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5/7/2016

Kevin D. Williamson: “Why the Left Hates Jews”

Filed under: Constitutional Vanguard,General — Patterico @ 12:44 pm

Kevin D. Williamson:

The Arab–Israeli conflict is a bitter and ugly one. My own view of it is that the Palestinian Arabs have some legitimate grievances, and that I stopped caring about them when they started blowing up children in pizza shops.

Treat both sides equally. So says the Republican standard bearer.

I’m happy to say that he’s not my standard bearer.

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108 Responses to “Kevin D. Williamson: “Why the Left Hates Jews””

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. Treat both sides equally is a huge sea change from the viscerally anti-semitic era of food stamp.

    If this is his policy Mr. Trump needs for real bodyguards not these secret service jokers.

    happyfeet (831175)

  3. the left hates bernie sanders?

    wrong again (dadbb3)

  4. OK, why don’t we measure our strength. Our first project should be to get the supposed “28th Amendment” enacted. It goes like this:

    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States.”

    If we can do this, then maybe we are a meaningful group.

    bald01 (f38852)

  5. i love it!

    yo wiscotrash paul ryan maybe try a little do unto others instead of just selling your votes like a painted lady

    happyfeet (831175)

  6. 3.the left hates bernie sanders?

    Bernie Sanders isn’t a Jew, he’s a communist. One can’t be both.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  7. Mr. Goldstein has a new post up you guys have many synchronicity

    it’s very remarkable

    happyfeet (831175)

  8. “…a charlatan in the Oval Office who kinda sorta pretends to be a Republican?”

    Pffffft. In fact, it is libertarians and conservatives who’ve pretended to be “Republicans.” And at last, we’re getting rid of these splinters in the elephant’s ass.

    DCSCA (a343d5)

  9. The blowing up of people is not caused grievances. The blowing up of people (since before Israel existed) is what caused the actions by Israel that led to the so-called grievances, which are really just excuses for blowing up people,

    LTEC (9c117a)

  10. well this was reagan’s posture for the most part, phillip habib was pushing his stupid plan for years, the pentagon deprived israel of intelligence on the plo, hence pollard,

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7953/arabs-jews

    but one really has to go to the first confrontations, at khaybar and yathrib, you know the latter by a different name now, medina, the fortress,

    narciso (732bc0)

  11. I support Israel, but our countrymen of Jewish ancestry must fend for themselves in America. They need to sleep in the bed they’ve helped make, perhaps it will be a wake-up call, but I wouldn’t bank on it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. back then friedman, who widlanski points out he got his first big break wrong, was saying we should trust syria, because of hama rules, never mind their support of hezbollah, and their designs on the golan, previously their sanctuary of nazi war criminals like brunner, well he left that last part out,

    narciso (732bc0)

  13. Long live the IDF.

    mg (31009b)

  14. good luck with that

    obama gave iran nukes remember

    happyfeet (831175)

  15. gibbering is the operative word at Mr. Goldstein’s link.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  16. Mr happyfeet, politicians like Paul Ryan wouldn’t be selling their votes if it weren’t for The Mr Donalds of the world who are the johns.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  17. Just remember Colonel, American Jews are not Israeli’s. American Jews for the most part are invested in the socialist/leftist ideology espoused by the democrats. Hence the strange association with the dems and the Jews. One would think the American Jew would feel akin to a solid Christian, Freedom-Loving, small government Republican since it is we who back Israel. Not so. Therefore, behold the legendary self-hating Jew…the New Democrat, a Socialist/communist. Or, to put it succinctly: Bernie Sanders.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  18. 15.Mr happyfeet, politicians like Paul Ryan wouldn’t be selling their votes if it weren’t for The Mr Donalds of the world who are the johns.

    There wouldn’t be Mr. Donald’s if the votes of Mr. Ryan were not for sale, Cruz Supporter. The government has all the power, not the businessman. But I view it as a chicken/egg type of thing.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  19. Agree, Hoagie, that’s why I feel the way I do.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  20. Evan Sayet has written that if one believes in multiculturalism and that all cultures are equal, how does one understand why some cultures chronically fail? Why is Israel a success and the rest of the Arab world a dismal, savage failure?

    Well, all cultures are equal, right? So the answer must be that someone is oppressing the Arabs, someone is oppressing the denizens of the barrio and the ghetto. Guess who that someone is? White people, capitalists, Jews.

