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2/6/2016

Rubio the Robot

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:10 pm



Actual quotes taken from the transcript of tonight’s debate:

These are five separate quotes. No joke. And the lines were delivered amidst an attack from Chris Christie that Rubio was giving a “memorized 25-second speech.”

Ouch. This is going to hurt.

He’s just really not all that bright, folks.

UPDATE: As a bonus: here is the absurd botched introduction:

UPDATE x2: Updated the post to add a fifth one. And here is a brutal video capturing four of them:

UPDATE x3: Robot loop #2: He didn’t want to go back. They had to shame him into going back. He didn’t want to go back. He didn’t want to go back.

RUBIO: Chris — Chris, your state got hit by a massive snowstorm two weeks ago. You didn’t even want to go back. They had to shame you into going back. And then you stayed there for 36 hours and then he left and came back to campaign. Those are the facts.

. . . .

RUBIO: Chris, you didn’t want to go back. You didn’t want to go back.

(APPLAUSE)

CHRISTIE: And the fact is, I went back, it got done and here’s…

RUBIO: You didn’t want to go back, Chris.

CHRISTIE: Oh, so — wait a second. Is that one of the skills you get as a United States senator ESP also? Because I don’t think it is.

RUBIO: Chris, everybody — you said you weren’t going to go back. He told everyone he wasn’t going to go back. They had to shame him into going back. And when he decided to go back, he criticized the young lady, saying, what am I supposed to do, go back with a mop and clean up the flooding?

Yes, but did he want to go back?

64 Responses to “Rubio the Robot”

  1. That was brutal. He fell right into Christie’s trap.

    aunursa (be35b6)

  2. Patterico (86c8ed)

  3. did they concern different issues, it happens to be the truth, but the srm, insist on promulgating the limbaugh theorem, now what has christie accomplished by comparison, he was certainly not one of the governors who challenged obamacare, nor had his atty general file,
    he’s a believer in the skydragon as far as I can tell, wants women drafted, he’s a horror show,

    narciso (732bc0)

  4. ABC should learn the ABC’s of debate introduction.

    mg (31009b)

  5. Rubio exposed.
    Nice job, pumpkin.

    mg (31009b)

  6. yeah i don’t get this bizarre enthusiasm these people have for making women sign up for the draft

    happyfeet (831175)

  7. I am just wondering if the transcript is exactly right. Did Marco Rubio also refer to “the Girls Count Act?”

    If that was memorized, he didn’t really memorize it right.

    It’s not Let’s DISPEL with this fiction” but “DISPENSE with this fiction” or “DISPEL this fction (no “with”)

    And I don’t think Barack Obama really knows exactly what he’s doing. He knows in some cases, he doesn’t know, but pretends he does.

    Sammy Finkelman (dbec95)

  8. But the clearest indication that Rubio was rattled was that he once again repeated his canned line about Obama. “This notion that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he is doing is just not true,” Rubio said. It was now a non sequitur, and Christie interjected.

    “There it is, there it is,” Christie said.

    Chris Christie’s attacks rattle Marco Rubio

    happyfeet (831175)

  9. Too bad Marco Rubio didn’t think of this retort: (but then he’s too focused on his explanation)

    If seven years as president aren’t enough to give someone enough experience to be a good president, why should seven years as Governor do that? Or is there some other factor involved besides “experience?”

    Both Marco Rubio and Chris Christie are wrong. maybe Marco Rubio knows it is wrong, but Chris chjristie is so impressed woth his argument, that he doesn’t see the flaw. The way he would have it, only experience BEFORE somebody becomes president counts. For a new president, maybe, because that’s all you have, but Barack Obama has been president now for seven years. Chris Chrisiie doesn’t seem to think Barack Obama’s experience has done him all that much good.

    Sammy Finkelman (dbec95)

  10. I can’t recall ever seeing a candidate do such a superb job of proving his opponent’s point against him, as well as validating the longstanding claim that he’s a robot giving canned answers.

