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1/24/2016

More Fun from The Neo-Nazi That Donald Trump Retweeted

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 1:44 am



You guys remember when Donald Trump retweeted the Photoshop of Jeb Bush:

Notice the Twitter handle of the guy who created the Photoshop: @WhiteGenocideTM. It’s OK, because as long as you praise Trump, you can be as evil as you like in other respects: starving your countrymen, murdering your journalists and dissidents, and the like.

Anyway, here’s another fun Photoshop from the White Genocide account:

Screen Shot 2016-01-24 at 1.36.27 AM

It’s funny (to @WhiteGenocideTM, at least) because Bernie Sanders is Jewish, you see.

Get it?

293 Responses to “More Fun from The Neo-Nazi That Donald Trump Retweeted”

  1. Nothing creepy about that! No, sir!

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. Another $100,000.00 worth of publicity for Trump.

    nk (dbc370)

  3. i bet you seven pickles President Trump’s america will be measurably less rabidly jew-hating than Obama’s

    happyfeet (831175)

  4. Looks like a magazine cover the National Review would release.

    mg (31009b)

  5. He can’t pick his followers, Patterico. Where on earth did you come up with that @WhiteGenocideTM website? I don’t even understand it. Some of it seems anti-Semitic, some Nazi, some anti-Bernie, some pro, some a spoof.

    You aren’t saying guys like ropelight are the likes of that web site are you? Because as I said, Trump can’t pick and choose his followers.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  6. in the second pic that uniform doesn’t even look real it looks like a photoshop to me

    happyfeet (831175)

  7. It has been said that in some ways Obama isn’t the problem,
    Having a country full of people who would elect him (twice) is.
    I think a similar thing could be said about Trump.

    The state of the public was and is the problem.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly) (deca84)

  8. goodness gracious Mr. Dr. you woke up in a state

    we’re lucky Mr. Trump is in the race or we’d be staring down the tunnel of a doomed and mortifyingly humiliating Jebbio candidacy along the lines of how weirdo freakboy mitt romney failed and how Meghan’s loathsomely cowardly daddy failed

    the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while wearing women’s panties on you head and barking like a dog

    happyfeet (831175)

  9. Once TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) takes hold the minds of men are helpless to resist the goading urgency to embarrass themselves with petty displays of sophomoric pique. TDS is contagious and so quick acting that previously well-balanced, calm, and practical minds can suddenly succumb to spewing wild-eyed calumnies and making irrational pronouncements.

    The best defense against TDS is memorizing Section 1, Article 2, Clause 5 of the US Constitution.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  10. He can’t pick his followers, Patterico.

    Of course he can’t. But he certainly can and does choose what he retweets. He knowingly chose to retweet a neonazi’s tweet, thereby associating himself with that neonazi. At best the name WhiteGenocideTM rang no bells with him; at worst he knew what this person was and chose to retweet him anyway.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  11. TDS though you can get better it’s like when my cousin got the walking ammonia and they wouldn’t let him work at the processing plant til he got a note from the doctor

    happyfeet (831175)

  12. we’re lucky Mr. Trump is in the race or we’d be staring down the tunnel of a doomed and mortifyingly humiliating Jebbio candidacy

    No, we’d be looking at a succcessful Walker candidacy. I seem to recall you were a Walker supporter too.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  13. Scott Walker sunk his own boat by spectacularly mismanaging his own campaign

    he’s a wiscotrash loser what can’t play at the national level

    he embarrassed a lot of people what really believed in him

    happyfeet (831175)

  14. Once TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) takes hold the minds of men are helpless to resist the goading urgency to embarrass themselves with petty displays of sophomoric pique.

    See you after the election, Patrick.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  15. Not a Trump fan, but “look who he retweeted” is an outrage game played by the left against anyone to the right of them.

    A few years ago Charles Johnson was doing this to anyone who linked to Robert Stacy McCain.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  16. Mr. P it’s kooky how both you and Mr. The Donald are publishing white genocide photoshops for your own political purposes

    it’s like a weird coincidence

    happyfeet (831175)

  17. Wow Patterico, you I never expected to see resorting to this kind of nonsense.
    This is a joke, perhaps you dont like it, but there is no need to be straw manning trump by framing his position to “its ok to be evil….. murdering, and starving countrymen…”

    The same is true about your previous post about trump calling people unreasonable fanatics. He never said fanatics, again he was joking. This time it was about his voters’ loyalty with such an obvious extreme statement to get a laugh.

    I agree with you on the merits, I too much prefer Cruz. But this kind of thing you are doing matches the dishonest tactics of the left you so often complain about.

    For shame
    -Gil

    Gil (4e1585)

  18. Incidentally how do we know that WhiteGenocideTM is even a white supremacist, or even white?

    Now to the left this doesn’t matter, any stick to beat their opponents with will do. If it’s some kind of progessive hipster satirist of color at the bottom of it, they’ll just say that Republicans think it’s real so their retweeting it means they’re white supremacists.

    Anyway, people who know how the game works are not going to believe that Trump’s retweet has any more significance than that someone on his staff saw something they thought was funny or provocative, and didn’t hire private detectives to track the actual person behind the tweets to find out if they are a Nazi, a child molester, or a hipster doofus.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  19. In ropelight’s defense Trump Derangement Syndrome is not just criticism of Trump, though some of his supporters might not be able to tell the difference.

    It is unseemly and unreasonable criticism that has become part of one’s identity, which comes out at inappropriate times. It is not just when one does not change his mind about Trump, it is when one will not change the subject away from Trump. One game of Six Degrees of White Supremacy is not evidence of it.

    I liked the old policy, of not posting about him, better. He’s a celebrity and he gains his strength from any attention, positive or negative.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  20. he’s trump he’s trump he’s trump

    he’s in my head

    happyfeet (831175)

  21. Part of Trump’s support is from people who have noticed that it takes very little to get accused of being racist, or white supremacist, and that the charge is used for political advantage.

    Saying Trump is a bad guy because he retweeted something from somebody who may be pretending to be a white supremacist is straight out of that playbook. Using the Left’s tactics against someone who represents a constituency that is sick of the Left’s tactics is probably not going to be effective with anyone.

    The Left already believes Trump, and any Republican, to be a secret white supremacist, and won’t need convincing. The Right has heard this charge leveled at all of them jointly and severally, on equally tenuous evidence.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  22. Read ’em and weep:

    Fox polls: Trump ahead in Iowa, New Hampshire (Trump +11 in Iowa, Trump +17 in NH)

    Donald Trump has a strong lead over Ted Cruz in Iowa with about a week left before the first nomination contest on Feb. 1, according to a Fox News poll. The poll of Iowa voters shows Trump with 34 percent among likely Republican caucus-goers, an 11-point bump from two weeks ago. Cruz is now at 23 percent, slightly down from 27 percent in the last poll…

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  23. Is Donald Trump the American Muqtada al-Sadr? – Michael Rubin, National Review

    republicans lol

    happyfeet (831175)

  24. Thanks for bringing up National Review:

    Remember these ignorant baboons were pushing Romney/Ryan 4 years ago. Fool me once…

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  25. ropelight,

    So, if National Review fooled you by endorsing Romney/Ryan to defeat Obama/Biden in the general election of 2012, whom do you believe they should have endorsed in that general election? …Obama/Biden?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  26. since then the new review’s boys have moved on

    mitt’s become a huge minimum wage fan and heavily-bearded wiscotrash boi ryan spends his days passing bloated unfunded sorosbudgets

    that is not change i can believe in

    happyfeet (831175)

  27. i abjure it!

    happyfeet (831175)

  28. “So what I say to those people who go to Donald Trump’s rallies, understand, he thinks a low minimum wage in America is a good idea. He thinks low wages are a good idea.” Bernie has fought hard for raising the minimum wage to $15/hr, what he calls a “living wage” while Donald wants to keep it where it is.Dec 20, 2015

    Bernie Sanders Slams Donald Trump Over Minimum Wage

    happyfeet (831175)

  29. It’s funny because there’s only one National Socialist in that picture, and he ain’t the one wearing a uniform.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  30. LOL!

    Count me as one who finds the Pro and Anti Trump beyond hysterically funny.

    Our Politics have become like Reality TV Programming — and it ain’t Dona;d’s fault either.

    Don’t hate the Player bitches, hate the Game.

    Rodney King's Spirit (3adc86)

  31. The photoshop of Jeb is absolutely hilarious. I suspect that Trump is kinda busy these days and may not have noticed who originally sent it out.

    Beasts of England (c112b2)

  32. The fact is there are a very large number of Aryans who are all-in for Trump. They hate all “races” except for white purebloods, and they make no bones about it. No Aryan would ever vote for me to be a leader of anything they would want involved with because I have always been very clear on my positions regarding “race”. “You are known by the company you keep” is a truism. It does matter that they all line up behind Trump. Because it is what Trump says that puts them all among his list of supporters.

    There is one thing that Trump and I both do that isn’t very Presidential: we both call people idiots. For instance, anyone who is singing Trump’s praises as President is an out and out idiot.

    John Hitchcock (b495dc)

  33. Corn cribbers and the progressives of cow hampshire mean very little in the over all electoral vote.

    mg (31009b)

  34. A clear indicator of TDS is obsessive focus on who tweeted the Bush photoshop instead of on the image itself. If a picture is worth a 1000 words, misplacing the emphasis is willfully shortchanging viewers.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  35. yes yes them corn people get so excited just to get out of the house this time of year

    plus a lot of times there’s free cookies what someone brung from the hy-vee

    happyfeet (831175)

  36. John’s joined the Black Lies Matter. It’s like any weapon will do no matter how hateful.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  37. They call that pragmatism, when any weapon will do to attack the guy whose not ideologically pure enough for their liking.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  38. i think it’s mean

    happyfeet (831175)

  39. Papertiger is a worthless piece of pond scum and a long-term and well-known liar. It might even be anatomically possible for him to go phuck himself.

