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“National. Hispanic. Christian. Three. Great. Words.”

Filed under: General — Dana @ 11:00 pm

[guest post by Dana]

Donald Trump’s pre-recorded message to the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference:

We’re gonna do a lot of things if I get elected president. We’re gonna bring back jobs and that you understand. The world is taking our jobs and we’ve gotta stop it.

We’re gonna take care of minority unemployment. It’s a huge problem, it’s really unfair to minorities, and we’re going to solve that problem and it’s going to be solved once and for all. We’re going to create good schools, and I mean, in some cases, hopefully, great schools. And really save communities because our communities in many cases are not safe, which is really unfair to Hispanics, and frankly, everybody else.

We’re gonna do massive tax cuts, especially for the middle class, and people that are poor are going to pay nothing. They’re struggling, it’s tough, and under my plan which is filed under you’re going to see it’s nothing. Absolutely nothing… You’re going to start paying taxes after you’re making a lot of money and hopefully that’s going to be soon.

We’re going to stop drugs from pouring into our country. We’re going to strengthen our borders. People are going to come into our country but they’re going to come in through a process. They’ll come in legally but we’re going to stop the drugs and we are going to curb our debt. Our debt is a disaster, we owe right now $19 trillion, it’s gotta stop. By the way, the $19 trillion is going up to $21 trillion very, very soon. So we have to curb our debt and we will do that.

I just want to thank everybody, we’re going to be working very hard. It’s not going to be easy, but I’m going to win and we’re going to take care of everybody…

National. Hispanic. Christian. Three. Great. Words. We’re going to take care of you, we’re going to work with you, you’re going to be very happy, you’re going to like President Trump.

If this is Trump’s first step in an effort to win over Latino voters, he might want want to up his game, because given the latest polling data, it’s going to take more than him treating these voters like small children who need to be taken care of by him as he reads them a story of tired talking points. Who’s your daddy indeed.

The poll found that 62 percent of registered Latino voters would head to the ballot box for Clinton in November, while only 23 percent would support Trump on Election Day.

In terms of job performance, Hispanics said the former secretary of state would represent their views better than Trump (72 percent to 14 percent), making decisions about nuclear weapons (65 percent to 20 percent), nominating the next Supreme Court justice (66 percent to 24 percent) and making the decisions about using military force (60 percent to 29 percent), among other issues.

Clinton leads in every demographic group particularly among Latina women (68 to 17 percent) and among Mexican-Americans (the largest Hispanic group in the nation) 67 to 21 percent.


105 Responses to ““National. Hispanic. Christian. Three. Great. Words.””

  1. Interesting, no mention of the big, beautiful wall.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  2. The good news, though: His positives/negatives are BETTER THAN CLINTON’S! 46% hate Hillary’s guts and only 45% hate Trump with a purple passion.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  3. Interesting, no mention of the big, beautiful wall.

    Maybe it will be a wall from Spinal Tap, if you know what I mean.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  4. We’re all NY’ers here right? we can talk amongst ourselves right?
    We all know Donald Trump is a big-shot real estate developer in NYC and abroad and we all know that to do business in NY you gotta pay bribes to the man and the mob right?
    We all know that Trump supported democrats and repubs both,and we know how they been fucking us these last decades right?
    So as a NY’er I gotta ask: WTF is going on here? We’re seriously going to vote for either of these un-caught criminals?
    WTF? For president? I guess in the post obama age,it doesn’t matter who is in that office any more.

    firefirefire (933c5b)

  5. Who needs a wall when you have a loaded weapon?
    answer- mittens.

    mg (31009b)

  6. Hate her guts and liver.

    Here’s a headline from Mexico. Police, Soldiers, Swarm Acapulco; killings continue.

    Death can strike anywhere in Acapulco these days: A sarong vendor was slain on the beach in January by a gunman who escaped on a Jet Ski. Another man was gunned down while enjoying a beer at a seaside restaurant. In the hillside slums that ring the city, a 15-year-old girl’s body was found chopped into pieces and wrapped in a blanket, her severed head in a bucket nearby with a hand-lettered sign from a drug gang.

    The upsurge in killings has made Acapulco one of Mexico’s most violent places, scaring away what international tourism remained and recently prompting the U.S. government to bar its employees from traveling here for any reason.

    In response, Mexico has lined the city’s coastal boulevard with heavily armed police and soldiers, turning Acapulco into a high-profile test case for a security strategy that the government has used elsewhere: When homicides spike, flood the area with troops.

