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9/24/2015

Donald Trump: Rich Lowry and Fox News Insulted Me and the FCC Should Fine Them!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:51 am



So Rich Lowry says on Fox News that Carly Fiorina “cut his [Donald Trump’s] balls off with the precision of a surgeon” at the second Republican debate. The Tough Guy’s reaction? An immediate resort to thuggery:

I want this guy in charge of the FCC. He will make sure it treats all critics of Dear Leader with the governmental retribution they deserve.

I thought we dispensed with the mentality of the Sedition Act once Jefferson pardoned the people convicted under that absurd law. Put Donald Trump in the White House and that thuggish mindset will be back, with a vengeance.

130 Responses to “Donald Trump: Rich Lowry and Fox News Insulted Me and the FCC Should Fine Them!”

  1. If Trump’s skin were any thinner, he’d need a reservoir top as a hat.

    Colonel Haiku (4428ea)

  2. if fox news keeps it up they’re not gonna get to go trick or treating this year they’re gonna have to stay home and watch the great pumpkin starring Charlie Brown

    they have a bad attitude and they need to shape up

    but it’s ok to say balls on cable it’s even ok to say it on broadcast now

    balls balls balls balls

    happyfeet (831175)

  3. just avoid the muppets, run away it’s gotten creepy, it’s part of what scott adams, notes is his technique, of neutralizing opponents, it overkill like a MOAB

    narciso (ee1f88)

  4. more of the absurd,

    http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-09-19

    narciso (ee1f88)

  5. he’s not gauging it by morality but effectiveness, I suppose it’s an alinsky way of looking at things

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/129713033741/the-reason-for-trumps-success

    narciso (ee1f88)

  6. “One candidate in the race for the Republican presidential nomination is not playing by the rules. He is rude and crude and having a very good time of it. Oh, and by the way, he is leading the field by a lot. . . Trump’s rambunctious presence in the race is responsible for a miracle. The conservative intellectuals have finally thrown in with the left intellectuals.”

    It’s difficult to disagree with R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr, over at The American Spectator, on the classist nature of Trumphobia. We saw – and continue to see – the same with Sarah Palin.

    ThOR (a52560)

  7. he should note however, this is what the authorities tried and in the end, succeeded in doing to Silvio when he was in office,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  8. Hey, I thought that you were a law and order type dude . . .

    Scoob (764148)

  9. well there are differences, she was more genuine, against the strigoi who had no such scruples, both within and outside her party, she didn’t have a chance,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  10. “Donal Trump”?! You have misspelled Dear Leader’s name in a blatant act of malicious sedition. You should not be allowed on teh Internetz and the TFCC (Trump’s F*ckin Cool Commission) should (and will!!) fine and imprison you.

    Leviticus (f9a067)

  11. Trump defenders can go take a flying leap. Trump represents everything that is wrong with the political system.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  12. It’s pathetic that we (ie, the USA) find ourselves in this situation in 2015, stuck with crud in the White House, ongoing examples of loony liberalism intertwined with berserk levels of political correctness, an electorate that gives too much benefit of the doubt to the left (if enough Americans were ideologically sane and respectful of ethics, junk like Hillary would have vanished years ago), and a Republican candidate with the thin-skinned, New-York-volatility of Trump.

    Mark (627bb9)

  13. So ‘Rock-Ribbed’ conservative Donald Trump goes running to the Big Bad Government to carve out a pound of flesh from someone who hurt his feelings. Yeah… that’s about right.

    waw (49f9a4)

  14. Eight years ago a lot of otherwise rational and well-meaning people seriously thought that a charismatic community organizer turned undistinguished politician from Chicago would be willing to sacrifice his formidable ego for the good of the country and would advance a coherent and well-thought-out agenda that would help restore our national greatness. Today, a lot of otherwise rational and well-meaning people seem to think that a guy who inherited great wealth and used every loophole and legal trick in the book to make that fortune even more vast will be willing to sacrifice his formidable ego for the good of the country and will advance and coherent and well-thought-out agenda that will help restore our national greatness. Lots of luck with that, Trump supporters.

    JVW (ba78f9)

  15. You should have put quotes around “conservative”, waw, because Trump is anything but Conservative. Lindsey Graham and Meghan McCain are more Conservative than Trump.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  16. I disagree with Rich Lowry. Donald Trump is like that guy who took anabolic steroids four times a week for 25 years… shriveled.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  17. “Donal Trump”

    Not to be confused with Donal Graeme.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  18. I thought we dispensed with the mentality of the Sedition Acts once Jefferson pardoned the people convicted under that absurd law.

    The sedition act was about criticism of the government and its policies. Trump’s issue with Lowry was about speech he (Trump) regarded as indecent. There is plenty to criticize Trump for in the things he actually said and did. Why make up some bullshit about sedition?

    Anon Y. Mous (8ec442)

  19. This isn’t an aberration. Trump is no more a constitutionalist than Obama, and perhaps less so. He’s from the extreme pragmatic school of government — whatever you get away with is legal. Another Nixon, but markedly dumber; no one has ever accused Trump of having a first-class mind.

    So, to people like me, who view Obama’s myriad encroachments on separation of powers, civil liberty, federalism and any other part of the American system he finds inconvenient, Trump is no savior. He is, if anything, another stop on the road to serfdom.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  20. 12. Mark (627bb9) — 9/24/2015 @ 8:31 am

    and a Republican candidate with the thin-skinned, New-York-volatility of Trump.

