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10/28/2015

Paul Ryan Will Support Autocratic Budget Deal With Its Spending Increases

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:38 am

More spending for all? Hey, supporting that is all about being a team player!

After sharply criticizing how it came together, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan announced he would support the budget deal Wednesday.

“What I’ve heard from members over the last two weeks is a desire to wipe the slate clean, put in place a process that builds trust, and start focusing on big ideas,” Ryan said in a statement. “What has been produced will go a long way toward relieving the uncertainty hanging over us, and that’s why I intend to support it. It’s time for us to turn the page on the last few years and get to work on a bold agenda that we can take to the American people.”

Look for more of this “bold agenda” of business as usual going forward.

UPDATE: The New York Times says the budget deal is a win for Obama, since the tiny sequestration caps are history:

The deal is the policy equivalent of keeping the lights on — hardly the stuff of a bold fiscal legacy. But it achieves the main objective of his 2016 budget: to break free of the spending shackles he agreed to when he signed the Budget Control Act of 2011, an outcome, the president allowed Tuesday, that he could be “pretty happy” about. . . . The result was a deal that would raise spending $80 billion, or about 1 percent, over the next two years while enacting an array of cuts that Democrats found palatable.

. . . .

“This shouldn’t be mistaken for some overarching grand bargain, but there’s a lot in here the White House likes and not much they don’t,” said Jared Bernstein, a former economic adviser to Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and now a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities in Washington. “Most importantly, if the deal prevails, they won’t have to deal with budget nonsense for the rest of the term, which has got to look pretty sweet.”

I think our new Speaker should definitely be on board for something the Democrats think is “pretty sweet.” As long as Barack Obama is “pretty happy” then what more can we ask for?

75 Responses to “Paul Ryan Will Support Autocratic Budget Deal With Its Spending Increases”

  1. being a whore and a loser is not mutually exclusive – you can be both

    you can be Paul Ryan

    happyfeet (831175)

  2. An object lesson of what is wrong with Washington.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  3. It is time to go third party.

    AZ Bob (34bb80)

  4. I was afraid of this when I saw Ryan denounce the process but not the deal. The Freedom Caucus has complained about the process — the failure to follow regular order — and I think Ryan was trying to appeal to them by criticizing the process used to raise the debt ceiling. It seems he was trying to placate/dupe the Freedom Caucus.

    I wonder if he was too convincing and had to reassure the establishment Republicans that he is still their guy.

    DRJ (15874d)

  5. When the chips are down over $19 trillion, we can always count on Speaker Paul Ryan to take the expedient lazy path of more big government borrow and spend fiscal stupidity.

    Bugg (fa64ec)

  6. “Most importantly, if the deal prevails, they won’t have to deal with budget nonsense for the rest of the term, which has got to look pretty sweet.”

    Budget nonsense? Third party, my foot. It’s time to go pitchforks, ropes and guillotines.

    nk (dbc370)

  7. As performer Senator Tom Corburn; why do we have non essential federal employees in the first place?

    Bugg (fa64ec)

  8. Ryan is very smart but the establishment GOP needs the Freedom Caucus and will do anything to keep them on board, except actually compromise with them. The Freedom Caucus was right to give Ryan a chance to work with them, but now he’s had that chance and refused to do it. To me, this proves he wants their support but won’t work with them.

    If he continues this pattern as Speaker, he should have to use Democrat votes the way Boehner did. At least then everyone will know the establishment GOP are really Democrats.

