Patterico's Pontifications

4/2/2016

Word Cloud from Yesterday’s Post

Filed under: General — JVW @ 10:38 am



[guest post by JVW]

Simon Jester suggested that we take yesterday’s one word post and generate a word cloud from the comments. Here it is, with the top 200 words by frequency.

Trump Word Cloud

– JVW

56 Responses to “Word Cloud from Yesterday’s Post”

  1. happyfeet’s monkey story strongly influences this word cloud. Somehow I find that highly appropriate.

    JVW (9e3c77)

  2. And I did not include Perry’s comment because, well, screw Perry.

    JVW (9e3c77)

  3. Who says we can’t have fun talking about Trump?

    nk (dbc370)

  4. The frequency at the tail end of the list must have dropped off pretty sharply. I see many words which surely were only there once or perhaps twice.

    But yeah: Trump monkey = happyfeet, for sure.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  5. this is an important historical artifact I’m a save it

    happyfeet (831175)

  6. Patterico,

    I wanted to respond here to a comment you made about Trump supporters being uneducated in the benefits of free trade.

    Free trade is obviously a good thing. But, of course, that isn’t exactly of the reality of the situation we find ourselves in. Romney in 2012 made a point criticize how China manipulates its currency and refuses to open its markets fully.

    Second point here: Complete free trade isn’t always good. When a country, like the United States, has huge and persistent trade deficits this is a very dangerous thing long term. But I suppose you know more than Warren Buffet or Carl Icahn.

    Finally, the benefits of trade–while real–disproportionately go to the owners of capital. Thus, many of the working class voting for Trump are voting their interests–they believe they’ve been hurt by trade and they’re largely correct. It’s no coincidence that with the NAFTA and the rise of China that we have seen the middle and working class decimated. But maybe you know better some of the greatest investors and economists alive, Mr. Career Prosecutor.

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  7. “Trump Monkey”
    Anybody remember the Trunk Monkey TV ads? They were pretty funny.

    pst314 (ae6bd1)

  8. Patterico takes thing, go beat dog. Am I playing this game right?

    Jcurtis (74fc02)

  9. If I knew you were going to do this, I would have tried harder to get “Latveria” mentioned more.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  10. i don’t see “obsession” in there, but it should be.

    redc1c4 (6304dc)

  11. Security guard Kenneth Lofton was among the workers who benefited last year when this East Bay city hiked its hourly minimum wage to nearly $15 for employees at large companies.

    The jump was almost 50% more than what he used to make in nearby Oakland when he was paid $10 an hour.

    ***

    FOR THE RECORD

    April 2, 1:42 p.m.: An earlier version of this article misstated the percentage of Kenneth Lofton’s wage increase as almost 70%. It was almost 50%.

    happyfeet (831175)

  12. You’re welcome to keep submitting your vile comments, perry, but know that it only takes me two clicks to remove them.

    JVW (9e3c77)

  13. Someone was talking about Johnny Carson?! I must have missed that comment.
    Oh wait. It was probably Ben Carson. Nevermind.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  14. not enough vandal savage,

    narciso (732bc0)

  15. I have no idea who Vandal Savage is and don’t nobody tell me if you value your family jewels.

    nk (dbc370)

  16. mythical immortal being from the justice league,

    and now for something completely different,

    http://futurism.com/videos/detailed-map-date-place-universe/

    narciso (732bc0)

  17. But I suppose you know more than Warren Buffet or Carl Icahn.

    So, question: why is it you think Carl Icahn and Warren Buffet are against free trade? Think perhaps it has something to do with their ability to corner a market, dismantle a corporation, make money?

    But maybe you know better some of the greatest investors and economists alive, Mr. Career Prosecutor.

    Old Reader (08f24c) — 4/2/2016 @ 11:42 am

    You know, being a snotty a*shole on a site that does not agree with you does not make your case any easier to sell.

