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2/10/2016

New Ads From Trump And Cruz

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:46 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Donald Trump, during a speech in South Carolina, said this:

“Common Core we’re gonna keep.”

Which is confusing, because last night while giving his victory speech in New Hampshire, he said this:

We’re getting rid of Common Core. We’re going to educate our children…

(at the 10:15 mark)

Trump defenders are saying that he just misspoke and that there was more to the speech than just the sound bite. I tend to agree with Amanda Carpenter:

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Trump will say whatever the moment calls for. Which leads me to Ted Cruz’s new campaign ad which is aimed at Trump, the action figure who pretends to be a Republican:

I don’t think it’s as good as his previous ads, but it clearly makes the point that Trump is the Great Pretender who speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Which is funny because that is essentially the gist of Trump’s new ad aimed at Cruz in “What Kind of Man”. In this ad, Cruz is portrayed as the “worst kind of Washington insider”:

Of course it matters not a whit to loyal Trump supporters that the accusations brought forth in this ad have been handily debunked or explained.

–Dana

FURTHER THOUGHTS BY PATTERICO: Trump very likely had a brain fart there, enabled by the fact that he doesn’t even know what Common Core is. But here’s the real problem: Trump tried to cover it up by claiming he was talking about Jeb Bush’s policy:

That is a lie and Trump is a liar. The Right Scoop has the full context of his remarks and he was in no way, shape or form talking about Jeb Bush at that moment.

I had at least one person I usually like getting upset with me and calling me a “horse’s ass” on Twitter for pointing this out.

(It’s OK, I’m a big boy, I can take it.) But when Trump lies, we have to call him on it. We can’t keep holding him to a different standard than others because we think he’s a buffoon. I plan to flesh this argument out in the future, but I’m sticking a flag in the ground here for now.

49 Responses to “New Ads From Trump And Cruz”

  1. When will Marco come at Trump stating, “He knows exACTly what he is saying!”?

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  2. I borrowedd $10K from my investment account at Fidelity. Is that a “sweetheart” loan too, Ted? F**k You, Chump!

    Random Numbers (d5cd81)

  3. The meme that is developing is that it doesn’t matter what the Orange Toupee says. Similar to the Bernie Sanders business. So holding people responsible for their words is important. Good job.

    Simon Jester (0b73fb)

  4. Trump calling a margin loan on an investment account, one that could not be refused even if the CEO of GS passed a memo saying, “Don’t loan this guy anything!” is somehow a sweetheart deal means one of two things.

    1: He’s stupid and doesnt’t know what a margin loan is.

    2: He thinks the people are stupid and is lying to them.

    Random Numbers (d5cd81)

  5. Trump was against Common Core before he was for it. And once he finds out what it actually is, then he’ll make up his mind.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  6. Ed from SFV, you make a good point about Marco Rubio. He really should start attacking Trump’s lack of policy chops. But I think the wittier approach would be to say, “Donald Trump doesn’t know exactly what he’s doing!”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  7. Well it’s all well and good, but is there a non constructivist alternative?

    narciso (732bc0)

  8. Sad that Rump doesn’t know what a poison pill is.
    Seems like sTRUMPet Scandalous doesn’t know either: another
    low info voter.

    jb (8a9f1d)

  9. A Rump loan? that would be his daddy putting $3M into his casino
    illegally so Donnie would be able to stay afloat.

    jb (8a9f1d)

  10. Trump can’t be for or against Common Core. He doesn’t know what it is.

    Random Numbers (d5cd81)

  11. It’s always good to have fans on twitter.

    The Don says even negative press is good press.

    The only thing I’m confused about, you holding Trump to a different standard?
    Going easy on him and such.

    Sorry I missed that day.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  12. It’s the rhetorical “we.” But I admit I do it too. It would be impossible to call him out on every inane or dishonest statement he makes, because there are so many. After a while we all get exhausted.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  13. to be accurate, the children in the commercial should have the doll house blocking the doorway, and demand their parents pay 40,000% above their normal allowance to move it

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  14. anyone stupid enough to believe Cruz and his wife, got a SWEETHEART LOAN is a complete and utter fool.
    Anyone who wastes his/her time debating with ACE/ASS of SPADES is an utter Fool.
    Ace is a clown. Trump is a blow hard. Same thing.

    Gus (a084f0)

  15. If the Democrats didn’t scrape the very bottom of the barrel and select the very last two people who should be President of these united states, I would be ragging on Trump night and day.

    As it is, he catches a break from me because he’s only third last.

    Steve57 (f61b03)

  16. I don’t quite get the Don Quixote obsession tilting at windmills and listening to the wind howl in his ears but I suppose its more popular than music posts.

    DNF (755a85)

  17. But… have you noticed the candidates, both Cruz and Trump, are retreading our arguments, that “we” have litigated in blog comments (not the exact term, but don’t bust my balls) and discarded as unsupported beatups, and using them as attack ads?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  18. You know what it means? It means either;

    A. both campaigns have really lazy opposition research teams, or

    B. both candidates are good men with very few negatives.

    I prefer to go with B

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  19. Wow. That is some powerful rhetoric.

