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8/5/2015

President Obama: The Iran Nuclear Deal Was A No-Brainer And Americans should be proud of this achievement

Filed under: General — Dana @ 6:09 pm



[guest post by Dana]

While President Obama continues making the rounds to sell his Iran deal to Congress, officials and the American people, Iran has been rather busy cleaning house:

The U.S. intelligence community has informed Congress of evidence that Iran was sanitizing its suspected nuclear military site at Parchin, in broad daylight, days after agreeing to a nuclear deal with world powers.

Reacting to the troubling news – which is not a violation of the agreement, but raises red flags about Iran’s intentions – officials expressed concern:

For senior lawmakers in both parties, the evidence calls into question Iran’s intention to fully account for the possible military dimensions of its current and past nuclear development. The International Atomic Energy Agency and Iran have a side agreement meant to resolve past suspicions about the Parchin site, and lawmakers’ concerns about it has already become a flashpoint because they do not have access to its text.

Intelligence officials and lawmakers who have seen the new evidence, which is still classified, told us that satellite imagery picked up by U.S. government assets in mid- and late July showed that Iran had moved bulldozers and other heavy machinery to the Parchin site and that the U.S. intelligence community concluded with high confidence that the Iranian government was working to clean up the site ahead of planned inspections by the IAEA.

Today found President Obama delivering a lengthy speech about the Iran deal at American University in Washington D.C. I read the full transcript so you wouldn’t have to. Here is a sampling so you can get the flavor of his speech:

I’ve had to make a lot of tough calls as president, but whether or not this deal is good for American security is not one of those calls, it’s not even close. Unfortunately, we’re living through a time in American politics where every foreign policy decision is viewed through a partisan prison, evaluated by headline-grabbing soundbites, and so before the ink was even dry on this deal, before Congress even read it, a majority of Republicans declared their virulent opposition.

But the notion that this will be a game-changer with all this money funneled into Iran’s pernicious activities misses the reality of Iran’s current situation.

Partly because of our sanctions, the Iranian government has over half a trillion dollars in urgent requirements, from funding pensions and salaries to paying for crumbling infrastructure.

Iran’s leaders have raised expectations of their people, that sanctions relief will improve their lives. Even a repressive regime like Iran’s cannot completely ignore those expectations, and that’s why our best analysts expect the bulk of this revenue to go into spending that improves the economy and benefits the lives of the Iranian people.

So let’s not mince words. The choice we face is ultimately between diplomacy or some form of war. Maybe not tomorrow, maybe not three months from now, but soon.

In fact, it’s those hardliners who are most comfortable with the status quo. It’s those hardliners chanting “Death to America” who have been most opposed to the deal. They’re making common cause with the Republican Caucus.

The majority of the Iranian people have powerful incentives to urge their government to move in a different, less provocative direction, incentives that are strengthened by this deal. We should offer them that chance. We should give them the opportunity.

So to friends of Israel and the Israeli people, I say this. A nuclear armed Iran is far more dangerous to Israel, to America, and to the world than an Iran that benefits from sanctions relief.

I recognize that prime minister Netanyahu disagrees, disagrees strongly. I do not doubt his sincerity, but I believe he is wrong. I believe the facts support this deal. I believe they are in America’s interests and Israel’s interests, and as president of the United States it would be an abrogation of my constitutional duty to act against my best judgment simply because it causes temporary friction with a dear friend and ally.

I do not believe that would be the right thing to do for the United States, I do not believe it would be the right thing to do for Israel.

If Congress kills this deal, we will lose more than just constraints on Iran’s nuclear deal or the sanctions we have painstakingly built. We will have lost something more precious: America’s credibility as a leader of diplomacy. America’s credibility is the anchor of the international system.