    I don’t think Donald Trump can possibly be that thin-skinned. He is just trying to intimidate people. And in the debates, and elsewhere, he has admitted that his attacks on people (sometimes for their looks) are retaliatory, to sort of “teach” people not to criticize Donald Trump.

    And when he attacks people, he will pick up anything that anybody as said, even if he normally wouldn’t make that kind of criticism – Scott Walker claimed that Donald Trump was repeating talking points of his Democratic/union opposition. (Scott Walker himself was pathetically changing his positions on most issues and it got to be pretty obvious.)

    Sammy Finkelman (2972ba)

  21. no he’s a European style populist, as long as failure theatre 2015, keeps on going, he will still have fuel,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  22. Trump’s problem is that he cannot afford to be mocked, or look stupid. Because he has no defense against it other than sending in the goons.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  23. And Fiorina DID cut his balls off.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  24. I wonder if he’s going to call the FCC down on this, too:

    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2015/09/22/exclusive-trumps-use-of-foreign-workers-in-florida-questioned/

    A CBS4 News review of U.S. Labor Department records found that Trump businesses have requested hundreds of visas in recent years claiming they were unable to find Americans willing to do even the most basic tasks.

    And that is particularly true at Trump’s famed Palm Beach estate called Mar-A-Lago.

    Every year since at least 2008, Mar-A-Lago has requested anywhere from 70 to 90 visas to bring foreign workers into the country as cooks, waiters and housekeepers. The starting pay is between $10 and $12 an hour.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  25. rest assured they will go after him, like they did with Adelson, the supplement guy, and a whole host of others,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  26. Mark Steyn thinks our election process is too drawn out and expensive. I’m beginning to see the advantages to our system. Trump started out digging his hole with trowel, in the second debate he switched to shovel, and now he’s learning how to use a backhoe. Initially, his anger and candor were attractive when he was speaking about problems that our administration can’t even begin to address due to their language code and their ideological blinders. Not content with that, he has lost all focus on national problems, and now he’s firing broadsides at every little gnat that dares to fly before him. The longer this goes on, and his list of targets increases, the more apparent it will be that the underlying principle for his actions is to smack down anything that displeases him … today. Like the mythical snake that eats his tail, Trump will eventually close the circle with an enemies list has no coherence other than proximity to Trump as travels down the campaign trail.

    He will continue to have a group of supporters, but I don’t think it will carry him through the primary process. Or so I hope.

    BobStewartathome (97a232)

  27. 20.Trump’s problem is that he cannot afford to be mocked, or look stupid

    I’d say that he compounds his issues with that silly hair do. A lot of commentators have complemented him on his head of hair, but I don’t see it. To me, it looks like a small number of very long hairs that have been trained into the brim of a baseball cap. With the right camera angles, the bald spot on top is apparent. Vanity is not a disqualifier, but a botched vanity is a clue pointing to other issues.

    BobStewartathome (97a232)

  28. Teh sh*tstain formerly known as “waw” is hereby officially frozen and neutralized.

    Colonel Haiku (4428ea)

  29. He would be better served with a hairpiece, or implants like Biden.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  30. If Fiorina did cut off Trump’s balls, she has done little more than level the otherwise eunuch-dominated playing field in a eunuch-dominated party. But, of course, she hasn’t. This is simply more wishful thinking by yet another Trumphobic commentator. But The Donald’s response? Why, that’s Classic Trump – and, as narciso points out, unconscious Alinsky. RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” It is difficult to imagine a more entertaining bombast than Donald Trump (or less entertaining that the Trump scolds).

    The beauty of the Trump phenomenon is two-fold. First, Trump’s truculence encourages the entire field to strap on a pair. That’s just what we are seeing; those who don’t are driven from the field. How is that not good news? Gov. Walker’s Cry For Me Argentina swansong was the crowning embarrassment of his squishy campaign. With any luck, there will be many more to come. And second, it makes the job of shutting down outspokenness by others seeking the Republican nomination far more difficult. For example, if it weren’t for Trump, the full resources of the Left and institutional Right would be focusing on the Muslim-questioning comments made by Carson and Huck. With Trump in play, the Elite can’t spare the resources because Trump’s the bigger threat. This is definitely bad news for the Democrats and their fellow travelers in the Republican Party as they lose control of the narrative. Of course, it is very good news for the rest of us.

    ThOR (a52560)

  31. Take one example at a time, Perry’s audition was to reintroduce his job creating bonafides, dr, evil and company, had him stick up for mccain and denounce trump, really there wasn’t market share for that,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  32. the questioner appears to have been a moby, regardless a real issue arose out of it,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  33. I’ll repeat it, Trumpeteers are supporting a goon who is to the Left of Meghan McCain. And yes, Trump is more narcissistic and thuggish than Obama.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  34. For the last umpteen election cycles I’ve been told to hold my breath and vote for the nominal Republican who can defeat the Democrat. So what’s changed?

    ThOR (a52560)

  35. What’s changed is now you can vote for a Democrat in the Republican primary. And you’re aligning with that Democrat.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  36. Anyone who truly wants to vote for a Conservative already knows not to vote for Donald Trump. Anyone who wants to vote for Donald Trump is not truly interested in Conservatism as the proper way to rescue this once great country.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  37. The FCC was enacted to supercede the Radio Act of 1927. The Radio Act of 1927 superceded the landmark legislation Radio Act of 1912, which set a precedent for federal regulation of wireless communication.

