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3/11/2016

Trump Campaign Manager Denies Assault, Calls Victim “Delusional” Even As Evidence Against Him Mounts

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:44 am



The Trump campaign released a statement yesterday utterly denying that campaign manager Corey Lewandowski ever laid a hand on reporter Michelle Fields:

The accusation, which has only been made in the media and never addressed directly with the campaign, is entirely false. As one of the dozens of individuals present as Mr. Trump exited the press conference I did not witness any encounter. In addition to our staff, which had no knowledge of said situation, not a single camera or reporter of more than 100 in attendance captured the alleged incident.

Actually, a reporter did see it happen. More about that in a second. Here’s Lewandowski himself:

It’s unclear why Lewandowski is targeting Fields. She is not the one who identified him as the perpetrator. Washington Post reporter Ben Terris did:

As security parted the masses to give him passage out of the chandelier-lit ballroom, Michelle Fields, a young reporter for Trump-friendly Breitbart News, pressed forward to ask the Republican front-runner a question. I watched as a man with short-cropped hair and a suit grabbed her arm and yanked her out of the way. He was Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s 41-year-old campaign manager.

Fields stumbled. Finger-shaped bruises formed on her arm.

“I’m just a little spooked,” she said, a tear streaming down her face. “No one has grabbed me like that before.”

Fields has tweeted out a picture of the bruise that Terris saw at the time:

And because she was recording the question, audio and a transcript have been made available:

Fields: “Mr. Trump, you went after the late Scalia for affirmative action, do you — are you still against affirmative action?”

Voice (allegedly Corey Lewandowski): “Excuse me, thank you.”

A few moments later (noise of the room can be heard)…

Terris: “You OK?”

Fields: “Holy sh*t.”

Terris: “Yea he just threw you down.”

Fields: “I can’t believe he just did that that was so hard. Was that Corey?”

Terris: “Yeah, like, what threat were you?”

Fields: “That was insane. You should have felt how hard he grabbed me. That’s insane. I’ve never had anyone do that to me from a campaign.”

Go to the link for the audio.

In addition, a Daily Beast story claimed, through anonymous sources, that Lewandowski had spoken with Breitbart reporter Matt Boyle and admitted grabbing Fields, saying he had not realized she was a Breitbart reporter. I can’t find any evidence that Boyle has said anything publicly about this, although his Twitter feed seems very supportive of Fields. I hope he speaks out soon.

Despite the bruise, the statements from Fields and Terris, and the contemporaneous audio that corroborates everything Fields and Terris have said, we have seen Trump and Lewandowski attack Fields’s professionalism and assert that absolutely nothing happened. The attacks appear to be bogus (e.g. she is accused of making up a story about being knocked to the ground during an Occupy protest but there is a photo of it) but that is not stopping Trump and his people. Here is Trump accusing Fields of making the story up:

There are now “assault truthers” out there supporting Trump, of course. As I have said many times, if someone has made up their mind not to be convinced of something, no amount of evidence will convince them. Apparently the level of insane paranoia is such that there exist people who believe the evidence was somehow concocted. These people apparently believe that Fields and Terris agreed to make up a story about Lewandowski, and got together after the fact and manufactured audio evidence to support it, along with a bruise.

These are (at least some of) your Donald Trump supporters, folks. This is your electorate. This is the man who is the Republican front-runner. Does anyone see a problem?

198 Responses to “Trump Campaign Manager Denies Assault, Calls Victim “Delusional” Even As Evidence Against Him Mounts”

  1. Patterico, you have a couple of “assault truthers” posting here, in fact.

    It’s very, very weird.

    This isn’t another Andrew Jackson situation. It’s more like a less temperate Huey Long.

    Brrr.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  2. This is so overblown I think. If picklepoo is so upset she needs to go to the popo, not make a tawdry reality tv spectacle of herself.

    Millennials.

    This sort of special snowflakism is tedious.

    happyfeet (831175)

  3. Can “they” analyze the supposed recording to verify a time stamp, etc.??

    Clearly, it seems, it can’t be just Fields as others corroborate parts of her story.
    yes, several could be in on faking it, and yes, it could really have happened

    MD in Philly (at the moment not in Philly) (441480)

  4. A few moments later (noise of the room can be heard)…

    Terris: “You OK?”

    i can’t for the life of me hear the macaca press boy saying “You OK?”

    these skullcandies are pretty good, but they were under $100

    happyfeet (831175)

  5. Breitbart has a new story up that goes through the available video/pictures and matches them up with the accounts. It looks like that the assault happened but the wrong person got identified as to who did it. Instead of the campaign official, it might have been a security guard who looks kinda like the guy.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/trump-presser-ben-terris-misidentified/

    brightdarkness (0c5f1f)

  6. Patterico, an update might be in order. Video evidence shows Lewandowski on the opposite side of Trump and Fields when the incident occurred. Lewandowski in emphatic he didn’t do it, and he damn well might have the evidence to prove it.

    I know it’s tempting to bite hard, but a little caution now might serve you well down the road.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  7. I got bruises worse than that just from playing soccer with my kid on the weekend.

    Boris (fe733d)

  8. Good point Mr. Boris

    some people bruise super-easy, for any number of reasons

    happyfeet (831175)

  9. It doesn’t matter how bad the bruises are, or even if there weren’t any. Whoever laid hands on her committed a crime, even if he didn’t hurt her at all. And I join feets in wondering why she hasn’t filed a complaint with the police. That is, if indeed she hasn’t.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  10. Another non-issue. Who cares? They cut the heads off journalists in the ME but a bruise is a big deal. If she can’t handle it perhaps she should go into another field. These are the snowflakes colleges turn out of journalism school?

    Rev. TrusTED Hoagie ™ (eb7063)

  11. If it wasn’t Lewandowsky then he must know who it was, because that person is his employee, was there at that moment, and looks like him. So why wouldn’t he identify the real assailant, fire him, and inform the police?

    Milhouse (87c499)

  12. Now someone on Breitbart is claiming that photos show that Washington Post reporter misidentified Corey. Come on! The reporter has been on the trail long enough to know who he is ! And Corey was right there

    Victoria (090162)

  13. Who cares?

    That the campaign hires criminals and tolerates its people assaulting those who get in the way is a huge deal. It’s a symptom of fascism, and shows the candidate to be unfit for office.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  14. Milhouse, to a lawyer a fart is a big deal. Grow up.

    Rev. TrusTED Hoagie ™ (eb7063)

  15. i don’t think physically steering someone away from the next leader of the free whirl is necessarily an assault in all cases, and as others have noted it’s starting to look like this was more of a security-oriented decision not a press control one

    it’s a job for big boys and girls, covering presidential candidates, not a job for mewling pipsywizzles

    happyfeet (831175)

  16. i don’t think physically steering someone away from the next leader of the free whirl is necessarily an assault in all cases

    Um, yeah, it is. You do not lay hands on people, and America is built on the principle that “the next leader of the free whirl” is not special.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  17. Fields has reportedly filed a police report. The police can figure it out.

