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10/28/2015

Ted Cruz: Let Me Tell You Why The American People Don’t Trust The Media

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:29 pm

[guest post by Dana]


CRUZ: “The questions that have been asked so far in this debate, illustrate why the American people don’t trust the media. This is not a cage match. And if you look at the questions, Donald Trump, are you a comic book villain? Ben Carson, can you do the math? John Kasich, can you insult two people over here? Marco Rubio, why don’t you resign? Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen? How about talking about the substantive issues — “

QUINTANILLA: “Does this count? Do we get credit for this one?”

CRUZ: “And Carl, I’m not finished yet. The contrast with the Democratic debate, where every fawning question from the media was, which of you is more handsome and wise?”

CNBC: “Let me say, you have 30 seconds left to answer should you choose to do so.”

CRUZ: “Let me be clear. The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense, than every participant in the Democratic debate. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Menchavicks. Nobody watching at home believes that any of the moderators have any intention of voting in a Republican primer. The questions being asked shouldn’t be trying to get people to tear into each other, it should be what are your substantive — “

CNBC: “I asked you about the debt limit and got no answer.”

It’s unsurprising that those who are a part of the media that Cruz neatly nailed to the wall are hellbent on denying that any evisceration took place.

–Dana

UPDATE: Last night’s biggest loser, moderator John Harwood’s post-debate observation:

John Harwood

@JohnJHarwood

moderating GOP debate in 2015 enriched my understanding of challenges @SpeakerBoehner has faced and @RepPaulRyan will face
5:34 AM – 29 Oct 2015

99 Responses to “Ted Cruz: Let Me Tell You Why The American People Don’t Trust The Media”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. I thought by now Sen Cruz would have been charged with dodging the question.

    Anyone know how the other candidates were reacting to Sen Cruz as he spoke?

    seeRpea (867001)

  3. They can deny it all they want. There is a growing righteous anger, a sense that what was on display tonight – especially by the likes of the f*ckwit John Harwood – will not be allowed to happen again.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  4. KC won the game and I saw a replay of the Cruz response. One camera was located to Cruz’s left and at the stage level. The other candidates were visible and you could see them nodding and smiling as Cruz unloaded on the sluts who pretended to “moderate” this “debate”. Listening to Fox afterwards, and viewing some of their videos, I was impressed that the group as a whole pretty much stood together against the “media”.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  5. Thanks, Dana
    Cruz/West

    mg (31009b)

  6. tar and feathers
    rope and guillotines
    meet the media
    final truth

    mg (31009b)

  7. I love Ted Cruz, and I want to even express that in boldface—and, no, I don’t mean that in a pro-SSM-rainbow-flag sort of way.

    Mark (f713e4)

  8. Reinventing Priebus is unhappy and yet the RNC agreed to it all:

    “While I was proud of our candidates and the way they handled tonight’s debate, the performance by the CNBC moderators was extremely disappointing and did a disservice to their network, our candidates, and voters. Our diverse field of talented and exceptionally qualified candidates did their best to share ideas for how to reinvigorate the economy and put Americans back to work despite deeply unfortunate questioning from CNBC,” said Chairman Priebus.

    “One of the great things about our party is that we are able to have a dynamic exchange about which solutions will secure a prosperous future, and I will fight to ensure future debates allow for a more robust exchange. CNBC should be ashamed of how this debate was handled.”

    Dana (86e864)

  9. Oh dear! iPad autocorrect on the loose… Should be Reince Priebus.

    Dana (86e864)

  10. Was this Ted Cruz’s “I paid for this microphone” moment?

    Bill M (906260)

  11. Cruz’s point about the media was very good but the way he made it was brilliant.

    Cruz didn’t just point out general media bias or the bias of the CNBC moderators in particular. Cruz gave specific quotes from the questions that were directed to Trump, Bush, Fiorina, Rubio, and Carson that not only showed how biased the moderators were but also appealed to the supporters of these candidates. Many viewers responded positively to Cruz’s comment because his comment pulled in everyone, not just his own supporters, and this helped create the most unified feelings than we’ve seen in this election. I think Cruz’s comment was the catalyst.

    DRJ (15874d)

  12. Thank you Senator Cruz.

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  13. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Menchavicks.

    Bravo.

