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8/6/2015

Presidential Debate Open Thread: Varsity Team Edition

Filed under: General — Dana @ 4:47 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Let loose the Trump and see what may come.

(I’m going to be watching Cruz and Walker.)

–Dana

198 Responses to “Presidential Debate Open Thread: Varsity Team Edition”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. “two words to describe Hillary Clinton?” Lying Cvnt.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  3. i’m bored with trump i’m not going to watch

    he’s a filthy whore and a new yorker to boot

    that’s not what a pikachu wanna come home to after a hard day at the salt mines

    happyfeet (831175)

  4. Happyfeet,

    The thing I’ve been thinking about is, what if Trump were to actually take the nomination? Then what?

    Dana (86e864)

  5. plus pasty old jeb bush is there probably to see if he can sell any of his $75 guacamole bowls

    75 freaking dollars srsly?

    what probably happened is his wife bought like a thousand of them for $100 on ebay thinking they were priced in pesos

    she had some splainin to do for sure

    happyfeet (831175)

  6. Rumor has it that the GOP big donors have given Rubio his marching orders to take Trump out tonight. Further, “It should also be noted some of these high-powered donors are helping to finance the campaigns of BOTH Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush. Presently, Donald Trump represents the single greatest threat to their intention of controlling the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.”

    Dana (86e864)

  7. Dana he’s already hit his ceiling i think

    that’s what I think

    then I remember how those morons in Minnesota elected Jesse whatever his name was

    he’s SO trashy, Donald Trump is, so it’s scary

    he’s like the quintessential american

    happyfeet (831175)

  8. is anyone live blogging this?

    happyfeet (831175)

  9. Steyn has waxed eloquent on the oligarch and the Medici.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  10. ooh goody national soros radio is

    happyfeet (831175)

  11. Kevin M

    This whole thing feels like a publicity stunt by Fox.

    VladimirPutin

    your mom is a publicity stunt

    happyfeet (831175)

  12. ok yeah the national soros radio losers aren’t gonna git it done for me tonight

    happyfeet (831175)

  13. Loathing team republican as I do, Trump is saying the seven dirty words one once thought were verboten in the not so mighty big tent. Good for him. Cruz and Walker need to have a Seven Game Debate Series. Loser buys the other one dinner. Cruz, Walker, Trump. That is my trifecta as of now. The rest of them should wait for the bus.

    mg (31009b)

  14. oh it doesn’t start for awhile yet?

    ok done and done I’ve lost all patience

    i still get mixered up on my time zone sometimes

    happyfeet (831175)

  15. Loathing team republican as I do, Trump is saying the seven dirty words one once thought were verboten in the not so mighty big tent. Good for him.

    i liked that at first too then i wanted more substance and trump just isn’t very substantive

    happyfeet (831175)

  16. Carly Powah!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  17. happyfeet, the one thing I like about Trump he has asked no one for a red cent. Let him buy it. No one else will.

    mg (31009b)

  18. tThe third party is already in the tent, and it is Trump.

    mg (31009b)

  19. honestly a Team R what can’t beat Trump is pretty obviously not selling anything very enticing

    happyfeet (831175)

  20. I would be watching, but I can’t find a bar that’s showing it and Fox isn’t letting you watch it online if you don’t have a cable subscription. So I’ll read a book instead.

    aphrael (c4a2c9)

  21. Try the radio. I recall that opinion on who won the debate between Clinton and GHW Bush was split between those who saw it on TV – they mostly thought Clinton won – and those who listened to it on radio thought Bush won.

    ropelight (c7944e)

  22. After the sideshow ends, comes a real candidate worth support…
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ken-shepherd/2015/08/06/carly-fiorina-pushes-back-against-chris-matthews-hardball

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  23. Meanwhile I’m reading an old but fascinating exchange about what the historical evidence says about the assasination of Hypatia, versus how people know it from Carl Sagan and a movie called Agora.

    Milhouse (a04cc3)

  24. It’s already a circus, two minutes into it.

    Dana (86e864)

  25. Did trump just call. Kelly…..

    Epwj (adb563)

  26. Cruz? Does he have any position?

    Epwj (adb563)

  27. “The thing I’ve been thinking about is, what if Trump were to actually take the nomination? Then what?”

