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2/18/2015

Obama State Dep’t Spokesmoron: We Found a Religion Relevant to a Terror Group: Christianity!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:34 pm



These people in the Obama administration are really something.

  • They refuse to call Christians who are beheaded “Christians”
  • They refuse to call Islamic extremist terrorists “Islamic”

But find them a Christian terror group, and they’ll call it Christian:

What do you expect from a group who thinks that the underlying cause for terrorism is not an extremist interpretation of Islam, but rather a lack of jobs?

62 Responses to “Obama State Dep’t Spokesmoron: We Found a Religion Relevant to a Terror Group: Christianity!”

  1. This fellow lays out a solid case for why we are in for some trying times ahead, given the malevolent narcissist who currently occupies the Oval Office.

    http://www.davidwarrenonline.com/2015/02/17/martyrdom-revolved/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/18/2015 @ 7:52 pm

  2. I can’t say you didn’t warn me, Patterico.

    nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:00 pm

  3. I dunno but calling a syncretisic personality cult Xian is a bit of a reach for even today’s pseudosophisticates.

    DNF (31895a) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:14 pm

  4. well yes, if you’re going to be picky,

    narciso (ee1f88) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:19 pm

  5. Not for this crowd, DNF. At least, they’re not embarrassed to make that reach. They’ve convinced themselves they’re the smartest people on the planet. Excuse me; to use a Harfism the most nuanced people on the planet. They think they can lie to the rubes about Christianity with the same ease they lie about Islam.

    There’s got to be a long German word that sums up their unique combination of jaw-dropping stupidity, arrogance, incompetence, and malevolence,

    Steve57 (e16ed8) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:20 pm

  6. given the malevolent narcissist who currently occupies the Oval Office.

    Undoubtedly heightened, or certainly not discouraged, by current public opinion polls that show greater numbers of Americans approving of his performance today than even a few months ago, against the backdrop of his doing better than his predecessor did at the 6-year mark of Bush’s presidency back in 2007.

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

    The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President.”

    ^ Places like Michigan’s largest city, or Mexico, or France, or Venezuela, or Argentina, etc, should always be kept in mind as a daily reminder to anyone who believes that things in the US can’t get any worse or can’t possibly remain quite bad. IOW, to think that way is to be ignorant of the intrinsic failings of human nature, from sea to shining sea.

    Mark (c160ec) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:24 pm

  7. dummkopfboswilligunfahigarroganzlichkeit

    Steve57 (e16ed8) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:26 pm

  8. #1: as others have asked, that was a Christian menace?

    #2: based on what has been said the past 3 days even after the random comment and lack of Islamic foundation of the various islamic terror groups in the Middle East – it looks like Harvard and the other Ivy League schools never taught the important lesson of “stop digging” .

    seeRpea (9e531f) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:27 pm

  9. As in, “Marie Harf, the public face of our dummkopfboswilligunfahigarroganzlichkeit Freshman Dorm administration.

    Think it will catch on?

    Steve57 (e16ed8) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:27 pm

  10. re #6: the PotUS approval rating is 50% or higher.

    seeRpea (9e531f) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:28 pm

  11. they’re like the coyote with the Acme jackhammer, going right over the cliff,

    narciso (ee1f88) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:29 pm

  12. seeRpea, they never bothered because they never taught to start digging.

    As the inimitable Iowahawk put it, they all want to be the art major with the Rosie the Riviter retro t-shirt.

    None of them would ever be the riviter.

    Steve57 (e16ed8) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:30 pm

  13. sheer mockery is best:

    https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/

    narciso (ee1f88) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:42 pm

  14. Hey muzzies, here is a shovel, your job is to start digging, I’ll let you know when the hole is deep enough and wide enough.
    chow.

    mg (31009b) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:52 pm

  15. Revenge for a friends murder, never enough payback.
    Die muzzie scum die.

    mg (31009b) — 2/18/2015 @ 8:54 pm

  16. Cargo cults are Christian too.

    I’m going to go out on a limb and figure that there will be some Christian warlords emerge in Nigeria and elsewhere in Africa. Never mind that their ascendency will be due at least in part to the Islamic groups running wild and terrorizing the outback Christians who have no other option than to hook up with whatever warlord for basic safety

    steveg (794291) — 2/18/2015 @ 9:06 pm

  17. The wreckovery is on!

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-18/shipbuilding-orders-slump-baltic-dry-hits-fresh-record-low

    This despite China-bound super tankers and months of container ships idled while loaded off West coast ports.

    DNF (31895a) — 2/18/2015 @ 9:13 pm

  18. “… The line between the Washington prayer breakfast and the Ukrainian grief counselors is direct and causal. Once you’ve discounted your own moral authority, once you’ve undermined your own country’s moral self-confidence, you cannot lead.”

    – Charles Krauthammer on Barack Obama

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/18/2015 @ 9:16 pm

  19. You suppose that Harf has been banished to MSDNC where they know she is most likely to get softballs lobbed her way (and that’s not a Biden reference)?

    JVW (1ab181) — 2/18/2015 @ 9:44 pm

  20. re #17 , from Seattle Times:

    Container traffic through the Port of Seattle was up 1.1 percent in January compared with the same month last year, while the Port of Tacoma saw a 25 percent decline during the period.

