Trump Still Hasn’t Paid Veterans the Charity Money
Trump campaign’s adviser for veterans issues can’t account for $6 million raised for veterans charities by the billionaire—and from the sounds of it, couldn’t care less.
“I could ask, but it’s not high on my priority list,” Al Baldasaro, a New Hampshire state representative, told The Daily Beast.
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Questions have lingered about whether that money has actually been dispense[d] to those charities—since the fundraiser, numerous media organizations have investigated whether the charities have received the $6 million. The investigations span the ideological spectrum: the progressive MSNBC and the conservative Weekly Standard have been unable to find all the funds; as have The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, CNN, and The Daily Beast.
The money simply hasn’t been found.
In early March, CNN was able to track down $2.9 million, citing the Trump campaign. In early April, The Wall Street Journal traced $2.4 million of the promised funds.
What these investigations have yielded is a solid conclusion that, thus far, Donald Trump and his nonprofit have dispensed, at maximum, about half of the $6 million to the listed beneficiaries. Nearly three months—85 days—have passed since the fundraiser.
“I don’t track that,” Baldasaro told The Daily Beast. “I’m not concerned about it, because I know [Trump is] an honorable, honest guy… you guys just want to say, ‘gotcha.’”
Baldasaro tried to minimize his responsibility in the issue, saying that “it’s not that I’m the lead veterans adviser” or a paid staffer. But then he later acknowledged that he’s “the only one that talks about veterans for Trump.”
“It’s not high on my priority list,” he said, when pressed on why he didn’t account for the $6 million in order to put the issue to rest. “I agree with you on looking into it. I just wish I had a little more time… My veterans constituents have never asked us that question.”
He’ll give them the money as soon as he turns over his tax returns.
Never.
Ding.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 4/23/2016 @ 6:34 pmOne would think the establishment morons on the right would have multiple voices pointing this out to the mfm.
mg (31009b) — 4/23/2016 @ 7:06 pmTrumpswabs don’t give a damn about the military.
The MFM is saving this in case, God forbid, Trump gets the nomination. If he does not, it will be forgotten, because their attention will be on Cruz. As for Baldasaro, he may be from New Hampshire but his playbook is New York. Vinnie Barbarino “values”.
nk (dbc370) — 4/23/2016 @ 7:17 pmIt used to be patriotic to fight for benefits owed veterans.
Now, Veterans Lives Matter?
Not so much.
Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 4/23/2016 @ 7:19 pmNo, that was your boyfriend, Perry. You’re past due for your cataract surgery.
nk (dbc370) — 4/23/2016 @ 7:45 pmHmm. Perry really does get his kicks from talking dirty and getting people to yell at him. Do you do it on the phone too, Perry? Make random obscene phone calls?
nk (dbc370) — 4/23/2016 @ 7:53 pmAgain, there must be a WordPress add-on for rejecting VPN connections. Who would use them but trolls?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/23/2016 @ 7:56 pmI wonder if he shows up at Breitbart talking trash about Trump?
Marginal personality disorder.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/23/2016 @ 7:57 pmted cruz=sexual deviate. he is the definition of the word pervert!
billlory (7649f4) — 4/23/2016 @ 8:00 pmThere are people who give to charity and tell no one. There are people who tell everyone and don’t really give.
Donald T Sterling was a classic case of the latter — he would take out full page ads in the LA Times to announce his Man-of-the-Year gala to regale himself for giving $100K to some phony charity run by a relative.
Which kind of guy is Trump?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/23/2016 @ 8:03 pmbillory/Perry,
There are other websites where your prurient interest in trannies will be better served. All you need is a credit card.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/23/2016 @ 8:41 pmSo Trump allegedly collected 6 mil but has only distributed 3 mil to veteran’s charities.
Allegedly collected 6 mil on a one night event, which doubled as a protest against Fox.
Why is “allegedly” included in there?
Could it be that some of the audience, in the flush of the moment… I mean there aren’t people rolling up with brief cases of cash to dump in the collection plate…
We’re talking about people pledging they will send a check for such and such amount by such and such time…
Where’s the beef?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 4/23/2016 @ 9:18 pmThe reason Donald Trump feels free to defraud donors intending to give money to veterans, is because people like papertiger don’t care when he does.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 4/23/2016 @ 9:23 pmNo. I question your sort of squiggy definition of “defraud”.
It’s a cloudy defuse nebulosity the way you present it.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 4/23/2016 @ 9:35 pmThat was almost happyfeetish in its willful opacity.
Simon Jester (28b37e) — 4/23/2016 @ 10:21 pmpapertiger, you’re the wife who tells the cop she “fell down the stairs”—rather than that her husband actually hit her.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/23/2016 @ 10:38 pmFell down 16 flights of stairs in their 2 story home…
John Hitchcock (8c6708) — 4/23/2016 @ 11:02 pmtrumpswabs are pathetic. Our servicemen deserve better than a ego lying a-hole.
mg (31009b) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:55 amTrump claims he wants to help Americans (especially veterans) but his actions don’t back up his words. He’s spent years watching politicians milk the government and donors for personal gain at our expense. He doesn’t want to stop it. He wants his share.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:45 amIn fact, Trump has spent years donating to politicians. He’s itching to get his share.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:51 amThe most depressing thing about Trump isn’t that he’s just another lying, greedy politicuan . There are plenty of them around. What’s depressing is that Trump proves that 30%-40% of Republicans are as celebrity-obsessed, naive and emotional as Democrats.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:56 amAnd laughing at his supporters for being such rubes, DRJ.
Simon Jester (28b37e) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:29 amThe Mr Donald found a way to deliver money to Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuckie Schumer. But if you’re a a creditor, a vendor, a military veteran, or an Eastern European model, he screws you.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:44 amThis is all part of making America great again.
Like the joke goes, it’s more about making our nation grate.
Simon Jester (28b37e) — 4/24/2016 @ 8:08 amHow do you think Trump is paying his new advisor Paul Manafort. It’s certainly not comming out of his pocket.
Worc1 (0462e4) — 4/24/2016 @ 8:15 amThe Mr Donald found a way to deliver money to Hillary Clinton
He’s one of those quasi-Republicans or socio-political independents who votes for crud like Hillary if the alternative name on a ballot doesn’t totally please or suit them. One of the billionaire Koch brothers is hinting that a vote for Sniper-fire Clinton isn’t necessarily all that bad. That’s why I don’t see how the outcome in November will avoid a split that gives the election to the Democrat.
The only possibility such ballot splitting won’t occur is if a good portion of the left responds in its own way towards the divide between Bill’s wife and Bernie. But liberals tolerate various forms of corruption — traditional and ideological — far more than conservatives do, so the disunity among them isn’t as great.