    Getting cuckservatives out of the GOP leadership can only help.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  28. where’s captain donald been all this time

    why didn’t he help stop the cuckadoodle infestation before it reached critical mass

    oh that’s right he was busy shoveling money at the Clinton$

    happyfeet (831175)

  29. He can’t even get himself a decent toupee. Or rid of that c*cksucker duckface pout when he talks.

    nk (dbc370)

  30. Trump the clown

    Epwj (2641ee)

  31. “My fortune is huge. My ideas are huge. I will build a huge wall.”

    – Donald Trump

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  32. The FOX moderators are out to pull a Candy Crawley on The Donald.

    ropelight (c7944e)

  33. The thing I’ve been thinking about is, what if Trump were to actually take the nomination? Then what?

    Then, assuming I’m not busy that day, I’ll vote for him and Hillary (or Biden or the Commie) will still win.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  34. Except the Fox mods are not answering the questions, not telling lies, not picking a candidate. Other than that, yep just like Candy.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  35. “The third party is already in the tent, and it is Trump.”

    In all seriousness, it needs it. This mad Rovian seeking the Hispanic vote, not standing firm against excessive immigration, so that the GOP can get, perhaps, 40% of the new voters’ votes… is politically suicidal madness.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  36. “The FOX moderators are out to pull a Candy Crawley on The Donald.”

    Yes. Yes, they are.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  37. He can’t even get himself a decent toupee. Or rid of that c*cksucker duckface pout when he talks.

    nk (dbc370) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:26 pm

    That’s actually his hair combed over.

    Gerald A (949d7d)

  38. “He can’t even get himself a decent toupee.”

    Law of supply and demand, sir. His is one of a kind!

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  39. #11: Hunh?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  40. “That’s actually his hair combed over.”

    As I said, he gets things done.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  41. Christy ended rands run

    Epwj (388ca2)

  42. “That’s actually his hair combed over.”

    As I said, he gets things done.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  43. oh that was a for reals quote from the dippy npr chat

    different Kevin M

    happyfeet (831175)

  44. Forgive duplicate comment. Getting pretty excited about President Trump over here.

    Business acumen without war-madness. I like the sound of that!

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  45. Listening to Christi and Paul go at it! Not pretty to me.

    felipe (56556d)

  46. Admittedly, Ted Cruz is making sense on “radical” Islam. Of course, Donald Trump makes even more sense.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  47. the young whelp has infiltrated teh ranks…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. I see that Trump is spending money here.

    I turned on the debate to see if Trump was going to behave. Instead, he came to act out. I’m surprised he hasn’t peed on the stage, he’s so over the top offensive.

    What a colossal a*hole. Why would we want a second egotistical sociopath in the WH? Isn’t one bad enough.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  49. Sounds exciting. Too bad I can’t watch =(

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  50. Frankly, he should either take the pledge or the GOP ought to take away his free air time. In fact, I’d demand a binding contract with a $100 million breach clause.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  51. “Frankly, he should either take the pledge or the GOP ought to take away his free air time. In fact, I’d demand a binding contract with a $100 million breach clause.”

    Same standard for every other GOP candidate, even if Trump wins?

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  52. Trump was right on Iraq.

    I was wrong (it is what it is). Trump was right.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  53. Scott Walker’s right: Hillary Clinton has the bad touch.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  54. God-based tax system.—Ben Carson

    Originally that was meant to be criticism, but it couldn’t be worse than what’s in place now.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  55. I liked when Carson answered the question about whether he would bring back water boarding and he said he didn’t think it was a good idea to tell the enemy what we would be doing. So unlike our current president who is inclined to giving our enemies a heads up.

    Dana (86e864)

  56. Dejectedhead go here

    .

    felipe (56556d)

  57. I know it’s a combover. He must have destroyed half the ozone layer with the hairspray over the years. Did he really get Ivana to reduce her breasts? Cos that’s so like “What, are you nuts?”

    nk (dbc370)

  58. I was disappointed with Megyn Kelly going the war on women route.

    Dana (86e864)

  59. just started watching a few (20) minutes ago. Entertaining. Just noticed I haven’t seen any Cruz, Christie is just in the side shots and Paul I only saw in a spat with Trump. I’m assuming I missed a bit in the first 30 minutes. I do like Rubio, but I think it perhaps is I have the same personality or just can relate to him more.

    G (6a553a)

  60. Jeb humps his book?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  61. “I was disappointed with Megyn Kelly going the war on women route.”

    I agree, Dana.