    So by virtue of their success, America and Israel are de facto oppressors.

    http://www.amazon.com/KinderGarden-Of-Eden-Modern-Liberal/dp/1480010421

    Patricia (5fc097)

  21. Colonel, my first wife was a Jew and I couldn’t understand for the life of me why her entire family, quite successful, several millionaires like her father and uncle and all democrats. But they were your typical American Jews. They went to Temple for weddings and funerals. All the kids had their Bar/Bat-mitsvah’s and they “nominally” celebrated holidays. There was no commitment to faith or God on their part. All the men were businessmen or professionals and all the wives were housewives and professional shoppers. I remember one time my mother-in-law was ill and Saks called and offered to send a limo to get her. It’s even funnier when you realize my father-in-law owned five new car dealerships. He had a six car garage and still left the Porsche out in the rain.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  22. Well Patricia, I for one don’t believe all cultures are equal. Some aren’t even close. That’s why I don’t believe in letting all cultures immigrate to America.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  23. “Treat both sides equally. So says the Republican standard bearer.”

    It would be helpful if references to a Trump utterance contained at least a date stamp and the makeup of the audience being gulled. His remarks to AIPAC had a different tenor, just as his hiring the Goldy Sacks fellow as head pick pocket diverges rather significantly from his remarks pertaining to Cruz. OTOH – time might be better spent trying to nail jello to a wall.

    Rick Ballard (44b7ba)

  24. Here’s a date stamp for ya… A bumper sticker says it all…
    http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/american_studies/nuff_said_the_single_bigg.php

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  25. WOW! Just WOW! a rabid left-winger co-worker of mine, who’s in favor of a government living wage allowance, who’s in favor of firing everybody in our joint armed forces, who’s in favor of drug legalization, who believes that affirmative action should be accompanied by—at a minimum—40 acres and a mule, who believes that George W. Bush was the Anti-Christ and Rush Limbaugh is Satan himself, assured me—soto-voce—just a day, ago that Jews were meant to be exterminated. He told me that he hates them and the reason is because he’s never been invited to a Jew’s house for dinner. You—literally—can’t make this stuff up.

    Jack (ff1ca8)

  26. Yeah, Jews are stupid. They don’t know who their real friends are.

    F*** them. They didn’t vote for us last time and they won’t vote for us this time. Israel is a strategic albatross around America’s neck. Unfortunately, Trump will not be able to do much about it because Capitol Hill is Israeli-occupied territory.

    The first line is sarcasm.
    The second paragraph is real quotes from real Republicans who served directly, in day-to-day contact, real Republican Presidents.

    I give Trump credit for bringing the abscess that was the Republican Party to a head, with the yellow pus now oozing out.

    nk (dbc370)

  27. yes, that was jim baker, now a friend of the ayatollahs, that could be wilkerson, powell’s 9/11 denialist aide de camp, the third could be mike scheuer,

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3578888/Navy-officer-trained-British-college-joins-ISIS.html

    narciso (732bc0)

  28. 80% of nonmuslim anti-Semites today are Leftists. I haven’t even heard a white trash say “jew’d me down” in two decades.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  29. seriously nk, sid vicious, charles freeman, any number of democratic officials can be named,

    narciso (732bc0)

  30. 23- love it.

    mg (31009b)

  31. I think that the Pat Buchanans and James Bakers whom nk alluded to in #25 probably have long held Israel in contempt as “payback” for American Jews overwhelmingly voting Democrat since WW2. It’s quite disgusting.
    I think there’s also a degree of animosity toward Israel by some or our right-leaning brethren because a number of key Communists happened to be of Jewish extraction. You’d think that Buchanan would have more sense than to play that game considering the discrimination that Irish and Catholics endured even as recently as 1960 when JFK had to answer questions about whether or not he could govern independent of the Papacy.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  32. this was the head of the bin laden unit, referred by widlanski, much like truman smith in berlin, he admired his target too much,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_T1VrzdaKs

    narciso (732bc0)

  33. Williamson is right, there are two tests, one having to do with a man’s politics, the other having to do with the man’s humanity. It’s really the latter test that is more important. The question begged by Williamson’s remark is “How could it be otherwise”?

    I didn’t care much for Mitt Romney’s politics. As a human being, the more I learned about him, the higher in regard I held him. Although I found it galling to vote for a squish, Mitt’s personal integrity made it possible.

    When I was a boy, I often heard elders say “I vote for the man,” meaning, of course, that their vote is based on a candidate’s character. It is a lesson I learned and learned well. I’m surprised by how few now share this view.

    ThOR (df0186)

  34. I haven’t even heard a white trash say “jew’d me down” in two decades.

    If you’re trying to point out someone is a bigot for using derogatory terms SPQR, it helps if you don’t call them “white trash” , itself a derogatory term. But I am curious, what exactly is “a white trash” in your opinion?