    DRJ (15874d)

  18. I heard that Trump once opened a box of cereal at the end that says “open other end”. Maybe Patterico can eviscerate him for that in his next post.

    Boris (fe733d)

  19. I don’t know if the report in my comment 17 is reliable. It’s a viral newsfeed website so we’ll see if the report pans out.

    DRJ (15874d)

  20. The person to question is Ben Terris with the Washington Post who identified the campaign manager as the person who grabbed Fields. A photo ID of the manager and the security person would resolve this, and it doesn’t have to be officials who ask. Ask Terris.

    DRJ (15874d)

  21. When did this become acceptable behavior?

    JD (34f761)

  22. Of course, Terris has been clear from the start that it was the campaign manager who grabbed Fields.

    DRJ (15874d)

  23. Boris is a special snowflake.

    JD (34f761)

  24. This is the “getting even” part of the campaign for Trump and his supporters, JD. Anything goes because Obama, Clinton and the Democrats have run rough-shod over our culture for so long. They are Jacksonians so the answer is to do whatever it takes to win. There are no rules for Jacksonians who have been pushed too far.

    DRJ (15874d)

  25. Last night he suggested that Fields crashed through security and they had a right to manhandle her because of fear of assassination.

    JD (34f761)

  26. Starting to look like the snowflake was right, doesn’t it, JD?

    Boris (fe733d)

  27. Here ya go:

    Miami (AFP) – A 78-year-old white man punched a black protester in the face at a Donald Trump rally and was charged with assault, media said Thursday, in chaotic scenes on the presidential campaign trail.

    John McGraw — who later said that next time “we might have to kill him” — was also charged with battery and disorderly conduct after the event Wednesday night in North Carolina, the Cumberland County sheriff’s office told the local TV station WRAL.

    The incident was condemned by Bernie Sanders, who is vying with Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination for the White House.

    “No one in America should ever fear for their safety at a political rally. This ugly incident confirms that the politics of division* has no place in our country. Mr. Trump should take responsibility for addressing his supporters’ violent actions,” Sanders said.**

    *So a leftist and member of the party that invented the politics of division is stunned!
    **Does this mean all candidates should take responsibility for their supporters or only Trump?

    It’s a symptom of fascism, and shows the candidate to be unfit for office. Wow. He’s an unfit fascist.

    Rev. TrusTED Hoagie ™ (eb7063)

  28. No, Natasha, it does not. Only if you ignore all the available evidence, and ignore CL’s prior admission before they chose to smear Fields.

    Trump was right. He could shoot someone in the street and his supporters would lap it up.

    JD (34f761)

  29. I applaud the filing of the police report.

    Atta girl!

    #FreeCorey

    happyfeet (831175)

  30. Hoagie – how many incidents like that are too many?

    JD (34f761)

  31. BTW, JD, if you think that a couple of barely-there bruises is evidence of “manhandling” then I guess we know who the real snowflake is.

    Boris (fe733d)

  32. 21.When did this become acceptable behavior?

    Who said it was acceptable behavior, JD? But when one considers there are about 44 murders committed in America every day pushing a journalist is no big deal. Especially at a political rally where emotions are high. Or was this the first time something like this has ever occurred?

    It’s anti-Trump people trying to distract. So again, who cares?

    Rev. TrusTED Hoagie ™ (eb7063)

  33. Millhouse

    Do you condone evangelicals who lay hands on people?

    pinandpuller (c16705)

  34. Boris – I think that that man has no business placing his hands on a woman in such a manner. Period. You apparently believe this is okay for a man to do. It says more about you than it does me.

    JD (34f761)

  35. Ditto Hoagie and your BS equivalency. Just because something worse happens elsewhere does not mean this is acceptable.

    JD (34f761)

  36. #FreeCorey

    happyfeet (831175) — 3/11/2016 @ 8:45 am

    Free corey from what? Responsibility of assault and battery on and innocent woman doing her job?

    And now there is more video out contradicting Breibart’s video/pictures saying it couldn’t have happened.

    Patterico is right. Once people believe someone can do no wrong, they’ll believe anything. Here is the timeline of events:

    Trump Supporters: It didn’t happened! There is no pictures of injuries, there’s no witnesses, there’s no audio, there’s no video, she just makes things up, and she didn’t file a police report! She’s just a wussy!
    After witnesses: It didn’t happened! There is no pictures of injuries, there’s no audio, there’s no video, , she just makes things up, and she didn’t file a police report! She’s just a wussy!
    After pictures of bruises: It didn’t happened! There is no audio, there’s no video, she just makes things up, and she didn’t file a police report! She’s just a wussy!
    After audio: It didn’t happened! There is no video,she just makes things up, and she didn’t file a police report! She’s just a wussy!
    After video showing she didn’t make things up previously: It didn’t happened! There is no video, and she didn’t file a police report! She’s just a wussy!
    After video: It didn’t happened! She didn’t file a police report! She’s just a wussy!
    After the police report: It didn’t happened! She’s just a wussy!

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  37. Your rudeness says plenty about you, JD.

    Boris (fe733d)

  38. funny how the macaca press boy’s accounting is so dissimilar to the transcript

    Ben Terris’ account

    “I’m just a little spooked,” she said, a tear streaming down her face. “No one has grabbed me like that before.”

    Transcript

    Fields: “That was insane. You should have felt how hard he grabbed me. That’s insane. I’ve never had anyone do that to me from a campaign.”

    Terris: “Can I put that in my story?”

    Fields: “Yeah, go for it — that was really awful. That’s so unprofessional.”

    Terris: “He really just almost threw you down on the ground.”

    Fields: “He literally went like this and was grabbing me down. “I don’t even want to do what he just did to me. Oh my God, that really spooked me that someone would do that.”

    the streaming tear’s an especially nice touch i think

    happyfeet (831175)

  39. It is fascinating that Trump, the Trump campaign, and his supporters on this blog all focus on the imagined failings of the woman who was involved in this event. It’s right out of Obama’s playbook. Isolate (she has a history of this stuff …), immobilize (she lied about who did this to her …), and ridicule (boris playing soccer, hf she needs to go to popo, even Hoagie, she needs to man up basically.)

    The truth is different. She has a history of this stuff because she goes in places most of wouldn’t go. She didn’t lie, but was misinformed by someone she thought had witnessed the event. And the ridicule says a lot about those who can’t come up with something more substantial, and has nothing to do with the issue.

    In my view, which is tempered by RFK’s assassination by a muslim in Long Beach in 1968, the two attempts on Ford in 1975, etc., events like these are fraught with danger. I can understand the guard’s concern. If she had attempted to grab Trump, then there would be no doubt that the guard acted correctly. But under the circumstances, she is probably owed an apology by both the guard and Trump, but nothing more.

    It is not a good sign that Trump opts to discredit the person who complained instead of discovering what actually happened. This is like Obama jumping on the Cambridge police when they arrested one of his Harvard Professors as he was crawling through a window into his own house. I’ve had enough of Obama, and four more years of similar behavior is not pleasant to contemplate.