    But hey, at least RoboRubio gets to be a funny internet meme for a while, so it’s all good.

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  11. no I’ll give him that, even though he was stuck in a feedback loop, take any issue, and it’s deliberate enemy action, on the part of the administration,

    narciso (732bc0)

  12. The words “memorized 25-second speech” are themselves memorized.

    The 25-second speech was the litany about Governor Christie’s record as governor, not the claim that Barack Obama knows exactly what he’s doing, which takes lot less than 25 seconds to say. The first time Christie applied it correctly – he was told, or they figured out, that’s what you say when he criticizes your record as governor.

    The second time, it was a memorized soundbyte, not a 25-second speech.

    Sammy Finkelman (dbec95)

  13. I think with Obamacare, President Obama just didn’t care about any possible problems with it (besides having confidence in his advisers that it couldn’t hurt more than 2% of the population)

    I think with the stimulus – this was the advice he was getting. It was very simple Keynesianism. He didn’t care about the details – and according to Keynes, really, what you spend the money on doesn’t matter. He also didn’t even notice that environmental impact statements would mean taht there were no shovel ready projects. He took a long time to admit it, too. Maybe he knew alittle bit. Did he do it to hurt the economy? This is nonsense on stilts.

    Sammy Finkelman (dbec95)

  14. It’s getting to be almost like a college football rivalry…or a high school pajama party.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  15. Obama’s failure to completely sell out America is due to his ineptness. His agenda is entirely purposeful. Even if somebody said it four times.

    nk (9faaca)

  16. yes yes but he’s saying it cause

    a.) he was told to

    b.) they told him to

    c.) cause of he does what he’s told

    happyfeet (831175)

  17. UPDATE x3: Robot loop #2: He didn’t want to go back. They had to shame him into going back. He didn’t want to go back. He didn’t want to go back.

    RUBIO: Chris — Chris, your state got hit by a massive snowstorm two weeks ago. You didn’t even want to go back. They had to shame you into going back. And then you stayed there for 36 hours and then he left and came back to campaign. Those are the facts.

    . . . .

    RUBIO: Chris, you didn’t want to go back. You didn’t want to go back.

    (APPLAUSE)

    CHRISTIE: And the fact is, I went back, it got done and here’s…

    RUBIO: You didn’t want to go back, Chris.

    CHRISTIE: Oh, so — wait a second. Is that one of the skills you get as a United States senator ESP also? Because I don’t think it is.

    RUBIO: Chris, everybody — you said you weren’t going to go back. He told everyone he wasn’t going to go back. They had to shame him into going back. And when he decided to go back, he criticized the young lady, saying, what am I supposed to do, go back with a mop and clean up the flooding?

    Yes, but did he want to go back?

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  18. dejavu all over again,

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/11/19/chris_christie_s_sympathy_for_obama

    are you saying this is nlp,

    narciso (732bc0)

  19. on this point, I give rubio more leeway, abandoning your people in order to suck up to obama, is a bigger issue than sipping too much water,

    narciso (732bc0)

  20. He didn’t want to go back,

    He didn’t want to go back,

    He didn’t want to go back,

    IT’S NOT A TUMOR!

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  21. I would venture that any situation with disrupted food deliveries is ameliorated by Christie’s absence and worsened by his presence.

    nk (9faaca)

  22. I think the irony clause is allowed to be invoked when someone mentions five or six times that someone else is too repetitive.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  23. YOU are absolutely right Cruz Supporter. Quit picking on Rubio for the delivery. His message was spot on.

    But then again. It’s been obvious that Obama was a manchurian candidate since ’07, back when he was just the manchurian candidate.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  24. The introduction goof up was worth the price of admission. Jeb! even showed a little energy.

