, entertainment and media establishments. Is it non-related that yet another school in yet another gun-free zone has a shooting? Of course not. It moves the narrative one more notch toward the inevitable conclusion: since people aren’t even safe in gun-free zones the only answer is a ban and confiscation.
The fact that the idiot students at UCLA also chose to protest the 1st amendment was simply more disassembling of the Constitution. The timing may be coincidence but the location is straight out of the playbook. It really is the time for The Constitutional Vanguard, while we still have a Constitution at all.
Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/1/2016 @ 3:18 pmIs it non-related that yet another school in yet another gun-free zone has a shooting? Of course not.
Though I understand your larger point, that seems to be stretching it mighty thin, Hoagie. I think the correlation is more like this: Today’s students more than ever are indoctrinated into this dogma in which they are convinced that they are at once being oppressed, ignored, marginalized, and exploited. So they go around always on edge looking for situations where they can give in to their highly-developed sense of self-aggrandizement and act out in a way to draw attention to themselves.
We just don’t know what went on between the professor and the student. It could be that the student had been brought up in that victim mentality, and so when he ended up having a disagreement on some matter with this professor he flipped out and killed him. No, I don’t think “gun free zones” had anything to do with it whatsoever. Had he gone around shooting a dozen people all over campus, then sure, you would have a point, but right now this looks just to be a murder-suicide based on some personal matter between the two.
The one area in which you have a strong point is that in this day and age there are so many young people wandering around on campus who are in need of, if not full psychiatric care, then at least some counseling to rid them of their awful martyr complexes and self-defeating attitudes. But bluntly, campuses are a haven for modern nutjobs, and there are so many of them and they are so highly coddled that we lack the ability to see when one of them has a psychosis that might be dangerous to the entire university community. This guy who harbors a deep and nasty grudge against his professor is indistinguishable in his demeanor and daily actions from a radical feminist who harbors hatred towards Milo Yiannopolous, so we’ll never get to where we understand in which case to intervene until it is far too late.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 3:42 pmI have the perfect 2-step solution for those who wish to ban guns.
1) Don’t possess guns.
John Hitchcock (dbb0d8) — 6/1/2016 @ 3:53 pm2) Put a sign in your yard that says your house is gun-free.
this went down the memory hole, after the squirrel with the cell phone,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/06/01/prosecutors-say-san-bernardino-attackers-friend-had-ties-to-group-arrested-for-2012-terror-plot/?postshare=5741464794463997&tid=ss_tw
narciso (732bc0) — 6/1/2016 @ 4:36 pmCall me crazy, but it doesn’t seem like people inclined to shoot other people in the face give a rip about gun free zones–except for the extra reassurance they provide that their potential victim(s) will be unarmed.
M. Scott Eiland (59e34f) — 6/1/2016 @ 4:51 pm318 shootings, 397 shooting victims, 66 murders just in May including 6 dead, 63 wounded on Memorial Day weekend in Chicago.
We have Scalia, Alito, Roberts, Kennedy and Thomas, the bought-and-paid-for shills of the gun lobby to thank for that. They brought the scourge of gun violence to Chicago with their insane decision in MacDonald vs. City of Chicago, which held that every loser had the Fourteenth Amendment right to compensate for the size of his penis by going around with a gun, and the merchants of death making their blood money from the sale of cheap plastic Saturday Night Specials and killer ammunition took full advantage of it. Chicago’s innocent youths are being murdered for no other reason than to increase the profit margin of the gun store owners.
It’s all right here.
nk (dbc370) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:19 pmUPDATE IV: The victim has been identified in the Daily Bruin and by CBS News Los Angeles as Professor of Mechanical Engineering William Klug, He was a young guy who appears to have joined the UCLA Faculty in the last six to eight years.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:21 pm318 shootings, 397 shooting victims, 66 murders just in May including 6 dead, 63 wounded on Memorial Day weekend in Chicago.
