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Shock: GOP Establishment Falling in Line

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:50 am

Politico (cached link; no links for bullies):

The Never Trump moment is over.

While a small group of Republicans has wrung its hands raw over the choice between the GOP’s nominee and Hillary Clinton, the party’s firmament – social and intellectual conservatives, the lobbyist and donor class, powerful operatives and outside groups – is increasingly getting in line behind Donald Trump.

Never mind that many of them complain about his bombastic and unpredictable political style. The thawing has slowly but surely begun – and it’s visible everywhere — from mega-donors like Foster Friess rallying Republican governors to Trump, to Mitt Romney’s allies agreeing to raise money for him, to leaders of the Never Trump movement conceding their cause is lost.

As I said on May 4: “In coming weeks, my decision to leave the Republican party will be confirmed, as the majority of Republicans ‘rally around’ an obvious con man who would be the ruin of limited government and constitutionalism.”

It’s happening quickly.

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160 Responses to “Shock: GOP Establishment Falling in Line”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. And they would have fallen in line with Cruz also.

    They eat at the Govt trough. They need the person who puts food in the bucket.


    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  3. I’m super-excited about Mr. Trump’s campaign – that pee-stanky old woman’s future is looking less and less bright every day, and I just couldn’t be more pleased

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  4. They eat at the Govt trough. They need the person who puts food in the bucket.


    Which is why it’s so important that Trump loses no matter who wins. We should not reward this kind of behavior.

    nk (dbc370)

  5. Reading this story elsewhere, I would have skipped linking it just because having won, there is no need to rub Cruz supporters nose in it.

    That’s the sort of decent good people I am.

    Wallowing in the past, nursing resentments, and grudges, why would you want to do that?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  6. The Republican Party is getting to be tightly controlled and centralized, like the Democratic Party has been for about 35 years.

    It is control of campaign money that does this.

    This does not make for good government. For a terrible examaple of what tight control does, see the New York State legislature.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  7. Trump ain’t won nuffin’ yet, and we can still keep him from winning and the fat pigs who are supporting him look forward to some lean years.

    Don’t give up! Don’t fall in line!

    nk (dbc370)

  8. Josey Wales: Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. ‘Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That’s just the way it is.

    You guys like Clint Eastwood, don’t you?

    nk (dbc370)

  9. Wallowing in the past, nursing resentments, and grudges, why would you want to do that?

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/20/2016 @ 8:48 am

    Who said anything about all that? You may have noticed, there is a core group here led by our esteemed host who will not vote Trump. We will not support him with cash, volunteer work, or our vote. We have accepted that Trump is the presumptive nominee for the GOP. However, we are not obligated to help you put him in office. You can have that flavor of childish socialism all you like. I’ve joined the resistance.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  10. Yes, nk, we know “his words are true.”

    that’s a line from the movie, for them’s that ain’t done seen it.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  11. You guys like Clint Eastwood, don’t you?

    nk (dbc370) — 5/20/2016 @ 9:06 am

    One of my favorite lines from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly wasn’t even uttered by Eastwood. It was Tuco (Eli Wallach) who said “If you have to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk”

    Bill H (971e5f)

  12. yes, the green eggs and ham caucus,

    narciso (732bc0)

  13. #4 That sir is circular reasoning. Punish Trump for GOP doing what it was going to do anyway for any candidate? Would you have punished Ted Cruz if the GOP fell in line for him?

    Oh brotha….

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  14. Sad to see that, narciso, really
    It’s like being 3/4 into the Body Snatchers,
    The idea that there is even enough of a remnant to rally is fading

    Still hoping and praying that Trump implodes before the nation does

    MD in Philly (d85301)

  15. More a figure eight, I’d say, RKS. The reason Trump is up there is because these guys were such twatwaffles to begin with. All the more reason for him to go down if they go down with him. Or didn’t you mean that stuff about government troughs and buckets?

    nk (dbc370)

  16. Hopefully Cruz or Lee or whoever is next has learned a lesson,
    do not be afraid to show righteous anger and indignation where it is due,
    channel it for good
    not appealing simply to our baser natures

    MD in Philly (d85301)

  17. # NK, I agree Trump is the fruit of GOP Mendacity but so is Ted Cruz.

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  18. If Lee could get all of the liberal nimby’s to go along, heck, even 1/3 of them, it would be over for the Dems

    MD in Philly (d85301)

  19. You want the GOP grow a spine, get a pair, stop twaffles twaffling (it just looked dirty. Had to contract.)?

    The quickest way to do that is to have the big dog out in front being the target of wraiths ire. That frees the little dogs in back to yip louder.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  20. Why do you say that, rks? at least Cruz called them out as liars and made enemies of the right people.
    He watched Princess Bride too many times and never saw Josey Wales
    Who knew??

    Eastwood for president and Cruz for VP

    MD in Philly (d85301)

  21. 16 … All the more reason for him to go down if they go down with him.

    Why would they go down with him? They will just say (correctly) that Trump wasn’t their choice and place their bets on the next election.

    James B. Shearer (90bda2)

  22. Lamar Alexander understands. “We don’t want your windmills,” he said.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  23. Battlestar Trump versus the Hillary collective. (YouTube)

    “This is the Admiral. Trump has seen a lot of history. Gone through a lot of battles. This will be his last.

