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8/4/2015

Fifth Planned Parenthood Video: Aborted Babies And Line Items

Filed under: General — Dana @ 6:59 pm



[guest post by Dana]

“If we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, then we can make it part of the budget”

– Melissa Farrell, Planned Parenthood official

The Center for Medical Progress released a fifth Planned Parenthood video today. The entire “industrialized sized operation of infanticide” that is Planned Parenthood has been laid bare for all to see. It is a house of horrors that boggles the mind. Democrats are too cowardly to actually watch the videos and continue to defend the organization. They studiously ignore that Planned Parenthood is trafficking in baby parts, and even more strenuously ignore the moral implications therein. Of course, they must. No one wants to be confronted by their own unrighteousness and see the blood on their hands.

In this fifth video, it appears that Planned Parenthood may be “selling the “fully intact” bodies of unborn babies purposefully born alive and left to die”. This is illegal under the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. Also in the video, a doctor discusses alterations in surgical procedures to ensure they obtain “intact fetal cadavers”. This is illegal under the National Institutes of Health Revitalization Act. As Hans Von Spakovsky notes, it is these legal concerns that demand a DOJ investigation of Planned Parenthood.

Consider yourselves warned. In the video, Melissa Farrell, director of research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, is shown gleefully admitting that dissecting a dead baby is fun:

“It would be exciting too if you needed it dissected, because LaShonda and I are the most Curious George of the group,” Farrell says. “I know it’s sickening on some level, but it’s fun.”


In the fifth of a series of videos from the Center for Medical Progress, a woman identified as Melissa Farrell, director of research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, discusses contributing to the organization’s “diversification of the revenue stream” and the potential to “get creative” with conditions for procurement needs. The video was reportedly filmed in April at a Planned Parenthood facility in Texas.

“Just depending on the patient’s anatomy, how many weeks, where it’s placed in the uterus … we’re going to potentially be able to have some that will be more or less intact and then some that will not be,” she says.

“But it’s something that we can look at exploring how we can make that happen so we have a higher chance,” she adds.

“And we’ve had studies in which the company, or in the case of the investigator, has a specific need for a certain portion of the products of conception and we bake that into our contract, and our protocol, that we follow this. So we deviate from our standard in order to do that.

If we alter our process and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, then we can make it part of the budget, that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this. I mean, it’s all just a matter of line items,” she says.

Planned Parenthood attempted to defend itself after the video’s release:

“The footage released today doesn’t show Planned Parenthood staff engaged in any wrongdoing or agreeing to violate any legal or medical standards,” Planned Parenthood Executive Vice President Dawn Laguens said in a six-paragraph statement.

“Instead, the latest tape shows an extremely offensive intrusion and lack of respect for women, with footage of medical tissue in a lab. These extremists show a total lack of compassion and dignity for women’s most personal medical decisions,” she added.

So deluded, they have no understanding that they are the very enemies of respect, compassion, and dignity.

-Dana

69 Responses to “Fifth Planned Parenthood Video: Aborted Babies And Line Items”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. And here comes the weirdness, in the face of this terrible story. Sigh.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  3. strange voices are saying

    WHAT DID THEY SAY

    things I can’t understand

    happyfeet (831175)

  4. How the hell do these people go home and sleep at night? I feel sick inside
    just listening to this stuff let alone have to see it, supervise and approve
    it.

    This deserves imprisonment and a public corporal punishment.

    jakee308 (c37f85)

  5. It’s BABIES!

    Dear God.

    I’m not given to emotional outbursts but this . . is infamous.

    jakee308 (c37f85)

  6. I think I’m going to be sick

    seeRpea (9f5b2d)

  7. You want depraved, well you got it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  8. As strong of an emotional reaction this video (and the other ones) compel, it is on the legal points that this fight will be won. Which is why there must be an investigation into PP. Do you see that happening?

