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5/14/2016

Germany In Denial: If We Teach Migrant Males How To Have Fun Sex, They Won’t Rape

Filed under: General — Dana @ 10:19 am



[guest post by Dana]

While the Muslim migrant rape crisis in Germany continues to explode, it’s troubling but not surprising to see how the brutalization of women is rationalized:

Migrants who assault German women and children are simply rebelling against German power structures. Germans who dare to criticize such assaults are racists.

Given that there is an ongoing effort by officials to keep actual hard data about the number of assaults from the public, it appears that political correctness will help allow the continued sexual assault of untold numbers of women by emboldened males who view the opposite sex as nothing more than objects to use and abuse.

As such, Germany has decided that an effective way of reducing the number of these sexual assaults is to teach these young men how to have sex. The right way. Because if anything will relieve the urge to rape, it’s learning how to have a better orgasm, am I right??

The German government is rushing to integrate hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers, offering them language classes and the prospect of work. But in a country known for its matter-of-fact acceptance of public nudity and creative forms of lovemaking, it is also trying to teach the mostly-Muslim migrants about the joy of sex.

Operating under the premise that many Syrians, Iraqis and others seeking asylum here are naive about the predilections and pitfalls of the European boudoir, Germany’s Federal Center for Health Education has gone live with a sexual education website for adult migrants. Using highly graphic diagrams and images, the $136,000 site outlines everything from first-time sex to how to perform far more advanced sexual acts.

After a rash of sexual assaults allegedly committed by suspects including asylum seekers on New Year’s Eve, the Germans have been on a mission to re-educate migrants, especially males, about sexual norms in the West. In Munich, public pools, for instance, published cartoons warning migrants not to grope women in bikinis. Also in Bavaria, public money is partially funding sexual education classes including lessons for male migrants on how to correctly approach German women.

But if all that is stick — the new government website is definitely more carrot: a guide to the pleasures of sex and the single migrant (or married, for that matter).

Even more stunning than Germany’s refusal to address why Muslim migrant males believe it’s permissible for them to sexually assault women, is the admission that the migrants just can’t help themselves:

Nuri Köseli, a spokesman for Islamic Relief Germany, an organization that’s also working with refugees, said he didn’t find anything particularly offensive about the new website. But he did question its necessity, and argued that such explicit teachings could prove frustrating for some migrants stuck in refugee camps and with limited access to sexual partners.

“Although this is a human need of course, people have bigger problems,” he said. And, he argued, “most of them are staying in emergency shelters for a long time without any access to private spaces. To confront them with such an issue in that situation might even be counter-productive.”

Call me crazy, but if these males are knowingly unable to even look at a clinical, utilitarian illustration of female genitalia without an uncontrollable urge to rape overtaking them, then maybe, just maybe, the state ought to re-think letting them loose on the public in the first place. Because if they do release them into German society and sexual assaults follow, how are they not complicit in the ensuing crime rebellion against the German power structure?

Throughout the article, there is a continued avoidance of addressing the common denominator which binds together these males who believe that women are objects to be assaulted whenever the urge hits. German avoidance, as well as the Washington Post’s avoidance of addressing the root problem will only serve to enable this heinous behavior.

I will note that while the website is certainly educational, the obvious problem, along with the ridiculousness of believing that learning to have sex the right way will fix everything, is that it’s highly unlikely that young males who feel free to sexually abuse women will be remotely interested. And why would they, when there are just so many women out there to violate with very little fear of repercussions?