    Celebrity/straight talking/presumed charisma and power/track record, etc., aside, I think Donald Trump’s main appeal is:

    – traditional, pre-neocon (which hasn’t worked out so well) Republican position of being pro-business, including protectionism, border control, etc., but not into war, reflexively
    – on immigration again, it really is an existential question: if not for the nation (and it is), then sure as h-ck for the GOP’s political future; like it or not, the GOP is not going to dominate the Hispanic and third-world immigrant vote. Nope.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  62. I’m so upset with Megyn I’m declaring a Global Chubwa on her, Dana!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  63. #59, Dana, me too and I’ve been talkin’ her up lately. I was wrong, she’s not fair or balanced.

    ropelight (c7944e)

  64. I’m also pro-border control, protectionist, anti-interventionist, and anti-war. And I still have most of my hair (receding at the widow’s peak). But you definitely do not want me as President, trust me on this.

    nk (dbc370)

  65. She’s serious one night and delirious the next. She hasn’t worn well… and yet I find it hard to take my eyes off her.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  66. “I’m also pro-border control, protectionist, anti-interventionist, and anti-war. And I still have most of my hair (receding at the widow’s peak). But you definitely do not want me as President, trust me on this.”

    Ha ha. Choose a good running mate, and I’d choose you over a neo-con. And I’m a reformed neo-con.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  67. Thanks Felipe. Unfortunately I tune in and see Chris Christie. Bleh.

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  68. Trump gets this full Gorbachev look on his face like he’s listening to a translation of something.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  69. Try the radio. I recall that opinion on who won the debate between Clinton and GHW Bush was split between those who saw it on TV – they mostly thought Clinton won – and those who listened to it on radio thought Bush won.

    I’ve never read that before. If so, it mirrors what happened in the Kennedy/Nixon debates in 1960, which was when TV (or live broadcast images thereof) was still not as ascendant over radio as would be the case years later. It illustrates the power of the superficial over the substantial.

    At this moment, the only Republican I’m having an increasingly visceral dislike for is Jeb Bush. Nonetheless, if a field as far reaching as the one representing the Republican Party and, to varying degrees, the rightwing, cannot win over the garbage of Hillary and what-not, then America truly is going to end up a cross between the world’s biggest banana republic and quasi-Third World, in the form of a Mexico or Puerto Rico.

    A bright future, indeed.

    Mark (78b181)

  70. “I tune in and see Chris Christie. Bleh.”

    Tell me about it. Them’s the breaks.

    felipe (56556d)

  71. Rubio non answer.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  72. Trump is kicking tail.

    Carson and Cruz are doing very well.

    Paul crushed Christie.

    Rubio and Bush should both call it a day and catch the next flight to Del Boca Vista Phase 2.

    Bugg (5f4a83)

  73. Trump is fun to watch! This is what celebrity over substance looks like. I think the Donald is affecting some of the other candidates.

    felipe (56556d)

  74. But you definitely do not want me as President, trust me on this.

    I doubt you’d be any worse than the deranged character now occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Mark (78b181)

  75. What the hell is going on with Walker’s hair? Bald works for Michael Jordan and Sean Connery. WTF?

    Bugg (5f4a83)

  76. Hard to argue with Rubio on killing Dodd–Frank.

    (Well, not literally. You know.)

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  77. Obama-huggin’, Krispy Kreme demolishin’ Chris Christie!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  78. Paul is lying.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  79. This is what celebrityconfidence over substance looks like.

    FTFM!

    felipe (56556d)

  80. Paul = Obama on foreign policy.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  81. Huckabee is a freaking loon. His constitutional analysis fails to take Marbury v. Madison into account. May have handled a few too many snakes in the backwoods.

    Bugg (5f4a83)

  82. I despise Huck, but he is correct about Iran.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  83. I’m changing my tune a little on Trump. I hope he stays in the race for a while. He certainly gets people to watch, which is probably the Republican’s biggest problem.

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  84. Trump – I’m Reagan?

    Is he really going there?

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  85. Huckleberry is the answer to the question no one has asked.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  86. Trump: Bush gave us Obama.

    No, McCain gave us Obama. Then Romney doubled down.

    Trump you will give us Obama III – Hilary.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  87. “I’m changing my tune a little on Trump.”

    He’s unlikely to win as other candidates drop out and endorse Jeb or whomever. But immigration is the existential issue of the day, not only for America, but for all of western civilization. The race needs someone like Trump to raise this issue in a huge way, if you want to have a country and civilization for your future generations.