    Dana (86e864)

  9. Dana, as I wrote on another thread, it has become a weird quasi-religious issue to the Left.

    This from people who are quite snippy about GMOs in their tortilla chips.

    Of course there should be an investigation. But the Clerisy won’t let that happen, I suspect.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  10. See what I mean, Dana?

    http://annfriedman.com/post/125888161478/the-womens-health-issues-pie-if-this-is-100

    You just need to change the topic and accuse investigators of not caring about poor women.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  11. Nothing makes me feel good about seeing a baby arm in a tray of other baby body parts.

    Dejectedhead (ec3741)

  12. Dana @8, perhaps a couple of nuggets of interest in this HotAir post:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/04/reminder-letter-to-la-hhs-from-planned-parenthood-gulf-coast-denied-allegations-corroborated-in-video/

    When the Center for Medical Progress first began releasing videos of its undercover investigations into Planned Parenthood, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal ordered an investigation into its practices in the state. After a query to the regional Planned Parenthood affiliate, Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, its president, Melaney Linton, sent a reply to Louisiana’s Department of Health and Hospitals denying any connection to organ harvesting or transfers. PPGC, Linton insisted, had no role in abortions or in brokering
    tissue:

    …Linton then offered a Q&A for very specific denials:

    PPGC didn’t know that the CMP already had the goods on them when Linton issued those lies.

    And TX is on the case:

    Update: Texas will “aggressively investigate” PPGC’s operations, Gov. Greg Abbott promised a few moments ago:

    “The latest video showing Planned Parenthood’s treatment of unborn children in a Houston clinic is repulsive and unconscionable. Selling baby body parts is the furthest thing imaginable from providing women’s healthcare, and this organization’s repeated and systematic disrespect for human life is appalling. The State of Texas is aggressively investigating this matter and must use all available legal remedies to address this depraved conduct.”

    Steve57 (5a07a9)

  13. Yes, I get it, Simon. Unfortunately, it’s the prevailing belief. I think that concerned Americans must not let up on the outrage and must make sure their congresspeople are get an earful of their outrage.

    I see it on two levels: the legal and the moral. PP won’t be defunded on moral grounds, but legal ones. That’s why I really pray an investigation by DOJ will happen, this in spite of AG Lynch’s personal views…

    The level that the heart must be hardened in order to look at the videos or read the transcripts is certainly overwhelming to me, but it’s necessary to realize that those who don’t think twice about it or can rationalize it, are the ones currently in control.

    Dana (86e864)

  14. Steve57,

    Thanks for the links. I imagine it will be up to the states given that the federal investigation will be of CMP, not the PP, StemExpress or the very contents of the video.

    Dana (86e864)

  15. The Obama judge made a mistake trying to suppress this. It will drag it out and the story will go until next year. It couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch, Im pro-choice but UC, Irvine got into a lot of trouble for selling donated body parts to courses on arthroscopy about ten years ago. This will not go away.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  16. Society is not whirling down the drain , it is in the drain.
    We have allowed deviancy to be so defined so low that this conduct did not even worry PP.
    They were worried about the tapes that will show racism or racial insensitivity.

    I am beginning to understand a bit more how an advanced civility of Germans and Austrians could have come up with the idea, plan and ability to commit a Holocaust.

    seeRpea (9f5b2d)

  17. I’m not complaining, but wasn’t there a court order to not show any more planned parenthood videos?
    I’m staring at this legal brief Alex sent me, which I will happily forward to anyone who sends me an email (address at this link)

    So does CMP risk some sort of repercussion, for telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth on a bunch of baby butchers?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  18. papertiger, the TRO applies only to the CMP. It does not and can not apply to any third party that the CMP provided videos before the TRO went into effect.

    Third parties that were not involved in the undercover operation and who possessed the videos before anybody brought legal action against the CMP can do what they want.

    Steve57 (5a07a9)

  19. It feels strange to write and use the words and letters,
    “the CMP” in any way other than referring to the Civilian
    Marksmanship Program.

    http://thecmp.org/

    I hope everybody has their Garand.