–Dana

106 Responses to “Germany In Denial: If We Teach Migrant Males How To Have Fun Sex, They Won’t Rape”

  1. Ugh.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  2. I say “ugh,” but I really want to say, “What the fuck is wrong with you people??” And I’m not just talking about the migrant males.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  3. rape used to be a capital offense.

    just sayin’…

    redc1c4 (c4b790)

  4. Rape is un-Islamic.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  5. Never thought I would say this, but I think I liked the Germans better when they were dressed in sharp military uniforms and threatening Czechoslovakia.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  6. Put the wall back up.

    mg (31009b)

  7. I think it’s hilarious that the Master Race s getting raped, screwed and invaded out of existence by seventh century barbarians. How schadenfreude. Sadly, we’re next because its a Constitutional right for moslems to come to America.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  8. When it comes to “Muslim refugees” we are not talking about peeps unsophisticated in what has become the modern usage. They’re videoing everything on their cell phones.

    It isn’t like they grew up in societies where it was OK to sh*t in the public pool. It wasn’t. The fact that they’re sh*tting on German kids in German public pools is the message. I don’t know enough German to tell you I sh*t on you. Here, let me show you.

    Allahu Akhbar!

    Steve57 (eca648)

  9. Maybe if we teach the Muslims how to have fun with fireworks, they won’t feel compelled to blow up airplanes, pizza parlors, and buses.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  10. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
    If turnips were watches, I’d wear one by my side.
    If “if’s” and “and’s” were pots and pans,
    There’d be no work for tinkers’ hands.

    The whole world is awash in magical thinkers of one kind or another. It’s the universal entitlement.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  11. Gee–an ineffective, clueless government running Germany in the middle of a crisis. *That’s* never led to anything bad happening.

    [Scott’s Sarcastic Voice, copyright 2016]

    M. Scott Eiland (b97d1e)

  12. It makes one think that there is a reason, and a very good one, that Muslims dress their wives and daughters in hijab and keep them locked up in the house. Can 1.6 billion Muslims be wrong?

    Forget it, Dana. It’s Chinatown.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  13. European “forward-thinking” has lead to this.

    They are not being invaded. The invasion has already happened. They are now being colonized.

    How long do you figure, before the Turks or the Iranis (or the whoever) decide that all those ethnic Muslims aren’t being treated “fairly” by their “hosts,” and decide to annex the Sudatenland most of Europe to “protect” them?

    arik (02de93)

  14. Springtime For Germany Hadji

    Syria was having trouble
    What a sad, sad story
    Needed to send her people off
    It had gotten far too gory
    Where oh where to go?
    No one stopped the flow
    They looked around and then they found
    The place for jihadis and now it’s
    Springtime for Hadji and Germany
    Deutschland is open for play
    They’re screwing at a faster pace
    Hit it they won’t get sprayed with mace
    Springtime for Hadji and Germany
    Winter for fräuleins and goats
    Springtime for Hadji and Germany
    Come on, Germans, go into your trance

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  15. I used to think that a coward dies a thousand deaths, but now I see that the real number is actually much higher.

    ras (468115)

  16. From Powerline

    male – “I dont believe women have any rights and gays should be hanged”
    Leftist female – ” Wow What a primative a$$hole, you must be a republican”
    Male – “no , I am actual a muslim and those are my religious beliefs”
    Leftist female – Oh I am sorry, I hope you dont think I am islamphobic”

    Joe - From Texas (debac0)

  17. Muslims do distinguish between good women whom men cherish, respect and protect, and the other kind. They consider European women the other kind. A reasonable belief and this only proves it.

    nk (9faaca)

  18. Racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  19. nk,

    Muslims do distinguish…”
    (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  20. ?

    nk (9faaca)

  21. Its hilarious that Germans seem to believe that a website will actually be sufficient to change cultural attitudes of foreigners.

    Yeah, that’s it. Hilarious.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  22. Is there any place to travel in Germany that is safe? I am thinking is is a country I should avoid.

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  23. We’re halfway through May, almost June. Time Time to front load.