    But that said, Donald Trump would mop the floor with Hillary Clinton.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781)

  88. Kasich the squish, being a squish.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  89. Walker went the other way on the hair? Cut it short? He must have given up on Texas.

    nk (dbc370)

  90. Paul’s hair is as bad as Trumps.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  91. Megyn Kelly and her dazzlingly stale moldy and tired fox news propaganda slut uterus are for sure the stars of the night I think

    just from clicking around

    happyfeet (831175)

  92. now That right there is the real war on women… #93.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  93. NWA commercial on the GOP debate. Write your own punchline.

    Bugg (5f4a83)

  94. and time mag agrees

    moldy uterus ftw

    happyfeet (831175)

  95. Megyn Kelly and her dazzlingly stale moldy and tired fox news propaganda slut uterus are for sure the stars of the night I think

    What the hell?

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  96. Fox is making this Trump v. Jeb.

    Good thing Trump is there, he can’t win, hope he brings down Jeb.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  97. Trump is kicking some serious hiney right here.

    Bugg (5f4a83)

  98. Can you imagine White House Press conferences with a Trump President?

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  99. Hmm. You may be right. I can see any candidate that tangles with the Trump in an alligator death roll is going down with him.

    felipe (56556d)

  100. What the hell?

    for sure the stars of the night are Megyn Kelly and her dazzlingly stale moldy and tired fox news propaganda slut uterus

    happyfeet (831175)

  101. Like Walker v. Putin!

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  102. Paul throwing line out to anti-semites.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  103. Christy slams Paul answer. His military numbers don’t reflect reality.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  104. Chelsea Clinton likes Kelly. Something is wrong.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/ChelseaClinton/status/629464913124171776

    kishnevi (294553)

  105. Has any Republican candidate other than Trump at least bothered to single out the phrase “political correctness” for ridicule and condemnation? I know Jeb Bush sure as hell hasn’t done that, wouldn’t do that, or be interested in doing that, since PC runs through his veins.

    Mark (78b181)

  106. Straight outta teh Hamptons, crazy motherf*cker named Don Trump
    Walkin’ like he talkin’ a proverbial Forrest Gump
    When Paul got called off, Rubio shorty he so sawed off
    Squeeze the trigger, and bodies are hauled off
    You too, Chris, if ya f*ck with he
    The chumps all think he gonna lose to Hillary!
    Off yo ass, that’s how he’s goin out
    For the punk motherf*ckers that’s he’s showin out

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  107. Good point Mark. PC is probably just as big as immigration. It enables other issues.

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  108. happyfeet, how can you see Megan’s uterus? Do you know what the uterus is?

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  109. oh sorry was my comment not pc

    happyfeet (831175)

  110. I don’t mind that it wasn’t pc, it was simply an odd statement.

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  111. it’s my way of saying the hooch is trying WAY to hard to be the superstar of the evening instead of just doing her job and helping the candidates explore meaningful important issues in a substantive way Mr. head

    happyfeet (831175)

  112. I like the fact we had a bunch of candidates, but the format of this “debate” sucked. Dana’s idea of a bracket for debates is awesome, and would be better.

    30 second closing statement – what garbage.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  113. Christie’s hair is worse than everyone else’s. Looks like he’s wearing a limp taco on his head.

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  114. Trump has evolved in his positions…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  115. happy, if you talked in front of my girls like you blather here, you would have to be carried out.

    It makes you sound dumber than you are, and does not move your point anywhere other than out your ass.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  116. Cruz and Carson were shortchanged.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  117. No, dejectedhead… it’s a half-eaten cinnamon roll…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  118. Whoa whoa whoa Steve Malyum. Only transgender reporters get to talk that way.

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  119. #11: Hunh?

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:38 pm

    Forget it. It’s Happyfeet. This sites version of Spurwing Plover.

    Bill H (2a858c)

  120. That’s actually his hair combed over.

    Gerald A (949d7d) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:37 pm

    Hence my nic for Trump: Ol’ Squirreltop. His hair looks for all the world like a squashed squirrel.

    Bill H (2a858c)

  121. Getting pretty excited about President Trump over here.

    Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:40 pm

    Porn sites are three doors down on your left.

    Bill H (2a858c)

  122. I was impressed (I eventually found a way to watch it) by Rubio and Cruz and (to my surprise) Christie. Kasich does not seem to be able to present his ideas well. Bush has the charisma of Al Gore.

    aphrael (c4a2c9)

  123. Steve M. just likes to be succinct and clear.
    After years of ignoring softer admonitions, one could reasonably expect an increase in the volume of the message to happyfeets’ war on women.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  124. I would say a baby badger, Bill H.

    nk (dbc370)

  125. #124. Having the charisma of Al Gore is at least 10 times more than Chillary Clinton

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  126. nk, was the hair snarling?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  127. I would say a baby badger, Bill H.

    nk (dbc370) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:10 pm

    And we all know how the honey badger feels….