–Dana

61 Responses to “President Obama: The Iran Nuclear Deal Was A No-Brainer And Americans should be proud of this achievement”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. the incomparable Mr. sdferr nailed it earlier today I think

    sdferr says August 5, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    When in the summer of 2009 the decent Iranians only wanted out from under the ruling repression of the Mullahs with Khomeini’s absolutist regime founded on velayat-e faqih, when they rose as the Green movement to oust their tormentors, asking the ClownDeceptor “Obama! Are you with us or are you with the Mullahs and the IRGC?”, he answered them: I am with your jailers, peasants. Bow down with me to them.

    And now ClownDisaster speaks of the decent people of Iran as if they are their own oppressors; those religious tyrannical oppressors with whom he negotiates the permanent enslavement of the decent life-loving Iranians (along with the enslavement of wide swaths of the rest of the Middle East, Arabs foremost among them) who detest their despotic regime.

    This man has no shame. Even now as he meets with success he cannot tell the decent Iranians he only intends to punish his own nation and its former allies, and perhaps sooth the common Iranian’s injuries by means of an appeal to a familiar misery loving company. No. Instead he taunts them. He must lie to them even now. Well, they have surely learned never to expect an honest word from such a man as this. They have seen him many times before in their midst. For who among the Iranians is not familiar with their tyrants?

    happyfeet (831175)

  3. Obama is an insult to the office. He and his delusional Sec of State have put their faith in fundamentalist snakes and they are not up to the task of dealing with same.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  4. and here is the dicentra:

    This isn’t a failure of vision.

    Cripes.

    Obama (well, Iranian-born ValJar) wants Iran to become the regional hegemon, and they can’t become hegemon without nukes and money. So we’re giving them nukes and releasing their money.

    Why the HELL is anyone still taking Obama’s words as an indicator of his thinking process?

    Look at what the “treaty” DOES — that’s what he wants it to do. If it does not and cannot broker any degree of peace, it’s because he’s not interested in peace.

    NOT interested in a freaking “legacy” as a peacemaker.
    NOT interested in getting any deal at all, just for the sake of getting a deal.

    WATCH THE OTHER DAMNED HAND!

    He is NOT Neville Chamberlain, the well-intentioned but brutally stupid negotiator who didn’t realize who Hitler was until too late.

    He. Is. Pro. Iranian. He is DOWN with the Mullah’s intention to bathe the world in blood, thus to provoke the return of the 12th Madhi. I don’t know that Obama himself cares about the 12th Madhi, but upending the entire Middle East because Colonialism and Palestinians and Social Justice and Fundamental Transformation is very much within his mindset.

    Between the Shia and Sunnis, Obama/ValJar has decided that the Shia will triumph, Israel will be bombed out of existence, and the U.S. will lose its superpower status and become a corpse whose bones our erstwhile enemies will pick apart.

    Because we deserve it.

    Show me ONE THING Obama has done that rules out what I just said. ONE THING.

    Failure of vision my pasty white arse. Anyone who chalks up this Iran deal to incompetence or narcissism or stupidity is the Chamberlain in this scenario.

    happyfeet (831175)

  5. If we get another chance at liberty, I suggest fixing our education system. Start with a gosh darn Civics class.

    mg (31009b)

  6. The hard thing for people to get their head around is that a president would just out right lie. Even if it looks like a lie, sounds like a lie, and appears to be a lie, it is hard to believe a president would lie to your face and no one would call them on it, right?

    Colonel, shame on you for insulting the snake handlers of KY and the like. They are more worthy of trust than the mullahs or anyone seeking to make deals with them.
    Actually, one can trust the mullahs to do things that are bad for us and anyone else who is not a Shiite fundamentalist.

    [An OT should anyone wish to address it. One of daughter’s summer reading assignments is “Fast Food Nation”. I have heard hard core libs praise it and my random opening came to a page blaming Reagan for one thing or another. Is it as bad as I fear? Is there a rational response to it, if so?]