    John Hitchcock (b495dc)

  40. no he’s not

    happyfeet (831175)

  41. for breakfast Mr. Hitchcock i sauteed green peppers in butter and chevre for to top white bean n ham soup it was very tasty now i have to go to the store cause of i have like 14 cvs extrabucks what’re gonna expire on me iffin I don’t mosey on down there and pick up a few necessaries

    we can discuss this all more later

    happyfeet (831175)

  42. Ropelight, you don’t have at least a few qualms about your support of Trump?

    I feel somewhat the way that perhaps Mike K or Hoagie does regarding the struggle between Trump vs Cruz or certainly against Trump vs Hillary. But there’s no way I can take the route of the Trumpsters. That to me is too much like a high-wire act, where I’m walking on a tightrope, I’m partially blindfolded, there are high winds all around me, voices from below are yelling “hey, dude, you’re gonna fall, you’re gonna fall!!,” and Trump has strung up the line I’m walking on, not necessarily all that firmly or reliably.

    As for when the left loves to cling to imagery based on Hitler and Nazism to trash the right, it’s never said that the infamous gangsters of Germany in the 1930s happily used the word “socialist” (something that hardly makes most conservatives feel warm and fuzzy) in their organization’s title, were big supporters of animal rights, with their leader being a vegan decades before the phrase “health nut” came into vogue, not to mention his reflecting behavior (at least in private) that would allow him to be a member of the rainbow-flag brigade of today.

    Mark (f713e4)

  43. TDS claims another victim. John Hitchcock and I were once close to being on the same page, now I don’t recognize the man. He’s lost his soul.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  44. @John Hitchcock:The fact is there are a very large number of Aryans who are all-in for Trump.

    There are large numbers of fools, racists, cranks, charlatans, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists who are supporting ANY candidate you could name.

    There is no cause or candidate so noble that you cannot find a fool or a knave supporting it.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  45. @John Hitchcock:The fact is there are a very large number of Aryans who are all-in for Trump.

    There are large numbers of fools, racists, cranks, charlatans, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, a*s-kickers, sh*t-kickers and Methodists who are supporting ANY candidate you could name.

    There is no cause or candidate so noble that you cannot find a fool or a knave supporting it.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  46. Off topic/
    Did you know that Ethiopia is an ancient Roman word meaning “burned face”?

    I use to get a giggle over Nigeria. I would think, “They have a country?”
    Then I found out about Niger. For a long time I thought that’s just a set up so they could beat me over reading whats on paper.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  47. Gerald can derleun, came up with this ditty around 2006 ‘republicans they thirst for death.

    narciso (0f55c7)

  48. Did somebody slip something into the water around here? Let’s have some civility, hombres!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  49. Too good not to share. Snowboarding with the NYPD.

    I’m sure president Bloomberg would pass an ordinance against it. Too much fun, you see.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  50. Colonel #45, can’t you just hear the DNC cheering? Once again, a circular firing squad giving us many years of a felon or a full on socialist as President. We do their work for them.

    Papertiger, thanks for the smile this morning.

    Simon Jester (74262f)

  51. One thing about Trump is that he certainly seems to be pissing all the right people off, whatever their political inclination.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  52. Agreed, Simon. Agreed.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  53. TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) is what afflicts his BACKERS. They are the ones who would still support him if he shot someone on 5th Avenue.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  54. To be fair to Trump, he is nothing like Hitler — he has not suggested concentration camps, extermination of undesirables or any of that. No. But he has MANY similarities to the inventor of 20th Century Fascism, Benito Mussolini. Also, the Kingfisher who was much the same thing, if less picky about theory.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  55. Remember these ignorant baboons were pushing Romney/Ryan 4 years ago. Fool me once…

    And if they had won, we would have been filling the hole instead of digging further.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  56. Selective editing, slanders, and race baiting. The hallmark of any principled movement.

    You all keep this up and Ted Cruz is going to send a personal note, demanding that you quit “helping”.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  57. First, I want Cruz to get the nomination. But, I am sure that if Trump gets the nomination (the odds are greater than zero, we will live the sequel to “Being there.”

    As far as TDS does, it afflicts all who mention “the name” with too much frequency. We could measure the length of time it took for Our respected host to “crack” and come up with a working gestational period for the TDS virus. Get yourself some “feralflu” ™ and humker down.

    felipe (56556d)

  58. gahh!

    …zero), we will…

    felipe (56556d)

  59. Oh come on. Does one have to thoroughly vet a Photoshop artist before he likes one graphic? Do a background investigation? The artwork stands on its own. Trump did not praise the Nazi picture, he laughed and joked about the Jeb graphic. To insinuate that Trump must therefore be a Neo-Nazi is very poor logic.

    Stogie (df3219)

  60. is unlogical!

    happyfeet (831175)

  61. It’s the level Trump haters have voluntarily reduced themselves to. Now, such silliness is about the best they can come up with. TDS weakens the legs.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  62. I’m taken back by it too, ropelight. All the crap handed to the American taxpayer from supporting illegals to the ridiculous commie and grifter running as democrats and these guys are off the rails over Trump. Once again: not one vote has yet been cast!

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  63. By legitimizing Trump as a contingency down the road, you legitimize his candidacy in the present.

    Leviticus (c3e73d)

  64. Hahaha. Now if you point out the flaws of Trump you are a hater engaged in a circular firing squad.

    JD (121b80)

  65. Shocking isn’t it Hoagie. What we’re seeing is nothing less than the Stupid Party in full self-destruction mode. Self Mate!

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  66. The ultimate Six Degrees of Racism play I *ever seen would have to be Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs–in this example Michelle Malkin is blamed for having a commenter quote “Invictus”, which (Johnson reminds us) was the favorite poem of TIMOTHY MCVEIGH!!!eleventy!!!

    And notorious white supremacist Nelson Mandela.

    * I meant to write “have ever seen”, but when I saw the typo I found I liked it better. Sometimes I like to hear me some bluegrass, fry me some chicken, and drop me some linking verbs.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  67. The GOP has a law and order candidate who promises to build a wall, run illegals out of the country, rebuild our military, kick ass on ISIS, take care of our vets, stop hemorrhaging money in bad trade deals, and put in a tax system that rewards success instead of penalizing it.

    That same candidate has the backing of a broad cross-section of American voters including Conservatives, Republicans, Independents, blue collar Democrats, women both young and not so young, minorities (especially Hispanics). Drawing crowds of 10 – 20 thousand enthusiastic supporters willing to line up in freezing weather to hear his stump speech. He leads in the polls and the combined print and broadcast media hang on his every word.

    Yet, he isn’t good enough for one reason or another. Our friends want someone else. Go figure!

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  68. I haven’t legitimized or delegitimized anything
    I’ve just said that Trump is a symptom,
    Not the problem

    It’s like going nuts about a rash
    And ignoring that it is smallpox

    All of the jumping up and down about the rash does nothing.

    Too many people feel betrayed by the political class, have no confidence in it and them,
    And are thrilled to have some mechanism to show it.

    Empathize with the angst and calmly show that there is a better alternative.

    All of the negative attacks on Trump have done nothing but to encourage people that they are succeeding to tick off the right people.
    I hope we stop talking about him soon.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly) (deca84)

  69. here’s the bluegrass for you Mr. Hanna but i can’t help with the fried yardbird cause of it messes up the kitchen mom says

    happyfeet (831175)

  70. In addition, sad to say,
    The fact that H. Clinton, B. Sanders, and J. Biden are considered “legitimate” candidates kind of blows the whole terminology out of use…

    MD in Philly (not in Philly) (deca84)

  71. Remember these ignorant baboons were pushing Romney/Ryan 4 years ago. Fool me once…

    And if they had won, we would have been filling the hole instead of digging further.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 1/24/2016 @ 10:55 am

    Yes.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  72. Cruz.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  73. we’re lucky Mr. Trump is in the race or we’d be staring down the tunnel of a doomed and mortifyingly humiliating Jebbio candidacy

    Trump is the biggest electoral disaster of my lifetime.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  74. Anyway, people who know how the game works are not going to believe that Trump’s retweet has any more significance than that someone on his staff saw something they thought was funny or provocative, and didn’t hire private detectives to track the actual person behind the tweets to find out if they are a Nazi, a child molester, or a hipster doofus.

    The name should have been enough of a clue.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  75. Is this how you make a closing argument to a jury? Better stick with the government work . . .

    Scoob (580f73)

  76. #61, Leviticus brought up the legitimacy issue:

    By legitimizing Trump as a contingency down the road, you legitimize his candidacy in the present.

    Leviticus (c3e73d) — 1/24/2016 @ 11:25 am

    Trump’s legitimacy isn’t in question. It’s Ted Cruz who has that problem. His supporters ignore his Canadian birth to an American mother and a Cuban father. They also ignore his Canadian citizenship which he renounced only 15 months ago.

    Cruz’s supporters claim that his mother’s American Citizenship qualifies her son to run for the presidency of the US. But they neglect the other side of the coin. Does his father’s Cuban citizenship qualify Ted for high office in Cuba?

    Better to talk about legitimacy issues now than sweep them under the rug and stumble over them later.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  77. The name should have been enough of a clue.

    and yet it wasn’t

    and the baleful tweet was retweetered

    jebbio and his sign, standing in front of Trump Tower

    he looks so lost

    where dem pups

    happyfeet (831175)

  78. Trump is the biggest electoral disaster of my lifetime.

    these things are notoriously difficult to quantify with any precision Mr. M

    happyfeet (831175)

  79. ropelight, is there anything Trump could do that would cause you to break with him?