    The real question is whether the candidates should be so accessible.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  40. Mr. Bob there are good good good reasons why reporters don’t get the benefit of the doubt

    (they earned it)

    happyfeet (831175)

  41. Fields: “Yeah, I don’t understand. That looks horrible. You’re going after a Breitbart reporter, the people who are nicest to you?”

    that tells you SO SO much about Michelle’s journalistic integrity, that she so reflexively goes there

    and none of it’s good

    happyfeet (831175)

  42. hf, so prove them wrong with facts.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  43. There are none so blind as those who love a badgerhead because he hates ragheads.

    nk (9faaca)

  44. Sarah Palin endorses Trump the ‘Planned Parenthood does good work’ guy; Planned Parenthood was formed by Progressives as their way of killing off people like Sarah Palin’s precious baby Trig.

    Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit endorsing Trump has replaced Charles ‘the lizard’ Johnson of Little Green Footballs as the blogosphere’s most overt distorter of truth and justice.

    Brain-surgeon Ben Carson, Trump’s psychotic child molester, is endorsing Trump because Trump is two people.

    Falwell, Jr is endorses Trump because he thinks Trump will protect Christian while Trump’s media megaphone Matt Drudge is beginning his assault on Cruz for his being too out-there evangelical Christiany.

    Breitbart.com killed Andrew when they cared more about protecting Donald Trump and his thuggish campaign manager than they do their own Breitbart.com reporter.

    Trump Transforming America, based upon these past actions the next logical act of madness is for Obama to officially endorse Trump.

    Susan (df5e2f)

  45. i don’t think physically steering someone away from the next leader of the free whirl
    happyfeet (831175) — 3/11/2016 @ 8:24 am

    You still haven’t figured out that he’s going to get crushed in November? Or maybe you prefer Hillary to Pres. Cruz which I think is a distinct possibility.

    Gerald A (945582)

  46. No, Bob, what’s out of the left’s playbook is manufactured hysteria over every piddling little thing.

    Boris (fe733d)

  47. the popo?

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  48. Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) runs strong here. Otherwise rational people suddenly become rude, abusive, and vindictive to the point they become unrecognizable. JD is usually a solid, thoughtful, individual, but when it comes to Trump he’s every bit as ugly and obnoxious as one on Hillary’s kool-ade drinkers. And, it’s not fair to single out JD, there are at least a dozen fellow sufferers of TDS demonstrating the syndrome’s symptoms.

    There’s a PHD dissertation here, just waiting for some bright grad student in Psychology or Sociology.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  49. BTW, Boris, if your wife (or daughter or sister or mother ) had “a couple of barely-there bruises” and claimed they were manhandled, would you call them snowflakes and then defend their assailant?

    Pons Asinorum (49e2e8)

  50. Mr. Bob the people what need to do the provings in a case like this are the popo what are trained in the analysis of subtle clues, who know the relevant laws and regulations, and who have access to CSI laboratories and such.

    Michelle, as a “journalist,” should know better than to start yammering her head off on tv and making allegations that aren’t supported with solid proof.

    How did that work for Dan Rather?

    Very very poor judgment on her part I think.

    I’m very disappointed in her.

    happyfeet (831175)

  51. Anyone notice how happyfeet suddenly thinks highly of Carson? That certainly wasn’t the case before he endorsed Trump.

    Gerald A (945582)

  52. You still haven’t figured out that he’s going to get crushed in November?

    this is not my problem

    it’s a low stakes election

    important thing for me is to see the voters castrate the establishment trash and humiliate them publicly

    happyfeet (831175)

  53. Pons, you jump from “claimed” straight to the assumption that this woman was in fact assailed. And I didn’t call anyone anything; name calling seems to be JD’s specialty.

    Boris (fe733d)

  54. Anyone notice how happyfeet suddenly thinks highly of Carson? That certainly wasn’t the case before he endorsed Trump.

    yes yes yes before he endorsed Mr. Trump I thought he was a risible candidate, a lispy fruit loop

    but now he’s ok in my book

    at least for now

    happyfeet (831175)

  55. Trump lied

    Reporters cried

    pinandpuller (a12946)

  56. Breitbart.com killed Andrew when they cared more about protecting Donald Trump and his thuggish campaign manager than they do their own Breitbart.com reporter.

    Oh, they did it long before that.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  57. She Bruise Easy

    …There’s signals in the morning
    The freeze has caught the dew
    As fragile as she’s stormy
    Careful don’t storm in
    Like you do

    ‘Cause she bruise easy
    You’ll break the spell
    And she won’t come around…

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  58. but when it comes to Trump he’s every bit as ugly and obnoxious as one on Hillary.

    Yes, he is. That’s precisely the problem.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  59. except breitbart is funded by oxford analytics, which is ted cruz’s leading contributor, mercer,

    so instead of jumping to the greg stillson template, maybe a little caution should have been considered,

    narciso (732bc0)

  60. seems plausible that the most significant end result of this is gonna be that

    it’s gonna be harder going forward for real reporters to do their job I think

    that’s my working hypothesis anyways

    happyfeet (831175)

  61. Seems “Snowflake” is the new pejorative preferred by Trumpeters.

    That’s good I think. It’s meaningless and has the advantage of being easy to spell.

    Davebo (3cf6ff)

  62. 35.Ditto Hoagie and your BS equivalency. Just because something worse happens elsewhere does not mean this is acceptable.

    Once again, JD, for either the reading impaired or too stubborn to care: Who said it was scceptable? I’m just saying in the scheme of things it’s unimportant.

    Rev. TrusTED Hoagie ™ (eb7063)

  63. like I say, is he a reliable witness,

    http://www.newsbusters.org/people-organizations/ben-terris

    narciso (732bc0)

  64. So does A-hole, Davebo and it has fewer letters.

    Rev. TrusTED Hoagie ™ (eb7063)

  65. Davebo

    Re snowflake

    Cruzers keep saying winter is coming.

    pinandpuller (c16705)

  66. funny how the macaca press boy’s accounting is so dissimilar to the transcript

    happyfeet (831175) — 3/11/2016 @ 8:59 am

    Well you know tears running down a face can’t be heard on audio right? And the accounting actually sounds very similar to the transcript, so I don’t know what your point is.

    I also didn’t realize that bruises and witness statements aren’t considered “solid proof”. Who knew?

    Trump Stockholm Syndrome runs strong here. There should be a social study on how people will defend Trump and his thugs no matter the evidence.

    The end of this will have Corey charged, I think, for assault and battery. I’m sure he will plead down, but this will be jumped on by the media if Trump gets the nomination. “See, Republicans hate women!” Trump will lose, and the establishment won’t be punished (that would take a Cruz nomination), but the people will.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  67. Happyfeet, @2: wow. So expecting not to be assaulted is “special snowflakism”? Because assaults are simply to be expected, I suppose, as a normal part of doing business in modern America.

    Honestly, that reaction disturbs me more than the assault itself did.