    Milhouse (8489b1)

  14. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Menchavicks.

    Moderated by reporters from TASS.

    JVW (ba78f9)

  15. Dana: Before I saw your correction, I thought “Reinventing Priebus” was a pretty clever nickname for the guy. Heh.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  16. Cruz had an A+ night, as I’ve asserted in more detail on the debate open thread.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  17. I have a distinct, but entirely unverifiable and subjective, impression that because of Cruz’ own defining characteristics, Cruz’ supporters may, in general, tend to be more loyal and consistent, and less fickle or inclined to flit among candidates, than those who are supporting most of the other candidates.

    I don’t think he’ll lose many of his flock once they’ve been gathered unto him, if I may be permitted that metaphor in a political (rather than religious) discussion: With a few rare exceptions, he’s relentlessly consistent and disciplined in his positions, so he won’t alienate anyone by flip-flopping and he’s unlikely to lose people due to surprise. (What you see with Cruz is what you get; he’s not into re-inventing himself at all.) Nor is he gaffe-prone — as opposed to, on occasion, consciously and deliberately “over the top” (a/k/a doing things to make Leftie heads explode), e.g., the machine-gun bacon video. And as I mentioned in another comment here recently, I’m quite confident he has the fundraising and organizational means to remain in the race through the delegate-rich March 1 primaries.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  18. Re Cruz “doing things to make Leftie heads explode”: That’s actually a pretty long list that goes back to his college days or even before, I gather. But add to the list, from this debate, the “famous Colorado brownie” remark. I have to admit I boggled at that.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  19. @ DRJ (#12), who wrote:

    Many viewers responded positively to Cruz’s comment because his comment pulled in everyone, not just his own supporters, and this helped create the most unified feelings than we’ve seen in this election. I think Cruz’s comment was the catalyst.

    Exactly, and very well put.

    @ bill m (#10): I actually thought this was better than Reagan’s “microphone moment” — but then again, at the time he gave that line, I wasn’t yet much of a Reagan fan (that happened a few months later IIRC during that campaign), so I may not be giving it its due.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  20. bush and kasich are angry that the corporate establishment is abandoning their ego trips as they realize clinton is going to win against these bozo’s and will have to make a deal with the clintons.

    beni (67a4b7)

  21. 9. Oh dear! iPad autocorrect on the loose… Should be Reince Priebus.

    Dana (86e864) — 10/28/2015 @ 9:51 pm

    I thought it was pretty clever the first time.

    After the last series of debates with partisan democratic operatives posing as moderators, what with Stephanopolous advancing the Democrat’s WoW meme and Candy Crowley obviously coordinating with the Obama campaign (Obama: Candy, go to the transcript Crowley (on cue): That’s true governor Romney, he did call it a terrorist attack) I thought the only way Priebus could do worse is if he agreed to have Marx, Lenin, and Mao reincarnated to act as moderators.

    But, no, this was even worse.

    2. I thought by now Sen Cruz would have been charged with dodging the question.

    seeRpea (867001) — 10/28/2015 @ 9:31 pm

    There was not question to dodge. I don’t watch CNBC so I don’t know the name of the particular Democratic party operative, there wasn’t an actual question to dodge. He first delivered an editorial statement about Boehner’s grand bargain that was based entirely on false premises. For all I know his material was written by either the DNC or the Clinton campaign. Then made a snide comment about how Cruz’s opposition to lifting all spending and borrowing limits on Obama by writing him a blank check shows Cruz isn’t the kind of problem solver the American people want in the form of a “Have you stopped beating your wife” question.

    He definitely did not do this.

    CNBC: “I asked you about the debt limit and got no answer.”

    He asked, if you can call it a question, which went roughly “shouldn’t the American people reject you because you’re not the problem solver they want?”

    Steve57 (a0050a)

  22. Perry, you’ve been mixing your meds and alcohol again. You almost OD’d the last time and your psychiatrist was very angry with you. Go sleep it off.