    Despite all difficulties, the Rangers used the ropes and ladders to scramble up the cliff. The German defenders were shocked by the bombardment and improbable assault, but quickly responded by cutting as many ropes as they could. They rushed to the cliff edge and poured direct rifle and machine gun fire on the Rangers, augmented by grenades tossed down the slope. The Rangers never broke, continuing to climb amidst the fire as Ranger BAR men picked off any exposed Germans. The destroyer USS Satterlee (DD-626) observed the Rangers’ precarious position, closed to 1500 yards and took the cliff top under direct fire from all guns, a considerable assist at a crucial time.

    The Satterlee had actually trained with the Rangers, so this wasn’t an accident.

    Stand by for tales of the Enterprise, Hornet, and Yorktown as we approach the anniversary of Midway.

    That is all.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  24. Hey tell the Muslim males to bring their little boy friends along and the problem will be solved. Kinda tough on the kids, but it will go easier on the German female population.

    Skeptical Voter (1d5c8b)

  25. the above narrative, stems from this misunderstanding, unraveled here,

    https://home.isi.org/myth-andalusian-paradise

    narciso (732bc0)

  26. As Dennis Prager often says, “A religion should be judged by its adherents.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  27. The Satterlee violated every rule of safe navigation. The point wasn’t to
    bring the ship back. It was to get those men to the top of cliff.

    As light coronello James E. Rudder, C.O. of the Provisional Ranger Force put it when he
    saw the effect the Satterlee was having on the Germans, “Very Nice Shooting! Don’t Go Away”

    Steve57 (eca648)

  28. Is there any place to travel in Germany that is safe? I am thinking is is a country I should avoid.

    The places to avoid in Germany are clearly marked with the sign “Arbeit Macht Frei”.

    nk (9faaca)

  29. Why do people pretend that Islam is a religion of peace?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  30. 29. Why do people pretend that Islam is a religion of peace?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 5/14/2016 @ 5:39 pm

    They want the thought police to give them a pass.

    Steve57 (eca648)

  31. It’s as peaceful as any other major religion you can name.

    A better question is “What part of human history makes you believe that ‘peace’ is not as big a lie as ‘transgender’?”

    nk (9faaca)

  32. #31 nk

    Wrong.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  33. how long did the turks occupy greece, nk?

    narciso (732bc0)

  34. When was the last time Cuba was free?

    nk (9faaca)

  35. #33 and #34

    Hey now, careful before someone gets hurt!

    felipe (325ff3)

  36. putting it another way, spain was ok with the first three centuries of saracen occupation, but then it was time for a change,

    narciso (732bc0)

  37. The places to avoid in Germany are clearly marked with the sign “Arbeit Macht Frei”.

    That is so 1940’s, nk. The contemporary signs are falafel stands, wafting IED clouds and body parts.

    As our president once said: “There’s nothing more beautiful than the sound of the moslem call to prayer”.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  38. 34.When was the last time Cuba was free?

    When was the last time Detroit was free?

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  39. WTF are you smoking, snorting or rubbing into your belly button, nk?!?!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  40. it comes from colorado I think, clearly islam is clearly about submission by force to the will of allah, this was true since the first expeditions on the peninsula,

    narciso (732bc0)

  41. Rolled up pages from Mein Kampf, Haiku.

    nk (9faaca)

  42. Have the Muslims started killing German babies to make their matzohs with, yet?

    nk (9faaca)

  43. nk,

    There are good and bad people of all religions, but Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and Hindus do not blow up buildings while citing fidelity to their religion. That tends to be germain to Islam, however.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  44. Lefties do sympathize with radical Islam and have for a long, long time.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  45. Maybe if they said Alahu Akhbar in English, and set it to music?

    Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.
    He has trampled out the vintage where the grapes of wrath were sowed.
    He has loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
    And His truth keeps marching on!

    Glory, glory, hallelujah, y’all. Just tell me, “Islam is our enemy”. Don’t tell me “That’s warm, yellow rain on your back”.

    nk (9faaca)

  46. exactly the same thing, not really.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpmANGeIo-8

    narciso (732bc0)

  47. You are all right.

    Christians were quite ready to kill and conquer in the name of God for almost two thousand years. And it was the Christian Church which invented the idea of thoughtcrime, under the name of heresy. Which is why nk is right.