    Bill H (dcdd7b)

  18. that’s the way it was supposed to be

    somewhere it all went horribly wrong

    happyfeet (831175)

  19. your crystal ball is where you chase the dragon
    she said now bring me home his head inside a sack
    but now you find your crystal balls are draggin’
    got to get that monkey off your back

    nk (dbc370)

  20. Go away, EPWJ!

    Yoda (feee21)

  21. Still counting Jooooos in Iran?

    Yoda (feee21)

  22. Still supporting Dede Scuzzeyfavor as the real conservative in the race?

    Yoda (feee21)

  23. happyfeet women leash Hillary?

    steveg (fed1c9)

  24. reply hazy try again

    happyfeet (831175)

  25. litmus test, although the aversion here, is almost as off the chart, as the dubai traveller,

    http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/04/02/palin-flops-as-trump-surrogate-in-wisconsin-while-cruz-and-kasich-shine/

    narciso (732bc0)

  26. Just saw the photo at the link SarahW’s post.
    wasn’t trying to say hf women = monkeys or that Hillary is a dog.

    steveg (fed1c9)

  27. no worries Mr. g the cloud speaks to different people in different ways

    happyfeet (831175)

  28. Here’s the link to one of the most famous of Charles Schulz’ Peanuts strips, when they’re laying around looking up at the cloud formations.
    https://www.google.com/?espv=2#q=famous+peanuts+quotes+cloud+formations&tbm=isch&imgrc=gWwq-VLMWmGiOM%3A

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  29. What? No reply EPWJ/Old Reader?

    Yoda (feee21)

  30. the benefits of trade–while real–disproportionately go to the owners of capital.

    Who determined that? That’s actually a communist type thing to say, if you substitute “capitalism” for “trade”.

    we have seen the middle and working class decimated.

    I think it was Old Reader that made the “middle class decimated” claim on another thread. The middle class has been harmed during the Obama years – median household income has declined – but prior to that I know of nothing that demonstrates a declining middle class.

    But I suppose you know more than Warren Buffet or Carl Icahn.

    This is the typical “appeal to authority” argument where you pick your authority.

    Gerald A (6bc6b2)

  31. All it could mean is that Buffet and Icahn can’t get Chinese politicians to accept their “political donations” in exchange for some crony-love.

    nk (dbc370)

  32. well buffett is a crony, who helped craft tarp, icahn is a different ball of wax,

    http://www.bendbulletin.com/nation/4179666-151/a-spy-in-the-fog-of-a-secret?referrer=fpblob

    narciso (732bc0)

  33. It’s fun if you decide you have to make a phrase out of a line of words that touch.

    Patterico? Dog, he’s Trump. Never eyes people- just even seen actually one.
    Doom, citizen Trumphead.
    Powerful.

    mayBee (b709ed)

  34. would need a few more sentence for haiku,

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/obama-nixed-cia-plan-could-have-stopped-isis-officials-n549111

    the rest of the story,

    narciso (732bc0)

  35. Appeal to authority argument? Sure, but it was a response to Patterico’s absurd argument that only a moron could find fault in the current state of “free trade,” when he probably knows very little about the subject (that’s not a knock on him other than he should probably not condemn others as ignorant when he hasn’t thought much about an issue).

    Trading is great but large deficits create major economic problems. Many economists and some of the best investors the world has ever seen agree with this critique, and it’s uncontroversial that trade deficits reduce growth of domestic aggregate demand. I could explain it to you but a quick google search will probably yield a more useful result. For example Buffet wrote a WSJ op ed over ten years ago. Persistent trade deficits are bad for middle class and working class Americans, limit economic growth, and basically trade a little bit of our collective wealth and power each year they occur in exchange for a higher quality of life at the moment (cheap goods). It’s a disinvestment for our future. That’s the result of “free trade” as practiced the last 20 years. Nobody listened to the warnings made at the time and here we are now–with almost 20 years of stagnant real wage growth. It’s time to rein in these trade deficits and that means getting tougher with trading partners.

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  36. You know, being a snotty a*shole on a site that does not agree with you does not make your case any easier to sell.

    I was snarky, yes, but it was Patterico who professed his superior understanding of trade as compared to those stupid, uninformed Trumpkins. He is wrong and I very much doubt he’s thought much about the issue in any depth. Free trade hurts this country when it creates massive, persistent trade deficits. If we care about the future of this country this has to change.

