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10/27/2015

Boehner Agrees to Two-Year Budget Deal Increasing Spending

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:41 am



Ed Morrissey:

Republicans had wanted to end the sequester on defense spending, while Democrats demanded increases in social-program spending. Each side got what they wanted — more spending.

Same old same old.

Donald Trump might be OK with this or he might not. Who knows? And his opinion could change tomorrow. He has no anti-big government principles supporting his thinking.

But, without even looking, I know Ted Cruz will be against this.

You want change? Donald Trump ain’t the guy. Ted Cruz is the guy.

58 Responses to “Boehner Agrees to Two-Year Budget Deal Increasing Spending”

  1. More Morrissey: “There also appears to be an even-up swap on entitlement reforms. The GOP got Social Security reform to extend the viability of the program, while Democrats got to stop a big spike in Medicare insurance premiums that would have reflected poorly on their health-care reform over the past five years.”

    Yeah, I’m sure there will be real Social Security reform.

    Remember when ensuring the viability of a giant FDR-created social welfare program was not a big GOP goal?

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. Cruz wanted the GOP to get meaningful concessions for any debt deal. I don’t think this deal did that.

    DRJ (15874d)

  3. Cruz would like to see Republican Senate leadership get a few items in return. His list includes making sure Planned Parenthood doesn’t receive $500 million in taxpayer dollars and that Iran doesn’t receive a dime of funding under the current nuclear weapons deal with the U.S.

    He also wants to find a way to incorporate Sen. Pat Toomey’s bill into the mix. It states that if the debt ceiling does not get raised, the U.S. government will still make sure its debts get paid and not default in any way. However, what Cruz wants and what GOP Senate and House leadership actually pursue have, so far at least, been at odds with each other.

    none of Cruz’s concessions would make a damn bit of difference with respect to failmerica’s obscene and embarrassing ghetto-fabulous finances

    not a damn bit of difference

    he’s just pandering

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  4. Republicans need the votes of old people more than Democrats do.

    nk (dbc370)

  5. Tax-and-spend, but certainly spend-and-spend, is a mindset that far too many Americans tolerate or actually embrace.

    We is the enemy.

    Or another saying: “I don’t think this will end well.”

    Mark (f713e4)

  6. They won’t matter to you, hf, but it takes more than one vote to win the Presidency.

    DRJ (15874d)

  7. Looks like Cruz may have been right about why Boehner resigned.

    DRJ (15874d)

  8. he’s just pandering

    Too bad Cruz isn’t homosexual. You’d then probably give him plenty benefit of the doubt.

    Mark (f713e4)

  9. yeah too bad the ted cruz isn’t gay or else i’d probably give him plenty benefit of the doubt and then i would point out that none of the concessions he asked for in the budget deal would have any impact on failmerica’s parlous finances

    so in other words the caps would still be busted and there’s no material difference between a ted cruz budget deal and a boehnerslut budget deal

    but the ted cruz isn’t gay he’s a kim davis butt-snuffler which means he’s actually *anti* gay Mr. Mark

    I have links

    and a *fabulous* picture

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  10. #7 Give Cruz credit — he is a bright man.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  11. Ironic that a lame duck Speaker and a lame lame lame duck President managed to negotiate a 2 year budget agreement when in the past they couldn’t even agree to 1 year terms. /spit

    JD (34f761)

  12. I want to see Boehner cry and not tears of joy, goddamnit!

    Colonel Haiku (436b69)

  13. What did voters in Ohio ever see in this go-along-to-get-along sh*theel?

    Colonel Haiku (436b69)

  14. Ted Cruz has to win to make a difference. That means at some point he has to make a move and quit drafting behind Trump.

    Then he has to beat Hillary. After Biden supposedly beat Paul Ryan –while Biden lied about his Iraqi war vote –beating Hillary in a debate is really not going to matter when the liberal media will simply declare her the winner.

    Remember Hillary only needs to win–40% of the white vote to win the Presidency.

    Conversely Cruz would need to hold near 60% of the white vote. Cruz gets you Texas, but we already have Texas.
    How would Cruz play with the blue collar rust belt vote in Ohio, and how would he do in Florida?

    Danube River Guide (76b104)

  15. Crying John can now go back to sleeping on the bar floor at his local country club.

    Bugg (db3a97)

  16. Remember Hillary only needs to win–40% of the white vote to win the Presidency.

    Ceteris paribus. Cruz/Rubio would totally screw up their numbers among Hispanics (New Mexico, Colorado, Florida, maybe even California). Use Rubio right and you can get some women voting for the good-looking young guy instead of the old hag.