    But they did by and large give it up by the time the 20th century arrived. Significant parts of Islam have not.
    Which is why the rest of you are right.

    kishnevi (9cb6b5)

  48. but they were persecuted for three hundred years, really only after constantine converted can we say the conversion by sword, commenced, with islam, it was right from the start,

    narciso (732bc0)

  49. certainly martin luther, practiced category error of the worst kind,

    narciso (732bc0)

  50. Narciso, Christianity began persecuting as soon as they got their hands on the machinery of the state.

    kishnevi (9cb6b5)

  51. I wonder how Dearborn (Michigan) Public Schools will react to the SCOAMF’s bathroom edict. What do you guys think? The anti-Islamic party in Holland was founded by a gay guy who did not want the intrusion of Muslim morality.

    nk (9faaca)

  52. well they killed him and his party eventually dissapated,

    narciso (732bc0)

  53. Probably well before the 20th century arrived, kishnevi.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  54. nk, the lyrics of Battle Hymn of the Republic were composed by Julia Ward Howe, not as a song to celebrate the killing of infidels, but to rally the fight against slavery. You desecrate it by suggesting such.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  55. Next time we save Europe, we make them states territories. Until they prove they can be trusted again with the vote. As much as I dislike the man, even Trump would be better than what they’ve got.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  56. What a pile of bullsh1t.

    When was the last time someone was executed for heresy against Catholicism? Or any other Christian church by any agent of church or state? Or Judaism? When was the last time someone was stoned to death for any of the crimes in Leviticus by either faith?

    Salem? Not sure, but it was a while back. Heck, we can’t even get the drugs for lethal injection of mass murderers any more.

    But Islam? It’s happened in half a dozen countries this year, not even counting ISIS.

    Go take your moral equivalence and stuff it up where your brains been hiding.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  57. When was the last time someone was executed for heresy against Catholicism? Or any other Christian church by any agent of church or state? Or Judaism? When was the last time someone was stoned to death for any of the crimes in Leviticus by either faith?

    Hurray for the Catholics, other Christian churches, and Jews.

    Your German victims of Muslim oppression killed 12 million people for heresy against the Prophet Adolf just over 70 years ago. And that was just in the camps and not counting the at large slaughters by the SS and Wehrmacht everywhere they went. And their motto was Gott Mit Uns. The people who built the Berlin Wall* killed even more in the name of Saint Karl.

    *I would have just sent the whole German population of Berlin to Oranienberg-Sachsenhausen which is pretty close by, but Stalin never asked me.

    nk (9faaca)

  58. …I must have missed the part where they interviewed the perpetrators of the sex crimes in question and found them all to be devout Muslims? Evidence pls??

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752)

  59. nk, the lyrics of Battle Hymn of the Republic were composed by Julia Ward Howe, not as a song to celebrate the killing of infidels, but to rally the fight against slavery. You desecrate it by suggesting such.

    The question was “religion[s] of peace”. Have we mothballed the Battle Hymn Of The Republic as an embarrassing reminder of an un-enlightened, medieval era when we went to war in the name of God?

    nk (9faaca)

  60. If Germany simply makes it mandatory that the women consent, then it won’t be rape. Problem solved!

    The ever-so-practical Dana (1b79fa)

  61. You only think you’re joking. A woman applying for unemployment compensation, in Germany, was told she would have to include brothels in her job search.

    nk (9faaca)

  62. #50 No, Christianity DID NOT began persecuting as soon as they got their hands on the machinery of the state.

    The machinery of the state has always prosecuted in the name of some “moral” cause. Christianity was just another one of the many causes.

    This is why our Founders wanted to separate State from Mosque, errr, Church.