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  37. Old Reader, you’re supporting Trump—a man who takes 12 different positions on an issue within a matter of hours. He boasts about not knowing the difference between the Kurds and the Al Quds forces. He has stated that judges “sign” laws.
    Yet you’re chastising Patterico for allegedly not being an expert on free trade?
    (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  38. I’m criticizing Patterico for parroting talking points about free trade, yes, particularly when he claims it’s Trumpkins that have no idea about trade–ho ho ho those rubes have no idea free trade is so great for them! There is widespread concern about trade deficits and their impact on our economy from across the political spectrum among economists and business professionals. The negative impact is felt in particular by this country’s working men and women.

    Re: Trump’s ignorance, people support Trump because of his immigration and trade policies and because of his promise to be independent from special interests. He is obviously not a career politician and he does lack knowledge and polish–some areas are more obvious than others. Nobody cares that he doesn’t know about the “Al Quds,” but his judicial knowledge is embarrassing and needs to be remedied. As a politician, he shows moments of brilliance but he needs to demonstrate competence on certain issues and willingness to prep. I fear that this success so far insulates him from the reality of the situation but there are signs he’s moving in the right direction.

    If there was another candidate that was right on the issues that I think are critical to this country’s future, I would gladly support them over Trump. There are none. Cruz has tried to adopt Trump’s positions on many of these issues but his recent history and ties to Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street firms means I cannot trust him on these issues and, in any case, is less electable than any other candidate in the field, IMO. I started out liking Ted Cruz quite a bit but he’s political opportunism and lying has eroded my opinion. I’d still support him if he were the nominee but as of now I think all he is helping is the Establishment put in place somebody other than Trump or Cruz.

    If I have been testy it’s only because that is the tone set in these comments.

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  39. Nobody cares that he doesn’t know about the “Al Quds,
    They’re the ones who flew the planes into the Twin Towers. Somebody should tell him.

    Nobody cares that he doesn’t know about the “Al Quds,
    They’re the ones we’ve been fighting in Afghanistan. Somebody should tell him.

    Nobody cares that he doesn’t know about the “Al Quds,
    But he is going to kill their their families.

    Nobody cares that he doesn’t know about the “Al Quds,
    “Nobody”(ies) is correct, unfortunately their vote counts as much as an intelligent person’s.

    nk (dbc370)

  40. Al quds is the way brennan refers to jerusalem, much like thessalonica is saloniki now.

    narciso (dd1f9a)

  41. Thessaloniki has always been Thessaloniki to the Greeks. Salonica is the shortened form of the “Frangic” (Western Europe) orthography of “Tessalonika”. But I know what you mean.

    Still …. The Middle East is our front in the war with Islamic terrorists, and Israel at the vey center of the front. The Palestinians and the Israelis have been at war longer than he has been alive, and the annexation of Jerusalem is one of the most burning questions. He should be so oblivious?

    nk (dbc370)

  42. Yes but how many knew that Whitlam. Was Bethlehem and I forget what they called Hebron.

    narciso (dd1f9a)

  43. Old Reader, again, it’s just kind of funny that a Trumpkin is finding fault with someone for allegedly not being an expert on an issue, when Trump himself has embarrassed himself time and time again with his lack of knowledge about issue after issue.
    The Constitution calls for the President to be the Commander in Chief, so we do expect the forthcoming new Commander in Chief to have basic knowledge about Iran’s Quds forces. It’s not like Hugh Hewitt had obnoxiously asked Trump to name the Parks and Recreation Commissioner for a suburb of Tehran.

    As far as free trade goes, there are pros and cons to trade deficits. There’s no consensus among economists about it. But there’s no denying that all those cheap goods imported from China that end up on the shelves at Walmart actually help middle class and lower class families enjoy a higher standard of living. That’s a definite plus.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  44. I just heard him on Meet the Press. Same Trump, different day. The transcript would be fruitful. Sticking to the same story on Fields; complete weasel on abortion. This guy is as pro-life as Wendy Davis.

    nk (9faaca)

  45. Nobody cares that he doesn’t know about the “Al Quds,
    They’re the ones who flew the planes into the Twin Towers. Somebody should tell him.

    Nobody cares that he doesn’t know about the “Al Quds,
    They’re the ones we’ve been fighting in Afghanistan. Somebody should tell him.