    Action stations.”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  24. yes yes windmills are bird-mutilating eyesores

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  25. Ha ha ha, You and the valiant 100. So a few pundits and web sight owners, a couple of discredited web magazines (National review) decide to quit the Republican Party. Ha ha ha Don’t let the door hit you in the as$ on the way out.

    This election is about scorched earth, guy’s like me knew going in that to support Trump meant the destruction of not only Republicans but anything remotely resembling conservatism. You had your chance, conservatives acted like a bunch of ninnies for the last 16-20 years. Buying and selling the middle class for their own personal gain, Living off the Billionaire’s Boy’s Club. Running first McCain then Romney, supporting first Beohner then Ryan, refusing absolutely refusing to stop Obama. How was it possible that the Republican’s put up 17 losers? Ted Cruz for God’s sake, Ha ha ha.

    But you’ve heard it all, and you know what went wrong. Now take your ball and go home Please,please do all you can to discredit Trump, vote for Hillary or stay home, it makes no difference. Scorched Earth my friend and you Patterico deserve it more than most.

    tonynoboloney (280edb)

  26. I’m super-excited about Mr. Trump’s campaign – that pee-stanky old woman’s future is looking less and less bright every day, and I just couldn’t be more pleased

    happyfeet (a037ad) — 5/20/2016 @ 8:16 am

    yes yes very exciting times indeed

    pee-stanky old woman’s future doesn’t look great compared to poo-stanky old man’s future

    of course she’ll still win because of lame media but that’s okay

    at least poo-stank will be tearing down the establishment goldy sackies as they support poo-stank and his goldy sacks

    its amazing how poo-stank gets the support of the establishment we want destroyed

    its almost like they know he is the establishment and not like that harvard guy who actually would have destroyed them

    interesting times indeed

    sadfeet (ddead1)

  27. perhaps, but the last two blanc mange tomato cans, gave up the match before the 9th inning,

    narciso (732bc0)

  28. Toneynobaloney
    I believe you are a bit confused,
    Conservatives were not behind McCain or Romney

    MD in Philly (d85301)

  29. I like tonynoboloney. He gets it. No making excuses for Trump; no GOP uber alles; no better than Hillary twatwaffling.

    nk (dbc370)

  30. nk,
    I’m not GOP uber alles,
    I am not willing to concede yet that we need to support Trump over Hillary,
    But said commenter is accusing some of us of things we never did
    just looking for clarity

    MD in Philly (d85301)

  31. The problem with simply wanting to burn it all down or bring on the revolution,
    what one expects is rarely what one gets

    MD in Philly (d85301)

  32. Oh, we cross-posted, MD. None of that was directed at you. But “scorched earth”! I love it! That’s all you leave behind for an advancing enemy. It was a sub-plot in War and Peace, if you’ll recall.

    nk (dbc370)

  33. they’ve been burning the scrubbrush with mind arson@ robin, for forty fifty years now, we’re just looking for a firebreak,

    narciso (732bc0)

  34. Cross-posted again. It’s already burned down. These GOP apparatchiks who are falling in line are trying to rebuild with the ashes.

    nk (dbc370)

  35. Luckily windfarms self immolate if you don’t grease them regularly.
    Turn off the grease I say.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  36. MD in Philly,

    All I said is Trump is a by product of GOP mendacity much like Cruz 2016 success is.

    I have ZERO issue with Cruz calling political people liars. I’d prefer is too out an automatic rifle and gun them down in cold blood however.

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  37. Trump = zeit·geist ˈtsītˌɡīst,ˈzītˌɡīst/noun … the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time.

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  38. A Mitt Romney independent run would beat both these posers. Most people don’t care for insane crooked blowhards.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  39. Alternatively, Kevin, if the GOP apparatchiks were to take a “scorched earth” approach, “Ok, you got the nomination, now let’s see you win the election with your 12 million Trumpkins and your own money”, those would be people to be proud of.

    nk (dbc370)

  40. Candy/Mittens /2016

    mg (31009b)

  41. Dear sir,

    Please consider this before you commit an egregious error. To say that I don’t understand your emotions after all these years of reading you would be an understatement. I am providing you with a link from the esteemed Gerard Van Der Leun at AmericanDigest. Please consider it with an open mind before your emotions hand the election to Hillary. Thank you for your consideration.

    Nicaini Houston (474a42)

  42. In the end, if the anti-Trump “revolt” has traction, it will guarantee a true fascist government by the Democrats. You should practice your “Sieg”s as well.

    cedarhill (9798de)

  43. Cheney and Perry is suspect were tests to see what the reaction would be since they really don’t have much–politically to lose. Perry’s embrace of Texas secession seems to expose him as a follower rather than a leader, he is probably finished.

    I suspect we won’t see too many profiles in courage–amongst the profiteers of punditry. Unless Trump loses in a spectacular fashion, then we will see the crawl back. It’s pretty disgusting already.

    Danube River Guide (76b104)

  44. perry followed dr. evil and chip barbour, and crashed his ship on the rocks,

    narciso (732bc0)

  45. I can’t believe in hindsight, I was an enthusiastic Perry fan. Hell I am learning points and details about the fence that I have never been exposed to before at reddit and I am wondering why I compromised, or accepted the feasibility of that so readily.

    Danube River Guide (76b104)

  46. OK … nk (almost anywhere in *this* thread) …

    Can you explain to me how working for the election of former-Secretary Clinton or Bernie Sanders will *lessen* the folk you describe in “They eat at the Govt trough. They need the person who puts food in the bucket.” ?

