Politico Hit Piece on Ben Carson
I don’t want to name names, but it looks like there was a lot of hand-wringing over a Politico hit piece that supposedly showed Ben Carson to be a liar — and then all of a sudden it turned out that it was horsesh[vowel deleted]t.
But before it was revealed to be horsesh[vowel deleted]t, many people who should know better fell for the famous Gell-Mann amnesia effect and decided — based on a lefty hack news organization that had fooled them countless times before — that Carson was through.
Yeah, I don’t think so.
I blog more like JD when I am in trial. More brevity.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/6/2015 @ 7:47 pmGuess who is over at Hoge’s site calling Carson a liar and saying Carson’s done.
John Hitchcock (3f4674) — 11/6/2015 @ 7:52 pmSame guy who got moderated into oblivion here for his deceitful attacks on Cruz.
I read the post at Someone Else’s conservative blog that Carson was a liar and how could he possibly recover from this?
Without knowing more about the background, that seemed like an insane conclusion. How can he recover? He’s leading the polls and most people won’t ever hear about this. That’s how.
Some folks on our team get a bit too excited with these things, me thinks.
asdf (4227f2) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:02 pmit was horsesh[vowel deleted]t.
F[vowel deleted]ck Politco.com.
Mark (f713e4) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:07 pmEPWJ is effin insane, Hitch.
JD (b3cb62) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:13 pmhe’s still a neurotic fruit loop
huckabee in blackface
no thank you
happyfeet (831175) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:14 pmI have a hard time voting for a man who says the Pyramids were not tombs, but this business went by me. By the time I had figured out what CNN was talking about this morning, the story had imploded.
kishnevi (9cb6b5) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:14 pmChauncey Surgeon
Mr. M nailed it
happyfeet (831175) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:17 pmBTW, any idea when you might be able to resume the economics series?
kishnevi (31ba4e) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:17 pmAbsolutely, JD. And he won’t let it go. Not only is he an executive in the middle east oil fields like he claimed here, but his 4 daughters went to the Service Academies or something. He knows everything about everything and will never back down about anything. Glad he’s not spewing over here.
John Hitchcock (3f4674) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:19 pmCarson has a point. If you want to store enough grain to feed a nation for 7 years, you need very big buildings.
John Hitchcock (3f4674) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:20 pmplus also many grains
like thousands of grains
happyfeet (831175) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:21 pmyou have to have all the grains
plus very big buildings
happyfeet (831175) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:22 pmAs you well know, there is no reasoning with him. Especially if it fits his narrative. He swallowed the lie Politico peddled like a $20 French who-er and won’t ever acknowledge how effin wrong he is. Seen it more times than we can count here.
JD (b3cb62) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:22 pmdo we have to say, beetlejuice,
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:23 pmThe Tennessee Kid prolly lives in a holler somewhere and has running water every time it rains.
John Hitchcock (3f4674) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:27 pmthat’s one hypothesis
others?
happyfeet (831175) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:36 pmThanks for asking. I have been working pretty much around the clock for weeks. Taxpayers, you’re getting your money’s worth and then some. The answer is, I’m not sure.
If only I had a job easy enough to play golf most weekends. Looking at you, Obama.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:37 pmi finally stopped paying cali taxes when i canceled my cell
it’s a good feeling
happyfeet (831175) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:38 pmI suspected early on, there was something fishy with the story, but a lie gets halfway around the world, while the truth is getting its boots on,
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:46 pmCarson has a point. If you want to store enough grain to feed a nation for 7 years, you need very big buildings.
kishnevi (28fa9f) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:48 pmYes, but they are almost completely solid,with only some burial chambers and corridors inside. The rest is solid.Also the large majority of pyramids were smaller than the ones at Giza, and built well before the time of Joseph, which was roughly 1500 BCE.
Would someone who backs Carson please give a cogent argument why he should be president? I don’t get it at all. Really, I would like to at least understand why so many people think he’s great. I may never agree, but I’d at least like hear an explanation.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:52 pmI’m not sure I care whether he’s a bit fast with the facts — he’s in competition with Hillary, so he’s got a huge margin there.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:54 pmI don’t like to say much about it, but two mornings ago, I got up shortly after 3:30 in the morning to work. The problem was that I was dreaming about the work I had not done and could not sleep. That was rather extreme, but since October 13, mornings starting before 5 are not at all uncommon.