    I mean, you’ve already discounted all his past statements as lies made for the purpose of getting over on people, yet now accept what he says as the Gospel Truth.

    Which, to me, is far past “deranged” and into the category of “unable to tell reality from fantasy.”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  80. OK, then, roughly the opposite of Reagan’s win in 1980.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  81. this birtherism
    last refuge of scoundrel or
    trump operatives?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  82. I’ll have to get back to you Kevin. The game is on. I’m going to pore 3 fingers of bonded bourbon over ice, kick back and enjoy watching 2 very fine quarterbacks on a splendid football day.

    The games today deserve their own thread. But only if Cruz supporters agree not to use it for illegitimate purposes.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  83. Trump’s mother’s naturalization document doesn’t look very convincing. No seal or anything.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  84. Meanwhile the tag stopped a followon attack to Paris in multiple cities re the mirror.

    narciso (732bc0)

  85. Boy. Charlie has gone full crony capitalist. Six layers of pop up ads.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  86. Oh come on. Does one have to thoroughly vet a Photoshop artist before he likes one graphic? Do a background investigation?

    No, one does not. If this neonazi’s handle had been “John Smith” nobody would be blaming Trump for retweeting his non-racist work. But it isn’t.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  87. Broncos up 7 zip. Manning 20yd TD pass.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  88. The ultimate Six Degrees of Racism play I *ever seen would have to be Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs

    That was indeed crazy. But this is not six degrees, it’s one degree.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  89. They also ignore his Canadian citizenship which he renounced only 15 months ago.

    What is there to ignore about it? Why would it be an issue even if he hadn’t renounced it?

    Cruz’s supporters claim that his mother’s American Citizenship qualifies her son to run for the presidency of the US. But they neglect the other side of the coin. Does his father’s Cuban citizenship qualify Ted for high office in Cuba?

    No, because his name isn’t Castro and he isn’t a communist. If there’s ever a revolution in Cuba, its next constitution may well entitle him to lead that country. If it does, what of it? Why should that bother anyone? It’s entirely the Cubans’ business whom they allow to hold office.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  90. Trump’s mother’s naturalization document doesn’t look very convincing. No seal or anything.

    Would a walrus do?

    Milhouse (87c499)

  91. 61.By legitimizing Trump as a contingency down the road, you legitimize his candidacy in the present.

    That seems to be a big strategy in politics this year, Levidicus. The democrats are legitimizing a senile red diaper communist and a lying socialist grifter for their part.

    77.ropelight, is there anything Trump could do that would cause you to break with him?

    I think ropelight would break with Trump if he came out for mass immigration. Next question, Kevin.

    Trump is the biggest electoral disaster of my lifetime.

    What does that mean? Cause McGovern had 17 electoral votes and lost 49 states. Would you consider that a disaster? Or do you mean in some other way?

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  92. So, according to you, we should ask Canada if we can borrow Cruz for 4 – 8 years?

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  93. Why would we need to do that?

    Milhouse (87c499)

  94. #90 was directed at Milhouse. Tongue firmly in cheek.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  95. And your point was? There is nothing in the constitution that bars a president from having foreign citizenships.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  96. ropelight likes to play the “A President Cruz might have secret covert underhanded sympathies for Canada and Cuba” card, but he never explains what that might entail.

    Does it mean that Cruz would push for mandatory ice hockey in all of the public schools in America? Or would he use executive authority to declare July the 5th, “William Shatner Day” ? Or is ropelight fearful that Cruz would issue the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Fidel Castro?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  97. He Needs a Hero

    Where have all the smart men gone
    And what the Hell were the odds?
    Where’s the street-wise Mephistopheles
    To fight the leftwing sods?

    Is he just a white knight upon a mountain of greed?
    Late at night he’ll toss and he’ll turn and dream of what we all need

    He needs a hero
    He’s holding out for a hero but there’s no one in sight
    He’s gotta be brash
    And have lotsa cash
    And he’s gotta be steeled for a fight
    He needs a hero
    He’s holding out for a hero but there’s no one in sight
    He’s gotta be brash
    And have lotsa cash
    And he’s gotta be yuuuger than life (yuuuger than life…)

    Somewhere after Iowa
    In his wildest fantasy
    Somewhere just before New Hampshire
    He got capped at teh knee

    Running from his blunders and nonsensical tweets
    His hero turned to zero and the farce was complete

    He needs a hero
    He’s holding out for a hero but there’s no one in sight
    He’s gotta be brash
    And he’s gotta have cash
    And he’s gotta be steeled for a fight
    He needs a hero
    He’s holding out for a hero but there’s no one in sight
    He’s gotta be brash
    And have lotsa cash
    And he’s gotta be yuuuger than life

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  98. Colonel Haiku has earned the Bonnie Tyler Medal of Freedom.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  99. #77, Kevin asked: (Kevin M (25bbee) — 1/24/2016 @ 12:05 pm)

    ropelight, is there anything Trump could do that would cause you to break with him?

    Sure, lots of things. As examples, admit it was him who gave the stand down order in Benghazi; or take credit for selling the back door key to Hillary’s homebrew server to the ChiComs, or admit he was born in Canada to a Cuban father.

    Kevin goes on to make the claim:

    you’ve already discounted all (Trump’s) past statements as lies made for the purpose of getting over on people, yet now accept what he says as the Gospel Truth.

    I don’t believe that’s true, in fact I challenge you to back up that statement. I’ve written quite a lot about Trump lately. You ought to be able to find something semi-relevant you can twist to fit the Procrustean bed you’ve made for yourself. I’m not giving you a pass, I fully expect you to duck and dodge the challenge, but I would like to see you have a go at it.

    And for your parting (cheap) shot you indicate that I’m “deranged” and “unable to tell reality from fantasy.”

    I’ll wait for you to prove your point about me discounting all of Trump’s past statements as lies before we have the evidence to decide which of us is deranged and unable to tell reality from fantasy for the purpose of getting over.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  100. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/24/2016 @ 12:45 pm

    Bravo, Colonel!

    felipe (56556d)

  101. Touchdown Denver. Early 2nd qtr. Denver 14, New England 6.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  102. 9. ropelight (ae6e5e) — 1/24/2016 @ 6:43 am

    The best defense against TDS is memorizing Section 1, Article 2, Clause 5 of the US Constitution.

    Don’t you mean Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5 of the US Constitution? (the first mention of impeachment in the U.S. constitution)

    I remember, in 1992, I figured that Clinton would probably be impeached. But it took five years for the scandal that would cause that to arise, and happened only because Clinton made the mistake of exiling both Linda Tripp and Monica Lewinsky to the same office. (to keep them under control)

    Sammy Finkelman (dbec95)

  103. Shocking isn’t it Hoagie. What we’re seeing is nothing less than the Stupid Party in full self-destruction mode. Self Mate!
    ropelight (ae6e5e) — 1/24/2016 @ 11:26 am

    A most bitter-sweet LOL! yeah, an “own-goal.” Not something I want to see, but there it is – reality.

    felipe (56556d)

  104. And, felipe, notice it hasn’t given the rabid partisans a moment’s pause. They just don’t get it because they’re more interested in polemics than results. CS, Kevin, and the rest of the barking dogs ain’t never caught a rabbit.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  105. Milhouse (87c499) — 1/24/2016 @ 12:28 pm

    Well said, Milhouse.

    felipe (56556d)

  106. Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 1/24/2016 @ 12:31 pm

    I think ropelight would break with Trump if he came out for mass immigration. Next question, Kevin.

    He did, didn’t he? But with no preference for refugees or illegal aliens, and a prohibition of Muslims until he’s figured out a way to separate the good ones from the bad ones..

    http://www.newsweek.com/who-knew-trump-favors-amnesty-undocumented-immigrants-395512

    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/30/trump-deport-illegals-but-expedite-the-return-of-the-good-ones-for-legal-status/

    Since deported people would not get any preference, because that would be called amnesty, as well as stopping all other legal immigration from some countries, this can only be accomplished by removing quotas and replacing that with a “merit-based” system.

    Sammy Finkelman (dbec95)

  107. Ross Perot said: If you hate, I don’t want you.
    Trump says: If you don’t hate, you won’t vote me, so I don’t care what you think.

    nk (dbc370)

  108. ” …and the rest of the barking dogs ain’t never caught a rabbit.”

    I like that. It reminds me of the story about an elderly Monk who had “lost” all his followers. When asked about how he managed to persevere in his faith instead of giving up like the “others,” he recounted the phenomenon of the pack of dogs.

    A dog sees a rabbit and begins to chase it. Other dogs hear the first dog’s cry and join in the chase. In a good while, many, if not all, of the following dogs give up the chase. But the first dog finally catches the rabbit. The reason the other dogs gave up, he explained, is that they never saw the rabbit. I have seen the rabbit, he said.

    felipe (56556d)

  109. Thanks, CS and felipe!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  110. Real Conservatives cant compete in the marketplace without mexican slave labor.

    Boy are they afraid of Trump driving up wages by deporting their slaves.

    Joe (847895)

  111. It takes five Trump supporters to do the work of one Mexican.

    nk (dbc370)

  112. Oh ropelight,

    If you were comfortable answering questions, you wouldn’t be dodging questions the way that Donald Trump dodges questions from Megyn Kelly and Hugh Hewitt.
    Drinking three fingers of bourbon while watching the football game is merely a distraction.

    You’re angry that people aren’t supporting your northeastern liberal candidate, Trump. You’ve said that Cruz has “divided loyalties,” yet you deny you said it. You’ve said that if people like the past 7 years, then they should vote for Hillary, Cruz, or Rubio,—and then you deny that you said that, too. It doesn’t matter to you if people provide the actual quote. You just overreact by going on the attack.
    All you do, is play the “You’re a secret Hillary-supporting Democrat!” card.

