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7/16/2015

Shootings At Two Military Facilities in Tennessee, Four Marines Killed

Filed under: General — Dana @ 1:22 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Four Marines have been killed in an attack on two separate military facilities in Tennessee. A Marine recruiter and police officer were also injured in the attack. The gunman was killed.

The shooting incident began on the U.S. Naval Recruiting on Lee Highway in Chattanooga ended at the U.S. Naval Reserve Center on Amincola Highway Thursday morning about 11am.

The gunman’s name was not immediately released, and authorities offered no immediate information on a motive. Bill Killian, the top federal prosecutor for eastern Tennessee, said the attack was being investigated as an act of domestic terrorism.

The shootings happened about 40 minutes and six miles apart, first at a military recruitment station and then at a Navy and Marines reserve center. A defense official said the gunman used an automatic weapon.

Authorities said they had no reason to believe anyone else was involved in the shooting. They also said there was no intelligence indicating the attack ahead of time. Several defense officials said there was still change in alert status for U.S. military installations.

Per CBS News’ Twitter feed:

CBS News ‏@CBSNews 31m31 minutes ago

NEW: #Chattanooga shooting suspect ID’d as Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, law enforcement sources tell CBS News http://cbsn.ws/1K9FseQ

Added: According to NBC News, Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez is a naturalized U.S. citizen from Kuwait.

Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch is reporting that ISIS tweeted, “O American dogs soon YOU will see the wonders,” and used #Chattanooga, at 10:34 a.m., which is around the same time police claim the attack began.

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–Dana

UPDATE BY PATTERICO: The 10:34 a.m. time stamp was from a screenshot taken in a different time zone. The actual tweet came hours after the attack.

Workplace violence!

ADDED: President Obama described the Marines’ deaths as a “heartbreaking circumstance for these individuals who have served our country with great valor.”

Michelle Malkin fixes it for him: Lightning strikes are “heartbreaking circumstances.” Systemic assassinations of our troops is an act of war, fool==>

82 Responses to “Shootings At Two Military Facilities in Tennessee, Four Marines Killed”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez.

    Hmm, must be another Lutheran or Methodist with Tea Party sympathies.

    Virginia SoCon (8eb3c5)

  3. Added: According to NBC News, Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez is a naturalized U.S. citizen from Kuwait.

    Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch is reporting ISIS made this tweet:

    “O American dogs soon YOU will see the wonders,”

    and used #Chattanooga, at 10:34 a.m., just about the same time police say the shooting began

    Dana (86e864)

  4. I’m certain it will turn out to be yet another white Christofascist supremacist male angered by taking down the Confederate battle flag.

    The multicultural Dana (f6a568)

  5. Here is the ISIS tweet that was apparently posted before there were any reports of the shooting.

    DRJ (1dff03)

  6. At least the report says they are considering it an act of terrorism and not work place violence.
    Though not sure how “domestic” it is if done in conjunction with ISIS.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  7. “O American dogs soon YOU will see the wonders,”

    That sounds strangely similar to what payback said on the other link.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  8. I’ve added a screenshot of the tweet allegedly sent by ISIS.

    Dana (86e864)

  9. Clearly workplace violence, likely protesting Donald Trump’s haircut.

    ropelight (5d5ae0)

  10. There is a Tea Partier with that name in Kenosha, WI

    JD (b60092)

  11. Lone crazy man that has nothing to do with Islam or ISIS.

    Tanny O'Haley (c674c7)

  12. The argument for more gun control will no doubt begin at any moment because jihadists always follow the gun laws of any given country. I want to know why military personnel weren’t armed?

    Dana (86e864)

  13. we have to help find jobs for these people

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  14. Why does “ISIS” get a Twitter account? That doesn’t make sense. Bad Twitter.

    Leviticus (f9a067)

  15. Leviticus

    Some people who don’t know you may take your comment differently than it was intended

    EPWJ (c12453)

  16. Word on the street is that this is directly related to the flying of the “Confederate” flag.

    Lorem Ipsum (cee048)

  17. I wonder if Bill Clinton is proud that he disarmed our officers and NCO’s due to his fear of gun violence among the military?

