Presidential Debate Open Thread: Varsity Team Edition
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Let loose the Trump and see what may come.
(I’m going to be watching Cruz and Walker.)
–Dana
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Let loose the Trump and see what may come.
(I’m going to be watching Cruz and Walker.)
–Dana
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Dana (86e864) — 8/6/2015 @ 4:48 pm“two words to describe Hillary Clinton?” Lying Cvnt.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 4:55 pmi’m bored with trump i’m not going to watch
he’s a filthy whore and a new yorker to boot
that’s not what a pikachu wanna come home to after a hard day at the salt mines
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 4:56 pmHappyfeet,
The thing I’ve been thinking about is, what if Trump were to actually take the nomination? Then what?
Dana (86e864) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:02 pmplus pasty old jeb bush is there probably to see if he can sell any of his $75 guacamole bowls
75 freaking dollars srsly?
what probably happened is his wife bought like a thousand of them for $100 on ebay thinking they were priced in pesos
she had some splainin to do for sure
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:05 pmRumor has it that the GOP big donors have given Rubio his marching orders to take Trump out tonight. Further, “It should also be noted some of these high-powered donors are helping to finance the campaigns of BOTH Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush. Presently, Donald Trump represents the single greatest threat to their intention of controlling the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.”
Dana (86e864) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:07 pmDana he’s already hit his ceiling i think
that’s what I think
then I remember how those morons in Minnesota elected Jesse whatever his name was
he’s SO trashy, Donald Trump is, so it’s scary
he’s like the quintessential american
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:07 pmis anyone live blogging this?
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:10 pmSteyn has waxed eloquent on the oligarch and the Medici.
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:12 pmooh goody national soros radio is
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:12 pmKevin M
This whole thing feels like a publicity stunt by Fox.
VladimirPutin
your mom is a publicity stunt
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:13 pmok yeah the national soros radio losers aren’t gonna git it done for me tonight
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:14 pmLoathing team republican as I do, Trump is saying the seven dirty words one once thought were verboten in the not so mighty big tent. Good for him. Cruz and Walker need to have a Seven Game Debate Series. Loser buys the other one dinner. Cruz, Walker, Trump. That is my trifecta as of now. The rest of them should wait for the bus.
mg (31009b) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:16 pmoh it doesn’t start for awhile yet?
ok done and done I’ve lost all patience
i still get mixered up on my time zone sometimes
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:16 pmLoathing team republican as I do, Trump is saying the seven dirty words one once thought were verboten in the not so mighty big tent. Good for him.
i liked that at first too then i wanted more substance and trump just isn’t very substantive
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:17 pmCarly Powah!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:21 pmhappyfeet, the one thing I like about Trump he has asked no one for a red cent. Let him buy it. No one else will.
mg (31009b) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:24 pmtThe third party is already in the tent, and it is Trump.
mg (31009b) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:32 pmhonestly a Team R what can’t beat Trump is pretty obviously not selling anything very enticing
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:37 pmI would be watching, but I can’t find a bar that’s showing it and Fox isn’t letting you watch it online if you don’t have a cable subscription. So I’ll read a book instead.
aphrael (c4a2c9) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:38 pmTry the radio. I recall that opinion on who won the debate between Clinton and GHW Bush was split between those who saw it on TV – they mostly thought Clinton won – and those who listened to it on radio thought Bush won.
ropelight (c7944e) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:49 pmAfter the sideshow ends, comes a real candidate worth support…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:53 pmhttp://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ken-shepherd/2015/08/06/carly-fiorina-pushes-back-against-chris-matthews-hardball
Meanwhile I’m reading an old but fascinating exchange about what the historical evidence says about the assasination of Hypatia, versus how people know it from Carl Sagan and a movie called Agora.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/6/2015 @ 5:57 pmIt’s already a circus, two minutes into it.
Dana (86e864) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:07 pmDid trump just call. Kelly…..
Epwj (adb563) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:14 pmCruz? Does he have any position?
