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5/18/2016

Bill “In Charge of Revitalizing the Economy” Clinton Earned $5 Million for Speeches Last Year

Filed under: General,Stark Choice — Patterico @ 7:46 am

Politico (cached link; no links for bullies):

Bill Clinton raked in $5 million in paid speeches last year, according to his wife’s most recent personal financial disclosure released Tuesday night, including $2.7 million after Hillary Clinton announced her presidential run.

Four days after the former secretary of state announced online last April that she would mount a second bid for the White House, Bill Clinton was paid $300,000 for a speech in front of the Oracle Corporation in Rancho Mirage, California, the disclosure shows. Over the past year, he has also given speeches to groups such as the Wyndham Hotel Group in Las Vegas; the private equity firm Apollo Management Holdings; UBS Wealth Management; and the Texas China Business Council, among other groups.

The Clintons’ lucrative speech-giving side gigs have emerged as major issues for the Democratic front-runner on the campaign trail. Hillary Clinton has refused to release transcripts of her speeches in front of Wall Street firms like Goldman Sachs.

This is wonderful, in light of Hillary’s recent claim that that she will put Bill “in charge of revitalizing the economy.”

If you’re a company operating in the U.S., time may be running short for you to get in on that cash-for-favors deal, Join Oracle and the other Bubba funders. Remember, a few million in Bill Clinton’s pocket today could mean hundreds of millions, or even billions, in profits tomorrow. Don’t wait. Act now!

P.S. Meanwhile, even the corrupt Hillary Clinton will be releasing her tax returns. Trump has promised he will not do so before the election — meaning he is obviously hiding something even worse than Clinton’s corruption.

Voters have a clear and stark choice this November: the corruption you can see, vs. the corruption you know is there but is being hidden from you.

I’ll leave you with this fun piece: The Five Trump Supporters You Meet on the Internet. Let’s see how many show up in the comments below!

147 Responses to “Bill “In Charge of Revitalizing the Economy” Clinton Earned $5 Million for Speeches Last Year”

  1. Teaser:

    The Tough Guy

    You’ll most likely encounter this one on Twitter where he’s berating “cuckservatives” for not boarding the Trump Train and riding it all the way to Crazytown. If you suggest that Trump has been less than truthful or has made a mistake, the Tough Guy will pepper you with personal attacks and question your manhood (if you’re a man) because it takes tremendous courage to anonymously post ad hominem to a Twitter account with eight followers—7 of which are sock puppets of the same guy. The 8th is probably a porn bot that he thinks is an actual woman who is really into him because of his newly Trumpified virility. Tough Guys always make it personal. They will attack a person’s looks, weight, hairline, or anything else but the person’s argument against Trump. Naturally they gravitate toward the candidate who has run his campaign in much the same way. They will dig up personal information on their opponents and use it against them to bully them into not speaking against Trump in much the same way Trump uses incessant threats of lawsuits against his detractors. Bullies tend to like bullies.

    All five are on target.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. We don’t have a golddigger. I don’t think we have a party drone, either, as much as much as we have people who need a leader, any leader, to follow. No worries, I ain’t starting nothing by naming names.

    nk (dbc370)

  3. Maybe if Bill were to just recommend putting everyone on the Clinton Foundation payroll, we’d all become rich!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  4. We don’t have a gold digger. They exist, but not here.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  5. There are plenty of party drones, nk. And others that concern troll as party drones.

    JD (7fd277)

  6. We don’t have a gold digger. They exist, but not here.

    Patterico (86c8ed) — 5/18/2016 @ 8:06 am

    Although you do have one that’s close. No money to be made, but most the other traits are there.

    Maybe if Bill were to just recommend putting everyone on the Clinton Foundation payroll, we’d all become rich!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 5/18/2016 @ 8:01 am

    I was talking to a couple last night at dinner, and we were having a polite conversation over politics when it finally dawned on me- Bill Clinton as First Lady. Bill Clinton in a dress. I almost keeled over from laughter.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  7. I guess I’m most nearly an “arsonist”, per the five choices available.

    I think the “Chesterton’s Fence” thing is not quite applicable. I quite understand why the major parties have erected their particular barriers to my (and others’) participation. I do understand when they were put in, and what purposes they serve. And I do want them removed. I also understand that taking them down affords pathways for people like Ross Perot, Jesse Ventura, Arnold Schwartznegger, Al Franken, and others with more celebrity than qualifications to follow Trump into positions of power.

    Oh, wait ….

    Pouncer (d90bef)

  8. These descriptions are surprisingly accurate. Drudge, Breitbart.com, and Fox News are golddiggers, as are most of the websites that Trump supporters link.

    DRJ (15874d)

  9. Bill H
    Maybe that is why we are getting this push for transvestite restrooms.

    kishnevi (91d5c6)

  10. #6 Bill H,

    If Bill’s the First Lady, then what would Huma’s title be? (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  11. The Five Trump Haters You Meet On The Internet.

    1. The Principled Guy. He believes his moral superiority exemplifies his principled stand against the Republican candidate even if it means a communist democrat will rules the country and pick Supreme Court justices. Cause…principles.

    2.The Stuck On Stupid. He believes that the only important thing is conservative values no matter how many times the conservatives are defeated. Failing to realize the majority of the country is no longer conservative he refuses to compromise for a half-loaf of political bread preferring to become completely irrelevant

    3. The Transpolitial Drone. He is part of the new politic which owes no party allegiance but rather moves among parties like a Jenner among sexes. He always is searching for that perfect party but never finds it.