    Will Hillary “stand by her man”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/11/end-clinton-era-military-base-gun-ban/

    EPWJ (c12453)

  18. if you look at the pictures of the recruiting station, there’s a gun free zone sign on the door.

    w*rked real well, didn’t it?

    redc1c4 (4db2c8)

  19. According to this report by U.S. Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, is chairman of the House Subcommittee on Terrorism, Nonproliferation and Trade, there are two reasons argued against the government shutdown of terrorist twitter accounts:

    “The first — and easiest to set aside — is the claim that if the U.S. government were to shut down terrorists’ social media accounts, these measures would be violating terrorists’ free speech rights.

    My own belief is that the Constitution does not apply to terrorists.

    These thugs gave up their right to free speech the first time they killed innocent civilians. We should certainly not be helping them kill more. But this isn’t just my thinking.

    The Supreme Court has already held this to be the case in Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project, when it ruled that if someone has aided a terrorist organization, their free speech rights were not protected. Indeed, free speech does not apply when it harms others, such as creating and distributing child pornography.

    The second argument is that terrorists’ use of social media provides the intelligence community with information that they would not otherwise be able to acquire. But while terrorists may slip up from time to time, they are also aware that by its very nature, social media is about sharing, which means what they say can easily become widely shared.

    Nor is terrorist use of social media a new phenomenon. We have had years to weigh the kind of intelligence that we can gather about terrorist groups against the advantages in messaging and recruitment that terrorists gain from it. And from what I have heard, allowing this public, online jihad to continue has provided no significant intelligence breakthroughs. The fact that there are more terrorists using social media than ever before should say all we need to know about whether they are benefiting from it.”

    He concludes: “In 2011, the White House promised a strategy to prevent online radicalization. But more than three years later — and despite a summit last week aimed at tackling extremism — we are still waiting on a that strategy. Without one, the federal government’s efforts to combat terrorist use of social media will be as haphazard and lackluster as the efforts of private social media companies. Instead, we need a strategy that clearly articulates our goals and roles, and the responsibilities of each federal agency that needs to be involved, as well as how we are going to work with civil society. “

    Dana (86e864)

  20. Why does “ISIS” get a Twitter account? That doesn’t make sense. Bad Twitter.

    It’s probably in our interest to let ISIS have a Twitter account. Perhaps they will get sloppy and provide us some tips on where their operatives are. It looks from the screenshot like some people retweeted the ISIS tweet. We might want to be learning more about who they were and perhaps scheduling a drone visit their way.

    JVW (05e1e2)

  21. Prayers for the Marines, Families and Friends.

    mg (31009b)

  22. Dana is right. It’s time to reconsider why we don’t like members of our military be armed, especially at their own recruiting station.

    DRJ (1dff03)

  23. Drudge is reporting that Mr. Trump is demanding an end to gun free zones on these military bases

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  24. Historically, one objection to arming military members is because we want to avoid even the military could to be used domestically in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. But the reality is our military is a target of terrorists, and we are preventing them from protecting themselves and us. They should at least have the same ability to protect themselves as any other target, like the White House and the Capitol, so either provide armed guards at every military location or let them carry their own.

    DRJ (1dff03)

  25. I left out a word. That should say “Historically, one objection to arming military members is because we want to avoid even the appearance the military could be used domestically …”

    DRJ (1dff03)

  26. Possibly because it’s the end of Ramadan.

    Seriously, that was in the media today. When Lent ends, I usually just eat and drink the stuff I gave up.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  27. I left out a word. That should say “Drudge is reporting that Mr. Trump’s hair is demanding an end to gun free zones on these military bases…”

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  28. It’s sadly ironic that the military, whose charge is to protect the interest of America’s citizens as well as defend them, have been rendered impotent to the very job that defines them.