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  35. Rev.Hoagie, really? That’s deep.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  36. the left hates bernie sanders?

    wrong again (dadbb3) — 5/7/2016 @ 12:55 pm

    Williamson makes the point that the left hates Jews corporately, not individually. Nothing else can explain the intense animus directed at Israel.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  37. The Rockefeller Republicans, aka the Northeastern elites/rich of the GOP, did not like competing against American Jewry in business. So, there was an enmity the leaders of American Jewry, found in what is now the Acela corridor, recognized it and donated/supported politicians accordingly. There was also a fundamental mistrust of the Southern protestants, who were seen to be ignorant, and dangerous to minorities. They also saw the Democrat party from an Eastern, non-Bull Connor/Byrd, perspective. Stevenson, JFK, and the like were the “true” party to them.

    Now, decades after history has been entirely clear when it comes to supporting their religious rights and support for Israel (the GOP is their natural home), they’ve become like any fat and happy group og folks: They do not want to be bothered by some problem so far away. It is staggering to me that scarcely a peep is being raised at the practical banishment of Jewry fro France and europe, generally.

    However, never, ever, ever, ever, underestimate the ability of humans to rationalize and justify evils elsewhere when they have it real good and easy at home. American Jewry, collectively, is shameful. Never again? Screw them. If they don’t want to even speak to atrocities against their own people, or vote using secret ballots for leaders who would fight for Israel and their own religious rights? Screw them hard.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  38. Well, they did kill sweet little black baby Jesus. They and them Eyetalians with their long garlicky noses.

    Just kidding. Is there any part of Obama’s foreign policy that has not turned out to be a fustercluck? From the Ukraine to Honduras and points in-between?

    nk (dbc370)

  39. I don’t like Hillario. I detest Tiny Donnie.

    nk (dbc370)

  40. I remember, years ago, when Safeway introduced their “Scotch Buy” brand of generic products, wondering why this ethnic slight was kosher, but a Jewish-demeaning equivalent would have raised national outrage. Non-whites, liberals and others make reflexive derogatory comments about whites with impunity, yet scream bloody murder if they perceive even the slightest micro-slight.

    I think it is double-standards like this that are part of what motivates Trump supporters.

    ThOR (df0186)

  41. 25… There he is with his Tourette’s kicking in again. Yes, James Baker was less than stellar. How about these last 7 years, nk?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  42. When this ridiculous sore-loser project collapses from irrelevance, please make a post to let us know. Don’t just stop sending emails and making posts about it.

    Mr Black (3efb66)

  43. good luck with that

    obama gave iran nukes remember

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/7/2016 @ 2:44 pm

    Dude, you got any idea at all just how potent the IDF is? If we got into it with them, we might win, but it would be one hell of a fight. The Israelis are wary of Iran, but I don’t think for a moment they’re scared.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  44. ok remember march’s consumer spending numbers right?

    they sucked america’s ass

    Consumer spending rose less than forecast in March, wrapping up the weakest quarter in a year for the biggest part of the U.S. economy even as incomes accelerated.

    Purchases picked up 0.1 percent after a revised 0.2 percent gain in February, Commerce Department figures showed Friday.

    ok so what did we learn about consumer behavior in march yesterday?

    U.S. consumers sharply increased use of their credit cards in March, pushing up total borrowing at the fastest pace in more than a decade.

    The Federal Reserve reported Friday that total consumer borrowing rose $29.7 billion in March, a 10 percent jump from the previous month. It was the largest percentage gain since a surge of 18.4 percent in November 2001, when consumer borrowing surged in response to government officials urging Americans to boost spending to support the economy following the September terrorist attacks.

    Total borrowing rose to a fresh record of $3.59 trillion. Borrowing in the category that includes credit cards jumped $11.1 billion, or 14.2 percent, the biggest one-month gain in this category since July 2000.

    we got the biggest jump in credit card usage in 17 freaking years

    tell me that’s not insanely weird

    happyfeet (831175)

  45. israel has nukes, they don’t want to have to use them if needs must.

    narciso (732bc0)

  46. Mr. H in 2006 the IDF got sent home to their mama

    happyfeet (831175)

  47. ThOR @41, I put it down to sympathy for the underdog. Like Mark will tell you, America is notoriously compassionate for compassion’s sake.

    nk (dbc370)

  48. Mr. H in 2006 the IDF got sent home to their mama

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/7/2016 @ 7:00 pm

    And in 1967 they beat the combined forces of virtually the entire Middle East. Remember the 6 Day War? You know, the one where they rested on the seventh? Your point?