    Today it’s almost easier to find a truck full of soldiers, a federal policeman or a gaggle of local tourist cops than it is to find a taxi along the “costera,” the seaside boulevard that runs through the hotel zone. Marines patrol the beach, while federal police watch over the breakwaters.

    “This area has been made bulletproof,” Guerrero state prosecutor Xavier Olea said.

    Except it hasn’t. A week after AP reporters visited, gunmen shot to death three young men in broad daylight two blocks away from the restaurant; two of their bullet-ridden bodies lay on the concrete just off the beach, and one bled out on the sand. Two were waiters, and the third a roving coconut oil vendor.

    Rival drug gangs rule the streets of Mexico’s main tourist trap. Mexico responds with martial law.
    The story mentions 30 hitmen, making a living assassinating people.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  7. What is this Trump of which you speak? There is only one candidate for President and I may or may not vote for her in November.

    nk (dbc370)

  8. Of course who can her forget her part in fast and furious, univision makes it so.

    narciso (732bc0)

  9. I also wish someone serious was running against her, but so far all I’ve seen is a couple of fringe candidates — some 74-year old Communist and a 70-year old casino owner who’s married to a Slovenian stripper, both of them with weird hair; and one weirdo from New Mexico whose platform is “Do you like a good pot-party with guns and hookers?”

    nk (dbc370)

  10. Donald Trump says everything is negotiable:

    “Look, everything, honestly, is going to be up .. we’re going to negotiate. I can’t make these decisions myself. We have congress … we have to deal with a lot of people. I mean, you know, I can’t just take executive orders like Obama and .. it’s me, and lots of congressmen and lots of senators and lots of everything. So I would say that certain things will be changed, certain things will be, stay exactly the same.

    Sounds like Jeb, doesn’t he?

    DRJ (15874d)

  11. Trump is a genius, he just made a beachhead invasion into enemy territory ( the 49% group that stupid Romney threw away)using the same tactics the left intellectuals used to get the latino’s vote in the first place – bid daddy.

    moose (e39d7f)

  12. According to your statistics listed above beginning with 62% of registered Latino voters will vote for the democrat Hillary in November. So let’s bring in more Latinos. What we need is more illegal Hispanics given amnesty. Cause it’s racist to want to stop the flood from South America and Mexico. They’re assimilating alright, they’re assimilating real nicely into the democrat party. Romney got 27% Latinos, 31% went for McCain but Algore got 62% and good ole’ “spoke to them in Spanish” Bush got only 44% in 2004. So even the Hispanic A$$-kissing Bush couldn’t get a majority cause they vote democrat by nature! That’s why the democrats want open borders!

    What the statistics in the above article are telling me is that Hispanic citizens, the ones eligible to vote, will vote AGAINST the best interests of America by voting overwhelmingly for the leftist, socialist democrat every time. So why would I want them here?

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  13. I dunno, the Democrats have been doing pretty well for the past 40 or 50 years by treating minorities like small children that need to be taken care of.

    Edoc118 (fe8857)

  14. Hoagie,

    We do need to get control of our borders. Maybe Trump can do it but his own words (policies are just “suggestions” that need to be “negotiated”) suggest he is bluffing, andI doubt he will do anything but amnesty. Trump will say he tried but things didn’t work out, and the GOP and Democrats will gladly agree.

    DRJ (15874d)

  15. Univision chair gives $7 million to help Clinton, stop Trump’s wall

    “Haim Saban is the Chairman of a big media group. He is a liberal mega donor, and has been for several years. He’s a very plugged in donor with the Clinton coalition. Saban and his wife have supported Hillary Clinton to the tune of $7 million dollars. Their giant media investment firm owns Univision. That’s the Spanish language TV network that cancelled plans to air Trump’s Miss U.S.A. pageant after he said he’d build a wall on Mexico’s border and crack down on illegal immigration.”

    happyfeet (831175)

  16. He’s just keeping his promise to the NYT to cut back on yokel bait as he stumbles towards his home on the center left. Baghdad Donnie Isuzu is going to say many, many things in the next few months. Not one of them will be worth more than momentary attention.

    Rick Ballard (97c612)

  17. Mexican Hispanics are interested in jobs. Unfortunately they are given huge amounts of aid immediately upon birthing a citizen and it is really hard to wean a family from dependence on benefits.
    Socially they are against abortion, but make use of the procedure as they see fit.
    In other words they are straddling a divide.
    I think Trump can reach a lot of Mexican Hispanics by hammering away at jobs, jobs, good paying jobs as a ladder to the middle class.