    ————————

    Rev TrusTED Hoagie, @10:

    on some level, what you’re arguing is that getting physically bruised, and being assaulted, is simply part of the job of being a journalist.

    When did that become true? And why should we tolerate it?

    ————————

    DRJ, at 24: on some level, if you feel like the rules have been used to screw you, it’s rational to develop a disdain for and hatred of the rules. I get that.

    And yet: this behavior, and some of the reactions to it, show a real sign of “anyone who questions us is the enemy and should be treated as such”, which is terrifying to watch.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  68. Breitbart is withdrawing the accusation against Lewandowski. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/trump-presser-ben-terris-misidentified. Terris probably misidentified a security guy who was perhaps just doing his job. What? A Washington Post reporter got a story wrong?

    Neil Ferguson (9ddac2)

  69. Hoagie, a certain ornamental should have such an “unimportant” thing happen to her. Maybe it would be less “unimportant” then. Also, there are two letters waiting here for you. The sixth and the twenty-first.

    John Hitchcock (794fe0)

  70. Mr. aphrael I drink a whisky drink and I drink a vodka drink and I drink a lager drink, and also I drink a cider drink

    i sing the songs what reminder me of the good times

    i sing the songs what reminder me of the better times

    happyfeet (831175)

  71. regardless, the narrative is in place, and it will line 6, in the wiki,

    narciso (732bc0)

  72. “snowflake” is the pejorative that i’ve seen for a long time to be used to people who think the rules don’t apply to them for some reason.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  73. Mad cow disease started out as a disease of cannibals and brain surgeons. Just saying.

    nk (9faaca)

  74. Mr. aphrael, Michelle is being a snowflake and a pipsywizzle I think, and i will tell you why

    1. The first reason I think picklepoo is getting her snowflake on is cause of this:

    Terris: “Can I put that in my story?”

    Fields: “Yeah, go for it — that was really awful. That’s so unprofessional.”

    She has absolutely no idea what’s just happened or why, did not get a clear look at who she just interacted with, and she wants to rush it into the press? This is very poor judgment, and piss-poor reporting besides. That is reason number 1.

    2. If you listen to the audio, she doesn’t sound particularly traumatized really… she sounds mostly like she got her widdle snowflake feelings hurt. That is the second reason I think she’s a silly pipsywizzle.

    3. I might could think of other reasons, but third and most important is… Does picklepoo think by being a big whiny baby she’s going to make it easier for people to cover presidential campaigns, or harder?

    She doesn’t appear to give this any thought at all.

    I think she may very well have done grievous harm to her “profession” – not that I really care, just that I would’ve been much more circumspect than action girl reporter I think, and that’s the third reason I think she’s not A+++ 5 gold stars scratch-n-sniff stickerworthy.

    happyfeet (831175)

  75. As far as I’m concerned, the GOP should wait until most of the state deadlines have passed for independent bids, the declare that Trump presents a clear and present danger to the nation and change the convention rules to ban him from nomination.

    Let his supporters vote for Hillary and be damned. This has gone too far.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  76. oh look it’s Mr. grumpypants!

    oh wait no that’s Kevin M

    hah at first I thought you were Mr. grumpypants, just cause of how your comment sounded, then I got to the end and realized nonono it’s you

    ok I’m a go make some lunch

    happyfeet (831175)

  77. Hi Kevin,

    if you look at https://ballotpedia.org/Filing_deadlines_and_signature_requirements_for_independent_presidential_candidates,_2016 you’ll see that the filing deadlines for the overwhelming majority of states would be *after* the conventions.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  78. Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) runs strong here. Otherwise rational people suddenly become rude, abusive, and vindictive to the point they become unrecognizable. JD is usually a solid, thoughtful, individual, but when it comes to Trump he’s every bit as ugly and obnoxious as one on Hillary’s kool-ade drinkers. And, it’s not fair to single out JD, there are at least a dozen fellow sufferers of TDS demonstrating the syndrome’s symptoms.

    There’s a PHD dissertation here, just waiting for some bright grad student in Psychology or Sociology.

    ropelight (3f0a14) — 3/11/2016 @ 9:18 am

    That might be true if Trump University had a psych or sociology department. But it only has a Department of Fleecing Suckers.

    Chances are that said “bright grad student” (at a REAL university) would instead choose to focus on how a grassroots conservative movement intent on combating crony capitalists and an egomanical Constitution-subverting progressive could be mass-seduced into supporting an inexperienced, egomaniacal crony capitalist who has displayed no knowledge of or concern for the Constitution.

    L.N. Smithee (1ed226)

  79. Many more accounts are out now about the battery.

    A Trump staffer did bruise the reporter’s arm, knocking her down with an arm grab, because she asked a question of Trump after he was ready to leave. That’s just a fact. The question is whether the Trump staffer who beat the reporter was this Lewendowski guy or a similar looking security guy. But there’s no question it happened. There’s no question Lewendowski’s claim that Fields is delusional and the Trump campaigns claim she’s dishonest are both thuggish character assassinations, now SOP for any Trump critic. Trump was there and knows this happened so his behavior shows (again) his lack of integrity.

    He in unfit for office. You do not want this man to be your president. This isn’t the first time in recent months Trump has been cool with thuggish treatment of his opposition.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  80. that’s really despicable how Michelle fingered Mr. Corey in the press without having a handle on all the facts

    bad reporter, is the least you can say

    happyfeet (831175)

  81. Breitbart is withdrawing the accusation against Lewandowski. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/trump-presser-ben-terris-misidentified. Terris probably misidentified a security guy who was perhaps just doing his job. What? A Washington Post reporter got a story wrong?

    Neil Ferguson (9ddac2) — 3/11/2016 @ 10:09 am

    Breitbart’s treatment of their own has been terrible. And their shilling for Trump has been embarrassing for many months now. Everyone knows they spin things in his favor, desperately at times.

    Your spin is also embarrassing. Your defense admits a Trump campaign staffer did the assault, but forgive it as ‘his job’. No, it’s not security’s job to beat up reporters who ask a question and pose no threat whatsoever. If your theory is correct then Trump’s campaign has lied about what happened, and they should be ashamed of attacking Fields’s character when she was in fact harmed physically. But there’s no reason to accept your theory yet as you weren’t there.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  82. > No, it’s not security’s job to beat up reporters who ask a question and pose no threat whatsoever.

    Not yet. But soon it will be.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  83. Mr. aphrael if charges are brought against somebody then reporters will have to stay in their special safe places from now on

    we can call them Fields Zones in honour of Michelle Fields who pioneered them

    happyfeet (831175)

  84. >then reporters will have to stay in their special safe places from now on

    Because just like the freedom of speech only applies in ‘special places’, the freedom from assault only exists in ‘special places’.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  85. happyfeet, I’ve seen you hyperventilate over a series of incredibly minor things over the past several months. Now you’re upset that an issue is made of Trump’s campaign roughing up a reporter who asked a question.