    Mark Johnson (a64489)

  25. National Soros Radio offers this:

    The attack led to a heated exchange. While Rubio insisted that President Obama “knows what he’s doing” and is trying to make the U.S. like the rest of the world with policies like Obamacare, Christie attacked him for not responding to his criticisms and instead for reciting a “memorized 25-second speech.”

    they know exactly what they’re doing

    happyfeet (831175)

  26. I’m sure there must be a reason for making such a big effing deal out of this… right?

    I don’t find Christie to be worth much, after his 2012 Convention performance and his bromance with Obama. No sale.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  27. The local affiliate had a panel consisting of three black guys and a white girl for the after debate analysis.

    One of them said, “Even the Democrats are noticing Rubio’s repeated phrase”.

    Maybe that’s what Rubio was shooting for.

    Repeat this enough times, so even Democrats will get it.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  28. if shallow fallows is on to it, it doesn’t mean much,

    narciso (732bc0)

  29. the criticism of rubio, not the underlying issue,

    narciso (732bc0)

  30. Domo Arigato, Mr. Ruboto

    Random Numbers (b62152)

  31. I’m with you in the Cruz camp, and not fond of Rubio.

    However, I skipped last night’s debate. Decided to catch up today.
    I tuned in for about ten seconds and caught (one of) Rubio’s line(s): “… he knows exactly what he’s doing.”

    I thought, “well, he’s got a point. that’s a good line.”

    asdf (4227f2)

  32. So, Trump won the debate. Right?

    ropelight (ec3b5e)

  33. Someone over @Ace referred to Rubio as “C3Bio”. The best.

    Firefirefire (933c5b)

  34. Next debate, the moderator should ask Rubio right off the bat if he thinks Obama knows what he’s doing.

    sageklubb (c4e0f7)

  35. Didn’t watch the debate, but for the first time in some 14 years of following Patterico, I’m going to criticize the site thematically.

    I hate the hatred of Rubio here, and I’m going to start drifting away, visiting less — and, certainly, using another site’s Amazon window for purchases.

    Oh, of course this post is fair game. Almost every one of the Rubio critiques here — scores of them — is fair game, taken alone. (Not the book cover. That was childish.)

    But we’ve taken a turn from conversing amongst fellow conservatives like gentlefolk to hatred, to finding any small (to me) thing you can find to throw brickbats. It’s fine to wonder if Rubio has truly “come to Jesus” after the Gang of Eight, but water bottles? Christ, Patrick.

    Mitch (bfd5cd)

  36. Of course Rubio is a robot. Liars have to memorize their lines.

    DRJ (15874d)

  37. “A hot microphone caught Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) coordinating which way members of the ‘Gang of Eight’ who serve on the Senate Judiciary Committee would vote on immigration bill amendments… ‘Do our Republicans have a pass on this one if they want?’ the microphone caught Schumer saying.” What Schumer was referring to was that the bill — written with special interests like the Chamber of Commerce and La Raza — was to be protected from any amendment that advanced an interest other than those signed off on by these outside groups. The writing of the bill, in many major respects, was outsourced to industry groups.

    happyfeet (831175)

  38. I’m sure Rubio will say that he is repeating for emphasis. It sounds like he’s repeating internet comment section memes, like “he knows what he’s doing.”

    Patricia (5fc097)

  39. This debate made me see Christie as a strong VP candidate for whoever wins the nomination. I’ve always thought Rubio has a lock on the VP if he isn’t the nominee, but Christie is a better fighter.

    DRJ (15874d)

  40. with christie and trump on the stage both roobs and Mr. Ted Cruz seem to lack a certain virility, which is odd cause of how they’re supposed to be hispanic

    this won’t be a problem in the general against hillary cause she is very very low-T herself

    but for right now it’s not helpful, especially for Mr. Ted Cruz, who’s already hobbled cause of how he’s targeted a very narrow swath of voters

    which is to say

    if the top of the ticket is strong with for reals executive bearing like christie or trump, the veep can be a weak lil limp-wristed high-concept ponce like cruz or roobs

    it’s all about balance

    happyfeet (831175)

  41. Chump and Lump. If vaudeville comes back, their act is a sure-fire hit. But America is not crazy enough to elect two rude blowhards from the two ends of the Holland Tunnel to the two highest offices. Seriously, a loon like Trump and a thug like Christie a heartbeat away?

    nk (9faaca)

  42. failmerica elected a sleazy job-raping food stamp slut not once but twice Mr. nk

    happyfeet (831175)

  43. I don’t think many people see the VP as a likely President these days. They know s/he could be President but they don’t see it as likely. It’s more like the British heir and a spare, and the spare, where the spare is allowed far more latitude in behavior.