    4. The Sh!t Slinger. Opposite the Gold Digger, the Sh!t Slinger lives to throw sh!t all over Trump and his supporters simply because the much, much better, nicer, smarter, more principled, more conservative Cruz was disrespected by the stupid voters in favor of a boorish lout and ex-democrat New York liberal.

    5. The Optimist. Though crapped on by the Republican Party for years the Optimist believes if he just wishes hard enough and clicks the heels of his ruby slippers he’ll be magically transported back to an America where immigration was controlled, schools educated rather than indoctrinated, men went to men’s rest rooms and the mayor of New York wouldn’t dare suggest a boycott of a private company because of their Christian beliefs. He’s probably the last of the best of us because in a nation slowly going so mad it can’t determine people’s sex he still believes that somehow with only about 20% of us still believing in Constitutional principles America can be saved. Bully for him.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  12. Worth Zero to $5m when they left the WH , now worth 200m without any inheritance,
    Does anyone really believe there was no corruption, bribery, etc.

    Joe - From Texas (debac0)

  13. I quite understand why the major parties have erected their particular barriers to my (and others’) participation. I do understand when they were put in, and what purposes they serve. And I do want them removed. I also understand that taking them down affords pathways for people like Ross Perot, Jesse Ventura, Arnold Schwartznegger, Al Franken, and others with more celebrity than qualifications to follow Trump into positions of power.

    Pouncer (d90bef) — 5/18/2016 @ 8:34 am

    I don’t know what you’re referring to. Other than “closed” primaries or caucuses, which I don’t have a problem with, I’m not aware of any barriers to (voter) participation.

    The sole barrier for someone who wants to run generally consists of getting enough signatures on a petition AFAIK.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  14. That is a major mistake the Dowager Demoness Clinton has made. Her hubby is yesterday’s news – mostly bad – and this highlights the fact that she really doesn’t have any new ideas or anything of substance to offer.

    Colonel Haiku (6047c1)

  15. Death to teh Dowager Demoness Hillary Clinton!!!

    Colonel Haiku (6047c1)

  16. Hoagie, I can’t just start pretending I was never for socialized medicine or amnesty. I just can’t do it. We’re going to get ’em either way, but I can’t vote for it.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  17. Rev H
    6. The Turned Off Voter
    Believes Trump is so unfit for office, due to his amoral impulsive narcissism, that even the duo of communist grifters running against him, are preferable. Although he won’t ever vote for the communist grifters. Long live the LP!

    Persuade me Trump is not unfit for office, and I will vote for him. Sisyphean task, I suppose.

    kishnevi (294553)

  18. Here’s my solution to the Demoness problem…

    https://youtu.be/LnPrxbYARJg

    Colonel Haiku (6047c1)

  19. If Donald Trump would nominate Ted Cruz to the Supreme Court I would vote for him.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  20. Happily.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  21. Gerald A
    There are also stiff filing fees, in tandem or as alternative to signature collecting….and the number of signatures required are often relatively high, and require money to organize collecting them.

    kishnevi (91d5c6)

  22. Steve57
    Would you trust his promise to do that?

    kishnevi (294553)

  23. #`9

    If Donald Trump would nominate Ted Cruz to the Supreme Court I would vote for him.

    Steve57 (eca648) — 5/18/2016 @ 9:05 am

    I would agree with that suggestion –

    On the otherhand, as Ginsburg and Scalia were buds, If Scalia could not get Ginsburg, Stevens, Kagan, or Sotomayer to respect the constitution, do you think Cruz would have any chance (not withstanding that Stevens is no longer on the court-

    Joe - From Texas (debac0)

  24. I wouldn’t expect you to start pretending about anything, Steve57. I don’t. I don’t pretend college can or should be free. I don’t pretend men are women or vice versa. I don’t pretend two men constitute a marriage. I don’t pretend to believe there is any good reason for this country to permit any immigration until the current crop all speak English, have jobs and are off welfare. That’s because I don’t pretend America is one giant soup kitchen for the world.

    I also don’t pretend that we conservatives have any political leverage whatsoever in today’s America. We have allowed the evil left to control all sources of information including education, entertainment and the media for decades and that will never be undone. America’s time is past. We went from Pax Americana to Post-America in a generation. Just as the democrat party became the socialist party even running one for president, just as Bruce became Caitlyn and may become Bruce again, just as your grandchildren have learned American culture is no better than Somalian culture, America has lost it’s roots, it’s heritage and it’s Exceptionalism and, like ones virginity, will never get it back.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  25. It would be asking a lot, kishnevi. Especially with his fanbois excusing every broken promise because I wasn’t nice to him.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  26. I guess I’m a party drone, then.

    I keep coming back to judges. Hillary’s will be 100% guaranteed young leftists. With Trump there’s going to be a range: Souter types (lefties sold as righties) to be sure, squishes like Kennedy, and with luck some Alitos.

    Mitch (341ca0)

  27. In Illinois, you have to file in each County Clerk’s office if you want to run as an independent or write-in and you (the candidate) must sign the application. So if I write in Cruz, and he is not on the list of write-ins, it will be ignored.

    nk (dbc370)

  28. 24. …We went from Pax Americana to Post-America in a generation.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193) — 5/18/2016 @ 9:17 am

    I would suggest, sir, it took longer than one generation. But I quibble.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  29. well cruz was a good advocate before the court, so it’s entirely possible, ken starr was also, but it wasn’t conducive to electoral politics,

    narciso (732bc0)

  30. Maybe, just maybe, The Constitutional Vanguard Forum is a step in the right direction. I say maybe because we’ll be needing a crap load more forums all across the fruited plain to make any difference. I don’t believe we can save our country because to so would require saving it’s people and from what I see they have no desire to be saved. They’re rather be taken care of.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  31. Someone asked Hemingway how he went broke.