    One thing though… I don’t think the wall is a big deal with Mexicans. Not if it is presented as building good paying jobs means checking the entry of illegal immigrants who cause wages to stay low and taxes (for benefits) to go up. Illegal immigration equals less money in the legal Hispanics pocket.
    Oh, and drop the talk about taxing remittances to Mexico. Even if Trump fully intends to do that to pay for the big wall with a beautiful gate. Taxing remittances is going to cause mom, dad, grandma and grandpa etc back in Mexico to take a cut in standard of living and most Mexican-American voters are not going to vote for a guy who wants to starve their mom or grandma.

    steveg (fed1c9)

  18. he’s trying to save us from pee-stank, and I’m very grateful for that

    beyond that who knows

    not none of you guys sitting at home with your trusty magic 8 balls

    but i tell you what in November if the voters vote to keep that nasty urine-bag out of failmerica’s white house

    Christmas will be right around the corner!

    you know dasher and dancer and donner and blitzen

    i haven’t made any christmas plans i’ll have a new babby cousin by then (not zika babby regular kind)

    happyfeet (831175)

  19. . Trump will say he tried but things didn’t work out, and the GOP and Democrats will gladly agree.

    And Hillary won’t even say she tried. Trump isn’t saying anything new DRJ, when he says he’ll “negotiate”. Everything, and I do mean everything in Washington is a negotiation. The one thing that wasn’t, Obamacare, gives you a glimpse at a Hillary Presidency. If Hillary wins even if the Republicans hold on to the Congress (which I doubt) she will never have to negotiate with anybody. An she won’t even have to say she tried.

    DRJ, Trumps words don’t suggest he’s bluffing, they suggest he’s coming to realize he can’t run a country like he runs a company. They suggest he is maturing politically. He’s still rough but he’s showing signs of being more open. I personally think that’s bad for his brand. He made his bones being an arrogant, vulgar non PC reprobate and he should stay the course and keep throwing bombs at his opponents. Just my opinion.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  20. Let me get this straight, steveg. They leave their “mom or grandma” behind, steal into the United States illegally, take low end jobs away from Americans who sorely need them in this economy, work under the table so as not to pay taxes, also collect welfare and other benefits on the side taken from working American families, and send that money back into the craphole, Mexico, they created. But if we or Trump wants to stop that they’ll vote against him. You do realize you’re just giving people reasons to vote Trump?

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  21. In a sense, Hoagie, we agree. Trump is moving to the GOP establishment’s position, which includes amnesty for illegal imm8grants. How will we stop it if Trump decides he can’t or won’t fight the Washington Cartel, as you acknowledge he is doing?

    We can’t. We might be able to pressure Republicans to stop Hillary and the Democrats. We can’t stop all of Washington when they agree.

    DRJ (15874d)

  22. Hoagie,

    Those %s indicate that there’s been opportunity lost to move that core 3 out of ___ (a number which increases every cycle) of hispanic voters to a 4 or 5. Bush got 3 of 8, McCain got 3 of 9, and Romney got 3 of 11. (the denominator represents the __ out of 100 american voters. The number of old school Cubans and Ricans are relatively finite so yeah, to get to that point you need to convince the Mexicans that the illegal immigrant of 2016 is not them per se but the tattoed primal youth of lower Central america. 4 of 12 is victory, 5 of 12 is icing.

    urbanleftbehind (d3ea16)

  23. I can understand Clinton leading among Hispanic women, as they over-indulge their own children to the point of silliness. But among Hispanic men?!?! I guess that puts the nail in the coffin of so-called “machismo”… maricons!

    Donde esta los cojones?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. We might be able to pressure Republicans to stop Hillary and the Democrats.

    You mean like we did with Obamacare, DRJ?

    If the GOP establishment’s position is pro-amnesty then we already lose regardless of what Trump does. Unless he’s so committed to eliminating illegal immigration, building the wall and zero amnesty that he not only refuses to sign any law like that or he creates such a groundswell of constituents that the Congress has no choice.