    Steve57 (a0050a)

  23. Know is the time that fox news, the hugh hewtwits, and the usual suspects will continue to ignore Mr. Cruz. If spoken about by these losers, they will point out he never answered the question.
    Roveaholics have a terrible case of stupidity.

    mg (31009b)

  24. candypig was a gamechanger it turns out i think

    good good

    happyfeet (831175)

  25. Update added: Last night’s biggest loser, moderator John Harwood’s post-debate observation:

    John Harwood

    @JohnJHarwood

    moderating GOP debate in 2015 enriched my understanding of challenges @SpeakerBoehner has faced and @RepPaulRyan will face
    5:34 AM – 29 Oct 2015

    Dana (86e864)

  26. Them uppity Rethuglicans don’t know not to sass their betters.

    nk (dbc370)

  27. bill maher had Bernie Sanders on his show last night. They spent about twenty minutes talking about how unpopular socialists are to likely voters (the snippet I watched).

    The interesting part of that is in the promotion Sanders isn’t mentioned.

    They have to sneak a Democrat candidate on the show to get people to watch him by accident.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  28. File that u der “you can lead a horse to water…”, Dana.

    If the GOP wanted to make a smart play, they should schedule their own debate, using their own mods and put it out there to the highest bidder… Fox News, CBS, ABC, CNN can bid to have their cameras there to cover the event and sell commercial air time. Enough of this WWF charade…

    Colonel Haiku (436b69)

  29. Harwood’s tweet was time-stamped 5:34 AM. I see him as a self-absorbed person who would stay up all night reading the debate reviews and plotting how to respond to their virtually universal criticism of him. Apparently distraction was the only response he could come up with.

    DRJ (15874d)

  30. Harwood did something extraordinary. He lied about Rubio’s tax plan in the exact same way not once but twice — once at the debate and once about two weeks before the debate. What made it extraordinary was that Harwood had apologized for that same lie the first time on Twitter on October 14 and then lied again Wednesday night as if he didn’t remember his own apology and correction.”

    I wonder if Harwood has a secretary who comes in after the fact to clean up his internet drool?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  31. re: Harwood’s tweet:

    Yeah, fancy that. Turns out some of the members of what’s supposed to be the opposition party don’t like it when their “leadership” preemptively surrenders everything to King Putt. [insert “YOU DON’T SAY!” meme image here]

    PCachu (5376c0)

  32. I said that the moderators wouldn’t get it. They can’t even see the cocoon they live in.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  33. Kevin, does a fish notice water?

    Steve57 (a0050a)

  34. The biggest loser was not Harwood, it was that moderator in the middle.
    Hate makes people irrational–and if she hates Republicans so much she should not have been there. She has a weird thing she was doing with her eyes where she really couldn’t even look at the candidate while she was addressing them, her gaze was slightly lowered.

    Oh–who am I kidding, the Liberals loved her–if they were watching, and Hillary will probably hire her as her press secretary.

    Danube River Guide (76b104)

  35. I tried to watch online, but stupid CNBC kept asking me to sign in woth my local cable provider: i get broadband from Time Warner, but that doesn’t cut it, apparently!

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  36. If the GOP wanted to make a smart play, they should schedule their own debate, using their own mods and put it out there to the highest bidder… Fox News, CBS, ABC, CNN can bid to have their cameras there to cover the event and sell commercial air time. Enough of this WWF charade…

    Yes, perhaps. But they run the risk of getting total suckups to ask the questions. And that would be the story the next day, even though suckups run most Dem debates.

    You would want moderators from wildly different GOP wings so that you fully explored the candidate’s differences. Not sure you want reporters, either (and it’s not like you have a lot to pick from). Perhaps party elders? Something like Cheney, Armey and Huckabee(were he not running).

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  37. Regarding the media not noticing it lives in a bubble, I really wish I could find the video of this. Diane Sawyer discussed this on a morning show, I think it was when she was doing her valedictory lap upon her retirement. The look on her face was priceless. But this is all that my search turned up.

    I am so glad this happened to her so that she can see how the public views her profession:

    Diane Sawyer: “You know, I wanted to sit on a jury once and I was taken off the jury. And the judge said to me, ‘Can, you know, can you tell the truth and be fair?’ And I said, ‘That’s what journalists do.’ And everybody in the courtroom laughed. It was the most hurtful moment I think I’ve ever had.”

    Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/reformedchicksblabbing/2007/07/diane-sawyer-is-laughed-at-whe.html#ifXCvHc5CjzjK1Dr.99

    This happened to her in NYC, mind you.