We have Scalia, Alito, Roberts, Kennedy and Thomas, the bought-and-paid-for shills of the gun lobby to thank for that. They brought the scourge of gun violence to Chicago with their absurd decision in MacDonald vs. City of Chicago, which held that every loser had the Fourteenth Amendment right to compensate for his lack of manhood by going around with a gun, and the merchants of death making their blood money from the sale of cheap plastic Saturday Night Specials and killer ammunition took full advantage of it. Chicago’s innocent youths are being murdered for no other reason than to increase the profit margin of the gun store owners.
It’s all right here.
nk (dbc370) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:22 pmCalifornia has ALL the gun control that’s supposed to “solve” these problems.
SPQR (a3a747) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:25 pm318 shootings, 397 shooting victims, 66 murders just in May including 6 dead, 63 wounded on Memorial Day weekend in Chicago.
We have Scalia, Alito, Roberts, Kennedy and Thomas, the bought-and-paid-for shills of the gun lobby to thank for that. They brought the scourge of gun violence to Chicago with their insane decision in MacDonald vs. City of Chicago, which held that every loser had the Fourteenth Amendment right to compensate for the size of his penis by going around with a gun, and the merchants of death making their blood money from the sale of cheap plastic Saturday Night Specials and killer ammunition took full advantage of it. Chicago’s innocent youths are being murdered for no other reason than to increase the profit margin of the gun store owners.
It’s all right here.
nk (dbc370) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:26 pmGun free zones demonstrate their effectiveness yet again.
I just never go to places where I can’t carry. Getting killed will just ruin your day.
WarEagle82 (5bf75f) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:27 pmactually it was judge mukasey, yes it’s thin gruel, one america news is a little more on point, policy wise,
narciso (732bc0) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:28 pmOh, sorry for the duplicate. I didn’t see that my comment had been rescued. Thanks, JVW. The last one has a better link.
nk (dbc370) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:29 pmA 15 yr old and a 16 yr old were gunned down just in the last 24 hours in Chicago. Many black community leaders say the violence is linked to decades of racism there, but also say that parents have to police their own households and citizens must police their own neighborhoods, that blaming others for the violence is misguided and only exacerbates the problem.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:33 pmYeah, it’s the guns that kill people in Chicago, not the roving criminals. And all those shootings were done with guns legally purchased after the Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment was a real thing.
John Hitchcock (dbb0d8) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:35 pmOh no! Martha come quick. It’s one of our boys…
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:36 pmPerhaps Chicago can also learn from other metro areas that don’t have the problem on this scale.
This reminds me of what I’ve liked about the Obama years and his sh*theel governance and attitude: all the racial healing.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:37 pmNobody clicks links around here.
nk (dbc370) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:40 pmIn my defense, my Shockwave Flash crashes about 5 times per hour. I saw marked improvement when I installed AdBlocker, but that improvement only lasted a few months. Now, it’s as bad as it’s ever been.
John Hitchcock (dbb0d8) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:44 pmBut nk, there’s no such thing as a plastic 38 special. So I don’t feel the need to click your link promising a lot more carp.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:45 pmI bet nk thinks I’m criticizing his salesmanship.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:47 pmhttp://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/taurus-model-85-38-special-polymer-revolver/0000000083796
John Hitchcock (dbb0d8) — 6/1/2016 @ 5:50 pmyou should just uninstall flash and then just enable it on sites where it’s absolutely necessary like your fave porn sites and where you pay your credit card
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:02 pmsorry uninstall then reinstall…
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:03 pmA long time ago, like maybe three years, I’m at an AA meeting and a confessed alcoholic made the statement that Prohibition would have worked if not for the influx of immigrants from drinking cultures. He could have meant the Irish, the Germans, or the Italians, but who knows, and I doubt if it mattered to him. As long as it was the fault of somebody else or something else.
nk (dbc370) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:11 pmfill my cup
with templeton rye
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:12 pm“Oh no! Martha come quick. It’s one of our boys”
paper tiger wins the internet June 1
f1guyus (5a4596) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:14 pmperhaps the french tried to regulate the heroin crop, using it to finance the bank of indochina, where future vichy collaborator rene bousqet, ended up on the board, it didn’t take.