    Either way, unless you want Hillary to let in every Mexican who decides he wants in and every moslem who decides for some crazy reason (?) that a country full of white Christians is where he wants to live Trump is our only choice.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  25. urbanleftbehind, I have absolutely no idea what all those numbers mean. I do know that “4 of 12″ is no more victory than 3 of 12. I don’t know what math you use but I was taught 6 of 12 is a tie and 7 of 12 is a victory. You’re using democrat math I believe.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  26. “Trump is moving to the GOP establishment’s position”


    He’s stumbling towards the position held by the majority of the electorate, dropping the yokel bait as he stumbles. He “fights” like a windsock fights the wind.

    Rick Ballard (97c612)

  27. What is this Trump of which you speak? There is only one candidate for President and I may or may not vote for her in November.

    You never know… the WaPo’s poll asked this interesting question: Suppose Romney entered the race?

    The Post-ABC poll tested a hypothetical three-way race that included Trump, Clinton and Mitt Romney, the GOP’s 2012 nominee and one of the most outspoken critics of the New York businessman. Among registered voters, Clinton gets 37 percent, Trump 35 percent and Romney 22 percent. Underscoring the divisions within the GOP ranks, Romney gets a third of Republicans in a three-way race.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  28. What do you think would happen, Kevin M?

    Among registered voters, Clinton gets 37 percent, Trump 35 percent and Romney 22 percent. Underscoring the divisions within the GOP ranks, Romney gets a third of Republicans in a three-way race.

    So Hillary wins! Wonderful. So not only will Mitt Romney have lost the last election to a no good, lying pinko, but he can lose against another no good lying pinko. And this time take Congress down with him. And the Supreme Court. Your point?

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  29. How come moderation? #28.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  30. I see your comment 28, Hoagie.

    I’d vote for Romney. Again.

    DRJ (15874d)

  31. If I have to vote for an establishment candidate, I’d vote for Romney.

    DRJ (15874d)

  32. I’m also happy to write in Cruz’s name.

    DRJ (15874d)

  33. Mitt Romney doesn’t add any value

    creepy dude

    happyfeet (831175)

  34. Hoagie,

    I just released your comment. No idea why it was stuck.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  35. ha ha ha

    let’s compare Mitt Romney and Mr. the Donald

    who is creepy now?

    this is about lollypop bromance

    its all champagne and caviar between the pikachu and Mr. the Donald now

    but the long showers and roses on the pinky fluffy bed wont last

    its clear to anyone who does the analysis

    trumpyfeet (65322a)

  36. I’m with you, DRJ.

    Simon Jester (65322a)

  37. I have centrist friends who regret not voting for Romney last time, won’t vote for Trump and cannot stand Hillary. They say that Romney sounds “remarkably sane.”

    Sanity seems like a selling point this election, when Hillary cannot even make that her issue against Sanders.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  38. So Hillary wins! Wonderful.

    37-35-22 in May means NOTHING about November except this: A Romney bid is not hopeless. He could win; he could throw the election into the House (i.e. he could win). I don’t think ANYONE has ever won the electoral college with 37% of the popular vote. Lincoln had 40% in 1860 and Wilson had 41% in 1912.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  39. Conservative voters cutting off their nose to spite their face, I understand, but centrist Romney refuseniks? Who were they holding their breathe waiting for?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  40. Run mitty run. Best way to eliminate the republican party. Go for it. Please.
    The Cuyahoga Calamity. Once in a lifetime political nirvana.

    mg (31009b)

  41. “creepy dude”

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/22/2016 @ 9:48 am


    Happyfeet… For you, basic goodness, generosity, charity, morals and ethics are like what garlic and sunlight are to a vampire

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  42. Happyfeet… For you, basic goodness, generosity, charity, morals and ethics are like what garlic and sunlight are to a vampire

    i disagree

    happyfeet (831175)

  43. 36.I have centrist friends who regret not voting for Romney last time, won’t vote for Trump and cannot stand Hillary. They say that Romney sounds “remarkably sane.”

    And no doubt you’ll have conservative friends who regret not voting for Trump this time when Hillary flips Obamacare to single payer, raises taxes on “the 1%” making over 65k per year, mandates vacations, parental leave for men and women and allows another 45 million Mexicans to immigrate but this time along with 10 million moslems just achin’ to “breathe free”. Next to what Hillary will do Trump will sound “remarkably sane” too.

    37-35-22 in May means NOTHING about November except this: A Romney bid is not hopeless.