    “Slowly at first. Then all of a sudden.”

    Steve57 (eca648)

  32. there has been too much ‘fundamental transformation’ wrought, and red queen is yet another horseman, to take the chance, one fundamental decision, the mexican bailout, created the whole wave of ‘too big to fails’ from asia, to longtermcapital, to the tarp,

    narciso (732bc0)

  33. I would suggest, sir, it took longer than one generation. But I quibble.

    Like any Great Con, Steve57, the set up took more than one generation. But haven’t you noticed the complete “fundamental transformation” in the last ten years? I have. Ask yourself this: fifteen years ago would a major magazine put: “WE ARE ALL SOCIALISTS NOW” on its cover? No f-in way.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  34. remember that scene in the animal farm where the owners couldn’t distinguish from their kept animals,

    http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/clinton-foundation-received-millions-saudis-qatar-iran

    there is a commonality of interests between the medici and razorback clan, thankfully not done by marriage but by intermediaries,

    narciso (732bc0)

  35. It’s a shame the Bad Hemingway contest no longer exists.

    “We made love on the billiard table, my rabbit-haired girl, and the balls went everywhere.”

    Steve57 (eca648)

  36. Hoagie @33, I’ve noticed.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  37. narciso, if Christians were running around blowing things up while quoting Bible verses I could not in good conscience say it had nothing to do with Christianity.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  38. yes, but there’s a lot of money spread liberally around, that quiets those objections, it seems,

    narciso (732bc0)

  39. “It is disqualifying for a modern-day presidential nominee to refuse to release tax returns to the voters, especially one who has not been subject to public scrutiny in either military or public service,” said Romney, long a vociferous critic of Trump’s. “Tax returns provide the public with its sole confirmation of the veracity of a candidate’s representations regarding charities, priorities, wealth, tax conformance, and conflicts of interest.”

    When your blog posts sound like a dumbed down version of Mitt Romney, while you seek to hide from criticism as a constitutionalist (whatever that means), you might be are definitely suffering from post election sour grapes.

    Spit or swallow.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  40. whelp we have seen that lawfare in the cost of being on the right, ask conrad black, or delay or the huntress, the left is rarely burdened in the same way,

    narciso (732bc0)

  41. or silvio berlusconi, who was finally taken down after 20 years, on a reversible technicality,

    narciso (732bc0)

  42. Point being, narciso, if you could take the Bible the wrong way lots of people would. Except for the Westboro Baptist Church no one is. And they’re widely regarded among Christians as freaks.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  43. yes, those folks ugh as a recent baptist, calvin would say ‘did you read my book’ the europeans seem to think that it has somw real significance, one can look at the arab protectorates, much like the renaissances redoubts of italy and the uk where state and church were fused,

    narciso (732bc0)

  44. Yesterday one in three Oregon Republicans voted for Cruz or Kasich. Even now, with the referees having declared for Trump, Cruz and Kasich each got 3 delegates.

    May I remind our California colleagues they can still vote for Cruz in June?

    kishnevi (93670d)

  45. oikophobia is encouraged, islamognossos is not, ‘knowledge of islam’s nature,

    narciso (732bc0)

  46. Yesterday one in of the three known to exist Oregon Republicans voted for Cruz or Kasich.

    Rarer than a Bigfoot sighting.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  47. We keep grasping at straws. Six years ago the D’s had control of the House and the Senate. The public got a good look at what Democrat rule really meant, and rejected that notion rather decisively. In the House we the Rs now have a majority of about 240 and in the Senate 55. These are comfortable majorities, certainly far different from the status of Republicans over the past 50 years. This should have been significant, but it wasn’t. Now in the SCOTUS, we’ve gone from 4.5 to 3.5, and we think our problems will be solved if we can get back to 4.5.

    The vast majority of the new House- and Senate members ran on Tea-Party-like platforms, and yet when Cruz attempted to implement some Tea-Party-like ideas to thwart the runaway colossus, just a tiny handful of those valiant warriors we elected to change the coarse of history had the courage to support him.

    So here we are. Grasping at the idea that one member of the Supreme Court can do what majorities in both Houses cannot. Or one novice ex-entertainer/businessman can suddenly discover the wisdom, temperament, and discretion to lead, despite recent evidence that points to the opposite result.

    The problem isn’t the citizenry of this country. We have voted for change in both the House and the Senate, but we were duped. And now we’re making the same mistake for the presidency.

    The question is what to do now. nk has identified one existential problem, even write in votes won’t matter in Illinois and perhaps elsewhere. This is news to me. In recent times, write in campaigns for Senate and House seats have been successful in Alaska and Washington, when the loser of the primary bolted and was able somehow to wage a write in campaign in the closing weeks of the election. But this may not work for the Presidential contest, and perhaps our diligent incumbents have changed the rules to protect them from similar upsets in the future. At this point, nothing would surprise me regarding those who aspire to public office, particularly those who now hold office.

    We need to look beyond grasping at straws. Our ideas can win elections. They have done so for the past six years in Governors races as well as House and Senate races. But the stooges we elect are little more than fancy suits and empty chairs.