narciso (732bc0) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:15 pmOr: “What do you mean I flunked? In my culture 2+2=5. You racist.
f1guyus (5a4596) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:17 pmborsalino, mentioned earlier, was about another conveyor of said product, franco espirito, who worked for the vichy, then ratlined to south america, where he helped form the french connection,
narciso (732bc0) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:20 pmTaurus 85 Protector Review @ Trigger Happy Review (YouTube)
“This is a polymer framed handgun. Nice grip. You can get your hand on it pretty good. The meat of this gun, the money of this gun is all steel. It’s got a real cylinder. Real hammer. Real trigger and all that stuff.”
Hillary Clinton Supports Australia-style Gun Confiscation
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:22 pmI know I’ve handled a plastic, hammerless 38 special before. Didn’t like the fact it didn’t have a hammer. Also didn’t like the plastic. Or polymer. Same diff to me, but prolly not same diff in reality. I confess, I don’t know.
John Hitchcock (dbb0d8) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:25 pmJohn did you shoot it very much? I’m wondering if the barrel will melt loose of the housing.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/1/2016 @ 6:35 pmnothing to see here,
narciso (732bc0) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:02 pmA lot of guns have lined barrels and the liner is held in place with epoxy. How many rounds do you think you can shoot how fast to heat up the barrel that much to melt the polymer? Maybe the frame will loosen up so the cylinder does not index as precisely or at all if you feed it a lot of hot loads, but the most likely way you’ll damage a polymer or aluminum frame is by dropping it on concrete.
I had a Taurus 85 2″, but it was the steel frame with wood grips. I’m old-fashioned. They’re nice little guns and good bargains for the price compared to the S&Ws they’re copied from.
nk (dbc370) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:05 pmI bet if there had been a state law in CA forbidding shooting people, then the perpetrator at UCLA never would have shot someone!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:13 pmhillary will help everybody be more self-defense minded
we should make her president – let’s all be butt-hurt on trump cause he kicked nasty pasty harvardtrash constitution-poseur ted cruz and his chubby goldy sacky in the teef to where they had to drop out of the campaign
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:18 pmdid you know moose tracks is a nationally-licensed trademark
i bet chubby chub-chub the goldy sacky chile-o-missionaries knows all about it
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:20 pmI handled the pistol at a gun store. I didn’t shoot it. But I didn’t like the feel of it or the lack of a hammer. I couldn’t have bought it anyway. I was in a Texas gun store with an Ohio Driver’s License. And they weren’t big enough to have their own pistol range.
My daughter’s .40 is nice, though. Lightweight, no kick.
John Hitchcock (dbb0d8) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:23 pmlet’s all be butt-hurt on trump cause he kicked nasty pasty harvardtrash constitution-poseur ted cruz and his chubby goldy sacky in the teef to where they had to drop out of the campaign
It’s as good a reason as any. And it’s a kindness to him and his arm candy not to tell them all the other reasons why they’re unfit to be on the same continent as the White House.
nk (dbc370) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:24 pmshe photographs well
no ann romney, she
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:26 pmJust checked the rule book. He’s right. It’s against the law to shoot someone in California.
So not only did these people shoot someone, they also broke the law.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:28 pmCan’t even have foolish gun play. Real party poopers in California.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:30 pmthey’re entitled to ZERO trumptinis
cause of how shooty they are
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:31 pmActually, she does not photograph well. Her poses are stilted and unnatural, even in family photos. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/31/22/2DE55F4300000578-3298508-Melania_made_a_rare_appearance_at_the_Republican_debate_on_Wedne-m-8_1446330542534.jpg I question her modeling credentials.
nk (dbc370) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:34 pmRev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/1/2016 @ 1:54 pm
because they locked down the college, which affected very many people, because of concerns about a killer on the loose. And there are a lot of people on college campuses. Except that there are also a lot of people around many other places.
So now the question is why were they worried about a killer being on the loose, especially when there was no evidence of that at all, because it should have been obvious right away from the start that the killer did not get away, but committed suicide.
