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3/5/2015

Hillary Clinton Responds To Email Kerfuffle

Filed under: General — Dana @ 6:30 am



[guest post by Dana]

Following a subpoena for her emails by a House committee investigating the Benghazi attacks, Hillary Clinton has responded to the the kerfuffle about exclusively using a personal email account rather than an official email account during her tenure at the State Dept. This also after it was discovered that the external email server registered under a pseudonym and traced back to her New York home, appeared to allow users to completely delete emails and leave no trace behind.

From Clinton’s twitter account:

I want the public to see my email. I asked State to release them. They said they will review them for release as soon as possible.

For a look at whether Clinton violated the law, both the Federal Records act and federal penal statute “making it a felony for the custodian of government records to hide or tamper with said records”, you can read Andrew McCarthy’s take here. However, he cautions against jumping the gun:

I think there are other potential criminal violations as well. We don’t know enough about the former secretary of state’s emails yet to make a judgment about whether they involved classified matters – which could trigger liability under the espionage act (which governs the maintenance and severely limits the permissible disclosure of national security secrets). It is hard to imagine that no classified matters are implicated, but let’s set that aside for the moment.

–Dana

62 Responses to “Hillary Clinton Responds To Email Kerfuffle”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. Her only defense would be that she never used her email for government business.

    What happened to the crazy lady who threw the shoe at her, does anybody know? I wonder what she would do if she ran into Hillary in the prison yard?

    nk (dbc370)

  3. Sure Hillary wants those old meanies at State to look at her completely “scrubbed” e-mails [which she has kindly and selectively provided to them]. Of course the fix is in. Those meanies at State will “decide” that about 95% of the freshly scrubbed e-mails can NOT be released.

    At which point Shrillary will shrug her shoulders and say “I tried to let the American people see my e-mails”. But that depends upon the meaning of “tried”, so to speak.

    Hillary is a hypocritical lying soulless sack of platitudinous posturing pusillanity. And that’s on her “good” days.

    Skeptical Voter (12e67d)

  4. The very nature of the office of Secretary of State means there must be classified emails, not could be, must be. Therefore, if she used her own emails exclusively she absolutely positively broke the law and violated national security. Plus, if she did it knowingly, and I can’t see how she couldn’t know, then she is also guilty of espionage and sedition.

    Hoagie (58a3ec)

  5. Hillary makes enemies wherever she goes, and that includes the State Department. There is more to come from this.

    Bar Sinister (b48c12)

  6. the story gets even better

    look at where the domains were hosted & routed through…

    redc1c4 (b340a6)

  7. How’s the media going to spin this? Well, I already heard one news report say she may have violated some email rules.

    Once again nothing will come of this, unfortunately.

    AZ Bob (34bb80)

  8. As Skeptical Voter notes, Hillary! is so dedicated to transparency that she’s desperate to have the DoS release the emails she selectively released to her old agency. How kind.

    Hillary! is nothing more than a private citizen now. If she can’t on her own decided to release all the emails on her personal unsecure email server located in her residence which is not an authorized storage facility then she has no business possessing any of it.

    I love how she keeps highlighting the fact she considers herself a privileged elitist who’s above the law. She thinks she’s making things better and she keeps making them worse.

    Who is the real Hillary!? The Hillary! who keeps hiring consultants to rebrand Hillary! Hopefully the next time she rebrands herself it will be as Federal Prisoner no. 19832764.

    Steve57 (813c29)

  9. 5. Hillary makes enemies wherever she goes, and that includes the State Department. There is more to come from this.

    Bar Sinister (b48c12) — 3/5/2015 @ 6:53 am

    I get the impression even Bill and his girlfriend (Secret Service codename “Energizer Bunny”) would be relieved if she got packed off to prison.

    Does she get to keep her SS security detail in the federal clink?

    Steve57 (813c29)

  10. Important to keep time frame in mind. What she did was not defacto illegal,
    though it was defacto contrary to White House policy and most probably illegal and definitely DUMB.
    But the law against gov’t employees use of private emails was passed just last year.

    Interesting that the print MSM is not giving her lee way.
    some links:
    Why it was not a good idea to begin with

    A litte more on the Hoteham name
    a basic IT view of the purpose

    btw: part of my job is as an email admin. it would have been quite easy to setup the email server so that copies of all emails went to a gov’t facility automatically.

    seeRpea (3383a9)

  11. re #6: “Confluence Networks” , don’t just believe me , look them up. They are well known as a hosting agency for malware and phishing agencies.

    seeRpea (3383a9)

  12. this is sleazy but no sleazier than how food stamp turned off security checks for credit card donations

    America is just a sleazy country anymore I can’t help you

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  13. very very deeply corrupt place

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  14. Hillary complains about about Secret Email Accounts 6/2007

    She knew what she was doing. That it was unethical. Illegal.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  15. Weazel out of that one – Ms. Cankles!