    You used to be better than that. I have been frustrated by politics too, but my integrity remains. Where did yours go?

    aphrael is right. This bodes ill for the future. Both parties have a sizeable number who would be hacks to defend what they know is extremely wrong. Instead of building the future for the next generation, we’re leaving one with fewer rights, nastier leaders, and mountains of debt and global problems. For pride, too. That’s all you’re defending Trump for.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  86. whose fault is that, the ones who let the reid’s pet poodle, ‘the bearded marxist’ walk into the senate, when the results turned out much the same as 2010, it was squirrels, of course, we could bring up how miller was sabotaged to facilitate veruca salt, need we move over to mississippi or kansas, where bogus issues were conjured up,

    narciso (732bc0)

  87. I wish there was video.

    The question on my mind is what, exactly, was Fields doing? *If* she charged in and blocked Trump from trying to continue on his way, and was aggressive about it, then that’s one thing (and IMHO warrants forcible removal, which a Secret Service agent would have done if close). *If*, in the other hand, she did not attempt to physically impose on Trump or others, and as reported simply tried to ask a question, then this is assault (And Fields should ask for charges to be filed).

    I’m not trying to argue for or against either of the above interpretations, I’d just like to know what actually happened.

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  88. i have super-good integrity Mr. Dustin I promise

    i think she’s not doing herself any credit, i think she’s not doing her employer any credit, and i think she’s not doing her profession any credit

    if i said otherwise i’d be sacrificing my integrity and for what?

    happyfeet (831175)

  89. And yet: this behavior, and some of the reactions to it, show a real sign of “anyone who questions us is the enemy and should be treated as such”, which is terrifying to watch.

    In light of what we’ve been dealing with since 2008, and all the people of the left who are now wringing their hands about the specter of a Trump or certainly a Ted Cruz presidency based on the assumption such Republicans will abuse the power of the office, excuse me while I either stifle a guffaw or shed a tear.

    thecommonsenseshow.com: It was shocking when President George W. Bush stated “you are either with us, or you are with the terrorists.” Senior White House Advisor, Valerie Jarrett, has taken these words to a significantly more dramatic level when she stated that “there will be hell to pay” for Obama’s critics in the second term.

    Iranian-born Communist sympathizer Valerie Jarrett and Barack Obama’s Senior White House Adviser is strongly rumored, from multiple sources, that just prior to the recent general election, to have issued a clear threat against the rank and file members of the American public who do not support Pres. Obama. Allegedly Jarrett said “After we win this election, it is payback time. For those who supported us, there will be rewards, for the ones who opposed us, they will get what they deserve. There will be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. With no election to worry about, we have two judges ready to go.”

    Mark (6c93d5)

  90. aphrael–

    Yes, but what about when they were on a party ballot for that state’s primary?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  91. Kevin M – i’m not sure how that would effect the filing *deadline*.

    It might prevent filing at all, but ballotpedia seems to think the e ffect of those laws is minimal:

    > https://ballotpedia.org/%22Sore_loser%22_laws_for_presidential_candidates

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  92. Mark – please note that I’m being very careful to confine my hand-wringing to a Trump presidency, and I’m likely to reregister as a Republican and vote for Sen. Cruz.

    I don’t particularly like Sen. Cruz’ politics, and think that a Cruz presidency would not be good for the nation; *but* I also think he’s operating in the realm of politics and not revolution.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  93. Having seen video of that scrum, it’s quite possible that the Secret Service agent walking next to Cory was the guy who yanked her out of the way. I have no doubt that they are really quite nervous every time Trump bulls through a crowd like that. Shoving something towards Trump would probably cause a quick judgement call.

    Still, if that was the case, they should have just said so, and apologized for the understandable mistake.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  94. We now have video proof of Lewandoski grabbing Fields.

    Time to give up the denials. It happened, its battery, and he needs to be charged.

    She’s doing herself, and her profession a lot of credit by sticking to the facts (which was clear when it happened despite what the deniers say) and filing a police report. If Lewandoski just apologized, this would be nothing. But he refused, and now is in a world of trouble.

    Unfortunately her employer is doing her no credit by throwing her under the bus.

    Its too bad that people are all so willing to give a pass to those who assault and batter women doing their job, and then call them names because they don’t take physical violence lightly.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  95. aphrael–

    If anything, it would apply to the deadline for exiting the primary. That has come up before, and Trump is probably past that point. Not that any of this will happen. If Trump gets the nomination, then they have to decide whether to live with it, or to run Romney.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  96. Pons, you jump from “claimed” straight to the assumption that this woman was in fact assailed. And I didn’t call anyone anything; name calling seems to be JD’s specialty.

    Boris (fe733d) — 3/11/2016 @ 9:25 am

    No, I asked a hypothetical question: “if your wife (or daughter or sister or mother ) had a couple of barely-there bruises and claimed they were manhandled, would you call them snowflakes and then defend their assailant?”

    You did not answer it. You’re not required to do so, and I don’t blame you.

    For some, the question is difficult, needs qualifiers, or depends. For others, it is an easy one.

    I got my answer.

    And I didn’t call anyone anything; name calling seems to be JD’s specialty.

    Hmm…is this yours Boris?

    BTW, JD, if you think that a couple of barely-there bruises is evidence of “manhandling” then I guess we know who the real snowflake is.

    Boris (fe733d) — 3/11/2016 @ 8:47 am

    Pons Asinorum (49e2e8)

  97. PH, that video shows the SS agent moving purposefully towards Fields before it all disappears behind some equipment. Cory reaches out at the end, but 1) the SS agent is past him and 2) Cory has no leverage.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  98. Kevin – the point of ballotpedia’s page is that in practice there is no effective rule against the loser in one primary running *for president* as an independent or the candidate of another party, even in places where the loser of non-presidential primaries can’t do that.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  99. Aphrael–

    There are other discussions. Most states have “sore loser laws”. All are different. Some exclude presidential contests, some only apply to 3rd party candidates, others only apply to independent candidates. No doubt some are unconstitutional (favoring major parties, irrational signature rules, etc). It’s a mess.

    See for example here: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/politics/trump-third-party-run-barriers/

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  100. In that video PH links, everything happens between 0:05 and 0:10. It seems like a SS takedown. If that was the ruling on the field it would not be overturned.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  101. A police report was filed today by Michelle Fields with the Jupiter FL police department. It was logged as a misdemeanor battery. The police department press release and the Incident Report is available here.

    DRJ (15874d)

  102. The police department issued an earlier press release here. The link in my comment 102 is to an Updated press release.

    DRJ (15874d)

  103. aphrael,

    It makes me happy to think you and I might vote for the same person.

    DRJ (15874d)

  104. *smile*

    please don’t take it as a conversion to the conservative cause; take it more as an alliance against an enemy. :)

    it’s funny – Donald Trump is the first politician in my adult life that I’ve really felt comfortable calling an *enemy*.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  105. Kevin M

    In light of Trump=Hitler the reference to an “SS agent” made me do a double take.