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  7. Responding to another portion shown on MSNBC….If anyone needs an example of someone who both opposed the Iraqi war and this deal with Iran, feel free to use me.

    kishnevi (294553)

  8. In fact, it’s those hardliners who are most comfortable with the status quo. It’s those hardliners chanting “Death to America” who have been most opposed to the deal. They’re making common cause with the Republican Caucus.

    What’s that line about people believing a lie if only it is big enough?

    felipe (56556d)

  9. A man like Obama, who sides with the enemy on major foreign policy issues, is a dangerous, divisive leader. He believes his own bullsh*t. That should be very sobering for thinking Americans.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  10. What I’ve been telling my daughter since she started school, MD, is to separate what she knows and what her teachers want her to know. She understands and she makes it work for her. Although I have to say that her teacher gave her an A+ for her presentation of Chris Kyle’s “American Snper” which was entirely the daughter’s choice; I would not have picked it for her.

    And, sorry, no clue about Fast Food Nation.

    nk (dbc370)

  11. Its terrible, and the author has moved ion nuclear weapons policy, what could go wrong.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  12. At least Neville Chamberlain occasionally shut up, and finally admitted he’d been wrong.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  13. narciso, any recommendations of a thorough (though polite so not to alienate) fisking?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  14. The hard thing for people to get their head around is that a president would just out right lie.

    Yes, MD… This has been true for several years now with this guy. And it’s despicable that the media – bought off with access and anal pork probing – have no interest… NONE!… in exposing the perfidy.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  15. through a partisan prison,

    Hopefully that’s where TFG ends up.

    Gazzer (f205c8)

  16. oh my. I just heard a clip of Obama talking condescendingly about people who are always wrong.

    Something about Alice telling Toto they aren’t in Wonderland anymore. Will the world survive to come to a place to realize just how totally BS’ed they were??

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  17. Great: The only Obama administration official to view confidential “side deals” between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) admitted Wednesday she and her team have only seen rough drafts.

    “I didn’t see the final documents. I saw the provisional documents, as did my experts,” said Wendy Sherman, a lead U.S. negotiator for the deal, at a Senate Banking Committee hearing.

    Sherman, undersecretary of State for political affairs, said she was only allowed to see the confidential deals “in the middle of the negotiation” when the IAEA “wanted to go over with some of our experts the technical details.”
    She maintained the deals — which focus on with Iran’s prior work on a bomb and access to Iran’s Parchin military site — are still confidential and can’t be submitted to Congress.

    Sherman said the U.S. did not protest to the confidentiality of the agreements, despite the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act demanding all related agreements, because the administration wanted the IAEA to respect the confidentiality of their agreements with the U.S.

    “We want to protect U.S. confidentiality. This is a safeguards protocol. The IAEA protects our confidential understandings and our confidential arrangements between the United States and the IAEA,” she said.

    However, later in the hearing, she walked back her comments about not seeing the final agreements.

    “I was shown documents that I believe to be the final documents, but whether, in fact, there are any further discussions…” she added, without finishing that sentence. Later, she said responded, “I have” when asked whether she saw the final versions of the deals.

    She also said “all of the P5+1” also saw the drafts, referring to all the six nations involved in the talks.

    Dana (86e864)

  18. Obama is about as wrong as wrong can be. Virtually everything he’s touched has turned to sh*t.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  19. We will have lost something more precious: America’s credibility as a leader of diplomacy. America’s credibility is the anchor of the international system.

    that sound you hear in the distanced is me gagging.

    No, we lost that about 1975 when we let S. Vietnam fall without keeping our treaty commitments,
    and we lost it again after some redemption with Reagan (facing down USSR) and Bush (being serious about Saddam’s breaking of agreements) when the dems undermined and lost Iraq.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  20. In fact, it’s those hardliners who are most comfortable with the status quo. It’s those hardliners chanting “Death to America” who have been most opposed to the deal. They’re making common cause with the Republican Caucus.

