Patterico's Pontifications

5/29/2016

Trump Won’t Debate Sanders

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:29 am

He said he would — if they put up enough charity money. Then the networks pledged a million and he said it’s gotta be ten million. Then a savvy company got its name in the news by pledging ten million. D’oh! Never saw that coming, did you, moron? Now Lewandowski and the giant pile of hair on his head say Trump won’t waste his time. The joke is, yet again, on anyone who believes anything Donald Trump ever says. Chump suckers.

137 Responses to “Trump Won’t Debate Sanders”

  1. But “Lyin’ Ted” amirite?

    Patterico (5ff298)

  2. I agree with not debating Sanders, but it was stupid to float the “promise” to debate him.

    Mitch (bfd5cd)

  3. SHOCKING! “But he never said he would actually debate Sanders, so he’s not going back on his word! This is all the GOPe’s fault, especially that Lyin’ Ted.”

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  4. 1. Bluff
    2. Raise
    3. Fold

    He really does fight and struggle. It always involves his tweety-bird *ss trying to get away from his alligator mouth though. Just another “no hat, no cattle” day for Trump.

    Rick Ballard (161c5b)

  5. brilliant brilliant he raises bernie’s profile before california without alienating any of the disaffected bernies what might cross over in November

    this are the tactics of a masterful plum lolly

    this are the tactics of a president

    advantage: Mr. The Donald

    happyfeet (831175)

  6. I think Rick Ballard has nailed it. Trump has no internal sense of honor, of being bound by what he said yesterday. So when he says, “I’ll do X,” in that moment, he probably thinks he means it. So he’d pass a polygraph, because he thinks he isn’t lying. But because you can’t trust him to carry through on his promises, for all intents and purposes, it’s not really any different than if he was lying.

    Robin Munn (944040)

  7. OT. I woke up to find an unwanted, unsolicited Microsoft 10 on my computer. I still cant find half my stuff. Has this happened to anyone else? I went from Micro 7 to Micro 10 while I slept without my permission.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  8. say happy?

    yes Sir mr the donald?

    i really really appreciate how you justify everything i do as a ohso smart plan no matter how much i outgas dumbass stuff

    heres your cookie

    mr Sir the donald i would rather have your lollipop

    take it easy happy im not the sucker around here

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  9. Sanders: Voters should take a “hard look” at Clinton emails report

    “The Inspector General just came out with a report, it was not a good report for Secretary Clinton. That is something that the American people, Democrats and delegates are going to have to take a hard look at,” he said.

    wow Mr. Bernie’s running to the right of the nevertrumpers and shining a bright light on porta potty’s rampant criminality and unsuitability for office

    better late than never huh

    happyfeet (831175)

  10. lol

    pikachu has no mirrors

    Yolo i guess

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  11. well you sure as hell don’t live twice dumbass

    happyfeet (831175)

  12. “because he thinks he isn’t lying”

    I believe it has more to do with his assessment of the intelligence and attention span of TrumpChumps. The multitude of intentional lies uttered by Clinton and Obama rely upon parsing and/or unverifiable model constructs targeted slightly above the O-bot/TrumpChump level of gullibility and credulity. Trump is quite capable of shooting a little higher, as will be made manifest in the dissection of the lies of inducement used to perpetuate the Trump University fraud.

    Rick Ballard (161c5b)

  13. All in green went my Trump riding
    on a great horse of gold
    into the silver dawn.

    four lean hounds crouched low and smiling
    the merry deer ran before.

    Fleeter be they than dappled dreams
    the swift sweet deer
    the red rare deer.

    Horn at hip went my Trump riding
    riding the echo down
    into the silver dawn.

    four lean hounds crouched low and smiling
    the level meadows ran before.

    Softer be they than slippered sleep
    the lean lithe deer
    the fleet flown deer.

    Four fleet does at a gold valley
    the famished arrows sang before.

    Bow at belt went my Trump riding
    riding the mountain down into the silver dawn.

    four lean hounds crouched low and smiling
    the sheer peaks ran before.

    Paler be they than daunting death
    the sleek slim deer
    the tall tense deer.

    Four tall stags at a green mountain
    the lucky hunter sang before.

    All in green went my Trump riding
    on a great horse of gold
    into the silver dawn.

    four lean hounds crouched low and smiling
    my heart fell dead before.

    e e cummingsfeet (bfd5cd)

  14. yes yes he lets fly the hungry hungry arrows

    he’s majestic and a splendid fellow besides

    happyfeet (831175)

  15. It’s my sincere hope that the Republican nominee will win the election and move forward to reverse the impotence and incompetence at halting the Left’s conquest of America and its heritage,

    That nominee will have my support and my vote.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  16. The rise of the DEmoness Dowager Hillary Clinton must be stopped.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  17. lol

    pikachu should not call anyone else a dumbass when he is a trumpass

    see what i did there

    he will have to workworkwork to cover up and justrify like olyphant all the lies and pervy commentary

    all pikachu will be left with is an attack on urinary incontinence

    but he has pooped his drawers over a braggy lie lie shamwow huckster what with spraytan and hairplugs and eurotrash hookers

    all hail true conservative principles!