Epwj (adb563) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:17 pmGetting cuckservatives out of the GOP leadership can only help.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:18 pmwhere’s captain donald been all this time
why didn’t he help stop the cuckadoodle infestation before it reached critical mass
oh that’s right he was busy shoveling money at the Clinton$
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:23 pmHe can’t even get himself a decent toupee. Or rid of that c*cksucker duckface pout when he talks.
nk (dbc370) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:26 pmHe was pacing himself.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:26 pmTrump the clown
Epwj (2641ee) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:27 pm“My fortune is huge. My ideas are huge. I will build a huge wall.”
– Donald Trump
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:28 pmThe FOX moderators are out to pull a Candy Crawley on The Donald.
ropelight (c7944e) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:29 pmThe thing I’ve been thinking about is, what if Trump were to actually take the nomination? Then what?
Then, assuming I’m not busy that day, I’ll vote for him and Hillary (or Biden or the Commie) will still win.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:31 pmExcept the Fox mods are not answering the questions, not telling lies, not picking a candidate. Other than that, yep just like Candy.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:32 pmIn all seriousness, it needs it. This mad Rovian seeking the Hispanic vote, not standing firm against excessive immigration, so that the GOP can get, perhaps, 40% of the new voters’ votes… is politically suicidal madness.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:34 pmYes. Yes, they are.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:35 pmThat’s actually his hair combed over.
Gerald A (949d7d) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:37 pmLaw of supply and demand, sir. His is one of a kind!
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:37 pm#11: Hunh?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:38 pmAs I said, he gets things done.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:38 pmChristy ended rands run
Epwj (388ca2) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:39 pmAs I said, he gets things done.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:39 pmoh that was a for reals quote from the dippy npr chat
different Kevin M
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:39 pmForgive duplicate comment. Getting pretty excited about President Trump over here.
Business acumen without war-madness. I like the sound of that!
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:40 pmListening to Christi and Paul go at it! Not pretty to me.
felipe (56556d) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:40 pmAdmittedly, Ted Cruz is making sense on “radical” Islam. Of course, Donald Trump makes even more sense.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:43 pmthe young whelp has infiltrated teh ranks…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:43 pmI see that Trump is spending money here.
I turned on the debate to see if Trump was going to behave. Instead, he came to act out. I’m surprised he hasn’t peed on the stage, he’s so over the top offensive.
What a colossal a*hole. Why would we want a second egotistical sociopath in the WH? Isn’t one bad enough.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:44 pmSounds exciting. Too bad I can’t watch =(
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:45 pmFrankly, he should either take the pledge or the GOP ought to take away his free air time. In fact, I’d demand a binding contract with a $100 million breach clause.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:45 pmSame standard for every other GOP candidate, even if Trump wins?
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:46 pmTrump was right on Iraq.
I was wrong (it is what it is). Trump was right.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:47 pmScott Walker’s right: Hillary Clinton has the bad touch.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:50 pmGod-based tax system.—Ben Carson
Originally that was meant to be criticism, but it couldn’t be worse than what’s in place now.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:52 pmI liked when Carson answered the question about whether he would bring back water boarding and he said he didn’t think it was a good idea to tell the enemy what we would be doing. So unlike our current president who is inclined to giving our enemies a heads up.
Dana (86e864) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:54 pmDejectedhead go here
felipe (56556d) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:54 pmI know it’s a combover. He must have destroyed half the ozone layer with the hairspray over the years. Did he really get Ivana to reduce her breasts? Cos that’s so like “What, are you nuts?”
nk (dbc370) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:57 pmI was disappointed with Megyn Kelly going the war on women route.
Dana (86e864) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:57 pmjust started watching a few (20) minutes ago. Entertaining. Just noticed I haven’t seen any Cruz, Christie is just in the side shots and Paul I only saw in a spat with Trump. I’m assuming I missed a bit in the first 30 minutes. I do like Rubio, but I think it perhaps is I have the same personality or just can relate to him more.
G (6a553a) — 8/6/2015 @ 6:59 pmJeb humps his book?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:00 pmI agree, Dana.
Celebrity/straight talking/presumed charisma and power/track record, etc., aside, I think Donald Trump’s main appeal is:
– traditional, pre-neocon (which hasn’t worked out so well) Republican position of being pro-business, including protectionism, border control, etc., but not into war, reflexively
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:01 pm– on immigration again, it really is an existential question: if not for the nation (and it is), then sure as h-ck for the GOP’s political future; like it or not, the GOP is not going to dominate the Hispanic and third-world immigrant vote. Nope.