    Steve57 (a0050a)

  38. How about the damn electorate –I’m sick of the media filtering, and choosing.

    Hell even Megyn Kelly spent something like six out of her ten questions–on abortion. Soup to nuts she is pro-abortion, and could even be a Democrat.

    Danube River Guide (76b104)

  39. A couple of times the questions sounded like they sourced their “facts” on DU and Kos. Particularly that attempted ambush to Fiorina about Tom Perkins’ nuttier statements (which Fiorina turned into a winning laugh line).

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  40. Ha!

    Steve57

    That made my day–I’m off.

    Danube River Guide (76b104)

  41. Oops one more comment–

    Oh ya, Carly was brilliant with that response, and how she went back to the “moderator’s” original attack–“now you know why I had trouble with Perkins in the boardroom!”

    Ugh—that brings up another point–suddenly because Carly said that Perkins had endorsed her–Carly owned everything wrong with Perkins –according to Liberal media rules.

    I remember when a few of us from the military community were aghast at the fact that Obama chose to fundraise and start his career with strong support of Bill Ayers, and all the kool kid Republican bloggers inferred that we were racists–and doing guilt by association. You couldn’t even say that Obama showed a lack of good long term judgment, they would shut you down.

    Danube River Guide (76b104)

  42. You couldn’t even say that Obama showed a lack of good long term judgment, they would shut you down.

    FIFY

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  43. Why isn’t Cruz leading in the polls? Because this country is sick.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  44. That was an extraordinary debate. Our guys (and gal) all seemed to rise to the occasion, Cruz especially. It set precisely the right tone for the race and cast the opposition as cartoonish thugs. What more could you ask from a debate? Last night, Republican voters won and won bit. We should be thanking Rancid Priebus (oops, there goes autocorrect again!).

    And let’s give Chris Christie his due for the best line of the night: “Even in New Jersey what you’re doing is called rude.”

    ThOR (a52560)

  45. mister john harwood
    you clueless simpleton you
    floats on down de Nile

    Colonel Haiku (436b69)

  46. Colonel, are you suggesting that harwood is a gaseous scat?

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  47. When you speak of this group as all republicans, assessing their votes, I must assume their is one conservative republican.

    mg (31009b)

  48. Thor,
    A commenter over at Ace calls him Rancid Penis. That’s a keeper, I think.

    Gazzer (3add11)

  49. Why isn’t Cruz leading in the polls? Because this country is sick.

    No, I am not a big fan although I am warming to him but we have had a bad experience with a one term Senator.

    I prefer governors but Walker was my first choice and he did not do well. Kasich is a squish and Christie is far too lefty although he had a good night last night. If Christie would come out for repeal of New Jersey’s lunatic gun laws, he would go way up in my opinion.

    Carly is probably my favorite right now.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  50. Mike K,

    I appreciate your point, but I’m sure we agree that there are first term Senators and then there is Barack Hussein Obama.
    I would attribute his performance to many things,
    being a first term senator is down among the “what difference, at this point, does it mean anyway” explanations…

    being in Cali you have more awareness of Fiorina. I am still furrowing my eyebrows and saying, “Who?”

    I don’t care what people say anymore, unless it is in an extemporaneous moment revealing what “they really think”. At least Cruz stood up and fought in the senate for what he said he would fight for,
    and that is a whole lot better than most,
    except maybe for walker, but that didn’t work out so good.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  51. I don’t think any candidate can save our country from the mess we’re in, but I think the American people can save us if we start making better decisions. One good deision would be to elect someone like Ted Cruz, who understands the Constitution better than any candidate and most scholars and who will not waver when the going gets tough. He has the knowledge and commitment that is as close to the Founders as anyone I’ve seen.

    DRJ (15874d)

  52. At Powerline they speculate that Trump didn’t participate in confronting the CNBC’ers because he may have become gun shy. Another possible explanation is Trump’s extensive association with NBC, even though they canceled his show.

    Gerald A (5dca03)

  53. Even if Cruz wins if he does not spend significant time destroying (yes) the money machine funding liberalism — he will have failed.

    You need to destroy the NGOs by removing federal money.

    Destroy the Liberal Judiciary by retiring them and replacing them with the most lunatics right wingers possible.