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/oops-i-crapped-my-pants/n11128

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  18. Debate between Bernie and Donnie:

    Bernie: The Kaiser is out to steal my string.
    Donnie: No, it’s China.
    Bernie: That’s People’s Republic of China, you bourgeois pig.
    Donnie: That’s what I said, loser, China.
    Bernie: No, you call it … is that Hillary under there?
    Donnie: Under where?
    Bernie: Heh, heh, got you! You said underwear.
    Donnie: Loser.

    nk (dbc370)

  19. so much depends
    upon

    an orange
    spray tan

    topped with a blond
    weave

    beside the third
    wife.

    William Carlos Williamsfeet (bfd5cd)

  20. When the Republican nominee is a Lying Leftist dirtbag, voting for such a one will do NOTHING to stop the slow march of the Left. It will put the Left in Ludicrous Speed.

    #NeverTrump #NeverHillary

    John Hitchcock (bf5f0a)

  21. Mr. Trump will do real good on making it to where leftists hate his guts cause of how pro-jobs he will be.

    Leftists hate employed people (unless they’re piggy piggy union trash.)

    Not Mr. Trump he loves it when people have jobs!

    He’s the JOBS candidate, and he

    is

    marvelous!

    happyfeet (831175)

  22. Bluffs can indeed be a useful tactic, but I still haven’t figured out why Trump supporters think the promises they like aren’t also bluffs.
    Also, good job nk, you win the Internet.

    CayleyGraph (353727)

  23. lolo pikachu

    quit yer trumpsnufflin’

    the only jobs your dreamboat cares about are illegals and eurotrash hookers

    besides he always changes his tiny minds on every topic like how sciency types think about salt

    you so funny

    this is for mr sir nk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5yVUCTrE9o

    lol

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  24. no you’re wrong Mr. Trump loves jobs a lot

    but check out porta potty

    she wants to rape jobs even more viciously than food stamp

    “I’m the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country,” she said. “Because we’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.”

    advantage: Mr. The Donald, the jobs candidate

    happyfeet (831175)

  25. Trump pushes back hard
    sauce for gander good for teh goose
    kiss my ass Clinton

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  26. wake up naysayers!
    -sitting on your goddam hands
    -only give you piles

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  27. 9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

    If you cannot associate with them, or even eat with them, you cannot vote for them. #NeverTrump #NeverHillary

    John Hitchcock (bf5f0a)

  28. “EL BUSTED: Telemundo Caught Staging Shot at Anti-Trump Protest in San Diego (video at link below).

    Related: “Aside from watching his reaction to being busted, the best moment by far was the sight of the cameraman trying to explain to the protesters that their beloved Mexican flag was flying upside-down.”

    Telemundo is owned by NBC, which employs at least one spokesman extremely familiar with faking protests and ginning up riots.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/234953-2/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  29. This Olyphant is funny:

    steveg (fed1c9)

  30. Some white trash lout put my 8 pieces of chicken into a 4-piece size bag at the Jewel deli counter. Then handed it to me with a “Here you go”. I had to ask him to give me a bigger bag so it wouldn’t spill out. F*** it! Obama 2016! Bring us Mexicans who want to work!

    nk (dbc370)

  31. Just wait until October when he quits the race and endorses Hillary.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  32. oh nonono lovestruck pikachu

    you lurve finding articles lamposting the female clintoon

    but you have missed what the effects the megamouth puss caterpillar would have

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/25/donald-trumps-trade-war-could-kill-millions-of-u-s-jobs/

    all you can say is nuh-huh

    your pompoms and knee pads keep you from thinking clearly

    like you your boyfriend just yaps and yaps with no center

    like an axe smelling orange poofy dog with alopecia on a government leash covered with cubic zirconia

    anyone who reviews the evidence without trumpsnuffling knows this

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  33. cowardly failmerica is *already* doing trade war on the plucky chinesers to try to save jobs for fat-ass illiterate failmerican steelworker uniontrash

    happyfeet (831175)

  34. lol

    push ’em back push ’em back

    waaaay back

    he still isnt taking you to the prom

    maybe dennys when none of his friends are watching

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  35. At the risk of being little more than “a knowingly lying piece of caca tuckfard”, I agree with the Colonel @27.

    If three more Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s on the Supreme Court appeals to you, don’t vote for Trump.
    If the idea of loosing Congress turns you on, don’t vote Trump.
    If you think completing Obama’s total takeover of the government by leftist communists is “cool” don’t vote for Trump.
    If you don’t need the First and Second Amendments, don’t vote for Trump.
    If having a President who is 100% against everything you stand for is more appealing than having a flawed President who’s only 50% for what you stand for, don’t vote for Trump.
    And if you admire a person who you’ve never once heard say: “I love America”, don’t vote Trump.