    Dana (86e864)

  29. I dunno, Coregis. Marines have their social standards….

    Richard Aubrey (f6d8de)

  30. A few more of these Islamic terrorist attacks and we’ll just have to ban the ISIS flag.

    ropelight (5d5ae0)

  31. UPDATE BY PATTERICO: The 10:34 a.m. time stamp was from a screenshot taken in a different time zone. The actual tweet came hours after the attack.

    Workplace violence!

    Patterico (3cc0c1)

  32. Thanks for the update about the tweet.

    Dana (86e864)

  33. ADDED: President Obama described the Marines’ deaths as a “heartbreaking circumstance for these individuals who have served our country with great valor.”

    Michelle Malkin fixes it for him: Lightning strikes are “heartbreaking circumstances.” Systemic assassinations of our troops is an act of war, fool==>

    Dana (86e864)

  34. As I am bracing myself for the inevitable lecture about how this has nothing to do with Islam. That Islam is a religion of peace, and that Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez is twisting it out of all recognition.

    And possibly a replay of what Prom Queen clearly thinks is a masterstroke of insight and logic. Just like ISIS leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez is not a cleric.

    So a stray thought occurred to me. He just concluded a nuclear deal with the Mullahs in Iran. Who are clerics; the leading clerics in twelver Shiism, the largest contingent in Shia Islam.

    And these clerics lead chants of “death to America” and “death to Israel” just as enthusiastically as any other Muslims. Because as the leading state sponsor of terrorism in the world, who put bounties on the heads of US servicemen, and who have killed more US citizens than any other terror group, they have concluded the same thing about what Islam requires.

    So I’m curious if at any point Imams Kerry and Obama told them they’re hijacking a great religion of peace, that they just don’t understand their own religion, and they’re just doing it wrong?

    Steve57 (4c9797)

  35. How many more Americans have to die before we stop allowing these animals to emigrate?

    Bugg (5f4a83)

  36. deja vu, all over again,

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/06/02/free-speech-and-islamic-sensibilities-bill-killian-tony-blair/

    no he’s an ansar, a mere assistant,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  37. http://www.reporternews.com/lifestyle/faith-and-values/obama-finds-sermon-on-the-mount-elevates

    In a 2006 speech here, then-Sen. Barack Obama said Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount was so “radical” the Defense Department wouldn’t survive its application…

    Our Defense Department may not survive Barack Obama in any great shape to fight due to budget cuts.

    But thanks to Obama, the elite terrorist arm of the Tehran clerics’ Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the Quds force, will get a massive budget increase.

    If they’re hijacking a great religion of peace, why is Obama funding them?

    Steve57 (4c9797)

  38. ‘an obscure passage in Romans’ also Corinthians, 2 Timothy, and a few others.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  39. Obama is absolutely sure this was a “lone gunman”, said nothing about an investigation or getting to the bottom of it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  40. The shooter was an all-American boy, handsome and polite. Of course.

    Dana (86e864)

  41. you have to work to be this clueless:

    http://therightscoop.com/is-muhammad-youssef-abdulazeez-a-muslim-name-cnns-analyst-just-cant-tell/

    btw, he was one of the bureau’s men, who bought all the detainee stories about interrogations,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  42. Although the lunacy of political correctness has gotten so bad that even the US military is corrupted by it, it’s far worse within the inner sanctum of the “give a shout out” White House (ie, the totally inappropriate, light-hearted opening of the speech that its current occupant gave the day after the Fort Hood massacre).

