Patterico's Pontifications

5/30/2016

Libertarian Candidate Gary Johnson

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:49 pm



Well, there goes that opportunity for a protest vote.

48 Responses to “Libertarian Candidate Gary Johnson”

  1. I’m not in the mood to choose the least of three evils. If that’s what Johnson is.

    Patterico (86c8ed) — 5/30/2016 @ 7:50 pm

  2. Please note the proper grammar. I saw someone refer to the “lesser of three evils” today and wept for the state of our educational system.

    Patterico (86c8ed) — 5/30/2016 @ 7:51 pm

  3. what exactly was he drinking?

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 7:54 pm

  4. Well, you understand he wasn’t the guy in the thong. It’s still a valid question though.

    Patterico (86c8ed) — 5/30/2016 @ 7:55 pm

  5. hayek does a mcluhan,* ‘you know nothing of my work’

    *his cameo in annie hall,

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 7:57 pm

  6. I don’t understand, libertarians know that there is such a thing as borders, that the govt’s business cannot be conducted solely by condottieri or privateers right?

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:03 pm

  7. Johnson’s not a neophyte. He knows what he has to do: pivot to the middle. So does Weld. And they will.

    ThOR (c9324e) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:03 pm

  8. The anti-Trump/pro-Hillary media will do what they can to support him. They can do a lot.

    ThOR (c9324e) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:05 pm

  9. You would have preferred as the nominee the guy who did the striptease?

    As it is, ideologues like Knapp are apparently throwing a tantrum because he does not meet their tests of purity.

    If I remember right you think he’s wrong about wedding cakes and the War on Drugs. Are those reasons to put him in the same category as El Tupe and Hillary?

    kishnevi (31ec7b) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:05 pm

  10. Patterico, you need to re-read Niven and Pournelle’s “The Mote in God’s Eye.” The aliens have three arms, and in discussion with humans, often refer to “the gripping hand” as a third option.

    Me, I will take any option I can get other than these two frightening clowns.

    Your mileage may differ.

    Simon Jester (b57e2d) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:06 pm

  11. #2 Patterico,

    It’s just like when someone says they’re going to choose “between” several items on the menu.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:07 pm

  12. Thor: They might but the party? Nope. R’s & D’s will bring up every bit of this and more. That’s the Libertarians, and I was one in the 90’s, problem: for every good idea you have two that are bat guano crazy.

    brightdarkness (0c5f1f) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:09 pm

  13. #6 narciso,

    Sometimes I think there’s an anarchist impulse among a percentage of Libertarians. Of course, when their house is on fire, they don’t think twice about calling the government fire department to come put it out.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:10 pm

  14. 13
    More than an impulse. There is enough to have an Anarchy Caucus at the LP convention.

    kishnevi (31ec7b) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:15 pm

  15. I suppose, this is why classical liberalism ultimately failed in latin america, in mexico,
    it led to porfirio diaz, and after a turn, the pri, in argentina rosas, and the colonels,
    vargas llosa ran a quixotic effort, that fujimori the pragmatist ultimately harvested,

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:16 pm

  16. Talk about yer pissin’ in the wind…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:19 pm

  17. seriously they should have checked the auditorium for ergot, that wasn’t alex knapp was it?

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:21 pm

  18. If you’re going to cast a protest vote, I still maintain that writing in Rafael Edward Cruz will be the most effective way to tell the GOP, “You screwed up big-time.”

    Robin Munn (b1072d) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:23 pm

  19. After witnessing what 9 months of free publicity has done for Shorty, how can you be so sure?

    Sanity is hardly the defining characteristic of this particular election cycle. I’m not disagreeing about the bat guano crazy part, but it seems the whole world has moved in their direction. You really think Johnson is more delusional than Trump? Ask happy and you will learn that ‘bat guano crazy’ is a big part of the little man’s appeal.

    Finally, early on in this cycle, everyone on the right was telling the world the Rs needed to nominate a governor because of the importance of executive experience. That seems like a very long time ago.

    ThOR (c9324e) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:26 pm

  20. He is running a Libertarian-Lite campaign. the Real Libertarians™ hate him because he says things like he would have signed the 1965 Civil Rights Act. Hint: No one who says otherwise sill ever get more than 2% of the vote.

    Gone is Pat’s chance of a protest vote. GOOD. It is decades past time they were in the business of providing people opportunities for a protest vote.

    As for not choosing the least evil — you will never ever get any choice in your life in a general presidential election that is not the least of evils. Even Ronald Reagan wasn’t perfect. For one thing, if asked in 1980, he would have said that he would have signed the 1965 Civil Rights Act.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:29 pm

  21. that turns the horse into tasajo, before it’s time, what are trump’s two signature issues,
    bueller, bueller, and when did they manifest themselves,

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:30 pm

  22. I don’t understand, libertarians know that there is such a thing as borders, that the govt’s business cannot be conducted solely by condottieri or privateers right?

    Some do, some don’t.

    There is a least-government wing and then there is the anarcho-capitalist wing. Those guys are REALLY crazy. Try L Neil Smith’s “The Probability Broach” for a SF excursion through their mindset.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:34 pm

  23. Gary Johnson threw Austin Petersen’s gun in the trash.

    As for not choosing the least evil — you will never ever get any choice in your life in a general presidential election that is not the least of evils.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. How many times do I have to remind you that I voted for McCain and Romney?