    DRJ (15874d)

  44. don’t get me wrong i’m not voting for any of these losers

    that whole debate last night really validated my position

    whiny aggrieved lispy fruit loop is aggrieved blah blah north korea blah blah waterboardings blah blah rehash immigration blah blah blah smack-addicted new hampshire trash wtf cares blah blah fetuses fetuses poor dead fetuses blah blah blah

    these people do not live in the real whirl none of them

    happyfeet (831175)

  45. the only highlight of the evening was the gratification of watching roobs come off like the punk-ass little b- he is

    happyfeet (831175)

  46. Forget ideology and the history of each of the Republican candidates.

    From a purely visceral, superficial standpoint, Rubio comes off too much as wet behind the ears, with both a rather non-reassuring school-boyish face and voice. He could very well be fantastic in other ways (although he apparently isn’t), but Mother Nature (or his DNA) hasn’t helped him in his desire to enter the White House. Christie is fairly bad in terms of his gut instincts (he leans left on too many occasions), but other than a love of eating too much, his good ol’ physiology at least hasn’t put him at a disadvantage in the race to the presidency.

    Cruz has the most going on upstairs (probably the most reliably right-leaning of all the candidates) — and, yea, I’ve mentioned in the past his aquiline nose — but the timbre of his voice (rather high pitched) also isn’t exactly straight out of central casting for a person striving for the Oval Office.

    I’m honing in on the most lightweight qualities of these candidates because the electorate is full of people who will be — who are — affected by such things, particularly if they’re the millions of Americans not as willing to give Republican candidate A, B or C the benefit of the doubt the way the’ll do to Democrat candidate A, B or C based on stereotypes of whose kinder, nicer, friendlier, more likely to give a helping hand to citizens down on their luck.

    Mark (f713e4)

  47. Ropelight. Did you see this? The classiest debate moment that no one noticed.

    Well, people noticed but chose not to see because of their built in prejudices.

    Trump was the best man on that stage. The audience was filled with establishment bundlers, used to buying the loyalties of politicians.

    And Christie’s best, most emotionally animated moment, was when he jumped in to the defense of Barack Obama.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  48. Mr. The Donald was immensely affable last night

    it’s hard to know how much of this is cause nobody else was even remotely affable

    but i still hope he wins

    all these other ones need time-outs and/or naps

    too many poopers on stage still

    hopefully the new hampshire people will put down their needles and tourniquets long enough to go flush the bushfilth down the dynastic toilet at least

    happyfeet (831175)

  49. Everyone’s a RINO or an apostate—except for Goldwater. There wasn’t a slick bone in his body. Being un-telegenic is no vice! I can’t wait to visit the Barry Goldwater Presidential Library this summer while on vacation. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  50. I know we’ve all had a good laugh at Rubio’s self-inflicted train wreck last night, but there’s a serious issue that the pundits and analysts haven’t hit on, yet (but they will).

    What was one of the big criticisms of Romney, and a feature of the D campaign against him? That he was robotic (if you don’t believe me, google “Romney robotic”). Robotic, and thus, inauthentic. Pure gold for the other side. Anyone happen to remember just how well that worked out for us in November 2012? I sure do.

    Before last night, Rubio already had this Romney problem; being canned, programmed – inauthentic and thus untrustworthy. Romney never even came close to the glaring public confirmation and self-parody Rubio provided last night, but the robotic Romney thing hurt him, and hurt him badly.

    If Rubio ever was electable in November, he destroyed that last night.