    Remove the Top Level Bureaucrats who support big Govt. Investigate every PC and every Message they have ever made and even on slip up press for removal from the job plus try to take away the pension.

    Stop funding Liberal non-profits and NGO. Channel 13, PP, etc….

    Attacking economically the media. Pull licenses, etc from Disney, NBC, CBS. Make cost of business much much higher for the NYT, Wapo, etc.

    And when possible, find criminals charges against their leadership. Oops, tax off by $10,000. File charges first and ask questions later. Hey Apple? Tax aversion, sick the AG on them.

    … which is to say, do exactly what they have done to Conservatives. Only difference is removing Govt support of Leftists means they have no money to fund their mischief whereas Conservatives regardless can survive.

    But all of this must occur very very quietly such that when the Lobster realizes what is going on, it is already cooked.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  54. I see, now, that Christie is strongly pro-life, where I had thought him to be a squishy pro-choicer before. That makes a big difference to me. New Jersey gun laws, not so much. Maybe New Jerseyans are not to be trusted with guns and he knows his own people best. 😉

    -What do you call the bad part of Italy?
    -The spaghetto?
    -New Jersey!

    With Walker gone, Cruz is starting to grow on me.

    nk (9faaca)

  55. “Attacking economically the media. Pull licenses, etc from Disney, NBC, CBS. Make cost of business much much higher for the NYT, Wapo, etc.”

    – Rodney King’s Spirit

    Nice! Maybe institute some kind of prior restraint for liberal media outlets – like, have a cabinet official whose job is to figure out which things the media can report on? Or which side they can report; make them be more conservative. Freedom of speech isn’t free, NYT.

    Leviticus (f9a067)

  56. Beldar,

    Considering his name IS Cruz…

    “I don’t think he’ll lose many of his flock once they’ve been gathered unto him, if I may be permitted that metaphor in a political (rather than religious) discussion”

    I would just take your metaphor as very nice punning on his name. :)

    Dan S (94f399)

  57. poor Jeb is in denial it’s so hard to watch

    it’s sad cause of there’s lots of cool stuff he could be doing

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  58. Freedom of the press isn’t free, either. Lets put licensing fees on an ideological sliding scale.

    Leviticus (f9a067)

  59. I’m thinking Jeb’s ill considered attack on Marco Rubio, bringing up his missed votes in the Senate, maybe was well considered, and coordinated. They are both business as usual republicans, who don’t see a crisis on the border, who don’t see a crisis with the national debt going cosmic.

    Jeb knows he’s not going much further, so he props up his own with a planned attack, making Rubio look quick on his feet.

    It’s not just the media I don’t trust.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  60. Jeb knows he’s not going much further, so he props up his own with a planned attack, making Rubio look quick on his feet.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 10/29/2015 @ 1:24 pm

    That’s quite a conspiracy theory.

    Gerald A (5dca03)

  61. But I like where Rodney King’s Spirit is going with this, though his solutions may not be perfect. I’ve thought that if closing down big government bureaucracies proves politically impossible, how about disbursing their headquarters to flyover country. Department of Education in Tulsa; Department of Housing and Urban Development to Topeka; Environmental Protection Agency to Bakersfield. Let’s make DC a ghost town.

    ThOR (a52560)

  62. have a cabinet official whose job is to figure out which things the media can report on?
    Leviticus (f9a067) — 10/29/2015 @ 1:22 pm

    Come on now, Leviticus, haven’t you been paying attention???
    Cabinet officials need Senate confirmation,
    Czars don’t,
    neither do Emperors.
    Emperor of public education and information
    history is what the winners write about it

    But yes, put that guy who resigned from Holder’s DOJ over the new black panther thing in charge of the DOJ,
    clean house
    that’s to start
    require any officer higher than a colonel in any of the military branches to have had to duck bullets at some point,
    sign up retirees if one needs to

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  63. Walker in charge of Labor, roll the cameras…

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  64. But even more seriously,

    Jeremiah knew what was what and watched a nation ignore him until it was way past too late.