    I’m going to steal that line from “The Scandalous DJT@AceofSpadesHQ,” whoever or whatever that may be, and use it without attribution, but with great enthusiasm, the next time I’m in court on a big case for an important client. The transcript will read:

    MR. DYER: Your Honor! I object!
    COURT: On what grounds, Mr. Dyer?
    MR. DYER: My opponent is being a horse’s ass and I wish to end this silly microparsing horseshit!

    Positively Trumpian!

    Beldar (fa637a)

  20. Just don’t call me for jury duty.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  21. it wasn’t over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor

    just sayin’…

    redc1c4 (15347c)

  22. He’ll just repeal the odd-numbered laws. Most of ’em are bad anyway.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  23. How about an ad: “10 Things Donald Trump Does Not Know”

    10. The components of the US nuclear defense (the “Triad”)

    3. How to let other people talk.
    2. How to buy a toupee.
    1. How to stay out of bankruptcy

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  24. it wasn’t over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor

    Trump as Blutarski. You may be onto something, although Blutarski had more character.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  25. Sad that Rump doesn’t know what a poison pill is.

    I get the feeling that his whole life his managers set up all the deals for him and hope like hell he stays away until signing day, load him up with Xanax, put on his best toupee, and pray he doesn’t decide to call the other parties [slur deleted] and [slur deleted] before the papers are signed.

    And the moment he tries to change deal points, everyone stalls until he gets bored.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  26. common core is very important to british textbook slutco pearson plc

    we tamper with that, we tamper with their profits

    happyfeet (831175)

  27. Many SHEEPLE that get their cues from the media/pop culture….. all have their snarky opinion on Cruz…. But to those of us that have studied Cruz and line him up with the rest, there is no comparison. Cruz has true humility. Something most do not even recognizes after being brainwashed by the ego of BO for the last 8 years. On top of being extremely humble, he is gifted with great smarts and brilliance. His book is an amazing read and the audio version is even better. When he speaks….. his mind is moving so fast his words cannot keep up… if you watch you will see he practically trips over his words to keep up with how fast he is thinking. Trump may be confident and successful… yes, but he can’t do what needs to be done to erase all of Bo’s executive lawless orders…. NOR will Trump want to repeal obamacare or GO after the IRS as Cruz will do.

    JRT (bc7456)

  28. common core is nothing more than an indoctrination for colleges that are brainwashing institutions. The entire education system needs to be taken down because its broke. The reason tuition has doubled in the last 4 years is because for every one person that pays….4 others are getting it free through the government that is stealing from the one paying…. The economy can’t sustain this and more and more people are choosing NOT TO GO TO COLLEGE…

    JRT (bc7456)

  29. The Cruz ad is by far better then the scrooge Trump ad. Yes, the kids are annoying to watch but there is at least truth behind the ad against Trump. The ad against Cruz is as Made up as it looks to be…

    JRT (bc7456)

  30. just sent Cruz $100.00 I like to send him support when I can. I also will use the Amazon search on this page to support this site.

    JRT (bc7456)

  31. I borrowedd $10K from my investment account at Fidelity. Is that a “sweetheart” loan too, Ted? F**k You, Chump!

    Random Numbers (d5cd81) — 2/10/2016 @ 7:59 pm

    According to ropelight if you or your wife were employed by Fidelity that wouldn’t be allowed.

    Gerald A (5dca03)

  32. According to ropelight if you or your wife were employed by Fidelity that wouldn’t be allowed.

    Gerald A (5dca03) — 2/11/2016 @ 6:41 am

    I’ll be Carnac the Magnificent now and predict he’ll accuse me of misstating what he said.

    Gerald A (5dca03)

  33. http://politibrew.com/politics/4123-who-got-the-most-schlabang-for-the-buck-it-wasn-t-even-close

    for those that want to hit Ted. Ted has spent the least of every candidate and has raised the most from private donors.

    JRT (bc7456)

  34. All the Trumpkins care about is that he hates and disparages the right people.

    crazy (cde091)

  35. Here’s a picture of Trump without his toupee while on vacation in Thailand. Safe. http://i.imgur.com/eaXFu8d.jpg

    nk (dbc370)

  36. Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/11/2016 @ 12:40 am

    LOL!

    Reminds me of a physics proff I had (a million years ago) who would mercilously interogate a student who obviously knew nothing about which he spoke, saying: “Do you study just every other page? Do you expect to employ only the even numbered laws of physics?!”