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  51. I was in diapers when Goldwater was defending what has eventually become wedding cake bakers against gay activists.

    Good on him, but it’s 2016.

    CS could you find a strawman argument a little less long in the tooth.

    And maybe next time you could try a tin man argument. Just to mix it up a bit.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  52. Food for thought from Gavin McInnes…

    “We’re down to Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Hillary, or Bernie, and in the midst of all the panic, you can’t help but think, “Does it really matter?” What percentage will your annual tax rate go up? Bernie could take away these friendly interest rates investors are enjoying, but George W. Bush was elected partly for fiscal responsibility and he spent like a drunken sailor.

    I believe the culture is more important than economics and that’s why I prefer Republicans to Democrats. I want to get back to free speech and away from all this thought policing and the right seems more likely to do that than the left. Breitbart used to say, “Politics is downstream from culture,” and that is where Obama has done most of his damage. Over half the country agrees that race relations have taken a nosedive since he took office and a mere 8% say they’ve improved. This is relevant because blacks who have been brainwashed into thinking America has mandatory racism are more likely to burn down the CVS when a cop shoots a black kid. Insisting Muslims are our friends allows Iran to get nukes and opens the door for #rapefugees. When our president refuses to Google the mythical wage gap, we lose billions to affirmative-action policies trying to correct a sexism problem that isn’t there. Liberal leaders are so adamant we let gays do whatever they want; it includes bullying Christians into violating their own religions. The same people who want the government out of the bedroom don’t mind the government in your brain. Then, to add insult to injury, they want to charge you when they find something they don’t like. That gets expensive and that’s why we need to swing the political spectrum to the right.

    The culture war is also why Trump has made such headway against an opponent with much more political experience. America is sick of being accused of bigotry. We’re not racist or sexist or homophobic. We’re the global leaders of equality in all these fields and I can prove it.

    “If your job involves writing modern-dance reviews for The New York Times, we can never be friends.”
    Take racism, for example: It is perfectly normal to have a genetic predisposition to people of your own kind. This is why they’ve discovered babies are racist. We are so good at blocking this tendency from our day-to-day life that it’s become dwarfed by other seemingly random prejudices that vary from person to person. Hearing a man say, “I’m a woman” is less annoying to me than hearing someone say, “We need to have a national conversation” or “They’re on the right side of history.” I am way more top bun-ist than racist and so are you. Sure, if a black guy sidles up next to me at the bar, I’m aware of the cultural differences we will likely have. Black New Yorkers grow up totally differently than whites and our lack of common references will probably impede a smooth conversation. However, the second he recognizes a band I like or shares a political curiosity, that tiny layer of skepticism immediately washes away and we’re off to a pleasant twenty minutes. It’s the same for pretty much every natural aversion to anything different. Racism, sexism, and homophobia are one thin Venn diagram of common experience away from evaporating.

    I was at a family resort in Jamaica recently and saw a man at the buffet pile so many mashed potatoes on his plate he barely had room for anything else. “What kind of asshole fills up on potatoes at a buffet?” I thought to myself and directed all my hatred towards him for the rest of the vacation. Divorced fathers of 1-year-olds also get my goat. No gay, black, handicapped trans girl in the world could possibly make me as uncomfortable as a guy who left a child fatherless because he was “unhappy.” I know guys in this situation and I’ve learned to live with their unique circumstances, but when I meet someone and find out they blew it that soon into the marriage, I find it very difficult to ignore. It’s a deep-seated bias that doesn’t wash away when he says he likes the same music I do.