Ted Cruz is the best of the four candidates, but a combination of these factors will make it nearly (or totally) impossible for him to win in November. That’s why even more of America’s chicken are coming home to roost.
Pathetic.
Mark (2fd21b) — 4/24/2016 @ 8:25 amThe Hairy Reed has snagged a commenter here with his Tenth Commandment-violating Kochphobia. Disgusting, to say the least.
In short, Mark, you can take your Koch and shove it up your puwet.
John Hitchcock (d2a36c) — 4/24/2016 @ 8:42 amSo Trump allegedly collected 6 mil but has only distributed 3 mil to veteran’s charities.
Allegedly collected 6 mil on a one night event, which doubled as a protest against Fox.
Why is “allegedly” included in there?
Could it be that some of the audience, in the flush of the moment… I mean there aren’t people rolling up with brief cases of cash to dump in the collection plate…
We’re talking about people pledging they will send a check for such and such amount by such and such time…
Where’s the beef?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 4/23/2016 @ 9:18 pm
Trump supporters insist that regardless of his lack of experience in anything government or military, his leadership skills in building a yuuuuge business worth many billions of dollars qualify him to be the nation’s Chief Executive and Commander-in-Chief. On the other hand, I and others have been saying for almost a year now that Trump is con artist who just says whatever the hell he has to to dominate the news cycle for the next 48 hours.
Which take on Trump makes more sense after listening to Baldasaro?
L.N. Smithee (d3752a) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:01 amDonald Trump could shoot a disabled holder of the Congressional Medal on 5th Ave in broad daylight and his supporters would find reasons for why he did it.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:04 amthere was way too much cheering crying wailing in these environs surrounding the insipid puerile planned parenthood propaganda for people to be doing the criticism on naive and emotional republicans i think
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:05 amHe would just say the guy was selling “loosies” Kevin M. It’s those New York values everybody is all defensive about.
Hoagie ™ (e4fcd6) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:19 amif you have to pick between Mr. Trump being not transparent on the donations and the sleazy sleazy Bush Klan hiding 28-pages telling about all the perverted saudi royal terrorist trash on their christmas card list what got caught up in the 9/11 slaughter
i would pick Mr. Trump
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:32 amDidn’t Trump raise this “six million” just on January 28th? If so, then why is the expectation that it all would have been disbursed by now? I’ve read a lot of articles on this, and none of them have any sort of context on how long is a reasonable amount time.
This what I think is the most likely explanation: Trump as usual shot his mouth off and had no real plan for where the money should go. Suppose he had given out the money all on the first night, and let’s say 25% of that money went to fraudulent groups or groups that spent too much money on salaries and perks like Wounded Warrior Project. Wouldn’t we now be seeing articles with headlines like “Little of Trump’s $6 million helps veterans”?
So given that he never made any sort of plan with what to do with the money, and he probably doesn;t have any staff just for that, and given that we don’t even know it was as much as $6 million, I’d say it’s not surprising at all that it hasn’t all been disbursed.
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:38 amyes yes yes this is just carping from the sad people supporting second-ballot harvardtrash ted who never did a charitable contribution his whole life
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:40 amThe choice isn’t between Bush and Trump but if it were then I would pick Bush. His goal was to protect America from Al Qaeda, and we could use the Saudis to do that. Trump’s goal is to make hinself rich.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:40 amHere’s a contemporaneous article from Reuters showing that Trump was just shooting his mouth off and had no idea where he wanted the money to go. Given that I don’t think it’s unreasonable that it’s not all spent after three months.
…as the clock ticked closer to the start of Trump’s veteran event, neither Trump nor his dedicated donation website had specified where exactly any funds raised would go or how they would be used. And of the 12 charities that Reuters was able to contact, none said that they were aware of any offer from Trump or his campaign staff to become the recipient of the funds, as of Thursday afternoon.
To be sure, Trump is under no requirement whatsoever – legal or otherwise – to choose the recipient of the donations prior to collecting them. He could decide a month or even a year from now. It’s his choice.
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:43 ambush protected Saudi Arabia from themselves for so his rich bush klan friends could stay in good with the filthy saudis
then for to do misdirection he sent a bunch of americans to get slaughtered fecklessly in Iraq to the tune of an almost impossible amount of monies
a sad failed useless hyper-expensive humiliating defeat failmerica certainly isn’t going to have paid off in our lifetimes
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:44 am@DRJ:His goal was to protect America from Al Qaeda, and we could use the Saudis to do that.
Farmers routinely use foxes to guard henhouses, I hear. Given the large amount that Saudis gave to, and still give, to Al Qaeda I don’t find this very convincing.
Trump’s goal is to make himself rich.
Well, this is hardly a bad thing, but it’s not true. Trump’s goal is to give the illusion of being rich, and live the lifestyle of being rich, without actually having to do any of the hard work that most people who got rich had to do, and it’s hard to argue he’s not succeeded at this.
Hillary Clinton’s goal has also been to become rich, and she has, but in a much shadier way.
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:46 amGabriel,
Charity watchdog organizations have clearly stated the funds should have been disbursed by now because the veterans groups had already been named and vetted:
This statement was from March 9. It was true then and it’s even more true 45 days later.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:50 amHow better to get rich without working than as a corrupt politician?
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:51 amThe Middle East is a den of foxes. Do you really think we could have fought them all after 9/11, without any bases?
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:53 am@DRJ: Again, a quote with no context. It’s not like Charity Navigator provided any statistics or anything. And when she says “vetted” by whom? Vetted by Trump’s people? Vetted by Hillary Clinton’s?
How better to get rich without working than as a corrupt politician?
Yep. One of those is in the race. If Trump is the nominee, God forbid, I’ll be voting Trump. How about you? Voting for Hillary? Or staying home and failing to cast a vote against her?
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:55 amthat’s a good point but if that was so important the bush klan would’ve put a higher priority in getting base deals in place for iraq
something they very conspicuously failed to accomplish
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:55 am@DRJ:Do you really think we could have fought them all after 9/11, without any bases?
Every base in the world is in Saudi Arabia?
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:55 amPerhaps Bush’s goal was to ally with a free Iraq, where American forces could be based, and then there could be a day of reckoning with the Saudis. Even America could not take them all on at once, especially whrn we were so dependent on their oil.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:57 amok well that would be fine he just needs to say so
day of reckoning chop chop
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:59 amAmerica can’t effectively fight a war in the Middle East from aircraft carriers and Europe . It would be expensive, difficult, and cost even morelives.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:00 amGabriel Hanna,
Trump is a zillionaire whose main qualification for the White House is that he’s this uber-compentent businessman who makes great deals.