    Ain’t it interesting how an action by the Federal government, when it is a clear neon colored violation of the Bill of Rights, it suddenly earns the label “landmark”?

    The Radio Act, and it’s derivatives (the FCC in it’s entire) was a panicked reaction to the sinking of the Titanic. Congress rushed through their wish list legislation, being the power to tell the rest of us to shut up, based on the slander that American radio operators clogged up the air waves preventing the Titanic’s distress call from being heard.
    Totally false, but it was in keeping with the time honored tradition of never letting a tragedy go to waste when it can be used to abridge the freedoms of innocent bystanders.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  38. Marco Rubio’s supporter claims Trump has been castrated by the female candidate.

    If you are Donald Trump, how to combat that short of showing your balls?

    Oh… Yeah.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  39. Poor Carly, namecaller herself — never a success in biz; and the non-conservative candidate in the Repub primary fro Cally Senate, failure.
    And as you should recognize then, an establishment candidate then and now.

    jb (df30e9)

  40. I am not a Carly supporter. She definitely has some shortcomings in the social Conservative sphere. But she is definitely more Conservative than Donald Trump.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  41. Speaking of thuggishness, no class, and vulgarity, why do you suppose it is that Rich Lowry is retweeting such luminaries as Soledad O’Brien and hash tag #NoBallsTrump?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  42. Speaking of thuggishness, no class, and vulgarity, why do you suppose it is that Rich Lowry is retweeting such luminaries as Soledad O’Brien and hash tag #NoBallsTrump?

    Is that supposed to be secret, and that’s why you don’t mention it?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  43. https://twitter.com/RichLowry < — have a look for yourself.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  44. Papertiger, I refer you to my comment at 12:01pm, as it relates directly to you in this instance.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  45. John You sound like a parrot to me. Over and over again repeating the same thing. What ? Two dozen times?

    It’s not enough to say Trump is a liberal. Show me Trump being a liberal.

    Bring citations, because your word don’t mean shit to me.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  46. John You sound like a parrot to me. Over and over again repeating the same thing. What ? Two dozen times?

    It’s not enough to say Trump is a liberal. Show me Trump being a liberal.

    Bring citations, because your word doesn’t hold water.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  47. For new readers John Hitchcock is a Mexican, or so he claims (actually he’s American but not proud of the fact. Much like a pre 2008 Michelle Obama.), who doesn’t want to go back home.

    So he’s nursing his hurt feelings by slandering Trump as often as possible.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  48. Show me his Conservative past with Gun Bans, because it is not Conservative.
    Show me his Conservative past with the creation of new taxes and raising taxes on the wealthy, because it is not Conservative.
    Show me his Conservative past with Eminent Domain and stealing property from old people to create parking lots for rich people, because it is not Conservative.

    There is nothing in his past that is Conservative. No Trumpeteer can provide anything to show Conservative bonafides because he doesn’t have any. All the Trumpeteers can provide is loud-mouth thuggery. The same thing Christie had when everyone was swooning over him.

    The fact of the matter is: You cannot provide any Conservative bonafides in defense of the loud-mouth thug.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  49. Actually, papertiger, you are directly lying about me. You lie about whether I’m proud of my natural-born American heritage. You lied about my position re Mexico in that thread and anyone with a brain knew it then. I am calling you a liar, because you are, indeed, a liar.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  50. John loves him some Mexicans this time of year.

    You don’t have to be lonely John @Farmersonlydotcom
    papertiger (c2d6da) — 9/9/2015 @ 11:58 am

    Papertiger, do you have something against Mexicans? It sounds like you do. I’m part Mexican, and many people on this board have known I am part Mexican for years now. I’m also part Indian (feather). I’m also part Irish. And my daughter is more Indian (feather) than am I. And my grandson is more black than Obama is. And the lady in my life is Asian. So now you have more ammunition for your racial attacks against me.

    Again, you are one great big huge piece of fecal matter.

    And before you start on the illegal immigration issue, study up before you make yourself look even more idiotic than you just did.
    John Hitchcock (81341d) — 9/9/2015 @ 12:39 pm

    Oh, and papertiger, I’m also a Jew lover, as can be readily seen by clicking my name.
    John Hitchcock (81341d) — 9/9/2015 @ 12:44 pm

    I also refuse to vote for the Socialist who is to the Left of the RINOs in the Republican campaign

    Said the guy who claimed allegiance with Mexico.
    papertiger (c2d6da) — 9/10/2015 @ 11:38 am

    As you can see, you lied about what I said, in the thread where I said it. You lied about me then, and you are lying about me now. It’s all you have to combat me: lying about me.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  51. mexican ancestry is so cool may you walk with texacuacapoodle for all your days until tastipastacatl guides you through the realm of shadow and fire to the thirteenth heaven

    happyfeet (831175)

  52. John@45: Trump supporters are probably tired of voting for “National Review conservatives,” who cluelessly, year after year, impale themselves on abortion and gay rights questions, responding as if they are running for president of the Conservative’s Union,instead of the US.

    They are tired of losing because republicans and Conservatives alike fail to focus on debt, pensions, defense and immigration-topics that large majorities of people are concerned about. Instead, they get sucked into defending a county clerk who refuses to issue marriage licenses as required by law.