    It’s obvious. Hillary’s a communist and Trump’s a capitalist. If they’re both scoundrels, fools, liars, vulgar pigs, law breakers and narcissistic idiots there is still a communist hiding under Hillary’s pantsuit. Trump wins.

    45 years ago today I was crawling around a stinkin’ sweaty jungle because it was my duty. I fought, bled and killed for this country and I didn’t do it for a$$holes like Obama, or grifters like Hillary or even foul-mouthed idiots like Trump. I did it for us. For you and me and I didn’t even know you. For our families. For what I believe to be the Great and Noble promise that once was America and can be again. We need to stop Hillary. God Bless America.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  36. its kinda fun to watch trumpsnufflers like pikachu deal with the puss caterpillar what talks all the time and says nothing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqHzwdmU3Sg

    like vegans forced to eat trump steaks

    pikachu your boyfriend is what a person who believes in nothing

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  37. Preach it, Rev!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  38. some people just like to sit back and watch it burn Mr. Reverend

    happyfeet (831175)

  39. at last pikachu takes his trumpsnuffler mask off

    good for you

    i hope you release some beautiful butterflies in joyous celebration of your deep conservative principles

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  40. #28

    Whatever happened to:

    Now if you feel inclined to set yourself up as a judge of those who sin, let me assure you, whoever you are, that you are in no position to do so. For at whatever point you condemn others you automatically condemn yourself, since you, the judge, commit the same sins. God’s judgment, we know, is utterly impartial in its action against such evil-doers. What makes you think that you who so readily judge the sins of others, can consider yourself beyond the judgment of God? Are you, perhaps, misinterpreting God’s generosity and patient mercy towards you as weakness on his part?

    steveg (fed1c9)

  41. Sanders has to win the nomination first.

    If Trump went outside of protocol he’d look all desperate, like a Ted picking a VP to impress Indiana.

    Poor Carly. She was running for vice president from the beginning. Ted tees up the football then snatches it away.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  42. Sorry I left out the attribution:
    Its the beginning of Romans 2

    steveg (fed1c9)

  43. yeah harvardtrash ted went maximum fringe so-con with carly fetalroehha and a tranny schlong jihad at the worst possible time

    he’s just not a smart man

    happyfeet (831175)

  44. meanwhile Mr. The Donald was talking about Carrier and jobs

    advantage: Mr. The Donald

    happyfeet (831175)

  45. “Staging the news” by telling them they’ve got the Mexican flag upside down? I thought this was going to be some phony beat-down or something.

    What a weak weak stretch. Phony outrage is what it is.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  46. the telemundo propaganda slut also profusely thanks the protesters for their cooperation

    happyfeet (831175)

  47. wake up smell catfood
    it’s dog eat dog cat eat mouse
    imperfect wake up!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. I believe Ecclesiastes 2 sums up Trump, and the internal and external changes a leader of his type must make:

    Study of Pleasure-seeking. 1 I said in my heart,[a] “Come, now, let me try you with pleasure and the enjoyment of good things.” See, this too was vanity. 2 Of laughter I said: “Mad!” and of mirth: “What good does this do?” 3 Guided by wisdom,[b] I probed with my mind how to beguile my senses with wine and take up folly, until I should understand what is good for human beings to do under the heavens during the limited days of their lives.

    4 I undertook great works; I built myself houses and planted vineyards; 5 I made gardens and parks, and in them set out fruit trees of all sorts. 6 And I constructed for myself reservoirs to water a flourishing woodland. 7 I acquired male and female slaves, and had slaves who were born in my house. I also owned vast herds of cattle and flocks of sheep, more than all who had been before me in Jerusalem. 8 I amassed for myself silver and gold, and the treasures of kings and provinces. I provided for myself male and female singers and delights of men, many women.[c] 9 I accumulated much more than all others before me in Jerusalem; my wisdom, too, stayed with me. 10 Nothing that my eyes desired did I deny them, nor did I deprive myself of any joy; rather, my heart rejoiced in the fruit of all my toil. This was my share for all my toil. 11 But when I turned to all the works that my hands had wrought, and to the fruit of the toil for which I had toiled so much, see! all was vanity and a chase after wind. There is no profit under the sun. 12 What about one who succeeds a king? He can do only what has already been done.[d]

    Study of Wisdom and Folly. I went on to the consideration of wisdom, madness and folly. 13 And I saw that wisdom has as much profit over folly as light has over darkness.