    The majority of the Iranian people have powerful incentives to urge their government to move in a different, less provocative direction, incentives that are strengthened by this deal. We should offer them that chance. We should give them the opportunity.

    The One, again, running through a field of strawmen with a rhetorical flamethrower. The man’s voice to me is now an irritant. What a complete a____. The man was blessed with the ability to make silly liberals feel good about themselves by supporting his empty leftist bromides. And stupid opponents who ran cowardly races lest they be called RAYCESS.

    No GOP president is going to go to war over this; There is no way to get the American public to support another war, which Obama knows. But allowing (encouraging?) someone else to defend themselves is a real possibility. If Iran is 6 months from a weapon, they will get a weapon anyway. And then it will be on the Saudis and Israel anyway.The deal under such circumstances as Obama so states it is by it’s own terms pointless. And why is a country $18 trillion in debt giving Iran ANYTHING?

    Don’t like going full Hitler, but this time the analogy is apt. Today’s idiocy is akin to saying in the late 1930s, forget all that world domination/Mein Kampf nonsense Hitler and the gang in charge say, there are good Germans who aren’t Nazis what ever the people in charge there say, day after day, every day. The stupidity of that is a stunning new low.

    Bugg (5f4a83)

  21. I got stuck on the foole’s concern for the Iranian peeps and their crumbling infrastructure. How about our crumbling infrastructure? This guy is truly without a clue. Is this somehow related to that earlier plan to end terrorism by getting these yay-hoos jobs?

    Gramps, the original (bc022b)

  22. Dana (86e864) — 8/5/2015 @ 7:06 pm
    So, with all of the lawyers in Congress, how many of them would tell a client to sign a deal that they don’t know all that it entails?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  23. There’s been speculation that Saudis already have nuclear capable missiles, provided by the Chinese. One location was the airbase the houthis mortared some weeks ago.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  24. My wish for today? Obama would resign and take his snake oil selling, hopenchange arse on the road and use it to improve Zimbabwe or some other third world shithole.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  25. My wish for today? Obama would resign and take his snake oil selling, hopenchange arse on the road and use it to improve Zimbabwe or some other third world sh*thole.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  26. I think our president has proved himself to be a world-class expert in no-brainers.

    Steven Den Beste (99cfa1)

  27. ” A nuclear armed Iran is far more dangerous to Israel, to America, and to the world than an Iran that benefits from sanctions relief.”

    So, he gives the Uraniums both.

    jb (8a9f1d)

  28. @22– Uh, Doc? That Congress full of lawyers did just that with the PPACA when they bought the “Keep your doctor; keep your plan” story and decided to “pass it to see what’s in it”. Like the joke goes, he knows what they are, he is just working on the price.

    Gramps, the original (bc022b)

  29. Chamberlain wanted the best for England.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  30. I think our president has proved himself to be a world-class expert in no-brainers.

    As much as I hate to disagree with Mr Den Beste, this is the kind of idiocy, like Marxism, that you have to be extremely intelligent to fall for. See Vizzini.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  31. Don’t know if this has already been posted in another thread, but here’s a worthwhilw clip of a top Iranian negotiator discussing the deal:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hIz_vkZH5k&feature=youtu.be

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  32. #20, What Bugg says.

    running through a field of strawmen with a rhetorical flamethrower

    and

    akin to saying in the late 1930s, forget all that world domination/Mein Kampf nonsense Hitler and the gang in charge say, there are good Germans who aren’t Nazis what ever the people in charge there say, day after day, every day. The stupidity of that is a stunning new low.

