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5/22/2016

Washington Post: Here Is Our Latest Poll, But It Might Be A Little Bit Misleading

Filed under: General — Dana @ 11:09 am



[guest post by Dana]

From the Washington Post:

“At this point, the two candidates are in a statistical dead heat among registered voters, with Trump favored by 46 percent and Clinton favored by 44 percent. That represents an 11-point shift toward the presumptive Republican nominee since March. Among all adults, Clinton holds a six-point lead (48 percent to 42 percent), down from 18 points in March.”

Amusingly, the Washington Post also has a report at The Fix which attempts to minimize, if not dismiss, the same polling data:

As it stands, registered voters prefer Trump by a narrow two-point margin.

But that figure is probably a bit misleading. No one is actively running against Trump. Clinton is still being challenged by Bernie Sanders, whose vocal base of young voters continues to hope that he’ll defy the odds between now and the convention. Republicans who were leaning against Trump while he was still battling for the nomination have, largely, fallen in line. Democrats who don’t want to vote for Clinton haven’t.

–Dana

128 Responses to “Washington Post: Here Is Our Latest Poll, But It Might Be A Little Bit Misleading”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  2. No one can accuse the Washington Post of being unbiased, straightforward reporters of the news. They are well in the tank for Hillary Clinton.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  3. it makes me not wanna buy so much amazon crap

    i been using jet.com more and more (15% off your first order!)

    happyfeet (831175)

  4. Trump: 46%
    Inmate #749342: 44%

    http://americandigest.org/sidelines/2016/05/#a033550

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  5. I remember how in 2008 the Hillary supporters were all threatening to sit out the general election in order to spite that Senator Barack guy who did Their Queen wrong.
    But they didn’t.

    The Sanders Crowd is a different animal. Many of them see Hillary as a corporate pig.

    However, I do have to say that Hillary’s “44%” really is around the ceiling for where she was polling against Rubio and Cruz in head-to-head matchups for months. So there’s some hope that The Mr Donald can pull the upset against that witch.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  6. Hillary’s for sure a corporate pig this is a picture of her with the head goldy sacky

    happyfeet (831175)

  7. I have a feeling that in the debates Trump’s going to throw the kitchen sink at her, and she won’t have a passionate or able response. And then he’ll say, “This woman claims she was dead broke when she and Bill left the White House. She was either lying, or she’s incompetent—but no President and First Lady should be ‘dead broke’ when they leave the White House, unless they have no idea how to manage money. And if she can’t manage her own money, how can she be trusted to manage America’s money?

    And then he’ll hit her with,”I’m a billionaire–I’m not for sale, and I will lose money by becoming President, whereas Hillary and Bill will only gain money. I will do what’s right for working Americans, whereas Hillary and Bill will do what’s right for Hillary and Bill.”

    Perhaps I’m overstating Trump’s articulation by attributing the word “whereas” to him several times within a minute.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  8. oh my goodness Mr. Trey Gowdy endorsed Donald Trump not pee-stank!

    that’s a real curve ball

    happyfeet (831175)

  9. Mr happyfeet, have you ever seen “Casablanca?”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  10. pee-stank and herpes boy had a TON of legal bills when they left the white house

    a lot of people forget how many legal problems they had

    happyfeet (831175)

  11. it’s on my list Mr. Supporter

    happyfeet (831175)

  12. Morning Dana. Ever try to give the cat a bath in the toilet bowl?
    That’s what the Washington Post reporting on Trumps rise reminds me of.

    They just really really don’t want to do it.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  13. Mr happyfeet, how can you consider yourself a well-rounded cultural scion if you’ve never yet seen “Casablanca”?

    I was going to quote something from the film for you.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  14. it’s not on prime

    happyfeet (831175)

  15. Snoopy using the toilet.

    If only the the Wapo could do it like that.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  16. Wapo getting ready to report the new poll numbers. (YouTube)

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  17. Cruz supporter, Trump won’t disappoint, he knows whereas is just south of the back of his belt.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  18. I’m certainly no Trump supporter but this is incredible bias on the part of the Post.

    This is a huge change and instead of dismissing it or explaining it away the Post and the press should be giving this major play.

    SteveMG (54de06)

  19. Slice it, dice it, any way you like it, Hillary is the center running against two fringe candidates right now. And I mean more than the fringe around their bald domes. Although that’s another thing they have in common besides their appeal to dingbats.