    14
    Wise people have eyes in their heads,
    but fools walk in darkness.

    Yet I knew that the same lot befalls both.[e] 15 So I said in my heart, if the fool’s lot is to befall me also, why should I be wise? Where is the profit? And in my heart I decided that this too is vanity. 16 The wise person will have no more abiding remembrance than the fool; for in days to come both will have been forgotten. How is it that the wise person dies[f] like the fool! 17 Therefore I detested life, since for me the work that is done under the sun is bad; for all is vanity and a chase after wind.
    Study of the Fruits of Toil

    To Others the Profits. 18 And I detested all the fruits of my toil under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who is to come after me. 19 And who knows whether that one will be wise or a fool? Yet that one will take control of all the fruits of my toil and wisdom under the sun. This also is vanity. 20 So my heart turned to despair over all the fruits of my toil under the sun. 21 For here is one who has toiled with wisdom and knowledge and skill, and that one’s legacy must be left to another who has not toiled for it. This also is vanity and a great evil. 22 For what profit comes to mortals from all the toil and anxiety of heart with which they toil under the sun? 23 Every day sorrow and grief are their occupation; even at night their hearts are not at rest. This also is vanity.

    24 [g]There is nothing better for mortals than to eat and drink and provide themselves with good things from their toil. Even this, I saw, is from the hand of God. 25 For who can eat or drink apart from God? 26 [h]For to the one who pleases God, he gives wisdom and knowledge and joy; but to the one who displeases, God gives the task of gathering possessions for the one who pleases God. This also is vanity and a chase after wind.

    steveg (fed1c9)

  49. Kevin M.’s with the protestors. Go Kevin!
    Report news, don’t choreograph.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  50. When H Clinton loses will she go back to carpetbagging a slot in the Senate, or doing Yoga in the space freed up by the DOJ removed her server?

    Neither. It’s off to Leavenworth for her.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  51. snuffle snuffle snuffle pikachu

    someday your prince will come

    the rain ain’t purple today

    and your boyfriend makes a lot of noise and no sense

    i know it hurts you but you have to wake up

    just a yuuge empty suit full of angry slogans and axe body spray

    with pockets full of goldy sacky money

    don’t be a rube like rubio

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  52. But you don’t want to be on that trial. Well, maybe Beldar would want to be on that trial for the exposure. Build up the blog traffic with NYT and WaPo reporters.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  53. If three more Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s on the Supreme Court appeals to you, don’t vote for Trump.

    I live in California. Your GOP Court has effed us more times than I can count. Prop 8, Prop 187, etc. Why should I care any more?

    If the idea of loosing Congress turns you on, don’t vote Trump.

    My Congresswoman is Maxine Waters. I’d like to lose her, but it doesn’t seem likely.

    If you think completing Obama’s total takeover of the government by leftist communists is “cool” don’t vote for Trump.

    Instead, it can be taken over by legions of Yahoo Sunglasses guys who can’t stay sober long enough to fill out a job app.

    If you don’t need the First and Second Amendments, don’t vote for Trump.

    Trump has long been against both of them. He says he’s reformed, but wants to make “libel” easy to charge, censor the internet, stifle political speech and his word is sh1t anyway so who knows?

    If having a President who is 100% against everything you stand for is more appealing than having a flawed President who’s only 50% for what you stand for, don’t vote for Trump.

    Suppose it’s 90% vs 90%?

    And if you admire a person who you’ve never once heard say: “I love America”, don’t vote Trump.

    Obama has said that. Jimmy Carter has said that. Bill Clinton has said that. “God Bless America”, too. Means nothing.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  54. If Donald Trump manages to curb most of his more outrageous outbursts by November

    –the VDH article linked at #19

    Yes, and if Obama stops being a supercilious arrogant autotheist*…..

    There is much virtue in an if, to quote the Bard.

    *autotheist: term for extreme narcissiom coined by a Catholic friend of mine.
    As opposed to those like Col. Haiku and Steve57 who views classic Mustangs and Corvettes as divine manifestations.

    kishnevi (94a358)

  55. Kevin M.’s with the protestors. Go Kevin!
    Report news, don’t choreograph.

    Ah, Colonel, back you your lying sack o sh1t hyper-partisan ways. “My party right or wrong.” Sucks to be you.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  56. the telemundo propaganda slut also profusely thanks the protesters for their cooperation

    Go back to watching more of Hannity’s fair and balanced interviews of The Donald.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  57. amoral pervert Mitt Romney is reduced to slinging his perv-hash to the guardian

    someone needs to help that poor man

    happyfeet (831175)

  58. i don;t watch cable news Mr. M I watch Preacher and I just started Hunters

    which is an American show filmed in Melbourne and i think Melbourne is somewhere i’d love to go someday so that’s so far my favorite part about the whole show

    happyfeet (831175)

  59. This is for Rev H.

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2960692/windows/how-to-uninstall-windows-10-and-go-back-to-windows-7-or-8.html

    Microsoft is trying to force everyone they can into W10.