I’m so upset with Megyn I’m declaring a Global Chubwa on her, Dana!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:02 pm#59, Dana, me too and I’ve been talkin’ her up lately. I was wrong, she’s not fair or balanced.
ropelight (c7944e) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:04 pmI’m also pro-border control, protectionist, anti-interventionist, and anti-war. And I still have most of my hair (receding at the widow’s peak). But you definitely do not want me as President, trust me on this.
nk (dbc370) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:06 pm(y)
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:07 pmShe’s serious one night and delirious the next. She hasn’t worn well… and yet I find it hard to take my eyes off her.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:07 pmThanks Felipe. Unfortunately I tune in and see Chris Christie. Bleh.
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:07 pmTrump gets this full Gorbachev look on his face like he’s listening to a translation of something.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:10 pmTry the radio. I recall that opinion on who won the debate between Clinton and GHW Bush was split between those who saw it on TV – they mostly thought Clinton won – and those who listened to it on radio thought Bush won.
I’ve never read that before. If so, it mirrors what happened in the Kennedy/Nixon debates in 1960, which was when TV (or live broadcast images thereof) was still not as ascendant over radio as would be the case years later. It illustrates the power of the superficial over the substantial.
At this moment, the only Republican I’m having an increasingly visceral dislike for is Jeb Bush. Nonetheless, if a field as far reaching as the one representing the Republican Party and, to varying degrees, the rightwing, cannot win over the garbage of Hillary and what-not, then America truly is going to end up a cross between the world’s biggest banana republic and quasi-Third World, in the form of a Mexico or Puerto Rico.
A bright future, indeed.
Mark (78b181) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:12 pm“I tune in and see Chris Christie. Bleh.”
Tell me about it. Them’s the breaks.
felipe (56556d) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:12 pmRubio non answer.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:15 pmTrump is kicking tail.
Carson and Cruz are doing very well.
Paul crushed Christie.
Rubio and Bush should both call it a day and catch the next flight to Del Boca Vista Phase 2.
Bugg (5f4a83) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:15 pmTrump is fun to watch! This is what celebrity over substance looks like. I think the Donald is affecting some of the other candidates.
felipe (56556d) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:16 pmBut you definitely do not want me as President, trust me on this.
I doubt you’d be any worse than the deranged character now occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Mark (78b181) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:16 pmWhat the hell is going on with Walker’s hair? Bald works for Michael Jordan and Sean Connery. WTF?
Bugg (5f4a83) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:16 pmHard to argue with Rubio on killing Dodd–Frank.
(Well, not literally. You know.)
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:17 pmObama-huggin’, Krispy Kreme demolishin’ Chris Christie!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:17 pmPaul is lying.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:17 pmThis is what
celebrityconfidence over substance looks like.FTFM!
felipe (56556d) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:18 pmPaul = Obama on foreign policy.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:19 pmHuckabee is a freaking loon. His constitutional analysis fails to take Marbury v. Madison into account. May have handled a few too many snakes in the backwoods.
Bugg (5f4a83) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:19 pmI despise Huck, but he is correct about Iran.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:20 pmI’m changing my tune a little on Trump. I hope he stays in the race for a while. He certainly gets people to watch, which is probably the Republican’s biggest problem.
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:22 pmTrump – I’m Reagan?
Is he really going there?
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:27 pmHuckleberry is the answer to the question no one has asked.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:29 pmTrump: Bush gave us Obama.
No, McCain gave us Obama. Then Romney doubled down.
Trump you will give us Obama III – Hilary.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:29 pmHe’s unlikely to win as other candidates drop out and endorse Jeb or whomever. But immigration is the existential issue of the day, not only for America, but for all of western civilization. The race needs someone like Trump to raise this issue in a huge way, if you want to have a country and civilization for your future generations.
But that said, Donald Trump would mop the floor with Hillary Clinton.