    They’re fed up of voting for republicans who have put their hands over their ears as people howled about unchecked immigration.

    Sorry John, but why don’t you tell us who you’re voting for and why you think he/she is so superior to Trump?

    You go ahead John and proudly vote for some candidate who you consider conservative

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd (5e0a82)

  53. Dood. Anyone who pays attention already knows I’m a Cruz man.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  54. very eloquent Mr. Mudd

    happyfeet (831175)

  55. Trump just never knows when he should put a sock in it.

    Comanche Voter (1d5c8b)

  56. And IMMIGRATION is not the problem. Illegal immigration, on the other hand, is.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  57. Papertiger is a liar. For evidence, I give you his words in this thread and his words in the thread I linked and quoted. Again, papertiger is a liar.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  58. It is pretty amazing that Mr NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT goes whining to the FCC over some pretty tepid language. It’s like they’d never heard of irony.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  59. Can I get you a tissue, John?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  60. Since you’ve been proven to be a liar, papertiger, I would suspect you need one. Why don’t you try using the truth for a change?

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  61. As my daughter’s former platoon sergeant said, liars, cheaters and thieves are the lowest of the low. Since you’ve been proven to be a liar, that means you’re among the lowest of the low.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  62. Alleged Conservatives attack Trump with more ferocity than they do Obama.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  63. Trump has zero, zilch, nada, nothing when it comes to Conservative bonafides. And I have had plenty negative to say about Baraka Hussein Obama.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  64. Carly not a success in BIZ?

    Bwaaaaa, only a moron thinks you get to be CEO twice of Major US Public Corporation by accident.

    More likely you can be CEO of a Private Company by sheer luck, and let us not forget $40MM he inherited from his father.

    Just saying ….

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  65. #60 In this case I was referring to Rich L and others in the media who suck off Obola while biting off Trump’s.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  66. So our Red Pope goes on record as wanting to abolish the death penalty across the world but on abortion he is mum.

    Go figure, a few criminals take more prominence than 1000 of millions of innocent children.

    As if the Pope laments dead German dissidents while ignoring to mention the 6MM dead Jews.

    Ay ay ay ….. we live in such a corrupt world and the Pope seemingly participating in it.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  67. I thought we dispensed with the mentality of the Sedition Act once Jefferson pardoned the people convicted under that absurd law.

    Have you not been paying attention to the current administration?

    egd (1ad898)

  68. Mexico is shockingly not that welcoming to all who come #upon their shores,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  69. I enjoy Trump agitating the establishment suits of both parties and the self absorbed media dolts. They suck.
    If Trump goes third party, team republican could have a seizure, which would be a good thing.
    Do it.

    mg (31009b)

  70. The Vatican is a country. What is its immigration policy?

    nk (dbc370)

  71. RKS: Perhaps the Pope is comfortable with the belief that all his followers who have lost their lives to ISIL death squads, and ISIL PR video productions, will find happiness in “heaven”. This would be quite a development … the Catholic Church embraces suicide-by-jihadists.

    But if works for him and our feckless president, it must have some redeeming features. Does the PopeMobile seat two comfortably?

    BobStewartathome (97a232)

  72. the loopdeloop guevarapoop’s 15 minutes are up I think

    why is drudge so fascinated by this weirdo socialist douchebag

    so over this taco

    happyfeet (831175)

  73. Didn’t Trump build that border wall around the Vatican?

    mg (31009b)

  74. It’s not enough to say Trump is a liberal. Show me Trump being a liberal.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 9/24/2015 @ 1:09 pm

    We already discussed in another thread how Trump is for higher taxes, and not just closing the hedge fund loophole.

    If you really are unaware of this stuff, you’re off in your own little world.

    Trump came out for socialized medicine that was to the left of Obamacare, and he still thinks it works.

    Trump proposed the largest tax increase in U.S. history. That’s not easy to do, but Trump did.

    Trump not only supported eminent domain to take people’s private property so developers could use it for casinos and amusement parks, he’s tried to do it himself!

    Trump jumped on board with Obama’s tax-the-rich mantra, dismissing a flat tax because he wants rates that “graduate upward.” Note to Donald: that’s the system we have in place.

    Trump doesn’t just saber-rattle about trade wars, he wants to take up the sword and rush the U.S. into massive trade wars with huge tariffs that would be a devastating tax on American businesses and consumers.

    Donald Trump poses as anti-establishment. But that’s exactly the problem. He’s posing, just like the reality star he is. Playing a part for the sake of an audience – he really is the worst kind of politician.

    Although in an interview just yesterday I believe, he endorsed a flat tax and then, in the same interview, said he was against it because the rich should pay more. I don’t know how someone can take both sides of a question at the same time.

    Are you playing stupid – the way Trump pretends to be anti-establishment?

    I get the feeling there’s actually just one thing papertiger cares about based on some of his remarks in this thread.

    Gerald A (949d7d)

  75. fetal tissue research has helped doctors understand the risks to the fetus when the mom is infected with toxoplasma gondii

    they’ve for sure learned there’s a strong correlation between toxoplasma gondii infection with spontaneous abortion, so more research in this area could save the lives of wee small baby children, but carly fetalrrhea says it’s better to just bag the dead fetuses and treat the remains like medical waste instead of doing this kind of research

    but

    what does the poop say

    ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!

    happyfeet (831175)

  76. oh wrong thread sorry

    i’m multitasking like a gazelle here people

    happyfeet (831175)

  77. Trump supports continued Planned Parenthood funding. I don’t know how that fits into anti-establishment.

    This “anti-establishment” fixation is a substitute for analyzing someone’s actual positions on things anyway.