    Anyhoo, as I understand it NAF’s lawsuit can’t block any release of video that has absolutely nothing to do with the NAF.

    I’m less sure of my ground here. I do know that the Obama bundler’s unconstitutional TRO issued late last Friday, 31 July 2015, prohibited the CMP from doing anything with the videos from that time and date forward. But it couldn’t undo anything that the CMP had already done. Like, for instance, it couldn’t put the toothpaste back into the tube r.e. providing the video to the TX AG. The office of the TX AG had already confirmed on Wednesday, two days before the Obama bundler’s power grab, they had “hours” of undercover video.

    Who knows how many other such third parties exist?

    Steve57 (5a07a9)

  20. Mike K,

    I am curious about your reasons for being pro-choice. I know it’s a personal question, so don’t feel obligated to answer if you don’t want to.

    Dana (86e864)

  21. The restraining orders had nothing to do with the PP videos.
    one has to do with a conference where the recorders lied and deceived in order to get at the targets at a conference. they also signed contracts which served as the leverage for the restraining order.

    The other order was for dealing with stem cell “reseller?”. Similar methods as the prior one to the effect that a restraining order got placed, but it seems that recorders have a bit firmer ground to stand on once it gets to the docket.

    seeRpea (9f5b2d)

  22. I’m not complaining, but wasn’t there a court order to not show any more planned parenthood videos?

    No, there wasn’t. Two third parties, StemExpress and National Abortion Federation, each got an injunction to stop CMP from releasing the video of its meeting, so it hasn’t released either of those videos. We have no way of knowing whether it had originally planned to do so by now, or whether they were always down in the schedule.

    Milhouse (a04cc3)

  23. I’m less sure of my ground here. I do know that the Obama bundler’s unconstitutional TRO issued late last Friday, 31 July 2015, prohibited the CMP from doing anything with the videos from that time and date forward

    Only that specific video. And Eugene Volokh wrote that the order might well be constitutional. The StemSense injunction was also only for one video. CMP remains free to do whatever it likes with all the other ones.

    Milhouse (a04cc3)

  24. one has to do with a conference where the recorders lied and deceived in order to get at the targets at a conference.

    Allegedly.

    Milhouse (a04cc3)

  25. re #24: nothing “alleged” about it, CMP does not dispute NAF’s leverage points.

    Critically, the parties do not disagree about NAF’s central allegations: defendants assumed false identities, created a fake company, and lied to NAF in order to obtain access to NAF’s annual meetings and gain private information about its members. To do so, defendants entered into confidentiality agreements in which they promised not to disclose to third parties “any information which [was] disclosed orally or visually” to them or to other members without NAF’s consent. Defendants also did not dispute that the Exhibitor Agreement that they signed, giving them access to the NAF annual meetings, states that NAF would be entitled to injunctive relief in the event of a breach because monetary damages would not be a sufficient remedy.

    this would be a doozy of a court case. even if NAF won you would think it would be like a publisher winning a libel suit despite having disregard for the truth proven but not malice.

    seeRpea (9f5b2d)

  26. Given this terrible story, I wonder is every Christian who pays taxes that in turn fund Planned Parenthood is sinning.

    Gil (4e1585)

  27. No more than Christians who, on Jesus’s advice, paid Caesar’s taxes were thereby responsible for the brutal murders, robberies, and rapes he and his army committed. Or any more than people who pay protection money to the mafia are thereby responsible for its crimes. One pays taxes because one has no other reasonable choice. Tax protesting is not a sensible hill to die on.