    Which is all kind of funny considering that Trump has been a lifelong Democrat.

    In other words, your candidate of choice (Trump!) is a lifelong Democrat.

    Stop with the goofiness and the rabbit, rabbit, rabbit analogies.

    By the way, PEYTON MANNING JUST THREW A TOUCHDOWN PASS!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  113. Go sell crazy elsewhere, Joe teh Huero…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  114. #93, Milhouse wrote: There is nothing in the constitution that bars a president from having foreign citizenships.

    Except the requirement that only a natural born American citizen is eligible for the presidency. According to the claims of his supporters Cruz is every bit a natural born Canadian citizen as he is a natural born Cuban citizen.

    That’s not what John Jay had it mind when he wrote to George Washington, presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention:

    Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen

    The strong check Jay recommended was adopted by the Convention. It’s intended to keep foreign influence out of the highest levels of American government. It’s a plain to me as it was to the founding fathers.

    To ignore it or discount it in favor of a currently attractive candidate is to further erode our bedrock foundation document. Abraham Lincoln and the Civil War killed the 10th amendment and opened the door for unlimited government. The 2nd amendment has been under assault for decades, and now the case for a thoroughly American President is being undermined by well meaning but shortsighted partisans.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  115. Why are, “real” conservatives so afraid of having their mexican slave labor deported?

    Love driving down wages with slavery?

    Joe (847895)

  116. I am teh walrus… I am teh walrus… he is teh smegma

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  117. Driving down wages with slavery is the Christian thing to do.

    Thats why, “real” conservatives are in the mexican slave trade and don’t want their slaves deported.

    Joe (847895)

  118. “Teh Wages of Slavery”

    – Joe “I blew my Congressman” Huero

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  119. I get it. You think slavery is the Christian thing to do and don’t want to have your slaves deported.

    Joe (847895)

  120. Good game so far!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  121. Why did Trump have to import not one but two Slavonic brides, driving down the pre-nups of American golddiggers?

    nk (dbc370)

  122. Im glad you agree we should stop importing slave labor.

    Joe (847895)

  123. Make that presumably well meaning but hopelessly shortsighted partisans.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  124. Do you. “real” conservatives rape the children of your mexican slaves?

    Is that why you are so upset by the idea of them being deported?

    Joe (847895)

  125. 33 seconds left in the 1st half – Denver 17, New England 9.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  126. Someone, check Joe’s point of origin. I suspect New Zealand.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  127. ropelight,

    You can continue to dodge the questions the same way Hillary does, but it only points to the same conclusion, tuffff guy.
    Trump supporters are all sooooo tufffff….that’s why they’re begging Fox News to remove little dainty Megyn Kelly from the forthcoming debate.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  128. Watching the game. Stuck in hotel California.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  129. Hey Joe:

    Hey Joe, who you blowin’ with that mouth of yours?
    Hey Joe, I said who you blowin’ on that “gun” in your hand, oh
    I’m “goin’ down” to support my old lady
    You know I want her messin’ ’round with a mexican
    I’m “goin’ down” to support my old lady
    You know I don’twant her messin’ ’round with no republican
    And that ain’t too cool

    Huh, hey Joe, I heard you swallowed your congessman down
    You swallowed him down now
    Hey Joe, I heard you swallowed your representative down
    “Had him” down in the ground, yeah
    Yeah
    “Yes, I did, I had him”

    Opologies to: Jimi Hendrix

    felipe (56556d)

  130. Tiger, it’s half time, run out for a 12 pack – the Yuengling is pretty good and it’s a price performer.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  131. (felipe takes both of Joe’s hands)

    felipe: Why are you hitting yourself, Joe?

    (SMACK)

    felipe: Why are you hitting yourself, Joe?

    (SMACK)

    felipe: Why are you hitting yourself, Joe?

    (SMACK)

    (Joe falls to ground whimpering)

    Joe: But Your Mexican, felipe! I don’t understand.

    Felipe: That’s right. you are welcome.

    felipe (56556d)

  132. ropelight, that’s right, going out to purchase more alcohol is the perfect antidote to questions about Donald Trump’s lifelong Democrat partisanship.

    It certainly won’t change that fact for you on Monday morning. But it’ll make you feel better about it, today. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  133. #93, Milhouse wrote:

    There is nothing in the constitution that bars a president from having foreign citizenships.

    Except the requirement that only a natural born American citizen is eligible for the presidency.

    Where does it say anything about foreign citizenships?

    According to the claims of his supporters Cruz is every bit a natural born Canadian citizen as he is a natural born Cuban citizen.

    So what? He could also be a natural born Spanish and Irish citizen, if Spain and Ireland decided to give citizenship to anyone descended from one of their citizens. And Trump could be a natural born German citizen if Germany decided to make him one. And either of them could also take out citizenship in 15 other countries, if they liked, without losing their US citizenship. Again, so what? The constitution says not a word disqualifying citizens of other countries from the presidency. So long as one is a natural born US citizen, it makes not a whit of difference how many other citizenships one has, whether by birth or naturalization. If you claim it does, then you are making up words that aren’t in the constitution, and are even loonier than I thought you were.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  134. Yay, felipe! A Hendrix reference always makes any Sunday.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  135. There’s a fun YouTube video posted today of people snowboarding and skiing in NYC. It starts with Mayor de Blasio announcing that anyone who is out driving is “subject to arrest” and transitions to audio of Sinatra singing New York, New York with video of a snowboarder and skier being pulled by a Jeep through NYC, including Times Square, often while carrying an American flag. There are unsafe moments but it’s mostly fun. It ends with the Jeep passing a NYC police car that pulls up next to them and tells them there have been complaints, but makes it clear the police enjoyed the fun as much as anyone. There were no warnings, let alone any arrests.

    It occurred to me that this is the perfect metaphor for NY values and Donald Trump. Whatever you do, including breaking the law, is fine if it’s what you want. It’s a real-life, narcissistic Eric Cartman whose motto is “I do what I want.” Is this what Americans want in their political leaders? I have a feeling they might in some places. We’ll soon see how many and where.

    DRJ (15874d)

  136. Joe, there are no “mexican slaves”. Anyone who is free to leave their job whenever they find a better one is not a slave. “Wage slavery” is a Marxist lunacy.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  137. Thanks to papertiger and DRJ for the snowboard link.

    MD in Philly (at the moment not in Philly) (deca84)

  138. Ben” Joe

    Joe, the two of you need look no more
    You both found what you were looking for
    With a friend to call your own
    You’ll never be alone
    In you, your friend will see
    When you’re down on your knees
    (He’s got a friend in thee)

    Joe, you’re always running at the mouth
    (At the mouth)
    You’re depressed your mind has headed South
    If you ever look behind
    And you is what you find
    There’s something you should know
    You’ve got a guy to blow
    (You’ve got a guy to blow)

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  139. 10 and 1/2 minutes remaining in the 3rd qtr. New England kicks a 38 yd field goal. Score now NE 12 – Denver 17.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  140. I think its great that Jesus Christ believed in slavery.

    Clearly all you wonderful Christians are good people for importing helpless slaves and driving down wages.

    What a Christian thing to do.

    Joe (29bbdb)

  141. I think its great that Jesus Christ believed in slavery.

    Clearly all you wonderful Christians are good people for importing helpless slaves and driving down wages.

    What a Christian thing to do.

    Joe (847895)

  142. i like tamales

    happyfeet (831175)

  143. ropelight wants to be the sports update guy at classic rock 103.7 in Wichita—or is that Louisville?…or Tampa?
    But he doesn’t want to answer questions about his suggestions that Ted Cruz is a secret supporter of the Castro Regime.
    Then again, that Hillary woman doesn’t want to answer questions about her email server.

    Why is that?
    (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  144. Well, I sort of see that “Subject to Arrest” like an apartment building I once lived it that officially had a “no pets” policy, but looked the other way as long as there were no complaints and no damage to the property.
    In other words, if you are causing a public disturbance and especially if you do damage, you have no excuse,
    on the other hand…

    MD in Philly (at the moment not in Philly) (deca84)

  145. I know people are rarely censored from the site,
    but can we have a show of hands to get rid of “Joe”
    i!!!!
    (that’s my hand, one thumb and 4 fingers, up in the air…)

    MD in Philly (at the moment not in Philly) (deca84)

  146. Joe,

    Why do you suppose that a good Christian man such as Barack Obama would import Mexican slaves during the past 7 years?
    That sounds weird—doesn’t it?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  147. Here’s a free clue, Joe: When you have lost all the support from the Mexicans on this site, you have lost the argument forever. Stop embarrassing yourself.

    felipe (56556d)

  148. #Hands up – Joe’s out!

    felipe (56556d)

  149. Hand’s up… Three strikes, he’s out.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  150. The white genocide or “final solution” can be attributed to the choices made by female chauvinists and a minority of Americans to resume sacrificial rites, normalize other dysfunctional orientations and behaviors, and to prioritize pursuit of wealth, pleasure, and leisure. And, to a lesser, but no less significant, degree, the invitation of excessive and unmeasured (e.g. illegal) immigration, and other anti-native policies.

    It must be unsettling for surviving boys and girls to realize that they could have been planned and/or cannibalized by the female chauvinists, liberals, progressives, and libertarians under sacrificial rites resumed through the State’s establishment of a pro-choice cult based on a faith pulled out of the dark fringes of a penumbra. And that one ore more of their sisters or brothers was likely sacrificed and/or cannibalized for the sake of progress, libertinism, and to earn the favor of secular gods and goddesses.

    n.n (be9a43)

  151. The womb: The most dangerous place on Earth.

    Lord, have mercy on us all.