Nobody asked him to go out and solicit funds for vets—he chose to do it on that night because he was too much of a chicken-sh*t to show up to the Iowa debate and field questions from Megyn Kelly. In other words, he manufactured a supreme sense of urgency for soliciting funds. So, the sense of urgency to solicit the funds existed—but not the sense of urgency to dispense the funds.
Wow, that’s really making America great again!
Just remember, nobody cares about our vets more than The Mr Donald—he told us so.
The vets need that money NOW, just as Donald Trump solicited the funds “NOW.”
Defending him by saying, “Well, it’s just goofy Donald being goofy Donald” is not good enough.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:01 amIf he’s not inspired to properly manage a few million dollars for vets, then he’s not inspiring me to entrust him to make all those great deals he’s been thumping his chest about.
I’m voting for Ted Cruz. I hooe he’s the nominee but if he isn’t then I will write him in.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:02 am@DRJ:especially whrn we were so dependent on their oil.
We’re not, and we weren’t in 2001. Half of our oil is domestic, the rest from the Western Hemisphere.
Who are you voting for if Trump is the Republican nominee? I mean you leap to make excuses for the allies and enablers of people who murdered 3000-ish Americans, but Trump wasn’t one of those.
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:03 ami’m not voting this whole tawdry failmerican political clown show is beneath my dignity
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:04 am@DRJ:I hooe he’s the nominee but if he isn’t then I will write him in.
That’s big of you. You won’t object to the Trumpkins doing the same, surely? And it doesn’t bother in the least that you’d be helping Hillary win? How many Democrats you think will write in Bernie?
I’ve heard a lot of talk about how the Trumpkins want to burn it down if they don’t their way but here you are pledging to do that, and you are not alone here. This bothers me a lot. Trump is bringing out the worst in all of us, but he couldn’t do that if we didn’t have it in us to begin with.
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:05 amour dependency on the filthy oil from the deserts of the saudi royal child-molesting perverts (such as it is) is almost entirely a function of how our refineries are configured
Largest U.S. Refinery Now Belongs To Saudi Arabia
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:06 amalleged deserts i mean
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:07 amHow much will Trump make remodeling the whitehouse?
mg (31009b) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:07 amCan you imagine the govt. contracts this nut will be able to hand out?
Holy Cow.
@happyfeet: Let’s not spread lies.
This is where our oil comes from.
We export half as mush as we import, incidentally. What so many people think they know is not true.
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:10 amIt is not a quote without context. It is a quote from someone who works in the charity field, but your statement makes me question that you’ve been following this topic. Trump’s delay has been written about and questioned since late February when nonprofit experts were already ssying the funds should have been disbursed. These veterans charities are established and well-known, so they didn’t need to be vetted the way a new charity might.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:12 amVoting for Hillary? Or staying home and failing to cast a vote against her?
I’m guessing a fairly large number of Republicans will be in either camp, perhaps with more of them voting for Hillary instead of Trump compared with those voting for Hillary instead of Cruz—ie, based on recent opinion polls. A growing weariness of and disgust over the whole mess probably will cause another group of Republicans to sit it out in November.
I don’t know which group puzzles me the most: Trump supporters who dislike Cruz (because of what? He’s too conservative? He’s too conventional?) or Cruz supporters (eg, the Koch brothers?) who find Hillary less objectionable than Trump.
The only way horrible Hillary doesn’t win in November is if ongoing talk about the FBI going against the DOJ and releasing incriminating files on her is valid and does occur. However, only if that info happens to show she personally murdered someone. Even then, since we do live in what’s becoming more and more of an idiocracy (or banana republic), that may not necessarily seal her fate.
Mark (2fd21b) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:12 am@Cruz Supporter:Defending him by saying, “Well, it’s just goofy Donald being goofy Donald” is not good enough.
If he’s not inspired to properly manage a few million dollars for vets, then he’s not inspiring me to entrust him to make all those great deals he’s been thumping his chest about.
True enough. His idea that the US government is somehow going to make all this revenue off trade “deals” as though the government does all the buying and selling, show you how uniformed he is.
For expert knowledge of how government works, as well as expert management of charitable contributions, your top candidate is Hillary Clinton. Which is why she is absolutely disqualified as far as I’m concerned.
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:13 am@DRJ:sine late February
Yeah, they gave him four whole weeks. Trump cannot make you lose your mind. Only you can do that.
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:14 am@Mark: It doesn’t make sense to you because elections are no longer about candidates and policy. They are now just virtue-signaling. Seen from that perspective it all makes sense.
#NeverTrumpkins want to burn it down to show they’re not Trumpkins. Trumpkins want to burn it down to show they’re not cuckservatives. Democrats want to burn it down to show they’re not Republicans.
I’m hoping for the FBI or Bernie too but this is just deus ex machina. The fault lies in ourselves.
Gabriel Hanna (98a034) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:16 am11% is not negligible, and it’s particularly not negligible when the refineries what import that oil are ill-suited for alternatives Mr. Hanna
in September 2001 which was when the Saudis did 9/11 on America we were importing 1478.133 thousand bpd from them
by December 2015 that had only come down to thousand bpd 1121.516 in spite of the huge growth in the shales and the gulf and the horizontals (-24.13%)
this is not negligible
this is year after year after year of sending gigantic buckets of money to a perverted regime that sponsors the same terrorists that did the 9/11 on america
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:21 amThe fault lies in ourselves.
The loud, flashing warning siren of that can be seen in current, ongoing opinion polls that show the current occupant of the White House is receiving fairly decent ratings, with about half of Americans approving of the job he’s doing.
We’ve goddamned ourselves.
Mark (2fd21b) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:23 amUS imports of Saudi crude oil: In 2000-2001, America was importing an average of 1.5M barrels a day from the Saudis, out of total imports of over 9M barrels a day.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:26 amI waited to question what happened to the Trump money until March 12 but the experts who know what’s involved were already questioning Trump.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:31 amGabriel:
I expect them to.
Why are you so snide? You’ve done this before with me. I realize you don’t respect people who disagree with you but it reflects poorly on you, not me.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:35 amAll crude oil is not the same so it is not equally fungible and it can’t be refined at every facility.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:41 amNo truer words were ever spoken, Mark. We goddamed ourselves when we ceded the education establishment and news and entertainment media to the radical left without a whimper. After this election I fully expect a push for government control and censorship of the internet thereby closing the final escape door of Truth.
Hoagie ™ (e4fcd6) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:51 amFirst of all do we have a choice between Bush and Trump? This is purest example of a logically fallacious argument I’ve seen since the last post by a Trumper.
Second, the idea that they are hiding Saudi culpability for 9/11 is a lie that Obama is happy to have in circulation.