The thing is: 1) I am not alone in this; plenty of Americans work this hard, and 2) I really don’t think Obama has worked this hard, ever, in his entire life, including during his presidency.
Patterico (86c8ed) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:56 pmwell it must be crazy, not just the number of hours, but you have a system that is working against the very purpose of your job,
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/6/2015 @ 8:58 pmPatterico – there is no doubt that SCOAMF has never worked that hard even one day in his life.
JD (b3cb62) — 11/6/2015 @ 9:01 pmI got up shortly after 3:30 in the morning to work.
I’m 77 and left for work this morning at 5:45. Obama ? Not so much.
One nice thing about being a doctor, you never have to stop working. One of the guys who was working at the same place was a medical student in 1943. He’s 88.
Some of course, including Obama, don’t consider that a positive but it is.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 11/6/2015 @ 9:07 pmJust for the record, I’m not a Carson fan. I don’t know much about him at all. I’m a Cruz supporter.
And I wouldn’t know what to do if I had a 9 to 5 job. Probably stay home too many days. I put in a lot more hours than that, but it doesn’t feel like work. If only them crazy four-wheelers would quit being crazy around my truck…
John Hitchcock (3f4674) — 11/6/2015 @ 9:23 pmWhoa there @ 24, let’s be “super careful” about that hard worker stuff, okay? White patriarchy.
Dana (86e864) — 11/6/2015 @ 9:59 pmGo make me a sammich! And bring me a beer! A cold one.
John Hitchcock (3f4674) — 11/6/2015 @ 10:18 pmThe sad thing, though, is the meme is already accepted and has been repeated as fact. Truth is disposable.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 11/6/2015 @ 10:29 pm“Carson’s book does have a single line: “Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point.” This isn’t quite wrong either. Nobody gets scholarships per se to West Point; as a service academy, repayment is the term of service after graduation. But that’s exactly Carson’s point when he says he didn’t take up the West Point opportunity because he didn’t want the service commitment to delay his medical career.”
By what kind of sick logic has Carson not fabricated some aspect of his resume? “He only said he got a full scholarship to West Point! Clearly that’s impossible, so clearly he meant he wanted to be a doctor instead!”
What?! How in the… ?!
This isn’t an opportunity to hold Caraon to a higher standard than every other politician in this race. This is an opportunity to internalize the fact that Carson is another politician in this race. Given his platform (“I’m not a politician!!”) that’s a pretty important point.
Leviticus (73e577) — 11/6/2015 @ 10:48 pmMy point was so basic that I was later offered a retroactive scholarship to the Shaolin Kung-Fu Logic Temple.
Leviticus (73e577) — 11/6/2015 @ 10:50 pmHe did not say he got a full scholarship to West Point. He did not say he was admitted to West Point. He did not say he applied to West Point. Claiming he said any of that is either lazy or dishonest at this point, since it has been pointed out numerous times.
John Hitchcock (3f4674) — 11/6/2015 @ 10:55 pm@24 Put some pictures on the wall… maybe some coal miners or steel mill workers. Even cotton pickers will do. It will keep you focused.
Gramps, the original (bc022b) — 11/6/2015 @ 11:30 pmDirty cotton pickers? Or clean cotton pickers? What about the pot lickers?
John Hitchcock (3f4674) — 11/6/2015 @ 11:34 pmBacking obamatrade will kill any chance Carson had of winning the nomination. And good-bye Rubio, too. Two more losers bite the dust.
mg (31009b) — 11/7/2015 @ 2:11 amNarciso,
It just occurred to me that the problem is that quote came before the internet…
These days a lie has infiltrated the blogosphere, circled the world who knows how many times, and has been tweeted more than Passenger pigeons in their hay day before the truth has even greeted the morning.
People like Carson because
He is not a politician
He stood up to Obama at the prayer breakfast
He actually did something that helped people during his lifetime
He got there from a rough background without affirmative action
Those things make him a better person than most in DC, but it doesn’t mean he could accomplish much
Leviticus, I assume you didn’t read much of what has been posted here about this
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:47 amYou are so trapped by cynicism I don’t know if you will recognize Jesus when He returns.