    BTW, the word that starts with “p” and ends with “k” and the letters in between are “in” and is a color like rose will put you in moderation even if it includes other letters in front or back. That’s what happened to that comment of yours, Hoagie.

    nk (dbc370)

  20. The following excerpt is from Brietbart

    Jack Nicklaus: Donald Trump is ‘awakening the country’

    Professional golfer Jack Nicklaus praised presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump during an interview on CBS Sunday Morning.

    “I like what Donald has done. … [H]e’s turning America upside down,” Nicklaus, who has won the Masters six times, explained to CBS’s Jim Axelrod. “He’s awakening the country.”

    Well, Trump is awakening most of the country. Some are still asleep, and others are in bed with the covers pulled up over their heads.

    ropelight (4c7a33)

  21. And if she can’t manage her own money, how can she be trusted to manage America’s money?”

    That would have been coming from anyone else.

    But with El Tupe, the obvious answer is

    Well, at least I never declared bankruptcy. Just how many times did you default on your debts, Mr. Trump?

    kishnevi (93670d)

  22. That would have been *great* coming from anyone else.

    kishnevi (93670d)

  23. Hillary’s for sure a corporate pig this is a picture of her with the head goldy sacky

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/22/2016 @ 11:48 am

    i know i know so sad

    nothing like this link where its a goldy sacky meeting with pee-stank and poo-stank

    pee-stank is so bad with talking with the goldy sacky head

    nothing like poo-stank having a goldy sack on his campaign

    but that’s okay because it’ll be great

    great I think great

    sadfeet (ddead1)

  24. We’ve discussed in the past how much of a Hill-shill that particular Washington Post writer is. His message to liberals: Calm yourselves, those of us in the Washington establishment will do everything we can to make sure she pulls through.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  25. Well, Trump is awakening most of the country. Some are still asleep, and others are in bed with the covers pulled up over their heads.

    God bless Jack Nicklaus, but if memory serves he’s a pretty consistent Republican voter. So when he claims that the country is being awakened, we have to put it in context of a guy who regularly votes GOP announcing that he will once again vote GOP. I don’t think we can treat this has evidence that new voters are flocking to the Republican party, and the whole appeal of the presumptive GOP nominee was that he was supposed to be brining new voters to the party.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  26. Hungary Border Fence Success, Balkans Route Down To ‘A Trickle’

    Where are the “immigrants” with the ladders and shovels?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  27. Some are still asleep, and others are in bed with the covers pulled up over their heads.

    Yah. I actually did that until 2:00 today. First time I was able to do that for months. It was glorious.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  28. #25, JVW, Jack Nicklaus did announce he would vote for the GOP nominee, and he also recognized that Trump’s success was based on widespread support from traditional GOP voters, and on bringing new voters to his side: working class supporters, Reagan Democrats, union workers, big time financial supporters.

    Trump has already brought in new voters, and it seems like a goodly number of Bernie’s supporters just might refuse to unify under Hillary and be open to Trump’s anti-establishment appeal.

    ropelight (4c7a33)

  29. Here’s an excerpt from The Hill, 5/22/16:

    Trump Overtakes Clinton In Poll Average For First Time

    Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump has overtaken Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton in an average of head-to-head national polls, according to the RealClearPolitics average of polls.

    Trump leads Clinton by 0.2 percentage points, 43.4 percent to 43.2 percent in the average, overtaking the Democratic front-runner for the first time in the average of polls.

    Several recent surveys have shown Trump with an advantage over Clinton.

    An ABC News/Washington Post poll conducted May 16–19 shows a tight race between the two candidates, with Trump holding a 2-point lead over Clinton. A Rasmussen Reports poll conducted May 17–18 had the presumptive GOP nominee up 5 points over Clinton. A recent Fox News poll also showed Trump with a lead.

    Trump has, in recent weeks, started to pivot toward the general election after his two former rivals dropped their presidential bids following the Indiana primary…

    ropelight (4c7a33)

  30. yes, phil’s a pill, but unlike nate bronze, a coinage a friend came up with, he actually employs stats.

    narciso (732bc0)

  31. career death spiral lol

    happyfeet (831175)

  32. but you have to dig 219 words to find it, but it echoes the reuters poll,

    narciso (732bc0)

  33. On VJ Day, the WaPo headline would be “American Killing of Japanese Ended.” On page A15, four grafs in, they wrote, “It appears that the U.S. has won, but we have been unable to get direct confirmation.”