    Bill H (2a858c)

  128. i think we get jobs numbers in the morning

    happyfeet (831175)

  129. Happyfeet,

    It has nothing to do with political correctness, but everything to do with unnecessary crudeness. Try harder.

    Dana (86e864)

  130. FOX NEWS has designated Frank Luntz and his focus group to carry out the execution of Donald Trump. Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace put the poison in his cup and Luntz is there to administer the coup de grace.

    ropelight (c7944e)

  131. Cruz or Walker. I’m good with either.

    Dana (86e864)

  132. i will try harder i promise

    happyfeet (831175)

  133. Tomorrow’s headline: The Collapse of Trump!

    ropelight (c7944e)

  134. Can you try harder to capitalize letters too?

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  135. Megyn Kelly is yucky and stupid how she wasted her opportunity to ask substantive questions. I was particularly squicked out by the stupid mentally flaccid way she asked Mr. Governor Scott Walker about his unholy lust for seeing mommies die in pregnancy.

    I thought are you for reals, picklepoo?

    And you know what I did.

    I made a comment where i implied she was injecting tired old gender-based identity politics into the debate.

    I see now she was just being herself. Like how Caitlyn is just being herself.

    So what I would like to do is invite Megyn to come over Saturday to have mojitos with me and my Planned Parenthood janitorial staff friends. I have this kicky spinach white bean on crostini thing I been wanting to try out on people.

    happyfeet (831175)

  136. i just worry we’re not gonna have a lot to talk about

    happyfeet (831175)

  137. Luntz has been feeding Fox Rove nonsense forever.

    If you want to lose the popular vote AGAIN, good luck with that,

    Hukcabee and Rubio are dunces.

    Bugg (5f4a83)

  138. This is a meaningless comparison but it was way better than the first 2012 GOP debate. I thought Ben Carson was impressive. If the eventual nominee wants to think outside the box they should consider picking him as their running mate.

    Gerald A (949d7d)

  139. Well, while you guys were watching this stuff, Lizzie confessed that the jewels had been in her possession all along, but then they were really stolen in a real burglary. And now that they are truly gone, everyone seems relieved, even the Eustace family lawyer. The diamonds were all the cause of the trouble and things will be better without them.

    nk (dbc370)

  140. GOP PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE LOSER? FOX NEWS: I was particularly disappointed with the ridiculous “gotcha!” questions posed by Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace. Can Fox News please focus on the issues and not try to play favorites?

    thank you Elizabeth Price Foley lady for this insightful epiphany

    i agree many percents

    i accidentally put this in the wrong thread so I’m a put it here too

    happyfeet (831175)

  141. Luntz and his wolf in sheep’s clothing Democrat plant Trump supporters… sheesh.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  142. and I’m no Trump fan but puhleeze… “couldn’t believe he was so mean”… lol

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  143. Just my impressions. I actually thought Huckabee did extremely well. I also thought Rubio and Cruz did well. Carson’s closing was good. Walker was likable. Christie held his own.

    I think Rand is done.

    Kasich hurt himself by sticking to talking points.

    I don’t think Trump did badly enough to be out, but all media forces will be united to count him out. I did not care much for his performance, although, he did make seem points.

    Just my opinion, I liked Cruz and Rubio. Really, though, Huckabee was good. I would like to see Fiorina on the main stage. Also, I hope Carson stays in.

    So, who am I leaving out. Oh yeah, Jeb. He’s done. Was he there? Where will his money go?

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  144. Jeb and Kasich are cut from the same cloth.

    Megyn Kelly’s behavior irked me more than Trump’s. I had higher expectations of her.

    Dana (86e864)

  145. nk, you were with one kind of mystery, while I was occupying myself with another sort of mystery.

    (That was through the Patterico link, so you click on it immediately).

    kishnevi (294553)

  146. Oooh, ooh. Debbie Whatshername Shultz is on Fox Demsplaining why Clinton will win. It’s tragic.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  147. I felt that Fox was giving Walker and Cruz the short end of the stick and giving Jeb and Kasich the advantage. Which is funny because that’s what the RNC wants, which in turn makes Fox News not very unbiased, eh?