    Milhouse (a04cc3)

  28. I am pro-legal abortion (Not “pro-choice”, a clever name for people who aren’t willing to say what they are for), and this event and others like it are why I am reasonably sure that I will see Abortion broadly illegal in most States in my lifetime. The “Pro-Choice” side simply cannot be bothered to not self-destruct. Too busy, or politically correct, or something, to investigate serious charges against a Black abortionist until his Grand Guignol career blows up all over them. Too sure they are above reproach to actually follow the goddamned rules. All we need now is for a couple of “Pro-Choice” Feministas to smuggle a minor across state lines to evade a Parental Notification law, only to have her die of complications. It’s going to happen, and probably sooner than later.

    And when Abortion is illegal in every state except Nevada they will spend billions fighting a fight they have already lost through arrogance instead of using the same money to run busses to Vagas.

    C. S. P. Schofield (ab2cdc)

  29. Hard to believe the world I live in.
    Barbaric.

    mg (31009b)

  30. 26.Given this terrible story, I wonder is every Christian who pays taxes that in turn fund Planned Parenthood is sinning.

    Back bitchin’ at the Christians, Gil? Is there no other topic you are capable of conversing on? You are becoming the most boring poster on earth, rapidly. Are all atheists this narrow of vision and bereft of original thought? For a person who doesn’t believe in God or Christianity you sure are obsessed with God and Christianity.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  31. I can name one atheist who is not narrow of vision or bereft of original thought: Machinist. Now he is someone to whom it is worth listening.

    felipe (56556d)

  32. gil, not so much not at all.

    felipe (56556d)

  33. There was another atheist fellow a while ago, from NYC, into martial arts, who wholeheartedly agreed that secularism was as much a religion as any other, recognizing that one has to make a choice about what is ultimate in our existence, and that is the essence of religious belief, whether it is a monotheistic belief, some “vital life force”, or Sagan’s materialism.
    but Patterico and he got into it about something in economic theory or some such.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  34. Guys, I understand how some people are one trick ponies but constantly bemoaning Christianity with him has become a psychotic obsession. He’s moving closer and closer to Rainman with every post. In fact, it seems there was one child left behind.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  35. I changed a portion of the post. At the “consider yourselves warned” portion, I was concerned the quote was not enough of a warning regarding the video, and so I used this instead:

    In the video, Melissa Farrell, director of research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, is shown gleefully admitting that dissecting a dead baby is fun:

    “It would be exciting too if you needed it dissected, because LaShonda and I are the most Curious George of the group,” Farrell says. “I know it’s sickening on some level, but it’s fun.”

    Dana (86e864)

  36. Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 8/5/2015 @ 6:12 am

    No argument from me on that count. When you are right, you are right.

    felipe (56556d)

  37. “I know it’s sickening on some level, but it’s fun.”

    This is Farrell being “sensitive.”

    felipe (56556d)

  38. So there may be something to the idea of reincarnation after all. Here she is in a new
    persona: Ilse Koch, the Bitch of Buchenwald.

    Bar Sinister (b48c12)

  39. “So there may be something to the idea of reincarnation after all. Here she is in a new
    persona: Ilse Koch, the Bitch of Buchenwald.”

    Well, certainly the same mind-set. But no lamp shades with tattoos – yet.

    PPs43 (6fdef4)

  40. Bar Sinister, I’m not sure if it’s the idea of reincarnation or the reincarnation of bad ideas but leftism seems to never die just pass from generation to generation without anyone seeing it just won’t work.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  41. Or perhaps those things we see as glitches to them are actually features. A few million Jews here, a few million fetus’s there pretty soon we have a final solution. oops! Did I say that?

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  42. Mr 308 wrote:

    How the hell do these people go home and sleep at night? I feel sick inside just listening to this stuff let alone have to see it, supervise and approve it.

    This deserves imprisonment and a public corporal punishment.

    Alas! That certainly deserves it, but we won’t get that. The best we can do, now, is complete social ostracization of everyone, and I mean everyone, clerks, technicians, janitors as well as “doctors” and “nurses,” who works for any abortion facility. Do not be friends with them, do not be nice to them, do not be any more polite to them than the law requires. Do not have them in your homes, do not associate with them, treat them no differently than you would a child rapist. Do not do business with them.