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  16. That IT link was a good one SeeRpea. I think that might finally put “paid” to Hillary.

    Then what happens ?

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  17. The Arabs still have Jeb. They copper-bottomed their bet.

    nk (dbc370)

  18. Paging Sandy Burglar. Err, Sandy Berger. Do you have any of Hillary’s emails in your pants, Sandy?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  19. At this point, what difference does it make.

    NJRob (d36337)

  20. Jeb is why we need Hillary to remain viable

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  21. The White House is claiming it knew absolutely nothing about this. Because apparently no one ever noticed that Hillary’s email address didn’t end in state.gov. Or they’re lying. Would the White House do that?

    Edoc118 (8b952d)

  22. MSNBC’s favorite. The only republican they mention by name.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  23. Sorry folks. Clinton Inc wins again. Thorough investigation may find a few crumbs of what they set out to keep out of view but it seems unlikely She cut her teeth as junior lawyer on the Senate Watergate investigation and learned you can only get burned by evidence you keep.

    crazy (cde091)

  24. The White House isn’t running for reelection. Frankly it’s surprising to me that Barry doesn’t take an extended golf break an stfu.
    Leave the networks to mop up Hillary’s problem.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  25. Sorry folks. Clinton Inc wins again. Thorough investigation may find a few crumbs … yadda yadda yadda.

    I remember the last time a dem candidate bunkered down and waited for his perfidy to blow over.

    Check the history books for what President Kerry did with his two terms.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  26. “Important to keep time frame in mind. What she did was not defacto illegal,”

    seeRpea – Of course not! Hillary would never do something illegal. Perish the thought. She and her people will investigate Hillary and share whatever emails of those that remain can be shared with Congress and Hillary will be cleared by her own investigation.

    Remember this was the way the Obama Regime started, with a self-investigation of the auctioning of the Illinois Senate seat Barcky was vacating. Just as everybody expected, no improprieties were found.

    Raaaaacist H8rs 🙂

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  27. Will the Clintons turn over the Chappaqua server for forensic analysis?

    I’m going to hazard a wild guess that it experiences a lightning strike or electrical malfunction that causes it to immolate in the near future.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  28. re #19: Berger was the source of the private Clinton accounts.

    seeRpea (3383a9)

  29. Ambassador canned by Hillary’s State Dept for doing the same thing.

    Scott Gration ‘divisive and ineffective’ as ambassador to Kenya, report finds – Posted at 01:45 PM ET, 08/10/2012

    It also portrayed him as a bit of a freelancer who did not read classified front channel messages, used commercial e-mail systems instead of secure government ones for official business (including work that included the use of sensitive materials) and ignored U.S. government policy. “The Ambassador’s greatest weakness is his reluctance to accept clear-cut U.S. Government decisions,” the report found, citing “his disagreement with Washington policy decisions and directives concerning the safe-havening in Nairobi of families of Department employees who volunteered to serve in extreme hardship posts.”

    Dance out of that one, Cankles.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  30. Hillary will not bunker down. Her counter-attack will be interesting. Will it include a vast right-wing conspiracy and a few convenient suicides, I wonder.

    nk (dbc370)

  31. State Dept spox says “it will be ‘several months’ before Hillary’s emails are released.

    http://twitchy.com/2015/03/05/nothing-suspicious-about-this-hillary-clintons-emails-might-not-be-released-for-how-long/

    Sounds like hillary is in the bunker already. Digging.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  32. She can duck out for six months or so, then make her grand reentry in the welcoming arms of the Daily Show with Jon Stewart, where they’ll prtend like the bad thing never happened with ten minutes of snarky jokes at teh GOP’s expence.

    Oh wait….

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  33. ==I’m going to hazard a wild guess that it experiences a lightning strike or electrical malfunction that causes it to immolate in the near future.==

    I was thinking more along the lines of the server being victim to a serious sewer backup in the basement of the Chappaqua house, but almost anything is possible.

    elissa (ef0943)

  34. Trust me, there are at least 2 backup copies of all the emails constantly being done.

    now as to whether the backups are not being purged …

    seeRpea (181740)

  35. “I was thinking more along the lines of the server being victim to a serious sewer backup in the basement of the Chappaqua house, but almost anything is possible.”

    elissa – There is some low swampy land near their house, so some kind of flooding is certainly a possibility. I would also not have chosen Andrew McCarthy’s word “manse” to describe it in any of the tradition senses of a large stately residence or a cleric’s house.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  36. When does Gowdy show up in front of a microphone and show his mean bark, again? He is nothing but a carnival barker for a real bad side show.

    mg (31009b)

  37. Hillary Clinton refusing to answer – according to MSNBC’s Larry O’Donnell

    Hillary Clinton Won’t Take Questions at Journalism Award Ceremony – That’s special. About two weeks from now Hilda is already planning to dodge questions in what I suppose is an auditorium full of … Let’s see, Toner Prize for Excellence & Ethics in Political Journalism.

