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No Evidence That University of Virginia Gang Rape Ever Happened

Filed under: General — Dana @ 1:00 pm

[guest post by Dana]

Remember that Rolling Stone story about an alleged gang rape at the University of Virginia? Looks like it was just that, a story:

Charlottesville police announced Monday that they could find no evidence that a rape happened at a University of Virginia fraternity as described in a Rolling Stone article, and said they were suspending their investigation.

However, Chief of Police Timothy J. Longo wouldn’t close the door to the possibility that something still may have happened to Jackie:

“We’re not able to conclude to any substantive degree that an incident occurred at the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house or any other fraternity house, for that matter,” Longo said at a news conference. “That doesn’t mean something terrible didn’t happen to Jackie … we’re just not able to gather sufficient facts to determine what that is.”

With that, Rolling Stone plans to release an outside review of the story within the next several weeks.

Writer of the original story, Sabrina Rubin Erdely has publicly remained silent on the controversy, with her last tweet posted November 30.

U-Va President Teresa Sullivan has not commented on news of the investigation being closed. She is, however, currently under scrutiny as the U-Va executive board decides whether or not to renew her contract which expires in June. It is being reported that the alleged gang rape story (which occurred during her tenure) and Sullivan’s response to it will be part of the review.


40 Responses to “No Evidence That University of Virginia Gang Rape Ever Happened”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. she will stay on, the narrative is more important than the facts.
    as can be seen by the refusal to close the case.

    seeRpea (181740)

  3. it’s just like global warming except with a steaming side of not-rape

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  4. Intelligence, due process and common decency have been gang raped.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  5. Our friends on the left will say that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Why, they’ll say, something must’ve happened, because Women Never Lie About Rape.

    The Dana who knows the left (f6a568)

  6. Sullivan needs to go. While not related to her directly, last week’s roughing up of a black honors student is not helping UVA’s reputation. After her fraternity and sorority punishments for nothing, and now this over-reaction by Alcoholic Beverage Control agents 3 blocks from campus, what parent in their right mind would send their kid to study there?

    elissa (c7aafe)

  7. Sullivan’s red squaw partner in subterfuge, from way back,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  8. Somebody must have been passing around some really Bad Sh*t to cause such heavy delusions.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  9. Rapey-deniers

    JD (86a5eb)

  10. I don’t think Icy caught this one, but La Femme Nikita‘s Madeline, Alberta Watson, has died. She also appeared in an homage role in CW’s Nikita reboot, but her role as the ruthless Madeline in the original series is what sticks in my mind. Cancer.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  11. Both “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” and UVA fraternity gang rape stories go down hard. Gee. It’s almost like the media rushed to judgement or something.

    elissa (c7aafe)

  12. You know, elissa, I used to sit on a Diversity Committee here on campus. I heard repeatedly that no one would ever lie about rape, ethnic slurs, etc.

    And it doesn’t matter how many times these folks get caught.

    As for the woman in this case, my guess is that she is, um, psychologically fragile. So Rolling Stone tried to use her. Awful.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  13. Another death, being reported by today’s WSJ, is that of Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore.
    The Journal refers to him as a “Statesman”, which he may well have been; but I’ve always thought of him as a 20th-Century Benevolent Despot.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  14. Mr Lee turned a third-world war-ravaged sh1thole into a first world economic powerhouse, although William Gibson’s “Disneyland with the Death Penaly” remark seems pretty apt.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  15. I am feeling exceptionally vindictive about this. I want there to be some actual legal recriminations or repercussions against the “author” of the UVA gang rape article. I actually blame her more than either Rolling Stone or the alleged “victim”. Although they are not bathed in innocence by a long shot it was Sabrina Erdely who got them in the car, stepped on the gas, and took them along on the ride into the ugly alleys she wanted to take.

    elissa (c7aafe)

  16. I don’t disagree, elissa. There were a number of young men who were harmed by this, not to metion all the young men at the university who were colored by the lie of this. It has become difficult enough for young men to be on college campuses without having to navigate through any number landmines involving issues like sexual harassment and the like, and ugly lies like this story only make it that much more difficult because no matter that the investigation is closed, there is no evidence supporting the claims, people still instantly reacted to it and bought it hook. line and sinker. Not everyone is about truth. A huge percentage are about pushing the agenda. Truth is in the eye of the beholder.

    Dana (86e864)

  17. “I’ve always thought of him as a 20th-Century Benevolent Despot.”

    Read his biography. He certainly did better for Singapore than Arthur Percival.

    UVA will be defending itself in court for years. Unless it settles.

    OU will be defending itself against SAE but there is more smoke there. UVA has no defense.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  18. If I remember correctly, Erdely made a statement about looking extensively for ‘the right story’. I’m not an attorney, but that’s got to be an extenuating circumstance. Hopefully one that will increase the award for the young men slandered by this alleged journalist.

    Beasts of England (a08064)

  19. totally Off Topic:
    does anyone know of a banking regulation requiring the police to be called if a 5,000 dollar transaction is made at the bank? I know of the $10,000 cash limit (which in reality is 7500) but have only just heard about 5,000 being a trigger.

    seeRpea (181740)

  20. It’s a “trigger” that the depositor may be “structuring”.
    Each bank sets IIRC its own “trigger” level.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  21. The police? No. Notify the feds, maybe.

    elissa (c7aafe)

  22. Jeez, I was just going to link to the story on Drudge about all this when I realized it was Alex Jones.

    Gazzer (197567)

  23. wow,
    you’d think they would have adjusted for inflation.
    and it is the gov’t, not the police.

    seeRpea (1925e7)

  24. “We’re not able to conclude to any substantive degree that an incident occurred at the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house or any other fraternity house, for that matter,” Longo said at a news conference. “That doesn’t mean something terrible didn’t happen to Jackie … we’re just not able to gather sufficient facts to determine what that is.”