    Look at their current leadership. You might be stupid enough to do it, but I would not want to screw with Bibi.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  49. yeah and failmerica beat the whole axis not long before that

    since then though

    meh

    happyfeet (831175)

  50. Obama has tried it and gotten his ass handed to him a couple of times.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  51. yeah and failmerica beat the whole axis not long before that

    since then though

    meh

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/7/2016 @ 7:16 pm

    So you didn’t have a point, you just felt like popping off like the smartass you ususlly are. Quelle surprise.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  52. no Mr. H it’s a serious point

    IDF capabilities have seriously degraded

    and now Obama gave Iran nukes

    this is not a good situation

    happyfeet (831175)

  53. we need another word for chutzpah,

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/like-too-many-jewish-londoners-i-know-how-discrimination-feels/

    ah susan rice, how did I forget her.

    narciso (732bc0)

  54. Many police departments have a bigger vehicle called “The Paddy Wagon,” which takes it’s name from the horse-drawn wagon that transported the lower/working class rowdy Irish drunks to “the drunk tank” where they’d either sleep off their intoxication or get booked for disorderly conduct or whatever.
    Naturally, the outraged left wing politically correct crowd has spent about .0000000001% of their energy fighting this stereotype. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  55. #44 Bill H, I share your great admiration and support for the IDF. But I would submit that they do fear Iran, simply because Iran has an enormous standing army. It’s just a matter of numbers. Also, the Israelis know the Mullahs are psychotic and might do anything. At least with, say, the Soviets, we know that they didn’t believe there were 76 virgins awaiting them in heaven if they died in a nuclear exchange. Mutual assured destruction was a deterrent for the Soviets, whereas, mutually assured destruction is almost an aspiration of the Mullahs.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  56. America is notoriously compassionate for compassion’s sake.

    nk, ah-ha! That’s another one of your comments through the months that has made me wonder what makes you tick, in this instance where you show resentment at my pointing out the reality of hollow, two-faced compassion—at a more absurd point today than ever before. But that’s okay. Many people are misled by their inner-liberal voice, so you’re not exactly an outlier.

    Ronald Reagan’s biggest blunder of his presidency occurred when he allowed his inner-liberal to get the better of him, by turning against his own publicly stated (and attitudinally conservative) stance and secretly bargaining with hostage-taking Iran.

    BTW, I don’t single out only a portion of America for being guilty of cheap compassion for compassion’s sake (which has incubated political correctness run amok), but much of modern Western civilization in general.

    Mark (b2a63a)

  57. Well, those with some Scot in their background that I know are proud to be thought of as thrifty and not wasteful,
    and Bill Bennett, Irish himself, is happy to quite the story about the Irishman walking down the street coming to meet up with two fellows in a fight, and asking, “Is this personal, or can anyone join in?”

    So, is it that some are willing to admit a bit of truth,
    or too stupid to be microaggressionized?

    My aunt, from the coal fields of KY, always said she identified with Ellie Mae on the Beverly Hillbillies,
    I never thought of it as an insult growing up, Buddy Ebsen after all played the character with the most sense and integrity of the whole lot.
    And bankers were negatively stereotyped as well.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  58. fwiw, never assume to take what nk says too seriously on face value without examination,
    he just might be saying something outrageous for outrageous sake.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  59. bald01 (f38852) — 5/7/2016 @ 12:57 pm

    Yes. This is the #1 campaign promise of the rational conservative populist movement.
    The movement, that if we could identify the correct candidate and had adequate funding,
    would win the November election as a third party.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  60. yes, that was jim baker,

    His name came to me yesterday when I was pondering the Iran-Contra scandal and, in particular, James Baker taking a Bible, signed by Reagan, to the mullahs in Iran as a gesture of the White House’s good will and peace. I was thinking, even more in retrospect of post-9-l1 and jihadism to the hilt, how amazingly naive and foolish that was on his part. Only the idiocy and amorality of, yes, left-leaning instincts would make a person believe such an approach made sense, where that person both insults his hosts and, in turn, be-clowns himself when going through the motions.

    Folks like Baker probably believe Palestinians deserve sympathy and lots of benefit of the doubt — and just the opposite for the Israelis — the same way that some folks believe that hardened criminals wouldn’t have led a life of brutality if their mothers had received more publicly funded healthcare, nicer Section-8 housing and access to better-funded public schools.

    Mark (b2a63a)

  61. The problem with the cultural validation of victim status for the few is that it conflicts with another deeply held cultural principle: the equality of all men. Yes, sympathy for the underdog plays an important and, I think, worthy cultural bias. Unfortunately, sympathy for the underdog has morphed into an often sickening competition for recognition. Because victimhood status confers both valuable tangible rewards, as well as forgiveness/validation of otherwise unacceptable behavior, everybody wants in on the action.