    I’m off to worship He-Who-Is. Peace be with you all, including Joe.

    felipe (56556d)

  152. I thought Joe was excommunicated yesterday, and I was glad the whack job was dealt with so expeditiously. So count me among those who’re nonplussed by his sick act. He reminds me the Poison Dwarf a New Zealand sheep shagger who thoroughly contaminated Dana’s CSPT and FSJ sites.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  153. Hello all.

    Just got back from a whirlwind tour of most of the interweb sites I enjoy. Y’know what I found out, or at least confirmed a suspicion? Go on, ask me. OK, ya pulled it out of me. Get this…(everybody should have quieted down and leaned in by now)…Trump supporters, at least the ones that comment, are…(baited breath and looks of curiosity all around)…are…nuts. There, I said it. From my crappy Kindle to your Cheeto dust covered laptop screens.

    The final domino to my realization were responses to a rather innocuous article posted by Ben Shapiro at Breitbart, which is famous for its pro-Trump leaning.

    pieter (ec44a2)

  154. Denver scores field goal at 10 minutes left in the 4th qtr. Denver 20 – New England 12.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  155. y’all are a mess i’m cooking bacon i just started baking it for the first time this year so blts on pretzel rolls have become kind of a regular thing

    my family brought me a bunch when they was here

    i remember one day we went to the lounge at Trump Tower and the kids just thought that was the coolest thing ever

    it was sort of a slow time in the afternoon and the staff was super sweet the kids had some flatbreads and i had a pretty decent manhattan

    i think we also did a charcuterie plate and the picky girl-child liked that especially

    all in all I think Mr. Trump would make a good president cause his staff was so nice it must mean he’s a really good guy that knows how to look out for people and make sure they have a nice time

    happyfeet (831175)

  156. irrespective of who wins the nomination we have to make the best of it even if it’s a canada person cause of hillary is … what is japanese word for soul-death

    happyfeet (831175)

  157. maybee would know

    happyfeet (831175)

  158. Pork chops with apple sauce, Lima beans, and corn bread.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  159. 7 1/2 minutes left in the game and New England is red hot.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  160. Denver stops NE on 4th and 1 on the 21 yard line with 6 minutes left in regulation time.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  161. (that’s my hand, one thumb and 4 fingers, up in the air…)
    MD in Philly (at the moment not in Philly) (deca84) — 1/24/2016 @ 2:25 pm

    Yoda’s vote somewhat different in manner is, but totally in favor of booting joe I am!

    Joe, for you this sign is:

    …………………./´¯/)
    ………………..,/¯../
    ………………./…./
    …………./´¯/’…’/´¯¯`·¸
    ………./’/…/…./……./¨¯\
    ……..(‘(…´…´…. ¯~/’…’)
    ………\……………..’…../
    ……….”…\………. _.·´
    …………\…………..(
    …………..\………….\…

    Yoda (feee21)

  162. Rope, it really is an epic game.

    pieter (ec44a2)

  163. Broncos punt. NE ball on their 29 yard line with 4:35 seconds remaining.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  164. Again, NE ball on Denver’s 14 yard line. 4th and 6. 2:25 to go. Challenge on the field. Ruled an incomplete, NE Challenging the call. Call confirmed. Crucial play coming up. 4th and 6.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  165. Mistake – it was Denver who challenged the call and it cost them a time out. Now 1 minute 58 seconds remaining. Denver punts. NE ball on 50 yard line. Tom Brady with fire in his eyes.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  166. According to that Photochop, Trump has been one busy boy. Just a private, and he already has an Iron Cross First Class and an Iron Cross Second Class.

    Sorry. That’s just the pedant in me coming out. I’ll put it away now.

    Bill H (dcdd7b)

  167. NE completes a 4th and 10 pass to the 10 yard line. Still down 12 to 20 with less than 1 minute remaining. Completes a pass to the 4 yard line 3rd and goal. Incomplete pass now 4th and goal with 17 seconds remaining. The fat lady is warming up and she’s ready to sing Rocky Mountain High.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  168. Grownkowski catched TD pass. Now 18 to 20 and a 2 point attempt coming up. Denver takes 30 second time out. This either ties the game and sends it to overtime or Denver wins.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  169. Denver intercepts in the End Zone, runs it out but fumbles between the 15 and 20. NE onside kick. Denver catches the ball. Game over. Denver wins 18 to 20.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  170. Aaaah, ropelight I remember. Yes, Phoenician In the Time of Romans or Pho as some called it, right?

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  171. This is stupid. Who the hell knew what “whitegenocide” meant until it was recently pointed out.

    Mike (474074)

  172. Hooray! Pats lost!

    pieter (ec44a2)

  173. What is this guy Joe’s thing anyway? All the crap about slavery, and conservatives and Christians. I don’t think he understands what those words mean. Sounds like he banged his head once too often.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  174. Yes, he did… Literally.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  175. Why is Cruz associating himself with the all knowing always full of it, Beck?
    Before South Carolina it would be nice for Cruz to get a Bevin or Lee endorsement.

    mg (31009b)

  176. beck is the kiss of death he’s such a whiner

    happyfeet (831175)

  177. Sounds like he banged his head once too often.
    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 1/24/2016 @ 3:38 pm

    Dropped on his head as a child repeatedly he was! Intentional on the part of his mother, post-birth abortion attempts they were! So sad not successful!

    Yoda (feee21)

  178. If helping Ted Cruz was Beck’s intention, he should have endorsed The Donald.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  179. What does that mean? Cause McGovern had 17 electoral votes and lost 49 states. Would you consider that a disaster? Or do you mean in some other way?

    Trump’s candidacy will result in a complete schism of the Republican Party. There will be the Trump faction (largely nativists) and the Tea Party and the Establishment will have very little in common with them. I expect at least one alternative GOP candidate nationally if Trump is the nominee/

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  180. OK, I’m too tired to search through all your prattle, but how do you answer Trump’s past support of:

    Obama.
    Obamacare
    Single payer.
    Hillary.
    The Clintons in general.
    Late-term abortions
    Higher taxes
    Gun control

    Just for starters.
    Maybe YOU did not exactly claim that these were just business-based lies to get happy business partners, but the claim has been repeatedly made.

    If your answer is anything like that, how do you know he’s not doing the same to you now?

    If, instead, you hold to the “his attitudes evolved” [just recently in time for this nomination process], what makes you think they won’t evolve again?

    Believing Trump is like believing a serial perjuror who says he’s telling the truth now.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  181. Lots of ordinary TEA Party people support Trump, I’m one. It’s the ambitious wannabe TEA Party leaders who are sucking up to Cruz and the GOPe selling out for a seat at the table. What they don’t understand is that the best they’ll ever get is lip service and leftovers. They’re just not the right kind of people.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  182. Yikes! I just tuned into the Cards Panthers game. I’m expecting a huge comeback.

    felipe (56556d)

  183. O.K., the warcraft trailer caught me by surprise. Blizzard make tons of cash from Warcraft, and this is what they do with it? Why not, with reality sucking new heights, escape is the desired response.

    felipe (56556d)

  184. Hillary Clinton just retweeted @OnlyBlackLivesMatter. If you go to the account itself there is a Photoshop of Hillary lynching Ben Carson.

    Not really, of course. But if that happened none of you Trump supporters would get upset. In fact, if I even noted it, you’d chalk it up to Hillary Derangement Syndrome.

    On account of how consistent and principled you are. Always against attacking candidates for retweeting obviously racist accounts: that’s your principle and you’re sticking with it!!!

    Patterico (0c250b)

  185. This is stupid. Who the hell knew what “whitegenocide” meant until it was recently pointed out.

    That’s a brilliant satirical comment. Which I’m guessing was not meant satirically?

    Patterico (0c250b)

  186. 175 Trump’s candidacy will result in a complete schism of the Republican Party. There will be the Trump faction (largely nativists) and the Tea Party and the Establishment will have very little in common with them. I expect at least one alternative GOP candidate nationally if Trump is the nominee/

    So the Tea Party and the Establishment are open borders guys and are willing to split the party rather than restrict immigration.

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  187. So, Kevin, I was right about you:

    I fully expect you to duck and dodge…

    And you did exactly that. Now you’re back with the same stupid nonsense. What a coincidence, you’re just too tired to back up your last set of misrepresentations, so you’d like me to respond to a few new idiot allegations. Sure, but pull my finger first.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  188. By the way: telling me not to blog about Trump is likely to have pretty much the same effect as mocking Trump supporters do supporting him. It may feel good to say, but you’re likely to get more of it. If you don’t know that by now, you don’t know me too well.

    Patterico (0c250b)

  189. Lets go, Cards!

    felipe (56556d)

  190. Bye Joe!

    Patterico (0c250b)

  191. Cue Handel’s Messiah

    “Alleluia”

    felipe (56556d)

  192. @Patterico:Hillary Clinton just retweeted @OnlyBlackLivesMatter.

    Anyone who retweets @JesusChrist must be a Christian, I suppose.

    Does “white genocide” mean, always and everywhere in English, “white people are committing genocide”?

    Or can it also mean “white people are the victims of genocide”?

    When someone adds TM, meaning “trademark”, to something that’s not trademarked are they confused about trademark law, or being satirical?

    The picture of Trump in SS uniform gassing Bernie–is that a satirical criticism of Trump and his followers? Or is it a call to kill Jews?

    Can we tell from a Twitter handle the difference between a troll and the real thing?

    Because I’ve seen satire equally over the top, and I’ve seen the Outrageously Outraged hyperventilate about it too.

    I am considerably less a fan of Trump than you are, sir.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  193. Don’t look at me, Patterico, I never suggested you stop blogging about Trump. I not only know better I’m grateful you continue to provide this forum. You’re the 600 pound Gorilla and when you’re belly hooked the sensible thing to do is let the passion run it’s course.

    You’re a good man, I trust you. This too will pass.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  194. Trump fan, but “look who he retweeted” is an outrage game played by the left against anyone to the right of them.