Finally the Bush “klan” hasn’t hid anything. That’s the kind thing loony Democrats, Trump and his looney supporters might say. Oh wait.
Gerald A (7c7ffb) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:57 ami always bring the purity Mr. A I never ever scrimp on the purity
failmerica’s dalliance with the perverted saudi trash has horrifically cheapened her already debased ass
it’s not very classy i must say
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:03 amYou also never vote, but you do run your mouth.
Mr. Feet, it’s fine to be an unserious jackwagon. But voting is important.
Especially if you say you care about this country and its citizens.
Simon Jester (28b37e) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:13 amMr happyfeet, why don’t you just admit you prefer the crease in The Mr Donald’s slacks?
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:13 amthe best Team R can do is stop Hillary this year Mr. Jester
this idea that there was some pendulum that would swing from two terms of food stamp’s vile america-rape to second ballot butt-snuffling harvardtrash ted’s chasity belt was always a lil fanciful
people here do not seem very serious about stopping hillary though
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:14 amThe $6 million was a Trumpian boast. Delivering less than half of the boasted figure is actually better than average for the bombastic buffoon. The true value of any utterance by Trumpy the Clown generally never exceeds 10% of the boasted value.
Rick Ballard (4bc02f) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:15 amBut you never do vote, Mr. Feet. So I doubt your commitment to the principles you say you honor.
At the same time, I don’t doubt your commitment to complaining and snark.
Simon Jester (f8d0e6) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:19 amMr happyfeet, The Mr Donald’s never been very serious about stopping Hillary—that’s why he contributed to her 2008 presidential campaign.
Wow, not even John Boehner, or Mitch McConnell, or Paul Ryan, or Peter King, or any of the other alleged “RINOs” stooped to that level.
He was able to see the money found its way to Hillary—but not to the vets. That’s greatness!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:23 amI agree with Rick. WaPo reports Trump has donated half of the promised $6M. Fifty percent collections is the same rate MDA has collected in the post-Jerry Lewis years.
The moral is: They may all mean well, but Trump doesn’t do what he promises and Trump supporters don’t either.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:24 amHowever, it would be nice if Trump and his campaign were more transparent about this. Talking about transparency without being transparent is another way Trump is like Obama.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:26 amWe goddamed ourselves when we ceded the education establishment
Hoagie, closely related to that is what I posted about in the thread on Harriet Tubman.
I don’t see how this society will ever get out of this quagmire. The only question is the degree of debasement and mediocrity in the future, and not a change from bad to good.
The US is facing a variety of scenarios and options, all of them (in the real world—and not fantasyland) ultimately leading to a no-win situation. That’s why I say the only vote that a person will be able to rely upon in the long run is the tried-and-true example of voting with one’s feet and the moving van.
Mark (2fd21b) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:32 amA man who boasts of being worth “Ten Billion” and who also boasts that nobody loves the vets more than he does, should personally make up the $3 million which his Fan Boys failed to send in. That would help make America great again.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:33 amGabriel,
I think we will need to deal with the Saudis at some point because of their connections to Al Qaeda, but Iran was complicit in 9/11 and we’re letting them have the bomb.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 11:57 amSchumer played Cornyn to let the 9/11 families sue the Saudis, just like the Democrats played Bush on education. Cruz is much smarter than Cornyn and Bush, which is why the Democrats fear him. They know they can’t use him as a conservative beard.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:01 pmMy friend DRJ wrote above (#24):
I agree. But I’m not yet depressed, and I won’t be unless and until the balance of the Republican Party — through the voters who haven’t yet voted, but also through convention delegates — has had, and missed, its remaining chances to keep Trump from getting the GOP nomination. Unless and until 1237 delegates vote for Trump, such chances remain.
I don’t see any happy scenarios for the GOP as a political party in this cycle unless Cruz is the nominee. I don’t think anyone who hasn’t run in this cycle, and with more success than Kasich or Rubio had, has a chance at unifying the party (or most of it) for the fall. And while Cruz is still by any objective measure the decided underdog at this point, his nomination would have the combined legitimacy accorded by all the states and votes and delegates he has won, plus the support (eventually, by November) of most of the #NeverTrump Republicans and some considerable number of the Trumpkins who haven’t gone full shill-mode (like our dishonest pests here).
However, I still see plausible scenarios in which Trump isn’t the nominee, even if it’s not Cruz. I don’t think any of those is going to end up well in the general election at the POTUS level, but at least some of those scenarios offer comparatively more hope for the downstream state and federal races that would be lost with Trump at the top of the ticket; and more stalemate would be better than seeing the Dems keep the Executive and retake both chambers of the Congress.
And Cruz has always been the underdog. In every path he’s ever had in this cycle, he was going to be paired against an establishment Republican in the final intra-GOP showdown. Cruz’ general election prospects have always been built upon first creating the narrative of Cruz’ successful triumph over the GOP establishment before earning the party’s banner from its grass-roots.
Trump is sui generis, the try black swan event, but at bottom — behind the lies and reality TV-show schtick — Trump is every bit as “establishment” as John Boehner or Mitch McConnell or Jeb Bush. Indeed, as such a broad buyer of influence, he’s paid off so many sellers of influence, in both parties, that he’s more deeply vested in the existing bipartisan establishment than any of them: They’ve only invested their careers, but Trump’s entire fortune, however many hundreds of millions or even billions that it might actually be, depends on his ability to continue buying influence, so a Cruz presidency would be a disaster for him. Of course, if Trump somehow managed to win the White House, he’d control both sides of these corrupt transactions — you don’t have to buy influence if you’re already wielding it as POTUS under Article II — but failing that, Trump would surly rather see Hillary in the White House than Ted Cruz.
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:01 pm*true black swan, I meant to write
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:01 pmIt’s so interesting the way Obama targets our allies and putative allies, while giving our enemies free rein. I think it’s because he hates America. Meanwhile, I think Trump admires our enemies’ leaders because they are greedy and corrupt. Different motives but same results.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:05 pmI agree, Beldar. Cruz’s path to the nomination was always going to be hard … this time. He has done better than anyone outside Texas thought he could do. His fund-raising, organization and discipline has been excellent.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:08 pmIt’s cute how the Democrats always tease these “big reveals” right around general election cycle time. Mr/Ms happyfeet is pretty certain xe knows what is in there–maybe xe was on the bipartisan 9/11 Commission.
All I know is happyfeet can now visit the little girls room, and if some chick kicks him in the dick while he’s in there it’s now a hate crime . Go Team Happyfeet!
Danube River Guide (76b104) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:09 pmI was remiss. Please forgive my inexcusable forgetfulness.