    Yes, Kevin M, 37-35-22 do mean SOMETHING about the dissolution of the Republican Party, the only real opposition to the socialists, for what it’s worth. Voting for Romney would be like taking sour milk out of the frig, smelling it then putting it back hoping it will be better tomorrow. Romney is done, finished, kaput, zero, zilch and a big fat nada. If you don’t think a third party run won’t pull away Republican votes then you don’t know recent history. Hell, a third party run by that douchebag Ron Paul set in motion the events that led to Obama. We need more of that?

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  44. If the only opposition to the Democrats is the GOP establishment and their new man Trump, I don’t see the point.

    DRJ (15874d)

  45. To me, the goal should be showing the GOP establishment that it can’t win with anyone unless it changes, and Trump isn’t changing the GOPe. It is changing him, daily, with every new utterance.

    DRJ (15874d)

  46. BTW Kevin , I hadn’t noticed mg’s comment #39 before typed my #42. You can see mg’s enthusiasm for a Romney run, can’t you? And you realize mg has a “thing” for the Republican Party, and not a good thing ether I rest my case.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  47. harvardtrash ted proved the gop – e or otherwise – can’t win with a sleazy butt-snuffling social con douchebag either

    he proved this emphatically by how him and his goldy sacky were rejected by the voters

    happyfeet (831175)

  48. The “only opposition to the democrats” isn’t Trump, he’s just the best we have now. That will change over time like everything does. That’s the problem with you young fellas, you expect everything instantly, your way or you get all wobbly. The goal is most certainly to change the Republican establishment but I would rather do that with Republicans in power, even if they’re not perfect conservatives, than with democrats in power who will always be perfect socialists.

    Think about how long it took the commies to move the democrat party from “the loyal opposition”, to the Liberal party, to the extreme Leftist party to the new Socialist party. Decades. So don’t be so in a hurry you forget the long game, restoring the Republic. We are not fighting the democrats, we’re fighting their machine composed of the educational, media and entertainment industries plus public sector labor unions. They worked on this triangulation for decades, do you think we’re gonna change that in November? Because regardless of who wins in November your kids will still be programmed by leftists at school and college, Sean Penn and Cher will still be entertaining everybody, Rachael Maddow and Chris Mathews will still be doing the “news” while even ESPN remains PC and the labor unions will still control the bureaucracy and therefore the regulations and punishments emanating therefrom.

    So yeah, Trump will look sane.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  49. Sigh. Mr. Feet, you need to quit being so dishonest.

    Seriously, you truly think that folks don’t know that Trump is involved with all kinds of financial shenanigans and is fundamentally dishonest?

    Your juvenile “goldysacks” business would have more, well, impact if Trump wasn’t also in bed with them.

    And calling Romney weird actually says a great deal about you.

    It’s fine to say you don’t like someone’s policies, and don’t think they should be President. Coolio.

    But you simply cannot do that. You have to go for the weird and vulgar. It’s in your hard drive (heh).

    And that would still be okay if Trump wasn’t a complete and utter freak show as a human being.

    Every bad thing you say about others really does apply to him.

    No, the majority of people who support Trump do so not because of anything he says or has done, but because they hate the establishment which has betrayed them multiple times. They just don’t accept yet that Trump is entangled with that same establishment.

    It’s the same deal with Sanders supporters. It’s like one of those Greek myths were the people involved are cursed to become the things they detest.

    Anyway, it’s not a surprise you like Trump: you both have a lot in common: vulgar obnoxious repetitive know it alls…who really don’t know as much as you think you do. Trump at least has Daddy’s money going for him.

    But it is not possible to get you to comment or debate without hypocrisy and vulgarity (let alone grammar).

    You just have to deposit your little fecal balls into Patterico’s punchbowl daily. It’s who you are.

    Fortunately, most people get it now.

    Simon Jester (c8da08)

  50. You come for the punchbowl, but you stay for the peanuts.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  51. Well, that’s my point, papertiger. Even people who are, um, passionate about Trump can make consistent points. I may not agree with them, but they are sincerely held.

    The other? Sheesh.

    Simon Jester (c8da08)

  52. you’re so mean on Mr. Trump it’s very very noticeable Mr. Jester

    you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself and that old lady makes tinkle on you

    happyfeet (831175)

  53. happy is my buddy, but even if he were carrying on about Trump incontinence, it’s a valuable function.

    It shows the casual passers by the sort of open free flow of thought hospitality afforded by Patterico Pontification.

    Big enough to handle criticism, instead of stamping it out.