Finally, a Leader Who Gets Things Done (c40781) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:30 pmKasich the squish, being a squish.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:30 pmWalker went the other way on the hair? Cut it short? He must have given up on Texas.
nk (dbc370) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:31 pmPaul’s hair is as bad as Trumps.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:32 pmMegyn Kelly and her dazzlingly stale moldy and tired fox news propaganda slut uterus are for sure the stars of the night I think
just from clicking around
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:32 pmnow That right there is the real war on women… #93.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:34 pmNWA commercial on the GOP debate. Write your own punchline.
Bugg (5f4a83) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:34 pmand time mag agrees
moldy uterus ftw
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:35 pmWhat the hell?
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:36 pmFox is making this Trump v. Jeb.
Good thing Trump is there, he can’t win, hope he brings down Jeb.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:37 pmTrump is kicking some serious hiney right here.
Bugg (5f4a83) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:38 pmCan you imagine White House Press conferences with a Trump President?
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:38 pmHmm. You may be right. I can see any candidate that tangles with the Trump in an alligator death roll is going down with him.
felipe (56556d) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:40 pmWhat the hell?
for sure the stars of the night are Megyn Kelly and her dazzlingly stale moldy and tired fox news propaganda slut uterus
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:41 pmLike Walker v. Putin!
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:42 pmPaul throwing line out to anti-semites.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:45 pmChristy slams Paul answer. His military numbers don’t reflect reality.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:47 pmChelsea Clinton likes Kelly. Something is wrong.
kishnevi (294553) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:47 pmhttps://mobile.twitter.com/ChelseaClinton/status/629464913124171776
Has any Republican candidate other than Trump at least bothered to single out the phrase “political correctness” for ridicule and condemnation? I know Jeb Bush sure as hell hasn’t done that, wouldn’t do that, or be interested in doing that, since PC runs through his veins.
Mark (78b181) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:47 pmStraight outta teh Hamptons, crazy motherf*cker named Don Trump
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:50 pmWalkin’ like he talkin’ a proverbial Forrest Gump
When Paul got called off, Rubio shorty he so sawed off
Squeeze the trigger, and bodies are hauled off
You too, Chris, if ya f*ck with he
The chumps all think he gonna lose to Hillary!
Off yo ass, that’s how he’s goin out
For the punk motherf*ckers that’s he’s showin out
Good point Mark. PC is probably just as big as immigration. It enables other issues.
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:50 pmhappyfeet, how can you see Megan’s uterus? Do you know what the uterus is?
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:52 pmoh sorry was my comment not pc
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:53 pmI don’t mind that it wasn’t pc, it was simply an odd statement.
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:54 pmit’s my way of saying the hooch is trying WAY to hard to be the superstar of the evening instead of just doing her job and helping the candidates explore meaningful important issues in a substantive way Mr. head
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:58 pmI like the fact we had a bunch of candidates, but the format of this “debate” sucked. Dana’s idea of a bracket for debates is awesome, and would be better.
30 second closing statement – what garbage.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:58 pmChristie’s hair is worse than everyone else’s. Looks like he’s wearing a limp taco on his head.
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 7:58 pmTrump has evolved in his positions…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:00 pmhappy, if you talked in front of my girls like you blather here, you would have to be carried out.
It makes you sound dumber than you are, and does not move your point anywhere other than out your ass.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:00 pmCruz and Carson were shortchanged.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:02 pmNo, dejectedhead… it’s a half-eaten cinnamon roll…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:02 pmWhoa whoa whoa Steve Malyum. Only transgender reporters get to talk that way.
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:02 pmForget it. It’s Happyfeet. This sites version of Spurwing Plover.
Bill H (2a858c) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:03 pmHence my nic for Trump: Ol’ Squirreltop. His hair looks for all the world like a squashed squirrel.
Bill H (2a858c) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:06 pmPorn sites are three doors down on your left.
Bill H (2a858c) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:09 pmI was impressed (I eventually found a way to watch it) by Rubio and Cruz and (to my surprise) Christie. Kasich does not seem to be able to present his ideas well. Bush has the charisma of Al Gore.
aphrael (c4a2c9) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:09 pmSteve M. just likes to be succinct and clear.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:10 pmAfter years of ignoring softer admonitions, one could reasonably expect an increase in the volume of the message to happyfeets’ war on women.