Actually, I guess you did read at least some,
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:50 amYou just reject the reasoning out of hand.
Carson isn’t Obama. How may we count the ways?
Leviticus, if it were between you and the waste land offered by the ancient relics of Clinton and Sanders, I’d crawl across broken glass to write you in as a candidate.
But you’re not running. You have no ground game in Iowa. My write-in vote would be wasted. And now it looks like it might come down to come down to the detritus of the Bolshevik revolution against czarist Russia or a brain surgeon.
Guess who I’m voting for. Go ahead, guess!
Steve57 (ccc381) — 11/7/2015 @ 6:16 am“I don’t like to say much about it, but two mornings ago, I got up shortly after 3:30 in the morning to work. The problem was that I was dreaming about the work I had not done and could not sleep. That was rather extreme, but since October 13, mornings starting before 5 are not at all uncommon.”
Welcome to my world, but you left out finishing work at 5:30PM.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/7/2015 @ 6:28 amSoftware/hardware development using the “Agile” process.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/7/2015 @ 6:30 amBackin’ the lyin’ old sow in the race
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/7/2015 @ 6:45 amHuntin’ the Bernie pantload
Oh we sure do hope our future don’t lie
With them, you gold-brickin’ toad
Look, claiming you got a scholarship to a school you never applied to is a bit much regardless.
So Ben created the problem by not being precise. Ben wants to wax about brilliant and wonderful he was in HS I get it. Just be super accurate ALL THE TIME.
With that said, I don’t think he lied which is the central point to the ORIGINAL Politico article.
The Politico article was a hit piece and a very clumsy one since it fell apart immediately.
Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d) — 11/7/2015 @ 7:28 amms candy crowley
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/7/2015 @ 7:52 amin the Dem’s tank, the sow she
shares much of The Blame
# 22 Kevin M
I support Dr Carson because of his humility and gentle nature. I believe he puts others before himself and dare to dream of a government by the people and for the people where our leaders care more about our needs then their own. I also appreciate his common sense approach and desire to simplify government regulations.
MSL (a8c328) — 11/7/2015 @ 7:55 amLeviticus 32,
The Prospectus for the United States Military Academy at West Point states (at page 32):
I think it’s likely that Army recruiters have always called it a “full scholarship” because it is terminology a high school student would understand.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/7/2015 @ 8:26 amBy the way, the excerpt I quoted above appears on a page captioned “Admissions Information.”
DRJ (15874d) — 11/7/2015 @ 8:27 amKevin M 22,
I don’t support Ben Carson for President but I admire him for his accomplishments and abilities. We could do a lot worse for President, and have.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/7/2015 @ 8:29 amNotice how most of the crowd so thrilled about — so dazzled by, so in love with — the idea of “first black…” or “first woman” — or, hell, “first gay…” — seems to lose its ardor when dealing with Ben Carson or Carly Fiorina or [insert name of well-known, prominent conservative homosexual here, the infinitesimal number that exists out there].
Ben Carson as US president in 2008 wouldn’t have given a trashy, sleazy, banana-republic veneer to the Oval Office — to this nation — the way the current occupant has done (although I do dislike things like Obamatrade).
Mark (f713e4) — 11/7/2015 @ 8:41 am@ Leviticus,
Perhaps the reasonable and easy-to-understand explanation from a Naval Academy graduate and a West Point graduate can clarify:
and:
Dana (86e864) — 11/7/2015 @ 8:52 amThis is an opportunity to internalize the fact that Carson is another politician in this race.
Yea, the meme that liberals or tricky competing Republicans like Jeb or Donald want to promote.
Mark (f713e4) — 11/7/2015 @ 8:57 amBelieve me, I know. Even if I am getting 5 hours of sleep a night for weeks on end, I have it good.
Patterico (caf1cd) — 11/7/2015 @ 9:06 amAt Pearl Harbor in December of 1941 the Japanese reported that the USN had responded with effective anti-aircraft fire within five minutes. At the battle of Santa Cruz the carrier escorts led by SOUTH DAKOTA and I believe the light anti-aircraft cruiser SAN JUAN that the few returning JapanIese were literally rendered speechless.