    Gerald A (949d7d)

  78. That’s the whole thing, really. The Trumpeteers are completely incapable of producing any Conservative bonafides for their idol, and have no desire to even try. Just like the Clintonistas have no capability nor desire to produce any Hillary accomplishments.

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  79. I can just see the morons chuckling as Trump takes the rightward LIV voters and the nations last chance to avoid a socialist hell disappears. Because they sure showed those RINOs!

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  80. This “anti-establishment” fixation is a substitute for analyzing someone’s actual positions on things anyway.

    It’s pretty much the Beavis and Butthead contingent cheering Trump on. Not a lot of consideration of cause and effect. If the “RINOs” are horrified, it must be good.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  81. Yes like the Senate vote on planned parenthood, winning.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  82. Let’s see if I get this debate point correct.

    The Senate refused to defund Planned Parenthood!
    Therefore, we need to elect a President who has declared he wants to fund Planned Parenthood!
    That’ll teach the enemies!

    John Hitchcock (e5f961)

  83. hf, define tasking please. I’m curious.

    BobStewartathome (97a232)

  84. This is where he favored and opposed the flat tax in the same interview. It was last month, not yesterday as I thought.

    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said he was open to the flat tax Monday before denouncing its central premise, all within the the span of a minute.

    “You can have fair tax, you can have flat tax, you can take the existing plans that we have and simplify…” Trump said during an appearance on Fox & Friends. “We’re going to simplify; that’s the easiest in terms of getting it done. Later on if we go to a flat tax, that’s something else.”

    So Trump is at least open to the flat tax. But when pressed on the specifics by Fox’s Steve Doocy, Trump immediately started dismissing it.

    “Well, the magic number is a very complicated number. I’ve seen them from 15% to 20%, nobody knows if it works,” he said.

    “The one problem I have with the flat tax is that rich people are paying the same as people that are making very little money,” he said. “And I think there should be a graduation of some kind. Because as you make a certain amount of money, I think you should have to graduate upward.”

    To be clear, the “graduation” that Trump refers to is more commonly known as a progressive tax rate… which is literally the opposite of a flat tax.

    He can probably continue to get away this flip flopping now, but in the general his Democrat opponent would combine with the media to make him look, uh, dishonest.

    Gerald A (949d7d)

  85. #68 My Pope is a jackass.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  86. I said it after the last debate and now I will repeat: that was Trumps high water mark and now we will watch the slide. He keeps talking and either nothing substantial comes out or he says something rude and foolish about a Republican opponent. That helps no one and makes him look weak. All candidates and I mean all should say bad things only about Hillary!. If someone asks the time all Republicans should say in unity: Where’s the emails? Forget about where Cruz was born of if Fiorina liked obamacare years ago. That doesn’t matter, they’re both better than Hillary!. Beat up Debbie whatadope-shultz, not Republicans.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  87. Trump has zero, zilch, nada, nothing when it comes to Conservative bonafides.

    If an innate reaction regarding the controversy of illegal immigration reflects either a leftist or rightist orientation — and assuming a liberal bias makes one very permissive towards and touchy-feely about people squeezing through the border (certainly the southern one, tied to a long-dysfunctional neighbor), and a conservative bias makes one the opposite way — then it’s not correct to say that Trump is “zero, zilch, nada” when it comes to conservative sentiment, defining that as also meaning “bonafides.”

    Mark (f713e4)

  88. Team republican has no clue what a conservative is.

    mg (31009b)

  89. The leaders of team republican are more commie than Trump.

    mg (31009b)

  90. The leaders of team republican enjoy performing ——– on obama.

    mg (31009b)

  91. What a lousy group of hacks team r has created. Pelosi democrats is what they are.

    mg (31009b)

  92. And the shills that keep voting for them, well they have no conscience.

    mg (31009b)

  93. Sorry folks, but I’m with Mark Levin on this one. The fix is in.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/conservative-radio-host-mark-levin-establishment-media-wants-to-take-down-trump-prop-up-carly-audio/

    I won’t join in on the Trump bashing. Why? Because no matter what, he’ll be a damned sight better than any democrat at the job of POTUS. I’ll vote for the republican nominee no matter what, but Scott Walker has proven that the loyalty pledge they had Donald sign applies to thee and not to me — only Ted Cruz has been cool about not jumping on the bash bandwagon. The media’s treatment of Trump (especially Fox AND yes, Megyn Kelly) is making me want to root for Trump all the way, just to get even with them.

    School Marm (f96753)

  94. yet republicans would not have any viewer numbers if it wasn’t due to the hot-button topics Trump used in his campaign kickoff. Carson is also increasing in the polls due to being farther right then Trump on muslims.

    isn’t this what the republicans wanted? to cross over and break out, and get voters from across the spectrum? seems like Trump and Carson are doing just that.

    @Gerald A (949d7d) for posting “Trump supports continued Planned Parenthood funding. I don’t know how that fits into anti-establishment. This “anti-establishment” fixation is a substitute for analyzing someone’s actual positions on things anyway.”

    that is not true. Trump in the last debate agreed Planned Parenthood deserved to be defunded.

    those who fail to see Trump or Carson voters as simply “crazy” or “nuts” of “Trumpeteers” simply miss the whole point of what is bothering so many people, left or right or middle, with a government that is not looking out for America & our traditional & timeless values.