    This time is different. Quite obviously.

    Patterico (86c8ed) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:49 pm

  24. There is a least-government wing and then there is the anarcho-capitalist wing. Those guys are REALLY crazy.

    I disagree with them, but we agree on a lot, and the stuff we disagree on is mostly fanciful (other than foreign policy, which is a biggie).

    Patterico (86c8ed) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:49 pm

  25. clearly the ergot speaking,

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:50 pm

  26. 25. clearly the ergot speaking,

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 8:50 pm 25

    I hate it when it does that. On the bright side it could be the raw eggs. Or the Zabaglione.

    Steve57 (e33d44) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:08 pm

  27. Sigh. Still not sure what I’ll do. In the 2008 and 2012 elections I voted for nobody for President. But this year I feel like I need a protest vote. So maybe I’ll do a write in, though the Constitution candidate looks decent.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:13 pm

  28. Willing seller, willing buyer.
    ee
    That’s about as anarcho crazy this free marketeer is getting.

    Steve57 (e33d44) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:15 pm

  29. My ‘puter is leaving artifacts all over h3lls creation.

    Steve57 (e33d44) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:16 pm

  30. Johnson … just fraking brilliant Libertarians just brilliant.

    SPQR (a3a747) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:22 pm

  31. well it’s a performance piece, that seems to be the only way people get interested now, so he does have that going for him, the telltale pics are kind of hard to find, thank the maker, I mean neuralizer,

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:27 pm

  32. so the three scoops of crazy strategy might work, if people knew about it,

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:32 pm

  33. I saw someone refer to the “lesser of three evils” today and wept for the state of our educational system.

    Patterico (86c8ed) — 5/30/2016 @ 7:51 pm

    The same system that brought you such bon-mots such as ‘pleaded’ rather than ‘plead’ and ‘irregardless’ instead of ‘regardless’.

    Bill H (971e5f) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:35 pm

  34. But why? Why is this time different?

    Because this guy could win?

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:44 pm

  35. the independent piece by the scot mcleod, reminded me of highlander,

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:51 pm

  36. Yeah, such bad grammar. I wonder how it’s translated in AUSTRIAN??

    GUS (30b6bd) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:52 pm

  37. Yes and CORPSE MAN. There is a distinct difference between being unaware of English and context, and being an ASS who got into College via Affirmative Action.

    GUS (30b6bd) — 5/30/2016 @ 9:57 pm

  38. William Weld makes the libertarian ticket unpalatable to me. In 1993 he appointed the Cosmic Muffin as the first ever official State Astrologer in the United States. That was astrologer, not astronomer. No, thanks. Trump exhibits more rationality then that.

    Gospace (f38eb5) — 5/30/2016 @ 10:24 pm

  39. ah yes, the cosmic muffin, in other vizzini news,

    http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/27646/

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 10:26 pm

  40. and across the pond,
    http://heatst.com/uk/nus-at-war-over-politically-black-antisemitic-president-a-rachel-dolezal/

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 10:31 pm

  41. This time is different. Quite obviously.

    Yes. This time it’s like that rock at the end of Time Bandits.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/30/2016 @ 11:07 pm

  42. So the so-called Libertarian Party nominates TWO liberal, establishment, washed-up Republicans?

    Is every party intent on self-destruction this cycle?

    WarEagle82 (5bf75f) — 5/31/2016 @ 3:58 am

  43. I call him Douchebag Johnson. The kind of “Libertarian” who says we can’t force Jewish bakers to make a custom Nazi wedding cake (… this is what he actually said), but we CAN force any baker, Christian, Jew, Muslim, whatever, to make a custom gay wedding cake. Huh? I might settle for “consistent,” but that’s neither consistent nor libertarian.

    He’s a douche.

    Mitch (bfd5cd) — 5/31/2016 @ 6:16 am

  44. I have you the constitution party candidate on the other thread.

    narciso (b19692) — 5/31/2016 @ 7:02 am

  45. Kevin M:

    the 1965 Civil Rights Act

    It’s the 1964 Civil Rights Act that Barry Goldwater voted against (he gave anti-federal-government type reasons)

    After the 1964 Lyndon Johnson landslide, there was passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which, after a while, was interpreted to mandate gerrymandering. It became the Black and Minority Political Candidates Rights Act.

    Sammy Finkelman (febafc) — 5/31/2016 @ 7:08 am

  46. “…pistol in the trash”

    So. It is now mandatory that only putzes can run for President? Is Miss Manners dead or something?

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/31/2016 @ 8:25 am

  47. Thanks, Sammy. Of course. I refer you to Churchill’s comments on pedantry.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/31/2016 @ 8:27 am

  48. Sammy, the 1964 law was mainly about public accommodations, and the libertarian position (which Goldwater took) was that people should have the right to choose who their businesses served. The problem with this, which anyone who looks at the history without ideological blinders can see, is that Jim Crow offered no “right to choose.” A business either served whites, or it served “coloreds”, attempting to serve a mixture quickly meant that it served only blacks. The rules of Jim Crow were as stringent as any law, and the only way to “repeal” it was federal law.

    People who don’t get that are either stupid or just choose not to see,

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/31/2016 @ 8:33 am


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