    There are other traits such as getting plastic surgery or believing in astrology where I not only see them as lesser beings, I actually feel sorry for them, but there are also plenty of relatively mainstream traits I just can’t get over. Supporting Bernie Sanders is so willfully ignorant, I don’t know how we could possibly survive you coming over for dinner. I have learned to agree to disagree with gays that men are sexier than women, but it would be impossible to resist screaming, “What the hell are you thinking?” if a Bernie supporter were in my home. I’m a big fan of the Theodoracopuloses, but Greeks in general annoy the shit out of me. They butt in line and constantly natter on about how they invented democracy. What have you done for me lately, goatbangers? Turks are even worse, with their relentless droning on about their boring culture and cacophonous pop stars. How can you bro down with someone who murdered a million Armenians and won’t admit it? I don’t care who you sleep with, but if your job involves writing modern-dance reviews for The New York Times, we can never be friends. I don’t even like guys with green eyes. They got too many [redacted] in high school and it’s made them stupid.

    In the “Love Has No Labels” ad campaign, we see two skeletons kiss and our minds are supposed to explode when we learn it’s two women. Nobody cares in real life. When gays in camo hold hands in Alabama, they don’t get a fist to the face. They get a fist pump from a dude who says, “Y’all are the most punk rock gay couple I’ve ever seen in my life.” We don’t ostracize black people from Oscar ceremonies. We cram them into so many movies and shows that Americans assume there are twice as many black people as there actually are.

    We’ve all noticed general patterns, so stop making us pay tax dollars to pretend they aren’t there. It’s okay to develop an aversion to a group of people or their culture, but when it comes to the individual we take them at face value and it’s not just out of benevolence. We start with a clean slate because we are all way too greedy to deny ourselves a potential friend or employee who might make our life better. Even if 100% of our natural prejudices don’t wash away and there’s still a thin film of reticence, it can’t hold a candle to the wildly unpredictable prejudices we all have. None of these supposed abnormalities could be corrected by government, so let’s focus on the right because they are clearly the lesser of two evils.”

    http://takimag.com/article/the_cost_of_prejudice_gavin_mcinnes/print#ixzz3zVpddgee

    Sent from my iPad

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  53. I’m not a Rubio fan but I completely agree with his characterization of Barack Obama’s willful actions to transform America and am not the least bit bothered that he likes to repeat it. The idea that Christie, Bush and others have that Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing is at odds with the facts.

    crazy (cde091)

  54. “We’re down to Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Hillary, or Bernie, and in the midst of all the panic, you can’t help but think, “Does it really matter?” What percentage will your annual tax rate go up? Bernie could take away these friendly interest rates investors are enjoying, but George W. Bush was elected partly for fiscal responsibility and he spent like a drunken sailor.

    I believe the culture is more important than economics and that’s why I prefer Republicans to Democrats. I want to get back to free speech and away from all this thought policing and the right seems more likely to do that than the left. Breitbart used to say, “Politics is downstream from culture,” and that is where Obama has done most of his damage. Over half the country agrees that race relations have taken a nosedive since he took office and a mere 8% say they’ve improved. This is relevant because blacks who have been brainwashed into thinking America has mandatory racism are more likely to burn down the CVS when a cop shoots a black kid. Insisting Muslims are our friends allows Iran to get nukes and opens the door for #rapefugees. When our president refuses to Google the mythical wage gap, we lose billions to affirmative-action policies trying to correct a sexism problem that isn’t there. Liberal leaders are so adamant we let gays do whatever they want; it includes bullying Christians into violating their own religions. The same people who want the government out of the bedroom don’t mind the government in your brain. Then, to add insult to injury, they want to charge you when they find something they don’t like. That gets expensive and that’s why we need to swing the political spectrum to the right.

    The culture war is also why Trump has made such headway against an opponent with much more political experience. America is sick of being accused of bigotry. We’re not racist or sexist or homophobic. We’re the global leaders of equality in all these fields and I can prove it.