I would say a baby badger, Bill H.
nk (dbc370) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:10 pm#124. Having the charisma of Al Gore is at least 10 times more than Chillary Clinton
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:13 pmnk, was the hair snarling?
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:14 pmAnd we all know how the honey badger feels….
Bill H (2a858c) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:21 pmi think we get jobs numbers in the morning
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:24 pmHappyfeet,
It has nothing to do with political correctness, but everything to do with unnecessary crudeness. Try harder.
Dana (86e864) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:25 pmFOX NEWS has designated Frank Luntz and his focus group to carry out the execution of Donald Trump. Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace put the poison in his cup and Luntz is there to administer the coup de grace.
ropelight (c7944e) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:25 pmCruz or Walker. I’m good with either.
Dana (86e864) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:26 pmi will try harder i promise
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:27 pmTomorrow’s headline: The Collapse of Trump!
ropelight (c7944e) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:29 pmCan you try harder to capitalize letters too?
Dejectedhead (ec3741) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:30 pmMegyn Kelly is yucky and stupid how she wasted her opportunity to ask substantive questions. I was particularly squicked out by the stupid mentally flaccid way she asked Mr. Governor Scott Walker about his unholy lust for seeing mommies die in pregnancy.
I thought are you for reals, picklepoo?
And you know what I did.
I made a comment where i implied she was injecting tired old gender-based identity politics into the debate.
I see now she was just being herself. Like how Caitlyn is just being herself.
So what I would like to do is invite Megyn to come over Saturday to have mojitos with me and my Planned Parenthood janitorial staff friends. I have this kicky spinach white bean on crostini thing I been wanting to try out on people.
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:34 pmi just worry we’re not gonna have a lot to talk about
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:37 pmLuntz has been feeding Fox Rove nonsense forever.
If you want to lose the popular vote AGAIN, good luck with that,
Hukcabee and Rubio are dunces.
Bugg (5f4a83) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:39 pmThis is a meaningless comparison but it was way better than the first 2012 GOP debate. I thought Ben Carson was impressive. If the eventual nominee wants to think outside the box they should consider picking him as their running mate.
Gerald A (949d7d) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:43 pmWell, while you guys were watching this stuff, Lizzie confessed that the jewels had been in her possession all along, but then they were really stolen in a real burglary. And now that they are truly gone, everyone seems relieved, even the Eustace family lawyer. The diamonds were all the cause of the trouble and things will be better without them.
nk (dbc370) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:43 pmthank you Elizabeth Price Foley lady for this insightful epiphany
i agree many percents
i accidentally put this in the wrong thread so I’m a put it here too
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:45 pmLuntz and his wolf in sheep’s clothing Democrat plant Trump supporters… sheesh.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:50 pmand I’m no Trump fan but puhleeze… “couldn’t believe he was so mean”… lol
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:51 pmJust my impressions. I actually thought Huckabee did extremely well. I also thought Rubio and Cruz did well. Carson’s closing was good. Walker was likable. Christie held his own.
I think Rand is done.
Kasich hurt himself by sticking to talking points.
I don’t think Trump did badly enough to be out, but all media forces will be united to count him out. I did not care much for his performance, although, he did make seem points.
Just my opinion, I liked Cruz and Rubio. Really, though, Huckabee was good. I would like to see Fiorina on the main stage. Also, I hope Carson stays in.
So, who am I leaving out. Oh yeah, Jeb. He’s done. Was he there? Where will his money go?
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:55 pmJeb and Kasich are cut from the same cloth.
Megyn Kelly’s behavior irked me more than Trump’s. I had higher expectations of her.
Dana (86e864) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:58 pmnk, you were with one kind of mystery, while I was occupying myself with another sort of mystery.
(That was through the Patterico link, so you click on it immediately).
kishnevi (294553) — 8/6/2015 @ 8:58 pmOooh, ooh. Debbie Whatshername Shultz is on Fox Demsplaining why Clinton will win. It’s tragic.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:02 pmI felt that Fox was giving Walker and Cruz the short end of the stick and giving Jeb and Kasich the advantage. Which is funny because that’s what the RNC wants, which in turn makes Fox News not very unbiased, eh?