But I guess the idea is that colleges, like airports, are where people go to kill people, ever since August 1, 1966 at the University of Texas. Now colleges being (sometimes) gun free zones can’t be the reason. Maybe it’s that all the people are unrelated, so more families can be affected. Except that in this case, this didn’t happen – the authorities were fearing ghosts. If someone shoots somebody else in a liquor store, they don’t go looking around for a mass killer or an assistant killer.
Sammy Finkelman (eb1481) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:36 pmshe looks so vulnerable
yet so fiercely determined
a rare candid shot of bambi’s mother is what that is
i am humbled
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:36 pmthe earlier link, is about a similar incident across the pond, which shockingly is getting not as much coverage, wonder why,
narciso (732bc0) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:39 pm61. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:13 pm
The killer knew that, but thought he had found a loophole in the law.
You can’t be prosecuted for murder, or even put in jail, if you kill yourself first.
Not in a human court anyway.
Sammy Finkelman (eb1481) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:40 pmI blame Barack for this senseless violence at UCLA. After all, if he had made an executive order about shooting college professors, this never would have happened.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:45 pmOf course, he’ll probably give a lecture about how society failed — but we all know it was the fault of the Executive Orderer In Chief who failed to act in time.
the one thing we know for sure is that the victim was paying a very high tax rate
because he had a job
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:53 pmI’ll point out I called it in #9
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/1/2016 @ 7:59 pmA boy destroyed a $15,000 Lego sculpture at the LEGO Expo in Ningbo, China. A sculpture that took the artist, Zhao, three days and nights to piece together.
http://jackontheweb.cbslocal.com/2016/06/01/kid-destroys-15000-lego-sculpture/
The Lego Expo was only open for about an hour when all of Zhao’s hard work literally came….
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:00 pmFor those that don’t know the area, there are several reasons they freaked:
1. The shooting venue was about 300 feet north of the the UCLA-Ronald Reagan regional hospital, which is probably the best hospital west of the Mississippi. If there was an active shooter, it would have been a target rich environment with little real security. UCLA proper is pretty spread out, but this is concentrated civilian.
2. The school, and Westwood, is smack dab in the center of the richest area in Los Angeles. There are no single-family houses within 5 miles that sell for less than $2 million. Many for quite a bit more. It’s where Obamajams occur.
3. Gun violence isn’t supposed to happen to these people. It makes them think they need a new police chief or something.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:05 pmthere’s no such thing as $15,000 lego sculpture
not in hillary clinton’s america
we just sniff stank of pee
legos too bourgeois
pls to get with program
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:11 pmRIP, young professor. He seemed like a very nice man, devout, and an active father.
Based on my experience in higher ed, I would not be surprised to hear that the shooter was known to be unbalanced.
I had a couple of students like that, and if I had had the authority, I would have said “pass him” to the grad committee of one of them, so I just gently suggested. No dice. The campus health psychologist and campus police believed he was dangerous. No one did anything. Then I left. At least that time they were right to let it go. This time…
Patricia (5fc097) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:11 pmprobably this is sadly the case, consider the aurora shooter,
narciso (732bc0) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:13 pmGun control?
I’d rather be shot than beat to death with a bowling trophy (or whatever else was handy)
steveg (fed1c9) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:13 pmI had a couple of students like that, and if I had had the authority, I would have said “pass him” to the grad committee of one of them, so I just gently suggested. No dice. The campus health psychologist and campus police believed he was dangerous. No one did anything.
Pima Community College in Tucson thought Jared Loughner was such a nutcase that they suspended him from campus, but naturally they didn’t bother to notify the county sheriff about their concerns. Privacy issues and all that. Three months later he shot up the gathering with Congresswoman Giffords and killed six people.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:18 pmnot melena mercuri, but then who is nowadays.
narciso (732bc0) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:18 pmomg i was beat to death with a bowling trophy my freshman year at harvard
never went back
they’re not like how you think they are there
happyfeet (831175) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:19 pmNew York State man hacks his grandmother to death with an axe.
Man gets sent to prison.