    If the Islamfascists insist on targeting locations in the US, hell, aim for where idiocy runs paramount. Aim for 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Mark (627bb9)

  43. Why is the Secret Service still armed?

    Prayers for the Marines, their families and friends, and all of us. Semper Fi.

    htom (4ca1fa)

  44. It should be an extra special kind of treason when a naturalized citizen commits it. They took an oath by choice.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  45. Either we gave them refuge and they betrayed us, or they came here to betray us.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  46. Round Zem Up, gosh darn it. OK, don’t. Finish living your life looking over your shoulder for people that should be DEAD. ACHTUNG WHITEY.

    mg (31009b)

  47. Anyone seen the outrage from the moderate muzzies? No, shucks, maybe tomorrow they will let us know they are sorry.
    Time for all good men to come to the aid of our country.

    mg (31009b)

  48. Reports indicate despite almost certainly claiming refugee status,Daddy Jihadi-like the Tsarnaevs, the unsuccessful Times Square bomber, and pretty much every other “lone wolf”-traveled back to the old country he claimed to have been persecuted by such requiring becoming a refugee. Does our government have a clue? Is there anyone who knows what they’re doing or has an ounce of common sense?

    And when another ADHD kid goes off his meds and shoots up a school after the feds fail to bother doing background check, no doubt The One will be on the warpath against legal gun ownership.ANOTHER LONE WOLF ISLAMIC MURDERER? No statement other than BS warning of “caution” and a gushing piece of happytalk wishing his co-religionists an end to Ramalamdingdong that makes his statements, if any, around Christmas, Easter and Thanksgiving sound like insults.

    Bugg (5f4a83)

  49. 49.Anyone seen the outrage from the moderate muzzies?

    And no one will, mg. There are no “moderate” moslems. That was a term made up by our politically correct government and media so as not to paint The Religion of Peace in a negative light. There is no room for religious moderation in Islam, period. There are terrorists and terrorist enablers. Just like the people who allowed the nazi’s to take over and murder millions, those who the left call moderates are just enablers by another name. Exatly whose side do you think they’d be on in a religious war? The Christians and Jews of the USA, the secular goverment of the USA or Islam?

    Exactly why we (the government) allows enemies of the United States to immigrate here is beyond me. Moslems have absolutely nothing in common with the republic, society, culture, history or traditions of the United States. So what the hell are they doing here? Why would they want to be among non-bekievers? Why would religious fascists want to live under a Constitutional republic? Because they are Islams 5th column. They’re no better than nazi’s hiding behind a thin vail of religion which is only bought into by weak-kneed leftists like Obummer and Pajama Boy. #WeAreAllTargets.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  50. Think of peaceful Muslims as typical Christians and Jews– that is, ignoring much of what their nominal “holy text” says should and should not be done (eg., most Christians are not evangelists, most Jews are not ultra-orthodox.)

    htom (4ca1fa)

  51. 41. Defining away independent progress toward widely understood goals as ‘randomness’ is entirely self-serving obfuscation.

    Science is such a discipline, whose participants spend $billions$ without cooperation on tightly controlled protocols without knowing anything of peers practical efforts.

    SmegmaBreath is a collaborator in Islam’s global effort for domination, this regardless whether, in his heart of hearts, he is an atheist.

    DNF (208255)

  52. The actual reason the first Bush banned firearms on military bases was because of accident. Firearms in everyone’s hands caused X number of accidents per year, and without caused Y and there was no other cost.

    Now there is another cost.

    luagha (983dfe)

  53. What you fail to grasp, htom, is when a Christian becomes radicalized he becomes an evangelical, when a Jew he becomes Orthodox when a moslem he becomes a murderous bomb detonating, mass shooting terrorist. Big difference.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  54. Hasn’t it always been a rule that soldiers get to keep their rifles but they don’t get to keep ammunition? What changed? That officers, NCOs and MPs no longer can have loaded sidearms, either?

    nk (dbc370)

  55. At least in basic, soldiers have to keep their weapons with them at all times, but ammunition is strictly controlled.

    The Army daddy Dana (f6a568)

  56. nk — MPs on duty may be armed. All others shelter in place. (Almost irrelevant: in the 1960s, to bring a personal firearm onto base you had to check it in at the gate, who would record make, model, serial number and your ID. When you left with it, through the same gate, the firearm was checked against the recorded checkins, and you were allowed to go on your way, with the sheet if you wanted. If you didn’t want, that you’d left with it was recorded, and the sheet filed so when you next brought it, you didn’t have to fill in all of that, just the new entry date was recorded.)