    Let’s hope that a few of the “debaters” tomorrow are equally clear on the situation.

    bobathome (601aa0)

  33. In loco Icy

    Robert Conquest ob.ann. 98

    kishnevi (82cec7)

  34. #31: Kevin, Obola only thinks he’s smart. His ignorance and lack of curiosity, amplified by his hubris, have ensured that he has never had to reconsider anything. Ditto Kerry. These are two-dimensional caricatures that have stumbled upon a niche in our four-dimensional world.

    bobathome (601aa0)

  35. I loathe Obama.

    JD (97a3e4)

  36. JD,

    I’ve noticed as time has past, that your comments about Obama have become more and more condensed. 🙂

    Dana (86e864)

  37. Obama is a pathological liar. An Emotionally disturbed and needy loser. Obama is a committed Marxist, and Obama is NOT, nor has he ever been a CHRISTIAN. Lying comes as naturally as a warm embrace with Reggie Love. Obama is a pathetic pile of schit.

    Gus (7cc192)

  38. No, we lost that about 1975 when we let S. Vietnam fall without keeping our treaty commitments,

    That was probably the most egregious example in US history, but it was far from the first. For instance in 1967 when Israel tried cashing in Eisenhower’s 1956 guarantee that, in return for Israel giving the Sinai back to Egypt, the USA would keep the Straits of Aqaba open to Israeli shipping. LBJ said “Guarantee? What guarantee?”. Or in 1961 when Indonesia invaded West New Guinea, and Australia tried calling on the ANZUS treaty, and JFK said “Not interested”.

    Milhouse (a04cc3)

  39. Like green eggs and ham.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  40. 20. 33.

    Today’s idiocy is akin to saying in the late 1930s, forget all that world domination/Mein Kampf nonsense Hitler and the gang in charge say, there are good Germans who aren’t Nazis what ever the people in charge there say, day after day, every day. The stupidity of that is a stunning new low.

    Obama completed the argumnt by saying that “Even a repressive regime like Iran’s cannot completely ignore those expectations” (of improved lives because of sanctions relief and so the money would be spent on fully funding their pensions and fixing crumbling infrastructure.)

    , you see, is a worldwide problem.

    And if Iran wanted the money, I suppose he emans to say they’d keep the agreement.

    But if Congress rejected the agreement, that would no longer be true, because the Iranian opposition, and the Iranian people, would regard a change in the agreement to the point where Iran got rid of all vestiges of its nuclear infrastructure, as a total surrender of their sovereignty, and they would never submit to that. Just like Greece didn’t, I suppose. The government wouldn’t be under pressure then to fully fund pensions and hire people to rebuild crumbling infrastructure, but they’d go full speed ahead on their nuclear program.

    Sammy Finkelman (8bf66e)

  41. Chamberlain wanted the best for England.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/5/2015 @ 8:09 pm

    While Hitler wanted Poland and much of the rest of the world…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  42. Seems a wee bit demeaning for the U.S. to be groveling to a bunch of lunatic theocrats what wear diapers and fan belts on their heads, but that’s just me.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  43. In fact, it’s those hardliners who are most comfortable with the status quo. It’s those hardliners chanting “Death to America” who have been most opposed to the deal. They’re making common cause with the Republican Caucus.

    It’s a straw man of course that Republicans want the status quo.

    But let’s go with it. By opposing this accommodation with the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism Republicans are making common cause with the Iranian hardliners. But Israel, from right to left, is unified against this deal. So by this calculus Israel is making common cause with Iranian hardliners.

    Anybody believe that?

    From the transcript:

    On the other hand, without this deal, the scenarios that critics warn about happening in 15 years could happen six months from now. By killing this deal, Congress would not merely Iran’s pathway to a bomb(WTF???), it would accelerate it.

    So, I gather if Congress kills this accommodation with the bloody-handed Mullahs Iran would accelerate its development of nuclear weapons.

    And it will be entirely the GOP’s fault!

    But wasn’t it just five minutes ago the Ear Leader was saying that the man he gives a tongue bath as Iran’s Supreme Leader had issued a fatwa saying under no circumstances would Iran develop or acquire atomic or nuclear weapons? That they were un-Islamic.

    So which is it, Prom Queen?

