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8/26/2015

This, From An “Impartial” Media?

Filed under: General — Dana @ 6:39 am



[guest post by Dana]

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Reporting with complete independence, just like Jorge Ramos reassured us he would do upon disclosing that his daughter works for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign.

–Dana

52 Responses to “This, From An “Impartial” Media?”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. Ramos jumped the line – like an illegal alien! – and got hammered for it.

    Not seeing any black mark against Trump here.

    alanstorm (cb237b)

  3. Why should a mainstream media outlet be “impartial” when dealing with a xenophobic, pandering buffoon? Should we be “impartial” when we discuss Alex Jones or Michael Savage?

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  4. Note the comment, asking how long the GOP will allow Mr Trump to do this. The GOP doesn’t control the candidates, and shouldn’t.

    The Dana who supports free elections (f6a568)

  5. #4 Aye Carlitos ve tomar por las nalgas. Que come pinga. So why should the media hide all the negative effects of illegal immigration? Which they do willfully. If one side is “Xenophobic” then the other are Anarchists and Welfare-istas.

    #3 And I have said before, Megyn Kelly is very liberal. She does partake in lefty gotcha questioning and “said it here first” Fox is messing with its franchise if they allow it to continue. All you need to go back and review for confirmation is her coverage of the LGBT issues.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  6. Carlitos,

    The impartial media, with its comment, took sides with Ramos by demanding the GOP stop this sort of behavior from its candidates. That is not their job and they wouldn’t do that if they were, indeed, impartial. They objected to Trump putting Ramos in his place while ignoring that Ramos is a biased shill for illegal immigration.

    Dana (58d6da)

  7. Dana – biased shill gives Ramos and Univision way too much credit. How much of their $ have they used to line Dem pockets? His daughter works for Hillary. They ought to rename the network.

    JD (d1fc85)

  8. No, of course the GOP shouldn’t demand that its candidates stop xenophobic idiocy. Great point. The party has rules for primaries and caucuses but God forbid they could command common sense that their candidates don’t demonize 15% of the electorate. This kind of genius management of a political party is what lets me tear up the envelope when the “survey” fund-raising mailers arrive in my mailbox.

    The Republican Party has been committing suicide for what, 10 years? Why stop now?

    Replace “illigal immigrants” with “welfare queens” or “jews” and tell me that this isn’t the same old BS from Trump.

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  9. All you need to go back and review for confirmation is her coverage of the LGBT issues.

    How about her Name ? It took me a while to get over that. Obviously, she had a radical fem parent.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  10. they could command common sense that their candidates don’t demonize 15% of the electorate.

    Wait a minute ! 15% of the electorate is illegal ?

    Good to know. This is typical lunatic rhetoric.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  11. Recently, I have found myself disagreeing more and more with carlitos. But on this one, he is right. The GOP should be out in front pointing out that they cannot keep someone from claiming to be Team R, and running in their primary, but pointedly showing how Trump is anything but Team R, much less conservative.

    JD (34f761)

  12. Ramos wasn’t being a journalist asking a question. He was engaging in political activism. Grandstanding. A journalist doesn’t make himself the story. A journalist covers the event.

    If Ramos wants to engage in political activism on behalf of illegal invaders, he is free to do so. He can even try to do it at a Trump event. But Trump is under no obligation to allow a grandstanding pretend journalist with a political agenda upstage him at his own event. Trump was right to have him escorted out. He probably should not have let him in later, but I understand why he did.

    Scott (6d92d8)

  13. Thanks JD. Looking at the supporters of Ron / Rand Paul, I doubt that I’m the only social liberal / fiscal conservative in the GOP tent. In a perfect world, I’d have a party that reflected my views.

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  14. This happened in my backyard. Ramos crossed a line and suffered a time out. When he learned to behave he was allowed back in. This was a metafor for what Trump would do with Illegals. Deport them until they can conform to the laws on the books.

    There were several eye witnesses here at work this am. Most media reports are wrong. Even Laura Ingraham is wrong about this event being in Des Moines, it wasn’t. It was in Dubuque, a Democrat armpit of Iowa filled with leftists and union goons.