    Dana (86e864)

  148. Only read the prime minister of trollope’s work.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  149. I just hope in future debates, all of the candidates focus on Hillary. All I want to know is how, exactly, each candidate will develop a strategy to defeat Hillary.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  150. Carson said it would be a dream come true to face Hillery. He didn’t get a chance to explain how he would deal with her candidacy.

    felipe (56556d)

  151. Fox News’ Megyn Kelly Was the Real Winner of the First GOP Primary Debate

    yup yup it’s all about you sugartoots

    good work

    happyfeet (831175)

  152. Dana – Trump didn’t actually irk me at all, which surprised me.

    aphrael (c4a2c9)

  153. Congrats you won the jenner channel, deal of approval.megyn

    narciso (ee1f88)

  154. “Trump is going to bust balls of Putin, China & Mexico – right after he recovers from having his feelings hurt by @megynkelly’s questions.” Tom Bevan.

    Steve Malynn (6b1ce5)

  155. Huh. People read the New York Times these days. I did not know that.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  156. this poodleman shultz
    gots wire-haired terrier look
    does it doggie-style

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  157. Rubio has Spock ears.

    ropelight (c7944e)

  158. I can’t wait to see this if it happens.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  159. Can you try harder to capitalize letters too?

    Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:30 pm

    Baby steps, all in the fullness of time.

    Bill H (2a858c)

  160. So glad I missed this episode of drunk driving a clown car.
    thanks for the play by play of the fox bimbo. happyfeet. She is a luntz dunce.

    mg (31009b)

  161. just a mortifyingly obnoxious performance from her god bless america

    happyfeet (831175)

  162. I read at the gateway pundit, she is foxes’ version of candy crowley.
    lmao over and over again.

    mg (31009b)

  163. Dana,

    I agree it looks like Fox favored establishment Republican candidates such as Bush and Kasich. (I also include Rubio in that category, although some might disagree.) In Kasich’s case, it could also be that Fox wanted to increase audience participation by featuring the hometown guy.

    DRJ (1dff03)

  164. Except for Kasich, the time per candidate largely mirrored their standings in the polls so there is a fairness to that.

    DRJ (1dff03)

  165. It would be a shame if future debates include Kasich instead of Fiorina.

    DRJ (1dff03)

  166. re #166. Funny, I thought they favored Rubio and Walker.

    The real test will be the democrat “debate”. Two hours of girl talk ending in #BlackGayIllegallives matter with a high five for increased abortion funding and the death penalty for Christians who refuse to serve LGHTFDSRH.

    Maybe Hillary! will use her moslem name: Seldom Bin Laid.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  167. Hoagie,

    I was talking about the time allotted to each candidate, not the questions themselves because that is more subjective. It’s just my opinion but I agree the tone of the questions favored Rubio and Walker because they were fairly easy and predictable. The questions to Trump about how he talks about women and to Cruz about whether God talks to him were much tougher than anything Rubio or Walker had to answer.

    DRJ (1dff03)

  168. http://t.co/1DjZibL5aC

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  169. It’s hard to imagine Trump increasing his support after last night, but we’ll see.

    DRJ (1dff03)

  170. What struck me last night is how many incredible future Cabinet members we may have seen in both debates. I think these people could fix some of the problems we face as a nation.

    DRJ (1dff03)

  171. Yes, DRJ. That is quite true.

    JD (34f761)

  172. indeed, other than Bolton as head of State
    I want that milwaukee sheriff put in charge of a DOJ anti-discrimination, anti-corruption, anti-PC task force, as in anti-discrimination of all kinds.
    and (figuratively) give him knitting needles

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  173. Varsity team is a racist dog whistle. Kiddy table is cisageism micro aggression.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  174. Trump and his third party are already in team republicans big tent. If they leave team r will sink faster than the titanic.

    mg (31009b)

  175. An embarrassment of riches, that’s the state of potential R candidates. The Dems are impoverished… pasty white, old of tooth and ideas… pretty much on life support.

    Colonel Haiku (9e5f20)

  176. Another +1 for DRJ #173.

    Ken in Camarillo (c5b86d)

  177. Kasich: Talks like a Souter opinion reads. He has no center.

    Trump: I don’t demand PC, but some civility might do him better. Clearly not a person I’d care to drink with.

    Cruz: Was he there?

    Walker: That “no abortion even to save the mother’s life” position is a non-starter. He needs to address that sooner rather than later, if only to say that is a personal belief and not something the state should try to enforce.

    Bush: Calm, collected, helped by Fox. A decent, competent man in a time that calls for rather more passion and drive.

