About Paul Ryan Riding In To “Save The GOP”
[guest post by Dana]
Let me be clear: I do not want, nor will I accept the nomination for our party,” Ryan said.
Speaking to the party delegates, Ryan said he believed they should only choose from someone who has participated in the primary in the case of a brokered convention.
“Count me out: I simply believe that if you want to be the nominee for our party to be the president, you should actually run for it,” he said. “I chose not to do this, therefore I should not be considered. Period. End of story.”
Said the Speaker of the House who claimed at least 5 times he would not run for Speaker of the House. Skeptical about about his statement regarding a possible nomination in light of his previous statements about not running for Speaker of the House? Apples and oranges, people, apples and oranges.
–Dana
Good morning.
Dana (0ee61a) — 4/13/2016 @ 7:07 amHe’s just putting himself in a position to make an equivalent set of whiny asshat demands about how everyone has to be nice to him and cooperate with him if he deigns to accept their nomination for the presidency, which he really definitely certainly doesn’t want no sir.
Leviticus (efada1) — 4/13/2016 @ 7:18 amToo bad Ryan wasn’t such a squish-squish and accommodationist, of left-leaning colleagues and policies. The Republicans are so fractured right now between Trump and Cruz, and the ill will between the two camps (and the shortcomings of their candidates) is making a sane outcome in November increasingly less likely, that an emergency alternative candidate is needed. Only problem is there aren’t really any viable ones out there, mainly because left-leaning foolishness has infected even the Republican Party.
Is there any part of American life in the 21st century — from the media to the military, from the schools to the churches, from Wall Street to Main Street — not infected by various forms of modern-day liberalism?
Mark (19afaf) — 4/13/2016 @ 7:30 amboy ryan got his clock cleaned by joe biden
he’s in no danger of riding in to save money on car insurance much less his corrupt perverted fiscally irresponsible party of sleazy fetus-obsessed chambertrash
happyfeet (831175) — 4/13/2016 @ 7:31 amGiven the dissatisfaction with Paul Ryan’s kowtowing to Barack Obama’s budget demands, the Speaker just might consider the possibility he may not be reelected. For the first time since 1998 Ryan will face a serious Primary election challenge (from a previous supporter). In fact, this is only the second time Ryan has faced a challenger in his own party.
It happened in Virginia when House Majority Leader, Eric Cantor, was dismissed for turning his back on the voters who put him in office. He was one of the Young Guns, TEA Party favorites, and he was summarily schlonged for disloyalty. Now it’s Ryan’s time to feel the white hot heat of the voters he’s betrayed.
ropelight (cf9e6c) — 4/13/2016 @ 7:43 amHe’s got a lot of lead time to pull Thad Cochran-esque crossover recruiting, unlike Cantor. If such recruiting becomes “blantant”, that alone might make the R’s overthrow him with another speaker, even if he wins reelection in November. Ryan’s enough of a “spiter” that he could toss support the Dem challenger should he lose the primary.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/13/2016 @ 7:48 amExactly, ropelight. The guy both Cruz supporters and Trump supporters are really voting against to be the nominee? Who comes up with this stuff? Seriously?
nk (dbc370) — 4/13/2016 @ 7:48 amPaul Ryan was a secret Marxist—until ropelight uncovered the truth.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/13/2016 @ 9:30 amLater today, helicopters will hover over ropelight’s home until some rough looking men knock at his door. They will gently escort him into the back of a late model Chevy Suburban with tinted windows. And as Robert Stack used to commonly say about a missing person when narrating ‘Unsolved Mysteries,’ “He was never seen or heard from again.”
#8, idiocy, writ large.
ropelight (cf9e6c) — 4/13/2016 @ 10:46 amropelight, I have to agree with you; anyone who thinks Paul Ryan is a secret Marxist or a tool of the Left is practicing idiocy.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/13/2016 @ 10:53 amIn over 10 years commenting, Perry was the worst troll I’d run into till you showed up. Congenitally stupid, aggressively obnoxious, devoid of relevance, completely lacking in integrity, and proud of it.
ropelight (cf9e6c) — 4/13/2016 @ 11:05 amRyan says he doesn’t want it. Believe him. He knows it would be destructive.
He didn’t want the speakership either (and probably still doesn’t want it) but there was no one else capable of stepping up, and God knows he tried to find someone else.