I let Earth Day pass without reminding everyone that the premiere bush pilot airshow in the world is less than a month away.
http://www.valdezflyin.com/
Radial engines, gas turbines, Lycoming flat fours, sixes, and eights and more will be there in Tall their carbon spewing glory. Tuned and displayed to a perfection that only someone who shares my hatred for the environment could possibly achieve.
I hear, if you hurry, you might be able to combine your fly-in pilgrimage with a spring black bear hunt.
http://www.bobstrophycharters.com/spring-bear-hunts.php
Even here in Texas the smell of the “Nauti Lady’s” diesel exhaust is seductive.
Clearly the only thing that would complete the ecstasy is if we were to rent a fleet of AC-130 Hercules to wipe out entire herds of caribou for the massive BBQ that follows the airshow PLUS the car show cuz we flew in hundreds of ’32 Fords in the cargo spaces that weren’t needed for the caribou-killing ammo. Because they can’t shoot back, like all the victims we Xtofascist imperialist, colonialist, patriarchal cisgendered white dudes always pick on.
Anyhoo, sorry for being two days late in delivering this message of joy and hope.
On the plus side, being two days late means I am now being recruited by the Trump campaign to head their Texas state organization.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:10 pmSupporting somebody who every poll shows losing by double digits to Hillary is serious about stopping Hillary?
Gerald A (7c7ffb) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:11 pmCongratulations!
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:13 pmAll in for Cruz. I want to see a real conservative get a shot at being elected POTUS.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:19 pmI don’t see any happy scenarios for the GOP as a political party in this cycle unless Cruz is the nominee.
There’s too much ill will out there amongst Republicans (but amongst the electorate in general too) to see that as a scenario that turns out any better. Although opinion polls indicate a larger portion of Trump supporters will vote for Cruz if he’s on the ballot than Cruz supporters doing the same for Trump, the overlap of Republicans who will be so resentful should their favorite candidate not make it at the convention and who’ll therefore vote for Hillary or not vote at all in November is probably large enough to throw the election to the Democrat.
My current hunch is that Trump would lose bigger in a race against Hillary than Cruz will, but unless something major happens to Sniper Fire’s health or to her reputation (and can it get any more tarnished than it is already?), the majority of the electorate will punch the chad for her.
We’re facing a Catch-22, an idiocracy, and a banana republic.
Mark (2fd21b) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:23 pm“Added up, while dishonoring Andrew Jackson,
Treasury Secretary Jack Lew is putting on the U.S. currency six women — three white, three African-American — and King. No Catholics, no conservatives, no Hispanics, no white males were apparently even considered. This is affirmative action raised to fanaticism, a celebration of President Obama’s views and values, and a recasting of our currency to make Obama’s constituents happy at the expense of America’s greatest heroes and historic truth. Leftist role models for American kids now take precedence over the history of our Republic in those we honor. RealClearPolitics”
http://americandigest.org/sidelines/2016/04/#a033243
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:25 pmFor your enjoyment and viewing pleasure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjwCcQq38i8
Forgive me if I’m temporarily unavailable in the next few hours. In addition to working out the formula for the rabbit dung glue to affix the obsidian “teeth” to an authentic Aztec “sword”…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqtxDz5tW6k
I’ll be trying to figure out how to turbocharge the ol’ Stihl chainsaw so I can, when I take a break from endangering entire species, destroy forests at a more efficient pace.
And, increase my carbon footprint.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:28 pmMr happyfeet, The Mr Donald’s never been very serious about stopping Hillary—that’s why he contributed to her 2008 presidential campaign.
the only thing worse than hillary for america in terms of being brutally raped was food stamp
that said i wasn’t aware Mr. The Donald donated to hillary’s 2008 campaign do you have a link
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:29 pmFor the first time in her life Michell Obama is proud of me.
I may or may not come up with a planet-destroying turbocharger for my chainsaw.
But if I do it will be lubricated by the tears of joy that stem from the knowledge I finally have Michelle Obama’s Trump-stamp of approval.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:34 pmLook Tootsie—you might want to go de-pidgin your English class, otherwise you might end up in Meeester Trump’s supposed round up. But most likely you are just a racist democrat faking that kind of language.
Danube River Guide (76b104) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:36 pmlike the lye and the incontinent scold you are caustic Mr. Guide
gentle thy tongue and gentle thy thoughts
and speak kindly of the pikachu, for he’s in service to but one endeavour
for to make America great again!
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:40 pmall the perverted saudi royal terrorist trash on their christmas card list what got caught up in the 9/11 slaughter
I bet they all stayed in Trump hotels. Coincidence? I think not!
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:41 pmTrump’s goal is to make hinself rich.
I think it’s more to prove to everyone he’s really smart, not dumb like daddy said.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:42 pmOk, I lied. I have a Sears chainsaw, and I knew that when I commented earlier.
But like a lot of things Sears sells, it’s not made by Sears. My mistake was blaming Stihl, when upon closer examination in fact the two-stroke motor at least is made by Husqvarna.
My bad.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:42 pmBut flapping your gums repeatedly about someone you claim to support on a website that is a strong supporter of Cruz isn’t? With that admission, why are we supposed to give any political opinion of yours any weight at all? Are you even aware what the word dignity means?
Voting is one of the very few civic duties we are asked- not coerced, asked- to do. I think it pitiable that you don’t even have the force of your convictions to swing that lever for Trump. You talk and talk and talk, and in the end you’ve said nothing. All because you’ve chosen to not back your words with that one small deed.
Christ, I’m looking at the possibility of a Trump nomination, a Sir Hillart presidency, I’m sick, permanently disabled, and I’m STILL making it a point to go to the polling place. Something an awful lot of my family dating back to before the Revolutionary War fought for. Here you are, just too cool for that. You don’t care about any of that. You couldn’t give a damn less if Trump really does make it. You just like playing contrarian. F**k, why do we even waste time with you? You’ve go nothing new to say, nothing to convince me with, no real witticism I can giggle at, no bright insight that makes me think “I never knew that”. All I get is how much of a failure America is and just how much better it will be under Trump.
Prove it to me. Go vote for Trump.
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:44 pmThat’s big of you. You won’t object to the Trumpkins doing the same, surely
1) Don’t call him Shirley.
2) Like Trump himself, many of Trump’s voters didn’t vote in 2000 or 2004 or 2008 or 2012, or voted for the Democrat, so their staying home of writing in Trump’s name won’t matter much.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:46 pmI fully expect a push for government control and censorship of the internet
Both Hillary and Trump favor that.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:50 pmI think it pitiable that you don’t even have the force of your convictions to swing that lever for Trump.
we have different thinkings
i feel my vote in chicago is worthless
it’s just a tool they use to get me into the jury duty pool, which is another kind of tax over and above the fortune i shovel into slutty slutty rahm’s filthy filthy coffers, but it’s a tax i can avoid and so i aim to avoid it
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:51 pmIt’s pretty mysterious. It involves saying you’re going to give money to veterans and then giving only half. Difficult concept to understand.