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  34. A Day in the Life

    I read the Post today oh boy
    About a plucky man who took the lead
    And though the Post was rather sad
    Well I just had to read
    Call it a funny need

    Reporter’s name was Danny Balz
    Known far and wide to be a liberal guy
    His stuff was used when nature calls
    Before the Internet
    No one can do that now
    If they do their phone gets wet

    I saw a film last year oh boy
    About Benghazi and the bravest guys
    The story told would make you puke
    it made my blood run cold
    All the lies she told
    I’d love to burn her down

    Woke up, fell out of bed
    Thought about the day ahead
    Made my way downstairs and brewed some joe
    Like it strong and black it really makes me go
    Sat right down and logged right in
    Takes some time with VPN
    Found my way to Drudge and read some stuff
    I read enough and went to Patterico

    I read the Post today oh boy
    Geared toward assh*les in Washington DC
    And most will vote for Hillary
    But you can count me out
    Cuz I’m votin’ Donald Trump even though he is a lour
    I need to burn her down

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  35. it’s like that line in george 111’s diary on july 4, 1776,

    nothing of significance happened today,

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/begrudging-wapo-poll-trump-46-clinton-44/article/2591982

    narciso (732bc0)

  36. Here’s an excerpt from Zeke Miller at Time Magazine 5/22/16:

    Top Republicans Rethinking #NeverTrump

    If you read one thing: Top Republican leaders, operatives, and donors are thinking twice about their #NeverTrump stances after a series of polls showing Republican voters trust Trump over Speaker of the House Paul Ryan. Outright opposition to Trump is fading fast, as most Republican insiders prepare to reluctantly get on board the “Trump Train” to avoid being locked out of the party if he wins, and being blamed for his defeat should he fall.

    Most people don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. Unfortunately, some do.

    ropelight (4c7a33)

  37. they do make it hard, to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/9202.htm

    narciso (732bc0)

  38. 37
    Wasn’t that Louis XVI on the day the Bastille was stormed?

    kishnevi (91d5c6)

  39. narciso @30. Michelle Fields “scuffled with Trump aide”?
    Trump will make better SCOTUS appointments than Hillary too.
    And there will be a wall.
    And deportations.
    And happyfeet will have a guaranteed job for life.
    And ropelight will have a new pair of shiny cavalry boots and everybody will call him Herr Hauptsturmfuhrer.

    nk (dbc370)

  40. no I’m fairly certain it was george 111, he was in his madness stage, a little like late era czars, so he may have not been paying attention,

    narciso (732bc0)

  41. Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.

    And they have nice footwear.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  42. oh man

    i don’t wanna work that long

    happyfeet (831175)

  43. It wouldn’t be hard work. You’d just need to keep the robots oiled. The hard work will be at the border to keep the Mexican robots from climbing over the wall and stealing the jobs of American robots.

    And Michelle Fields “scuffled with Trump aide”.

    nk (dbc370)

  44. Get your trump arm bands now I got mine early.

    trumps arm band (7c2d7c)

  45. replicants from the offworld colonies, where are our flying cars, btw.

    narciso (732bc0)

  46. So my question is given what happened to the Tea Party folks how many Trump voters will admit being Trump voters to some stranger on the phone? I’m thinking The Donald is up by 6, maybe 8.

    f1guyus (5a4596)

  47. R.I.P. Nick Menza, drummer for Megadeth during their prime years

    Icy (ea69c3)

  48. that was a shocker, icy didn’t know he was still touring,

    narciso (732bc0)

  49. TIL. H.L. Mencken, whom everybody likes to quote like he was a 20th century Moses or something, was the founder of Black Mask the premier pulp magazine which featured such luminaries as Dashiell Hammett and Raymond Chandler among others. (He did it to finance his money-losing, effete intellectual, publication.) Now that contribution to culture I can appreciate.

    nk (dbc370)

  50. yes, max xollin’s latest nat heller, is actually set after chicago confidential, and has him running into hammett, mccarthy, betty page, and the rosenbergs, along with the late cia researcher frank olson,

    narciso (732bc0)

  51. Normally they just will say, “Some say that figure is a bit misleading …..”

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  52. which is why they cooked up the wallstreet journal poll and they’ll borsch up a ny times poll, within a week,

    narciso (732bc0)

  53. Nick Menza in his prime:

    https://youtu.be/N6pIoMoUdxw

    — Always trust in YouTube clips from Icy

    Icy (ea69c3)

  54. agreed,

    the poll mentioned oversamples democrats by eight,

    narciso (732bc0)

