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Unions: Yes, We Support the Minimum Wage — But Not for Union Workers!!!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:11 pm

Whether you react to this with a sharp, shocked laugh or a knowing but depressed shrug is a marker of how cynical you have become:

For much of the past eight months, labor activists have argued against special considerations for business owners, such as restaurateurs, who said they would have trouble complying with the mandated pay increase.

But Rusty Hicks, who heads the county Federation of Labor and helps lead the Raise the Wage coalition, said Tuesday night that companies with workers represented by unions should have leeway to negotiate a wage below that mandated by the law.

“With a collective bargaining agreement, a business owner and the employees negotiate an agreement that works for them both. The agreement allows each party to prioritize what is important to them,” Hicks said in a statement. “This provision gives the parties the option, the freedom, to negotiate that agreement. And that is a good thing.”

Eliminating the minimum wage entirely gives the parties the option, the freedom, to negotiate an agreement that works for them both, allowing each to prioritize what’s important. And that is a good thing.

Too bad unions and other soft-headed know-nothings oppose such common-sense principles — when it’s not their own ox being gored, that is.

Thanks to J.D.

23 Responses to “Unions: Yes, We Support the Minimum Wage — But Not for Union Workers!!!”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (3cc0c1)

  2. If the government hands their least membership a raise, why would the least of their membership need a union?

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  3. You are welcome 😉

    Exemptions to laws are of the debbil

    JD (3b5483)

  4. Just added the hat tip. Forgot about that.

    Patterico (3cc0c1)

  5. I was funnin’ you.

    JD (3b5483)

  6. Yet another real life example of why The Onion is going out of business.

    JD (3b5483)

  7. i has already forwarded this round the town to my alleged representatives…

    insisting, of course, that everyone receive the benefit of their wisdom.

    (fing idiots)

    redc1c4 (6d1848)

  8. Amazing that people are so eager display their arrant hypocrisy.

    Geoff Vader (27f017)

  9. Why can’t I have an individual-bargaining agreement? Where’s that 14th Amendment when I need it?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  10. And I am willing to bet that EMPLOYEES of the union won’t get that wage either. Because!

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  11. With a multitude of businesses workers get to decide what is important to themselves. If they are not satisfied with their pay or other benefits there are other businesses to go to. If government is successful in shutting down some businesses, it reduces the individuals ability “to prioritize what is important” to that individual.

    Interesting that the leftists can’t see that.

    Jim (a9b7c7)

  12. business argued for a training wage to transition, and they say no, let them absorb their own folly,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  13. Maybe the union will start paying the people they hire to picket others $15.

    The fun play at work here is to try to “encourage” small businesses to have their employees join the SEIU or another union, you pick the acronym, but I gotta wonder about the IQ of a union member who supports his/her union undercutting their pay increase.
    Of course one could always reassure the worker by telling them that yes, $15HR would result in the loss of their job to robots, but hey at $14.25 your job is totally, totally, swear on Marie Harf’s total self, totally safe.
    Meanwhile somewhere in the USA a sharp university kid is programming the perfect 3D “printing” burger machine. (I read that there already is a fresh ground meat to order machine that can do it all be it all beef, 1/3 pork/ 2/3 beef or whatever on your type of bun, cooked perfectly to your taste)
    There also is no reason why robots can’t do any type of fast food like franchise pizza well.
    Home Depot probably will do away with 50% of their remaining in store staff within less than a decade

    steveg (fed1c9)

  14. Seems like a pretty clever ploy if it works; raise the minimum wage to $15, then the unions circle around businesses telling them they’ll work for cheap… if it gets their nose in the door. I could see this working especially well against restaurants; payroll suddenly doubles and you’re looking at going out of business or begging the union to give you people at $10/hr.

    Two, three, five years later, union refuses to negotiate unless they get the $15 anyway, of which $5 an hour will of course go to the union.

    Clever, but still unbelievably scummy which is why I’d bet heavily on it happening.

    John S. (e9071e)

  15. Can I declare myself to be a union (with one member) and negotiate a pay rate under the mandated one?

    Steven Den Beste (99cfa1)

  16. Clever, but still unbelievably scummy which is why I’d bet heavily on it happening.

    And the first time it does, there’s a lawsuit against the employer, the union and the law itself. BTW, does this make the LA City Council subject to a RICO suit?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  17. Might as well give them vacation time plus the whole month of August off, they want to be like europe, don’t ya know.

    mg (31009b)

  18. i don’t want to eat food that’s been molested by filthy union trash in the kitchen who can’t be fired when they do gross unhygienic things

    i just really really don’t i’d rather think ahead and make a sammich at home

    happyfeet (831175)

  19. Greetings:

    This just in from the Department of Redundancy Department:

    A Mister Eric Hoffer has observed that “What starts off as a cause, becomes a business, and ends up as a racket.”

    That is all.

    11B40 (0f96be)

  20. No different than the unions pushing Obamacare, then demanding an exemption… and getting it.

    njrob (a048a4)

  21. Everybody with a job falls into one of two categories:
    If you are paid more than minimum wage, then you are paid what you’re worth (well, excepting union workers).
    If you are paid minimum wage, then it is illegal to pay you what you’re worth.

    MrJimm (dfcd39)

  22. Now they are saying it’s not an exception, but an “option”. Of course it’s an option that only unions get.

    Tanny O'Haley (c674c7)

  23. Whether you react to this with a sharp, shocked laugh or a knowing but depressed shrug is a marker of how cynical you have become:

    Where does a wry smile and a slow shaking of my head fall on that scale?

    James Hanley (66c964)

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