If you’re a Trumper I mean.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 4/24/2016 @ 12:58 pmHowever, I still see plausible scenarios in which Trump isn’t the nominee, even if it’s not Cruz.
Suppose that Trump fails on the first ballot and declines quickly on subsequent ballots. Cruz fails on the second and third ballots, the latter by a whisker. The fourth ballot has 12 names in nomination, with no one getting more than 500 votes. Bush’s name is booed loudly when nominated. Ryan declines his nomination and states that he will not run if nominated; the nomination is withdrawn.
It’s clear at this point that Cruz and Trump will not join together and neither can stand Kasich.
If it isn’t Cruz or Trump, who do you support? Who do you think they turn to? Who do you fear most?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:00 pmYou just like playing contrarian.
do people what are banking on wholly unprecedented goldy sacky second ballot hijinks for to nominate an extreme fetus-humping butt-snuffling ivy league elitist in what is by all accounts the most populist campaign season in our lifetimes really get to call normal people contrarians
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:01 pmI’m in the same boat, Happyfeet. I’ve been summonsed to jury duty several times in the few last years, and I am completely confident that my vote here in San Diego doesn’t count either. It damn sure won’t if it comes down to Trump vs Sir hillary. The point I’m trying desperately to make to you is I will still vote. It’s not just my right, it’s my duty. While I am still able, I will vote.
Small wonder it’s Failmerica for you. You are having the time of your life encouraging that failure. So much easier to talk rather than act.
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:04 pmIllinois Jury Act
Rick Ballard (4bc02f) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:05 pmIn English, please?
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:05 pmoh my goodness i act all the time voting is a tiny portion of what a pikachu could do just once or twice a year or most
nonono I’m busy all the time every day of every year the personal is the political and i aim to misbehave
and i do
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:07 pmHf is not “encouraging” failure, he is an active part of the failure since he makes NO attempt to be part of any solution. And, having no responsibility for any attempt at success, he can inveigh equally at all and sundry who attempt such.
In a lifeboat, he’d be the guy making fun of those bailing out the water.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:08 pmyou know Chicago well Mr. Ballard – they’re very punctilious about these regulations here
good catch
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:09 pmhe makes NO attempt to be part of any solution
you presume much
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:10 pmI’m bi-curious, feets. Why do you keep locating and relocating yourself where your vote is worthless?
I was so excited about moving to Texas I bought the chainsaw soes I could partake of the massacre.
Ok, I was wrong. Been here over 10 years and no chainsaw massacres. I was so wrong I’ll prolly ship the chainsaw (which is a d@mned good chainsaw I don’t care what the Amazon reviews say) back to the Plumas national forest redoubt when it comes down to it I’ll launch the fire arrows at you.
When the wind breaks the fruit trees, the chainsaws appropriate to delimbing them are cheap and available in the pawn shops.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:12 pmwait. hold the phone sally. did you not even read your citation Mr. Ballard?
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:12 pmI tried to drop a hammer on him over this at 105. Didn’t want to take it too far, I don’t want to be banned because I was channeling my Marine dad. 🙂
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:14 pmWhy do you keep locating and relocating yourself where your vote is worthless?
my skill set and experience is very narrow i can only work in a handful of cities really
in LA i broadened out from entertainment to marketing more generally
and this new gig has much more of an IT inflection and i’m learning about spinning up the servers in the cloud and such, and i think it’s *possible* one day I could keep this gig and relocate somewheres more congenial, in the meantime though i moved from high tax california to chicago, where if you’re willing to make certain lifestyle choices you can vastly reduce your tax burden from what you paid in failifornia
and i’m also getting some experience that’s more widely applicable
i fully intend to move somewheres red someday
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:16 pmIn California, anyone who has a DMV-issued ID is on the list of prospective jurors. Although I wonder how they deal with
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:18 pmillegal aliensuninvited foreign-born residents.Yes, I think the citation was read.
That word “and”. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:19 pmi got a dmv license in CA only for to go on that road trip i took
after i got back i was like a dog circling around trying to get comfortable and it just never really happened
i was out of there 18 months later or so
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:20 pmMr. H i think you are reading it wrong
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:21 pmTry a trip to Conjunction Junction, stinky.
Lake County, Illinois – Jury FAQ
How was I selected?
Rick Ballard (4bc02f) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:21 pmIn Lake County, jurors are selected from lists of licensed drivers (at least 18 years of age) and registered voters. These are combined into a single juror database. For each week of jury service, the computer system picks names at random to provide jurors for the courts.
look i don’t mean to be mean but you guys are not reading these wordings correctly
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:23 pmThese are combined into a single juror database.
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:23 pmReally? OK, try this on for size, since you think Rick and I are both wrong: Call up any courthouse within the area you live, be it Cook County, Chicago metro, Chicago proper or one of the outlying areas covered by the statute provided. Talk to the court clerk. Ask if you need to be a registered voter to be placed on a jury pool. Go on, I triple dog dare you.
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:31 pmthat is not what i am saying
i’m saying that if you register to vote you go into the jury pool done and done
it becomes who you are
cheap commoditized jury fodder
just a number anymore
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:34 pmSeriously- prove me wrong. You bet I will apologize if I am.
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:34 pmno apology necessary Mr. H
it’s all good in da hood
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:36 pmBill H,
Alternatively, he could have someone read him the next paragraph from the cited statute and try and explain to him the meaning of
wrt “and”.
Rick Ballard (4bc02f) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:37 pmagain you fail to dissuade me
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:39 pmIn Rick’s example, it says “and”, not “who are”. It says “lists“, not list.
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:40 pmThat’s why I said call your local courthouse. They will be the final arbiter.
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:42 pmthat seems like an extreme thing to do
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:43 pmI doubt your Marine dad would take offense at what I’m about to say. Because I’ll be the first to praise the Marines. But every once in a while an idiot slips in. What are you going to do as a Sailor? You’re gonna go get him. You’ll render aid.
http://www.uscg.mil/history/people/MunroDouglasIndex.asp
If anyone needs it I’ll look up the name of the destroyer screening Munro’s small boats. I’ll be happy to do it as that destroyer was absolutely raping the jungle of Guadalcanal, and the coxswains were doing everything in their power, and Chesty Puller was present on that destroyer and, shall we say, less than appreciative.
I know I have it my notes. Black Cats and Green Dragons; A Love Story remains a work in progress.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:48 pmWhy? Don’t you want the correct reading of the statute? Don’t you desire to be proven correct, even if only for your own peace of mind? You know you’re wrong, don’t you?