    Many atheists and anti-religionist lose sight of this in their effort to eradicate religion (or God symbols) from public life (and eventually private).

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  63. The Christian faith from the beginning by definition was not a kingdom of this world, and for that reason Christ followers were not to use force in furthering His Kingdom.
    Typically, when people of Christian faith get into positions of political power, instead of their faith informing their just exercise of political power, the drive to political power uses a veneer of faith to solidify earthly power.
    This is reasonably a stumbling block to faith if this is seen as a natural outcome of the faith and not an example of sin working in those who are being disobedient to their own faith.

    I think there have always been examples of people who lived the Christian faith more true to their Master, but often one needs to look beyond the headlines.
    The figure was given that 12 million died under Hitler, 6 million is usually given as the number of Jews. In the other 6 million were many who opposed Hitler because of their Christian faith.

    There is much in the NT about behavior that shows that one’s faith is genuine or not.

    I suppose some could argue that the same is true for Muslims, as not all believe in armed jihad,
    but as Steve and others have shown, the writings of Islam are easily seen to support and justify murderous behavior, the Christian Scriptures do not.

    Painted Jaguar (a sock puppet) (f9371b)

  64. What RKS said.
    Painted Jaguar is so wordy,
    and takes too many words to express himself…

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  65. “…I must have missed the part where they interviewed the perpetrators of the sex crimes in question and found them all to be devout Muslims? Evidence pls??

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752)”

    I must have missed where anyone claimed that it was only Muslims that ever perpetrated said atrocities. Evidence pls?!

    JD (7fd277)

  66. imported Muslims are very destabilizing they’re kinda like killer sex robots

    happyfeet (831175)

  67. yesyesyes i love having them around like cupcakes

    imported Muslims love gay marriagings and are not lifeydoodles

    bonus they like using the same bathroom as hoochies

    they are so understanding

    it’s a thing

    snarkyfeet (46554b)

  68. Perhaps the Germans have forgotten the liberal meme: rape is about power, not about sex. Alas! Amanda Marcotte does not publish in German!

    Even if we assume that these rapes are about sex, the German program misses the rather fundamental problem: rape means that the victim has not consented, and therefore the program must be meant to encourage German women to consent to sex with men with whom they hadn’t previously chosen to copulate.

    It would seem that Allied bombing during World War II killed off the more intelligent Germans, and ’twas the morons who survived, and reproduced.

    The Dana who can see the problems (1b79fa)

  69. Your German victims of Muslim oppression killed 12 million people for heresy against the Prophet Adolf just over 70 years ago.

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. This is so stupidly silly that it defies comment.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  70. I would have just sent the whole German population of Berlin to Oranienberg-Sachsenhausen which is pretty close by, but Stalin never asked me.

    Says Prophet nk, a genocide at heart. Hate much?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  71. The wider point is what is a Christian obligation to power Romans 13 adresses that.

    narciso (4777d8)

  72. Birgia princes or Tudor kings, were sadly unaccountable.

    narciso (4777d8)

  73. “I think it’s hilarious that the Master Race s getting raped, screwed and invaded out of existence…”

    So you are pleased that innocents suffer, people who were not responsible for what Hitler did. Glad to know you are so comfortable with being a moral imbecile. I’ll return the favor and point out that it is certain that some of your ancestors did evil things. May evil fall upon you, and may you recall this comment when it does. Scumbag.

    pst314 (ae6bd1)

  74. “I must have missed where anyone claimed that it was only Muslims that ever perpetrated said atrocities.”

    OP went out of their way to add (and emphasize) that the migrant abusers are Muslim. I was hoping there might be some evidence behind that insertion. As a Christian, I get touchy about slamming an entire religion categorically.

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752)

  75. Tom Ryberg,

    The migrant abusers are Muslim.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  76. Ryberg, where did you get the idea that there is a flood of Lutheran refugees from Syria?