    To put it mildly, “This does *not* compute !” !

    Your attitude in this thread seems to be one of “I hate these damn weeds ! I’m going to show them ! I will give them the *perfect* amount of water and fertiliser to ensure that they spread luxuriantly !” …

    Or is it more “I’ll show that iceberg how to *properly sink this Titanic ship ! I’ll open all the sea-cocks, too !” … the problem with such an attitude is well-expressed here …

    ““Nothing like scuttling a ship in mid-ocean if you want to be attended to. The only awkward thing is, you are apt to go down with it,” said Fullerton. “”

    How the felgercarb does *that* attitude help anyone ?

    Alastor (2e7f9f)

  47. Danube River Guide,

    You believe Reddit is a good source of facts and information about a border fence?

    DRJ (15874d)

  48. Also, I asked this on another thread but I don’t think you saw it. Have you ever been to Texas?

    DRJ (15874d)

  49. Alastor,

    Perhaps more socialism will hasten the time it takes the government to run out of taxpayer’s money.

    DRJ (15874d)

  50. In other words, it may shorten the time to provoke a real conservative reaction. After all, it only took 8 years of Obama’s socialism to produce Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  51. This whole election is being molded and shaped into a false dichotomy. The idea is that we will have to choose between Trump of Clinton—although certain die-hards refuse to count Sanders out—no serious observers expect to watch him clinch the Democratic primary. Is it really going to be between these two?

    There’s still time to change that. I’m not talking about a brokered convention by the way. What I’m saying is that it’s possible either one of both of these geezers might just croak!

    Send in the clowns against Trump. There’s bound to be some kind of townhall debate. If so pack it with jesters. Ask Trump questions like…Mr. Miller, if you became President, would you name Donald Trump as your press secretary… and so on.

    Jack (ff1ca8)

  52. After all, it only took 8 years of Obama’s socialism to produce Trump.

    Once again in your mad rush to see everything from a possible Nazi state to predators lurking in the girls room attributed to Trump you seem to ignore it was the lack of conservative Republican balls that created Trump. “Obama’s socialism” had nothing to do with it. That created Bernie.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  53. I see the lunatic fringe is still kicking a dead horse. Consider the level of madness necessary to compose comments #s 39 and 40. These 2 ninnies are certifiable.

    ropelight (38127d)

  54. mitt romney is too pervy i think he probably *likes* tranny schlongs like he’s an aficionado of them whereas other people find them disturbing and or frightening

    definitely too risky this year

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  55. There’s agood “Goldberg File” today on this subject by Jonah Goldberg. It is sent via e-mail. I think it goes online too, but may not be there yet.


    whom do I have a problem with? Well, here is a short field guide.

    The Benighted. These are mostly decent people who, from early on, really thought Donald Trump to be a man well-suited for the job of president. As a generalization I don’t think these people are evil or bigoted. Basically, I just think they’ve been conned by a conman.

    The Alt-righters. The less said about these creatures, the better. Mostly composed of Twitter and comment-section trolls, this coprophagic phylum is convinced Trump is the tip of the spear of some new white-nationalist takeover of the party and the country. They think it’s hilarious to bait Trump’s critics with Klan-vintage racism and Nazi-style anti-Semitism. Probably my biggest complaint about the benighted is the degree to which they make apologies for the bigots or don’t care that the bigots speak in their name.

    The False Priests. As you can only be disappointed in your friends, this is the group I am most disappointed in: public intellectuals, pundits, and politicians who have a long record of claiming to be purer-than-thou on conservative litmus-tests but who suddenly started defenestrating their principles to get onboard the Trump train.

    The Fake Moderates. These are the folks who’ve been bleating and whining for years that the conservatism of National Review, Ted Cruz, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, et al. was too harsh, too mean, and too rhetorically strident. They not only urged the GOP to be more inclusive and nice, they raised inclusivity and niceness to a kind of ideological litmus test all its own. And now they enthusiastically support a guy who mocks the disabled, smears immigrants, and wants to ban Muslims.

    The Establishment of Whores. Very closely related to the Fake Moderates but still a distinct subspecies, these are the quislings, opportunists, lobbyists, remoras, and mercenaries who don’t in fact believe in anything at all beyond their own self-interest. They were against Trump when it was in their interests, and now they are for him for the same reason.

    The Closet #NeverTrumpers. Washington (and New York!) is full of pundits, journalists, TV “strategists,” and politicians who tell my friends and me they agree with the #NeverTrumpers 100 percent. But put a microphone in their face and suddenly they overflow with a strange new respect for our orange-hued national savior. I find this sort of thing disgusting and always have.

    The Resigned. This is the group of nominally pro-Trump people about whom I have mixed emotions and the most sympathy. I’ve tried to keep names out of this, but this category requires concrete examples. On the night of the Indiana primary, Ted Cruz said he would support “the nominee.” He never said Trump’s name. Personally, I couldn’t support a man who said the things Trump did about my wife and father, never mind the rest of it. But I’m also not a politician. Cruz pledged to support the nominee and I’m not much inclined to vilify him if he offers some grudging, pro-forma support. The same goes for Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Carly Fiorina, and others who’ve said or hinted that they’d still support the nominee, albeit reluctantly and with grave reservations.