    The internet is full of echo chambers.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  54. he proved this emphatically by how him and his goldy sacky were rejected by the voters

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/22/2016 @ 11:08 am

    seriously right

    instead they chose liberaltrash poo-stank with is goldy sacky staff

    they realized they needed to choose the right goldy sacky man

    he’ll provide lots of money to the goldy sacks

    i can’t wait to see all the money for goldy sacks

    yes yes it’ll be great

    sadfeet (ddead1)

  55. You ever try to get a word in edgewise at talking points memo?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  56. i just don’t get why people are such poppers

    we need to stop that pee stank

    get that poo stank in there

    get that goldy sacky lots of money

    it’ll be the same with pee stank, but since she’s a woman we can’t have her

    gotta stop the woman. they need battered. lewandoski showed the way

    all the goldy sack men battery all the women

    it’ll be great yes yes

    sadfeet (ddead1)

  57. Speaking of which, here is what Josh Marshall has to say about the latest poll numbers;

    There are two clear things we can draw from these polls.(insidious liberal website – approach with caution)

    The first is that there’s a very real chance that Donald Trump will be the 45th President of the United States, a prospect which should genuinely scare people in a way that a conventional, even very conservative, Republican would not. The second is that Trump’s move into what is for now something like a dead heat is largely or perhaps entirely do to the fact that Republicans are consolidating around their nominee in advance of Democrats doing the same, something that seemed wildly improbable in March or even April.

    There. That wasn’t so bad.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  58. Papertiger, my objection isn’t due to differences of opinion, but vulgarity, dishonesty, and hypocrisy.

    That’s quite a different thing.

    Simon Jester (c8da08)

  59. i’m a do criticize on you

    specifically i’m a criticize how you wanna do pee-stank on America just cause of you have a prejudice on Mr. Trump

    I abjure this

    pee-stank is evil and smelly and she’s a dire threat to this country

    Mr. Trump in comparison is a good man, a quintessential American, stalwart and true

    he loves this country and he step forward to serve when nobody else would except for the other candidates

    happyfeet (831175)

  60. bosh and pickles

    happyfeet (831175)

  61. i’m a do criticize on you

    happyfeet (831175)

  62. specifically i’m a criticize how you wanna do pee-stank on America just cause of you have a prejudice on Mr. Trump

    happyfeet (831175)

  63. I abjure this Mr. Jester

    pee-stank is evil and smelly and she’s a dire threat to this country

    happyfeet (831175)

  64. Mr. Trump in comparison is a good person, a quintessential American, stalwart and true

    a father

    an employer

    a leader

    a builder of things

    not afraid to get his hands dirty

    he gits it done

    i would be honored to call him your president

    happyfeet (831175)

  65. There is something fundamentally wrong with you. And it has nothing to do with politics.

    Like Trump, you choose to act like the nasty person you are.

    You could make your points with honesty and integrity and without insult or vulgarity.

    But like Trump, you want the right to do whatever you want in other people’s spaces.

    You are a complete and utter hypocrite.

    Simon Jester (c8da08)

  66. you a pooper

    happyfeet (831175)

  67. Oh, on the contrary. You have pooped consistently on people discussed here (and I would bet serious coin you are far too cowardly to act this way in public), have shifting and bizarre standards, and now are claiming that Trump will “save” us when according to your own standards, he is little different from HRC.

    Again, your standards.

    Just a lazy hypocrite who likes to talk smack.

    And I like saying these things, considering how often you type your nonsense on Patterico’s site. The difference between us is that besides slapping you around for being a dishonest fool of a troll, I also write things about other issues in a clear, polite, and nonvulgar fashion.

    You could try it, but again…you choose to be a jerk.

    Simon Jester (c8da08)

  68. red red wine stay close to me don’t let me be alone with Mr. Jester

    he calls me names and it’s sunday

    happyfeet (831175)

  69. BTW Kevin , I hadn’t noticed mg’s comment #39 before typed my #42. You can see mg’s enthusiasm for a Romney run, can’t you? And you realize mg has a “thing” for the Republican Party, and not a good thing ether I rest my case.

    Yes, but there’s an argument that mg isn’t going to come out of his bunker to vote anyway.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  70. Simon, you should have seen him before he was potty trained.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  71. lmao

    mg (31009b)

  72. As or destroying the GOP, by having the previous nominee run against the current nominee as an independent, I rather doubt it. Perhaps you missed where the 2000 Dem VP nominee spoke at the 2008 GOP Convention. Or worse, where a two-tern GOP President ran a third-party campaign against his own-hand-picked successor. Yes, this allowed a Democrat to win, but after that the GOP won with 60% of the vote. It’s about the DIRECTION of the party, and Trump would take the GOP in the Pat Buchanan socialist-populist-nativist direction, which is anathema to a lot of folks. I’d opt for scorched earth.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  73. With the schism in the party, I don’t think the GOP nominee was ever going to win this year.