There are PLENTY of people capable of running for President. Cruz, Kasich, Walker, Fiorina, even Romney or Bush if you want to draw from that deck. Unlike the House, it isn’t Ryan and only Ryan who can serve.
Now, of course the Trumpists are going to use Ryan as their new strawman, they’ve done that time and again. Vote for Trump or you’ll be stuck with the horror-of-the-week. When the horror was always Trump.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/13/2016 @ 12:22 pmGiven the dissatisfaction with Paul Ryan’s kowtowing to Barack Obama’s budget demands
Bollocks. That came up a few weeks after Boehner quit. The budget was already a done deal. Do you really think the entire US government budget can be redone in a few days? They punted and waited for their next possession, as any team would do 4th down and 35. Blame Boehner, not Ryan.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/13/2016 @ 12:26 pmDana, I really do think it is apples and oranges. Ryan was already a senior member of House GOP leadership, chair of the most important House committee (having previously held the chair of the second-most important House committee) and the intellectual leader of the House conservatives for a decade. Moving from that position to fill a power vacuum at the top (after McCarthy’s withdrawal) was no big deal.
But going from Speaker of the House to the GOP presidential nominee? With no organization for that? With no national campaign staff? In an election campaign lasting months, with tens of millions of voters in 50+ states and territories? That’s about as different from the election process for the Speakership as an election could be.
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/13/2016 @ 12:46 pmKevin M,
As usual, you make good points there. I would also add that when it came time for the “anti-GOP establishment” caucus in the House to run someone for Speaker at the time of Boehner’s resignation, they couldn’t really find anyone to throw his hat in the ring.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/13/2016 @ 12:48 pmIt’s much easier for them to scream and kick about how Boehner and (now) Ryan are acquiescing to the Left and screwing America than it is for them to actually step up and take the reigns and drive the wagon.
Boehner was given the boot because he was using the punitive prerogatives of the Speaker’s office to dictate approval for Obama’s budget. Paul Ryan was elected Speaker specifically to stop Obama’s budget takeover, but he caved in. He got the Speaker’s leadership position but instead of keeping the faith, he betray Conservatives to make his bones with the GOPe. Paul Ryan is a made man.
ropelight (cf9e6c) — 4/13/2016 @ 12:53 pmTrumpkin shills (#16) lie as reflexively as they breathe: Boehner voluntarily resigned, in circumstances in which he was in no danger whatsoever of being driven from the Speakership. He wasn’t “given the boot”; although I was glad he resigned, I’m not going to pretend, counterfactually, that he “got the boot.”
One current presidential candidate knows well — has done millions of dollars in business — with Mafia crime figures, genuine “made men,” who are currently in prison, and that candidate, of course, is Donald Trump. But you can’t shame the shameless, nor educate the close-minded, nor rely on irony to persuade those who are oblivious to irony.
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/13/2016 @ 1:22 pmBeldar,
I agree. The circumstances are not the same. But let’s look at how the NYT really wants to keep hope alive: front page news.
Dana (020a13) — 4/13/2016 @ 1:41 pmBeldar, have you heard the unsubstantiated rumor that puts Ted Cruz’s father, Rafael Cruz, handing out Fair Play for Cuba leaflets in front of Clay Shaw’s New Orleans International Trade Mart along with Lee Harvey Oswald when Oswald got into a pre-planned (sheep dipping) scuffle with Carlos Baringuier, and as a result got the attention of local NOLA media?
ropelight (cf9e6c) — 4/13/2016 @ 2:04 pmI just got a survey from Team Ryan. They wanted to know what my priorities are. I got a similar survey from the NRC a few months ago. One of the items to check was border security and immigration reform. They just don’t get it. Those aren’t one item, they are 2 items.
I want them to implement border security like they’ve been promising since Reagan.
Tanny O'Haley (1b7d57) — 4/13/2016 @ 2:32 pmOh no, now our friend ropelight has reverted back to the JFK conspiracy theories.
Here’s a conspiracy that’s actually been proven true; The Mr Donald contributed to Hillary’s 2008 presidential campaign. I bet Paul Ryan didn’t even stoop to that level! (Cue audio tape of Howard Cosell exclaiming, “Down goes Frazier!”)
Whether or not some of the money Trump gave Clinton was from among the loot that D.B. Cooper famously extorted when he hijacked that plane in 1971 has not been proven. Ah, but it hasn’t been disproven, either!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/13/2016 @ 2:45 pm