    Praise to Rubio for this:
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/10/rubio-explains-hillarys-lie.php
    which also clearly demonstrates what Cruz was saying about the media

    I found this interesting, and off my very limited radar:
    http://www.city-journal.org/2015/25_4_city-journal.html

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  65. Maybe so Gerald. Bush has been hitting Marco on missing votes in the Senate since April. Since Rubio announced his candidacy really. Since before Rubio could have missed enough votes to make it worth mentioning, in fact.

    Just a stray thought.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  66. Jeb Bush should have known since 1998 or so, when it first started looking very likely that Dubya would run in 2000, that any realistic shot at him (Jeb) ever becoming President was vanishing — regardless of Jeb Bush’s merits or fitness for the job — simply because of his surname.

    Electing a recent president’s son was a stretch, but there was precedent for it. But not for then electing the son’s brother.

    So I believe his judgment and self-evaluation has always been tragically, fatally flawed from the moment he started making noises about running. Dubya & Poppy, by most reports, have nevertheless rallied to him and encouraged him, even though Barbara apparently always shared my view, and said as much. But he’s taken his best shot, and he’s going to leave the race a lesser-respected public figure, even in Florida, than he was when he entered it. Every week he continues now is only going to add tarnish, not luster.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  67. As spectacularly bad debate performances go, Jeb didn’t quite out-do Dan Quayle (who was no Jack Kennedy), Rick Perry (list of three), or Gerald Ford (the people of Poland aren’t under Soviet subjugation). But those are the only three I can think of, off the top of my head, that were obviously worse.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  68. His plan to go after fantasy football was gripping.

    JD (34f761)

  69. Please, please let Jeb stay in and complicate the establishment side of the race.

    DRJ (15874d)

  70. Alternatively, please let Carson get out. But I don’t think that will happen until after Iowa so I want Jeb to stay in.

    DRJ (15874d)

  71. Isn’t it sad that we have to wait for a Republican Presidential debate to get the headline on breaking news like Planned Parenthood selling baby parts, Hillary Clinton lied to save Obama candidacy and Barack Obama invalidates 1st Amendment to jail innocent film maker.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  72. Nothing could be worse than candy crawley owning mittens.

    mg (31009b)

  73. Is Priebus the best the republicans can do? For crying out loud, Trump would be much better than him.

    mg (31009b)

  74. CoC needs to be torn apart as much as the mfm.

    mg (31009b)

  75. I’ve thought well of Trump. But he appeared a bit confused between H1B visas and foreign exchange students (like Barry Soetero!) or totally backtracking on his signature issue. We have enough computer science and medical tech people graduating US colleges,we don’t need our kids competing with the rest of the world in their own country. The foreigners are no better nor more qualified, merely more willing to work for less, nothing else .

    At a loss how the MFM can demonize the GOP candidates across the board for past minor associations when they made the point of refusing to look into anything about Obama(Soetero?) .It is fair to ask Fiorina or Trump about their past business failures(personally Trump’s numerous business means some were going to fail simply because that’s how realty work,s Fiorina’s failures give me great pause, but I digress)Further the complete tank job and Hillary! in now beyond parody. Upshot is doubt we will see any more Dem debates at all.

    Bugg (fa64ec)

  76. Bernie Sanders deferring any further criticism of Hillary Clinton’s entire career in office – because…

    Because she is a girl? What excuse did he come up with?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  77. carson’s a lispy fruit loop what’s gonna finally relieve iowa of the burden of its ridiculous spot on the calendar

    happyfeet (831175)

  78. 67. I think Jeb Bush couldhave done very well – if he was a better candidate. And he’s not a good candidate. He still has time to recover. I don’t think the fact that he is the brother and the son of a president doomed him. That’s not why he can’t make any headway.

    Sammy Finkelman (3a0a59)

  79. @ DRJ (#12 again): I’ve been thinking all day about your comment:

    Many viewers responded positively to Cruz’s comment because his comment pulled in everyone, not just his own supporters, and this helped create the most unified feelings than we’ve seen in this election. I think Cruz’s comment was the catalyst.

    And all day long, on both TV news and internet news, they keep replaying this clip from Cruz.