    The guy isn’t just insane and a liar. He’s a freakin’ idiot. I could come up with better lies than this braying jack@$$.

    But then I’d have to as I’m not a black Democrat.

    Steve57 (5a07a9)

  44. President Obama: The Iran Nuclear Deal Was A No-Brainer

    Well, in all honesty, it does strongly appear that no brains were used in making this deal…

    IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (225d0d)

  45. Involves criminal behavior? Check.

    Involves a current or former member of the Obama administration? Check.

    Involves compromising US national security? Check.

    Ok, not really O/T.

    http://nypost.com/2015/08/05/fbi-investigation-of-hillarys-emails-is-criminal-probe/

    The FBI investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s unsecured e-mail account is not just a fact-finding venture — it’s a criminal probe, sources told The Post on Wednesday.

    The feds are investigating to what extent Clinton relied on her home server and other private devices to send and store classified documents, according to a federal source with knowledge of the inquiry.

    “It’s definitely a criminal probe,” said the source. “I’m not sure why they’re not calling it a criminal probe…

    These national security investigations are always criminal probes, despite also involving other concerns. I can’t believe the lame spin. Essentially when the NYT broke the story they (shocka!) got it right the first time. Then the Hillary! campaign b1tched about it, and the NYT did them a favor.

    But it was a criminal probe from the start.

    May it not be the last one into the Obama crime ring.

    Steve57 (5a07a9)

  46. If Obama had set out to negotiate a good deal, he would not have declared from before negotiations began that it would not be submitted as a treaty. But he did do that, because he knew he could never get ratification of what he intended to do.

    But I must agree with him on one thing: the deal is a “no-brainer,” all right, just not in the way he means.

    Estragon (ada867)

  47. Possibly he even believes that pile of steaming horse-shit. That would be par for the course with TFG.

    mojo (a3d457)

  48. Obama’s stupidity, foolishness, vileness and meanness are, regrettably, a manifestation of all those Americans who continue to judge him more positively (or less negatively) than his predecessor, which is a reaction also reflected in surveys of Europeans.

    Modern-day liberalism really needs to be characterized as a mental illness, reflected in quite a large portion of the human species.

    Mark (78b181)

  49. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hIz_vkZH5k

    A thought.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  50. Thanks, Milhouse, for the additional examples. (FWIW, they predate my awareness of world events).

    JD is brilliant in his brevity. He would make a great WH press sec.
    “Yes”, next question.
    No, of course not.
    Did you really want to ask that question?
    Glare.

    and so one

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  51. The Iran Deal was a no brainer alright. No brains were used.

    Comanche Voter (1d5c8b)

  52. Greetings:

    As to the Planned Parenthood exposures, I’m a bit concerned by the continuing reference to “profiting” in some word form or other. Back in my printing days, we sometimes took on jobs that were not likely to produce any “profit” in the revenue minus costs sense. The underlying principle was referred to as “contribution to overhead” meaning that the revenue the job produced paid some rent, kept the lights on, and staff employed, etc. So, there were clear economic benefits to the firm regardless of the absence of profit.

    At this point, I can’t help but wonder if the denouement of all this won’t be some semantic version of “no profit, no problem”.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  53. ” ‘Peace’ is that happy delusion that you are not at war.” — attr. Wellington

    A ‘no brainer’, indeed. Can we impeach him for treason afterhe leaves office, to at least deprive him of the pension and Secret Service protection?

    htom (c138e0)

  54. This is Alan Dershowitz’s take on this fiasco:

    http://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Iran-Deal-Getting/dp/0795347561/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438879503&sr=8-1&keywords=case+against+iran+deal

    I used this site’s Amazon search tool for the link, so presumably any purchases will be credited to Patterico .