    DRJ (15874d)

  9. It is time to name the third party:

    Pitchforks, Ropes and Guillotines

    AZ Bob (34bb80)

  10. The first battle may be the rejuvenated Ex-Im Bank.

    DRJ (15874d)

  11. let it burn…

    Trump 2016

    redc1c4 (e4c086)

  12. Meet the new Speaker, same as the old Speaker. Wow! What a surprise. Say, conservatives, can you look the other way for a few seconds – it makes it easier to stab you in the back. Oh, and remember to vote GOP in the next election, as if you gullible idiots and dedicated punching bags had a choice.

    ropelight (3f0535)

  13. #12: we do have a choice…

    personally, i’m done with voting for the lesser of two evils, which is why i voted for BOTH Moonbeam & CashAndCarry last fall here in #Failifornia. if i had left it blank, someone would have undoubtedly “fixed” my “error” for me. by voting for both, i essentially voted for “none of the above”.

    our alleged leader5hit here in Lost Angels is starting to panic about low voter turnout here. i guess it finally dawned on them that a “government” that is based on 15-25% voter turn out really doesn’t have much claim to legitimacy, as they are now pushing for on-line voting in the hopes of getting a bigger turn out.

    i’d also rather see (Idiot-Vt.) as POTUS than Cankles. he’s a moron, she’s evil. besides, the Free 5hit Army should get what they want, for once, and they deserve to get it good and hard. that the alleged parents who raised these ignorant idiots will suffer along with them is just icing on the cake.

    which reminds me: i need to change my party affiliation before the primary next year… except that would mean i cauldn’t vote for Trump in the GOP primary.

    decisions, decisions…

    redc1c4 (e4c086)

  14. Lame duck Speaker and lame lame duck Prezzy get a 2 year gift that keeps conservatives from trying to make any substantive changes. No thanks.

    JD (34f761)

  15. it’s unconscionable

    happyfeet (831175)

  16. i love that they’re impeaching that sleazy irs hole

    i hope they impeach him savagely and without mercy or antibiotic ointment

    happyfeet (831175)

  17. let it burn…

    redc1c4 (e4c086)

  18. Some of this has to be laid at the feet of the millions of Americans who, based on opinion polls (and who represent a fairly sizable majority if the polling data can be taken at face value), have been resentful of Republicans — and been, by contrast, touchy feely towards Democrats — whenever they’ve tried to enforce budget discipline and caused a sequestration in the process.

    Look around you and ponder the ideology of members of your family, friends, neighbors, colleagues, co-workers and acquaintances, and when you know such people are either devoutly liberal or squish-squish squishy, you will see why crud like Obama has such tactical leeway.

    I recall Barry Goldwater, before he hit his “senior moment” period, claiming that most people in the US are naturally conservative, yet he became squishy, if not rather liberal, in the years before his death.


    The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves.

    Mark (f713e4)

  19. Keep those printing presses humming!

    The GOP needs to decide: Either we are on the way to national bankruptcy or everything is A-OK.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  20. Anybody who did not vote for Romney, this is ALL your fault. Romney might not have been the best possible president, but that is never on the table and never will be. But we would have stopped digging 3 years ago and and lest be on our way out of the hole.

    Instead, we have to negotiate with this asshole president who is buy backhoes by the dozen. And you guys are now shooting at your own rear guard.

    Stop shining and go out and organize for 2016.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  21. lest at least

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  22. God I WANT an editing function. Clearly I cannot type worth spit.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  23. I’m just going to throw this out there.

    Does it matter if we get a Republican President or Congress?

    The deep state, I would argue, ensures that it doesn’t. Only the top levels change, if the career civil servants don’t like the new direction they drag their feet and leak to the press and keep it from going forward.

    The Supreme Court might be something, except for the tendency of justices to “grow” in office and the fact that if the lower courts are determined enough they’ll keep ruling until the Supreme Court sees it their way (Ninth Circuit); not to mention that the executive branch will just decline to defend anything their people don’t agree with.

    And we’ve seen how principled Congress is.

    So–why not vote third party? Throw the Republicans out (at the Federal level). They’re not providing meaningful opposition. They are an entrenched political class with interests contrary to those of their constituents.

    Seriously. Throw them out. They will not learn any other way.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  24. @Mark: he became squishy, if not rather liberal, in the years before his death.

