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4/24/2015

From the “Republicans Little Different From Democrats” Files

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:44 am



This sort of thing is becoming distressingly familiar:

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said Thursday he would welcome another spending agreement that would lift the sequestration budget ceilings set to return in October.

“If there’s a way to reduce mandatory spending in a way that would provide relief to the sequester, like we did with the Ryan-Murray budget plan, have at it,” Boehner told reporters at his weekly press conference, referring to the agreement Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) struck in late 2013 that relieved sequestration ceilings for fiscal 2014 and 2015.

In general — and there are exceptions like Ted Cruz and Justin Amash — Republicans have embraced the progressive agenda, just somewhat less so. In the main, they don’t fundamentally disagree with using government to fix problems. That is progressivism. If you believe that the solution is instead to get government out of the way, you need to speak up in every way possible to let your voice be heard.

33 Responses to “From the “Republicans Little Different From Democrats” Files”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. When you take Boehner, McConnell, Graham and the rest of the ball less wimps that somehow are running the Republican party (into oblivion) and never reverse or eliminate the leftist crap, who vote for idiots to be confirmed like this dumbass attorney general, who never pull the plug on any spending our party needs an enema.

    Where are the Repubs regarding Hillary! arraigning the sale of 25% of our uranium to Moscow? Where is the leadership of this country? What the hell is going on around here?

    Hoagie (58a3ec)

  3. ==If you believe that the solution is instead to get government out of the way, you need to speak up in every way possible to let your voice be heard.==

    Patterico, like people bragging about sitting out elections entirely, or a plan to vote in a manner that will elect even more Dems in order to “send the Republicans a lesson”?

    elissa (ead9c9)

  4. Ryan AGAIN shows himself to be a total fraud.

    Bugg (bd9445)

  5. When the Republicans do the same as the Dems, elissa, why does that matter?

    JD (2b209d)

  6. Ask Patterico, JD. He’s the one who said he wants “voices to be heard in every way possible”, as I quoted from his intro to this thread. I am trying to understand what he means by “voices” in perhaps a bit more detail.

    elissa (ead9c9)

  7. It is possible that one of us misread that. I see it as “If you replace the robotic cuts with other cuts, I’m for it.” You seem to read it as “Let’s get rid of all these cuts.”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  8. Sendero Luminoso!
    http://youtu.be/FNrbrhQknLQ

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  9. Team r has bunker busted the party.
    Sucker-any one voting the party line no matter what cretin wins the nomination.
    Team r, since the last election has proven that they think conservatives suck.
    If Walker or Cruz fail to win the nomination, other than chamber of commerce backers, who the hell will vote?

    mg (31009b)

  10. We are so far down the rabbit-hole … aaargh.

    I no longer believe there is a peaceful way to fix the country. I *also* believe that any “non-peaceful” means of addressing our woes has a less-than-10% chance of bringing about a “Re-Enlightenment”. By my not-particularly-scientific reckoning, it’s much more likely that we’re going to have a dictatorship either way (if we just keep going down this path we’re on, it’ll be an “un-declared” dictatorship with a “freely-elected” dictator, but still …)

    The Glorious Experiment worked for a while. I guess that should count for something when they write the Official History.

    A_Nonny_Mouse (a3831a)

  11. Meghan’s coward daddy wants to slop his piggy piggy pentagon pals

    that’s all this is about really

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  12. We should citizen arrest ourselves for allowing all this political malfeasance.

    mg (31009b)

  13. We don’t shoot until we can see the whites of our eyes!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  14. “there are exceptions like Cruz and Amash..”

    And Rand Paul…. Accidentally leave him off your list, or intentionally pretending he’s worse on fiscal issues than these two? Just google “Rand sequester”; he repeatedly demolished Obama and both parties over the whole fiasco.

    I like that you mentioned Amash though. He’s done such an excellent job in Congress. He’s also closer to Rand than to Cruz on the issues, JFYI. I totally respect your preference for Cruz (I like all three “wacko birds,” personally), but please stop shortchanging Rand. He deserves more credit than you seem to be giving him.

    Rob Westbrook (4870a6)

  15. America commits suicide, because the republicans win the election and Harry baby is still in charge.

    mg (31009b)

  16. Amash is part of the Paul caucus, along with Massey, I think the idea was to have a member from each body,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  17. I have always thought the argument about not voting was more of an argument of degree than absolutes.
    You can argue “even Y was better than Obama, at least Y’s SCOTUS appointments wouldn’t be so bad” until “even I” am fed up now that “now there is no difference”.