    I guess that means there was a second manhandler…back and to the left.

    pinandpuller (0845e7)

  106. Patterico voting for Cruz, yep.
    DRJ voting for Cruz, uh-huh.
    JD voting for Cruz, ‘kay

    aphrael voting for Cruz…?…!…wait, what?….Holy Sheeet!

    Enemy of my enemy it’s my friend, indeed. Welcome aboard aphrael!

    Will they let you back in San Jose???

    Pons Asinorum (32fd6f)

  107. Pons – only in the primary, mind you :)

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  108. And more video that’s a mashup of a couple angles and the audio. Really shows what went down.

    No longer can anybody deny Lewandoski grabbed her.

    Of course people will still say she deserve it, as if its okay.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  109. Another view from C-SPAN via Town Hall:

    New C-SPAN Video Clearly Shows Trump Campaign Manager Grabbing For Reporter Michelle Fields

    The link is loading slowly, probably because there is significant traffic.

    DRJ (15874d)

  110. Oh, got it.
    But still happy, we’ll take it!

    Pons Asinorum (32fd6f)

  111. that couldn’t be more inconclusive if it was directed by the wachooski sisters

    happyfeet (831175)

  112. Lol, #111 was for aphrael.

    Pons Asinorum (32fd6f)

  113. The Daily Beast says this still shows the moment Lewandowski grabbed Fields.

    DRJ (15874d)

  114. Let the police sort it out, including asking Ben Terris if he stands by his ID of Lewandowski. Terris was earlier today.

    DRJ (15874d)

  115. Breitbart.com is backing down on this story:

    The Scrum: Video Shows Lewandowski Reaching in Michelle Fields’s Direction

    Fields should have another job because Breitbart does not have her back. The Daily Beast supports its reporters more than Breitbart.

    DRJ (15874d)

  116. From the Breitbart link:

    Update 3:55 p.m. ET: A sequence of screenshots, corresponding to seconds 0:09-0:10 in the C-SPAN video, illustrates Lewandowski reaching towards Fields:

    DRJ (15874d)

  117. I want to defend Republicans but this is indefensible. Whether Trump is the nominee or not (but especially if he is), the media narrative against Hillary will be:

    Trump Tolerates Staff Beating Up Women

    and

    Trump Tolerates Supporters Beating Up Blacks

    . That will be a disaster.

    DRJ (15874d)

  118. Mr. Trump is gentle and kind – his soulful eyes

    my god

    they’re full of stars

    happyfeet (831175)

  119. He may have reached toward her — none of these videos show anything really — but it was the Secret Service agent who was purposely moving toward her and would have been perfectly within his rights to grab hold of her if he was concerned.

    You do realize that the detail is on high alert around Trump right now, and the scrum he was moving through was number one on their list of Things Not To Do?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  120. DRJ – given how the Trump campaign has responded to date, that narrative seems likely to be *justified*, unfortunately.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  121. DRJ–

    Fields never saw who grabbed her. It’s not her story they disputed.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  122. poor pipsywizzle her life is spiraling out of control

    she needs a xanax

    a ctrl+alt+del

    someone to believe in her

    hugs

    aromatherapy

    nicholas sparks movies

    to get caught midst a rose garden by a warm spring rain

    she needs redemption

    a new mantra

    a hayride with a handsome stranger

    but all she’s got is bitterness and bruises

    and anger

    so much anger

    happyfeet (831175)

  123. #118, DRJ, …the media narrative against Hillary…???

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  124. The media narrative with Hillary in the race.

    DRJ (15874d)

  125. Of freaking COURSE she couldn’t have done this yesterday, all but forcing the incident into the debate, when it actually could have bruised Trump’s campaign.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  126. My comment was about Republicans vs Hillary, and the media narrative against Republicans in the race against Hillary will be:

    Trump Tolerates Staff Beating Up Women

    and

    Trump Tolerates Supporters Beating Up Blacks

    . Get used to it. You’re going to see it all the time once the GOP nominates someone, especially if it is Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  127. Team Trump was afraid of questions by Megyn Kelly.
    Now they admit to being afraid of questions by Michelle Fields.
    But they can handle Iran, ISIS, North Korea, and China. And Hillary Clinton!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  128. you’re being sarcastic on purpose

    happyfeet (831175)

  129. Cruz Supporter – naturally. Trump is a good negotiator who will negotiate the best deals, remember?

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  130. I agree 100% with DRJ’s comment above (#127), in which she wrote, “Get used to it. You’re going to see it all the time once the GOP nominates someone, especially if it is Trump.”

    Yes, this was what I meant after Trump’s promise to force our military to commit war crimes by targeting terrorists’ families. The Dems always accuse the GOP candidate of being a baby-killer, but only Trump deliberately hands them validation for that accusation — and any of a thousand other nasty accusations, some unfair and others, well, quite fair indeed, unfortunately.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  131. Fields never saw who grabbed her. It’s not her story they disputed.

    They certainly cast doubt on it. Yes, it’s true Fields didn’t know who grabbed her and she couldn’t identify Lewandowski as the assailant. On the other hand, Terris identified Lewandowski so it couldn’t be ruled out. Nevertheless, Breitbart.com initially reported that the person who grabbed Fields “likely was not Corey Lewandowski.”

    Thus, Breitbart had a witness that it was Lewandowski and it had a muddled, unclear video. That’s basically what we have now. Can you or anyone report with certainly that it likely was (or that it likely wasn’t) Lewandowski? I can’t but Breitbart can.

    DRJ (15874d)

  132. So what is the latest in this Telenovela?

    Did our fair doyen accuse the right person?

    Did she make it up?

    Has Mr Lewdonkey resigned?

    Is Trump Hitler?

    Rodney King's Spirit (3adc86)

  133. Another primary election, another Trump victory, another magic bullet to kill Trump. Same people, same manufactured outrage, same mob tactics, same idiot nonsense.

    Repeating the same activity and expecting a different result is what………?

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  134. Battery charges for grabbing someone? LOL!!!!!!

    Can wait till Black Lives Matters hears Republicans are advocating charges for grabbing people.

    Folks on the right are as mental as the left with this Trump thing.

    Beware what you wish for kiddos, you will be swallowed in the madness.

    Rodney King's Spirit (3adc86)

  135. This won’t kill Trump. He will fire Lewandowski and continue on.

    But the narrative is set. Trump supports killing terrorists’ wives and babies, he defends staff who beat up women, and he tolerates supporters who sucker-punch blacks. It is classic Jacksonianism — to win at all costs — but only about 1/4 of Americans are Jacksonians and they won’t tolerate this.