    Trump stated his policies and he gets insulted. The media, whether its Fox or CNN, did not show the insulters as negative, but instead when Trump punches back, its Trump who is the “bully”. Will CNN and Fox’s negative representation of Trump effect his poll numbers? sure it will. Will it come to derail becoming the nominee? only time will tell.

    one thing is true: the left and neo-right, whether its politicians or new networks, both seem to hate & despise Trump. I don’t think i have ever seen such hatred. Its astonishing whenever McCain disagrees with a politician, he call them or their supporters “crazy” or “nuts” and yet no one is allowed to insult him back and call him out on his less then brave military career. McCain was and is horrible in his lack of support for veterans and MIAs. yet he gets pass as a “War hero”.

    what i want to know is, those politicians and news networks who hate Trump: how come you never looked at your own actions and how you both have ruined the USA over the last 25-50 years? You have caused the USA to be buried in debt and over run with illegals and yet the new satan is Trump.

    Time will tel if the left and right politicians and news networks who hate Trump, if their vision of this new USA will survive and if the voting public will vote in a candidate who wishes to continue destruction of a once great country’s freedoms and constitutional foundation.

    FOX may allow the hate but once Trump punches back Ailes seems to want a meeting with Trump to ask him for forgiveness.

    yeah Trump is the the gift that keeps on giving. A lot of us feel he can give the whole country a lot of the positive growth he has given his own fortunes as well as those of TV networks who say they hate him but then beg his forgiveness when he decides to walk away from them.

    Be nice of these multi-billion dollar news corporations give some of the increase review that Trump helps generate for them to the wounded veterans. you know? or is that just too hateful of a concept for left & neo-right wing news corps to give donations to wounded soldiers and people who are society’s weakest since they have become injured? especially since CNN and Fox gives donations to Planned Parenthood who kills babies and sells their body parts for profit.

    Hypocrites and satanists. whether its Fox of CNN.

    cheers

    Lu (1e9901)

  95. cheers, Lu.

    mg (31009b)

  96. Who has thinner skin: Trump or Trump supporters? Reading the whinefest from both him and the sycophants, it’s really hard to tell.

    “Team republican has no clue what a conservative is.”

    Neither do Trump supporters. Unless, of course, supporting single payer (as Trump did at the Fox debate) is a new conservative position I’m unaware of. Oh, well, at least Trump doesn’t have a history of being a life-long Democrat or supporting Democratic candidates. Oh, wait…

    “Because no matter what, he’ll be a damned sight better than any democrat at the job of POTUS.”

    Yeah, the life-long Democrat with a history of backing liberal positions and candidates will clearly be better than any Democrat at the job of POTUS. Uh-huh. Sure. By the way, you wouldn’t be interested in buying a bridge, would you?

    “only Ted Cruz has been cool about not jumping on the bash bandwagon”

    But only because Cruz is desperately sucking up to Trump supporters.

    “The media’s treatment of Trump (especially Fox AND yes, Megyn Kelly) is making me want to root for Trump all the way, just to get even with them.”

    Supporting someone solely because some other people criticized him? Congrats, you just demonstrated you don’t have the maturity to be allowed anywhere near a voting booth.

    “that is not true. Trump in the last debate agreed Planned Parenthood deserved to be defunded.”

    But in the immediate fallout of the issue, he was the only GOP candidate to oppose defunding Planned Parenthood. But hey, what’s important is that he flip-flopped out of political convenience. That’s always the sign of a politician you can trust, right? Right?

    “Trump stated his policies and he gets insulted.”

    Correction: “Trump states half-formed policies that he refuses to explain how he’d implement and then whines like a baby whenever he’s criticized about it.”

    “Its astonishing whenever McCain disagrees with a politician, he call them or their supporters “crazy” or “nuts” and yet no one is allowed to insult him back and call him out on his less then brave military career.”

    So, criticizing those who insult McCain’s war record is “not allowing” someone to insult him back? You might want to familiarize yourself with the First Amendment sometime, pal. You can say what you want, but others can disagree with you all they want. See, that’s the inherent problem with Trump and his gaggle of whiny supporters. They constantly cop the tough talking attitude, but whenever criticized, they whine like little babies and hurl personal insults. (My personal “favorite” is when Trump supporters at Breitbart questioned the patrotism of Tom Cotton–a veteran of both Iraq and Afghanistan–for *suggesting* Trump apologize for what he said about McCain’s POW record.) You guys are no different than Obama and his supporters.

    Hey, free piece of advice to Trump: if you don’t wanna be criticized for your stupid comments and laughable debate performance, don’t run for president.

    And, here’s a free piece of advice to Trump supporters: if you don’t like seeing dissenting viewpoints, then get off social media. I’ll tell you what I’ve told whiny liberals in the past: the rest of us weren’t put on this Earth to coddle you, so grow up and learn to accept that not everyone will agree with you. Seems like an obvious lesson, but no one could ever accuse Trump supporters of grasping the obvious.

    “what i want to know is, those politicians and news networks who hate Trump: how come you never looked at your own actions and how you both have ruined the USA over the last 25-50 years? You have caused the USA to be buried in debt and over run with illegals and yet the new satan is Trump.”