    BobStewartatHome (404986)

  48. did you know that in Oregon they elected a Governor whose only personal trait recommending her for office is that she cheats on her husband?

    Not exaggerating, or slinging the bulldust. The harpy brags about it on her wiki.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  49. what can go wrong

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/17/pf/overtime-pay-rule-change-final/index.html

    as they say in futurama, greatly reduced pay for everyone,

    narciso (732bc0)

  50. “They’re rather be taken care of.”

    Sanders has the young panem bloc well in hand, Trump offers circenses, although he is very, very careful about not saying one word which could be construed as threatening the panem subsidy. He’s going to offer panem to the Sanders bloc when Sanders concedes. Will they be dumb enough to believe him?

    Rick Ballard (97c612)

  51. I don’t know if you’ve been noticing rick, but the bar is closed, the coal companies are being driven out of business, followed by the oil companies, some of zaphod’s promises you can count on, in appalachia, and the sun belt this is pronounded,

    narciso (732bc0)

  52. Bill Clinton did NOT “revitalize the economy” as president. Ronald Reagan did that in 1981-2, against furious Democrat opposition, by lowering the top tax rate from 70% (yes, kids, go look up) to 28% and by making US the leader in free trade. He literally made the world safe for capitalism. Bill Clinton, to his credit, did not eff it up as much as his party had hoped he would.

    Bill Clinton was the beneficiary of a number of things: the fall of the Soviet Union, Bush Sr’s quick reaction to the recession that caused (particularly in aerospace), and the breakout of the Internet (that Al Gore claimed to have “invented.”)

    Basically, Bill Clinton was elected president in a golden age engineered by his predecessors.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  53. Hillary won the Kentucky primary in 2008 with 459,511 votes.

    Yesterday, Hillary got 212,549 votes to Bernie’s 210,626 in Kentucky, give or take some stragglers.

    The joke is the newscasters going out of their way to make it clear that Hillary actually won a primary for a change.

    Do you think Crooked Hillary will finally close the deal? If she can’t win Kentucky, she should drop out of the race,” Trump tweeted Tuesday night before adding “system rigged.”

    That’s what I love about Trump. He pops up with a moment of clarity, among the drunk on politics, alcoholics.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  54. Hoagie,

    You leave out some, such as me:

    The Rationalist, who wants a candidate who has at least a little bit of integrity, common sense, the ability to reason, is reflective and measured and acts based on facts and history.

    He’s not swayed by frothy emotional appeal, not does he blame others for his occasional misfortune, and he resents it when a candidate rides on a tide of group hatred. He sees demagogues for the liars that they are and refuses to give power to such dangerous people as the outcome is unforseeable.

    Trump’s election would be a singularity. Only someone who is convinced that helter-skelter is better than anything either party was offering would attract a rationalist to Trump.

    You may claim that it’s either Trump of Hillary, but who the F’s fault is THAT? Trump’s supporters have held up bogeymen as “the alternative” this whole campaign. Now it’s Hillary. Do not blame me for the choices you made.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  55. Donald Trump has released his list of potential appointments to the US Supreme Court. Looks like a pretty darn good line-up. I’ll defer to the legal professionals for a first round of comments. The following excerpt is from the AP’s Jill Colvin:

    JERSEY CITY, N.J. (AP) — Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, has released a list of 11 potential Supreme Court justices he plans to vet to fill the seat of late Justice Antonin Scalia if he’s elected to the White House.

    Trump’s picks include Steven Colloton of Iowa, Allison Eid of Colorado and Raymond Gruender of Missouri.

    Also on the list are: Thomas Hardiman of Pennsylvania, Raymond Kethledge of Michigan, Joan Larsen of Michigan, Thomas Lee of Utah, William Pryor of Alabama, David Stras of Minnesota, Diane Sykes of Wisconsin and Don Willett of Texas. Trump had previously named Pryor and Sykes as examples of kind of justices he would choose.

    ropelight (391c40)

  56. “Suckers try to win arguments, non-suckers try to win.”

    Colonel Haiku (32652f)

  57. When asked about Elizabeth Warren Trump replied, “You mean Pocahontas?”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  58. Don Willett of Texas.

    Trump has now officially broken the ice.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  59. Bill Clinton was paid $300,000 for a speech in front of the Oracle Corporation in Rancho Mirage, California, the disclosure shows. Over the past year, he has also given speeches to groups such as the Wyndham Hotel Group in Las Vegas; the private equity firm Apollo Management Holdings; UBS Wealth Management; and the Texas China Business Council, among other groups.

    The Wall Street Journal reports also That Bill Clinton gave a speech to “America’s Health Insurance Plans” in June, 2015 (285,000) This is the trade association for health insurance companies. There was $200,000 from Stephens. Inc (an Arkansas financial firm whose ties to Bill Clinton go back to the 1970s and whose owner also rescued him in 1990 – also financed Orval Faubus – yes, that Orval Faubus – in his campaign for the Democratic nomination in 1984 * ) and a payment from Computer Design and Integration LLC ($225,000) in September, 2015. This is a New Jersey firm.

    The last honorarium that Bill Clinton received was in November, 2015, for some event in Toronto.

    The New York Times reports that he didn’t give any speeches to overseas groups in 2015, unlike 2014. I suppose Canada is not overseas. They say his speeches in 2015 were only to domestic trade groups and companies. It says Bill Clinton collected as much as $285,000 for a speech in 2015, so anything over that must be befre.