    But there’s a difference between checking a box and selling your soul. Which brings me to . . .

    Perry’s Folly

    My Dark Confession

    And so here I will confess the truth to you.

    During a panel Q&A, a passenger on the cruise made a strong case for voting Trump. He ably argued that we know Hillary will be terrible, while we can only suspect Trump will be. Trump will probably do some things conservatives will like — Supreme Court appointments, etc. — while we know for a fact Hillary will not.

    And here’s what I said: I agree. If the election were a perfect tie, and the vote fell to me and me alone, I’d probably vote for none other than Donald Trump for precisely these reasons.

    The questioner declared victory, and many in the audience applauded.

    And then I said, “But I will never vote for Donald Trump.”

    My vote won’t decide the election. And I am not bound by hypotheticals like that. As I told the gentleman, I can come up with an endless number of hypothetical choices between two horrible options….

    …I keep saying this, but no one seems to believe me: My vote doesn’t matter. What matters, at least to me, is that I can sleep with a clear conscience.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  56. there is a quixotic element to those calculations,

    narciso (732bc0)

  57. TO all the “You will elect Hillary” crowd: I sincerely wish you all to F off. If there was ever a time for an independent run, it is when the two parties have UTTERLY FAILED to produce acceptable choices. You say that Hillary is terrible, and I agree. But so is Trump, and possibly more so — his failings are more than just ideological.

    My loyalty is to country, not to party. I hear people say “My party right or wrong” and I just cringe. That’s how the Democrats went from the party of Cleveland to the Party of FDR, and how the GOP with from Lincoln to James Blaine (who thankfully lost).

    NO. Rather an obvious opponent who cannot possibly be re-elected than a wolf in GOP clothing.

    But a candidate who would attract the center of both parties and the 40% who belong to neither (and who cannot stand either Clinton or Trump)? It would seem like the winner, not the spoiler.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  58. I think that any candidate that happyfeet LIKES is “too pervy”, but that’s just my own opinion, backed by the current example.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  59. Alastor, do not feel too bad. Nobody understands me.

    nk (dbc370)

  60. oh I think I have some inkling, there is a touch of leonidas, in your calculations,

    narciso (732bc0)

  61. Establishment money is not falling in line.

    The pols may pat Badgerhead from a distance but they are actually going to be putting maximum effort into protecting incumbents. I expect Johnson will be receiving quite a bit more money than he had anticipated as well. The Libertarian Party has a decent shot at cracking 10% this year.

    Rick Ballard (97c612)

  62. my favorite candidates right now are Donald Trump and the hooch what’s gonna beat the socks off Meghan’s coward daddy

    i love her

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  63. #55 no no no

    its clear to anyone who does the analysis that you like you all thing

    suck on that lollipop butt snuffler

    there are special theatres for you in frisco

    Just sayin

    trumpyfeet (5f32f5)

  64. 16,500 U.S. Border Patrol Agents Endorse Donald Trump

    The National Border Patrol Council is the official organization representing our nation’s Border Patrol Agents. We represent 16,500 agents who selflessly serve this country in an environment where our own political leaders try to keep us from doing our jobs.

    The NBPC has had a longstanding practice of not endorsing presidential candidates in the primaries. We will not, however, shy away from voicing our opinions as it pertains to border security and the men and women of the United States Border Patrol. As such, we are breaking with our past practice and giving our first-ever endorsement in a presidential primary. We think it is that important: if we do not secure our borders, American communities will continue to suffer at the hands of gangs, cartels and violent criminals preying on the innocent. The lives and security of the American people are at stake, and the National Border Patrol Council will not sit on the sidelines.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  65. NRA endorses Donald Trump. (YouTube)

    He even referenced Clinton’s advantage with women voters, arguing that Clinton is telling “every woman that she doesn’t have the right to defend herself” with a firearm.

    “That is so unfair and that is so egregious and I’ll tell you what, my poll numbers with women are starting to go up,” he said.

    Trump also accused Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, of being hypocritical for having armed Secret Service agents around them while calling for stricter gun control measures, and called on the Clintons to “let their bodyguards immediately disarm.”

    Full NRA acceptance speech at link.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  66. you can tell from all these endorsements that Mr. Trump is the best choice out of them all

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  67. Kevin, you’ve been dead wrong and obstinately obnoxious about it for months. Your ability to see beyond blind prejudice and focus on what’s best for the nation is no where in evidence. You’re a stupid, arrogant, ego driven fool.

    ropelight (38127d)

  68. Myself, I’ve given up trying to think like a Trumpkin. I’m seeing my dentist for my semi-annual checkup and cleaning on Monday.

    nk (dbc370)

  69. gotta love them dentists

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  70. I’ll never forget the first time I met my dentist. He said, “I see that you have not been to a dentist for a while”. I said, “Why do you say that, Doctor? Are my teeth that bad?” He said, “No, I saw all that cash in your pocket”.

    nk (dbc370)

  71. Uncle is at the NRA convention, and he is reporting on the Trump endorsement. Click on over and then click on his banner for all the posts. Here’s a couple:

    “At the NRA convention

    Chris Cox just announced the NRA’s official endorsement of Donald Trump. The collective groans around me were audible. There may have been a few “are you kidding me”s.”