    “If your job involves writing modern-dance reviews for The New York Times, we can never be friends.”
    Take racism, for example: It is perfectly normal to have a genetic predisposition to people of your own kind. This is why they’ve discovered babies are racist. We are so good at blocking this tendency from our day-to-day life that it’s become dwarfed by other seemingly random prejudices that vary from person to person. Hearing a man say, “I’m a woman” is less annoying to me than hearing someone say, “We need to have a national conversation” or “They’re on the right side of history.” I am way more top bun-ist than racist and so are you. Sure, if a black guy sidles up next to me at the bar, I’m aware of the cultural differences we will likely have. Black New Yorkers grow up totally differently than whites and our lack of common references will probably impede a smooth conversation. However, the second he recognizes a band I like or shares a political curiosity, that tiny layer of skepticism immediately washes away and we’re off to a pleasant twenty minutes. It’s the same for pretty much every natural aversion to anything different. Racism, sexism, and homophobia are one thin Venn diagram of common experience away from evaporating.

    I was at a family resort in Jamaica recently and saw a man at the buffet pile so many mashed potatoes on his plate he barely had room for anything else. “What kind of asshole fills up on potatoes at a buffet?” I thought to myself and directed all my hatred towards him for the rest of the vacation. Divorced fathers of 1-year-olds also get my goat. No gay, black, handicapped trans girl in the world could possibly make me as uncomfortable as a guy who left a child fatherless because he was “unhappy.” I know guys in this situation and I’ve learned to live with their unique circumstances, but when I meet someone and find out they blew it that soon into the marriage, I find it very difficult to ignore. It’s a deep-seated bias that doesn’t wash away when he says he likes the same music I do.

    There are other traits such as getting plastic surgery or believing in astrology where I not only see them as lesser beings, I actually feel sorry for them, but there are also plenty of relatively mainstream traits I just can’t get over. Supporting Bernie Sanders is so willfully ignorant, I don’t know how we could possibly survive you coming over for dinner. I have learned to agree to disagree with gays that men are sexier than women, but it would be impossible to resist screaming, “What the hell are you thinking?” if a Bernie supporter were in my home. I’m a big fan of the Theodoracopuloses, but Greeks in general annoy the sh*t out of me. They butt in line and constantly natter on about how they invented democracy. What have you done for me lately, goatbangers? Turks are even worse, with their relentless droning on about their boring culture and cacophonous pop stars. How can you bro down with someone who murdered a million Armenians and won’t admit it? I don’t care who you sleep with, but if your job involves writing modern-dance reviews for The New York Times, we can never be friends. I don’t even like guys with green eyes. They got too many blow jobs in high school and it’s made them stupid.

    In the “Love Has No Labels” ad campaign, we see two skeletons kiss and our minds are supposed to explode when we learn it’s two women. Nobody cares in real life. When gays in camo hold hands in Alabama, they don’t get a fist to the face. They get a fist pump from a dude who says, “Y’all are the most punk rock gay couple I’ve ever seen in my life.” We don’t ostracize black people from Oscar ceremonies. We cram them into so many movies and shows that Americans assume there are twice as many black people as there actually are.

    We’ve all noticed general patterns, so stop making us pay tax dollars to pretend they aren’t there. It’s okay to develop an aversion to a group of people or their culture, but when it comes to the individual we take them at face value and it’s not just out of benevolence. We start with a clean slate because we are all way too greedy to deny ourselves a potential friend or employee who might make our life better. Even if 100% of our natural prejudices don’t wash away and there’s still a thin film of reticence, it can’t hold a candle to the wildly unpredictable prejudices we all have. None of these supposed abnormalities could be corrected by government, so let’s focus on the right because they are clearly the lesser of two evils.”

    http://takimag.com/article/the_cost_of_prejudice_gavin_mcinnes/print#ixzz3zVpddgee

    Sent from my iPad

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  55. papertiger,…wedding cakes? For reals?
    (Facepalm.)

    This is why we rarely nominate a good candidate.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  56. Gay activists using the 1964 Civil Rights Act to proscecute and drive wedding cake bakeries out of business, yes.

    Hell, I’m shocked I get it right too. It’s so stupid it can’t be real, right?