    If this had been Hillary instead of Trump, puto Ramos would still be in the hospital.

    PCD (39058b)

  15. It’s more than a little disturbing how folks here think that name-calling in Spanish is OK.

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  16. Nor should the media be trying to pressure the GOP to “control” that which they disapprove of. And if it was “ethical”, why delete the tweet??

    Dana (58d6da)

  17. Carlos, don’t engage in it yourself.

    And, my Korean daughter is looking for a piece of Jeb herself. The kid is a mechanic and is deadly with wrenches.

    PCD (39058b)

  18. It’s more than a little disturbing how folks here think that name-calling in Spanish is OK.

    carlitos (c24ed5) — 8/26/2015 @ 8:25 am
    …………..

    Carlos, don’t engage in it yourself.

    PCD (39058b) — 8/26/2015 @ 8:27 am

    If I called people names in Spanish, I apologize.

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  19. What I don’t understand is the fact that many very smart, very savvy people, don’t understand that we don’t need a Snuggle Bunny in the White House. I don’t care how arrogant, egotistical, or rude someone is. If he understands what made America great, and if he understands that Obama has been a disaster, then the rest is just window dressing.

    Mark Johnson (df77f2)

  20. Carlitos wrote:

    No, of course the GOP shouldn’t demand that its candidates stop xenophobic idiocy. Great point. The party has rules for primaries and caucuses but God forbid they could command common sense that their candidates don’t demonize 15% of the electorate. This kind of genius management of a political party is what lets me tear up the envelope when the “survey” fund-raising mailers arrive in my mailbox.

    How, exactly, could the GOP set rules that would compel candidates to obey? What authority does the Republican National Committee have to stifle Donald Trump, or any other candidate?

    Conspiracy theories about the “Republican establishment” aside, the nomination will go to the man who wins the majority of the delegates in the primaries, and there’s nothing the RNC can do to change that.

    The Dana who supports free elections (f6a568)

  21. I do it for the sake of variety and not to overuse the English swearwords. Also “pinche cabron” does not translate well into English.

    nk (dbc370)

  22. For once someone in the room was even moor boorish than Trump!

    Mitch (341ca0)

  23. 4.Why should a mainstream media outlet be “impartial” when dealing with a xenophobic, pandering buffoon? Should we be “impartial” when we discuss Alex Jones or Michael Savage?

    The media should give the same benefit of the doubt to them that it gives to Al Gore, Al Sharpton, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders. I could go on but you get the idea.

    DRJ (1dff03)

  24. Every time I see someone call Republicans xenophobes because Republicans prefer the Rule of Law over illegal aliens (who are committing crimes just by being here), I imagine a very high-pitched squeaky little voice with no power but a lot of whine. Calling me a xenophobe has less effect than calling me a black-hater. May as well call me a Jew-lover while you’re at it. Your pejoratives fall on deaf ears.

    John Hitchcock (f61b9f)

  25. To put it a little more clearly, Carlitos, take your wiffle ball and go home. I’m playing Jai Alai.

    John Hitchcock (f61b9f)

  26. And SocLib FisCon is an impossibility. The Social Liberalism will destroy budgets, thus destroying fiscally Conservative intentions.

    John Hitchcock (f61b9f)

  27. Carlitos and Ramos want this subject being off limits.We Americans are tired of the crowded schools, overrun ERs, chronic underemployment and the crime wave. ENOUGH. ANd Ramos further showed himself to be smug,self-entitled line0-cutting jerk who doesn’t think the rules apply to him-a microcosm of the illegal immigration issue. Further Trump did let him back in, talked to him and exposed him for the utter embarrassment he is. Are we going to have a border and rules, or do we simply let Jorge Ramos and the illegals do what ever they want?

    Bugg (137ba5)

  28. In a perfect world, I’d have a party that reflected my views.

    In a perfect world the human mind would not be capable of twisting itself into needing a party that reflected diametrically opposite views. But in this imperfect world we still have dissociative identity disorder for the individual.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  29. Carlitos, take your wiffle ball and go home. I’m playing Jai Alai.