    As far as actions to get attention, get a list of R senators who will be up for reelection in 2016 and tell them that unless they work to get rid of McConnell, and all of the house members work to get rid of Boehner, they will all have a primary challenger and if necessary “Mickey Mouse” will be the write in candidate in the general. We elect an R majority and it makes little difference. At some point agreeing to go along with the farce makes one party to it.

    But I think it is worse than that. Apart from a significant spiritual renewal, the only questions are how soon and in what manner the fall will be.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  18. 17. …Apart from a significant spiritual renewal, the only questions are how soon and in what manner the fall will be.

    MD in Philly (f9371b) — 4/24/2015 @ 4:31 pm

    ISIS is a sign. It isn’t that they’re strong. It’s that we’ve grown weak. They’re an opportunistic infection. Ask a western leader to defend a western value. Deer in the headlights. Charlie Hebdo? Freedom of speech? No clue.

    Steve57 (cd6f9a)

  19. specially when we realize that IS, is the Zarquawi network, with a shinier gloss, the nougat is Baathist, from Hafr Bakr to the new guy, Al Afri, the nuclear physicist, from Tall Afar,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  20. As President Reagan said, Orrin is “Mr. Balanced Budget.” Long before the issue of debt was on the forefront of Americans’ minds, Orrin Hatch knew our government would face insolvency if we did not get our budget under control. He sponsored or co-sponsored a Balanced Budget Amendment 17 times, and he voted in favor of a Balanced Budget Amendment at least 9 other times. We know he will use his seniority and influence to dissuade politicians from continuing to raise the debt ceiling without any plan to balance the budget and end these dangerously unsustainable deficits.*

    God Bless Senerder Orrin Hatch

    And thank YOU Sarahcuda!

    Thank you so so much for all you do

    happyfeet (831175)

  21. of course, there’s Ron Johnson, and ole man Gower, I mean Cochran, who she campaigned against, but back to your nespresso,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  22. Patterico, like people bragging about sitting out elections entirely, or a plan to vote in a manner that will elect even more Dems in order to “send the Republicans a lesson”?

    No.

    Ask Patterico, JD. He’s the one who said he wants “voices to be heard in every way possible”, as I quoted from his intro to this thread. I am trying to understand what he means by “voices” in perhaps a bit more detail.

    There are different things one could do. They include, but are not limited to:

    Voting for a candidate who is not for business as usual.

    Contributing to such a candidate.

    Talking to friends and family about such a candidate.

    Volunteering for such a candidate.

    Speaking out about what principles matter to you.

    To name just a few.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  23. “there are exceptions like Cruz and Amash..”

    And Rand Paul…. Accidentally leave him off your list, or intentionally pretending he’s worse on fiscal issues than these two? Just google “Rand sequester”; he repeatedly demolished Obama and both parties over the whole fiasco.

    I like that you mentioned Amash though. He’s done such an excellent job in Congress. He’s also closer to Rand than to Cruz on the issues, JFYI. I totally respect your preference for Cruz (I like all three “wacko birds,” personally), but please stop shortchanging Rand. He deserves more credit than you seem to be giving him.

    He appears to be solid on economic issues.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  24. My rule for liberty, narcisso, was, “Do I want my grandma reading about this?”

    It saved me a lot of trouble.

    Steve57 (cd6f9a)

  25. Sorry. Hit the “S” key twice.

    Steve57 (cd6f9a)

  26. that’s alright, some people spell it that way, some without the r, it’s not that difficult a handle to remember,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  27. Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said Thursday he would welcome another spending agreement that would lift the sequestration budget ceilings set to return in October.

    “If there’s a way to reduce mandatory spending in a way that would provide relief to the sequester, like we did with the Ryan-Murray budget plan, have at it,”

    The reporters words are not an accurate representation of what Boehner said.

    Boehner said, in his tortured way, “If you don’t like the sequester’s mandatory cuts (e.g. defense), show me other cuts and we’ll talk.”

    The reporter suggested this means he would lift budget ceilings, when he’s talking about changing amounts within the ceiling.

    This is an Emily Litella.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  28. does everybody forget, Obama set up the sequester as a poison pill,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  29. Billy Graham got his start preaching to the pigs.

    All that remains is a toxic waste pond.

    DNF (208255)

  30. My congressman just sent his newsletter to us, proudly outlining how he and the Dems have solved the “doc fix” perennial problem. They just made it permanent. Don’t worry, that means we will save money in the long run! Or something.

    Do not worry any more. Spend that IRA now on fine wine and getaways with loved ones and watering your lawn; enjoy life, until that midnight knock on the door.

    Patricia (5fc097)


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