    Child rapists, after all, have only a few victims, maybe a few dozen at worst, while abortionists have killed millions.

    The very Catholic Dana (f6a568)

  43. You’re right, Dana. It would be like having Koch or Mengele for afternoon tea.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  44. y’all are kinda overreacting, many of you

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  45. that’s exactly what a protogen mouthpiece would say,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  46. well just know i mean it in a constructive and thoughtful way

    y’all are just exhausting me with all this angst and emotion my goodness

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  47. Mr. Tony Chachere didn’t even start his food business until he was well into his 60s

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  48. Mr. Tony Chachere didn’t even start his food business until he was well into his 60s

    But his products were not cacher.

    Milhouse (a04cc3)

  49. it’s the only way i know how to fix squash really

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  50. OK. What we have here is the flip side of the mistake the Pro-Choicers make when they dismiss the idea that pro-life people could believe that a fetus is human and go looking for other motivations like “They just want to dominate women”. The Planned Parenthood people (and the vast majority of Pro-Choice folk) do not believe that a fetus is human. It is, therefore, tissue of no special importance, and if it has value to medical research it just makes sense to sell it to people who will use it.

    Their fundamental assumption is different. They aren’t taking about babies.

    Now, we can argue that they are wrong (I happen to agree with them, BTW), but we don’t get to tell them what they believe.

    What pisses ME off is that they are going to take something they (claim to) value and piss it down the drain. Yes, from their point of view, the lawed against selling fetal tissue make no sense. But if you are in a contentious business and there are dedicated people trying to put you out of business, YOU MAKE SURE THE “i”s ARE DOTTED AND THE ‘T”s ARE CROSSED. And if you don’t, and you get caught breaking the law, your political opponents get to take your arrogance and give you a brisk old-fashioned buggering with it.

    The legality of abortion is going to get trashed by the people who claim to support legal abortion, because they can’t be bothered to consider that other people might disagree with them.

    C. S. P. Schofield (ab2cdc)

  51. 47. y’all are kinda overreacting, many of you

    happyfeet (a037ad) — 8/5/2015 @ 11:24 am

    Yeah, it isn’t like these people at PP did something really bad like refuse to bake gay people a wedding cake which we all know is just rude and de classe and not at all what Jesus would have wanted.

    These PP people merely ripped tiny little human beings apart with forceps, some at an age where they could have survived outside the womb, which is totally awesome and just how Jesus wanted it.

    And look on the bright side! If PP can’t sell all the livers to medical researchers, they may have just found a Kali-legal source or pâté de foie gras as no precious geese or other important critters were harmed in its production.

    And could use the rest to make a tasty paella for your next gay wedding reception.

    So everybody lighten up!

    Steve57 (5a07a9)

  52. Also a PETA approved source of leather.

    Perhaps every PP affiliate should have a gift shop where you can buy canned goods, soaps, and other assorted items made from the “byproducts of conception.”

    Steve57 (5a07a9)

  53. Oh, did I mention those tiny little human beings were alive when the nice, friendly PP abortionists who admit they like to get all “Curious George” with the body parts as it’s fun for them to poke through those trays tore them to bits?

    Steve57 (5a07a9)

  54. The Planned Parenthood people (and the vast majority of Pro-Choice folk) do not believe that a fetus is human. It is, therefore, tissue of no special importance, and if it has value to medical research it just makes sense to sell it to people who will use it.

    C.S.P. Schofield,

    If the supporters of PP and pro-choicers don’t believe it is a human, why do you think they are avoiding watching the videos? If they thought it was just tissue, wouldn’t they be willing to watch it to use it even more as a weapon in the Republican’s War Against Women??

    Further, in the videos, they clearly refer to them as human – baby legs, arms, “it’s a boy”…

    Dana (86e864)

  55. Dana;

    Don’t make the mistake that the Pro-Choice people make. They refuse to start from the Pro-Life assumption that a fetus is human, and therefore arrive at the whole Pro-life movement being run by Misogynistic Paternalistic swine.