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  37. My biggest problem is that when Trump is taken out of the landscape, people stop talking about Cruz. Makes me wonder if the powers the be see Cruz as a foil to Trump only. And will dispense their support of Cruz the moment Trump becomes not relevant. Then we’ll have been played successfully again.

    jpm100 (46cc0f)

  38. #36 nk,

    Man, that’s funny.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  39. I too have a dream
    that trump will be judged for teh
    orange squirrel hair swirl

    Colonel Haiku (47d8f4)

  40. Colonel, has anyone seen the birth certificate for that orange swirl that lives on top of his head? That thing’s alive! And it doesn’t look ‘American-made’ to me!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  41. #17, Tiger, yes, I’ve noticed the same thing for years. Patterico’s Pontifications is the premier American national politics comment driven site on the Internet. It’s the goto site for politicians, pundits, and talking heads – but they don’t cite PP – they modify word sequences to conceal the inspiration for their supposed insights.

    However, it’s clear professional media elites take our arguments and portray them as their own. I’m personally OK with it, but Patterico deserves national recognition (and our thanks) for hosting the most lively and best informational politics site ever.

    ropelight (6d8c45)

  42. @36..Ha Ha I Trumps defense don’t think he has ever had that problem…BUT 60%-70% of all men do

    JRT (bc7456)

  43. In Trumps defense….. have a surface screen keyboard and its so annoying to use. but I’m too cheap to but a new device.

    JRT (bc7456)

  44. The good news is Yellen isn’t backing away from further rate rises in 2016.

    All markets today take her at her word and are tanking, worldwide.

    Why good? Because the Donks get nothing.

    DNF (755a85)

  45. 4. Random Numbers (d5cd81) — 2/10/2016 @ 8:03 pm

    Trump calling a margin loan on an investment account, one that could not be refused even if the CEO of GS passed a memo saying, “Don’t loan this guy anything!” is somehow a sweetheart deal means one of two things.

    1: He’s stupid and doesnt’t know what a margin loan is.

    2: He thinks the people are stupid and is lying to them.

    Well, he thinks the people are ignorant. Never confuse ignorance with stupidity as somebdy once said. Trump was right too, that people didn’t know better, but he wouldn’t continue to be right if he continued running that ad, because the truth would get out, and he pulled it, giving as his reason, that he didn’t want to run negative ads.

    Cruz isn’t telling the truth about that, either, because he claimed he disclosed on the wrong form, but he didn’t dosclose the loan on the wrong form, he disclosed on a later form, after he was elected, that was filed for a different purpose, and he didn’t disclose there, I think, that the loan had collateral, because Senate financial disclosure rules didn’t require that kind of detail.

    He never disclosed that he put the money into the campaign until the New York Times began investigating a few months ago (if I understand this correctly) and during the 2012 campaign, he claimed he had SOLD his stocks.

    Sammy Finkelman (050b6e)

  46. 21. redc1c4 (15347c) — 2/10/2016 @ 11:51 pm

    it wasn’t over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor

    They didn’t, but they let the Japanese study how the British had bombed and destroyed the Italian fleet at Taranto, according to what Dusko Popov (British double cross [XX] agent TRICYCLE, the original model for James Bond – Ian Fleming had seen him during the war in Lisbon, Portugal) said he was told by Johnny Jebsen, his friend high in the Abwehr. The Germans also gave him a questionaire whose lead questions were about Pearl Harbor, and Jebsen pointed out to him what it meant.

    Japanese spies in Hawaii would have been very conspicuous, that’s why this was delegated to the Germans.

    But J. Edgar Hoover didn’t want to listen to Popov, and also threatened to arrest him for violating the Mann Act because he had taken a girl to Hawaii with him. He never passed on the information to Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Hoover still had his defenders in 1982 or 1983 and they wrote aletter to the American Historical Review defending Hoover.

    http://www.jstor.org/stable/1856917

    FBI agents wrote defending Hoover after this was published.

    http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/articles/51865362/once-again-pearl-harbor-microdots-j-edgar-hoover-letter-editor

    ABSTRACTBratzell and Rout (see entry 21A:6402) inaccurately and unfairly accused J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI of withholding intelligence information regarding a possible attack on Pearl Harbor; had the authors waited for important documents to be released under the Freedom of Information Act, their conclusions would have been quite different. Bratzell and Rout reply that the FBI did not respond to the request for documents until three months after the research note was published, fully 16 months after the last request, and when released the documents confirmed the article’s assertions.

    Hoover misrepresented the whole story in an article in the Readers Digest in 1946, claiming the FBI found out about microdots by itself, when actually Popov gave it to him on a silver platter, and the story was still wrong in the 1957 book “The FBI Story.” Hoover had been warned that the Japanese were contemplating an attack on Pearl Harbor, but he said nothing about that. The British plan was for Popov to be a double agent transmitting from the U.S. but Hoover supplied him with such meagre information his credibility was being ruined, and the Briish arranged for him to be sent back across the Atlantic.

    Sammy Finkelman (050b6e)

  47. Regarding Common Core:
    So on one occassion at one speech in SC he misspoke regarding Common Core. He even have a full exposition of his opposition to Common Core in the same speech, and you think he is flip-flopping or “say[ing] whatever the moment calls for”? Talk about two standards!

    prowlerguy (3af7ff)


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