    Carlitos and Ramos want this subject being off limits.

    But in this imperfect world we still have dissociative identity disorder for the individual.

    Very mature, well-reasoned responses to my post. Socially liberal and fiscally conservative is such a crazy idea, really?

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  30. DRJ @24, it’s a nice thought, but carlitos will never get the idea.

    Getting the idea is a foreign thought to him.

    The people who gave us Barack Obama did so while charging Republicans of being guilty of accusing Obama of “guilt by association.” It was evidently the worst thing in the world to accuse Obama of remotely thinking like the people he hung out with.

    Now those same people are demanding we all take responsibility for every word Donald Trump utters.

    Steve57 (3b2e7d)

  31. socially liberal and fiscally conservative ftw

    as opposed to yucky so-cons

    god bless America I love the 80s as much as anyone but moveon.org hello

    happyfeet (831175)

  32. Billions for brothels, not a penny for bureaucrats?

    nk (dbc370)

  33. utopia!

    happyfeet (831175)

  34. Actually, when you say it I believe it, happyfeet. That’s libertarian, really.

    Sorry, carlitos. I do believe you would not want to slut-shame unwed mothers, but I also believe you would want to give them Section 8, ADC and EBT cards

    nk (dbc370)

  35. 4.Why should a mainstream media outlet be “impartial” when dealing with a xenophobic, pandering buffoon? Should we be “impartial” when we discuss Alex Jones or Michael Savage?

    Because neither Jones nor Savage are running for President. How can a “reporter” report the facts if the viewing public believes him to be a party hack? Especially in a presidential race.

    Socially liberal and fiscally conservative is such a crazy idea, really?

    Yes. It’s either insane or total cognitive dissonance to believe the costs of the social policies put forward by socially liberal people could ever be fiscally conservative. The two are mutually exclusive. Regardless of how you try and belittle the answer.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  36. Actually, it’s a mark of immaturity to say we’re xenophobes for wanting people to actually, you know, obey and enforce the, you know, law, like, totally.

    Nimrods and their nimrod demands that others quit being nimrods don’t get to define what it means to be a nimrod.

    John Hitchcock (b0a1d2)

  37. I object to the misuse of the name Nimrod.

    Genesis 10

    8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

    9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

    10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

    The only reason we know the name Nimrod is that the Bible mentions him. And the Bible mentions him as a mighty warrior, hunter, and king. And now for some reason his name is synonymous with screw up.

    Sad, really.

    Steve57 (3b2e7d)

  38. Carlitos ni sabe espanol … llamarlo un come pinga es lo minimo, lo mas problematico es que es un imbecile.
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    Carlitos when is it xenophobic to demand folks enter a country legally or for that matter that same Country deny citizenship to anyone born in that country?

    If that is Xenophobia then the most xenophobic are …. well.. everybody since I think only two countries allow for children of foreign citizens to be automatically given citizenship status.

    And if you are talking Xenophobic go look at Mexicans who are the most xenophobic folks in all of Latin America. Never have a I met a group so blindly anti-US and so hypocritical on this matter. And racist? Wooooooooo, polite, respected Company in Mexico make our KKK look like Mother Teresa.

    Bottom line is 80% of the people coming here from the Americas are looking for handouts and are parasites. The fact they get here and some can’t live on the dole is a god-send since they have to work. But when you look at the Latins who came here LEGALLY and the amount of welfare consumption — ouch.

    And for the record, I am son of legal immigrants but truth to power since I grew up surrounded by many of these maggots and I 100% support tossing away the trash while also denying citizenship rights in any way to those here, who are not to be. F*u and get in the back of the line is my response. Learn english too.

    But I digress from polite dialogue.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  39. Huh! And all these years I thought Nimrod was a rapper.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  40. So what’s the deal? The leftists have so overused the word “racist” that it’s lost all meaning so now they’re gonna do the same for “xenophobe”?