    Don’t kid yourself. This kind of thing will be noted by anyone, as my Hillary Clinton example shows. It’s just a question of whose ox is being gored.

    A few years ago Charles Johnson was doing this to anyone who linked to Robert Stacy McCain.

    And that is absurd, because Robert Stacy McCain cannot control who links to him. Donald Trump can control who he retweets. He made a choice and I am criticizing him for that. If retweeting racist accounts is a topic that is off limits for criticism, then can you give me the rulebook of what I am and am not allowed to criticize? I’d surely appreciate it. And then I would ignore it.

    Patterico (0c250b)

  195. @Patterico:If retweeting racist accounts is a topic that is off limits for criticism,

    Assumes facts not in evidence. You have no idea if that account is real or trolling.

    There are plenty of criticism of Trump that make sense. This one does not.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  196. Thank you for banning Joe,
    feel free to keep blogging about Trump
    there is nothing more that is worthwhile for me to read about him, positive or negative
    but it will give me an opportunity to exercise self-control and not comment

    But before I go, one last question that I haven’t seen answered,
    I thought in the past P said it was bad form to not vote and let someone let Obama or Hillary win,
    am I confused and mixing people up?

    MD in Philly (at the moment not in Philly) (deca84)

  197. @@Patterico: Robert Stacy McCain cannot control who links to him.

    Charles was calling racist anyone who linked to McCain. The situation is exactly analogous.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  198. Telling other people what they can and cannot do, but always exempting your own behavior, is a leftist tactic.

    felipe (56556d)

  199. 189 … If retweeting racist accounts is a topic that is off limits for criticism, …

    It’s not off limits but it doesn’t seem like an effective way of convincing racists not to back Trump.

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  200. The Trump Fans have all sorts of guidelines for what everyone else needs to do when it comes to etiquette on the internet, at press conferences, at debates, et al, but when it comes to taking questions from Megyn Kelly, Hugh Hewitt, or a number of people here, they all just run for the tornado bunker like in ‘The Wizard of Oz.’

    …and those are the folks who can best deal with Putin.
    (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  201. Cards down to Carolina 7 to 24. Less than a minute remaining in the 2nd qty. First Cards intercept a pass deep in their end of the field on the 6 yard line and get a great 72 yard runback all the way to the Carolina 22. Things are looking up for the Cards.

    But, on 1st and 10 from the 22 Palmer throws a complimentary interception in the End Zone with 49 seconds left in the half. He did the one thing he couldn’t do – he squandered the opportunity for a field goal.

    Looks like it’ll be a long rough night for the Cards.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  202. Free piece of advice: you can’t always be sure about the beliefs of people you’re re-tweeting, but “@WhiteGenocideTM” is a pretty obvious clue. Then again, Trump is pretty clueless.

    top116 (d094f8)

  203. @top116:You can’t always be sure about the beliefs of people you’re re-tweeting, but @JesusChrist is a pretty obvious clue.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  204. ropelight, (ae6e5e) – 1/24/2016 @ 5:10 pm. Your comment is awaiting moderation. ?????

    There’s nothing wrong with my comment. See for yourself.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  205. Anyone who retweets @GodfreyElfwick must be a genderqueer Muslim atheist, or in sympathy with them.

    That guy sounds messed up. Nobody can possible be confused about whether he means what he posts.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  206. I’m sorry you are so frustrated.

    Mark Johnson (a64489)

  207. i forgive you Mr. Trump for how you did the retweeters on that guy with the Jeb Bush pic

    I forgive you

    we’re all good

    right as rain Mr. T

    happyfeet (831175)

  208. Half way in the 3rd qtr Carolina going through Arizona like sh*t through a goose 27 to 7.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  209. It’s not off limits but it doesn’t seem like an effective way of convincing racists not to back Trump.

    You seem to be under the mistaken impression that is somehow a goal of mine.

    Patterico (0c250b)

  210. “If something happened along your route and you had to leave your children with Ted Cruz or Donald Trump, I think you would probably leave them with Bob Dole.”

    – Bob Dole

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  211. “Bye Joe!”

    Patterico

    C’mon, man… He had us when he said you planned to kill us and rape our children, but it all went downhill from there.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  212. 204 You seem to be under the mistaken impression that is somehow a goal of mine.

    I was kind of under the impression you wanted people to stop supporting Trump.

    So what is your goal? To make sure everyone understands you are morally superior to those benighted racists who support Trump?

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  213. Off topic: Be like Bilal.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  214. Could you imagine the tedium of following Trump’s twitter, scouring for things direct, tangential, or imaginary to pop his big elephant balloon?

    It must be exhausting.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  215. Another throw, another pick! Palmer unable to settle down. what does that make, 6 turnovers?

    felipe (56556d)

  216. There is no joy in Arizona, 4 picks so far and 3 1/2 minutes to go.

    ropelight (ae6e5e)

  217. Let’s see if Carson can make it 8 turnovers.

    felipe (56556d)

  218. Do you have a score update on that thrilling lacrosse match between Amherst and Williams?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  219. Gabriel Hanna:

    Does “white genocide” mean, always and everywhere in English, “white people are committing genocide”?

    Or can it also mean “white people are the victims of genocide”?

    On the contrary, it always means the latter. Specifically, it is a reliable indicator of a Stormfronter, who claims to believe that the white race is threatened with genocide by the inferior races and must be defended by subjugating them or wiping them out. Same as “RaHoWa”.

    Can we tell from a Twitter handle the difference between a troll and the real thing?

    Not always, but the name should ring a loud alarm bell, and someone in Trump’s position can’t afford to retweet anything from a user with such a handle, any more than he can afford to allow an employee to use such a handle, even ironically.

    Patterico:

    A few years ago Charles Johnson was doing this to anyone who linked to Robert Stacy McCain.

    And that is absurd, because Robert Stacy McCain cannot control who links to him. Donald Trump can control who he retweets.

    You misunderstand. Johnson had decided that McCain is a racist, and therefore anyone who linked to his writing must be one too. The major differences are that: (1) The evidence of McCain’s racism is debatable at best. (2) Even if we stipulate that he is racist, he is an established journalist who writes many worthwhile articles that are clearly non-racist. It was objectively unreasonable of Johnson to demand that the entire world boycott his entire work just because of some views he might hold that aren’t exactly in line with the mainstream, even if they know about those views and agree with his assessment of them. It is not unreasonable to expect people to refrain from retweeting someone whose very name denotes unquestionably unacceptable views, and who is not to be expected to have anything useful to say. If you must quote something such a person tweets, do it without attribution.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  220. @Patterico:If retweeting racist accounts is a topic that is off limits for criticism,

    Assumes facts not in evidence. You have no idea if that account is real or trolling.

    It’s racist regardless. Either sincerely racist or intended to mock racists, but Trump knew or ought to have known that the handle was racist and therefore toxic.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  221. Anyone who retweets @GodfreyElfwick must be a genderqueer Muslim atheist, or in sympathy with them.

    The name Godfrey Elfwick gives no clue about anything. It’s a completely neutral name from which nothing can be deduced.

    @JesusChrist is a pretty obvious clue.

    Actually it is, in the opposite direction. It’s very unlikely that an actual Christian would presume to tweet in his god’s name. Therefore anyone tweeting in that name is almost guaranteed not to be a Christian, and therefore to be using the name to mock or taunt Christians.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  222. It’s getting stranger and stranger…

    but the truth is out there!

    And I intend to find it on Fox TV tonight with Fox and Mulder. They will make more sense than this election.

    🙂

    Patricia (5fc097)

  223. Oh come on. Does one have to thoroughly vet a Photoshop artist before he likes one graphic? Do a background investigation? The artwork stands on its own. Trump did not praise the Nazi picture, he laughed and joked about the Jeb graphic. To insinuate that Trump must therefore be a Neo-Nazi is very poor logic.

    I agree, Fortunately I did no such thing.

    Does one have to “thoroughly vet” the Photoshop artist? Of course not. Might the name “WhiteGenocide” cause a man with supposedly great judgment to think twice? It ought to — if that man cares about ANYTHING other than whether the Photoshop artist supports him.

    Of course, as we know, Trump cares about ZERO other than whether people support him. That’s why he praises Putin if Putin praises him, even if Putin murders journalists.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  224. Oh come on. Does one have to thoroughly vet a Photoshop artist before he likes one graphic? Do a background investigation? The artwork stands on its own. Trump did not praise the Nazi picture, he laughed and joked about the Jeb graphic. To insinuate that Trump must therefore be a Neo-Nazi is very poor logic.

    Stogie,

    If I wanted to criticize Trump’s judgment for uncritically retweeting someone whose very name suggests he is a racist, how would the post read differently?

    What’s that? It wouldn’t read differently at all?

    OK then.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  225. Saying Trump is a bad guy because he retweeted something from somebody who may be pretending to be a white supremacist is straight out of that playbook.

    Please quote the portion of the post where I say “Trump is a bad guy because he retweeted” anything.

    Then go to the actual Twitter account, Gabriel, and stake your reputation here on the notion that this fella is only pretending to be a white supremacist. I’ll wait.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  226. Irony with zero indication that it’s irony is either shitty irony or (far more likely) not irony at all.

    But have fun twisting yourself into a pretzel to defend this. I’ll just watch, and perhaps point and laugh as your credibility dissipates.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  227. Mike K sez:

    Once TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) takes hold the minds of men are helpless to resist the goading urgency to embarrass themselves with petty displays of sophomoric pique.

    See you after the election, Patrick.

    I have always enjoyed your commentary, Mike K — well, that is, right up until the time when you bizarrely declared that you felt the need to defend Trump from “attacks” that were totally legitimate.