    Iran knocked down the Twin Towers and is fighting in Afghanistan?

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  46. As far as free trade goes, there are pros and cons to trade deficits. There’s no consensus among economists about it.

    This isn’t really true, the question is how much we value current consumption over our future. To some extent our position as a reserve currency has softened some of the negative effects but the effects are certainly negative long term, unless you think that foreigners owning American assets and America being nothing other than a hollowed out service economy with no productive capacity are good things.

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  47. Cruz has tried to adopt Trump’s positions on many of these issues

    This is the identical bogus claim you made on another thread Old Reader. Cruz has not tried to adopt Trump’s position on anything. Stop saying that. Also cease saying that free trade has decimated the middle class, another thing you said on another thread. There is no evidence that I’m aware of to suggest a declining middle class prior to the Obama years, and you don’t cite any.

    but his recent history and ties to Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street firms means I cannot trust him on these issues

    I think it’s strange that you like what Icahn and Buffet say, and apparently also the fact that Icahn is backing Trump, while simultaneously having a problem with some alleged Wall Street ties of Cruz (which AFAIK consists entirely of his wife working at GS). Or is there a “good” Wall Street and a “bad” Wall Street, and you decide which is which by whether they agree with Trump on something? If so there’s likely some kind of circular logic at work there.

    and in any case, is less electable than any other candidate in the field, IMO.

    All the polling evidence shows that Trump is far less electable than any other candidate. Period. You have no factual basis for such a claim. If you just have some fact-free gut instinct that’s pretty meaningless to any intelligent person. In fact based on the kinds of things you say, your gut instinct would make me more confident that Trump is the least electable.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  48. This isn’t really true, the question is how much we value current consumption over our future.

    Old Reader (08f24c) — 4/3/2016 @ 10:37 am

    I don’t see any connection between trade deficits and current consumption. Current consumption means how much we choose to consume vs. save currently. Blocking imports has nothing to do with that.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  49. This is the identical bogus claim you made on another thread Old Reader. Cruz has not tried to adopt Trump’s position on anything.

    He was not for a wall, now he is. He was for amnesty in 2013, now he says we should deport all the immigrants and never let them back. He was for TPP, now he’s against it and running ads critical of trade. Like hell he hasn’t adopted Trump’s platform. Educate yourself, man.

    All the polling evidence shows that Trump is far less electable than any other candidate.

    Cruz has the oddest, most unlikable personality of a presidential candidate within memory. Add to this, he associates with some pretty wacky people–see the speech by that preacher who thinks homosexuals should be killed right before he introduces Cruz. He is unelectable. Trump’s numbers are low because Republicans are divided at the moment and the media is concentrating on destroying him. If Cruz is the nominee do you think they will continue to ignore all Cruz’s many vulnerabilities? Don’t count on it. Lastly, it’s the electoral college that counts, and Trump is probably best suited to turn swing states–particularly those in the rust belt.

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  50. Trump has supported amnesty it in the past.

    You’re right Cruz has taken adopted somewhat of an anti-free trade posture lately. That’s not to his credit in my opinion.

    Cruz has the oddest, most unlikable personality of a presidential candidate within memory.

    That’s a strange thing for a Trump backer to complain about. The media wants Trump to be the nominee as is apparent by how they have conducted the debates, especially CNN, where Trump gets substantially more time to talk than the others, and Cruz has gotten cut off when answering questions.

    Lastly, it’s the electoral college that counts, and Trump is probably best suited to turn swing states–particularly those in the rust belt.

    If the rust belt states are really your focus then you should be supporting Kasich. He’s the popular governor of must-win Ohio.

    The term “rust belt” is a 1980’s term and was largely about the steel and auto industries. There hasn’t been a string of factory closures in the midwest lately except for the auto industry’s problems during the financial crisis. I see no reason why a pro-protectionist campaign would bring in lots of midwest voters.

    Your Trump is more electable claim is, as I figured, fact-free.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  51. Here is a Nate Bargatze stand-up comedy set that is funny and relevant to our modern interests.
    Includes an explication of Trump’s appeal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRrWmIlkaGU

    SarahW (67599f)


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