    Hoagie — all religions have fruitcakes. Oh, let’s have a song Jimmy Buffett — Fruitcakes

    htom (4ca1fa)

  57. The Officer Corps has always been concerned, from time immemorial, that the troops would turn their weapons upon them. It was a check against their A$$ Hattery.
    Our Perfumed Princes of the Puzzle Palace have created a paranoia-free zone for themselves.
    It is the triumph of the Richard Craniums.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  58. I’m for making the White House and Capitol gun free zones. Let’s see how they like it.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  59. Now there are reports the lone wolf did in fact visit Jordan himself, which AGAIN failed to set off any alarm bells nor and review of his family’s refugee status. So make up a story, move to the USA, get all the benefits, and openly plot jihad, no biggie, welcome to the multi culti insanity that is America under The One. Even go home to the place that supposedly was so awful you moved here, still, no change in the fed monolith to look at you. Basically they’ve figured out the game, and the feds aren’t sharp enough to catch up. Or worse, don’t care, lest they be called RAYCESS.

    Bugg (5f4a83)

  60. Tradionally, enlisted troops are only armed when under command. This has more to do with worrying about some private taking exception to the sergeants assignments to KP than any worry about civilians, but I’m also sure that this is a small factor. The other issue is that the military is definitely a “one size fits all” organization. Worry about some testosterone-loaded 19 year old with a bellyful of beer and a gun? Solution: nobody gets one.

    What’s needed is a simple formula for who carries – for instance: senior NCO and any officer on duty in a recruiting office is authorized to be under arms. E6 and greater with >6 years in service are authorized CC if the have CC permit from state of residency when in civilian clothes or non-dress uniform.

    OTOH, this is the Army (Marines, Navy, etc) so I don’t hold out much hope for something that sensible.

    bud (30d398)

  61. The NYT is now running a front page and center article with 8 photos about the faithful and the end of Ramadan. This right next to the photo of one of the Marines killed yesterday and bio of him, as well as thers killed yesterday. Gosh, ya think they’re trying to tell us something???

    Dana (86e864)

  62. I have always been puzzled by the phrase “rules of engagement.”

    felipe (56556d)

  63. What’s needed is a simple formula for who carries – for instance: senior NCO and any officer on duty in a recruiting office is authorized to be under arms. E6 and greater with >6 years in service are authorized CC if the have CC permit from state of residency when in civilian clothes or non-dress uniform.

    It is important to note that recruiting offices are not located inside a perimeter guarded by MP’s.

    There should be no limitations on bearing arms outside of secured perimeters.

    Michael Ejercito (d9a893)

  64. plus there should be safe places on the base where you can go just to cuddle

    happyfeet (831175)

  65. Some idiot CNN considers a terrorism expert explains why those Marines were unarmed:

    http://twitchy.com/2015/07/16/good-lord-does-this-cnn-national-security-analyst-understand-terrorism-at-all-video/

    Transcript:

    We generally do not have military with guns walking around, uh, domestic streets or shopping malls, as we’ve seen. And so that’s why they’re unarmed. They’re also unarmed, generally, because these are shopping malls, these are, you know, recruitment centers, they’re in shopping malls, they’re, you know, sort of open, they’re in places where you wouldn’t anticipate an attack.

    The stupid. It burns.

    Steve57 (4c9797)

  66. agonizing isn’t it, imagine those poor sad folks, trapped in doctor’s offices and airport lounges, receiving massive unshielded doses of idiocy,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  67. This:

    http://twitchy.com/2015/07/17/can-this-possibly-be-true-abc-reporter-says-marine-recruiters-told-not-to-wear-uniforms-at-work/

    …ABC News Pentagon Digital Journalist Luis Martinez reports that the U.S. Marine Corps has ordered its recruiters to stop wearing uniforms at work as part of an overall security strategy, post Chattanooga:

    luis martinez
    ✔ @LMartinezABC

    Marine Corps Recruiting Command has instructed Marine recruiters to not wear uniforms at work, part of force protection since Chattanooga

    People are skeptical of this report, as they should be. But they can’t dismiss it out of hand because it reflects the stupidity of our elites that we’ve grown accustomed to.