    DRJ (15874d)

  136. To clarify, the Americans who won’t tolerate this are the 3/4 who aren’t Jacksonians.

    DRJ (15874d)

  137. Of course Trump is not Hitler. Hitler was much shorter. Rudolph Hess maybe?

    nk (9faaca)

  138. DRJ, I am glad you are mentioning the Jacksonian view of things. It sure does read that way.

    That would be paradoxically better, I think, than what I fear…

    A successful President Huey Long.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  139. Ropelight – your histrionics are funny. Pointing out awful behavior becomes the topic of a PhD dissertation on Trump derangement syndrome. You clowns just can’t handle legitimate criticism, and hide behind your cult of personality, leading to things like this, where you deflect, minimize or give tacit approval of bad actions. Nobody would tolerate this if it was done to their daughter, but because it was someone on the right that dared offer a question, you will slime her, blame the victim, and otherwise excise bad behavior. It is sad.

    JD (34f761)

  140. Simon Jester,

    I share your concern. Trump’s supporters are Jacksonians but I’m not sure he is. Trump embraces the Jacksonian style but he seems much closer to Huey Long than Andrew Jackson.

    DRJ (15874d)

  141. Like Andrew Jackson, Trump isn’t concerned about the Consitution, tradition, precedent or principles. Both oppose elite rule and profess concern for the common man. I think Jackson believed it. I’m not sure Trump does.

    DRJ (15874d)

  142. Mr. Trump is the voluptuous goddess of democracy made real

    he’s come to nurture a broken land

    to clutch it to his healing bosoms and imbue it with new vitality

    to make it great again!

    hallelujah, brothers and sisters

    we march at dawn

    happyfeet (831175)

  143. I’m also not convinced need a Jacksonian President who is willing to break every rule to solve domestic problems. I will fight foreign wars with a Jacksonian President, but I don’t want him to run roughshod over Americans at home.

    DRJ (15874d)

  144. Assuming this is a real tweet and I think it is, Fields will be on Megyn Kelly’s show tonight. This story isn’t going away today.

    DRJ (15874d)

  145. Trump is smart to put Pierson on the Kelly show, because it will be a woman defending him from another woman. On the other hand, it’s notable that they aren’t putting Lewandowski on the show to deny the story.

    DRJ (15874d)

  146. DRJ – It is most definitely a variation on the patented Friday news dump. Full marks to Megyn for the spotlight she put on this last night, but regrettably, her show was opposite the debate and got lost in the shuffle, as, I fear, the Fields developments today will.

    I sure hope and pray you are correct and I am wrong.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  147. definitely not an attention-seeker

    happyfeet (831175)

  148. I don’t have a crystal ball, Ed, and this story may go away tomorrow but I doubt it. There are multiple media organizations involved now — the Washington Post, Breitbart, the Daily Beast and now Fox News. That is a wide range of the media spectrum and this involves the media’s reporters, not just the politicians’ actions and reputations. The media has something at stake here, too, and they may not let this story go.

    DRJ (15874d)

  149. Happyfeet is a good little footsoldier in service of Teh Narrative. The marching orders have been issued.

    JD (34f761)

  150. Plus the Daily Caller, since Fields’ boyfriend works for the Daily Caller and Breitbart reportedly tried to get Fields to silence him when he tweeted about this. Maybe the Daily Caller will sit this one out, or maybe not.

    DRJ (15874d)

  151. the bruises may fade but the scars

    the scars will last forever

    happyfeet (831175)

  152. Now The Blaze is involved, Breitbart’s spokesman has quit (apparently over this story but it’s not clear), and Fields and her boyfriend are Twitter-feuding with Lewandowski.

    DRJ (15874d)

  153. Breitbart is withdrawing the accusation against Lewandowski. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/trump-presser-ben-terris-misidentified. Terris probably misidentified a security guy who was perhaps just doing his job. What? A Washington Post reporter got a story wrong?

    Neil Ferguson (9ddac2) — 3/11/2016 @ 10:09 am

    Breitbart’s treatment of their own has been terrible. And their shilling for Trump has been embarrassing for many months now. Everyone knows they spin things in his favor, desperately at times.

    Your spin is also embarrassing. Your defense admits a Trump campaign staffer did the assault, but forgive it as ‘his job’.

    Perhaps if you had lived through the murders of John Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, and M.L. King, and the attempted murders of Gerald Ford (twice), George Wallace, and Ronald Reagan, you would be a little more forgiving of security officials who are trying to protect the personal space of a controversial presidential candidate. I’m not a Trump fan, I don’t know whether the “security official” is a campaign staffer, I didn’t say he in fact did the shoving, and I’m not spinning (i.e. cynically misleading). Breitbart at this time isn’t sure who did what and why. Until we do, I’d say the people trying to turn this incident into an insta-scandal are the ones doing the spinning.

    Neil Ferguson (9ddac2)

  154. If Trump yells “You’re Fired” at Lewandowski, his polls may go up even more. Who hasn’t been waiting for Trump to do that?

    DRJ (15874d)

  155. Careful there Ferguson, JD might start calling you dirty names.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  156. daily beast lied

    pipsywizzle cried

    for wounded pride

    and vainly tried

    to abide

    but megyn called

    outraged, galled

    i’m a be on tv said pipsy, excitedly

    MOM CAN I BORROW YOUR EYE SHADOW I GOTTA TOUCH THESE BAD BOYS UP

    happyfeet (831175)

  157. Well, if from the get-go somebody came forth and said, “Yeah, Joe Security guard thought the crowd control was getting out of hand, and we regret that the young woman was bruised in the incident”,
    it would have gone away.
    hint, hint.

    MD in Philly (at the moment not in Philly) (50f11a)

  158. I don’t know. Right now, HF just seems to be a troll. Which is too bad. I keep hearing that he has great stuff to contribute. I’ve seen a few times, and it’s darned good. But more and more, just indistinguishable from weird trolling performance art.

    Whatevs. It sure is depressing to see. Thanks to the folks who persist in addressing issues. I learn a lot from you.

    Simon Jester (2c9c62)

  159. it IS depressing Mr. J

    the narrative being shopped here?

    is the same one i can get at gawker!

    GAWKER!

    Michelle can you borrow me a xanax sweetie

    happyfeet (831175)

  160. — What does Corey Lewandowski tell a woman with two black eyes?
    — Nothing. He’s already told her twice.

    nk (9faaca)

  161. –What does Corey Lewandowski’s wife do when she comes home?
    –The dishes if she knows what’ s good for her.

    nk (9faaca)

  162. Cute projection, ropelight.

    Another special one suggesting the possibility of an assassination attempt. Clearly Fergie didn’t watch the video, like the others didn’t.

    You guys are comical.

    JD (34f761)

  163. Andrew Jackson beat a would be assasin after the assasin’s pistol(pistols?) Failed to go off.

    Huey Long was successfully assassinated while running for president.

    I wonder how many anti-Trump people are hoping he’s Huey Long (not here of course).

    I believe Long wanted to put a cap on income and give stuff away so he sounded a little more like Sanders with more lead in his pencil.

    pinandpuller (928ad9)

  164. The Ghost of Abe Zapruder hangs over the incident.

    Colonel Haiku (11439f)

  165. JD, your fellow travelers are out in the streets of Chicago tonight. Birds of a feather…

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  166. When Cruz is elected president he can cut off funds to the sanctuary city of Chicago.

    mg (31009b)

  167. aphrael @68:

    Rev TrusTED Hoagie, @10:

    on some level, what you’re arguing is that getting physically bruised, and being assaulted, is simply part of the job of being a journalist.

