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GOP Debate Catch-Up

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:31 pm

I am slammed at work and only tonight am I getting to watch last night’s debate. (Hey, if you want me as a full-time pundit and you are a multimillionaire with money to burn, call me, babe. Otherwise, work comes first.) I have read almost nothing about it (except what I see here!), so you’re getting my unfiltered views. I am one hour in and so far I have clapped at three moments:

1) Ted Cruz pointing out how biased the questioners are.

2) Ben Carson talking about how bogus PC nonsense is the problem.

3) Ben Carson saying moments later, concerning the moderator’s incredible bias (which prompted booing from the audience): “See? They know.”

Great stuff. Enjoying it so far. Especially enjoying watching some pushback on the total hacks running the debate.

Anyone who thinks it was a mistake letting the leftist hacks moderate the debate is overlooking one key factor: the mileage the candidates get from exposing the moderators as leftist hacks.

Onto hour two! (Thanks, Donald, for saving me an hour of time. I owe you, buddy.)

UPDATE: Bill H. asks where you can watch the debate if you missed it. You can watch it on, is where you can watch it.

49 Responses to “GOP Debate Catch-Up”

  1. Ding!

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. Trump: “I don’t know. You people write this stuff.” Applause #4 from Patterico. (I clapped for Trump! Heh, “nasty and ridiculous questions” to boot. Good stuff.)

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  3. Rubio slams Hillary’s Super-PAC: the media!

    Ted Cruz stands up for sound money and against the Fed!!

    I missed out, huh?! This is good stuff.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  4. OK, I’m 24 hours late.

    Santelli is was hyper, huh?

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  5. Come on! I want to live blog a 24-hour-old debate! WHO’S WITH ME?!?!?!

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  6. Rand Paul slams Ben Bernanke’s arrogance! Boom!

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  7. Rand Paul: Fed behind housing crisis! Boom!!

    This is a lot of yellow comments in a row.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  8. Rar! I’ve been thinking about this debate for the last 24 hours, even in my sleep!

    Yes, I actually thought the very best aspect of Trump’s generally unremarkable performance last night was when he pointed out that the questions weren’t very “nice.”

    In some ways he sometimes reminds me of Dana Carvey as the “Church Lady,” and that was one such. But hey, I loved those skits.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  9. I thought Trump was unusually quiet. Carson I like but am not sure what he will do when asked serious question, which CNBC seems not to know. Rubio looked short, JEB was hopeless. Put him out of his misery ! Why is Huckabee there? Cruz was good. Christie was good. Carly was OK. Kasich needs to go home.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  10. Mike K (#10): Great summary, but you left out Rand Paul. Or was that intentional and an implied evaluation?

    Works for me.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  11. Turn the sound off, and just watch the facial expressions and the body language.

    Trump was not unhappy about his performance at this debate — far from it. Except for Kasich (who attacked him) and Fiorina (who ignored him), everyone else on the stage said something either supportive of Trump or congruent with something he had just said.

    It starts at the very beginning, when Carson declines the first invitation to shoot back at Trump. It continues throughout.

    Everyone acted as if they were taking Trump seriously. And he was basking in that.

    He’s already got a plane nicer than Air Force One.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  12. I just heard Carson describe (to O’Reilly on tonight’s Factor) the turning point of the debate as the moment when the “Cruz Missile” was launched.

    Carson does have a droll and sometimes very sly appreciation for understatement and/or for a single nicely turned sentence. He’s very likable. I don’t think that will actually translate into primary votes if he’s still in the race when we get to that stage, but we’ll see.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  13. Paul is in a weird situation. Kentucky does not have an LBJ rule and is not likely that it will enact one. He cannot run for two offices on the same ballot in Kentucky. So … he can run for re-election to the Senate in Kentucky and for President in the other 49 states; he can give up his re-election to the Senate; or he can give up his run for the Presidency.

    nk (9faaca)

  14. Jonathan Last at Weekly Standard thinks that the GOP field is pretty much down to six candidates: Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Christie, and Fiorina. Sounds about right. In a lot of ways, Walker and Perry did the honorable thing when it became apparent that they had no path to the White House. It’s time for Jindal, Huckabee, Paul, Kaisich, and Bush to do the same and bow out.

    JVW (ba78f9)

  15. Time management. Something I’ve never been able to swing.

    These super rich fellows live and breath it though. Setting priorities. Getting the job done. Taking a bow then moving on to the next.

    That’s something. A salable commodity.
    The difference being between that, and a prima donna filibustering to avoid responsibility for a crisis he caused, wasting everybody’s time on purpose.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  16. 2) Ben Carson talking about how bogus PC nonsense is the problem.

    Now there’s a guy with an amazing, impressive life history, associated with the same racial underpinnings, if you will, as the grotesquerie currently in the White House, but actually a more authentic one since Carson’s early home life apparently really was hardscrabble, devoid of a record of flitting from exotic Indonesia to cushy Hawaii.

    That a not-small percentage of Americans, nonetheless, still perceive the Democrat Party as full of notables who are wise, decent, honest and caring is a case of delusion of immense proportions.

    Mark (f713e4)

  17. JVW – Can’t happen quick enough.

    JD (34f761)

  18. Americans hate liars, cheaters, and bullies. Thanks to Ted Cruz, last night’s debate went a long way to school our presidential candidates that this is a winning issue for us and a transformational issue for our party and the nation. In the last go-round, Newt was little more than a voice calling out in the wilderness. This time, there will be plenty of company.