Dana (86e864) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:04 pmOnly read the prime minister of trollope’s work.
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:05 pmI just hope in future debates, all of the candidates focus on Hillary. All I want to know is how, exactly, each candidate will develop a strategy to defeat Hillary.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:06 pmCarson said it would be a dream come true to face Hillery. He didn’t get a chance to explain how he would deal with her candidacy.
felipe (56556d) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:10 pmFox News’ Megyn Kelly Was the Real Winner of the First GOP Primary Debate
yup yup it’s all about you sugartoots
good work
happyfeet (831175) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:11 pmDana – Trump didn’t actually irk me at all, which surprised me.
aphrael (c4a2c9) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:12 pmThe NYT has a breakdown of total speaking time by candidate: http://www.nytimes.com/live/republican-debate-election-2016-cleveland/a-final-count-of-candidate-speaking-time
aphrael (c4a2c9) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:17 pmCongrats you won the jenner channel, deal of approval.megyn
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:18 pm“Trump is going to bust balls of Putin, China & Mexico – right after he recovers from having his feelings hurt by @megynkelly’s questions.” Tom Bevan.
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:23 pmHuh. People read the New York Times these days. I did not know that.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:24 pmthis poodleman shultz
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:29 pmgots wire-haired terrier look
does it doggie-style
Rubio has Spock ears.
ropelight (c7944e) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:33 pmI can’t wait to see this if it happens.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 8/6/2015 @ 9:36 pmBaby steps, all in the fullness of time.
Bill H (2a858c) — 8/6/2015 @ 10:35 pmSo glad I missed this episode of drunk driving a clown car.
mg (31009b) — 8/7/2015 @ 12:42 amthanks for the play by play of the fox bimbo. happyfeet. She is a luntz dunce.
just a mortifyingly obnoxious performance from her god bless america
happyfeet (831175) — 8/7/2015 @ 3:17 amI read at the gateway pundit, she is foxes’ version of candy crowley.
mg (31009b) — 8/7/2015 @ 3:20 amlmao over and over again.
Dana,
I agree it looks like Fox favored establishment Republican candidates such as Bush and Kasich. (I also include Rubio in that category, although some might disagree.) In Kasich’s case, it could also be that Fox wanted to increase audience participation by featuring the hometown guy.
DRJ (1dff03) — 8/7/2015 @ 8:18 amExcept for Kasich, the time per candidate largely mirrored their standings in the polls so there is a fairness to that.
DRJ (1dff03) — 8/7/2015 @ 8:20 amIt would be a shame if future debates include Kasich instead of Fiorina.
DRJ (1dff03) — 8/7/2015 @ 8:21 amre #166. Funny, I thought they favored Rubio and Walker.
The real test will be the democrat “debate”. Two hours of girl talk ending in #BlackGayIllegallives matter with a high five for increased abortion funding and the death penalty for Christians who refuse to serve LGHTFDSRH.
Maybe Hillary! will use her moslem name: Seldom Bin Laid.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 8/7/2015 @ 8:42 amHoagie,
I was talking about the time allotted to each candidate, not the questions themselves because that is more subjective. It’s just my opinion but I agree the tone of the questions favored Rubio and Walker because they were fairly easy and predictable. The questions to Trump about how he talks about women and to Cruz about whether God talks to him were much tougher than anything Rubio or Walker had to answer.
DRJ (1dff03) — 8/7/2015 @ 8:54 amhttp://t.co/1DjZibL5aC
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/7/2015 @ 8:54 amIt’s hard to imagine Trump increasing his support after last night, but we’ll see.
DRJ (1dff03) — 8/7/2015 @ 9:17 amWhat struck me last night is how many incredible future Cabinet members we may have seen in both debates. I think these people could fix some of the problems we face as a nation.
DRJ (1dff03) — 8/7/2015 @ 9:22 amYes, DRJ. That is quite true.