    When did that become true? And why should we tolerate it?

    It became true? when journalists waded into the vast craphole called politics. She is neither the first nor the last to be, as you call “assaulted”, at a political rally. When real men did journalism, a bruise was considered a war wound and shown off like a badge of courage. Now snowflakes lawyer-up and whine about being abused. She and her bruise was not important then nor is it important now.

    70.Hoagie, a certain ornamental should have such an “unimportant” thing happen to her. Maybe it would be less “unimportant” then. Also, there are two letters waiting here for you. The sixth and the twenty-first.
    John Hitchcock

    Mr. Hitchcock, you really don’t understand that should my ornamental have something like that done to her it would most definitely be important. To me. To her. But, shockingly, not to the rest of the world. They don’t care. Oh, and my ornamental is no snowflake, she’d beat the crap out of the clown. It would be him crying to the media like a little girl.

    Mr. Hitchcock, you may disagree at any time but is telling me to F__k myself really necessary? What the heck happened to you? I used to read and agree with almost all your posts and now you’ve become this? Any person with whom you disagree any more you attack like an animal. What happened to you?

    Rev. TrusTED Hoagie ™ (eb7063)

  168. 152.the bruises may fade but the scars

    the scars will last forever
    happyfeet (831175)

    I’m laughing my butt off. happyfeet, you put it into perspective. Oh, the scars. Think she’ll suffer PTSD? From now on we need “safe places” at political events for snowflakes. It’s Trumps fault for not having “trigger warnings”.

    Rev. TrusTED Hoagie ™ (eb7063)

  169. Hoagie, maybe the Hitchcock we see now is the real Hitchcock, and he’s been this vindictive jerk all along. He was concealing his true self and we just didn’t see it. Although there were hints and insinuations all along, I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt. But, that’s over now.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  170. Those bruises are seared, seared, into my memory.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  171. 167. Cruz will be cutting those off to every city – he would be above rank pettiness. He’ll think long and hard about Chicago out of gratitude. The cancellation probably was wise considering Trumps very vocal Macaca moment in St.Louis.

    urbanleftbehind (6c451f)

  172. I think #143 should be enough to convince people that happyfeet is not pro-Trump the way people like ropelight and prowlerguy are pro-Trump.

    Leviticus (a8efb0)

  173. don’t ruin this for me dude

    happyfeet (831175)

  174. Ropelight. That is a lie, and you are a liar. I would never participate in such nonsense, endorse it, approve of it, or offer excuses for such noxious behavior, such as that shown in Chicago tonight.

    JD (d10a47)

  175. You still haven’t figured out that he’s going to get crushed in November?

    this is not my problem

    it’s a low stakes election

    important thing for me is to see the voters castrate the establishment trash and humiliate them publicly

    happyfeet (831175) — 3/11/2016 @ 9:25 am

    Well then don’t call Trump the next leader of the free world feets. Maybe after Hillary’s safely sworn in NBC will offer him his reality show back.

    Obviously you’re not concerned about who gets to appoint the next SCOTUS justice. Wonder why that is.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  176. Wonder why that is.

    seriously?

    if these butt-ugly berobed harvardtrash trollops can’t protect me from taxes fees taxes on utter crap i don’t wanna purchase then they’re already pretty effing useless to me

    happyfeet (831175)

  177. uselesser is not a word

    happyfeet (831175)

  178. Actually the evidence doesn’t support the narrative and Tetris is not to be trusted, in re his earlier record, e.g: Benny johson

    narciso (732bc0)

  179. JD, you say you’d never participate in such nonsense, endorse it, approve of it, or offer excuses for such noxious behavior yet you’ve been doing the next thing to it right here for weeks and weeks. And, if your think that’s a lie then read a few of your own comments.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  180. Most of us have indicated who we support, or, at least, how we lean. A few have only bloviated. You know who you are.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  181. Why is there #nevertrump, but not #neverobama, I’m speaking of Sutton/dillinger, or that bogus start treaty, or the gun control bill?

    narciso (732bc0)

  182. These mobs have burned two cities to the ground, now they want to be the arbiter of which poltical rallies can be conducted.

    narciso (732bc0)

  183. Ropelight – that is a lie, and you are a liar. Criticizing Trump and his sycophants on a blog is dramatically different than the lawless actions of the SJW protestors. I get it that you can’t handle criticism of your precious, but your devolution into a lying liar is sad.

    JD (d10a47)

  184. Anyone think the question Jake Tapper asked Trump during the debate about violence at Trump’s rallies and followed it up with a prepared list of Trump’s comments to protesters was a set-up for the subsequent accusation of strong-arm tactics against a woman reporter? Next, factor in tonight’s massive protest that was somehow organized without advance warning. Rubio calls them professional, paid, protesters. I call them Brownshirts.

    Now, consider the implications that CNN may have colluded with subversive leftist elements to deny a presidential candidate’s right to speak to his supporters.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  185. More conspiracy theories. Woot! Woot!

    JD (d10a47)

  186. Ropelight – had he not put his hands on the reporter, your entire fantasy would fall flat on its silly face. It is legit to ask him about violence at his events, given the recent cheap shots, sucker punches, and criminal charges.

    JD (d10a47)

  187. Who put their hands on the reporter? She said, he said. The video is inconclusive. Maybe her boyfriend grabbed her arm, maybe she grabbed her own arm, maybe someone in Trump’s entourage grabbed her. Maybe she doesn’t know who grabbed her. I sure don’t know who done it.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  188. BS. Witnesses. Video. Contemporaneous speech on audio. Keep your head in the … sand

    JD (d10a47)

  189. Maybe her boyfriend did it. Classic. He was not there.

    JD (d10a47)

  190. Maybe she got bruises on her arm before she went to the debate.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  191. Maybe she was trying to assassinate Trump. You sycophants are tiresome. Conspiracies everywhere.

    JD (d10a47)

  192. Maybe you don’t know how she got the bruises, and don’t care either. Maybe you hate Trump so much you’re willing to swallow any accusation whole so long as it somehow can be laid at Trump’s doorstep.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  193. Nope. The weight of the available evidence is overwhelming in one direction. But that direction is uncomfortable for you. So you make up conspiracies and attack the victim.

    JD (d10a47)

  194. Maybe there isn’t any evidence and you’re being played for a sucker.

    ropelight (3f0a14)

  195. it’s in the hands of the popo now

    happyfeet (831175)

  196. Keep your head planted firmly in … the sand, ropelight. A reporter from a crazy pro-trump website made up fictitious allegations, manufactured a contemporaneous audio, recruited a witness, and managed to make the video footage show him doing so, yet people like you think it is a conspiracy.

    JD (d10a47)

  197. A video showing him doing it? Sort of like the video that inspired the Benghazi attack – a video like that video?

    ropelight (afbacb)


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