    MSM journalists, sadly, aren’t the half of it. The bigger problem is that our universities and progressive culture have thoroughly inculcated such sleaziness in not only journalists, but in white collar professionals of all description. I’ve spent much of my career working with the public sector, where the problem of ideologically-driven malfeasance is commonplace. The IRS scandal is by no means an outlier. We’ve recently seen breathtaking displays in academia and in the sciences. Lawyers and jurists provide an unending source of examples. Thanks to the insights provided by James O’Keefe, the medical profession has never seemed more unprincipled. Journalists are, for the moment, the visible tip of a much larger iceberg. Next week, it will be someone else.

    ThOR (a52560)

  19. OK, I’m 24 hours late.

    Patterico (86c8ed) — 10/29/2015 @ 7:40 pm

    Your blog, you can be as late as you like. Hell, the mem over at AoS is Ace goes missing for days at a time, then he shows up with a 3000+/- word movie review.

    I completely missed the debate. Is there a link to a site that has it in entirety?

    Bill H (2a858c)

  20. UPDATE: Bill H. asks where you can watch the debate if you missed it. You can watch it on, is where you can watch it.

    Patterico (86c8ed)


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  23. What, eat a 5# box of sugar or something?? :)

    I was Googling it up as you were responding. Got to the same spot. Thanks for posting it up, Pat.

    Yes- I am entertained. Then again, I’m not Roman.

    Bill H (2a858c)

  24. OMG. Rubio pistol whipped Jeb.

    Bill H (2a858c)

  25. Thank you, Patterico, for that video of the debate. When I was in the US, driving around the country, I was unable to see the debates. I’m currently in Manila, Philippines, and was unable to see this debate live. Your vid link gave me the opportunity to see my first debate this time around. I am a Cruz man and will never vote for Jeb or Trump. Ever. And I have a strong distaste for one or two others but would hold my nose to vote for them.

    That being said, I think every one of the candidates on stage had strong winning points, when going up against the horrid moderators and the horrid Democrat candidates. And if the public doesn’t see this, we are truly lost as a country. If the public doesn’t see the evil that is the Democrat party and these moderators, the Grand Experiment is over. And the Lord has already Damned Perry Hood.

    John Hitchcock (26ae87)

  26. i suppose the upside is the longer jeb stays in the more he damages the already execrable Bushfilth brand

    i still want these bush losers out of my life asap

    I can’t help it

    happyfeet (831175)

  27. What we do in life echoes in eternity.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  28. I think George Bush was a good wartime President, as was his father. What they lacked was conservative domestic policies.

    DRJ (15874d)

  29. I am rewatching the debate. IT seems that some of the applause has been downplayed. I am watching on my computer, as I watching it live. My speakers aren’t the best, but it seems a bit different.

    G (6a553a)

  30. I second the thanks for the debate link – I was unable to watch it live and had heretofore only been able to find 6-8 minute clips, which are a nuisance to assemble together. Finding it all in one place was fantastic :)

    aphrael (0eab62)

  31. Well, I am so very glad you put up the video, Patterico! I will watch it, now.

    felipe (56556d)

  32. Jonathan Last at Weekly Standard thinks that the GOP field is pretty much down to six candidates: Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Christie, and Fiorina.

    I agree, although that might be because I was saying that 3 weeks ago.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  33. Although I thought it would be Bush and not Christie. I don’t know who gets the Fred Thompson Trophy for campaign sloth this year, but it’s between Bush and Walker right now.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  34. What they lacked was conservative domestic policies.

    True that. They both came from the Good Government wing of the party.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  35. Christie’s performance in the last two weeks has impressed me, and I’m starting to understand why he was so enormously popular in New Jersey when he appeared on the scene there.

    aphrael (0eab62)

  36. And if the public doesn’t see this, we are truly lost as a country. If the public doesn’t see the evil that is the Democrat party and these moderators, the Grand Experiment is over.

    Human nature isn’t vastly different — if different at all — throughout the world, which is why I often cite the truly deranged examples of Argentina and Venezuela. In spite of years’ or even generations’ worth of liberal lunacy and resulting failure due to leftist leaders at the helm of those countries, a good portion of each nation’s populace has not responded in a sane manner but instead illustrated the phrase — reportedly coined by Albert Einstein — that “insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

    Moreover, don’t discount those examples as somehow unique to the Americas, to the south Americas in particular. Europe is not terribly different and neither is Mexico, which sits on the US’s doorstep and probably (or definitely) is a window into our future.

    Mark (f713e4)

  37. Yes, but Christie has several problems.

    One, he’s a gun grabber — to the point of not using executive clemency to free travelers who innocently ran afoul of NJ gun laws while crossing the state.

    Two, there is just no getting around his hugging Obama just before the 2012 election, and how that was used by the Dems and the media (birm).

    Three, that bridge thing was crass and it’s hard to believe that it wasn’t Christie behind it.

    But he’s probably a better champion of the center-right than Bush.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  38. “insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

    You mean, like rolling dice?

    Gazzer (3add11)

  39. Einstein was talking about his barber.

    nk (9faaca)

  40. “Yes, but Christie has several problems…”

    4. He’s… FAT!!!
    5. He’s severely addicted to Dunkin’ Donuts

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  41. He’s a regional phenomenon. Brash loudmouths don’t have the same de riguer in the rest of the country as they do at the ends of the Holland Tunnel.

    nk (9faaca)

  42. I loved his line about how even in New Jersey the moderator’s behavior would be considered rude.

    aphrael (0eab62)

  43. Has anyone provided the speaking time for each candidate? Seems like Cruz and Fiorina and paul got gyped.

    felipe (56556d)

  44. Though as it happens Carson did have a contract with that nutritional supplement company:

    DavidWilson (d7dde7)

  45. Thanks for spamming that nonsense, DW

    JD (ebe920)

  46. You can find links to proving almost anything on DU.

    And yet nothing on Hillary’s emails or the IRS audits of the enemies list.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

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