    They would issue this kind of order. The thinking being that no one would connect the dudes with the high and tight haircuts working inside military recruitment offices with the US military IF they wore civilian clothing.

    Sheer freakin’ genius.

    Steve57 (4c9797)

  68. Something about militias, well organized or not:
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/07/a-pack-not-a-herd.php

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  69. A fifth military man has died. The U.S. Navy says that the sailor who was shot earlier this week at a military support center in Chattanooga, Tennessee, has died.

    The Chicagoan’s death was announced Saturday, two days after a shooting in Chattanooga killed four Marines and injured three others, including the sailor.

    The Navy statement did not give the sailor’s name. But he was earlier identified as Navy Petty Officer 2nd Class Randall Smith, a reservist serving on active duty in Chattanooga.

    elissa (cb0161)

  70. Obama did say something once about needing a domestic defense force equal to the military…
    though I don’t think what he had in mind and what Reynolds and others have in mind is exactly the same thing.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  71. The sailor was from Ohio and was a family man with three young daughters. Just awful news.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/randall-smith-5th-victim-chattanooga-shooting-dies-article-1.2296310

    elissa (cb0161)

  72. I saw Juan Williams yesterday arguing on FOX about the recruiters being in shopping malls and, well, we don’t want “the Wild West” at shopping centers where women and children shop. Meanwhile, in the scene behind him was 30 cops, in that shopping mall, all wearing guns. So in Juan’s eyes it’s okay for trained cops to wear guns in shopping malls but for some reason not trained soldiers. That’s the type of reasoning that forces me to conclude leftists are all idiots.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  73. Has Obama called their families yet?

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  74. People are skeptical of this report, as they should be. But they can’t dismiss it out of hand because it reflects the stupidity [malignancy] of our elites that we’ve grown accustomed to.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  75. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  76. Has Obama called their families yet?

    If he did, he’d probably start the conversation talking about how wonderful it was that the ESPN Awards gave a “courage” award to Bruce “Caitlyn” Jenner, or something like that. Or in the grand tradition of 5 years ago.

    nbcconnecticut.com, October 6, 2010: After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a previously scheduled appearance. At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president. The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace and perspective.

    But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory remarks. At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior’s Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a “shout-out” to “Dr. Joe Medicine Crow — that Congressional Medal of Honor winner.” Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms.

    They say that liberalism is a form of mental illness. I increasingly believe that isn’t being merely sarcastic but is being factual.

    Mark (6f1d5f)

  77. Said it elsewhere: The number of dead Americans in such an act is secondary–to the terrs–to the number of attacks carried out. Sure, they’d like more dead infidels, but the point is more attacks, which indicate presence, numbers, inevitability.

    Richard Aubrey (f6d8de)

  78. the left uses the occasion for a whole bunch of navel-gazing about whether or not this is terrorism

    National Soros Radio in particular

    what they don’t get is that whether or not National Soros Radio thinks it’s terrorism or not makes no difference to literally anybody

    fap fap fap

    nothing compares to

    happyfeet (831175)

  79. a quiet evening alone

    happyfeet (831175)

  80. 74. I saw Juan Williams yesterday arguing on FOX about the recruiters being in shopping malls and, well, we don’t want “the Wild West” at shopping centers where women and children shop. Meanwhile, in the scene behind him was 30 cops, in that shopping mall, all wearing guns. So in Juan’s eyes it’s okay for trained cops to wear guns in shopping malls but for some reason not trained soldiers. That’s the type of reasoning that forces me to conclude leftists are all idiots.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 7/18/2015 @ 6:43 am

    Juan Williams doesn’t want “the Wild West” at shopping malls where women and children shop, but he’s OK with begging for Nairobi.

    Steve57 (4c9797)


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