  55. TIL that dirty dirty mafia money is mo betta than goldy sacks money

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3604081/Donald-Trump-s-hidden-business-dealings-Mafia-boss-Fat-Tony-Report-unearths-legal-papers-GOP-frontrunner-paid-mob-speed-building-Trump-Tower-keeping-unions-quiet.html

    rotten cement what is a appropriate metaphor for this campaign

    how can poop stank and pee stank sling the mud if they are heavy breathing a snorkle built for two?

    thats no plum lolly

    trumpyfeet (c8da08)

  56. 2. No one can accuse the Washington Post of being unbiased, straightforward reporters of the news. They are well in the tank for Hillary Clinton.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 5/22/2016 @ 11:14 am

    It’s not just the Washington Compost, of course. NBC’s leading Clinton throne sniffer and court toady Andrea Mitchell (and there’s a lot of competition for those titles at ABC, CNN, CBS, MSNBC, as well as NBC itself, so that’s quite an accomplishment for Mitchell) said that Jaunita Broderick’s rape claim against Billy Jeff was “discredited and long-denied.” This, of course, after Trump brought it up in an interview with Hannity.

    It’s long-denied by the rapist and his wife, sure. Just like Billy Jeff denied he ever had sex with Monica Lewinsky. But for Andrea Mitchell that denial by the congenital liar she worships means the claim is discredited. But the NBC reporter who actually interviewed Brodderick back in 1999, in the reporter’s own 2014 interview, said no information has come out over the years that remotely would discredit Broderrick’s very believable claim that Billy Jeff raped her. In fact, in a lawsuit I’ve lost track of, his lawyers conceded that Billy Jeff may have had “consensual sex” with Broderick in that Little Rock hotel back in 1978, but Billy Jeff “would never force himself on anyone.”

    Well, I guess if by some miracle Andrea Mitchell wasn’t entirely convinced by the Clintons’ own denial that Jaunita Broderick’s allegation had been discredited, it would seal the deal that the lawyers working for Billy Jeff in his defense repeated their client’s denial. I mean, no actual rapist has ever used the “consensual sex” and/or the “I would never” defenses.

    In an amusing note that shows just how far NBC is in the tank for Hillary!, one of their producers contacted Broderick in the past few months and proposed bringing her in for an interview. Broderick has the email and/or Twitter exchange and showed it to another reporter. Ultimately the NBC producer said they decided against interviewing her, and thus keeping their reporting decidedly one-sided, because, get this, there was “nothing new” to her claim Bill Clinton raped her.

    Unless Billy Jeff raped her after NBC interviewed her in 1999, how the h3ll could there be anything new to Broderick’s allegation that he raped her? It’s a 38 year old rape claim.

    Shifting gears, did y’all see that riot the Sanders supporters threw at the Nevada state Democratic convention. It was a brawl; chairs were thrown literal as opposed to figurative (that’s for Joe Biden, in case he reads this blog, as he doesn’t know the difference) blood was spilled.

    I think the WaCoPo may be engaging in some wishful thinking when they say they expect the Sanders supporters to just quietly fall in line and back Hillary! when the party crowns her the nominee. They sure didn’t in Nevada. In fact, Debbie Wasserman Schultz called a meeting of state party chairs so they’d all be on board and adopt anti-Sanders supporters rules to avoid a repeat. The rules, which no doubt be the same at the national convention, ban any visual or auditory disruption of any sort. Clearly this is aimed solely at the Sanders crowd; you won’t see the Hillary! sycophants getting ejected as the new rules call for when they cheer and applaud their mistress.

    Needless to say, party rules that are aimed at silencing one candidate’s supporters and threaten to eject them if they disrupt the coronation is not a leading indicator of party unity.

    I’ve read a lot of Sanders supporters begging to Bernie to go third party. When BS denounced the violence in Nevada he threw in a “but” that enraged DWS. It also implied that his supporters, and by logical extension BS himself, have other options besides the Democratic party and it’s rigged system. And it really is rigged; he’d win states and Hillary! would get more delegates. Hillary! one Iowa by a series of coin tosses, and defying all odds Hillary! won every single coin toss.

    BS said last summer he wouldn’t make a third party run, but that was before he got publicly screwed in the Democratic-in-the-North-Korean-sense-only party primary. And the thing is, BS actually has a viable option to run third party. The Green Party, which will be on the ballot in at least 20 states and could easily get on the ballot in almost all the others. The time limit has only passed to get on the ballot in a couple of states. So BS is in a different position than any Republican who may have thought or may be thinking of running as a third party candidate. The Republicans don’t actually have a third party organization to turn to. They’d have to start from scratch and build their own organization and run as an independent. BS doesn’t have to do that. I’d be surprised if the Greens haven’t already made overtures to BS. And BS would be a perfect fit.