    And wickedly corrupt Democratic-Operatives-With-Bylines though they be, incompetent sound engineers they may have, ridiculously pompous and condescending and unprepared bozos they might appear, CNBC did have one decent director in the control booth, because:

    As Cruz was naming the names of the other candidates and giving his (only slightly enhanced, for parody’s sake) version of the questions they’d been asked, CNBC cut to a camera long shot which showed the entire line-up, with Cruz pointing to each of them and — arms outstretched, with great drama — sweeping them all into his embrace. He rallied them, as an officer on the battlefields of the Crimea or the American Civil War or WW1 might have rallied his troops, to follow him over the ramparts: Half a league, half a league onward! ‘Forward, the Light Brigade!’ Was there a man dismay’d?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  80. I think the republican party needs a kinder gentler machine gun hand. cruz comes across as to much of a nazi. Rubio is much more like dubya.

    beni (ebc749)

  81. How original, perry. You need an angry, rough, whole bean coffee enema.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  82. Mr. Cruz is easy listening, thanks narciso.
    Next time he is in Cow Hampshire, i will cruise north for a listen.

    mg (31009b)

  83. coarse grind- green beans, Col.

    mg (31009b)

  84. Why isn’t Cruz leading in the polls? Because this country is sick.

    Sick as in tilting too far to the left, for sure. If the US catches the illness afflicting countries like Argentina, which had it own presidential election a few days ago, we’re sunk.

    Beyond that, I’m not sure how much of Cruz’s lack of so-called charisma is due to the most superficial aspect of the guy, namely his aquiline-nose face, which gives him the looks of a crabby uncle. But he’s easily my first choice for a Republican candidate. However, for purely tactical reasons, I pull back from that stance because I’m worried that the combination of the mental illness of liberalism affecting too many Americans combined with all the people out there who do judge a book by its cover, means Cruz won’t gain enough traction as November 2016 rolls into the picture. And this country cannot afford more out-and-out liberalism, more flat-out loony liberals along the lines of Hillary, Bernie, etc.

    Mark (f713e4)

  85. @ Mark (#85): Cruz looks very much like a 1940s Hollywood leading man, actually — a Gregory Peck or a Clarke Gable, not a Matt Damon at all. Totally throwback.

    Bug? Or — properly viewed and exploited — potential feature?

    Regarding an out-of-date style of handsomeness: Does that remind you of anyone from 1980s politics, who took some time to persuade some people that he was the real deal? Someone who, when he showed up without a topcoat at Reykjavik to greet Gorby in 1986, impressed the holy heck out of everyone in Russia and its empire precisely because he looked like a 1940s leading man?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  86. No, I am not a big fan although I am warming to him but we have had a bad experience with a one term Senator.

    I prefer governors but Walker was my first choice and he did not do well. Kasich is a squish and Christie is far too lefty although he had a good night last night. If Christie would come out for repeal of New Jersey’s lunatic gun laws, he would go way up in my opinion.

    Carly is probably my favorite right now.

    Mike K (90dfdc) — 10/29/2015 @ 10:46 am

    Yah, OK. But Cruz is not just a one-term senator. Compare and contrast, Mike: Obama pretends to be a Constitutional scholar. Cruz practiced it in front of the Supreme Court every day and won more than he lost. Obama was also a community organizer, whatever the hell that’s supposed to be. Cruz was the Attorney General of Texas for a while there. Obama managed to be elected because he “knew people” like Bill Ayers, and managed to leak the sealed divorce records of his opponent. All the screaming and crying the left has done about Cruz, and they still can’t pin a scandal on him, for good reason.
    Obama was supposed to be the second coming of Reagan in terms of his oratory skill. We all know how that’s worked out. Cruz can think on his feet and articulate an idea, and has little to no need for notes or, tellingly, a TelePrompTer.

    I’m not worried about Cruz being a one term senator.

    Bill H (2a858c)

  87. Jeb Bush should have known since 1998 or so, when it first started looking very likely that Dubya would run in 2000, that any realistic shot at him (Jeb) ever becoming President was vanishing — regardless of Jeb Bush’s merits or fitness for the job — simply because of his surname.

    Electing a recent president’s son was a stretch, but there was precedent for it. But not for then electing the son’s brother.

    I have to admit this is exactly how I’ve been looking at Bush #3. Not only do I not want a dynasty in the White House, but as much as I admire Dubya for the man he is, I don’t want a Dubya Part Deux. His Presidency was not that good. I’ve got zero reason to believe Jeb! will be any better.