I’m not making this up. An officer on the JUNYO noted how few planes returned from the strike that day. Every one of those planes had been holed. And at least one dive bomber strike leader was so traumatized by what he went through he couldn’t speak coherently.
Me? I never did anything remarkable. I got back from my first cruise and was overjoyed to discover I only had to share a bathroom with one other guy. As opposed to 48. Now I live in a house with three commodes, and I don’t have to share them with anybody.
Yes, I have it good. Thanks guys, and sorry for disturbing your graves by sailing over them.
Steve57 (ccc381) — 11/7/2015 @ 9:57 amBear with me here:
Angelo (34edfd) — 11/7/2015 @ 10:06 amA student wants to go to college, let’s say he was a fabulous basketball player. He applies to many schools, and some recruit him. He gets all sorts of offers, from partial to full scholarships. He selects a particular school and attends that one. Is anything he says in the future about his past prospects at the other schools bogus,embellishment or lies if he mentions an offer?
Ben Carson as US president in 2008 wouldn’t have given a trashy, sleazy, banana-republic veneer to the Oval Office — to this nation — the way the current occupant has done
Fine, but why would he be competent? What are his political instincts? I get that he’s a social conservative. I get that he’s a Christian. Neither of those is necessarily bad, but it’s hardly enough.
He doesn’t seem to have any real message on fiscal, foreign or structural issues. He give no real indication he’s thought much about them. His comments on Afghanistan after 9/11 are more dovish than anyone since McGovern — but who knows, that could change tomorrow. His comments on taxes are all over the place. His comments on regulations and bureaucracy are so vague as to be meaningless.
It seems that he appeals to those who are principally SoCon and is intentionally vague on everything else. Since I don’t care all that much about SoCon issues (other than basic religious freedom) this gives me pause. That the answers I DO get on the subjects I care about are either vague and filled with platitudes, or just silly, his demeanor and “goodness” don’t really score all that high.
He’s not running for camp counselor.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/7/2015 @ 10:06 amAngelo @55, you’re not confused.
The LHMFM that conveniently develops dementia about how lying works when the subject is Hillary! is making s*** up about Carson.
Steve57 (ccc381) — 11/7/2015 @ 10:11 am@Steve,
Angelo (34edfd) — 11/7/2015 @ 10:16 amYeah I needed some clarification; I was doubting some past offers to myself 40 yrs ago; I’d really hate to be lying to myself
hillary would kick the teeth out of his lispy fruit loop mouth and then he’d have to get new ones for so he could chew his foozles
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 10:17 amWhatever I can do to help, Angelo.
Steve57 (ccc381) — 11/7/2015 @ 10:18 amnom nom nom Ben Carson would say
these new teefers thure are tharp
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 10:19 amYour hostility sounds personal feets. Did a child relative not survive the neurosurgery Dr Carson performed?
Angelo (34edfd) — 11/7/2015 @ 10:21 amjust so over amateur hour
this is the disease what was unleashed by electing a p.o.s. no account like food stamp
now every p.o.s. failmerican thinks they am a be pezzydent
losers.
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 10:37 amI think that happy doesn’t like SoCons much. Just a guess.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/7/2015 @ 11:03 amI get that he’s a social conservative. I get that he’s a Christian. Neither of those is necessarily bad, but it’s hardly enough…. Since I don’t care all that much about SoCon issues
“Necessarily bad” and “I don’t care all that much…” implies what about you? That you’d prefer the White House fussing over faraway Afghanistan instead of dynamics that affect the typical American on an average, day-in-day-out basis?
Moreover, when folks sputter “it’s the economy stupid!,” they better realize that the social-cultural issues are as intertwined with that as much as anything else, including how Wall Street is or isn’t managed, or how foreign trade is or isn’t managed. I’m including issues along the lines of a socially stable populace, not reeling from the dynamics of city-of-Detroit Syndrome or the two-faced denizens of sanctuary cities, who have no problem creating a mess and then voting with their feet and the moving van.
Kevin M, before I know exactly where you’re coming from — ideologically and tactically — I’d like to hear your take on which Republican you most favor or are most comfortable with.