    But whether he does or doesn’t I don’t see his supporters quietly getting in line for the coronation.

    Steve57 (fa6407)

  57. no it smells like 1968, doing the clean gene role,

    narciso (732bc0)

  58. i am trumped out mr trumpyfeet

    i am tired of telling people that they are voting for ace rothstein and ginger mckenna

    as far as ima concerned there is no presidential election

    ima just gonna give up on the failmerica presidency

    ima just not belieber anymore that there is such a thing as the goldy-sacks butt-snuffling failrepublican party

    ima just gonna get a new toothbrush and shave every day so people don’t get the wrong idea

    and tell irish jokes

    but only to people i like

    how do we know the toothbrush was invented in the south

    because otherwise it would be called a teethbrush

    ok that was not an irish joke

    i owe you one

    nk (dbc370)

  59. Traffic in California. I need a flying car. Think if everyone had a flying car, Caltrans would only need to operate chalk carts to lay out navlines.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  60. Of course a wall would be worthless.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  61. The Metropol Parasol of Seville Spain (jpg)

    Made completely of wood.
    Here it is from the air.

    Centro Ovale Chiasso in Switzerland. (html) Made completely of concrete. Time lapse video of the construction. with attention to the mid town location and how clean the site is from start to finish. Fourteen story neighbors don’t want to have a lot of fuss and clutter, kicking up dust, closing down traffic during the build.

    Or you could go with steel. 480 Queen Street, Brisbane, build six months quicker, with fewer employees.

    The thing about building with concrete is it wouldn’t have saved Mr. Trump time. On the contrary, you’d have to have lots of people setting up forms, tearing them off. Like wiping your butt with a wagon wheel. It would go on and on.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  62. baby steps Mr. nk

    R’s gotta walk before they can run again

    and step one is to vanquish the stank

    i haven’t the foggiest what step two is

    which makes step one all that much more important

    happyfeet (831175)

  63. those who fail to read history don’t have to be frustrated as they watch everyone repeat it

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  64. Here’s an excerpt from Jazz Shaw’s article at Hot Air 5/22/16:

    ABC posts another poll showing Trump leading Clinton among registered voters

    In a recent editorial for Fox News, Wayne Allyn Root tried to explain why Hillary Clinton is sinking faster than the Titanic. It’s still far too early to say whether the Carpathia will arrive in time to pluck Hillary’s supporters out of the frigid waters, but yet another set of early indicators shows that this race is shaping up to be anything but the blowout that Trump’s detractors have been predicting from day one. ABC News and the Washington Post have posted a new set of numbers which are firming up the trend indicated in previous results we saw from Morning Consult and Rasmussen. If Trump was supposed to lose to Clinton in a landslide, nobody told the voters about it.

    ropelight (532202)

  65. Michelle Fields “scuffled with Trump aide”.

    nk (dbc370)

  66. If Trump was supposed to lose to Clinton in a landslide, nobody told the voters about it.

    LOL

    Of course he’ll lose in a landslide. The voters haven’t voted yet, but when they do they aren’t going to trust nuclear weapons to a guy like that. The press haven’t gotten started yet, but it’s coming as soon as they are sure who the candidates are.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  67. Trumpkins lie.

    (I mean Jazz Shaw, in this instance.)

    nk (dbc370)

  68. So, Dustin, you’re counting on establishment media to smear Donald Trump as too unreliable to be Commander-in-Chief. Great, then our new President will be a either an old fool socialist or the woman who turned her back (ignored the 3am phone call) on Americans fighting for their lives in Benghazi.

    Is that really the best thing for the nation?

    ropelight (532202)

  69. Sure thing nk. Anyone who doesn’t bow down to your insane fantasies is lying. Of course!

    ropelight (532202)

  70. The press haven’t gotten started yet, but it’s coming as soon as they are sure who the candidates are.

    Are you siding with the American press, Dustin? Do you really think the press is on our side when they help Hillary? The press is leftist and they always support the leftist candidate. So if they support Hillary and hate Trump which candidate is the leftist and which the more conservative?