    SPQR (e36e01)

  77. the term is hijra, migration, (although one characterize it as invasion} as opposed to hegira which is pilgrimage,

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3591893/Now-hundreds-migrants-Caribbean-fly-6-000-miles-Turkey-bid-enter-Europe-posing-Somalia.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

    narciso (732bc0)

  78. Ryberg is a drooling moron.

    JD (2d0886)

  79. I don’t doubt that many (though not all) refugees from Syria are Muslim. I do question the correlation>>>causation link that is being implied by intentionally naming those migrants who have committed sex crimes as Muslim. I’ll bet if we looked at the religious backgrounds of known pedophiles in America, we’d see that a solid majority of them are Christian. But that wouldn’t reveal that there is something about Christianity that inherently produces pedophilia, except perhaps to those who are anti-Christian to begin with.

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752)

  80. Shhhhh, JD. Grown-ups are talking.

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752)

  81. Ryberg, your point seems to be: “squirrel !”

    SPQR (a3a747)

  82. 51. That’s why Paul Babeu, not Joe Arpaio, should be Trump’s DHS Director.

    urbanleftbehind (aed6df)

  83. Tommy Ryberg,

    Logic does not appear to be your strong suit.
    By the way, many Muslim countries allow grown men to take child brides. So, introducing pedophilia into the conversation is probably a bad chess move.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  84. SPQR, a little context: I’m a pastor in my community. Recently, there have been some good interfaith connections made between local Christians and Muslims refugees from Iraq and Syria. The Iraqi family I hang out with got here because ISIS murdered three of their immediate family, in retaliation for interpreting for the US military.

    All of this is to say, I can’t get with lazily scapegoating an entire religion because of its worst adherents. Even when it isn’t my religion under attack.

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752)

  85. where is this conversation going exactly

    happyfeet (831175)

  86. . I’ll bet if we looked at the religious backgrounds of known pedophiles in America, we’d see that a solid majority of them are Christian.

    Really Tom Ryberg? Could that be because about 80% of Americans identify as Christian? I’d also bet if we took an honest look at the backgrounds of said pedophiles you’d find most were fallen, non practicing, apostate Christians or atheists, agnostics and CINO’s.

    Here’s your “interfaith connection” Tom:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2015-12/195735_5_.jpg

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  87. Tommy,

    Having some “nice Muslim friends” in your community does not negate the fact that these Syrian migrants are committing acts of sexual violence in Germany. Facts are facts.
    Not all cultures are equal.
    And it does not negate the fact that many Muslim countries sanction grown men marrying PRE-pubescent girls. And the whole genital mutilation thing is a problem, too.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  88. tories, christian democrats, socialists, do the refugees no favors, instead of saying, you can stay if you follow the law, misbehavior will have consequences, I knew many good people from the mariel boatlift, yet there were undoubted scofflaws, that turned south florida for a time, into ‘paradise lost’ because the authorities had neither the will nor the resources to deal with the problem,

    narciso (732bc0)

  89. Rev. Hoagie, I agree completely. That’s precisely why I think it’s problematic to insist on labeling these migrants committing sex crimes as Muslim. Because clearly, not all adherents of a given faith are equivalent.

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752)

  90. Tommy,

    You’re not about truth—you’re about political correctness.
    Women are generally considered second class citizens in most Muslim countries, so these young men grow up conditioned to believe they can mistreat women.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  91. I’ll bet if we looked at the religious backgrounds of known pedophiles in America, we’d see that a solid majority of them are Christian. But that wouldn’t reveal that there is something about Christianity that inherently produces pedophilia, except perhaps to those who are anti-Christian to begin with.

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752) — 5/15/2016 @ 5:57 pm

    Someone needs to tell the German government. They’re off on the wrong track.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  92. Cruz Supporter, I agree that the
    migrants are committing the crimes. I disagree that their assumed Muslim-ness is the reason.