    I didn’t ban you just because you appeared to me to be acting unreasonably. It is within your rights to stomp off and flounce because you can’t bear to see me express my honest opinions. But it is more than a little disappointing.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  228. It is not unreasonable to expect people to refrain from retweeting someone whose very name denotes unquestionably unacceptable views

    Sounds alot like white shaming, doesn’t it.
    Sounds to me like you are saying the color of my skin is unacceptable.

    Where do you get off pointing a finger at anybody?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  229. 216Not always, but the name should ring a loud alarm bell, and someone in Trump’s position can’t afford to retweet anything from a user with such a handle, any more than he can afford to allow an employee to use such a handle, even ironically.

    Evidently Trump disagrees about what he can afford to do. As do his supporters.

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  230. If you’re ever confused about any issue, just check out what James B. Shearer has to say. You can’t go wrong disagreeing.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  231. This Trump guy and his judgment…it’s almost as if he’s the type of person who’d brazenly tell a reporter that he thinks Carly Fiorina has an ugly face or that he believes Dr. Carson’s reputation as a physician is overstated.
    Next thing we know, he’s going to tweet about Megyn Kelly’s menstrual cycle.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  232. It’s interesting, the orthodoxy here that deems certain criticism to be off limits.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  233. 229 229.It’s interesting, the orthodoxy here that deems certain criticism to be off limits.

    You are the one who is trying to say some things (like Trump’s retweet) are out of bounds. I believe in free speech myself.

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  234. They’re acting like Democrats, these Trumpsters.

    John Hitchcock (b495dc)

  235. James B. Shearer,

    “Free speech” is different from “good judgment.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  236. Thankfully, they won’t get to 47%. More like 33%. Anyway, living in Chicago, the only thing I have to worry about from Trump supporters is that their screams will keep me awake. In other localities, people with dark hair and suntans might want to avoid the vicinity of trailer parks and retirement communities while Trump is pumping up the fear and hatred.

    nk (dbc370)

  237. Trump lovers – how do you answer Trump’s past support of:

    Obama.
    Obamacare
    Single payer.
    Hillary.
    The Clintons in general.
    Late-term abortions
    Higher taxes
    Gun control
    Financial support of Dems and their foundations

    Kevin asked you earlier, and crickets.

    JD (b3cb62)

  238. You are the one who is trying to say some things (like Trump’s retweet) are out of bounds. I believe in free speech myself.

    Oh, I see. You believe in free speech meaning the right to speak without being criticized. No wonder you seek to live in Donald Trump’s fascist utopia.

    Me, I believe in actual free speech. The government can’t shut you down, and frivolous lawsuits such as those Donald Trump constantly threatens are not allowed. But when someone says stupid things, they get criticized.

    That’s actual support for free speech, James B. Shearer. Try learning some of the principles of the founding of our Republic.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  239. Kevin asked you earlier, and crickets.

    That stuff was in the video I linked.

    I told all the present and putative Trump supporters that it was obvious they hadn’t watched the video.

    Nobody denied it.

    There is no reasoning with an ostrich with its head buried in the sand. All you can do is kick it in the rear end. And that’s what I’m doing.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  240. It is not unreasonable to expect people to refrain from retweeting someone whose very name denotes unquestionably unacceptable views

    Sounds alot like white shaming, doesn’t it.
    Sounds to me like you are saying the color of my skin is unacceptable.

    It sounds nothing like that. The color of your skin is irrelevant; but the view that it is relevant, and all the other related views that go under the rubric of “white genocide”, are absolutely unacceptable, and anyone who holds them ought to be shamed.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  241. From a player-killing medieval role player game I used to play:

    Miscreant characters believe in using any means possible to further their own personal goals, not really caring who gets hurt in the process. They do not seek to kill or hurt others, except in cases of revenge, but they do end up hurting the unfortunate few who are in the wrong place at the wrong time. They justify this as being the other person’s fault for getting in their way in the first place. They have a tendency to seek large amounts of wealth and power, and thus, are the type who attract weak-willed henchmen and lackeys. They have no respect for law and order, unless they control that law and order, and so usually break those annoying little laws left and right.”

    That sums up Trump. And that definition also has the added benefit of specifically pointing out his followers within it.

    John Hitchcock (b495dc)

  242. 238… are absolutely unacceptable, and anyone who holds them ought to be shamed.

    This is a standard left tactic. Declare certain views like opposition to gay marriage absolutely unacceptable and try to exclude anyone who holds them from contributing to political debates.

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  243. 234234.Trump lovers – how do you answer Trump’s past support of:…

    Nobody’s perfect.

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  244. James B. Shearer, you appear to be lacking a moral compass. While a person has a right to say things that are reprehensible, that does not abstain that person from being judged for the content of their speech.

    Sure, Trump has a right to re-tweet something by a jerk, but we also have the right to make a judgment about the content of the tweet, as well as make a judgment about the content of the character of the person who chooses to tweet behind a racially inflammatory moniker.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  245. I’ve been in lurking mode for some time, but this thread is horribly painful to read, and I had to say something. Please, a little more respect for each other.

    Bradley J. Fikes (37d6d0)

  246. In #241, I should have used the word “absolve” rather than the word “abstain.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  247. Am I supposed to take it on faith that a guy would dress up Trump as an Auschwitz executioner because he’s a big fan?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  248. @Patterico:Please quote the portion of the post where I say “Trump is a bad guy because he retweeted” anything.

    Please quote me attributing that opinion to you. You do say “nothing creepy about that, no sir!” which I took to be ironic, but perhaps you were not. And perhaps you were ironic, but you know fine upstanding guys that you call “creepy”.

    stake your reputation here on the notion that this fella is only pretending to be a white supremacist. I’ll wait.

    That would be a huge waste of time, investigating a random dude on the internet to figure out if he is or is not a troll. Which is a large part of my point. Poe’s Law.

    Think back to 2010, when you were banned from LGF for pointing out that a “racist” picture had been made by a Democrat to satirize racism.

    Trump is a cornucopia of things to criticize. I just don’t think this is a good one to make, because a) similar charges have been used against you and lots of others identified with the right, and b) Trump’s popularity now is due to people being fed up with these kinds of tactics.

    You’re not hurting Trump, you’re helping him. I don’t want to see Trump helped.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  249. 241.James B. Shearer, you appear to be lacking a moral compass. While a person has a right to say things that are reprehensible, that does not abstain that person from being judged for the content of their speech.

    You are going beyond that and adversely judging anyone you can link to the person who said something you think was reprehensible. Some of us are tired of that game.

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  250. This is a standard left tactic. Declare certain views like opposition to gay marriage absolutely unacceptable and try to exclude anyone who holds them from contributing to political debates.

    It’s a standard tactic of all decent people. F***ing nazi view are not acceptable, and nazis have nothing to contribute to political debate. They should shut their f***ing pieholes and thank their lucky stars that our respect for the first amendment prevents us from arresting them.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  251. Am I supposed to take it on faith that a guy would dress up Trump as an Auschwitz executioner because he’s a big fan?

    A stormfronter absolutely would do that.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  252. @Milhouse:A stormfronter absolutely would do that.

    So would a parody. Poe’s Law. Pointless to judge from appearances.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  253. 247 It’s a standard tactic of all decent people. F***ing nazi view are not acceptable, and nazis have nothing to contribute to political debate. They should shut their f***ing pieholes and thank their lucky stars that our respect for the first amendment prevents us from arresting them.

    And this is why people support Trump, they are tired of being told to shut up.

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  254. @Patterico:Please quote the portion of the post where I say “Trump is a bad guy because he retweeted” anything.

    Please quote me attributing that opinion to you.

    OK.

    Saying Trump is a bad guy because he retweeted something from somebody who may be pretending to be a white supremacist is straight out of that playbook.

    — Gabriel Hanna, 1/24/2016 @ 8:04 am

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  255. Think back to 2010, when you were banned from LGF for pointing out that a “racist” picture had been made by a Democrat to satirize racism.

    Totally different. Because this was not satire.

    Trump is a cornucopia of things to criticize. I just don’t think this is a good one to make, because a) similar charges have been used against you and lots of others identified with the right, and b) Trump’s popularity now is due to people being fed up with these kinds of tactics.

    You’re not hurting Trump, you’re helping him. I don’t want to see Trump helped.

    I’m not doing anything other than saying what I think and reporting facts. If reporting that he retweeted a Neo-Nazi’s tweet then yay America.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  256. James B. Shearer,

    You actually made the re-tweet an issue of “free speech” in #230.

    But a presidential candidate ought to have better discretion than to re-tweet something by someone with “White Supremacist” in their Twitter handle. It’s a matter of judgment, at the very least. And preferably, their instinct will lead them to be offended by such a Twitter handle.

    You would personally NOT re-tweet something by someone with a Twitter handle of “Wife Beater” or “Child Molestor”—am I right to assume that?…regardless of whether the TWEET itself is offensive. The point is that the Twitter handle is so offensive that you would have the instinct to stay away from it, right?

    The Democrats and the media are going to throw the entire kitchen sink at our eventual nominee. We can not afford to nominate someone who provides them with easy ammunition.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  257. And this is why people support Trump, they are tired of being told to shut up.

    Stormfronters should support Trump. I hope they all do, and make as much noise as they can about it, so their stink sticks to him and he can never erase it.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  258. @Milhouse:A stormfronter absolutely would do that.

    So would a parody. Poe’s Law.

    Indeed. But papertiger seemed incredulous that any fan of Trump would do that, and to take the picture’s existence as proof that it was made by a Trump enemy. I had to explain that a Stormfronter would make such a picture and think that he was praising Trump.

    And the point is not whether the twitterer in question is a genuine Stormfronter or parodying one. Trump should not have retweeted anything from someone with such a handle.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  259. It used to be people who spent their entire lives on the wrong side of every issue were rejected by the people who frequent this site. But Trump has changed that. Now, with Trump spending his entire life on the wrong side of every issue, that’s just youthful indiscretions and Trump being Trump.