    Huckabee: Sorry, I’d rather have Trump if I have to have an idiot.

    Rand: Acorn, tree, not far from.

    Carson: What is he running for again? Maybe he’d like to fix the VA.

    Donut: Go hug a gun.

    Rubio: Helped himself a lot, especially since most viewers have never been exposed.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  178. Today’s ideal ticket:

    Fiorina/Rubio.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  179. a little harsh, Cruz was I would say artificially excluded,

    http://www.steynonline.com/7092/debate-without-end

    narciso (ee1f88)

  180. The thing I’ve been thinking about is, what if Trump were to actually take the nomination? Then what?

    @Dana

    I dont think Trump will take it. He will go as far as he feels comfortable then either pull out or continue to push the envelope with comments until he cant continue. He repeatedly enters this spectacle and its clear its all about self promotion and ego. Its a game to him.

    But its fun to listen to him. I was glued to the internet when he had his fight with Rosie and it was great to see it revived ha!

    -Gil

    Gil (4e1585)

  181. But its fun to listen to him. I was glued to the internet when he had his fight with Rosie and it was great to see it revived ha!

    You should reevaluate your life.

    hadoop (657247)

  182. Bolton, Sheriff Joe, Mayor Rudy and Ted Nugent need to be on the cabinet team.
    And why not Pat Dollard.

    mg (31009b)

  183. “You should reevaluate your life.”
    hadoop (657247)

    Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

    JD (34f761)

  184. Walker: That “no abortion even to save the mother’s life” position is a non-starter. He needs to address that sooner rather than later, if only to say that is a personal belief and not something the state should try to enforce.
    Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/7/2015 @ 3:35 pm

    I don’t know if I’ve ever heard a person claim that view, and I’d be interested to see what documentation there is of that being his stance.
    Usually the discussion is over the health of the mother, where health gets expanded into being upset for the inconvenience of being pregnant, which in medical lingo is an “adjustment reaction with anxiety and/or depression”.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  185. I agree that Walker was a bit beyond the Pale with his comment about “no abortion even to save the life of the mother.” He is no doubt aware that the “health” exception has been the huge hole that defeated all efforts to control abortion to some reasonable level in terms of fetus viability. The rare case of third term abortion necessity would apply to women with mitral stenosis that we see go into pulmonary edema in third trimester. That is damn rare these days.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  186. Gil should reevaluate his life, but for reasons far more fundamental than being amused by the antics of the buffoon Trump.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  187. Gil should reevaluate his life, but for reasons far more fundamental than being amused by the antics of the buffoon Trump.

    Oh boy. You see, this is why we cant have nice things. I wasn’t even being argumentative and out comes the animosity. Im not sure why I’m the one who has to reevaluate things. I dont subsribe to THIS belief.

    Gil (4e1585)

  188. 187. Walker: That “no abortion even to save the mother’s life” position is a non-starter. He needs to address that sooner rather than later, if only to say that is a personal belief and not something the state should try to enforce.
    Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/7/2015 @ 3:35 pm

    I don’t know if I’ve ever heard a person claim that view, and I’d be interested to see what documentation there is of that being his stance.
    Usually the discussion is over the health of the mother, where health gets expanded into being upset for the inconvenience of being pregnant, which in medical lingo is an “adjustment reaction with anxiety and/or depression”.

    MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/8/2015 @ 6:47 am

    I don’t know if it would be good politics or not, but I hate how the left claims the mantle of science and reason and casts the right as somehow in the grip of primitive superstition when it demands abortion for the sake of the life and health of the mother.

    Our good doctor from Philly has pointed out, the abortion for the sake of the mother’s health is a dodge. It means anything, including the fact she put a downpayment on a trip to Cancun, and her mental health would be irretrievably harmed if she looked pregnant in a bikini and ruined the pics.

    As the saying goes, I s*** you not. I am not making up the story.

    But what about the life of the mother? I am reminded of this story.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/abortion-debate-hospital-stripped-catholic-status/story?id=12455295

    … Last fall, a 27-year-old mother of four entered the hospital 11 weeks pregnant and was suffering from pulmonary hypertension.

    Doctors said if her pregnancy wasn’t terminated, she would likely die of heart failure – taking her unborn child with her.

    The decision to terminate was approved by Sister Margaret McBride, a longtime senior administrator at the hospital. But when Bishop Thomas Olmstead of the Diocese of Phoenix heard about the abortion, he excommunicated McBride.

    Having an abortion is against Catholic teachings.