    “Quote of the day

    Donald Trump on the NRA convention: There are so many rifles. So many guns. Even I get a little concerned.”

    nk (dbc370)

  72. Trump turning to Team Romney for governing advice

    today the man Romney tapped four years ago to draw up his blueprint for a new administration is in close talks with the Trump campaign, guiding the presumptive GOP nominee’s transition chief, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, and other top officials on planning for actual governing should Trump win in November.

    “They’ve had contact with me, and I’m doing whatever I can to pass along my experience,” said Mike Leavitt, the former Utah governor, top Romney adviser and evangelist for how to run an effective presidential transition (even if you lose the election).

    And Ed said,

    If Romney’s advisor gets to run the operation that picks personnel and frames policy, that certainly would work better to shape the next Republican administration than a meaningless and divisive bid that splits the party and hands the election to Hillary Clinton. That assumes that Trump can win at all, of course, but at least GOP unity makes that a possibility — and perhaps gives Romney some way to shape the outcome of it.


    Making friends all over.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  73. There are so many rifles. So many guns. Even I get a little concerned.

    He was talking about his boys and their gun collection. Good one though.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  74. The Philly PBS station has a show on tonight “Extraordinary Journey” about the “massive” immigration of “over 4 million Italians” to America between 1890 and 1930. Wow, 4 million in 40 years. But that is correctly called immigration. What we have is an invasion. Funny thing, they assimilated and nobody need to “press one for English”.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  75. I own 31 rifles and pistols and I’m still in the market for a good deal. Or a really beautiful collectable.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  76. that would have been just short of 3& of the 1930 population, you see how the Lodge Act came about under those circumstances,

    narciso (732bc0)

  77. I have a bleg for you, Hoagie. I have an aunt with severe COPD. She is now on home oxygen full-time and is looking for a portable oxygen concentrator so she can walk around. Can you recommend one? At between four and five pounds? Insurance/Medicare approval is irrelevant; it will be self-pay.

    nk (dbc370)

  78. Kevin, you’ve been dead wrong and obstinately obnoxious about it for months. Your ability to see beyond blind prejudice and focus on what’s best for the nation is no where in evidence. You’re a stupid, arrogant, ego driven fool.

    If anything I have been kind to people like you, who would not know decency if it walked up and kissed them.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  79. I would have applied for the Vanguard, but I get the distinct impression that even the most reluctant of #NeverHillary Trump “supporters” are not welcome. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    As I’ll keep saying, it comes down to two lunatic egomaniacal liars likely to cause wars. One will probably nominate decent (on average) federal judges. The other has a proven track record of causing wars even WITHOUT trying to and will nominate a bunch of 35-year-old Sotomayors.

    Mitch (bfd5cd)

  80. i will wade out
    till my thighs are steeped in burning flowers
    I will take the Trump in my mouth
    and leap into the ripe air
    with closed eyes
    to dash against pee-stank

    e. e. cummingsfeet (bfd5cd)

  81. What is best for the nation from a human point of view is that Trump implodes and we can get someone who will be a good president.

    MD in Philly (05ec18)

  82. Trump i love you
    because you would rather black the boots of
    success than enquire whose soul dangles from his
    watch-chain which would be embarrassing for both

    parties and because you
    unflinchingly make fun of pee-stank

    e. e. cummingsfeet (bfd5cd)

  83. MD:

    Or dies of natural causes. (God forgive me, but that’s the ONLY way the Trumpanzees would grudgingly get behind a sane other nominee.)

    Mitch (bfd5cd)

  84. Mitch, I think you are wrong and would qualify.
    I have been preoccupied with family medical concerns and praying for someone to replace Trump.

    MD in Philly (05ec18)

  85. beautiful work Mr. cummingsfeet

    happyfeet (831175)

  86. Ropelight woke up full of hatey hate. Again.

    JD (a9bf1a)

  87. this has gotten very silly,

    throat warbler mangrove (732bc0)

  88. what if you’re misgendering me
    DiBlasio could fine you

    e. e. cummingsfeet (bfd5cd)

  89. #83, Mitch, Trump has more GOP Primary votes than anyone in the history of the GOP. Yet, you look down your nose and call his supporters Trumpanzees. You can’t really believe that sort of elementary schoolyard taunt will bring converts to your side, you’re not that stupid, blinded by hatred, yes, obviously, but not stupid.

    So, why do you engage in an effort designed to fail. Habit? Perhaps. Or just plain self-destructiveness?

    ropelight (38127d)

  90. nk, the portable concentrators are battery powered and depending on her need flow they really aren’t worth it. The best I’ve seen is an Invacare Xpo2, about 6 lbs and gives 1-5 LPM pulse. But at 5 LPH it only lasts about 2 hours which is actually less than a small tank. The battery carry jobs just have not gone through their “time of technological improvement” yet. Has she explored transplant or lung reduction surgery yet? After my final blood counts on 6/15 and one last “Six minute walk” I’ll be placed on the transplant list sometime in June. June’s lucky for me, it’s also my wife’s name.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  91. For your consideration (wiki):

    Lincoln, Republican: Popular vote 1,865,908; electoral college 180 (18 states, NJ-4)
    Breckinridge, Southern Democrat: Popular vote 848,019; electoral college 72 (11 states)
    Bell, Constitutional Union : Popular vote 590,901; electoral votes 38 (3 states)
    Douglas, Democrat (Northern Democrat): Popular vote 1,380,202; electoral college 12, (Mo and NJ-3)
    Smith, Liberty (Union): zip
    Sam Houston, People’s Party: dropped out in August.