    Not bad for a toddler.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  57. No, papertiger. Only the EEOC (Yobama’s) has said gay is a “sex” and that’s in employment. The wedding cakes are state law, no federal.

    nk (9faaca)

  58. In point of fact, the Federal RFRA would protect the bakers against such suits – it provides more protection than the First Amendment.

    nk (9faaca)

  59. new york times propaganda sluts jeremy peters and jonathan martin lol

    Marco Rubio Comes Back Swinging After Difficult Debate

    Mr. Rubio defiantly told voters here that he would continue hammering at President Obama’s leadership, a critique he made again and again during the debate, inviting vicious ridicule from Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey.

    “I’m going to say it again,” Mr. Rubio told about 1,000 people who crowded into a high school cafeteria, one of his largest audiences yet in New Hampshire. “Barack Obama is the first president, at least in my lifetime, who wants to change the country. Change the country. Not fix it, not fix its problems. He wants to make it a different kind of country.”

    lil pinga has ONE narrative

    happyfeet (831175)

  60. First of all, I don’t give a flying rat’s pittooey about this topic.

    Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer (who have since married) filed a complaint against Sweet Cakes by Melissa in February 2013, a month after the Kleins refused to make a cake for the couple’s same-sex wedding.
    At the time, same-sex marriage was not legal in Oregon, and Basic Rights Oregon was in the process of gathering signatures to bring the measure to the ballot in the upcoming 2014 election.
    Oregon began recognizing same-sex marriages from other states in October of 2013, and on May 19, 2014, a federal judge struck down the ban, legalizing gay marriage.

    link for that carp.

    A federal judge imposed this stupidity, based on…

    Hey. I was under the impression that the government couldn’t see a person doing something, take offense, then pass a law afterward to prosecute them on the prior action.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  61. Or a judge create a law from the demons in his emaciated heart.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  62. NOBODY on that stage last night, nor in the audience, nor anyone who would vote for the GOP candidate, thinks Obama is any good as a leader. There’s nothing defiant about saying that over and over. Show there is no real thought beyond Frank Luntz-type buzzwords based on focus group nonsense. This country is too much of a mess to vote for something and someone so empty-headed as such babble and the empty suit Rubio. Yes, Christie screwed Romney with the post-Sandy hug on the beach. But so what; you cannot base a campaign on that. It’s clear Rubio’s handlers are invested in treating voters like morons.

    Bugg (fa64ec)

  63. I don’t think Rubio’s roboto-momento means he isn’t bright. I think he’s very bright, and ordinarily very articulate. He’s not always robotic, either, and he can and does speak in well-constructed paragraphs constructed on the fly. He and Cruz are both very good at that — better than Romney, vastly better than McCain, better than Dubya, better than G.H.W. Bush.

    I also think Rubio isn’t getting much credit for his time in the Florida legislature, where he did indeed have some substantive accomplishments against formidable odds. I’m awfully glad that it’s Rubio and not Charlie Crist in that U.S. Senate seat from Florida. He’s got more of a track record than his youthful face and demeanor would suggest.

    His problem is that not all of that track record is favorable (e.g., Gang of Eight). To repeat and expand upon Jimmy Carter’s observation, Ted Cruz isn’t malleable. Donald Trump is extremely malleable. Rubio’s somewhere in between; where, exactly, is a genuine subject of debate; people like Kasich and Jeb will argue that it’s better to be malleable than brittle, and that even Ronald Reagan actually was capable of significant compromises. I understand and give due credit to that argument; but it’s not inconceivable to me that Marco Rubio could, a la George H.W. Bush, talk the talk while campaigning (“Read my lips: No new taxes!”), only to relent and buckle under pressure. I’m not saying I think Rubio definitely would do that; I’m just saying I think he’s more malleable than Ted Cruz, and that’s a key reason why, if I were voting today, Cruz would get my vote.

    But give me a choice between Rubio, on the one hand, and any of John Kasich, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, or Ben Carson, and I’ll choose Rubio in a heartbeat.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  64. muir is a little obsessed on the point,

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/07/rubio-like-obama-i-would-visit-a-mosque-as-president/

    now one should be aware that the IsNa/CAIR/MPAC archipelago is a problem

    narciso (732bc0)


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