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:49 pmi have the correct reading of the statute though
i read it correctly
you read it wrong, which is fine, but me making a call isn’t going to help you read the statute more better
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:50 pmThere’s nothing to take offence from. It’s war- sh*t happens. What’s really amazing is how some of the most innocuous men turn out to be the biggest heroes.
When do you expect a publication date?
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:56 pmBill H? Arguing with happyfeet is a fool’s errand… mud… pig… wrestle, all of that.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/24/2016 @ 1:56 pmThere’s nothing like a good argument clinic with an idiot to liven up the afternoon.
Rick Ballard (4bc02f) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:00 pmi can’t even
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:03 pmI move around a lot and have to re-register to vote so I can get assigned to my new precinct because for some reason I like to go to the polling place and cast my vote there rather than at home.
This is anecdotal, but I firmly believe there is a direct correlation in registering to vote and getting selected for jury duty because I usually get called up soon after I re-register.
My guess is that it is all about the bias inside whatever computer program they have running.
I had jury duty a couple of years ago and also I just re-registered.
I’ll let you know if I get called for jury duty, odds are I will.
Been called for interesting stuff too, like a gang murder with a swarm of prospective jurors and after that a gang attempted murder done at the jail. (they closed the north county facility and that put surenos and nortenos in too close of contact).
Been called into the box on both of those, but always get bounced right away after lunch.
Just don’t select me for Federal Jury duty until I am retired please
steveg (fed1c9) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:09 pmi don’t mind serving on a jury for a real community i kind’ve tried in texas but got disqualified
i take my nullification responsibilities very seriously
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:11 pm*kinda* i mean
ugh
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:12 pmAlso, Trump has not given the veterans the charity money.
Patterico (cfb03e) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:14 pmhe’s given infinitely more monies than has one Mr. Ted Cruz
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:14 pmThis is so stupid. If you are on ANY of these lists, you are on the jury list. Staying off one list doesn’t help if you are on another of them. And if a lot of people were staying off both lists to avoid jury duty (as if you could function in the big city without an ID), they’d just find something else to add.
Besides, what’s wrong with jury duty? Anyone who consciously avoids it must waive the right to a jury trial if charged with a crime, or admit being a scumbag.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:17 pmthank you Mr. M i was at a loss
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:18 pmMr happyfeet,
There’s almost an Obama-like distortion of truth you engage in.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:19 pmTrump hasn’t given money to veterans. It wasn’t his money. He just solicited money from other people.
he’s given infinitely more monies than has one Mr. Ted Cruz
HE HAS NOT. He has not given a DIME of his own money. He has solicited millions from other people, and not given it all out. Maybe he has “overhead.”
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:19 pm(as if you could function in the big city without an ID)
my california one will for the trick for many many moons yet plus my passport is good for 9 more years i think
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:19 pmI don’t really have one.
I started out jotting things down for my personal edification.
No BS; why did we retain the faith of the majority of Filipinos?
At certain times I had enough for a book, the my computer crashed. I will try to do better in the future.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:22 pmYour CA ID is invalid in IL after a few weeks of residence. If you use it as if you still live in California, you are committing fraud.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:22 pmIf you use it as if you still live in California, you are committing fraud.
that is so silly i use it for when people axe for an id for example the TSA, which is a federal gestapo unit that’s not know for doing leniency on failmericans what do not adhere to the regulations
other than that i use it for amtrak tickets
also i had to show it for my national park pass (i know i know they’re disgusting fascists too but i hardly ever pass a national park without stopping in)
beyond that sometimes merchants axe for it, and they do not care about my address they just wanna know there’s a good probability my credit card is mine
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:27 pmthat’s not *known* for doing leniency i mean
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:28 pmMr. Bill, I respectfully submit the USS Sea Cloud:
http://www.uscg.mil/history/articles/Carlton_Skinner.asp
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:29 pmmy california one will *do* the trick
sorry i get anxious when i comment while I’m cooking rice
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:30 pmIf I give zero, collect $6MM from others, and distribute $2.9MM of that, then I have given -$3.1MM.
I’m pretty sure Cruz has given more than that, happysophist.
If Cruz has even managed not to steal money from vets, he’s doing $3 million better than the fraudulent Sniveling Coward.
Patterico (cfb03e) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:32 pmMr happyfeet, there’s kind of a fraud that you’re committing by pontificating that everyone must vote for The Mr Donald when you’re not even willing to vote for him yourself.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:33 pmMr. Patterico you are being uncharitable to Mr. The Donald
if he’d put his mind towards being the heartless and evil super- illain you attempt to portray him as being
i’m assure you there would be voluminous evidence
and there’s just not
he’s a regular guy with flaws and foibles
and i think he genuinely wants to help make america great again
if he’s unforgivably a wee bit left-ish i’d point to allentown’s lee iacoca as his forbear, not a monster like adolph hitler or george clooney
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:39 pmvanna i’d like to solve the puzzle
super-villian!
[YAY HAPPYFEET}
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:40 pmWhether he is a monster or not is changing the subject. What’s undeniable is that he has cheated veterans out of more than 3 million dollars.
Funny how the Trumpers dodge and dodge and dodge that issue.
Patterico (3d4257) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:44 pmi disagree i feel the case that Mr. Trump has cheated veterans remains mired in whimsy and legal theory and has yet to run the evidentiary gauntlet
much like what happened with our much-maligned friend corey i think we should let the legal system run its course before rushing to judgment
thank you Mr. Trump for reminding us of this quintessentially American philosophy
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:47 pmMr happyfeet, it sounds like you not only like the crease in Trump’s pants, but that you’re willing to press them for him.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 2:58 pmSad!
no i just want two things i do not want that disgusting incontinent geriatric criminal hooch to be president and i want to make america great again
Mr. Trump may be imperfect but he’s casting a much wider net than the coldly calculating hyper-dogmatic harvardtrash elitist (Ted Cruz)
so i choose Mr. Trump
I pass the test!
i will diminish and go into the West and remain galadriel
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:02 pmHillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton Hillary! Clinton
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:04 pmhillary is just nasty
smelly slutty nasty
nasty like something you wash your hands after touching
nasty like something you leave in the hot south texas sun for a few days before putting away
nasty like something you found on the bar at ryan’s america’s best buffet
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:07 pmSays the guy who just wrote this:
Troll. Pure and simple. No effort to be honest. Just a troll.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:10 pmMr. P there are procedures for determining criminality as I’m sure you know
we have ample evidence that Hillary Clinton has operated outside the boundaries of what is legal – it is proper to speak of her as being disdainful of the rule of law
not so for Mr. The Donald
the evidence is just not there
if he were criminal, why not just donate two millions
or one millions
there is much here what is puzzling, about these putatively criminal non-donations what our friend Mr. The Donald may or may not have made
but i’ll keep my own counsel in these matters until such time as I have a better grasp of the facts
until proven guilty, Mr. The Donald remains innocent
and much-loved by The People
because, you see
there is also love in the world
it’s not all disdain and cynicism
not yet
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:17 pmMr happyfeet, fortunately you don’t vote. And thank God you don’t get put on any jury panels. Otherwise the criminals would all be free.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:32 pmSo now it is about the evidence. But you just said “i think we should let the legal system run its course before rushing to judgment” — an attitude that, for you, obviously applies only to the Sniveling Coward and his supporters.