    The story of this year’s Presidential election may not be in its final chapters.

    BobStewartatHome (404986)

  92. Ropelight,

    I don’t consider all Trump supporters “Trumpanzees.” To clarify, those are the subset of Trump supporters who do nothing but call dissenters names and make up all manner of excuses for Trump’s lies, boorish behavior and repeated changes of positions.

    Mitch (bfd5cd)

  93. (Ropelight) Also, I give little credit to Trump for a record number of votes. There are a record number of voters, and, much more importantly, the race is lasting a lot longer. In recent past elections, the GOP contest was already long over (as a practical matter) by late March or so. So of course turnout is higher at later primaries, and of course WHOEVER is the leader is going to get “a record number of votes.” You should know better.

    Mitch (bfd5cd)

  94. 81.What is best for the nation from a human point of view is that Trump implodes and we can get someone who will be a good president.

    What would be good for the nation is for him to pick a really, really great VP candidate. Then Trump implodes and we get a good President. After the election. And the inauguration. Just to see how many of those commie bastards who swore they’d leave the country actually do. And if I were Trump I’d call them out in my inauguration speech for the lying, coward, millionaire hypocrites they are.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  95. teh poster named mitch
    and his gay alter ego
    no more surprises

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  96. with 4 Ms and a silent Q

    Raymond Luxury Yacht (bfd5cd)

  97. Mitch, there are a “record number of votes” and therefore a record number of voters because Trump was in this race. He brought them, like it or not. Whether or not you want to credit him. I know it just kills some of you to say just one nice word about Trump.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  98. I’m not implying happyfeet is gay (I don’t actually know the person is male), but I’m joking in a juvenile way about the hero-worship that I perceive there.

    Mitch (bfd5cd)

  99. Here’s a nice word about Trump. Here’s several.

    He’s a lying, adulterous, narcissistic warmonger-chickenhawk who’s likely to pick less-bad judges than Hillary, so I’ll vote for him if the race is close in California.

    That’s as good as it’s gonna get.

    And you’re wrong, of course, about the turnout, but you don’t care, worshiper.

    Mitch (bfd5cd)

  100. he’s christian slater, who is a figment of the lead character’s imagination in mr. robot,

    narciso (732bc0)

  101. Mr. Trump is so good his vp is gonna be really special like a unicorn or a disney princess or maybe he’ll even have several different ones and just rotate them to keep if fresh and razzy-ma-tazzy.

    happyfeet (831175)

  102. to keep *it* fresh i mean

    happyfeet (831175)

  103. Thank you, Hoagie. She is in her 80s, so her chances for a lung transplant are not good. But, believe it or not, I understood what you said, and I will tell my cousins that her better option is a small tank. Actually, I’ll just show them your entire comment.

    Again, all my best wishes for the success of your procedure.

    nk (dbc370)

  104. i’m not implying you a pooper

    happyfeet (831175)

  105. happyfeet’s not gay. happyfeet is posttranscissexual with a cute dash of quirky for effect.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  106. You all have a pleasant overnight, be ye Trumpanzees, #NeverHillarys or #NeverTrumps.

    Mitch (bfd5cd)

  107. I need to clarify as well. There are people who reluctantly support Trump as their party’s choice. Oh, well, I disagree, but they are reasonable people. BUt there are people who have been total cultists this whole campaign, willing to say anything whatsoever, repeat any lie, make any charge, if they thought it would move the cult forward. When the cult leader changed his tune, theirs changed too, and they denied, as he did, what had been said before.

    Perfect little INGSOC Outer Party members who love Big Brother.

    These are the people I will never respect.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  108. Ropelight – did you really lecture someone on their civility and how it will not bring converts? Really?!

    JD (a9bf1a)

  109. happyfeet’s not gay. happyfeet is posttranscissexual with a cute dash of quirky for effect.

    And certainly not “pervy.”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  110. S.E. Cuppservative/Mitty-boy/2016

    mg (31009b)

  111. nk, how may liters per minute is she on? Must it be continuous or does she do pulse. At home I’m on a continuous 4 LPM but I use a 5 LPM pulse when I travel since it’s really no where as effective as continuous. When I exercise I use 6 LPM. At 80 they usually won’t consider a transplant. But she can still be as active (as an 80 yo can be) with the proper oxygen, exercise and meds. Like a nebulizer for duo-nebs of albuterol and some Symbicort inhalers or such. Thanks for your thoughts and I wish your aunt luck and a good life.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  112. i can’t even handle mitt romney he’s so different than what I think of as a good person

    happyfeet (831175)

  113. The best VP choice for Trump, at first glance, would be Kasich. A governor, and a Washington veteran, and not “too far” anywhere, left, right, up or down, and, most of all, OHIO! Actually, he’d be the best VP choice for anybody. What was that quip about Bush Sr.? “He looks like every woman’s second husband.” Well, that’s a positive in a VP.

    nk (dbc370)

  114. kasich looks like he was in a bad fire and got reconstructed out of butt-skin

    happyfeet (831175)

  115. Thank you again, Hoagie. I’ll be talking to them this weekend.

    nk (dbc370)

  116. It is extraordinary that Happyfeet thinks Mitt Freakin Romney is a bad person, and thinks Trump is great. I didn’t agree much with Romney, but the idea he isn’t a good person is extraordinarily silly, even for hf.