Mark (f713e4) — 11/7/2015 @ 11:13 amI think that happy doesn’t like SoCons much.
I don’t think he’ll be happy with any candidate running for the presidency unless he or she is an out-and-out homosexual (even a flaming one perhaps?) who loves abortion.
Mark (f713e4) — 11/7/2015 @ 11:15 amsocial conservatives are neither
end of story
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 11:20 amKevin M (25bbee) — 11/7/2015 @ 10:06 am
I am not in favor of Carson being president, because I do not think he has enough broad knowledge and instinct to know who to trust as advisors
that said, I think a lot of people support him because they are just so sick of being lied to and let down by professional politicians and they don’t like Trump, so they want Carson.
So again, just like with Trump, I would not blame Carson for being a flawed candidate, I would blame the political class for being who they are that makes the public so desperate for a change.
I haven’t seen this stat for a long time, but at one point just about everyone who was for Trump had Carson as #2, and those who favored Carson had Trump #2. other than not being politicians and a rep for saying what they wanted to, they are very different.
I think a lot of people who see the Repubs in DC as enabling Obama the last 10 months would rather have anyone, competent or not, honest or not, as long as they didn’t reflexively agree with or enable the Obama agenda.
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 11/7/2015 @ 12:32 pmOf the people who look like they have a chance, the only one I have much confidence in is Cruz. If he gets elected and falls short then I will probably become a political nihilist and influence my little sphere in the world until the fall of the US govt or the Lord’s return, which ever comes first.
I had liked Walker, but it seemed that he failed to understand the Repub consultant class and was undermined by his own before he had a chance. I have liked what I have seen of Jindal, but that hasn’t been much and it looks like he has little chance, unless he can survive until Iowa and somehow makes a showing.
I think Rubio has a lot of what it takes to get elected, but I don’t see him as an answer to what needs to be done in DC.
But my political sense is almost as bad as my knowledge of economics.
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 11/7/2015 @ 12:39 pmWell, In the 70s I received a letter from (then) Senator Lloyd Bentson offering me an appointment to West Point. I consulted with my hero (Dad) as how to reply. I politely rejected the offer because I, like Carson, could not see that path in my future. I then rejected two more offers from Bentson for the Naval and Air force academies. I never associated the term “scholarship” with those institutions, but I can see how that term would be seen as a useful way to communicate the concept, especially if you are engaging in the soft bigotry of “low expectations.”
That was very well said, MD! I believe I will use that myself.
felipe (56556d) — 11/7/2015 @ 1:23 pmironic. I’d be more worried about false messiahs, if I were you guys.
False – as in claiming to be something that you are not.
Leviticus (ef4956) — 11/7/2015 @ 4:06 pmhow about that:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/06/incoming-kentucky-gov-matt-bevin-tells-epa-to-pound-sand/
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/7/2015 @ 4:24 pmLeviticus, I’m glad you showed up. Can you please explain how the brain surgeon is the idiot and the woman who couldn’t figure out Linked In or get her own iced tea and ran the war room against the rape victims her husband had victimized is the smart choice?
Muchisimas gracias.
Steve57
Steve57 (ccc381) — 11/7/2015 @ 4:40 pmi been on the record about these false messiahs for some time now
buncha jokers you ask me
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 4:42 pmP.S. Do you have an audio tape of the doctor giggling about how he helped a rapist get away with his crime?
Because…
Steve57 (ccc381) — 11/7/2015 @ 4:43 pmI think there is a difference between an “error” of details that is true to the main point and complete falsification,
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/7/2015 @ 4:51 pmCarson had a record good enough to get into an academy and was told so apparently by a general…
Good enough for me
http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/08/hillary-clinton-refuses-to-apologize-for-laughing-about-12-year-old-rape-victim-she-maligned-in-court/
But, Ben Carson is the weirdo.
Oh noes!! Heaven forbid we end up with Carson as President!!
Steve57 (ccc381) — 11/7/2015 @ 4:53 pmthe left slobbered over bill clinton, who was a zaftig trojan horse for their purposes, how they reacted to Obama was NC-17.