    I don’t think he did. What happened is that the press lost interest in distorting his views. He was always, for example, a supporter of Planned Parenthood.

    But it’s like how McCain and Romney were, according to the media, “moderates” before they got nominated, and after they got nominated they were painted as right-wing crazies. And now that the election is over they are wise elder statesmen that today’s conservatives are too crazy to support. Much like what has happened with Reagan.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  25. First problem was the vekakte moderators in the debate, which did much of Romney’s work in the primaries, then you have the coordinated attack by the irs, justice, osha against conservative activist, then you finish with out cigar store Indian nominee.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  26. After the Ex-Im vote and now the Boehner budget, can’t you hear the voice in your head whispering “They deserve Trump!”? Mine isn’t whispering any more.

    I’m eager to see who steps up on these issues tonight. Paul is already speaking up and he desperately needs a breakout moment. This may be it. I’m expecting good things from Cruz and Fiorina, too, but I’m not certain who else.

    ThOR (a52560)

  27. Waiting for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow to appear after I read Beldar’s post.

    mg (31009b)

  28. I voted for mittens – many times – never again.
    Roveaholics need a 12 stepper.

    mg (31009b)

  29. thank god

    he’s a whorish pooper anyways

    we don’t need no whorish pooper to do the speakings on the house

    this is obvious to anyone who is willing to do the analysis

    happyfeet (831175)

  30. oh well, another squish. what a load of hogwash.
    How can you make the bold moves if you are not willing to make the needed moves?
    No way the Dems don’t vote him in for Speaker.

    seeRpea (867001)

  31. All this hue and cry over democracy in action as a responsible exercise of government is transparent horsesh!t. There is no obligation whatever conferred by the selection of representatives based on sworn representations of intent.

    The Republic is dead, anyone maintaining otherwise is an imbecile.

    DNF (45ef00)

  32. Ad nauseum:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-29/and-biggest-contributor-q3-gdp-was

    I.e., double counting, the dismal 1.5% figure is a flat out lie, we’ve been contracting the whole of 2015.

    1933 all.over.again.

    DNF (45ef00)

  33. I saw a headline that said Ryan “won the election” with his 200 votes.
    Sometimes (maybe most of the time…all of the time?) it seems the truth in what we are told is vanishingly small.

    But you can’t get enough people to realize it.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (4a071b)

  34. Congratulations to Paul Ryan who was elected Speaker of the House this morning.

    DRJ (15874d)

  35. There is a certain irony in seeing Cruz do well at the debate last night, just as Boehner leaving DC to return to Ohio today. Boehner has never hidden his negative feelings toward Cruz. It must rank le a little to see Cruz outlasted and/or bested him.

    DRJ (15874d)

  36. Paul Ryan is a pooper

    poopers float to the top cause of how poopy they are

    i hate it so much

    happyfeet (831175)

  37. Do you mean to tell us, DRJ, that after watching the debate last night, you do not appreciate the challenges Boehner had to face?

    nk (dbc370)

  38. Heh. I’m glad you are mocking Harwood instead of channeling him, nk.

    Seriously, though, I appreciate the challenges of leading a divided caucus. What I don’t appreciate is the weasely way he tried to solve them.

    DRJ (15874d)

  39. As Chairman of Ways and Means, Ryan was or should have been the one in the House responsible for the new budget, not Boehner. It annoys me that his role is being downplayed to only supporting it.

    nk (dbc370)

  40. Wouldn’t a return to Regular Order restore that balance? I don’t like the idea of a cabal writing all the laws and giving Congress a day to vote up or down, but that’s what we’ve had for several years under both Parties. Regular Order may be messier but I think it’s better than this.

    DRJ (15874d)

  41. Team forfeit is afraid of their own shadow.
    Speaker Nancy in slacks.

    mg (31009b)

  42. 43. Winning! Yeahhh!