    I’ll admit that these people COULD be truly evil. But if you START from that assumption – the assumption based on the assumption that a fetus is human AND THEY KNOW IT – you aren’t going to convince anybody who doesn’t already agree with you.

    Or, you are. You’re going to convince them you’re a raving nut.

    What needs to be hit here (by you because you want Planned Parenthood disgraced, and I because I want the Pro-Choice side to FRICKIN’ LEARN SOMETHING FROM THIS!) is that, regardless of motive, these people were conspiring to break the law, because they are arrogant twits who think the rules don’t apply to them. Which brings up the question; how safe are their facilities? What other corners are they cutting? What ELSE are they lying about?

    C. S. P. Schofield (ab2cdc)

  56. oh my goodness Mr. 57 gosh golly you work up a head of steam

    happyfeet (831175)

  57. And your act is stale, and boring.

    ropelight (583296)

  58. the important thing is that the lifeydoodles get it all out of their system quick quick quick as a bunny Mr. ropelight

    there’s serious issues on the whiteboard

    there’s obamacare

    there’s iran

    there’s the fed and this whole creepy-assed teeter-totter economy

    we have to get to work

    we don’t have time to break out the smelling salts for the doodles every five minutes

    happyfeet (831175)

  59. C.S.P., we’re not most of us Quakers. We’re not interested in using gentle persuasion on baby-killers. We want 51% of lawmakers to agree that unborn babies need to be protected. That’ll be enough. And then we’ll put the baby-killers out of business or in jail. They can go on believing whatever they want, just as long as they’re incapacitated from practicing their beliefs.

    nk (dbc370)

  60. But if you START from that assumption – the assumption based on the assumption that a fetus is human AND THEY KNOW IT – you aren’t going to convince anybody who doesn’t already agree with you.

    So if I were to start from the assumption that a Jew is human AND THE NAZIS KNEW IT no one who disagrees will be convinced? Absolutely! Which is why as nk put it we are not Quakers interested in gentle persuasion. But the Nazi’s were evil and the baby killers are evil and they should all be put out of business and punished. The only difference between Nazi’s murdering millions of Jews they considered sub-human and abortionists murdering millions of babies they consider sub-human is the Nazi’s murdered fewer Jews.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  61. Once the life of the baby is devalued then the elderly are devalued. Soon the sick and injured are devalued then it follows those who aren’t sane, or smart or beautiful or strong or rich. Pretty soon the only one left will be me. Then you’ll be sorry!

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  62. i think the good reverend should have the last word on this subject

    thank you Mr. Reverend

    happyfeet (831175)

  63. C.S.P. Schofield,

    I don’t care about changing minds. Because I can’t. I don’t care about shaming Planned Parenthood. They are living shrine to shame and disgrace. I care about PP being forced to stop butchering babies and not have taxpayers fund their deviant schemes. I care that the “work” being done by all the little Mengeles in white lab coats is exposed for what it really is. I care about the organization having the ever loving shit kicked out of them by the court of public opinion and by those who know that the slicing and dicing of babies is evil. I care that they are found guilty by a court of law and are defunded.

    Changing the minds of these foul crushers and crunchers? That’s Gods job and I’m pretty sure He’s up to the task if that’s what He wants. I’m nobody to change hearts. But I recognize evil when I see it.

    Dana (86e864)

  64. Once the life of the baby is devalued then the elderly are devalued.

    How a society treats its weakest and most vulnerable is always a dead giveaway.

    Dana (86e864)

  65. The pro-choice people don’t care, they want what they want which is to not be bothered by a pregnancy they find inconvenient.
    And the SCOTUS said, yeah, we can’t answer the question, so we will not “play it safe” but let people do what they want.
    Like much of the left’s thinking, they want what they want because they want it, and there is no other controlling principle involved.

    Something about epistemological closure.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)


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