    Thanks, Sniveling Coward!

    Patterico (2e2ac2)

  74. oh thanks for helping with the moderation stuff but i navigated around it to figure out what the naughty phrase was

    i hadn’t realized that one was on the list

    makes it really hard to talk about Mr. Trump but i think i understand

    happyfeet (831175)

  75. Voting republican is always the lesser of two evils.
    And I will cast my vote accordingly.
    Fresh Strawberries taste pretty good in the fox hole!!

    mg (31009b)

  76. you a pooper

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/22/2016 @ 2:16 pm

    Hon, we are all poopers. Everybody poops. Even you.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  77. I would venture candy the liar would win more states than mitty the dunce.

    mg (31009b)

  78. You can never say mitt never strapped it on.

    “dog on car”

    mg (31009b)

  79. “Cojones” as a scatological term has little relevance to the voters you need to turn. Use “huevos” and maybe there’s something else for the caribean and South American Latinos.

    Hoagie, those fractions e.g. 4 of 12 refer to share of Hispanic voters. No one says that Trump has to flip 180 regress but he needs to scratch his way back to McCain numbers. And frankly this belittlement of anything Mexican or Mexican extraction by the likes of you
    turns potential converts like me off ever and ever further.

    urbanleftbehind (86a7ac)

  80. Josh Marshall – “…there’s a very real chance Trump might be the 45th President. Oh no! ]:0[”

    Patterico – “There’s no way Trump will be the 45th President. Oh no! ]:0[”


    papertiger (c2d6da)

  81. I voted Cruz sincerely in my states primary. Romney in the general 2012 and Santorum in the 2012 primary. McCain in the 2008 primary, but admittedly I let Palin + sepugtenarian scare me into voting Obama in 2008.

    urbanleftbehind (86a7ac)

  82. Mr. Trump loves mexicans

    hello urban person

    taco bowl?


    i love peruvians this place is my go to place now for when i need food delivered

    everything from there so far has been a win

    happyfeet (831175)

  83. Si, happyfeet.

    mg (31009b)

  84. Ah yes, Peru, from the side of the Andes where the bust has more importance than the bum.

    urbanleftbehind (86a7ac)

  85. And frankly this belittlement of anything Mexican or Mexican extraction by the likes of you turns potential converts like me off ever and ever further.

    First off, urbanleftbehind, exactly how does my desire to secure our border and not allow an invasion of tens of millions of illegal Mexicans belittle them? I don’t want an invasion of tens of millions of Germans either, am I belittling Germans? Secondly, if a “potential convert” such as yourself is turned off by my desire to determine who enters my country, how healthy they are, what their intentions are and what benefit they bring to America then I suggest you’d “feel” more comfortable with leftists who cannot even think those things because they are more interested in fairness then the security of my family or of the Steinle family.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  86. BTW, urbanleftbehind, I don’t know what you meant by the phrase “by the likes of you” referring to me but it sounds steeped in some sort of bigotry. You should also know I voted for that Hispanic fellow, Cruz. So I must hate Hispanics.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  87. it’s crass but to the point, I’m sure there are greek,french, german equivalents for ‘equipment’ of the sort,
    meanwhile, the fellow, de tocqueville warned us of

    narciso (732bc0)

  88. Here’s an excerpt from Daniel Garza at NewsBusters 5/22/16:

    Univision Promotes ‘Make America Mexico Again’

    Univision’s May 19, 2016 edition of its late-night national news show Edición Nocturna featured a completely favorable story about drug legalization activist Jerónimo Saldaña, the creator and vendor of baseball caps that are stamped with the slogan “Make America Mexico Again.”

    Saldaña says he was inspired to start making and selling the hats after first seeing one on the Latino Rebels Facebook page and because, as he puts it, he just flat-out doesn’t like Trump. Surprising nobody, in its report Univision included no critical or opposing views against the hat.

    Not only did Univision give Saldaña their platform to promote the hat, they also showed their viewers how to go about purchasing one. They touted that Saldaña has already generated $14,000 off selling the hats and, following the free promotion on Univision, more sales are likely underway…

    ropelight (4c7a33)

  89. You mean something like this ropelight? Another wonderful deserving Mexican yute just wanting to be free in a land he’s just dying to assimilate in, right? Throw’em out!