    Although the move caused an uproar, with some critics pointing out that even pedophile priests weren’t excommunicated, Bishop Olmstead went a step further on Tuesday.

    He stripped St. Joseph’s Hospital of its affiliation with the Catholic Church.

    He argued hospital officials did not try to save both the mother and child…

    What the Bishop argued had the advantage of having the force of SCIENCE…

    Let me repeat that word. SCIENCE…

    …science behind it. Because a great many doctors weighed in, and after first caveating their statements by observing they did not personally treat this woman, a baby at 11 weeks of gestation simply does not put enough demands on a woman’s body to place her life at risk. That they had successfully treated women suffering from high blood pressure, which is what we’re talking about, without terminating the pregnancy.

    And terminating the pregnancy is always an option. Shocka! I know. Catholic doctors at Catholic hospitals will terminate pregnancies. The difference is, when Catholic doctors at Catholic hospitals terminate pregnancies the “products of conception” don’t get chopped up and put in a lasagna dish in the refrigerator. No. The child goes into an incubator and they make every effort to keep her or him alive.

    With the advances of SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY by the time a child has grown large enough to put enough stress on a woman’s body to put her life at risk, the child has grown large enough to be viable outside the womb given sufficient medical care. It is true that the child does not survive in every case, nor without significant long term health issues. But the chance is real and they take it.

    I will not be exploring the principle of double effect in this comment, which is the principle that guides these decisions and also says I can shoot you if I see you beating my neighbor with a shovel.

    Steve57 (5a07a9)

  189. I don’t know of how one can save the life of the mother with an ectopic pregnancy without essentially performing an abortion for one scenario.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  190. I wasn’t even being argumentative and out comes the animosity. Im not sure why I’m the one who has to reevaluate things. I dont subsribe to THIS belief.

    Where do you get animosity from my remark? I just don’t understand what is fun about witnessing two people verbally abusing one another. But, it’s your life—enjoy!

    hadoop (657247)

  191. Actually hadoop most people in that room liked it, notice the laughter and applause spiked up when he cut off the question and said “Only Rosie O’donnel”

    Maybe animosity was the wrong word. But you definitely were taking a pot shot at me simply because of what I find to be funny.

    cya!

    Gil (4e1585)

  192. Maybe animosity was the wrong word. But you definitely were taking a pot shot at me simply because of what I find to be funny.

    Whatever! You seem to have a persecution complex that you obviously relish. Since I’m not “glued to the internet” with the exception of finding job related information, please don’t feel the need to respond. I don’t delight in the neurosis that manifests itself in comment blog sections.

    hadoop (657247)

  193. From what I understand, a third trimester in the womb is no longer essential for the baby, due to all the medical advances. By the time the third trimester comes along, the baby is viable outside the womb. This is my understanding, and no, I did not take any biology or anatomy classes in college, so I could be mistaken in what I read.

    So, if a third trimester is not essential (but strongly advised), is it necessary to abort any baby at the third trimester to save the life of the mother? Or is just a premature delivery all it takes? I would be interested in knowing this.

    John Hitchcock (016a55)

  194. Kevin M

    Walker: That “no abortion even to save the mother’s life” position is a non-starter.

    It would be if he had such a position, but he doesn’t. You’re making it up.

    He needs to address that sooner rather than later, if only to say that is a personal belief and not something the state should try to enforce.

    Since, as far as I can tell, it isn’t his belief, he has no need to address it.

    Mike K

    I agree that Walker was a bit beyond the Pale with his comment about “no abortion even to save the life of the mother.”

    Once again, as far as I know he made no such comment, and so did not cross any pale. When and where did you hear him make it?

    Milhouse (a04cc3)

  195. Megyn Kelly said that is what Scott Walker’s position is, and he didn’t dispute it saying that “I’ve said many a time that that unborn child can be protected, and there are many other alternatives that can also protect the life of the mother.”

    .. which might be true 80% or 90% of the time – you could try a live birth in certain kinds of cases and see what happens – but maybe not 100% of the time. One particular kind of case s where the wpman has cancer and they want to adminsiter chemotherapy. They can’t, in good conscience, do it, while the baby is still inside. They can also wait, and there are other kinds of cases where they can also wait, but the chances of recovery would go up if the motehr was no longer carrying the baby, and what they actually do can depend upon what the feelings oof the family are, and/or how much they want the baby.

    Sometimes the family will want to risk harming the baby, but not to abort the baby, and the doctors don’t want to do that. It’s aborting it or nothing.

    Sammy Finkelman (047868)


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