    I have XP on my computer. Which I haven’t turned on for several months because my tablet does everything I need (except print documents, and at the moment I don’t need to print documents very often), so no updating for me.

    kishnevi (94a358)

  60. *don’t* watch cable news i mean

    happyfeet (831175)

  61. Of course but in mexico, 47 rambunctious students never see the light of day again, and the pope doesn’t say a word.

    narciso (732bc0)

  62. Yes, a nice reflection linked by steveg, even the first several comments were good,
    But as kishnevi alludes to,
    if Trump keeps doing stupid stuff it will be harder and harder for some people to think he is worth their vote.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  63. the pope is even more depraved than Mitt Romney Mr. narciso

    these are dark times

    happyfeet (831175)

  64. So, when the world’s computer networks have terminally crashed from cyber warfare…
    kishnevi will be there to save the day

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  65. I read a NYT article about the meltdown of Venezuela,
    it offered the drop in oil prices and a drought as the main factors in the events,
    and spending too much when oil prices were higher.

    That was the analysis offered.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  66. lol pikachu calls romney a perv twice

    while hes saving himself for daddy in the tranny bathroom

    the irony burns

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  67. I thought Rubio acquitted himself well. He didn’t sell out to Trump, while at the same time affirming he would be honored to speak at the convention under the neverhillary cause.

    Say where did this “I didn’t order assholes with my whiskey” YouTube come from?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  68. “God Bless America”, too. Means nothing.

    That’s a sad thing to say on Memorial Day, Kevin M. Why d you believe asking our Lord to bless our country “means nothing”? At the very least it means good will toward our nation an that’s something. Or don’t you like America?

    And what’s with:

    Ah, Colonel, back you your lying sack o sh1t hyper-partisan ways. “My party right or wrong.” Sucks to be you.

    Actually with an attitude and personality like that it must truly suck to be you. Have you worked on that amount of a display of hate long or does it come natural along with the disrespect?

    In your comment #54 you did a fabulous job attempting to defame all my points yet you failed miserably. You seem to be a very hostile person, prone to frequent outbursts of insults and innuendo and incapable of playing well with others. Has this character flaw impacted other aspects of your life or does it reveal itself only on the internet where being anonymous guarantees you won’t loose your teeth?

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  69. he’s a sour pickle

    stella needs to get her groove back

    happyfeet (831175)

  70. MD@66

    Yes: it’s called detailing how the money of other people finally ran out.

    And my knowledge of Windows 10 came from the Borepatch blog.

    kishnevi (94a358)

  71. Have we proven worthy of his blessing, I don’t think so, but then again he have his greatest gift when mankind didn’t deserve it.

    narciso (732bc0)

  72. Window 10 doesn’t fit on my dell, like a guinea pug stuck in a cobra.

    narciso (732bc0)

  73. Simon Jester, are you there….or failing that, does anyone have real world contact with him?
    http://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2016/05/blog-post.html
    Click through the link, and you will see why I am concerned.

    kishnevi (94a358)

  74. yes he’s fine

    happyfeet (831175)

  75. I don’t think that has any link to our Simon,
    but if he doesn’t show up soon, a few of us have direct contact with his lair.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  76. but the way I read the article,
    the naming of the economic system that spends other people’s money was conspicuous by its absence,
    maybe I misread it.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  77. Thank you!

    kishnevi (94a358)

  78. He Had some family issues, don’t know of they have all been resolved.

    narciso (732bc0)

  79. Trump’s problem in debating Sanders is that the kinds of answers he gave in the GOP debates were largely either about himself, or attacks on his opponents, or a few generalities that were targeted to specific voting blocks, e.g. “We aren’t protecting Christians”, “The police aren’t getting enough support”, “We don’t win any more”, etc. And of course there was his bread and butter issue, illegals. Other that he had little to say. For some weird reason that got him lots of votes.

    However in debating Sanders he might have to explain why Sanders’ Medicare for All proposal isn’t a good idea. The problem is Trump doesn’t really know why.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  80. Rev. Hoagie,

    I do hope to meet you face to face sometime,
    and you certainly have real world war experience that demands our respect even if there is some degree of disagreement.

    Kevin M. can speak for himself, but I thought he meant that for someone to voice the words “God bless America” doesn’t mean anything about the person saying those words, not that the phrase itself is devoid of meaning.

    I don’t think I know if Trump agrees with 1% or 100% with me on policy positions, that is the problem comparing him to anybody. By the given history, Trump is for the Trumpster at the expense of the legitimate claims of others, be they sick family members or workers on a project that went through bankruptcy.
    As I have said before, I want to see what people have done over time,
    not what they have said in the last 6 months.
    If the choice in November is Clinton vs. Trump, I will vote for Clinton because of all that she stands for,
    but that will be the only solid reason I will have to vote for Trump,
    whatever he promises means nothing to me.
    I would not trust him to invest money in a development of his
    I will not trust him to vote for him for president.
    I will vote for him if I have to and hope and pray that the devil we get is better than the devil we know

    But I am still hoping and praying that will not be the case.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  81. He who exalts himself will be humbled,
    but often it is not on the time scale of our preference with limited knowledge.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  82. Kevin M… enjoy your Sunday!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  83. “If the choice in November is Clinton vs. Trump, I will vote for Clinton because of all that she stands for,”

    Physician… heal thyself!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  84. Dear Kishnevi:

    If you were asking about me, yes, I am fine.