    Aw, it’s cute how Trump supporters deflect hard enough to pull a muscle. By the by, if you have such a problem with the policies you mention, feel free to criticize that life-long Democrat who backed numerous Democrats throughout his life: Donald Trump. Or is that somehow different for a reason that Trump supporters will refuse to explain?

    tops116 (d094f8)

  97. We keep hearing about what a low-life Trump the ‘Entertainer’ is and, indeed, comparison with Reagan the ‘Communicator’ bears mightily on that point.

    He simply for the interim owns our enemy the media and we are jealous and perplexed.

    But what a out the sociopathic parasites infesting Federal, State and Local governments, our real and manifest problem?

    SQUIRRRELLLLL!!! Amerikkka you are rife with dipshits.

    DNF (4c8b73)

  98. 87. Right on, bro!

    I love all this sanctimonius pretense that the choice between majors has any import whatever.

    The sole indication I’ve seen that America will not simply roll over and die was made at the Bundy ranch.

    DNF (4c8b73)

  99. I can’t believe the Dope was a chemist.

    DNF (4c8b73)

  100. Just another big-government thug. Nothing to see here, move along. Power Trumps liberty! Liberty does not power Trump… unfortunately.

    Dan S (94f399)

  101. 95. Do you mean the Pope? He has also claimed to have been a doorman at a Buenos Aires nightclub.

    nk (dbc370)

  102. Trump is a carnival barker’s dream of a sideshow. Barack Obama is a scourge visited upon humanity whose actions and inactions will reverberate through the coming decades like a perforated Pep Boys muffler on a ’53 DeSoto. Did that help clear thing up?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  103. This just in… John Boehner will resign at the end of October. What a birthday gift! Thank you, Lord!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  104. #93, LOL.

    I think you doth protest too much.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  105. Boehner resigning from Congress, at the end of October,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  106. Trump is a Big Government uber alles, crony capitalist, ultra-narcissistic Democrat in the Republican Primary.

    John Hitchcock (26066a)

  107. What caused Boehner’s resignation? A desire to spend his golden years with family? Or a real reason?

    John Hitchcock (26066a)

  108. The only thing wrong with line of thinking is:

    A: She in fact didn’t remove part of Trump’s equipment. She may have won the exchange but it was pretty much a non event in any case.

    B: Trump clearly is suggesting that the FCC should intervene because of Lowry’s language not because he attacked Trump.

    Mark Johnson (8f1a28)

  109. thank god

    the first step is admitting you have a problem

    now it’s mcconnellwhore’s turn

    Team R is too corrupt, too stagnant

    time to clean house, and whoever got rid of boehner deserves our every thank you

    happyfeet (831175)

  110. it was a foolish statement on lowry’s side, and trump’s reaction was over the top,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  111. Anon Y. Mous (8ec442) — 9/24/2015 @ 8:58 am Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    I guess it’s going to be a long wait, huh?

    Anon Y. Mous (8ec442)

  112. #106 Ding ding. Winner winner chicken dinner.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  113. Oh come on. You don’t think he’s serious. It’s a bit of obligatory dudgeon bluster, not a real call for FCC discipline.

    SarahW (67599f)

  114. I’ve had more time to reflect upon this post, Patterico, and I’ve gotta say: I expect better from you.

    To say “I want this guy in charge of the FCC. He will make sure it treats all critics of Dear Leader with the governmental retribution they deserve.” and make it seem like Donald will use the federal government to go after his critics like the Obama administration has with the IRS is a stretch.

    One thing you overlook is the possibility that with Trump, he doesn’t hide his disdain or the fact he will use words to assail critics, and thus is honest. So many more people will appear to the public one way, but behind the curtain be another, in other words hiding who they really are which in the world of politics seems to me a far greater sin. Especially when they appear nice in public, but are vipers behind closed doors.

    I know you dislike Trump. But to make that comment with such certainty and not even to phrase it in the conditional has earned you a black mark from me.

    School Marm (f96753)

  115. Hey, School Marm, can I get a black mark from you, too? Please? I promise I won’t make you look any more foolish than you already do to yourself!

    John Hitchcock (0098d2)

  116. Gotta say, when the alleged school marm tries to be condescending toward Patterico, the alleged school marm has to claim Trump is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. In other words, the alleged school marm has just claimed Trump is nothing but bluff and bluster and caca de toro.

    John Hitchcock (0098d2)

  117. If you really are unaware of this stuff, you’re off in your own little world.

    Yes. I don’t subscribe to The Advocate. Never read even one article. Certainly didn’t read it back when Bill Clinton was President. YOU have anything fresh on Trump? From this century I mean.

    Trump came out for socialized medicine that was to the left of Obamacare, and he still thinks it works.

    He supposedly mentioned universal healthcare on Feb 14 2000. That puts Trump to the right of Romney and McCain at least. One sentence from before Bush vs Gore. Global warming hadn’t been invented yet. IN the Advocate, right next to the travel ad for sex tourism in Thialand.

    Trump proposed the largest tax increase in U.S. history. That’s not easy to do, but Trump did.

    Again, from the same old Advocate article, Trump proposed a one time 14.5% tax on the super wealthy combined with the {at that time} government surplus, to pay off the national debt.
    Fourteen percent isn’t even remotely close to the largest tax increase in U.S. history.
    FDR taxed the super wealthy @ 94% on all income over $200K. (BTW that’s the way you are supposed to support an assertion, rather than arm waving and calling your debate opponent a liar repeatedly. Looking at YOU Hitchcock)

    So the Club for Growth was lying when they asserted Trump proposed the largest tax increase in history. < — I call that an impeachment of their entire hit piece.