Because if it’s OK to reach conclusions about people before the legal system has run its course, then we have “ample evidence” that Trump collected $6MM and distributed less than half of that. Months later.
An intellectually honest person would be concerned about that. I am. You are not.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:39 pmMr happyfeet, I said the other day that Sean Hannity is proof that anyone can succeed in America. I would add The Kardashians, filmmaker Kevin Smith, and YOU to that list. (LOL)
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:43 pmi will bow to no one in my zeal to prevent the disgusting incontinent hooch from usurping america
NO ONE
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:52 pmFrom amongoose @ American Thinker:
Hoagie ™ (e4fcd6) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:55 pmomg that’s so disrepectful
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:56 pm*disrespectful* i mean
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:56 pmMr happyfeet, you lied to us.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:59 pmYou said you would bow to “no one.”
But we’ve all witnessed you bowing to The Honorable Mr Donald J Trump.
And I think you enjoyed it.
*gulp*
I apologize to all the prostitutes out there. Feel better happyfeet?
Hoagie ™ (e4fcd6) — 4/24/2016 @ 3:59 pmyes i guess i’m just sad cause prince died
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:05 pmkeep bustin
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:06 pmMr happyfeet, fortunately, you’ll be just like all the other zillions of Americans who refuse to vote for greaseball Donnie Mobster.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:11 pmHis own children don’t even believe it’s important to vote for him.
I agree! (LOL)
that is so glib, what you said
you should pause and reflect
is that really who you are
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:13 pmu like an old friend of mine what got lost in the jive
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:14 pmUm…
Other than vote, you mean.
When you say “zeal,” I think of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:16 pmMr happyfeet, you’re looking for a surrogate father figure. Ironically (or not), The Mr Donald didn’t even want to be seen in public pushing his own child’s baby carriage.
Maybe he’s not the guy for you. (LOL)
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:18 pmyou are so pooper
voting comes but once a year but insouciance, hoarding/wrecking, and a general anti-social attitude is far more consequential and it’s all year round
and in these i excel
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:19 pmMr happyfeet, you excel at kissing up to the corridors of power. The Mr Donald whets your whistle.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:23 pmMr happyfeet,
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:25 pmWhat do you have in common with The Mr Donald’s children AND Ted Cruz?
They couldn’t bring themselves to vote for him, either.
that is not even
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:30 pmActually, that is even
SPQR (a3a747) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:50 pmit is so not even
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 4:56 pmMe and the dogs* are gonna boil us up some potstickers, just as soon as we culturally appropriate some soy sauce and rice wine vinegar.
Cuz that’s just how we roll.
*I culturally appropriated them from the Eskimo.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 5:39 pmSteveg:
I am exactly the same way. Ain’t in my paygrade to tell someone who votes by mail/absentee is doing it wrong, but I just feel better about actively going to the precinct.
I have gotten the Federal notice just recently, but I’m physically unable to do mere than a couple days at a stretch. I feel a little badly about that because 1) I would like to and 2) I think I should be there.
Steve57:
A maddening loss. Do you still have that HDD? Maybe try to get it recovered? In the meantime- thumbdrives! I have collected an awful lot of no-longer available on-line Citroen manuals. My coal-fired Dell has been threatening to crash and burn for the last couple of years, so all those files, 40GB worth, possibly the most important files I own are now stored on a SanDisk USB flash drive.
That works nicely. Thanks for the link. Literally uncharted territory for the Coasties, never mind the Squids.
Herr Oberst:
I would be a lot happier if that were George Clinton.
Rev:
I gotta tell that one at the clinic tomorrow.
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 6:49 pmSorry, guys, I just don’t see the downside of happyfeet not voting. I wish 7.5 million other Trumpkins had that same sense of civic-mindedness, social responsibility, and awareness of their limitations.
nk (dbc370) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:17 pm+1
Patterico (86c8ed) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:33 pmIt just makes you wonder why he carries on the way he does, Patterico.
I think he is a nihilist and doesn’t really care about much of anything.
I could be wrong, of course.
Simon Jester (2708f4) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:43 pmomg you’d all love more than beans and fishsticks to live in a whirl where happyfeet voted
that my friends is the promised land
keep the faith pickleheads
we’ll get there
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:52 pmAre Trump supporters narcissists like their hero?
DRJ (15874d) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:56 pmThe thing I like about Islam is that even Satan is not irredeemable before Judgment Day.
nk (dbc370) — 4/24/2016 @ 7:59 pmyes yes Satan +1
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 8:01 pmBill H, I suppose I shoud thank you for distorting everything I said.
While, oddly, incorporating into an argument I never made.
And defeating that straw man which, I concede, should be defeated.
Which is why I never argued it.
So there it is. I don’t know why it’s there. It’s just there. I encourage everyone to go look at it.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 8:31 pmA guilty pleasure of mine, though not for the reason that may first come to your gutter minds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsKbwR7WXN4
If only we could turn back time to the period we were so lousy with battleships even Cher could reserve one for a video.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:10 pmExcuse me?
Patterico (86c8ed) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:18 pmoops i meant (+1)*(-1)
happyfeet (831175) — 4/24/2016 @ 9:42 pmWhat in the holy hell are you on about?? I’ve set up no strawman, I’ve distorted nothing, I’m arguing nothing with you. At least, up to now. All I did was 1) commiserate the loss of your work, along with a working suggestion to help save it in the future 2) agree with you that war is hell, and 3) thank you for a link I want to look at.
I have absolutely no idea what your problem is, but it ain’t gonna be mine anymore. I had enough of this crap from my youngest brother. I don’t have to deal with it from a stranger on the internet.
Bill H (dcdd7b) — 4/24/2016 @ 10:41 pmBill, get a grip.
Oh, ok, he says, as he readies the hypodermic needle.
Steve57 (4bd90d) — 4/25/2016 @ 1:37 amI couldn’t resist commenting. Well written!
senuke xcr (b637aa) — 5/17/2016 @ 5:49 pm