    I checked out the link, and it was sad. I’m of an age where people I know are passing away, and it is makes me thoughtful.

    Do you know this poem?

    http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/42633

    It has what I thought was a horribly depressive line:

    Time is the fire in which we burn

    But in the poem, there is a hope of sorts:

    Time is the school in which we learn

    My nickname here was never my preference, but I had little choice. I love me my some RAH, and TMIAHM is my favorite of his novels, so there you go.

    Maybe I should have picked “Professor Bernardo de la Paz.”

    Thanks again for your concern, truly.

    Simon Jester (1d2cec)

  85. Simon…thank you. A death in my remoter family, a person who should have had several more good years in front of me, has been affecting my mood.

    And thank you for the poem. Time is the refiner’s fire.

    MD: I used to say that God has all the time in the world to do what he wants.

    kishnevi (86e9bc)

  86. i was worried sick

    don’t you ever do that again

    happyfeet (831175)

  87. 32. Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/29/2016 @ 10:18 am

    Just wait until October when he quits the race and endorses Hillary.

    I (and a few other people) heard from someone, who said he heard from someone, who was in the room, where a group of Russians offered to finance one of the candidates against Vladimir Putin. I don’t know the election, and I wasn’t familiar enough for the name to have stuuck in my mind. Maybe Vladimir Zhirinovsky. (in that case before his political profile became too well known) But this candidate didn’t want to take it. It seems like he wanted to be “Leader of the Opposition” not president. Anything more maybe scared him.

    But this is not Russia. And none of the candidates actually quit there, in all the elections Vladimir Putin has run. Putin’s tactic was always to have an unacceptable opponent.

    Sammy Finkelman (febafc)

  88. kishnevi (94a358) — 5/29/2016 @ 11:02 am

    I have XP on my computer.

    XP is the last version of Windows that let’s you run MS-DOS programs (without getting a special program to it> I think also it can’t be updated directly to Windows 8 or higher, which is good. I don’t even upgrade Internet Explorer even though it’s giving me some problems now. I should use a different browser for difficult web sites.

    Sammy Finkelman (febafc)

  89. Colonel…
    I am aghast at what my phone did there…
    Somebody must have hacked it
    Scary
    I will never vote for Clinton because of all she stands for.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  90. In the event of it being T vs. C in November I will vote Trump because of all C stands for
    but don’t ask me to pretend I am voting for Trump.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  91. I have reservations about trump, but this is mostly a binary contests, the libertarian candidate, who has doubts about involvement in both world wars is not a viable candidate, and neither is whoever independent candidate the #willing for hillary, settle on,

    narciso (732bc0)

  92. In the event of it being T vs. C in November I will vote Trump because of all C stands for
    but don’t ask me to pretend I am voting for Trump.

    And there will be none to gainsay you. Thoughtful principled position.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  93. Trump not only questioned the judge, he said the court system is rigged.

    Making America Great by undermining the American legal system. Trump is Obama 2.0.

    DRJ (15874d)

  94. Remember when Obama said the court system is unfair? He and Trump are two peas in a pod.

    DRJ (15874d)

  95. the court system, it is so good

    happyfeet (831175)

  96. lol… I figured as much, MD, I was just having some fun.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  97. we need a president that will not question the unquestionable goodness of failmerica’s court system

    it is the irreproachable system of courts (as you know)

    i do not understand how Mr. Trump could find fault with this system, it is so good

    happyfeet (831175)

  98. well conrad black and scooter libby and senator stevens, but you might have a little trouble reaching him,

    narciso (732bc0)

  99. oh just stop it now

    happyfeet (831175)

  100. and the court that certified jeffrey epstein’s plea bargain, that ken starr and alan dershowitz crafted as a persil, as they said after the war.

    narciso (732bc0)

  101. Guess who that rapist Bill Clinton appointed to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals.
    I’ll give you three guesses.
    Give up?
    Trump’s sister.

    nk (dbc370)

  102. I much appreciated your bringing that to my attention, colonel.
    It makes me wonder just who is in control of this “smart phone” after all….

    Kind of like the outer limits

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  103. If Trump really isn’t in it to throw it to HRC,
    I wonder what the Clintons did to p him off.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  104. “The joke is, yet again, on anyone who believes anything Donald Trump ever says. Chump suckers.”

    Chump suckers. Translation: conservatives have been Trumped.