    ThOR (df0186)

  62. MD in Philly,

    I was also a bit curious about whether a Scot would find anything offensive (other than using the name for whiskey) about the connotation for thrift. It’s not as if they’re not used to things getting rough when faced with a similar situation where thrift coupled with very serious endeavor rub natives of a different faith rather raw either. I doubt whether any nation on the Med has ever been short of epithets regarding competitors from other trading nations in the past three thousand or so years.

    It started well before the grossly unfair tactics of the wily Greeks impinged upon the profits of the courageous and honorable Phoenicians.

    Rick Ballard (44b7ba)

  63. I have a strong liberal streak, Mark. Not libertarian, although I have a strong streak of that too. Liberal. Like the ACLU and the NAACP. I try not to be too Progressive because I see how it disguises authoritarianism, but I respect it as Wilson’s attempt to find an inoculation against outright Bolshevism. Now you have my confession and you did not even have to show me the instruments. Man, you’re good. If they had you at Gitmo, they wouldn’t need waterboarding.

    nk (dbc370)

  64. Well Rick,
    I only know the impressions from my family, others may feel very different.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  65. #44 Bill H, I share your great admiration and support for the IDF. But I would submit that they do fear Iran, simply because Iran has an enormous standing army. It’s just a matter of numbers. Also, the Israelis know the Mullahs are psychotic and might do anything. At least with, say, the Soviets, we know that they didn’t believe there were 76 virgins awaiting them in heaven if they died in a nuclear exchange. Mutual assured destruction was a deterrent for the Soviets, whereas, mutually assured destruction is almost an aspiration of the Mullahs.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 5/7/2016 @ 7:32 pm

    Almost true on all that. I don’t think it’s a matter of fear, but rather keeping a hairy eyeball on Iran. Even with as insane as the mullahs are feeling, they HAD to pay attention when Bibi basically told Obama to go pound sand, they were stepping up to DEFCON2, now do something about it. Not only did Obama back off, you haven’t heard “boo!” from the mullahs towards Israel since. I really do believe that Israel stands to kick some serious ass, in a nuclear manner if need be. A large standing army doesn’t mean much if it’s a pile of ash.

    I hope it doesn’t come to that. The Israelis have said repeatedly “Never again”. Looking at anti-semitism through the millennia, culminating tn the Shoah I get it, and I back it 100%.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  66. narciso (732bc0) — 5/7/2016 @ 7:26 pm

    Can’t say I was aware of that particular horror.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  67. narciso (732bc0) — 5/7/2016 @ 7:26 pm

    I knew about it, but I need to go back and actually read that. Looks like a very detailed account.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  68. That link proves once again that the Nazis were rip-off artists of the first rank. Not an original idea between them.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  69. the source of their plan is different then has been mentioned before,

    narciso (732bc0)

  70. The LEFT hates Jews, because the LEFT always sides AGAINST, goodness and decency. They don’t even know why anymore. The LEFT are fools, let by Charlatans who USE FOOLS for their own gain.
    I know this because. Ahhh don’t feel in no ways tahhhred. I carry Hot Sauce in my purse, etc etc etc. The LEFT is bereft of any morality. It’s about lashing out and gaining power.

    GUS (30b6bd)

  71. I think that the Pat Buchanans and James Bakers whom nk alluded to in #25 probably have long held Israel in contempt as “payback” for American Jews overwhelmingly voting Democrat since WW2. It’s quite disgusting.

    Nah, they were antisemites from childhood, long before they became aware of Jewish voting patterns, and probably long before they became Republicans. Buchanan was raised to hate the christ-killers; I don’t know Baker’s story, but it’s probably similar.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  72. Mr. H in 2006 the IDF got sent home to their mama

    Yes, not by Hizballah but by their real enemy — their legal and judicial establishment, which is firmly leftist, and now controls the government and the IDF.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  73. And in 1967 they beat the combined forces of virtually the entire Middle East. Remember the 6 Day War? You know, the one where they rested on the seventh? Your point?

    Look at their current leadership. You might be stupid enough to do it, but I would not want to screw with Bibi.

    That was then. Their current leadership isn’t anything like those people. Those people were communist bastards, but they beleived in their own right to exist, and were willing to do whatever it took to keep on existing. Bibi has no backbone, and the sad thing is that he’s the best option that sick political system seems capable of producing.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  74. The View From The Curb…..

    34 – ThOR: In today’s world, “Character” has been supplanted by “Celebrity”.