    JD (a9bf1a)

  117. this is more fun then a whole tub of pickles and cream cheese

    good job girls you made a meaningful addition to the things

    happyfeet (831175)

  118. well I think he’s been foolish with his shadowpac, and trying to replay reid’s attacks against trump, how much did it cost to move gingrich and santorum, 100 million last time,

    narciso (732bc0)

  119. dark mitt looked out upon a relatively peaceful if not particularly prosperous failmerica

    “ohhhh yassss,” he purred. “I’m a defile this motha purple.”

    happyfeet (831175)

  120. someone is impossible to parody

    because you cannot tell if he’s parodying

    or who he’s parodying

    or what he’s parodying

    but shirley he cannot be sirius

    maybe antares

    or yuggoth

    nk (dbc370)

  121. but you know what

    he’s not saying that cruz is not a natural born citizen

    or that cruz’s father helped oswald kill jfk

    but he’ll nonetheless vote for cruz if trump does not get the nomination

    like someone else we know

    that counts for something i think

    nk (dbc370)

  122. yes yes i got my eye on cruzifornia

    he can still pull this baby out

    happyfeet (831175)

  123. Hoagie, the weekend came earlier than I thought. Here’s the email I got back:

    “She has a tank. She wants something light for 2.5 hours to go out. She uses low flow so it should last 2.5 hours. Can you ask him where he buys his tanks?”

    Actually, so we don’t keep bothering you, can you recommend a vendor for both the concentrator and the tanks? I suspect they meant both.

    nk (dbc370)

  124. So, if Trump has a record number of votes,
    and while there was still opposition he had less than 50% of the total votes,
    then a record number of people also voted against Trump.
    To go along with his historically high dislike rating.

    The thing I have to say good about Trump is that he is not Clinton.
    Other than that he is a crude megalomaniac who doesn’t keep his promises in business or in his private life and if America had half a brain would be no where near the presidency.
    But then if America had half a brain Obama nor HRC would have been anywhere near the presidency either.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  125. Can I join your Constitution group? Do they acknowledge the Originalist/Vattel meaning of “Natural Born Citizen” over there? Yeah, I didn’t think so. I withdraw my request to join your group. I suspect it will become a self-serving circle jerk over there.

    jcurtis (9e7baa)

  126. i had a dream i was your hero

    happyfeet (831175)

  127. Can I join your Constitution group? Do they acknowledge the Originalist/Vattel meaning of “Natural Born Citizen” over there? Yeah, I didn’t think so. I withdraw my request to join your group. I suspect it will become a self-serving circle jerk over there.

    I guess you’ll never know.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  128. It is extraordinary that Happyfeet thinks Mitt Freakin Romney is a bad person, and thinks Trump is great. I didn’t agree much with Romney, but the idea he isn’t a good person is extraordinarily silly, even for hf.

    Since I know you have observed happyfeet’s level of silliness here lately, I can only surmise that your having met him personally is affecting your view of what level of silliness he is capable of. Which…makes sense. I only wish that he would display here a little more of what you saw in him when you met him.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  129. The only third party candidate we need is Bernie Sanders.

    Come on and feel the Bern.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  130. oh please you’re the silly pot calling the silly kettle silly

    let’s be clear i’m a media professional and i’m much less media-infested than any of you

    i have no social media accounts

    i have no cable

    i don’t even pay for my own cell phone

    i have only mi gente

    and we have to take care of them

    think think

    what do we know

    pee-stank will delimit their already delimited prospects – and in a linearly progressive fashion congruent with what food stamp has done on them

    Mr. Trump will ?

    he has vitality at least

    he has vigor

    he has vanity

    and he has the insensible balls to say he wants to make this risible brokedick country great again

    (pee-stank NEVER says this)

    you my friend

    you’re adrift in a maelstrom of empty aesthetics

    do you have anyone in your life who is marginal


    if they lost their job that would be it for them

    you’re from Texas like me so I know you do

    find that person in your life and focus

    and don’t let that diseased old woman pee on them to where they drown in a gouting torrent of old woman pee

    the only way out is through

    and Mr. Trump at least

    he’s recognizably american

    he’s a grand old flag

    that mao-pant-suited herpes slag?

    not so much

    happyfeet (831175)

  131. Pretty sure I linked Hot Air post where Romney’s guy is working with the Trump team.

    Did you scroll past it?

    Romney’s team – straight out of Utah.

    That’s called firming up the coalition.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  132. Happy is a top, not a bottom. He hates Romney cuz Romney comes off as a smug jerk from a wealthy family. Might be ex Mormon too which adds to the pathological hatred of religious folks. IMHO ..

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  133. yeah i might be ex-mormon i might also be spider-man

    happyfeet (831175)

  134. Was it a Baptist spider that bit you?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  135. A Mitt Romney independent run would beat both these posers. Most people don’t care for insane crooked blowhards.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/20/2016 @ 11:27 am

    Not so sure, Kevin. To go along with all of his other failings, he proved decisively he won’t fight. He’s personally a good man, but he isn’t a President. His son remarking after the ’12 cycle that he didn’t really want to be President anyway pretty much put the stake through any aspirations he had.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  136. Trump called for Hillary’s armed guard to disarm. They he called for her to renounce teleprompters.
    And for her to name some of the “living document” would be overlords she would appoint to the court.