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  71. ooh i know this one

    Hillary is the leftist urine bag whereas Mr. The Donald will do the conservative judges on America (he’s making a list he’s checking it twice)

    happyfeet (831175)

  72. You can always spot a #NeverTrumper, they’re the ones wearing their anus as a necklace.

    ropelight (532202)

  73. So, Dustin, you’re counting on establishment media to smear Donald Trump as too unreliable to be Commander-in-Chief. Great, then our new President will be a either an old fool socialist or the woman who turned her back (ignored the 3am phone call) on Americans fighting for their lives in Benghazi.

    Is that really the best thing for the nation?

    ropelight (532202)

    You remember how Trump praised how the administration handled Benghazi? How he praised Hillary’s work as Secretary of State after that event? It’s going to be hard for you to criticize Hillary with a straight face when you’ve been promoting Trump, the guy who donated to Hillary’s presidential campaign.

    And Hillary wasn’t the commander in chief. Obama was. He’s the reason they didn’t fly to the rescue, not her. As corrupt as I believe Hillary to be, she would have handled that day far better than Obama did.

    To answer your question, if the contest is between Hillary and Trump, yes I do believe Hillary is the better of the two. She has far fewer failures than Trump, far fewer examples of moral turpitude, and actually is far more experienced. Oh, she’s a corrupt trainwreck of course. But the sober assessment is that she’s clearly the better candidate.

    Just listen to Trump talk about something. He’s pathologically dishonest, rather than politically cynical. He’s clueless rather than cunning. Our nation’s enemies are salivating at the chance to square off with Trump. I can’t pull the lever for that.

    Enjoy the polls while the GOP, Trump, and half the democratic party are running against Hillary. Pretty soon the media will turn. I’ve predicted for some time that Trump would be crushed once that happens. Hopefully you have the grace to admit I was right all along.

    I don’t want Hillary to be president. It’s Trump and his fan’s fault that the only way to prevent that (and such a good way) was thwarted. Now she’s actually preferable.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  74. yes yes they can’t accessorize for crap

    happyfeet (831175)

  75. The Donald will do the conservative judges on America (he’s making a list he’s checking it twice)

    happyfeet (831175)

    Just like he made that immigration plan that he never actually read or understood. Do you really believe this stuff?

    Trump has no intention of appointing conservative judges, and you don’t even want him to. You want him to appoint pro-choice lefties. This whole pro-trump thing is just a middle finger at the right for you.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  76. You can always spot a #NeverTrumper, they’re the ones wearing their anus as a necklace.

    ropelight

    Wow, sure doesn’t take a lot to get you upset, huh, macho man.

    Don’t worry, when Trump is crushed, I won’t tell you I told you so that often.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  77. gotta love them trump judges whereas pee-stank ones?

    they are no good

    happyfeet (831175)

  78. “All the fools in town are on our side. And ain’t that enough of a majority in any town?” — Paul Manafort talking to the RNC in Florida

    nk (dbc370)

  79. It’s time to turn the ion cannons to the main star destroyer, to use another metaphor.

    narciso (732bc0)

  80. Or it might have been Huckleberry Finn talking to a couple of snake-oil salesmen he met.

    nk (dbc370)

  81. Here’s a poll… Heartless Hillary vs Crooked Hillary: http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/234429/

    Colonel Haiku (00236c)

  82. Otherwise you’re just being Mike castle, and we’re over macho Grande.

    narciso (732bc0)

  83. Good for her NK.

    It’s been well and truly proven that her story was largely accurate, with the inconsistencies amounting to what the witness on her side had reported about how severe the pull down was.

    And it’s also proven that Trump personally lied about what he witnesses, and Lewendowski is a complete snake, saying he never touched or even met her before cameras showed him grabbing her roughly.

    The Trump campaign attracts vile people, and would do vile things if it became the Trump administration. It could have been a government employee tackling a reporter, and a government employee lying about it, if Trump gets his way. He’s been more than clear that he sees violence as the appropriate response to anyone who questions his greatness.

    This isn’t uncommon among those born to privilege. They think their entitlement is a sign of strength, but it’s a sign of insecurity. Rare is the wealthy and privileged kid who appreciates it and treats the rest of us like his equal. Trump would rather cheat veterans or the mother of his kids.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  84. No she wasted out time, and now she’s gone over the hive, like the staffers who never apologized to o’donnell

    narciso (732bc0)

  85. you’re counting on establishment media to smear Donald Trump as too unreliable to be Commander-in-Chief.

    Trump has already done that to himself, with no need for the media to help.
    Have an arms race in East Asia? Expect our military to obey unlawful orders? Think Putin is a great guy? Adhere to the even-handed treatment of Hamas and Israel promoted by the establishment?