    “NEVER GIVE A SUCKER AN EVEN BREAK OR SMARTEN UP A CHUMP.” — W.C. Fields.

    A debate about a debate with Bernie is what? E-N-T-E-R-T-A-I-N-M-E-N-T. And who profits from it?
    E-N-T-E-R-T-A-I-N-M-E-N-T entities. Like a network. Or a Trump. Another week of news cycles gets bigfooted and diverted away from putting Trump on the defensive by hammering him on hiding his taxes with a meaningless, bright, shiny object. Mike Deaver 101.

    Sooner or later the children of the Reagan era will learn that Americans don’t want to be governed; they wish to be entertained.

    DCSCA (a343d5)

  105. JFK: PT-109.
    TRUMP: PT BARNUM.

    DCSCA (a343d5)

  106. mr doctor md you know what mr lenny kravitz sang

    let love rule

    you know billy’s bitter bitter enabler what has megalomania as well as email problems and braggy braggy liar spray tan pants on fire filled with goldy sacky money are besties and baos

    just like the batcherolettie on television

    hillary and donald

    sittin’ in a tree

    countin’ all the monies from their b-r-i-b-e-r-y

    its a thing

    thing i like mostest is “real” conservatives and progressives supporting such doodlehums

    you can see how embarrassed they are by the lines what around their squinting sad eyes

    shame is a powerful thing

    trumpyfeet (1d2cec)

  107. OT. I woke up to find an unwanted, unsolicited Microsoft 10 on my computer. I still cant find half my stuff. Has this happened to anyone else? I went from Micro 7 to Micro 10 while I slept without my permission.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 5/29/2016 @ 7:55 am

    What a coincidence! I woke up to find an unwanted, unsolicited Fat Lying Doofus as head of my party. I can’t find half the brainpower. Has this happened to anyone else? I went from having a GOP (Grand Old Party) to having a COP (Cult of Personality) while I slept without my permission.

    L.N. Smithee (e92da8)

  108. ‘don’t get me wrong’ riffs on billy joel, cortana is a helpful assistant,

    narciso (732bc0)

  109. I’ve got recovery disks for my computer. If only we had them for the Republican Party.

    nk (dbc370)

  110. stacking the appeals courts for the last six years, makes any redux of heller unlikely without scalia,

    narciso (732bc0)

  111. You are wrong. We don’t need another policy wonk, hunkering down behind a desk.
    We need a pugilist. We need a loud mouth out front who generates his own steam.
    A guy who doesn’t wait for problems to fester. Meets the day head on. Knows how to play the press.

    What is your malfunction? God bless America.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  112. you need both, one who realizes the campaign is like mma, ultimate fighting, no quarter given,
    and some to implement the policy,

    narciso (732bc0)

  113. Demented Donna in a boxing ring would go after the referee. If he was half his size. The other boxer he would call names from his corner.

    nk (dbc370)

  114. the new FGL hurts my teeth it’s so bad

    happyfeet (831175)

  115. who’s responsible for this crap

    happyfeet (831175)

  116. Was ist FGL?

    nk (dbc370)

  117. because the referee, harwood, dickerson, king, usually are on the other side,

    narciso (732bc0)

  118. the new florida georgia line

    they did the video in melbourne which is my new thing

    but it’s a dippy hipster video

    i hope they don’t ruin melbourne for me

    happyfeet (831175)

  119. Man drops bid to be Libertarian party chair by strip dancing live on CSPAN. link

    Caution. Also wow.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  120. Trump has all the idiots in a fog of confusion. He has them chasing their own tails worrying about petty details while he wraps up the big prize. He says stuff to provoke people until they bite, then he claims he never said it. He knows you can prove it, he’s not an idiot. But he doesn’t care that you can prove it. It’s a nothing, a distraction intended to tie up critics with pointless trivia and arguments of no substance.

    Do you think a man known for lying and breaking his word can get by on handshake deals like he does? He is true to his word when it counts, and he lets the pathetic worriers scurry around waving their pathetic arguments while he gets on with winning. He’s taken them all out of the game by throwing this chum out. No one listens to a worrier who has some new thing to worry about each day. It gets tuned out because it’s trivial nonsense.

    Mr Black (7c41e5)

  121. That is funny Mr Black. Ask some of the vendors and contractors who lost their asses in his bankruptcies how good The Donald is at living up to his commitments.

    JD (7fd277)

  122. He knows how to sucker idiots, who’ll believe what they want to believe and ignore reality because the reality is that they’re losers who cannot compete with illiterate foreigners in the job market.

    nk (dbc370)

  123. About 11.7 million of them. http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/R Let’s see if he gets the other 53-54 million he needs to win the general.

    nk (dbc370)

  124. How many did Romney get, after smashing his rivals with 150 million.

    narciso (b19692)

  125. Mr. Black,

    Trumps’ business model is not admirable:

    The major banks, for their part, say they are leery of lending to him after having lost millions of dollars on past deals. Lawyers and contractors he has hired in the past say he is slow to pay his bills, and often shortchanges them. Even the few Wall Street executives who say privately that he is a friend are loath to speak publicly about him.
    ***
    Unpaid Bills

    Besides the legal battles, the way Mr. Trump has managed business relationships has been a source of friction.