    The New York Times reports that the last speeches that Hillary Clinton gave before announcing for president were to the American Camp Association ($260,000) and eBay ($315,000)

    It’s not just banks. That fact is not actually helpful to Hillary Clinton, so they’ve been letting Bernie Sanders talk as if it’s only Goldman Sachs. (The Goldman Sachs money went to her)

    All this information comes from the financial disclosure form the Clinton campaign released yesterday, which revealed information for January 2015 through April 2016. Hillary Clinton also received $5 million in book royalties during that time. Bill Clinton was paid as a consultant by the Varkey GEMS Foundation and by Laureate Education Inc, a private for-profit college. The Clintons have not released a tax return for 2015 yet, and the financial disclosure form doesn’t tell you much he earned from consulting work.

    Assets are reported in wide ranges. The total would be between $11.3 million and $52.7 million, but does not include the value of their two houses (one in New York State and one in Washington, D.C.) or that of any federal defined-contribution retirement accounts or the present value of their public pensions.

    Their two largest assets were a cash account at J.P. Morgan Chase and an index fund at Vanguard Group (they don’t go in for complicated investments when it comes to their own money) both at over $5 million and less than $25 million.

    * If Trump was gott into the race by Clinton, that wasn’t the first time Bill Clinton tried this tactic.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  60. Mr. Trump’s judges are so much more constitutiony than the ones partial-birth pee-stank will appoint.

    It’s like night and day.

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  61. chagoury’s handiwork, he helped organize the bronx cheer against cruz among middle eastern christians,

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/05/civilian-rescues-chibok-girl-from-boko-haram/

    narciso (732bc0)

  62. May I remind our California colleagues they can still vote for Cruz in June?

    Kasich, Carson and Gilmore are also on the ballot.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  63. She’s selling Bill because America wants to pretend 9/11 never happened. There’s also the whispered promise of a return to the heady dot.com days.

    “Round-and-round, what’s goes around comes around …”

    Danube River Guide (76b104)

  64. @63, amazing, isn’t it. One civilian Nigerian fighter (an oxymoron; I’m guessing they mean an irregular) proves more powerful then the President of the US. Assuming he did actually want to “bring back our girls.”

    Steve57 (eca648)

  65. I will defer to others more knowledgeable, but with the exception of Pryor these candidates appear to be second-raters.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  66. You may claim that it’s either Trump of Hillary, but who the F’s fault is THAT? Trump’s supporters have held up bogeymen as “the alternative” this whole campaign. Now it’s Hillary. Do not blame me for the choices you made.

    The choices I made? You phukin’ clown, I’m for Cruz! You know who’s “fault” it is that it’s either Trump or Hillary? The voters, that’s who. Now you’re against voting? Trump supporters may have held up what you call a bogeyman but Trump’s detractors derided, chastised and belittled everyone so much they made Trump supporters out of people.

    And for your own information you are a #4, a Sh!tslinger. Read your own comments if you don’t believe me. When you clowns start attacking a Cruz supporter and one of your own I know you’ve slid into total madness.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  67. Ask yourself this: fifteen years ago would a major magazine put: “WE ARE ALL SOCIALISTS NOW” on its cover?

    But until now it wasn’t believable. Now one party is offering a nationalist with socialist tendencies (it’s hard to write that without saying something I don’t intend), and the other party is debating between a corporate socialist and an anti-corporate socialist.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  68. Hogie–

    The “YOU” in that comment related to the Trump supporters, who you. Your post was from the viewpoint of a Trump defender, so take some responsibility for any confusion you may have caused.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  69. I don’t know very much about the others but Texas Supreme Court Justice Willett would be good. I think Trump probably saw him on Twitter. Justice Willett tweets, although his tweets are far more clever and much less nasty than Trump’s.

    DRJ (15874d)

  70. * The “YOU” in that comment related to the Trump supporters, NOT you.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  71. As for who you support,Hoagie, you seem to be more of a “former Cruz supporter who has given up and accepts the party choice” AKA “The Party Drone.”

    As for slinging sh1t, I sling facts. That they appear as sh1t to some is only because everything looks like that where their heads are.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  72. Willet will be OK, but he strikes me as much less that Cruz or Abbot, just looking at Texas.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  73. numero quatro

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  74. It’s more like baseball though, isn’t it? The picking of a SC Judge. You go to the triple A club to find the hot hitter. Preferably someone who will last a season or three.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  75. The Four Horsemen of the Trumpocalypse finds Quatro.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  76. There’s a sixth category of Trumpkin — the white supremacist racist xenophobes — let’s call them “David Dukes”. We saw a couple, Christoph and Boris, who are pretty explicit, and we have others concerned about the second and third world “browning” America. Trump is their Great Orange Hope.

    nk (dbc370)

  77. Although Canadian Christoph and New Zealander Boris might also be considered golddiggers from one perspective. They want the visas that go to black and brown people to go to them and their relatives. Goldddiggers For Shortfinger!

    nk (dbc370)

  78. Willett worked for Abbott when he was the Texas AG so IMO he has the right principles, but Abbott and Cruz seem to have more academic ability. That isn’t the only kind of smarts that matter, of course, except on the Supreme Court.

    But it doesn’t matter because this is just talk and says nothing about whether Trump would actually get a conservative nominated and confirmed. I doubt he could or would. Trump won’t spend his political capital on the Court. He could promise to bring Scalia back from the dead and it would be as likely to happen.