    And of course moving beyond that…his tax plan seems to be closer to anything proposed by a Democrat than anything ever proposed by a Republican.

    The wall? Mass deportations of illegals? Repeal Obamacare?
    They are just suggestions and negotiating gambits. Not actual promises.

    At least when Hillary says she will do something, she actually means it as a promise. Trump can’t even get to that level of mendacity.

    kishnevi (294553)

  86. gotta love them trump judges whereas pee-stank ones?

    they are no good

    happyfeet

    No doubt hers will be very poor as well. Not as bad as Trump’s, I imagine. He’s only got his yes-men to turn to for this, and the GOP being co-opted by a democrat like Trump is bad precisely because of matters like confirmation hearings. If this matters to you, Trump is the wrong way to vote. But you do recall how Trump wanted Hillary to be president, yes? He de facto endorsed her ability to appoint judges when he donated to her campaign. You can’t have it both ways. If Hillary’s judgment is terrible on this matter, then Trump’s is too.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  87. She promised to be there at 3 am, but was too blitzed on coronas or something.

    narciso (732bc0)

  88. And of course moving beyond that…his tax plan seems to be closer to anything proposed by a Democrat than anything ever proposed by a Republican.

    Exactly.

    It was one thing when Trump’s fans were telling me to vote for Trump because I want a conservative president who will cut taxes and welfare and be a leader against lefty ideas about the minimum wage, protectionism, and huge government ‘im here to help’ programs.

    Now all those guys, including the ones commenting here on Trump’s behalf, come across as rubes. Boastful that they picked the winning horse in the primary, but also secretly a little salty about how everyone who warned them about the con seems a lot smarter than they were.

    It’s only going to get worse. Trump thinks it will be super clever to ambush Hillary from her left and call her nasty. I shouldn’t need to explain how that will play out.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  89. she *is* nasty and malodorous (from the pee leakage drippings)

    that’s your girl

    happyfeet (831175)

  90. Dustin, thank you for your comments. You are calm, collected, and (in my opinion) quite accurate.

    trumpyfeet (4ea264)

  91. Sure, Dustin, you’ve been right so often lately that no one doubts your superior insight. We lesser mortals stand in awe of your unerring judgment. We await your instruction, grateful and appreciative for the wisdom you deign to dispense to the unwashed.

    ropelight (532202)

  92. “For entirely too long working-class people have been dismissed as not smart enough, their passion rooted in racism, guns, and beer.
    These same people have not had a raise in their standard of living since the Reagan era. In the meantime the wolves of Wall Street have all become billionaires, while none of the Goldman Sachs crooks and others of their ilk who caused the 2008 recession have gone to jail. So it was bound to happen, the awakening of the working-class white stiff who is now even told not to retain the silly old notion that single-sex, multiple-occupancy bathrooms and changing facilities should be entered based on a person’s biological gender as opposed to the one they imagine it to be…”

    http://takimag.com/article/a_stinging_endorsement_taki/print#axzz49PlPADFv

    Colonel Haiku (00236c)

  93. It’s “High-Horse” Monday!

    Colonel Haiku (00236c)

  94. when you ride with red queen, the blood ends up on your lapel,

    http://nypost.com/2016/05/21/the-scandal-in-washington-no-one-is-talking-about/

    as I understand he picked red queen over zaphod in the primary, backed guiliani on the other end of the aisle, and supported maverick in the general, but what’s the name of the horse, that died in yesterday’s laps?

    narciso (732bc0)

  95. You mean at Pimlico on Saturday?
    Pramedya was the filly who broke her leg.
    Homeboykris was the gelding who collapsed after the race.

    kishnevi (93670d)

  96. it was a metaphor, but yes that one,

    narciso (732bc0)

  97. Haiku,

    that was a good link, with a compelling argument until it points to yet another new york values democrat as the solution.

    Trump doesn’t want to make the working stiff richer. He wants to make the things they buy much more expensive. He wants ‘theoretical’ deportation where his illegal and noncitizen workers get easy worker permits without leaving the country, and still work cheap. He’s been cheating the little guy with one scam after another for years now.

    Yes, politicians like Romney and their democrat lite policies have infuriated the base of the GOP because they haven’t cut spending and they haven’t cut programs. And yes, absolutely Trump took advantage of that anger by grabbing a thick plurality of the vote and sneering ‘nerd’ at his challengers. And enough of his rubes didn’t realize that nerd doesn’t mean authentic conservative, and so they rejected a long list of great choices and went with the guy who donated to Hillary’s last presidential run. Fools.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  98. I just realized that I should have registered Democrat so that I could vote for Bernie in the primary. I did register to vote for Cruz, but of course Trump snagged it before my vote in CA would even count.