JD (34f761) — 8/7/2015 @ 10:03 amindeed, other than Bolton as head of State
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/7/2015 @ 11:07 amI want that milwaukee sheriff put in charge of a DOJ anti-discrimination, anti-corruption, anti-PC task force, as in anti-discrimination of all kinds.
and (figuratively) give him knitting needles
Varsity team is a racist dog whistle. Kiddy table is cisageism micro aggression.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/7/2015 @ 11:42 amTrump and his third party are already in team republicans big tent. If they leave team r will sink faster than the titanic.
mg (31009b) — 8/7/2015 @ 12:06 pmAn embarrassment of riches, that’s the state of potential R candidates. The Dems are impoverished… pasty white, old of tooth and ideas… pretty much on life support.
Colonel Haiku (9e5f20) — 8/7/2015 @ 12:36 pmAnother +1 for DRJ #173.
Ken in Camarillo (c5b86d) — 8/7/2015 @ 1:10 pmKasich: Talks like a Souter opinion reads. He has no center.
Trump: I don’t demand PC, but some civility might do him better. Clearly not a person I’d care to drink with.
Cruz: Was he there?
Walker: That “no abortion even to save the mother’s life” position is a non-starter. He needs to address that sooner rather than later, if only to say that is a personal belief and not something the state should try to enforce.
Bush: Calm, collected, helped by Fox. A decent, competent man in a time that calls for rather more passion and drive.
Huckabee: Sorry, I’d rather have Trump if I have to have an idiot.
Rand: Acorn, tree, not far from.
Carson: What is he running for again? Maybe he’d like to fix the VA.
Donut: Go hug a gun.
Rubio: Helped himself a lot, especially since most viewers have never been exposed.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/7/2015 @ 3:35 pmToday’s ideal ticket:
Fiorina/Rubio.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/7/2015 @ 3:36 pma little harsh, Cruz was I would say artificially excluded,
http://www.steynonline.com/7092/debate-without-end
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/7/2015 @ 3:41 pm@Dana
I dont think Trump will take it. He will go as far as he feels comfortable then either pull out or continue to push the envelope with comments until he cant continue. He repeatedly enters this spectacle and its clear its all about self promotion and ego. Its a game to him.
But its fun to listen to him. I was glued to the internet when he had his fight with Rosie and it was great to see it revived ha!
-Gil
Gil (4e1585) — 8/8/2015 @ 12:35 amYou should reevaluate your life.
hadoop (657247) — 8/8/2015 @ 3:52 amBolton, Sheriff Joe, Mayor Rudy and Ted Nugent need to be on the cabinet team.
mg (31009b) — 8/8/2015 @ 4:30 amAnd why not Pat Dollard.
“You should reevaluate your life.”
hadoop (657247)
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
JD (34f761) — 8/8/2015 @ 6:34 amWalker: That “no abortion even to save the mother’s life” position is a non-starter. He needs to address that sooner rather than later, if only to say that is a personal belief and not something the state should try to enforce.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/7/2015 @ 3:35 pm
I don’t know if I’ve ever heard a person claim that view, and I’d be interested to see what documentation there is of that being his stance.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/8/2015 @ 6:47 amUsually the discussion is over the health of the mother, where health gets expanded into being upset for the inconvenience of being pregnant, which in medical lingo is an “adjustment reaction with anxiety and/or depression”.
I agree that Walker was a bit beyond the Pale with his comment about “no abortion even to save the life of the mother.” He is no doubt aware that the “health” exception has been the huge hole that defeated all efforts to control abortion to some reasonable level in terms of fetus viability. The rare case of third term abortion necessity would apply to women with mitral stenosis that we see go into pulmonary edema in third trimester. That is damn rare these days.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 8/8/2015 @ 6:57 amGil should reevaluate his life, but for reasons far more fundamental than being amused by the antics of the buffoon Trump.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/8/2015 @ 7:23 amOh boy. You see, this is why we cant have nice things. I wasn’t even being argumentative and out comes the animosity. Im not sure why I’m the one who has to reevaluate things. I dont subsribe to THIS belief.
Gil (4e1585) — 8/8/2015 @ 9:25 amI don’t know if it would be good politics or not, but I hate how the left claims the mantle of science and reason and casts the right as somehow in the grip of primitive superstition when it demands abortion for the sake of the life and health of the mother.
Our good doctor from Philly has pointed out, the abortion for the sake of the mother’s health is a dodge. It means anything, including the fact she put a downpayment on a trip to Cancun, and her mental health would be irretrievably harmed if she looked pregnant in a bikini and ruined the pics.