    DRJ (15874d)

  79. Kevin’s as full of sh*t as a Christmas goose. Big bluster and false claims of moral superiority, but the reality is a noisy little Banty Rooster crowing at sundown angry no one is takes him seriously.

    ropelight (391c40)

  80. When your blog posts sound like a dumbed down version of Mitt Romney, while you seek to hide from criticism as a constitutionalist (whatever that means), you might be are definitely suffering from post election sour grapes.

    papertiger, here is a logical argument. Tell me if it is valid:

    x makes many poor arguments.
    x makes argument y.
    Therefore, argument y is a poor argument.

    I know, literally arguing logic with a Trumper is like screaming at a wall. But this is for the benefit of, and amusement of, others.

    The answer, by the way, is that the argument is invalid.

    Tax returns are important, in my estimation, because they can disclose potential financial entanglements, reassure voters that the candidate has not violated the law, and give insight as to their level of charity and how that compares to their public pronouncements, among other things. That Mitt Romney happens to agree with me is totally irrelevant.

    Patterico (0bb131)

  81. and yet taking the same tack that felled romney, because searchlight was utterly unscrupulous, (he already had the records) yet lied through his rotten teeth, seems a poor tack,

    narciso (732bc0)

  82. Argument y has not been demonstrated to be invalid.

    Additionally, there is no law compelling Donald Trump to disclose his taxes. Scott Brown was on TV within the last few days explaining the problems which arose when he disclosed his own tax returns. All sorts of crooks tried to use Brown’s returns for illegal scams. Brown said it wasn’t worth all the years of difficulties releasing his tax returns caused.

    ropelight (391c40)

  83. Argument y has not been demonstrated to be invalid.

    Additionally, there is no law compelling Donald Trump to disclose his taxes. Scott Brown was on TV within the last few days explaining the problems which arose when he disclosed his own tax returns. All sorts of crooks tried to use Brown’s returns for illegal scams. Brown said it wasn’t worth all the years of difficulties releasing his tax returns caused.

    ropelight (391c40) — 5/18/2016 @ 1:13 pm

    Actually papertiger claims argument y is invalid. Or are you disputing papertiger?

    Has anyone claimed there’s a law compelling Donald Trump to disclose his taxes?

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  84. Gerald, where does the Tiger claim argument y is invalid?

    ropelight (391c40)

  85. Want to bring it back to square? Alright. Trump said he would release his tax returns when the audit was done.

    Prudent move to take on Day 1105 of the IRS Scandal.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  86. 73.As for who you support,Hoagie, you seem to be more of a “former Cruz supporter who has given up and accepts the party choice” AKA “The Party Drone.”

    Still on that slippery slope towards insanity Kevin M? I’m not a “former Cruz supporter who has given up”, I’m a Cruz supporter who understands and accepts the reality that Cruz lost, Trump won. You can keep moaning and groaning about Trump but the fact remains….he won.

    It’s not a matter of “the party choice” it’s a matter of what choices we have. Hillary or Trump. You really act like it’s the first time the Republican party handed you a sh!t sandwich and welcomed you to lunch. Grow up. I haven’t voted for a Republican I really agreed with since Ronaldus. Not one. So why should Trump be any damn different? So a commie can win? I think not.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  87. I see I’m late to teh party…

    Colonel Haiku (32652f)

  88. Frankly, I would never release my taxes regardless of any position I was running for. If Trump does then he’s a real idiot.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  89. There is variance between releasing tax returns when the audit is over, and your formulation, “Trump has promised he will not“, {release his tax returns}, “… until after the election. What’s he hiding?

    I am calling that variance “sour grapes”. You can call it Y if you want.

    Spit or chew.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  90. So she needs a man to revitalize the economy huh?

    So much for being the smartest most able woMAN ever!

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  91. I could care less about Trump’s Tax.

    He is rich. He tries to get around paying taxes.
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    Anyone who is rich not like that?

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  92. the only reason people wanna see Mr. Trump’s taxes is for so they can do criticism on him

    it’s SO obvious

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  93. Hoagie – choosing between Hilkary and Trump is an illusory choice. No thanks. Just because you give your fealty to the Party, doesn’t mean I have to. Maybe if you quit bending over and grabbing your ankles for Team R all of these election cycles, they might care. As is, Team R takes your support as a given, and for granted.

    JD (2e3880)

  94. Maybe Bill can teach all our unemployed people how to give speeches that pay so well. Unemployment solved!

    Patricia (5fc097)

  95. Uh oh. It’s the sour grapes bunch.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  96. “If Trump does then he’s a real idiot.”

    – Rev. Hoagie

    Spoiler alert…

    Leviticus (385aa5)

  97. JD @97, I have to give credit where credit is due.

    Hillary! would not put Don Willet on a list of prospective supreme court justices.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  98. Mr. Trump isn’t even an establishment R at all

    He’s a plum lolly!

    I didn’t think he was all that great at first then i found out our only choices are between him and that pee-stanky old criminal woman.

    And that’s when i had me a goddamn epiphany

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  99. “Mr. Trump isn’t even an establishment R at all”

    There is scant evidence he is an R at all.