    61 – MD: (add on “nk”) …and he could be in his cups.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  75. The Republican Party is coming apart at the seams because our leadership has ignors the wishes of the base and, instead, caters to special interests with only a pecuniary interest in GOP politics. I’m angry about it; we’re all angry about it. When Ted Cruz stands up and defends an agenda that refocuses party efforts on the interests of the base, we applaud. When Donald Trump does it, he gets the nomination. On the topic of defending the interests of party regulars, we are all for it.

    But when James Baker reminds the President that supporting Israel expends precious Republican capital on what many Republicans see as a distinctly Democratic issue, he is painted as the worst kind of bigot. In the political realm, where pay-to-play is king, Baker’s perspective reflects nothing more than political reality. You may favor American support of Israel – I am a staunch supporter myself – but I would never consider a contrary view like Baker’s to be anything but the conventional wisdom. Baker’s perspective may seem amoral, but a party establishment that brushes aside the wishes of the base – as we have all seen – is no less moral.

    ThOR (df0186)

  76. I don’t like Hillario. I detest Tiny Donnie.

    nk (dbc370) — 5/7/2016 @ 6:38 pm

    So move to Canada.

    The Klondike beckons. They have a shortage of dill holes up there.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  77. No, this is my country. I claim ownership and I don’t want it polluted. You want a Slovenian cathouse, move to Slovenia.

    nk (dbc370)

  78. 80.No, this is my country. I claim ownership and I don’t want it polluted.

    Really? So where do you stand on immigration? Specifically second and third world immigration.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  79. Two parts:
    1) We must have complete control of our borders. We determine who and what comes in.
    2) We permit, or not permit, people to come in as it may please us and suit our purposes and goals from time to time.

    As far as “second and third world”, machts nichts. If we want Mexican grape pickers, we let in Mexican grape pickers. If we want Nigerian cab drivers, we let in Nigerian cab drivers. If we want Slovenian “models”, we let in Slovenian “models”.

    nk (dbc370)

  80. There’s a good argument that immigration should be based strictly on labor needs (wasn’t it under the Department of Labor at one time?), but I, personally, have no strong aversion to our American boys marrying them there foreign women and bringing them here as long as they don’t go on welfare. Same for spouses and minor children of immigrants as long as they don’t become public charges. Parents, siblings and other family members of immigrants is a different matter. They should not be allowed to piggyback but evaluated for admission on their own merits.

    nk (dbc370)

  81. I have to point out nk, that we do have control of our borders. The current administration has determined exactly “who and what comes in”: people in poverty, those looking to get on our generous welfare programs, criminals, drug runners, gun runners, gangs, people with diseases from syphilis to tuberculosis, the insane, pregnant women looking to “cash in” on an anchor baby, and of course criminals. We can add to that Islamists including their ideology and the terrorists it spawns. In other words socialists and future democrat voters or as I call them societal net negatives.

    Therefore, I assume you mean tighter control of our borders. Perhaps establishing a guide line for admittance. That would be refreshing over the current system of chaos. Unfortunately that would require the setting of standards and if there is one thing the left and their accomplices in the law and courts can’t abide is standards. Standards require judgments, discrimination, inequalities. We can’t have that.

    Now, at the risk of being labeled white trash I have no clue what you mean by “machts nichts”. If we want Mexican grape pickers, then we should let in Mexican grape pickers, when every single American capable of picking grapes is off the welfare rolls and not a minute before. Same thing with Nigerian cab drivers. I see no reason American taxpayers should be expected to support people on welfare when the government can put them into gainful employment ahead of any immigrants. Slovenian models are welcome since they don’t come in on welfare nor take American’s jobs, usually earn six figures and pay taxes. But even here we don’t need 45 million Slovenian models.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  82. “Machts nichts” is “makes no difference”. German, and I thought it had made its way into American English like latke and kielbasa. Your question was “Specifically second and third world immigration”. It makes no difference where they come from.

    The rest is policy. I’m fine with a zero immigration policy, if that’s what we want. As long as we’re doing what we want and people are not just sneaking in. And I’m fine with it being based on our labor needs, with very small exceptions for spouses and minor children. I thought I said that.

    nk (dbc370)

  83. Meh! That’s now way to start a Sunday. All judgmental. Here’s Melania in a thong. http://gq-images.condecdn.net/image/17ejMz3wxlg/crop/810

    nk (dbc370)

  84. Happy Mothers Day.

    mg (31009b)

  85. Happy, happy… Joy, joy… http://youtu.be/mLDDxfFKd9Y

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  86. So move to Canada.