    Given that 6 years back Ryan knew we were devaluing USD with QE to inflate the Feds out of The Debt and that tack has utterly failed as the world falls into chaos his ‘hate the process but love compromise is especially cynical and embracing collapse.

    There is no redeeming value in his strategy, it is a total sellout.

    DNF (979433)

  43. and so he was with many of the conservatives voting for him.

    It seems that there are just too many people happy to arrange the chairs on the deck of the Titanic.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  44. Beldar,

    I liked the excerpts I saw from Ryan’s speech today. I hope he can return the House to Regular Order as his rhetoric suggests he might do.

    DRJ (15874d)

  45. DRJ – that would be a great first step.

    JD (34f761)

  46. Ryan will soon be giving the crimaliens everything the democrats want them to have.

    mg (31009b)

  47. With the last 16 years of failed republican effort, Ryan is the perfect hack to carry them to whigsville.

    mg (31009b)

  48. what a fiasco

    maybe team r should have another behghazi hearing

    omg four dead americans

    happyfeet (831175)

  49. That’s not even remotely humorous, hf

    JD (34f761)

  50. of course is not funny

    team r tried for years and years to exploit the holy hell out of their corpses and came up looking stupid and feckless

    there’s a lesson in that i think Mr. JD

    all the resources those knobs sunk into benghazi benghazi benghazi and for what

    nothing

    not even a dollop of sumpin

    and now that pelosi’s boy ryan’s been crowned

    and he’s looked upon the unprincipled boehnerbudget and called it good

    you really have to wonder if maybe all along they were just exploting them four dead american corpses as a sideshow to distract from their own unprincipled cowardly whorishness

    for unprincipled is what Team R is

    unprincipled to its core

    and hey did you see Supergirl

    I did not but the hot airs say it’s pretty cool

    happyfeet (831175)

  51. *exploiting* them four dead american corpses i mean

    happyfeet (831175)

  52. here is a place you can go and restore tranquility to all your various chakras Mr. JD it’s quite near here sort of

    you go and you pay monies and you get to sit in the salty caves made out of salt

    how charmingly outre is that especially for the midwest

    i so bad wanna go but it’s hard to find just the right person you can count on to go with the right semi-serious frame of mind

    happyfeet (831175)

  53. Come the Revolution, everybody will go to salt caves.

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. — Hanlon’s Razor

    Isn’t McCarthy from California, BTW?

    nk (9faaca)

  54. yes yes he is

    salt caves there would be super-treacherous cause of all the seismics

    happyfeet (831175)

  55. 52. Exactly, they would have let charlie mansion walk.
    Salt is good.

    mg (31009b)

  56. Happyfeet – let’s go there! I’ll do it.

    JD (b3cb62)

  57. :) yes yes whenever you have a chance we go!

    happyfeet (831175)

  58. 49. Agreed, the similarities between the times are sufficient to denote a significant discontinuity on our horizon in American history.

    It continues to amaze how complacent the sheeple remain at this late date.

    DNF (b8039a)

  59. That looks very neat, hf. Wish I had one. Ya’ll be sure to tell us what it’s like.

    DRJ (15874d)

  60. That looks amazing, happyfeet.

    aphrael (0eab62)

  61. Aha! Tech problem solved, sorta.

    aphrael (0eab62)

  62. If Benghazi had occurred under a Republican watch, we would’ve had a much bigger scandal. Abu Grahbe was on the front page of the New York Times for 30 straight days and nobody died.

    AZ Bob (42c12a)

  63. Responding to 50 – 53.

    AZ Bob (42c12a)

  64. *>:)

    :*>:) devil:

    :*>:) devil:

    Yoda (feee21)

  65. :*>:):

    Yoda (feee21)

  66. *>:) devil

    :*>:) devil:

    :*>:):

    Yoda (feee21)

  67. *>:)

    Yoda (feee21)

  68. :>:):

    Yoda (feee21)

  69. >:) >:-)

    nk (9faaca)

  70. :)
    😉

    nk (9faaca)


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