    JD (2e3880)

  100. he’s gonna do all them conservative judges Mr. JD

    glory be and hallelujah we got us a friend in Mr. The Donald

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  101. narciso # 103 – one of the most powerful things we can do in support of the Constitution is to bring back the principles of scientific method … require proof … *learn* from history without being trapped by the emotions …

    Your link contains one thing with which I strongly disagree – “People, however, don’t follow those sorts of rules.” (talking about the scientific method) … a more accurate phrasing is “People, however, don’t follow those sorts of rules until they realise just how useful a Life-tool the scientific method can be.” … over the decades, I have introduced many folk to the concept that one can use scientific method (or a variant) in many Life situations … it can be as simple as “If I push this button, I expect this response.” followed by pushing the button, and learning from the result …

    And it can be applied Constitutionally as in – if one doesn’t rein in an out-of-control First Occupant and his Democrat/Progressive Party, that First Occupant and his Democrat/Progressive Party can sic the IRS and other Federal Government Departments onto political opponents … then one can predict that, if one removes the political Democrat/Progressive Party which is doing that from power, the abuse of power is likely to stop … then remove them from power … and we will see it stop – as long as that Democrat/Progressive Party is kept out of power …

    Alastor (2e7f9f)

  102. Bill will rent rooms at the white house for income.
    His personal room service – Mo money, honey.

    mg (31009b)

  103. The categories in the linked piece overlap, except for “Party Drone,” which is wrong.

    The regular Trumpkin shills who comment here all qualify for at least three of the other categories, and exceed them.

    For example, there’s no category listed for “Wants to Behead the Terrorists’ Children Whom Donald Trump Orders the U.S. Military to Target but They Refuse to Kill.” And that, demonstrably from comments I’ve quoted here before — made during Trump’s national TV debate where he made that vow, before Trump could walk them back the next day — precisely fits at least one of the sick deviants who sprouts Trumpkin propaganda here daily.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  104. Indeed, I see that same sick b*stard is still at it on another comment thread today, dishonestly pretending Trump was talking about killing Saddam’s adult sons — despite the fact that they were High Value Targets #3 & #4 in their own right as murderous terrorists, or pretending that Trump wasn’t talking about attacking non-combatants. That’s exactly the premise of the question Bret Baier asked him, and the Trumpkin shill in question came up with all these ridiculous arguments after repeatedly arguing, while the debate was still in progress, that yes, targeting & killing innocent family members including children was a fine idea because there’s no other effective way to get the point across. This Trumpkin shill actually urged the United States to match the ferocity and indecency of the Palestinian terrorists who strap bombs to children to blow up Israeli busses — that was the example he specifically mentioned that we should match. That’s genuinely psychopathic; he should go back on his Haldol.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  105. Whoops, my mistake, I misremembered. Uday and Qusay were HVT Nos. 2 & 3, behind only Saddam himself.

    I watched a fabulous movie last weekend, “Eye in the Sky.” It was remarkably well-balanced and thoughtful for a Hollywood movie, and reminded me of “American Sniper” in that respect. The whole movie is about the efforts to avoid collateral injuries — in this case, to a completely innocent 8-year-old girl who was selling her family’s bread in a neighborhood market adjoining a compound containing known terrorist leaders.

    The entire theater audience was profoundly moved by the film, but I couldn’t help myself from thinking throughout: “That idiot who comments as ‘ropelite’ wants that little girl to get blown up. He’d cheer if he were here.”

    Beldar (fa637a)

  106. Beldar,

    ropelight will just respond by telling you that you don’t understand how Ted Cruz’s great great great uncle was seen in the same train station where President Garfield was assassinated.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  107. terrorist networks are clan based, ksm yousef and other baloch, the quahtani and shehris, the harbis and oufis, and the basayevs-barayev’s in chechnya, therein lies the rub, so nate chrome hasn’t been as scientific as before shocker,

    narciso (732bc0)

  108. pee-stank gonna put a raper in charge of the economy

    a gross disgusting herpes raper his name is get this

    Bill

    shut up

    happyfeet (831175)

  109. “American Sniper” was produced by Mr. The Donald’s finance chairman guy

    happyfeet (831175)

  110. Which of the potential candidates that are left is the closest to reality? Which is more to the right? Which do we have every reason to believe we know almost exactly what the outcome will be should they be elected? And which of them offer the potential for some pleasant surprises?

    Time for a reality check, folks. Put the popcorn and Sno-Caps down.

    Colonel Haiku (32652f)

  111. yes, I pointed that out pikachu, also he underwrote man from uncle, one of my favorite nonblockbusters last year, on the negative side, avatar,

    narciso (732bc0)

  112. avatar was an effing slog

    happyfeet (831175)

  113. Justice Willets? ‘Darth Trump’ Willets?

    Are we playing “who’s trolling who?”.

    Rick Ballard (97c612)

  114. t’s not a matter of “the party choice” it’s a matter of what choices we have. Hillary or Trump.

    I refuse to take my choice of sh1t sandwiches. They are both sh1t sandwiches and I refuse to eat of either one. I still hold out hope of real food, and if necessary I will abstain. But I expect the Libertarians to crack 10%.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  115. 115. “American Sniper” was produced by Mr. The Donald’s finance chairman guy

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/18/2016 @ 5:18 pm

    It just goes to show that even people who want to blow up 8 y.o. girls still need to make money.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  116. seriously, now if california were anyone bluer, it would have navii on it’s state flag, I mean they reelected betamax brown, nuff said,

    narciso (732bc0)

  117. Hoagie, objecting to the “Party Drone” label:

    I’m not a “former Cruz supporter who has given up”, I’m a Cruz supporter who understands and accepts the reality that Cruz lost, Trump won. You can keep moaning and groaning about Trump but the fact remains….he won.

    It’s not a matter of “the party choice” it’s a matter of what choices we have. Hillary or Trump.