    The Klondike beckons. They have a shortage of dill holes up there.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/8/2016 @ 1:36 am

    Why don’t you take that and stick it up your ass, Papertiger. It appears to be large enough.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  87. Happy, happy… Joy, joy…

    I was expecting Stinky Wizzleteats, and you give me Eric Clapton. You’re pretty good at this clickbait thing. :)

    Bill H (971e5f)

  88. It makes no difference where they come from.

    Actually, it does make a difference where they come from. A very big difference. That’s what I meant by :”Unfortunately that would require the setting of standards and if there is one thing the left and their accomplices in the law and courts can’t abide is standards. Standards require judgments, discrimination, inequalities. We can’t have that.”

    Just like you want to live in a good neighborhood, associate with people of good character or have your kids marry good people, it makes a very big difference what kind of people we allow to immigrate. We can take the trash of the world, the criminals, the ignorant and totally impoverished, the sickly or those who just want to hurt or destroy us. Or we can be picky, like you would when buying a house, seeking a mate or choosing a profession. One way insures we get the worst the world has to offer the other way guides us toward the best. I like the best.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  89. That was then. Their current leadership isn’t anything like those people. Those people were communist bastards, but they beleived in their own right to exist, and were willing to do whatever it took to keep on existing. Bibi has no backbone, and the sad thing is that he’s the best option that sick political system seems capable of producing.

    Milhouse (87c499) — 5/7/2016 @ 11:38 pm

    I don’t think I could call them Communist. Bastards, yes. Socialists, perhaps. But far too many of them understood what Communism was all about in all it’s various flavors.

    I’m willing to hear what you say, so honest question, what makes Bibi so bad in your eyes?

    Bill H (971e5f)

  90. In tune again, Col.
    nice.

    mg (31009b)

  91. Happy Mothers Day greetings to Barack, the biggest mutha of them all!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  92. I don’t think I could call them Communist. Bastards, yes. Socialists, perhaps. But far too many of them understood what Communism was all about in all it’s various flavors.

    You really don’t get Jews at all, especially European Jews. They sure understood communism since it was they who invented it, supported it and spread it around. How many early Bolsheviks and supporters were Jews and Jewish “intellectuals” (a term never bestowed upon conservatives only leftists can be “intellectuals” or “artists”)? You seem to separate socialists from communists when socialism is just one step on the path to communism. It’s like saying there is a big difference between a Presbyterian and a Methodist.

    Rev. Hoagie ™ (734193)

  93. the hill says that as long as pee-stank and humador’s stories match failmerica’s corrupt fbi pansies are gonna let her skate

    The trick for Clinton, he said, will be to make sure that her story lines up with the testimony provided by her aides.

    seems like an exceedingly low bar for pee-stank

    happyfeet (831175)

  94. the fbi poofterboys are probably already coaching her on her answers

    happyfeet (831175)

  95. Baker’s perspective may seem amoral, but a party establishment that brushes aside the wishes of the base – as we have all seen – is no less moral.

    It’s less his amorality per se that’s the problem, as much as it’s his peculiar form of left-leaning sappiness that’s the problem. Of course, I may be assessing his gut response to Palestine and Israel incorrectly, but I have a hunch that his antipathy to the latter is based on his being a fool over the concept of underdog and applying that label to the former. If so, he perceives Palestinians as sad, poor, struggling, downtrodden people — deserving of a heap of compassion — up against smug, successful, big-meanie Israel.

    Or perhaps he’s guilty of another type of nonsensical reaction that I’ve noticed among a variety of very anti-Semitic people. They’ll snipe about and obsess over “Jew, Jew, Jew,” but seem to lose their ardor and interest when extending that anger to the matter of liberal or conservative. So a Jew who’s conservative will be of no greater importance or value to them (or any different from) than a Jew who’s liberal or leftwing.

    By contrast, the current glorious occupant of the Oval Office told the graduating class of Howard University this week to “be proud of your blackness.” But I bet he would have said just the opposite of that if he knew the students he were addressing happened to be mainly staunch socio-economic conservatives—who also just so happened to be black. In that case, he’d have struggled not to use the label “Uncle Tom.” Incidentally, that’s the exact same phrase used by the new leftist mayor of London, England — who’s Islamic — towards moderate people of the Islamic faith.

    Liberal bias makes people fools and phonies.

    Mark (b2a63a)

  96. everyone knows Jim Baker hates him some jew

    it makes him a go-to person for a lot of really lucrative gigs in washington

    he drives a very nice car

    happyfeet (831175)

  97. The left hates Jews because Jews represent the repudiation of all the excuses crybully apologists insist are responsible for the failure of American Blacks and Hispanics to prosper. Jews came here tired, broke, and uneducated. They worked hard, suffered harsh prejudice, prospered in the few occupations open to them, and sent their children to college to become professionals.