    The only thing about Trump that’s good is that all the Dem attacks that they usually trot out (misogyny, filthy rich, uncaring about the working man) are at least true about Trump.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  17. Don’t Cry For Us, Johnny Boehner

    It won’t be easy, you’ll think it strange
    When we try to explain how we feel
    That you should pack your bags and hit the road
    You can’t believe it

    All you will see is a House you once led
    Although it’s had it up to here with you
    And you can’t leave fast enough
    You had to let it happen, you wouldn’t change
    Couldn’t do what you were elected to do
    Stabbing us all in the back
    Making whoopee with the weak-suck Prez

    So, we chose the boot
    And used it on you, we’ll try something new
    You had your chance to soar but
    We never expected you to

    Don’t cry for us, Johnny Boehner
    And don’t think that we don’t mean it
    All through your wasted days
    Your mad existence
    You broke your promise
    Now keep your distance

    Colonel Haiku (436b69)

  18. It will be interesting to see which Republicans stand with Boehner on this.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  19. Excellent Col.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  20. Kevin M

    Let’s say I caught Rubio and Cruz in the same lie–and it’s an important lie–I’m almost willing to still go with Rubio because—I think Rubio could bring in Florida. I also think that Cruz’s demeanor does not play well. He’s a lawyer, but he comes off too preachy. I like Rubio’s presentation better, and I think he might be better on national security.

    Danube River Guide (76b104)

  21. there is nothing wrong with the current crop of leader5hit in DC that an Iranian nuke going off during a SOTU speech wouldn’t fix…and talk about poetic justice.

    i just can’t see a reason why the mullahs would attack their allies like that.

    😎

    redc1c4 (e4c086)

  22. Thanks, Kevin

    Colonel Haiku (436b69)

  23. Budget Deal Calls for Selling Strategic Oil Reserves

    About 8 percent of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve would be sold to raise close to $3 billion from 2018 through 2025.

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  24. @happyfeet:raise close to $3 billion from 2018 through 2025.

    Not your fault but I am so sick of this. 2018 – 2015 is 8 years. 8 years * three trillion is 24 trillion. 3 billion over 24 trillion is diddly/squat (expressed as a percentage, 0.00125%).

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  25. Happyfeet is worried Tom Cruz. Good times.

    Davod (f3a711)

  26. Actually, 2018-2015 is minus 3 years.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  27. Happyfeet is worried about Tom Cruz. Good times.

    Sorry missed out a word in my 25.

    Davod (f3a711)

  28. Who is Tom Cruz, a bad movie actor?

    aphrael (28772f)

  29. In the beginning there were three guys i had a ton of respect for and wished anyone of them could succeed: Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal and Ted Cruz. I preferred either Perry or Jindal for their exec experience, but also recognized that Cruz really is a sharp guy and therefore had no real qualms about his not having exec level experience. I have to say that i was really against Trump in the beginning because the truly idiotic things he has said over the years. However, i have to say that i was impressed by his tax plan. Not what i would truly like (repeal the 16th and replace with a national sales and use tax) but still not bad as plans go. I still have not really formed an opinion on Carson. I realize he is a smart guy, but still not really sure where he is on economic issues (which is my main). It will be interesting.

    JeffreyL (2eddb6)

  30. good point Mr. Hanna but the oil sells are in there to support new spendings cause of how boehnerslut feels failmerica is not spending enough monies

    as a portion of these new spendings the oil sells are a lil more significant i think

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  31. Who is Tom Cruz, a bad movie actor?

    I’d be betting on a porn star.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  32. Kevin – there’s also Com Truise, the synthpop artist.

    aphrael (28772f)

  33. Regarding this whole budget mess, I’m done with it. Just done with it. Not trying to exculpate Boehner or any other Republican, but I know way too many people who style themselves as conservatives but bitch and moan about cuts to the military, cuts to entitlement programs, cuts to programs that prop-up well-connected industries, cuts to federal aid going to student loans, etc. In other words, considering that we right-wingers have been mollifying ourselves for the past 20+ years by insisting that the U.S. electorate is at heart conservative, we have merely been in deep denial. The left has won, and 2/3 of us are in some respect or other addicted to Big Government.

    Would President Ted Cruz really push through serious cuts in federal spending? I don’t know, but I wouldn’t bet the house on it. Would President Trump? No way. Would President Carson? Maybe and maybe not. President Rubio? Probably not. President Bush? Highly doubtful. President Fiorina? I’d bet against it. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m just going to sit back and wait to catch up to the Greeks, a few years sooner if Hillary! is elected than if some Republican is. This was a great country once, up until we learned that we could all vote ourselves a share of the treasury.