    Something terrible did indeed happen to Jackie: she was used by an opportunistic and unprincipled journalist who wanted to write a sensationalized piece of agitprop to smear an institution (fraternities) for which she holds utter contempt. Jackie then got caught in a maelstrom of a past-its-prime Baby Boomer jackoff magazine desperate for a headline-grabbing story, a craven and cowardly campus administration that was willing to throw anyone and everyone under the bus to mollify the psychopaths who operate under the banner of progressivism, and a campus rape hysteria manufactured by cynical beneficiaries from the grievance lobby and a White House eager to curry their favor.

    JVW (a1146f)

  25. re #22: yeah, just saw that link at Drudge a couple of minutes ago.
    The link I provided above is not new , wonder what happened to get some people talking about it.
    Then again , if it is Alex Jones reasoning need not apply.

    seeRpea (1925e7)

  26. “Maybe” something really really REALLY REALLY BAD happened.

    WTF???? What happened to this country. What happened to intelligence and common sense??

    There is more evidence that fugging SASQUATCH shot JFK, than there is of this JACKIE being raped, hugged, or given food stamps by UVA greeks. YET…. the truth must NOT be SPOKEN.

    Gus (7cc192)

  27. Is their PROOF that LONGO and the CHARLOTTESVILLE POLICE did not rape TAWANA BRAWLEY….errrrrrr, I mean JACKIE X??????

    Making sense yet???

    Gus (7cc192)


    Gus (7cc192)

  29. And this is different from the rest of the rights-and-pride groups and Leftists how?

    ErisGuy (76f8a7)

  30. its different in that targets are much more specified and leads to more personal harm.
    at least UVa didn’t try to blackmail faculty through coercion:

    seeRpea (1925e7)

  31. Meanwhile, while our gov’t is putting stupid rules into place and running roughshod over the legal system – Yemen appears to be no more. So be thankful this morning that we are far above the problems that are occurring in our gov’t success areas.

    seeRpea (1925e7)

  32. elissa wrote:

    what parent in their right mind would send their kid to study there?

    Any parent wanting his kid to get ahead. UVa has a top-notch academic reputation, and is as close to an Ivy League school as you’ll find in the South; that’s where Marie Harf Lucas earned her master’s degree.

    What’s that, you say? That isn’t much of a recommendation at all? Well, remember: the lovely Mrs Lucas got her entré into the CIA because, among other things, she had a master’s degree from a prestigious university. That she turned out to be an idiot Obamabot doesn’t matter; you want your kid to have doors opened for him, then UVa is a great place for him to go.

    Why, UVa basketball coach Tony Bennett was even named coach of the year, despite some losses, and despite UVa being second-seeded and losing in the NCAA Tournament, and despite John Calipari’s Kentucky Wildcats going undefeated so far.

    So, what’s not to like? :)

    The Dana who used to live in the Old Dominion (f6a568)

  33. at least UVa didn’t try to blackmail faculty through coercion:

    Hey, it’s Chicago !

    Today, there is speculation that a libel suit by Phi Psi members may have problems because of “Skeletons in their closets” Sounds like threat to me.

    Any libel lawsuit that doesn’t get thrown out right away on technical grounds would be accompanied by a lengthy, granular discovery and deposition process. That process would likely expose any fraternity’s “skeletons in the closet,” Rodney Smolla, a University of Georgia law professor who has worked libel cases, told the National Law Journal. “This could backfire on you,” he said. “If you’ve got things you’re not proud of that are there, then do not bring the case because all of that will come out and it will cause you more damage than good.”

    Nice little life you have there. It would be a shame if anything happened to it.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  34. i wonder if they checked for fibers

    happyfeet (831175)

  35. There may have been some Everclear in a bowl of punch in 1969.

    elissa (5e68fe)

  36. This will be just like the Duke LaCrosse team rape. Psychotic victim. Press ready to NiFong the kids. Next faculty will flunk the kids in the frat just because they were accused, therefore guilty in liberal, tenured professors’ minds.

    Remember, nothing happened to the 88 Duke professors. Each and every one of them should have been stripped of tenure and fired.

    PCD (39058b)

  37. there could still be rape fibers in that punch bowl someone should check it quick

    i heard grandma yellen was just itching to take it away

    happyfeet (831175)

  38. Dana, as anVirginian, I have to confess a lot of the polish in UVAs star has rubbed off over the last twenty years. I would not choose it over UR, if I could afford UR, or the College of William & Mary.

    SarahW (6f3980)

  39. UVA has developed a reputation for overlooking cheating. The vaunted honor code actually contributes to this: the penalty for violation is one strike, so heavy a penalty that a lot of shenanigans are deliberately overlooked or not looked for.

    SarahW (6f3980)

  40. There’s atendency to believe that if somebody makes a charge something terrible must have happened – but if so, it could be just something going wrong with their life.

    Sammy Finkelman (033fec)

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