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  41. Ramos attempted to prevent others from speaking and was escorted out of the room. He returned in the order he was called and invited to pose his questions.

    n.n (b378dc)

  42. #41, Uh, yes.

    Xenophobe — to care about protecting the laws of one’s Country at the expense of people from other Countries braking their laws and those same law breakers DEMANDING free shit, perks and rights which they have never earned.

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  43. breaking ….

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)

  44. The fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans is our penchant for self-flagellation. There is no principle better understood by Democrats, nor more poorly understood by Republicans than this simple truism. There is a big, red, flashing Republican self-flagellation button that calls out to Democrats “Push me! Push me again! And again, please!” This year’s model (for the time being, at least) is the Trump button. First it was the “Trump’s a racist” button. Then it was the “Trump’s is a sexist” button. Next week I’m expecting it to be a “Trump’s a wife-beater” or “Trump’s a child molester” button. The worst part of this unfortunate dynamic is the willingness of those in our own party to jump on board. The dutiful White Knights of the GOP are beside themselves to get in line to do their own button pushing. So the button pushing goes on and on and on.

    Does this dynamic surprise you? It shouldn’t. It’s Alinsky #13: ““Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.”

    Will we ever get The Donald on the record about his support for his very liberal positions on guns, Single Payer, Pro Socialist tax structure, Pro Big Government, and, quite frankly, his being a lot like Obama/Clinton? (Thank you, John Hitchcock). Probably not, because asking him such questions would undermine the hysteria whipped up by all those button pushers. This is the beauty of #13. The good news, if there is any, is that in the case of Trump there has been a remarkable Archie Bunker, reverse othering effect.

    Now ask yourselves this: “Have I ever seen Democrats act so self-destructively?” I can’t think of a single instance. Can you? The simple truth is that there is no equivalent behavior on the Left. If I had any background at all in psychology, I’d be asking myself why Republicans are such self-destructive enablers. For the time being, I’m just thankful that there are still some in the party who can see the attacks of Kelly, Ramos and many, many others for what they are and respond appropriately.

    ThOR (a52560)

  45. 40. Huh! And all these years I thought Nimrod was a rapper.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 8/26/2015 @ 1:00 pm

    Yes, most people think that. I almost feel bad breaking the news to them.

    I usually start out with, “You’re going to have to sit down…”

    Steve57 (3b2e7d)

  46. Carlitos asked:

    Socially liberal and fiscally conservative is such a crazy idea, really?

    Socially libertarian and fiscally conservative could work, but not socially liberal and fiscally conservative. The libertarian believes that people ought to be able to do whatever they want, and bear the consequences and responsibility for their actions individually; the social liberal believes that people ought to be able to do whatever they want, but the consequences for their actions are borne by society, and there is no individual responsibility at all.

    The Dana who can see the difference (f6a568)

  47. the social liberal believes that people ought to be able to do whatever they want, but the consequences for their actions are borne by society, and there is no individual responsibility at all.

    That’s what I was trying to say but you always do it so much better-er than me.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  48. BTW, Dana The First Street Journal looks great. I was getting those redirects but I knew you’d take care of them and you did. The site is real clean too.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  49. I am no fan of Trump. He is unfit for elected office and would never vote for him, but he was right here. Jorge was out of control. I’ve come to expect the brazen bias, but it’s not he was just clashing back-and-forth with Trump; he was interrupting someone else. No other candidate would tolerate that (except Bernie Sanders, what with his constant mic surrendering whenever #BLM shows up). Like a spoiled child, Jorge deserved to be sent to his room for a little while.

    As for ABC7, what a bunch of biased hacks.

    tops116 (d094f8)

  50. well it was the same network, that kept the Virginia shooter’s manifesto on the down low,

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/08/ugh-jeb-bush-sides-with-jorge-ramos-says-reporters-deserve-a-little-more-respect/

    narciso (ee1f88)

  51. #51 Why I can’t vote for Jeb. Ramos is a Community Organizer, not a journalist. Be nice if he could see forest from trees

    Rodney King's Spirit (ab8c0d)


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