    JVW (aa050c)

  34. The problem is the spending is not value neutral, it supports amnesty constructivist eduvation, everything but legitimate constitutional duties.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  35. 2/3 of the people who vote are addicted to bog government, JVW, not 2/3 of America. That’s not the same thing, and Maine recently showed us that even addicted people can change, albeit involuntarily. So, yes, I think Ted Cruz can make a difference.

    DRJ (15874d)

  36. Big government, not bug government, although Autocorrect may actually have gotten that one right.

    DRJ (15874d)

  37. The breitbart story about the real story behind ryan, makes the point clear, mccarthy’s banana peel was deliberate.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  38. DRJ, the best thing about the various vowel replacements is that they all work in one way or another:

    Bag government — that’s what Jesse Jackson Jr got caught practicing
    Beg government — $18 trillion in the hole and that’s exactly what it’s come to
    Big government — we all know that one
    Bog government — worse than any swamp in Florida
    Bug government — just like the Obamacare exchange website

    JVW (aa050c)

  39. Perfect, JVW. They really do fit, don’t they?

    Also, here’s something for my fellow Cruz supporters.

    DRJ (15874d)

  40. I’m in a Ted Cruz mood today. Here is James Carville from last year saying Cruz is the best GOP candidate.

    DRJ (15874d)

  41. Let’s try a little intellectual exercise. This is our new litmus test, so let’s see who passes the test:

    (Name of GOP presidential candidate) might be OK with this or he(she) might not. Who knows? And his (her) opinion could change tomorrow.

    Clearly, Cruz passes the test hands down. But who else? I’m not sure any of the others would, especially since Rand has been such a weasel of late. I suppose Fiorina would pass. Beyond that, probably none, at least with any certainty.

    I see no benefit in overstating Trump’s manifold shortcoming.

    ThOR (a52560)

  42. ThOR–

    There are an awful lot of Republicans — the eGOP has a big base, too — who view Cruz as the devil. Don’t assume any of these people are universally acceptable. We might find ourselves back at Scott Walker in a few months.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  43. The House has at lest moved to impeach Koskinen.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  44. We have been fed that crap for some time, narciso. I can’t believe I ate it that long. I is a gullible fool.

    mg (31009b)

  45. Holding the line on the spending until the budget balances makes intuitive sense. I think any number of R candidates might be aligned with something like that but who would stand up to the media onslaught? That should disqualify all the establishment folk. Honey Badger and Cruz have already demonstrated this. Maybe Carson too.

    East Bay Jay (c65ac0)

  46. There’s also Pablo Cruz and whatchu gonna do when he says goodbye?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  47. There’s nothing more terrifying than seeing a large, roaring, two-legged rubber dinosaur coming at you through a stand of pine trees. Destroy all monsters!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. @ DRJ (#39): Thanks for linking the Chris Cillizza post from the WaPo. I agree with that Cruz has run, and continues to run, a very thoughtful and disciplined campaign. Although still new to elected office, he’s proved a diligent study and quick learner.

    @ Danube River Guide (#14), who wrote, “Ted Cruz has to win to make a difference.” I don’t think that’s true, but perhaps we’re quibbling about definitions and goals. Yes, to make the kinds of differences that a sitting POTUS can make, Cruz has to win. But I am, in general, pleased by most of the effects that Cruz’ campaign is having on the ongoing national dialog, the setting of agenda items for the national debate, and the shift in the Overton Window for a whole bunch of stuff paradigms that need shaking up. I still think he’s a longshot, but he’s got all the objective criteria that point to staying power — funding, organization on the ground, etc. — to get to the actual primary votes. He has a strategy, a plausible path, for where delegates sufficient to gain him the nomination can be picked up along the way.

    Beldar’s prognostication: The next debate (to take place in a matter of hours from now) will, within a week’s time thereafter, winnow between 2-4 of the current batch, all from among the candidates now polling less than 5%.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  49. Further and more specific prognostication: Cruz will still be in the race, I predict, for the March 1 primaries, which is the strategic key to his delegate-collection pathway; and even if that doesn’t develop as he hopes, he’ll make good use of the time between now and then to continue trying to influence GOP and national opinion through his presidential campaign. This prospect pleases me.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  50. The Boosh, Rove, Boehner party will continue to bring the good people of this country to their knees to serve obama, the commies and all the crimaleins. My prognostication.

    mg (31009b)

  51. The rethuglicans could not impeach a peach.

    mg (31009b)

  52. 53. The fat lady’s chest is heaving with a bellow, the note sung and on its way to our hearing.

    DNF (45ef00)

  53. 56. Cruz is the only public figure to distill, articulate and elucidate the conservative kerygma, let alone act on the conviction.

    Anklebite: No one will foot the bill of public debt: default is ongoing and gaining momentum.

    DNF (45ef00)

  54. 55. A blue note could echo for decades.

    mg (31009b)


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