    Too many Blacks and Hispanics languish on government largess living their lives in poverty, broken homes, misery, and crime, while Jews quickly joined mainstream America. The left hates Jews because they prove that no matter how difficult the road to success that hard work and strong family values opens the door to the American Dream.

    ropelight (697bc5)

  98. Rev.Hoagie, that Karl Marx father had converted to Lutheranism and Marx himself wrote one of the classic pieces of anti-Semitic propaganda slows you not one whit from repeating your own slurs, I see.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  99. Perhaps both you and Sammy are right, Rev- I need to reevaluate how I see Judaism. I’m getting too many respectable messages pointing me in a different direction.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  100. Jewishpress.com, October 2014: Moreover, [James] Baker made little secret of his contempt for Israel. According to the late former editor of the Jerusalem Post, David Bar-Illan, Baker once stated, “Don’t worry, Jews remember the Holocaust, but they forget insults as soon as they smell cash” ( New York Post, March 6, 1992).

    As for one of the heroes of the Democrat Party and liberalism:

    latimes.com, April 2013: In 1923, as a member of the Harvard board of directors, Roosevelt decided there were too many Jewish students at the college and helped institute a quota to limit the number admitted. In 1938, he privately suggested that Jews in Poland were dominating the economy and were therefore to blame for provoking anti-Semitism there. In 1941, he remarked at a Cabinet meeting that there were too many Jews among federal employees in Oregon. In 1943, he told government officials in Allied-liberated North Africa that the number of local Jews in various professions “should be definitely limited” so as to “eliminate the specific and understandable complaints which the Germans bore towards the Jews in Germany.”

    There is evidence of other troubling private remarks by FDR too, including dismissing pleas for Jewish refugees as “Jewish wailing” and “sob stuff”; expressing (to a senator) his pride that “there is no Jewish blood in our veins”; and characterizing a tax maneuver by a Jewish newspaper publisher as “a dirty Jewish trick.”

    Roosevelt’s vice-president, Harry Truman — who penned letters and vocalized comments that’d make a Klu Klux Klanner blush — had an interview with film producer David Susskind in the 1960s that was restricted to the front porch of Truman’s home in Missouri. Susskind, puzzled by the lack of hospitality, was told by Truman that his wife Bess didn’t allow Jews into their residence.

    In the 21st century, growing numbers of the left, in a strange marriage with Islamism, are showing signs of forgetting the past—and are consequently doomed to repeat it.

    Mark (b2a63a)

  101. I have to point out nk, that we do have control of our borders.

    No, we don’t. That’s the problem.

    The current administration has determined exactly “who and what comes in”: people in poverty, those looking to get on our generous welfare programs, criminals, drug runners, gun runners, gangs, people with diseases from syphilis to tuberculosis, the insane, pregnant women looking to “cash in” on an anchor baby, and of course criminals. We can add to that Islamists including their ideology and the terrorists it spawns.

    This is not whom they are admitting; this is who is coming anyway, whether they like it or not. Their choice to “admit” these people is like the king in The Little Prince who orders the sun to rise and set at the times when the laws of physics require it to do so.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  102. I don’t think I could call them Communist. Bastards, yes. Socialists, perhaps. But far too many of them understood what Communism was all about in all it’s various flavors.

    Some of them were outright communists, most were socialists, which means communists who’ve compromised with reality, but they were all from the same consciencelessfar-leftist mold. Mapam, Mapai, it was like the differences between the Calabrian and Sicilian mafias.

    I’m willing to hear what you say, so honest question, what makes Bibi so bad in your eyes?

    He talks a pretty talk but has no spine. Every time he comes under the slightest pressure he caves. When he saw that opposing Oslo had become unpopular, he decided to embrace it, and to this day is committed to the “two-state solution”. When he was elected, the first thing he did was give Hevron away. Nobody forced him, but he found it expedient, so to hell with principles. His willingness to give away the Golan at Wye is now well-documented. Et cetera ad nauseam. He talks a pretty game, but Olmert gave a wonderful speech too, the first day of that war, and then did the exact opposite of what he said he’d do.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  103. Jews didn’t invent communism, but they were in the vanguard of that movement just as they are in the vanguard of almost every intellectual movement, from left to right.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  104. But when James Baker reminds the President that supporting Israel expends precious Republican capital on what many Republicans see as a distinctly Democratic issue,

    That’s just the problem. Israel is not a Democratic issue, it’s an American issue. The reason to support Israel is because it’s the right thing to do, not in the hope of attracting Jewish votes and/or money. But Baker doesn’t see it that way, because he’s an antisemite.

    Milhouse (87c499)


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