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752)

  93. the problem is christian refugees, aren’t even allowed into the refugee ceters, that provide the intake,

    narciso (732bc0)

  94. Cruz Supporter, I don’t care about political correctness. But fairness matters.

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752)

  95. Whether it is their Muslim-ness, or their areligious cultural assumptions (assuming for the moment that there is such a distinction in Muslim countries), they assume that any woman not covered head to toe is a whore, theirs for the taking.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  96. Nobody is saying that all who call themselves Muslims are criminals. Probably most who consider themselves Muslim don’t know much of what Islam actually teaches,
    just as many in the US who consider themselves Christian have little idea as to what is actually in the Bible or even just the NT.
    But, to say that known teachings and attitudes of many Muslim immigrants are not contributing to the outbreak of shameful behavior is just overlooking the obvious.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  97. Tommy,

    “Fairness” is one of Barack’s favorite Alinskyite words to use when he can’t successfully argue the facts.
    Again, Muslim countries generally have different cultural attitudes toward women than we do in the West. You can deny that all you want.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  98. That’s precisely why I think it’s problematic to insist on labeling these migrants committing sex crimes as Muslim.

    Nobody is “labeling” them moslem, they are moslem. They are from moslem countries, allowed to immigrate because they’re moslem and settle in moslem neighborhoods. Sounds to me like the perennial talking, walking duck.

    I disagree that their assumed Muslim-ness is the reason.

    Then if not “their moslemness” what? Change of climate? Not enough sand in Germany? Blond hair makes them crazy? Exactly what else could it be other than their moslem background.

    Next you’ll be telling us you agree with transsexual bathrooms and global warming.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  99. #NoLabels

    JD (7fd277)

  100. Please let us know when you start acting like an adult, Tommy.

    JD (7fd277)

  101. Earth girls are easy.

    nkounter of the third kind (dbc370)

  102. Mr Ryberg wrote:

    That’s precisely why I think it’s problematic to insist on labeling these migrants committing sex crimes as Muslim.

    They aren’t being labeled, they are being identified. The difference might seem subtle, but it isn’t.

    The very realistic Dana (f6a568)

  103. Tom Ryberg wants us to admit that “They’re not *all* like that”. Well, of course they’re not.

    He says *HE* “knows some good ones”. Well, of course he does.

    And? So? The 1400-year history of Islam is what it is. Islam exists to conquer “the Other”.

    The absolute ESSENCE of Islam is “submission to the will of Allah”. (The word “Islam” being the word for “submission”, of course.) A Muslim *MUST* believe the Koran is the True-Perfect-Literal-Eternal Word of God as revealed to Mohammed. He *MUST* believe Mohammed is the Perfect Man, worthy of emulation by all. He *MUST* believe that Muslim women have half-the-value of Muslim men, and that non-Muslims have half-the-value of that. He *MUST* believe that every word in the Koran is true, even the parts that contradict each other.

    That means that “Slay the Unbeliever wherever you may find him” is true and good, because Allah said it. That means that “Lo, I am made victorious by terror” is true and good, because Mohammed said it.

    And, *that* means that, EVEN IF THE MUSLIM YOU KNOW IS ONE OF THE “GOOD, MODERATE, PEACE-LOVING” ones, he still *must* believe that God’s eventual plan is for the WHOLE WORLD to become Islamic “and live in peace under one Caliph”. Therefore —> God moves in mysterious ways, inshallah, and if the people of Europe or of the USA want to roll-over-and-play-dead while they are being invaded by hordes of fighting-age Muslim men claiming refugee status, what would/ should a good Muslim do, but submit to the Will of Allah?

    PS- don’t forget, that these “good” and “peaceful” Muslims you know will have children; and those children will search for their “roots”; and *some* of those children *WILL* decide that fundamentalist Islam –including jihad and martyrdom– is indeed the path that Allah wills for them. That has been the path of Islam for 1400 years, and Islam does not -and can not- change.

    Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah (e83387)


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