    It was a good speech.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  137. Excuse me. Then he called for her to renounce teleprompters.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  138. You should practice your “Sieg”s as well.

    cedarhill (9798de) — 5/20/2016 @ 12:13 pm

    Not a problem, Cedarhill. I happen to be pretty good in spoken German.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  139. The concept is silly, anyway. If it’s a Democrat dictatorship what we’ll need to know how to say is “Tovarich”.

    nk (dbc370)

  140. yes yes i got my eye on cruzifornia

    he can still pull this baby out

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/20/2016 @ 6:44 pm

    I’m voting Cruz in the primary. But the baby you mention I’m afraid will be a breech-birth, if not stillborn.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  141. if you suck the food stamp teat in failmerica?

    you are filthy trash

    just own it already

    happyfeet (831175)

  142. When nobody is looking. Ballot booth. Just between you and God. Don’t tell a soul. Secret.

    You’re going to pull the lever for Trump.

    Look me in the eye, Henry, and tell me that you don’t want to be a part of it.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  143. Bill H. I think you mean spoken AUSTRIAN??? Heh.

    GUS (30b6bd)

  144. 137. “Trump called for Hillary’s armed guard to disarm. They he called for her to renounce teleprompters.”


    “For his part, Trump, alternated between his usual word-soup and reading from a teleprompter:

    He touched on many pro-gun issues, including a promise to get rid of gun-free zones. He also noted that his sons are hunters and gun owners, adding that they own so many, ‘even I get a bit concerned.’”

    (Said no true gun advocate, ever.) “


    There is literally no level of Trump doubletalk or blatant hypocrisy that the Trumpanzees will admit to, or even see. Principles mean nothing, they don’t acknowledge that such things exist. This is the Bernie Madoff level of commitment necessary to get to the end of their rainbow.

    Luke Stywalker (4d90ad)

  145. TDS is easy to diagnose, the deranged most often resort to name calling because they have nothing else except false claims of so-called principles to justify their venomous accusations. Hatred is the only principle that motivates them, it hides their shame. For they know full well what they do.

    ropelight (1bda83)

  146. It’s only virtual hatred.
    Like the virtual wall.
    And the virtual deportations.
    And the virtual money for vets.
    And the virtual self-funding.
    And the virtual “Republican”.

    nk (dbc370)

  147. Heh. And you actually believe that, don’t you, ropelight?

    DRJ (15874d)

  148. I think you have shown us a mirror into your own soul.

    DRJ (15874d)

  149. All the Trumpkins put us down,
    When we say that Trump’s a clown.
    It’s a disgrace to our nation,
    Cause Trump spells degeneration.

    Degeneration, Trumpkins!

    nk (dbc370)

  150. Another TDS trait is the tendency to run in packs. Association with fellow travelers reinforces the phony principles narrative and supplies group camouflage for what otherwise would be a shamefully embarrassing exposure as a petty, deranged, sour grapes, stompy-foot, bitter malcontent.

    ropelight (1bda83)

  151. Like a Trump rally?

    DRJ (15874d)

  152. Trumpkins graze in herds behind their lead steer.

    nk (dbc370)

  153. He touched on many pro-gun issues, including a promise to get rid of gun-free zones.

    Gun-free zones and concealed carry laws – which he has also vowed to repeal – are state and local laws (other than the unconstitutional Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990).

    I suppose Trump could try to find some creative methods of coercing state and local governments like Obama, but promising to get rid of gun-free zones is still absurd. The question is whether Trump even knows that he would not have any direct authority over those laws as President.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  154. Gun-free zones and concealed carry laws are state and local laws and I do recall reading “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall only be infringed by state and local laws”. So they’re okay. Just like when cities make owning guns illegal or so hard as to be de facto illegal. At least it’s not the feds denying us our God given rights! Perhaps next, when cities are overrun by moslems they can establish Islam as the City Religion and banish Christian churches. They too would be state and local laws. State and local laws my a$$, God’s laws are not negotiable by jurisdiction. Only lawyers think it’s okay to phuk the citizens at a local level. As long as it’s not the feds taking away your rights it’s all quite legal, you know.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  155. City of Chicago v. MacDonald. The Second is binding on the states through the Fourteenth. But Trump is going to make it illegal for his casinos to forbid patrons from coming in armed? Really? Other businesses? Airports? Courthouses? Elementary schools? He’s just shooting his mouth off for the benefit of the Bubbas.

    nk (dbc370)

  156. Gerald A (7c7ffb) — 5/21/2016 @ 9:02 am

    I suppose Trump could try to find some creative methods of coercing state and local governments like Obama, but promising to get rid of gun-free zones is still absurd. The question is whether Trump even knows that he would not have any direct authority over those laws as President. </blockquote. Two days after making such a promise for the first time, he has to know that, just like he has to know there's no easy way, within a president's power, to force Mexico to pay for a wall on the U.S. border with Mexico, something he makes sure not to drop from his public statements, even if he doesn't promote it so much as before.

    (And Ted Cruz had to know he couldn't abolish the IRS, and that it might not make sense, either; and no politician knows how to create economic growth – except Bill and Hillary Clinton, who want to keep it a trade secret.

    Hint: Monetary policy, which a presiodent has control over after a year or tw, iif they know what they are doing.)

    Sammy Finkelman (0730f4)

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