    The rats are fleeing the ship.

    bobathome (601aa0)

  55. Dana – I can express my feelings towards him in 142 words or 3, and the latter is more concise, succinct, and delivers the message just as powerfully. 😉

    JD (e16c02)

  56. Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/5/2015 @ 9:49 pm

    But wasn’t it just five minutes ago the Ear Leader was saying that the man he gives a tongue bath as Iran’s Supreme Leader had issued a fatwa saying under no circumstances would Iran develop or acquire atomic or nuclear weapons? That they were un-Islamic.

    I don’t see that in the speech. I think maybe Kerry said something like tthat. Obama has never professed to believe any fatwa would necessarily govern Iran’s conduct That’s not where the problem is.

    Obama’s claim is that the United States always waits until diplomacy is exhasuted. Like FDR did before Pearl Harbor. Or Neville Chamberlain in 1938.

    I don’t think President Kennedy woulds have endorsed quite exactly that policy…

    Obama’s claim is that seeing if this works carries less risk than Cold War nuclear arms accords because it does not disarm or limit the armaments of the United States like they did.

    It also doesn’t give much of an incentive for Iran to keep the deal.

    Obama claims they need the monmye for otehr things – they have to spend it on their people – but their people won’t want money on them if Iran loses has to dismantle its entire nuclear program in order to get the money. He claims critics who say Iran will do more if the deal is rejected are ignorant of Iranian society. They’ll support the government becaus ethey wouldn’t like to Iran lose its sovereignty. What we have now is the most, under any and all possible scenarios, that Iran
    do short of military attack. And, according to Obama, it’s good enough.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  57. An interesting ad on the subject, found here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBSlns7DwZQ

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  58. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/08/iaea-chief-stonewalls-congress.php

    …Amano wanted to convince Senators that the private side deals between Iran and the IAEA aren’t problematic and shouldn’t lead Congress to reject the deal.

    There was just one problem: Amano couldn’t provide any details about his agency’s confidential arrangement to examine Iran’s nuclear research to see if the mullahs are trying to develop a nuclear weapon.

    …Corker’s Democratic counterpart, ranking Democrat Benjamin Cardin of Maryland, also expressed disappointment. “I think there are provisions in the document that relate to the integrity of the review,” he said, stating the obvious.

    …If Congress isn’t permitted to find out what’s in the side agreements, it should reject the deal for that reason alone.

    From what I read the Obama administration, as in Kerry’s DoS, basically wrote the the confidential agreements and asked the IAEA to take responsibility for them precisely to hide the details from Congress.

    In any case, does anyone doubt Prom Queen would do that? Why, that’s hinting this Preezy would attempt to do an end run around Congress! Perish the thought.

    The secret agreements are especially significant given what we do know independently.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/08/speaking-of-the-iran-deal-13.php

    …The requirement was never, ever up for debate: Sherman in 2013: the JPOA requires Iran to “address past and present practices… including Parchin” [a]; Sherman in 2014: “as part of any comprehensive agreement… we expect, indeed, Parchin to be resolved” [b]; Harf in 2015: “we would find it… very difficult to imagine a JCPA that did not require such [inspector] access at Parchin” [c]; etc.

    …Now the punchline: Bloomberg View revealed this afternoon that the Iranians have spent the last few weeks busily trying to sanitize Parchin. So the administration blessed a deal in which they trusted the Iranians to provide evidence from Parchin, and the Iranians turned around and started destroying evidence at Parchin…

    This administration is betraying the country, and what is ironic is that Tiger Beat is demanding lock-step party unity on the issue.

    In other words, the marching orders are going out to the Democrats. Put the cult of Obama’s personality and legacy above country, above party, and above your own interests, and fall in
    line.

    No doubt enough Democrats will join Obama in this betrayal to give this anti-American his margin of victory. But every single Republican better know better than to cross the aisle.

    Let Obama howl and fling his own poo.

    Steve57 (5a07a9)

  59. Obama Rex, in full flower. Enjoy the rest of Captain Sandtrap’s reign.

    mojo (a3d457)


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