Man gets released early from prison.
Man burns down house and murders firefighters with gun.
Gun-grabbers blame gun.
True story.
John Hitchcock (dbb0d8) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:20 pm84. And in Colorado, another person, cut off from campus, went to a movie theater instead.
Sammy Finkelman (eb1481) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:33 pmWent to the one that was gun-free, and not the one that allowed guns.
John Hitchcock (dbb0d8) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:41 pmactually robin, the educational theorist, will tell you a whole host, not all, of these incidents involved students who were in antibullying ‘behavioral’ research, but that does no good to point that out,
narciso (732bc0) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:43 pmIn South Carolina, Dylan Roof, considered, but avoided a college campus, because they might have guns there (which would at least inerrupt his killing) and went to Bible study in a church instead, figuring, I guess, that even if it was legal for someone there to possess a gun, they wouldn’t actually have one there.
Sammy Finkelman (eb1481) — 6/1/2016 @ 8:47 pmhow about that,
http://www.weaselzippers.us/274755-nets-cover-gorilla-death-54x-more-than-chicago-shootings/
narciso (732bc0) — 6/1/2016 @ 9:22 pm3…2…1…until some UCLA students stage an anti-gun protest or march. And then afterwards, they’ll go to the movie theatre in Westwood this weekend and watch some movie where a bunch of people get shot up by people with guns.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 6/1/2016 @ 9:53 pm“But that’s just entertainment! Anyhow, that’s the filmmaker’s freedom of expression!!!11!!!1 You can’t take that away from him because it’s his Constitutional right!”(LOL)
I guess people like to use whatever tragedies they can to promote politics. But when it comes to deaths on campus, I am reminded of this:
http://murderpedia.org/male.S/s/streleski-theodore.htm
The problem is in the heart of the killer, in my opinion.
Simon Jester (bb7e0e) — 6/1/2016 @ 10:28 pmSorry I wasn’t more clear. I don’t believe gun free zones are the reason, I believe they are put there to move the narrative forward as inevitably shootings will occur there. To the leftist mind if people aren’t safe in gun free zones the only truly compassionate answer becomes gun bans and confiscation. Gun fee zones aren’t the “reason” for this shooting. Gun free zones are never the “reason” for a shooting however, they frequently are the location of shootings for obvious reasons.
Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/2/2016 @ 5:19 amIt should be easy to identify the shooter.
Since California law bans open carry,. the shooter must hazve carried concealed.
And if the shooter carried concealed, he must have had a permit, which is granted at the discretion of the Los Angeles County Sheriff.
So just look at the list of people with permits and find out who died yesterday.
Michael Ejercito (01f3f1) — 6/2/2016 @ 7:19 amThis seems to have taken a turn toward the curious. Just saw a news conference from MN regarding the finding of a woman there who was dead of gunshot wound in her home, and also on a “hit list” (the reporter’s term) found with the shooter. All the spokesman would say about timing was that the female in MN was apparently dead prior to the shooting episode at UCLA. The investigation continues, yada, yada…
Gramps (39f97a) — 6/2/2016 @ 10:29 amThis turns out to be anotehr case of someone who had murdered somebody else before, so any new murders weer a freebie and didn’t need too strong a motive. The murderer has killed his estranged wife in Minnesota several days before and drove west to kill two professors whom he believed had not treated him fairly. (he accused one of them of stealing code he had wriotten and giving it to anotehr student, something almost certainly unfounded)
One of the professors he wanted to kill was not on campus.
He killed himself, and left a note asking police to take care of his cat – when they went to his home in Minnesota they discovered a kill list, when LA police (in Minn or contacted by Minn police?) contacted the hometown of his estranged wife they went to where she lived and discovered her dead.
Sammy Finkelman (eb1481) — 6/3/2016 @ 4:31 pmWhile not everybody knew they were married, they did get married in 2011 close to the start of their relationship. But she moved out maybe ayear ago and went to live with her father. So where was her father when she was killed?
Sammy Finkelman (eb1481) — 6/3/2016 @ 4:32 pm