    One contractor, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of being sued by Mr. Trump, said Mr. Trump underpaid on one large job, at one of his towers, by almost $100,000. The contractor opted not to sue, estimating the litigation would cost more than the losses. The two parties have not done business since.

    Lawyers who spoke to The Times had similar stories.

    Mr. Trump revels in his reputation, boasting about not paying some of his outstanding legal and construction bills. “If they do a bad job, they have to suffer,” he said. “If they overbill me or if they don’t do a good job, I take plenty of time to pay them and I negotiate with them.”

    Trump’s guiding principle is and always has been about Getting Even, and his authoritarian-craving supporters seem to love him for it.

    DRJ (15874d)

  126. Around 61 million, fewer than Obama’s ~65.

    But Trump will get what he really wants. What every simian-descended hominid wants. Attention.

    nk (dbc370)

  127. Memoria1 Day.

    You could see the attraction, considering you grew up when an 85hp Flathead V8 was state of the art.

    http://www.ptboats.org/20-01-05-ptboat-008.html

    The Packard 4M-2500 engine was utilized in all U.S. Navy World War II PT boats. This engine was based on the 1925 Liberty aircraft engine which was earlier converted for marine use in racing boats. During the war the Packard engine went through various performance updates and modifications. With early engines rated at 1100 h.p. and progressing to 1500 h.p. during the war…

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  128. Three of them. In every boat. Hoist one to the maintainers.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  129. Yeah, I know I misspelled memorial day. Typo.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  130. I know. Wikipedia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hammann_%28DD-412%29#The_Battle_of_Midway

    …A skeleton crew returned on board the Yorktown, and attempts were made to
    tow her to safety. Hammann came alongside on 6 June to transfer a damage control party. The destroyer then lay alongside, providing hoses and water for firefighting, power, and other services while tied up next to the carrier.

    The salvage party was making progress when the protective destroyer screen was penetrated by Japanese submarine I-168 after noon on 6 June. Four torpedoes were loosed; one missed, two passed under Hammann and hit Yorktown, and the fourth hit the destroyer amidships, breaking her in half.

    As the debris from the explosion rained down and the ships lurched apart, it was apparent that the Hammann was doomed.

    Yahachi Tanabe drove his boat balls to the walls that day. Nobody can take that away. And now hoist one for the salvage crew.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  131. Many of those killed in Hammann were killed when the depth charges went off. The Navy docs autopsied them later. Just to know what they were dealing with. I wasn’t even there. Still, I know the results. Still, I’m sick to my stomach.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  132. Attacking a salvage crew would be considered a war crime, what happened with sub I 68?

    narciso (732bc0)

  133. Attention to citation, you lousy MoFos.

    http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=80612

    The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the
    NAVY AND MARINE CORPS MEDAL posthumously to

    MASTER-AT-ARMS SECOND CLASS MARK A. MAYO
    UNITED STATES NAVY

    for service as set forth in the following

    CITATION:

    For heroism while serving at Naval Station Norfolk Security Detachment, Norfolk, Virginia on 24 March 2014. While performing his duties as Chief of the Guard, Petty Officer Mayo was alerted to a suspicious individual walking towards USS MAHAN (DDG 72) on Pier 1, Naval Station Norfolk. Petty Officer Mayo pursued the individual up the brow of the ship while both he and the Quarterdeck watch-standers directed the individual to stop and provide identification. Failing to comply, the individual approached the Quarterdeck, attacked and disarmed the Petty Officer of the Watch. After boarding the ship, Petty Officer Mayo realized that the Petty Officer of the Watch no longer had control of her weapon. With complete and total disregard for his own personal safety, Petty Officer Mayo immediately placed himself between the Petty Officer of the Watch and the assailant. While fearlessly engaging the assailant and shielding the Petty Officer of the Watch, Petty Officer Mayo was fatally wounded. His exceptionally brave actions saved the lives of four watch-standers and ensured the safety of the entire crew of USS MAHAN (DDG 72). By his courageous and prompt actions in the face of great personal risk, Petty Officer Mayo prevented the loss of lives, thereby reflecting great credit upon himself and upholding the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service…

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  134. 132. Attacking a salvage crew would be considered a war crime, what happened with sub I 68?
    narciso (732bc0) — 5/30/2016 @ 7:51 am

    I’m not sure about that given a salvage crew would likely deliver a ship to the enemy.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  135. For it, sunk near new Hanover isle by the use scamp, a little over a year later.

    narciso (732bc0)


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