    A defeat of Hillary here would be wonderful. And maybe change the course of history. *gulp*

    Patricia (5fc097)

  99. I’m thinking that the rest of the Freddie Gray defendants will be seeking out bench trials now if they haven’t already–all of the “peaceful” rioting and looting tends to contaminate jury pools rather thoroughly in favor of conviction.

    M. Scott Eiland (9fd59f)

  100. probably, of course this will just encourage doc brown to blow that circuit breaker,

    narciso (732bc0)

  101. Shoot, the way y’all looking at things, ain’t no victim to even speak on.

    Colonel Haiku (00236c)

  102. “These Social Justice Show Trials will be a much more common thing in the future.

    Plus, eventually everyone will learn their lesson from the riots that will be coming, and we’ll begin convicting the innocent to appease the mobs.”

    – Ace

    Colonel Haiku (00236c)

  103. #103, Patrica, take heart, Bernie’s supporters are suing CA to keep registration open till election day charging ‘irregularities.’

    ropelight (532202)

  104. Somebody buy that BPD officer a beer…….and a fiddle!

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  105. David Cay Johnston on Just What Were Donald Trump’s Ties to the Mob?

    “Why’d Donald do it?” Barrett said when I put the question to him. “Because he saw these mob guys as pathways to money, and Donald is all about money.”

    From a $400 million tax giveaway on his first big project, to getting a casino license, to collecting fees for putting his name on everything from bottled water and buildings to neckties and steaks, Trump’s life has been dedicated to the next big score. Through Cohn, Trump made choices that—gratuitously, it appears—resulted in his first known business dealings with mob-controlled companies and unions, a pattern that continued long after Cohn died.

    What Trump has to say about the reasons for his long, close and wide-ranging dealings with organized crime figures, with the role of mobsters in cheating Trump Tower workers, his dealings with Felix Sater and Trump’s seeming leniency for Weichselbaum, are questions that voters deserve full answers about before casting their ballots.

    We all know what Trump’s next big score is. It’s us, just like Hillary. These are people we need to run away from, not vote for.

    DRJ (15874d)

  106. Vote for Orange Julius Caesar – get Clodius.

    Rick Ballard (97c612)

  107. It’s just that a story by a respected dude, a moral authority lets call them. Let’s say God Himself issued forth the story that Don Trump was mobbed up because he used readymix concrete instead of “industry standard” steel to build his New York high rise, etched in stone by a flame spitting bush.

    There is no way on God’s Green Earth that pouring ready mix twenty stories up is going to be faster, quicker, a time saver, compared to steel. You have to build forms. You have to have shakers. Wait for it to cure. It’s just wrong.
    Your article uses this obviously wrong thing as it’s foundation

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  108. i’m sold

    steel it is then

    happyfeet (831175)

  109. I can tell you with no ego, this is my finest sword.
    If on your journey, you should encounter God…
    God will be cut.

    .

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  110. Trump does come from an iron and steel family. His mother did the ironing and his father did the stealing.

    nk (dbc370)

  111. lmao

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  112. Harry Reid says “not only no, but hell no” to Liz Brown as VP

    “Do you think it’s wise to even consider pulling somebody like a Sherrod Brown (D-OH) or a Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) out of the United States Senate at a time when Democrats are trying to win the body back,” MSNBC’s Joy Ann Reid, no known relation, asked the senator.

    “If we have a Republican governor in any of the states the answer is not only no, but hell no,” Reid replied. “I would do whatever I can and I think most of my Democratic colleagues here would say the same thing.”

    NB: Governors: Charlie Baker (R-MA), John Kasich (R-OH)

    Neo (d1c681)

  113. That don’t leave much. By that metric and going east to west – Jack Reed, Tim Kaine, Bob Casey, Klobuchar or Franken, Cantwell, Murray.

    urbanleftbehind (73a068)

  114. And Michelle Fields “scuffled with Trump aide”.

    nk (dbc370) — 5/22/2016 @ 7:44 pm

    yes yes she scuffled

    and that lewandowski made her go lewandOWWWWWWski!

    it was great to see her all bruised and battery

    we are making america great one bruised, battered woman at a time

    sadfeet (ddead1)

  115. All ye NeverTrumps will eat your words soon. Get on board the Trump train or get run over.

    The Emperor (7c6678)


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