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/7/2015 @ 4:58 pmwhy are we even talking about weirdo fruit loop ben carson
cause of he went to a “prayer breakfast” and dissed food stamp
i dis food stamp every effing day
but just cause this lispy fruit loop’s a neurotic piece of surgeon trash he should be pezzydent?
something is very very wrong with this process
meanwhile let’s try to think of something gayer than a national prayer breakfast
i’m stumped
the xanadu soundtrack maybe?
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:02 pmwe need the lord’s guidance more then ever, jeremiah, isiah, moses would concur, it is rare when
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:06 pmthe fool is so challenged, the opposition candidates rarely do,
spendy spendy sleazepig paul ryan would love to go to a prayer breakfast but lots of times they’re on a weekend
and spendy spendy sleazepig paul ryan knows what happens when he leaves his wife alone for a weekend
yeah she’s going down
she’s yelling tinder
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:06 pmI support Dr Carson now, but when the time comes I am punching my ticket for R, whoever it is.
I really like Cruz, Rubio, Jindal, Carly, Christie and Trump. Although I think Christie makes a better Trump than Trump. I like the Governors combative nature without being so egotistical as Trump.
When I watch these debates I see a dream team, wishing that everyone of them could hold some high position in the Federal Government.
Perhaps with Dr Carson I think his demeanor and faith would be assets that will overcome whatever else he lacks. At times not knowing what you are doing is the best asset, having to rely on others and your faith in a higher power can be the best asset. And I understand the criticism of those that do not agree with my point of view.
MSL (a8c328) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:32 pmironic. I’d be more worried about false messiahs, if I were you guys.
Leviticus, in light of all the garbage embraced and rallied around by your side of the political aisle for quite awhile now, I think you need to worry about what’s going on in your own ideological house than what’s going on with the neighbors next door.
BTW, I find it worth a guffaw or two at how various documentarians (such as those hired by PBS—and generally solidly of the left) over the past 60 years could happily and (at least in their minds) proudly record the grandeur and wonderfulness of an FDR or JFK, while in today’s era they have bottom-of-the-barrel crud like Billary and Obama — much less bit players like Joe Biden or John Kerry — to contend with and wax poetic about. And, yea, the Republicans have Richard Nixon, but his successors have taken the definition of trash to a whole different level.
What’s sad about all of this is that — partisanship aside — it reflects poorly on the USA in general, although that’s of minor significance to quite a few liberal Americans who love buying into the ethos of “blame America first!”
Mark (f713e4) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:36 pmyou’re so 90s
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:39 pmwell the pattern is spread out among the west, the original faith of christianity, has been hallowed out, in some places like germany, it is verboten to spread the word to the new ‘arrivals’
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:41 pmthere’s no aisle
there’s rulers
there’s ruled
it’s SO easy to embarrass an obamawhore about how they’re nominating hillary
they just kinda sputter about how “trump is terrifying”
then ask them why
what is it that trump wants to do that scares you
they got nothing
then you say
ok here are things that bill clinton’s sleazy whore lying wife wants to do that concern me
next thing you know it’s time to order the entree
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:43 pmdo not doubt, that his publically expressed christian faith, is not a small reason why he is being targeted, the pikachu in the corner is proof of that,
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:43 pmtrump has not distinguished himself in this exercise, which reinforces my reservations, they will come back at him with the ephemera, they have targeted him in the past,
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:46 pmcarlos slim’s companion piece, from this fellow:
https://patterico.com/2015/06/05/new-york-times-writers-alan-rappeport-steve-eder-and-marco-rubios-wife-cited-for-at-least-13-traffic-violations/
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:53 pmyou trashy trashy failmericans
who just elected a p.o.s. food stamp TWICE
keep acting like you deserve some kind of top notch super duper well-oiled ferrari-type president
the whole world is laughing at you
losers.
when’s the last time the failmerican whorestate won a war?
GRENADA?
LOL
suck my trump
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 6:03 pmwhich is not to say a skosh more bushfilth wouldn’t make everything right as rain
there are more things in heaven and earth dr. ben carthon than are dreamt of in my personal philosophy
oh.
btw
are you using your smoking hot wife this weekend or maybe can i borrow her for an event
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 6:07 pmand we go doot
and we go doot doot doot
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 6:08 pm76. MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/7/2015 @ 4:51 pm
I think there is a difference between an “error” of details that is true to the main point and complete falsification,
I agree with that, and Politico really tried to misrepresent things (their own article did not back up their headline!) so it has to be a hit piece.