As the saying goes, I s*** you not. I am not making up the story.
But what about the life of the mother? I am reminded of this story.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/abortion-debate-hospital-stripped-catholic-status/story?id=12455295
What the Bishop argued had the advantage of having the force of SCIENCE…
Let me repeat that word. SCIENCE…
…science behind it. Because a great many doctors weighed in, and after first caveating their statements by observing they did not personally treat this woman, a baby at 11 weeks of gestation simply does not put enough demands on a woman’s body to place her life at risk. That they had successfully treated women suffering from high blood pressure, which is what we’re talking about, without terminating the pregnancy.
And terminating the pregnancy is always an option. Shocka! I know. Catholic doctors at Catholic hospitals will terminate pregnancies. The difference is, when Catholic doctors at Catholic hospitals terminate pregnancies the “products of conception” don’t get chopped up and put in a lasagna dish in the refrigerator. No. The child goes into an incubator and they make every effort to keep her or him alive.
With the advances of SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY by the time a child has grown large enough to put enough stress on a woman’s body to put her life at risk, the child has grown large enough to be viable outside the womb given sufficient medical care. It is true that the child does not survive in every case, nor without significant long term health issues. But the chance is real and they take it.
I will not be exploring the principle of double effect in this comment, which is the principle that guides these decisions and also says I can shoot you if I see you beating my neighbor with a shovel.
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/8/2015 @ 10:06 amI don’t know of how one can save the life of the mother with an ectopic pregnancy without essentially performing an abortion for one scenario.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 8/8/2015 @ 10:18 amWhere do you get animosity from my remark? I just don’t understand what is fun about witnessing two people verbally abusing one another. But, it’s your life—enjoy!
hadoop (657247) — 8/8/2015 @ 2:57 pmActually hadoop most people in that room liked it, notice the laughter and applause spiked up when he cut off the question and said “Only Rosie O’donnel”
Maybe animosity was the wrong word. But you definitely were taking a pot shot at me simply because of what I find to be funny.
cya!
Gil (4e1585) — 8/8/2015 @ 6:35 pmWhatever! You seem to have a persecution complex that you obviously relish. Since I’m not “glued to the internet” with the exception of finding job related information, please don’t feel the need to respond. I don’t delight in the neurosis that manifests itself in comment blog sections.
hadoop (657247) — 8/9/2015 @ 5:58 amFrom what I understand, a third trimester in the womb is no longer essential for the baby, due to all the medical advances. By the time the third trimester comes along, the baby is viable outside the womb. This is my understanding, and no, I did not take any biology or anatomy classes in college, so I could be mistaken in what I read.
So, if a third trimester is not essential (but strongly advised), is it necessary to abort any baby at the third trimester to save the life of the mother? Or is just a premature delivery all it takes? I would be interested in knowing this.
John Hitchcock (016a55) — 8/9/2015 @ 6:53 amKevin M
It would be if he had such a position, but he doesn’t. You’re making it up.
Since, as far as I can tell, it isn’t his belief, he has no need to address it.
Mike K
Once again, as far as I know he made no such comment, and so did not cross any pale. When and where did you hear him make it?
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/9/2015 @ 8:05 amMegyn Kelly said that is what Scott Walker’s position is, and he didn’t dispute it saying that “I’ve said many a time that that unborn child can be protected, and there are many other alternatives that can also protect the life of the mother.”
.. which might be true 80% or 90% of the time – you could try a live birth in certain kinds of cases and see what happens – but maybe not 100% of the time. One particular kind of case s where the wpman has cancer and they want to adminsiter chemotherapy. They can’t, in good conscience, do it, while the baby is still inside. They can also wait, and there are other kinds of cases where they can also wait, but the chances of recovery would go up if the motehr was no longer carrying the baby, and what they actually do can depend upon what the feelings oof the family are, and/or how much they want the baby.
Sometimes the family will want to risk harming the baby, but not to abort the baby, and the doctors don’t want to do that. It’s aborting it or nothing.
Sammy Finkelman (047868) — 8/10/2015 @ 10:48 am