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  90. Hoagie

    I was talking about Mexican-American voters who Trump is trying to persuade to vote for him.
    Which was the context of the original post and also the context of Trump fishing for votes in Hispanic waters.

    Legal Mexican Americans who have become naturalized citizens vote send money back to Mexico too.

    So once again, in context of Trump fishing for Hispanic votes, my advice to him would be to never ever talk about taxing remittances, even if he fully intends to.
    The largest Hispanic voting group is of Mexican origin, so if Trump want to lose nearly ALL of the Mexican Hispanics go ahead and talk about remittances, and don’t waste time trying to woo them with jobs, less crime more Jesus, whatever.

    steveg (fed1c9)

  91. trump is closer to pete wilson as a parallel, he was for amnesty for a time, and then came the critical moment with prop 187, a much less draconian move, that lawfare shot down,

    narciso (732bc0)

  92. Based on other polls, it seems like more and more voters want to be treated like small children and be given everything by the government.

    Amazed_476 (5b5799)

  93. The Biden version;

    National. Hispanic. Christian. Four. Great. Words.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  94. You can (and should) tax remittances, but if say the To_Mexico rate is, say 20%, also do a do India and China rate of 10% and a perfunctory any nation at 3%. That way a Mexican American, while seeing initially as unfair, might not mind if “Los ‘indus y los chinitos tambien esta pagando una porcentaje”. Actually, a persuadable to the Trump train Mexican American usually isnt so in tune with the fine points of wire-transferring and calling cards, come to think of it.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  95. So a Chinese man goes to the Wells Fargo to send $100.00 to his family inn China. The Wells Fargo person tells him, “Your family will get 665 yuan”. A month later, the same thing, but this time the Wells Fargo person tells him, “Your family will get 649 yuan”. The Chinese man says: “Wait a minute. Last month it was 665 yuan. How come it’s 649 now?” The Wells Fargo person says, “Fluctuations”. And the Chinese man says, “Hey, fluck you round eyes, too”.

    nk (dbc370)

  96. Well, I’d be happy to make it “fluck-u-ate-a-bull” based on robustness of legal ID presented or lack therof.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  97. Yeah, how come the money-laundering laws that sent Hastert to prison don’t apply to the currency exchanges that send, I read, something like $24 billion in “remittances” to Mexico?

    nk (dbc370)

  98. poor Mr. Hastert he was just trying to cover up how he made sexy with them young boys

    now people are being all like this

    happyfeet (831175)

  99. Never pay blackmail. Go to the police and set up a sting. And whenever somebody says “Barbra Streisand effect”, kick him below the belt. Anybody. If he’s within reach, of course, that goes without saying.

    nk (dbc370)

  100. Mr. Trump loves mexicans

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/22/2016 @ 3:37 pm

    yes yes he love them

    he loves hiring those illegals

    giving dem failamerica jobs to legals and illegals

    he says he wants a wall

    but that wall is a wall of mexicans coming in

    it’ll be great all the mexicans

    making mexico great again

    sadfeet (ddead1)

  101. Trump?

    Three. Great. Words.:


    DCSCA (a343d5)

  102. nk

    You could always do like Mr. Getty did when he got his grandsons ear in the mail and:

    1. Negotiate the ransom down to the point where it is tax deductible
    2. Have your son sign a note to pay said sum back with 4% interest

    Personally, I would have tried to have the kidnappers killed… what good is a billion dollars if you can’t find a decent soldier of fortune

    steveg (fed1c9)

  103. Getty possibly would have had the “connections” for a hit-man. Most people don’t. They “put out the word” and get an undercover agent with a wire if they’re lucky. We see these cases in the news all the time. My office defended one. If they’re not lucky, they get someone who takes their money and kills them.

    But I was talking about being blackmailed with embarrassing stuff. “Pay me x amount or your wife gets these pictures. If you go to the police, the whole world will see them.” That second is the Barbra Streisand effect that some so-called First Amendment advocates think is just peachy keen.

    nk (dbc370)

  104. i love peruvians this place is my go to place now for when i need food delivered

    everything from there so far has been a win

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/22/2016 @ 3:37 pm

    Very good, Happyfeet. I’m glad the food does it for you.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  105. we’re talking ceviche, or like the riff the horde did about zimmerman,

    narciso (732bc0)

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