The implication of everything that Carson wrote is that you didn’t have to apply to get admitted to West Point, and that may be more true, or have been more true, than somebody at Politico is willing to admit. If Felipe could get unsolicited letters from Senator Lloyd Bentsen than why couldn’t Carson have been told that?
It could be that there was a devious purpose in framing the accusation. Politico may be hiding that perhaps Carson had reason to believe he would be accepted, so it accused him of claiming he had applied.
This is the weakest of the four issues with his biographies.
The other three are 1) The attempted stabbing, at age 14, of a friend named Bob 2) The experimental truth test given in a psychology class at Yale called Perceptions 301 that Carson said he was the only person in the class who passed, and as a result of which, his picture got taken by the New York Daily News and 3) The robbery at a Popeyes restaurant in Baltimore in the 1980s where Carson says the robber stuck a gun into his ribs and Carson told him “I believe you want the guy behind the counter.”
The form of the accusation here may actually be a trap – trying to get Carson to admit a Democratic politician wanted to appoint him, and, once Carson volunteers that, it could then be argued that something is wrong, or even corrupt, with that. Carson is unwilling to say now who actually told him he could get into West Point, claiming he can’t remember. It could be that somebody who later on went to jail was involved in this, and/or maybe Carson did some minor volunteer work for some Democrat(s).
Carson had a record good enough to get into an academy and was told so apparently by a general…
Good enough for me
He wasn’t told that by General Westmoreland, and his book gets the date wrong when he could have meet him. It wasn’t Memorial Day – it was in February.
Maybe all that this shows is that a person should be careful when they use a ghostwriter. (if thats what happened)
Sammy Finkelman (3a0a59) — 11/7/2015 @ 6:52 pmhappyfeet sounds just like those the broads from the view.
MSL (a8c328) — 11/7/2015 @ 6:58 pmJoy is that you? By the way, you really suck as a comedian….
Just my observation, us comic types can say those sort of things and all.
the new crew makes beyer seem like what’s her name who jibed calvin coolidge,
we used to extoll men like douglas, carver, washington, now it’s two bit, and kanye, that are celebrated,
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/7/2015 @ 7:01 pmI wonder if anyone informed HF aka Joy that twinkies are not a fruit or vegetable? And maybe 50 servings of twinkies a day are not good for her or Whoopi?
MSL (a8c328) — 11/7/2015 @ 7:22 pmmeanwhile they sleep walk into Eurabia,
http://twitchy.com/2015/11/07/his-portrait-with-jesus-is-ben-carsons-real-scandal-of-the-day/
narciso (ee1f88) — 11/7/2015 @ 7:29 pmMD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/7/2015 @ 5:47 am
He got there from a rough background without affirmative action
I don’t know about that. By 1969, when he got admitted to Yale, affirmative action had already started.
Also, Yale was the only school he applied to. He says that in his books, saying he didn’t even apply to Harvard, and also writing at another point that he still had that scholarship offer from West Point as a result of his R.O.T.C. achievements.
It certainly sounds like the fix was in for him to go to Yale. Maybe (at least he thought) West Point also?
Now Carson says that now some left-wing organization is going to say he can’t read, or that he didn’t go to medical school. Donald Trump has already said (on Twitter) that his biography could be a “total fabrication.” But that’s Donald Trump.
Sammy Finkelman (3a0a59) — 11/7/2015 @ 7:47 pmBen Carson has 4 million plus followers on Facebook and goes on Facebook almost every day answering questions and pledges to continue this even in the White House.
He says he was drafted to run for president, also:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/reading-carson_1055647.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/reading-carson_1055647.html?page=2
I wondr if it was Democrats who organized the draft-Carson campaign.
Sammy Finkelman (3a0a59) — 11/7/2015 @ 8:02 pmi already knew that about twinkies but thanks
happyfeet (831175) — 11/7/2015 @ 8:29 pm