    The Party Drone

    The Party Drone is resigned to Trump being the Republican nominee even though he may have preferred a different candidate. The Party Drone will likely repeat some form of “Anyone is better than Hillary” ad nauseum in political discussions. He will accuse anyone not supporting Trump of directly supporting Hillary. The idea that anyone with an “R” next his name could be just as bad as Hillary is as opaque to him as quantum mechanics is to Jose Canseco.

    Q.E.D.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  118. no it doesn’t just go to show that

    that’s a complete and total misnomer

    shame on you

    happyfeet (831175)

  119. Which of the potential candidates that are left is the closest to reality?

    One is a 70 year old commie, one’s a liar and grifter and one’s a reality star that flip flops all over the place. So, NONE, I guess.

    Which is more to the right?

    None of the three have a real “right” bone in their body.

    Which do we have every reason to believe we know almost exactly what the outcome will be should they be elected?

    Hillary will be a continuation of Obama, on steroids. Bernie wants a Soviet state. Heaven knows what Trump wants.

    And which of them offer the potential for some pleasant surprises?

    Bernie. He’s so old he may drop dead at the inauguration. Second, Trump. He may accidentally pick a real conservative for a position or two. Hillary won’t surprise anybody unless she finally confesses she and Huma Abedin are secret moslem lovers.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  120. 120. I refuse to take my choice of sh1t sandwiches. They are both sh1t sandwiches and I refuse to eat of either one. I still hold out hope of real food, and if necessary I will abstain. But I expect the Libertarians to crack 10%.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/18/2016 @ 5:31 pm

    So I take it you didn’t like my ice cream cone analogy. How it doesn’t really matter how little dogsh*t you mix into the ice cream, at moment you put any dogsh*t in the ice cream it becomes 100% dogsh*t.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  121. ice cream isn’t good for you even without poo poo

    what’s wrong with you people

    happyfeet (831175)

  122. maybe a post should be done about this, if you’re finished with the two minute hate,

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/18/who-are-the-11-people-on-donald-trumps-short-list-for-the-supreme-court/

    narciso (732bc0)

  123. Kevin’s as full of sh*t as a Christmas goose.

    For a Trumpie to call ANYONE “full of sh*t” is like Bernie Sanders calling someone “an economic ignoramus.”

    Trump has no integrity, is incurious, breathtakingly ignorant, a cheat, a (poor) bald-faced liar and a wretched human being. He is the picture in the dictionary next to a**hole.

    He is also the choice of about 40% of the GOP electorate and this will get him just barely over the minimum number of votes required for the nomination. That’s a bug, not a feature.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  124. 122. …I mean they reelected betamax brown, nuff said,

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/18/2016 @ 5:34 pm </blockquote

    He was there at the beginning of the end back in the '70s. It only seems poetic justice he should be there at the end of the end.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  125. If recognizing the reality of the situation instead of living in a make-believe dream world of unicorns and rainbows makes me a Party Drone, Kevin M, then so be it. Nonetheless, you’re still a Sh!tslinger and you still persist at driving people toward Trump. Q.E.D back atchya.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  126. I admit that Trump’s main argument that “All the usual suspects think I’m a sh1theel, so I must be pretty good!” is convincing to a lot of people. But we’d do better with a dart and a phone book.

    I think this country died the day Romney lost. I just never thought it would be the GOP who elected the last US President.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  127. you don’t sound like you’re in a good place

    happyfeet (831175)

  128. You got that, Kevin M. The country did die when Romney lost. Not because he was “Mr. Conservative” because he wasn’t, but because we got a person as President who didn’t love the country. As a matter of fact he holds it in contempt.

    I don’t think America is savable. We have allowed too many “diverse” people in who don’t want to assimilate rather they want to make us assimilate to them. They have changed the demographics and I don’t believe for the better but it’s too late.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  129. JHFC, Trump just named a true blue rino pos as his pick for AG. I wish it were Curt instead of Trey.

    mg (31009b)

  130. #110 and 111, Beldar, that’s a dirty lie and you’re a sick jerk.

    ropelight (391c40)

  131. Smokin’ in the Boy’s Tran’s Room

    Sittin’ in the classroom thinkin’ he’s in drag
    Listenin’ to the teacher rap-where’s his handbag
    When two bells ring you know it’s a cue
    Gonna meet the boys on floor number 2
    Smokin’ in the trans room
    Smokin’ in the trans room
    Teacher ain’t you noticed we got some real jewels
    Everybody knows that women never sport no tools
    Checkin’ out the halls makin sure the coast is clear
    Lookin’ in the stalls-nah, there ain’t no Marys here
    Here with my buddies Dixx, Mick & Gene
    Prayin’ to God no trannies makin’ this scene
    Smokin’ in the trans room
    Smokin’ in the trans room
    Teacher ain’t you noticed we got some real jewels
    Everybody knows that women never sport no tools

    Colonel Haiku (32652f)

  132. so over all this whining about trannies

    there’s bigger fish to fry and i really like target’s led bulbs

    happyfeet (831175)

  133. ropeliar,

    Calm yourself.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  134. Did you see Justice Willet doing the haiku?

    Not my bailiwick.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  135. I decided to spruce up my blog:

    https://narcisoscornerw.wordpress.com/?p=78

    narciso (732bc0)

  136. that link is no bueno was it ironic

    happyfeet (831175)

  137. ugh bill is so rapey he makes everything pucker around him in like a 60-yard radius

    #worstsuperpowerever

    happyfeet (831175)

  138. Ropelight is now denying what he said at the time. That even Donald disavowed the next day.

    JD (961803)


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