    Bill H (2a858c)

  88. Gotta say Perry has a point with the Hitler reference, because there is a party that is doing the same thing Hitler did: attempting to isolate the Jewish people to their deaths. It just so happens it’s the same party that was doing it in the 1940s. The Democrat party.

    John Hitchcock (26ae87)

  89. Beldar 80,

    I agree Cruz is a leader. Isn’t it ironic that he united the candidates, their supporters and the Party in the sane debate where he was asked how someone so divisive could expect to lead as President?

    Liberal politics have become so divisive that they don’t even know a leader when they see one.

    DRJ (15874d)

  90. Sorry. That comment was for Beldar 87, not 80.

    DRJ (15874d)

  91. Duh. It was Beldar 80. I got up too early.

    DRJ (15874d)

  92. You’ve earned the right to retract your retraction, DRJ. We old-timers here are very much indebted to you with your years of integrity and valuable articles.

    John Hitchcock (26ae87)

  93. I just received this from GOP.com:

    Mr. Andrew Lack
    Chairman, NBC News
    30 Rockefeller Plaza
    New York, New York 10112

    Dear Mr. Lack,

    I write to inform you that pending further discussion between the Republican National Committee (RNC) and our presidential campaigns, we are suspending the partnership with NBC News for the Republican primary debate at the University of Houston on February 26, 2016. The RNC’s sole role in the primary debate process is to ensure that our candidates are given a full and fair opportunity to lay out their vision for America’s future. We simply cannot continue with NBC without full consultation with our campaigns.

    The CNBC network is one of your media properties, and its handling of the debate was conducted in bad faith. We understand that NBC does not exercise full editorial control over CNBC’s journalistic approach. However, the network is an arm of your organization, and we need to ensure there is not a repeat performance.

    CNBC billed the debate as one that would focus on “the key issues that matter to all voters—job growth, taxes, technology, retirement and the health of our national economy.” That was not the case. Before the debate, the candidates were promised an opening question on economic or financial matters. That was not the case. Candidates were promised that speaking time would be carefully monitored to ensure fairness. That was not the case. Questions were inaccurate or downright offensive. The first question directed to one of our candidates asked if he was running a comic book version of a presidential campaign, hardly in the spirit of how the debate was billed.

    While debates are meant to include tough questions and contrast candidates’ visions and policies for the future of America, CNBC’s moderators engaged in a series of “gotcha” questions, petty and mean-spirited in tone, and designed to embarrass our candidates. What took place Wednesday night was not an attempt to give the American people a greater understanding of our candidates’ policies and ideas.

    I have tremendous respect for the First Amendment and freedom of the press. However, I also expect the media to host a substantive debate on consequential issues important to Americans. CNBC did not.

    While we are suspending our partnership with NBC News and its properties, we still fully intend to have a debate on that day, and will ensure that National Review remains part of it.

    I will be working with our candidates to discuss how to move forward and will be in touch.

    Sincerely,

    Reince Priebus
    Chairman, Republican National Committee

    Seems they are getting the message.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  94. Beldar, at 68: Adm. Stockdale (“Who am I? Why am I here?”) definitely did worse than Gov Bush did this week.

    aphrael (0eab62)

  95. It just so happens it’s the same party that was doing it in the 1940s. The Democrat party.

    And few if any historians, much less typical educators (in public schools and certainly in just about all universities), mention that one of the father figures of that party, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, was shockingly anti-Jewish — a garden-variety bigot — originally supporting quotas against Jews in government and public institutions, and even claimed that Jews themselves were responsible for the wrath of Hitler.

    Mark (f713e4)

  96. Bug? Or — properly viewed and exploited — potential feature?

    I’m mainly concerned — and pissed — that so many Americans have become so idiotically soft towards liberalism, that every minor aspect of someone like Cruz will be picked apart. He is easily among the best of the candidates, but his rightism will be scrutinized with a microscope due to, again, the foolish belief shared by a not-small percentage of the public that non-liberalism isn’t generous, humane and loving enough. Or a stereotype bought into by all the dummies out there too blind to notice that the epitome of liberalism — the city of Detroit, etc — is hardly a paragon of generosity, humaneness and love.

    Mark (f713e4)

  97. The truth in pictures:

    http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Moderators-600-LI.jpg

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)


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