    Trump not only supported eminent domain to take people’s private property so developers could use it for casinos and amusement parks, he’s tried to do it himself!

    Here is a picture of Vera Coking’s part time vacation home – it’s the little one sitting in the middle of the parking lot.

    Trump jumped on board with Obama’s tax-the-rich mantra, dismissing a flat tax because he wants rates that “graduate upward.” Note to Donald: that’s the system we have in place.

    This is odd. Even the Club for Growth’s lying article from before doesn’t support this assertion. I guess the author of the letter quoted by Powerline was padding his laundry list for ascetic purposes.

    Trump doesn’t just saber-rattle about trade wars, he wants to take up the sword and rush the U.S. into massive trade wars with huge tariffs that would be a devastating tax on American businesses and consumers.

    To match the massive tariffs imposed on our goods by Asia. And wouldn’t it be nice to have a negotiator in the ring on our side for a change. Rather than bought out crunts like the Clintons or Obama.

    Donald Trump poses as anti-establishment. But that’s exactly the problem. He’s posing, just like the reality star he is. Playing a part for the sake of an audience – he really is the worst kind of politician.

    Have you been paying attention to current events? The establishment of Obama is pretty dead set against you and me being given a fair shake or even a chance to prosper. If you work for this establishment in a foreign office, chances are good, if it helps them politically, you could be killed by a mob, without the establishment lifting a finger to help.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  118. I didn’t take her comments as condescending but as concerned. I’m not a Trump supporter and Patterico isn’t either, and I think Trump went too far saying Lowry should be fined by the FCC. That does suggest he will use government to get back at people, so this post makes a fair point.

    However, I think it’s also a fair point to say that — even though we disagreed with his policies — many people gave Obama the benefit of the doubt regarding his intentions when he was running/elected. If that seems fair, then we should do the same for Trump.

    DRJ (521990)

  119. Yeah I’m not a fan.

    DNF (4c8b73)

  120. 108. Well, I have company at any rate.

    DNF (4c8b73)

  121. When she refused Mr. Trump’s initial offers, the city’s Casino Reinvestment Development Authority became involved in 1996 and a three-year eminent domain saga ensued, pitting Mr. Trump against a woman who proved as feisty as he was. The city assessed the value of the property at only $251,000, but it never got the chance to seize it. Along with two other holdouts, a pawnshop and an Italian restaurant called Sabatini’s, Ms. Coking prevailed in State Supreme Court, which ruled the city had no right to take the properties for the purported public use of a new casino.

    She continued to turn away suitors for the property even after the decision. She was not completely opposed to selling, but whatever price she had in mind, no one could ever meet it, including Mr. Trump, who recalled offering as much as $4 million as well as a room for life at any of his properties. Mr. Casey said the most he remembered Mr. Trump offering was $1.9 million. “He never made her a real offer,” Mr. Casey said. “He just tried to steal it.”

    Tried to “steal” a property by offering five times what it eventually sold for at auction. Donald Trump.
    Damn right he deserves the benefit of a doubt.

    #noclassRichLowry #NotReadyForPrimetimeLowry #PaytheFineFox

    पापेर्टिगेर (c2d6da)

  122. many people gave Obama the benefit of the doubt regarding his intentions when he was running/elected.

    I recall a bit of controversy in this very forum back in 2009 when Patterico said he thought that Obama was a “good man.” I rolled my eyes at that particular assertion since nothing about the guy’s background suggested he was any more “good” — and, if anything, was probably less good — than the average person, than any run-of-the-mill sap or schlub walking amongst humanity.

    Mark (f713e4)

  123. Tried to “steal” a property by offering five times what it eventually sold for at auction.

    When you take a child’s bicycle away from her but give her a 100 dollar bill, you still stole it, because it wasn’t for sale.

    John Hitchcock (9708e8)

  124. And this auction you mention. Was it an estate auction?

    John Hitchcock (9708e8)

  125. पापेर्टिगेर Papertiger in Hindi

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  126. The difference is Trump didn’t actually take it from Mrs. Coking, or for that matter the other two properties joined in the suit. If not for her heir’s selling it at auction Mrs Coking would still own it.
    Donald Trump paid the others the same $4 million he had offered Mrs Coking, for their two properties.

    So there is iron in his word for all to see.

    There’s a picture of Vera Coking’s house sitting right in the middle of Trump’s business. Safe for Christian commerce.

    Reminds me of Batteries Not Included.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  127. You suppose they raise pidgeons?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  128. I’ll tell ya what else he’s got. He’s got the attitude I want on and off the field. So somebody here better tell me why I shouldn’t be giving Trump a hell of a look!

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  129. Our parents would not have been able to stop laughing at the suggestion that someone like Trump could hope to become President. But rats and roaches don’t thrive in clean houses, only in dirty ones. We, that’s you all and me, have really let this poor country become a two-dollar whorehouse.

    nk (dbc370)

  130. But it’s the most fake laugh I’ve ever heard.

    Your parents voted for FDR, several times. Jimmy Carter. Richard Nixon. Lyndon Johnson. Harry Truman. Bill Clinton.
    Barack Obama.
    Stop laughing. It’s not funny.

    papertiger (c2d6da)


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