    John Hitchcock (b495dc)

  260. @Patterico: The subject of that sentence was not you. You have decided to assume that it is, and you have quoted nothing I have said to show that it was.

    You also said “Nothing creepy about that! No, sir!”

    Were you intended to be taken literally?

    If not, were you using “creepy” as a descriptor for someone who is a good person?

    I’m not doing anything other than saying what I think and reporting facts.

    And maybe Trump was doing nothing but retweeting out a funny picture he saw, like millions do every day.

    And when you link to a cat picture made by a child molester and get smeared, I’ll defend you then.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  261. 253 The Democrats and the media are going to throw the entire kitchen sink at our eventual nominee. We can not afford to nominate someone who provides them with easy ammunition.

    None of the candidates are perfect to say the least. A candidate which it appears every other elected Republican hates is open to attack as well. And Trump is running on the premise that the PC police are a bit of a paper tiger, that you can ignore their dictates and not suffer too much (and perhaps even gain votes from people who don’t like the PC police).

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  262. 256.It used to be people who spent their entire lives on the wrong side of every issue were rejected by the people who frequent this site. But Trump has changed that. Now, with Trump spending his entire life on the wrong side of every issue, that’s just youthful indiscretions and Trump being Trump.

    This makes no sense, you maybe mean his entire life up until he decided to run for President?

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  263. James B. Shearer,

    I’m beginning to conclude you simply don’t think there’s anything wrong with associating with someone who has a Twitter handle such as “White Supremacist.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  264. You also said “Nothing creepy about that! No, sir!”

    Were you intended to be taken literally?

    If not, were you using “creepy” as a descriptor for someone who is a good person?

    As should be pretty clear, I was calling that second Photoshop creepy.

    @Patterico: The subject of that sentence was not you. You have decided to assume that it is, and you have quoted nothing I have said to show that it was.

    OK. So in a post where I criticized Trump for retweeting a white supremacist, you left a comment criticizing me for the post, saying: “Not a Trump fan, but ‘look who he retweeted’ is an outrage game played by the left against anyone to the right of them.” Then you say this:

    Saying Trump is a bad guy because he retweeted something from somebody who may be pretending to be a white supremacist is straight out of that playbook.

    But say that you weren’t referring to me?

    OK. That’s kind of hard to believe, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. So: who on earth were you referring to, then?

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  265. Lots of ordinary TEA Party people support Trump, I’m one.

    Then you are a traitor to everything the tea parties stood for:

    Small government.
    Rule of law.
    Returning to the Constitution.
    Bourgeois values.

    None of these seems to be on Trump’s agenda.

    Instead, it’s:

    Big, bossy government
    Rule of Trump
    Constitution? What’s that? Trump has never read the thing.
    Whatever values.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  266. But of course NONE of these issues matter to a lot of Trump supporters, who only care that all those Mexicans (usually in states they don’t live in) are sent south.

    I mean just how many illegal immigrants are there really in New Hampshire?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  267. If Cruz would dump beck, I wonder if his numbers would change?
    Could not possibly lose more than he has with beck.

    mg (31009b)

  268. beck makes gives me nausea.

    mg (31009b)

  269. 86 makes

    mg (31009b)

  270. But of course NONE of these issues matter to a lot of Trump supporters, who only care that all those Mexicans (usually in states they don’t live in) are sent south. I mean just how many illegal immigrants are there really in New Hampshire?

    Voters in California can’t affect New Hampshire. That’s just crazytalk.

    Have you heard of this “federal government” thing?

    scrutineer (17265e)

  271. i heard the only way to get the beckstench off is you take a bath in tomato juice

    happyfeet (831175)

  272. If Cruz picks Kasich as his v.p.
    I am most definitely out.
    Let trump have the boorish prick.

    mg (31009b)

  273. As I recall, Bradley usually contributes worthwhile things when he unlurks,
    I am not going to tell people what to do,
    But beating a dead horse turns into an ugly mess.

    Trump has not demonstrated that he is conservative,
    In fact his history is not at all conservative,
    All he has is talk,
    And lots of it.
    And he certainly looks and acts like a narcissistic megalomaniac.

    I for one understand that he makes the right enemies,
    And it appears he gets the obvious idea:
    Control the border, fer cryin out loud.

    But I don’t listen to what people say unless it is consistent with what they do.

    If one wants to be dissuaded about the birther thing with Cruz,
    Be my guest, for most of us it has been adequately addressed and is a non issue.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly) (deca84)

  274. Rule of Trump

    Donald, Donald, uber alles

    JP (56a147)

  275. ” I expect I’ll vote for whoever the nominee is. Trump’s not my first choice, but I’d certainly support him over the two socialists, Hillary and Bernie, or the control-freak billionaire Bloomberg if he enters the race.

    Meanwhile, for those alienated from the Presidential race — regardless of the reason — I encourage you to get involved in Congressional and state races. You go to an election with the party you have, but there’s no reason that has to be the party you have in two, or four, or eight years.”

    – Glenn Reynolds

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  276. Colonel, that is exactly right. Except:

    1. The suggestion takes work. And it’s much easier to snark and make up silly memes at home. Work is hard. Complaining or trying to sound superior and above it all or being weird is easy.

    2. I honestly believe some thoughtless people want to see terrible things happen, because phoenix like a Wondrous Future would emerge. History doesn’t suggest that. And I continue to be shocked that these people are so callous about the human costs. And like Alfred said to young Master Wayne:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHCdKb5UWc

    Simon Jester (e3dc78)

  277. 260 I’m beginning to conclude you simply don’t think there’s anything wrong with associating with someone who has a Twitter handle such as “White Supremacist.”

    It is fair to say I don’t think this particular incident is a big deal. And that I am hostile to the tactic of making this sort of thing into a big deal.

    James B. Shearer (0f56fb)

  278. There are people who actually like Trump.
    And there are people who like Hillary.
    And there are people who only dislike Cruz.
    In other times at each others’ throats.
    Now strange bedfellows.

    Just remember when it comes to Bernie, Hillary, Trump or Bloomberg, that a stake through the heart or a silver bullet do not work the same with all the undead. Go for the head with a load of buckshot and then finish with decapitation with an axe, cleaver or machete.

    nk (dbc370)

  279. I’ve been in lurking mode for some time, but this thread is horribly painful to read, and I had to say something. Please, a little more respect for each other.
    Bradley J. Fikes (37d6d0) — 1/24/2016 @ 9:22 pm

    Yes, welcome to Thunderdome.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  280. Sigh. Mandatory disclaimer for the stupid. No, I am not advocating shooting Bernie, Hillary, Trump or Bloomberg or cutting off their heads. That was hyperbole and figurative references to horror movies, TV shows and literature.

    nk (dbc370)

  281. Too late, nk. You have been added to the database.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  282. @Patterico:you left a comment criticizing me for the post,

    Not criticizing you for the post. Pointing out who routinely uses this argument, because the reason this argument will backfire is because of who routinely uses it. It is a criticism of the effectiveness of the argument. Trump’s popularity is largely due to people sick of that sort of thing.

    But say that you weren’t referring to me? …who on earth were you referring to, then?

    The answer to that will be found in all the stuff I said in between the two sentences of mine you quoted. I was referring to the broad class of people who use that argument and expect it to work–which is why I gave examples of other times I’d seen it done, that had nothing to do with you, except in one case where you were an incidental victim.

    The people who are usually playing Six Degrees are, in general, people you do not seem to like or respect, and so maybe you think I’m associating you with them and thus criticizing you by giving them as examples? I don’t know. Your irritation with me seems based on a lot of assumptions not derived from things I’ve said, but rather based on things you’ve assumed that I’ve assumed.

    Donald Trump is probably going to go find more people with loathsome Twitter handles to retweet; he says and does what he does because it is working. Provoking the criticism is what he’s trying to do. It’s what he’s done from the beginning since he announced. It’s free publicity. Even if he had all the money from all the GOP donors he never could have got this attention for that money.

    It’s not morally wrong, or a personal failing, that you are throwing gas on that fire, but I respectfully submit it will not have any effect that you want it to have.

    Gabriel Hanna (3d8e32)

  283. Patterico, why are you afraid of the @WhiteGenocideTM Twitter account?

    Ustuplay (4dd398)

  284. Ustuplay, why are you a white supremasist?

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  285. Another day, another troll.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  286. it’s monday and it’s supposed to rain later

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  287. Criticizing the judgment of a presidential candidate = deranged when you hit the mark.

    This thread is instructive. Obviously it was sloppy and lazy for a candidate who wants to be nominated to retweet this stuff.

    The left would take it a step further, saying this shows Trump is a white supremacist. Conflating the two arguments is just being a little too defensive about one of Trump’s biggest problems.

    We have seen this issue before. Someone who just doesn’t have the chops gets overconfident, and his fans get overconfident, because the press are pulling their punches. When he’s nominated, the gloves come off and he is destroyed.

    Trump is special in that he is actively boasting about how he can behave like this with no consequences. Trump wants to troll his opponents and critics at the same time he complains whenever he’s criticized for any legitimate reason. Unfortunately the price will be paid after the convention. Trump’s complaints about the press will be presented as weakness and desperation instead of ‘alpha’.

    His supporters may not like it, but if Trump ultimately can’t take the criticism, he shouldn’t have run.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  288. I’m inclined to give Trump (and anyone else) a pass **every once in a while** on this sort of thing. Nothing wrong with posting to mock him, either.

    But consider: what if Cruz or Rubio had made this kind of RT mistake? It would suddenly be proof that they’re big Stormfront fans. Trump largely gets a pass. And he should — but so should just about anyone else.

    Mitch (341ca0)


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