    I’m guessing political reporters.

    lol

    She ‘ s in the bunker Archie b un k er DEEP

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  38. Holy Sandy’s Socks, Batman!

    mojo (a3d457)

  39. John Kerry deflects by assuming the snotty dismissiveness he is so naturally prone toward:

    “With respect to Secretary Clinton’s emails, the State Department has had access to a wide array of Secretary Clinton’s records, including emails between her and department officials with the state.gov accounts,” Kerry said while in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on Thursday.

    “I think we have all the ones that are state.gov, which are appropriately the ones in the purview of the department, but let me check on that when I actually have time to pay attention to such an important issue when I get home,” Kerry added with a deadpan expression.

    :

    Dana (86e864)

  40. it is striking how many speak of rope, in the presence of a hanging, didn’t Koskinen pull a Clinton not that long ago, the names of ‘Richard Windsor’ and John Beale, come to mind in the ‘annals of transparency;

    narciso (ee1f88)

  41. Did Hillary do all of her business through the private email account, or didn’t she?
    The New York Times says, “The revelation that Hillary Rodham Clinton conducted government business entirely on a private email account as secretary of state has blindsided the Democratic establishment.

    Now Kerry is saying “… including emails between her and department officials with the state.gov accounts …”

    Did Clinton mask her private email to mimic the state.gov account, so her underlings and foreign contacts would be none the wiser?
    Would that be an offense in and of itself?
    For you or me to mimic a state.gov, or any kind of dot gov account, it would be a crime I suspect.
    Being Hillary was actually the State gov that makes it kind of murky.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  42. yes, but the servers had to be at Foggy Bottom.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  43. A fat tub of hypocritical goo in a pantsuit.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  44. re #42: yes, to a certain you can mimic another email address.
    Depending on the email client being used, a replyer might miss that the reply is not going to the address it seemed to have come from.

    seeRpea (3383a9)

  45. They (the Clintons) believe they can skate.

    They’ve done it before. (Although: that was after Bill got re-elected. That probably worries them, a bit. But not enough to make them clean up their act. As if they could. As if they even knew how.)

    Beldar (fa637a)

  46. Does anyone else notice how inconsequential team r is? They are so out of it – delusional – totally unrecognizable from the R.R. years. I would venture to say they won’t put up a fight when obama takes a third term.

    mg (31009b)

  47. The way I understand politics in the other English speaking countries, there would have been a spill, (ie a majority of the party voted against the direction the speaker of the House was taking) and a leadership challenge ousting Mr. Boner after the “clean bill” DHS funding vote.

    I say why not here? Boner has shown himelf to be a pulsiminious jelly fish toadie to the administration.
    He does not speak for the majority of Republicans, and by extention, the majority of the country. We have the roll call sheet to prove it.

    He doesn’t deserve his position.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  48. re #51: why would Dems vote against Boehner?

    seeRpea (b6bbec)

  49. re #52: because if I wanted their opinion I’d beat it out of them?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  50. I don’t think you understand how voting for Speaker of the House works.

    seeRpea (b6bbec)

  51. Was that not the right answer?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  52. Wait a minute. Are you meaning to suggest that democrats get to vote for who leads teh Repuublican party in the House of Representatives?
    If that’s true how in the hell did we end up with Pelosi?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  53. Any representative can vote for any Speaker, papertiger, the leader of the other party, even someone who has not indicated he wants the job. It’s forgivable to vote for Colin Powell as a protest vote; it’s unforgivable to vote for the leader of the other party who might get the job. It’s been rarely done and the couple or three guys who did it found themselves in Congressional Siberia. No committee appointments, no role in the party caucus.

    nk (dbc370)

  54. Stop the planet. I want off.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  55. Check please! IT’s a MAD HOUSE!

    Get Nancy Pelosi’s dirty stinking paws off me.

    Oh I feel dirty.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  56. Black Hawk Down. Black Hawk Down.

    What I need is one of those nuclear decon showers.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  57. Heh. Shrillery shill Paul Begala weighs in on the email kerfuffle.

    “Voters do not give a shit. They do not even give a fart,” said longtime Clinton ally and Democratic strategist Paul Begala, echoing the sentiments of most Clinton allies who believe the all-but-certain nominee is enough of a defined quantity in voters’ eyes that Republican attacks on her email policies cannot sway them — especially not over a year-and-a-half before she faces a competitive vote.
    “Find me one persuadable voter who agrees with HRC on the issues but will vote against her because she has a non-archival-compliant email system and I’ll kiss your ass in Macy’s window and say it smells like roses,” he said.

    Very classy, Paul.

    elissa (d2bc26)


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