    It is the first time in almost a year and a half that Seattle moved more cargo through its port than its former rival Tacoma.

    The two reported their cargo statistics together for the second month since announcing the Seaport Alliance — the joint management of their marine-cargo operations.

    In January, ships carried 226,906 TEUs (20-foot equivalent units) through the Puget Sound Gateway, down 13 percent from the same month last year.

    While Seattle moved 119,684 TEUs through its port in January, ships carried 107,222 TEUs through Tacoma — the lowest since February 2012, according to port records.

    Issues related to ongoing contract negotiations between the Pacific Maritime Association (PMA) and International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) began affecting cargo movement at U.S. West Coast ports on Halloween. Since then, container traffic through Puget Sound has continued to decline — specifically in Tacoma.

    {sigh}

    seeRpea (9e531f) — 2/18/2015 @ 9:58 pm

  21. Yes, what Syria needs is after-school basketball programs.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/18/2015 @ 10:21 pm

  22. Joseph Cooney is an Irish hurler who currently plays as a centre-forward for the Galway senior team. Cooney made his first appearance for the team during the 2012 championship but has failed to break onto the starting fifteen. An All-Ireland medalist at minor level, he ha…..

    What the hell, Mary?

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/18/2015 @ 10:24 pm

  23. Hey nk! Mary Harf – inbred trailer trash. Your thoughts?

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/18/2015 @ 10:29 pm

  24. She should get herself a husband and a cookbook and leave matters of state to men who are capable of dealing with them.

    nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2015 @ 10:45 pm

  25. You know, before 50 Shades of Grey there was Rudolph Valentino. I suspect this wanton pickle has fantasies of a Sheikh who’ll carry her off to his desert harem on an Arabian steed and ravish her.

    nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2015 @ 10:49 pm

  26. 21. Yes, what Syria needs is after-school madrassa basketball programs.
    Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/18/2015 @ 10:21 pm

    FTFY

    Steve57 (e16ed8) — 2/18/2015 @ 11:03 pm

  27. Who is this straw man named Kory?

    AZ Bob (34bb80) — 2/18/2015 @ 11:04 pm

  28. Here’s an honest to goodness Christian threating terrorism if his brethern don’t get a job.

    Luis Gutierrez: There will be unprecedented “militancy” among immigrants now that Obama’s amnesty has been blocked

    So there’s one for Mary Harf. I think she got lucky. It wouldn’t count in billards.

    FYI Lou’s wiki page doesn’t address the congressman’s religious beliefs. I’m making the radical leap to Catholic because of his Latin heritage.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/18/2015 @ 11:25 pm

  29. Joseph Kony is the Freshman Dorm administration’s idea of a Christian.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kony

    Kony proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, and has been considered by some as a cult of personality, and claims he is visited by a multinational host of 13 spirits, including a Chinese phantom.[2] Ideologically, the group is a syncretic mix of mysticism, Acholi nationalism, and Christian fundamentalism, and claims to be establishing a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and local Acholi tradition.

    I have no idea how any human being with an IQ above lettuce could have edited that entry to put “Christian fundamentalism” in there as all the rest of that crap means he can’t be a Christian of any kind let alone a fundamentalist.

    So I figure it was Ben Rhodes at the WH.

    Steve57 (e16ed8) — 2/18/2015 @ 11:30 pm

  30. These extremists have legitimate grievances. Just give then good governance, easy access to abortion, gay marriage, like in Iran, and everything will be hunky dory.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/18/2015 @ 11:31 pm

  31. The good news is Obola’s amnesty was blocked! WOO HOO!

    It slipped my mind in the mad rush to “Hey, I found one!”

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/18/2015 @ 11:31 pm

  32. Steve57 (e16ed8) — 2/18/2015 @ 11:30 pm

    Every bit as xtian as Jim Jones.

    We should send them Kool Aid.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/18/2015 @ 11:51 pm

  33. 32. “Our father in Hell.”

    DNF (878377) — 2/18/2015 @ 11:59 pm

  34. “We should send them Kool Aid.” Hand delivered by a Bay Area congressman, to complete the sorry presentation.

    Or maybe Maxine Waters.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/19/2015 @ 1:44 am

  35. Coulter finally gets it.
    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-02-18.html

    mg (31009b) — 2/19/2015 @ 2:56 am

  36. “christian terrorism” is just another variant of the rape fantasies failmerica’s pitiful ruling class compulsively indulges in

    Kirsten Gillibrand and president food stamp especially

    they can’t stop touching themselves and no matter what side you’re on

    this is a problem

    happyfeet (831175) — 2/19/2015 @ 3:13 am

  37. This is a comment posted at Hotair

    NPR has a story from 2005 on the “The Lord’s Resistence Army”. It says:
    Alice Lakwena is the spiritual founder of Uganda’s Lord’s Resistance Army … whose … army has been charged with war crimes….
    If you look on Wikipedia if you search for “Alice Lakwena”, you are directed to the page about Alice Auma, instead. However, they explain it in the first paragraph:
    Alice Auma (1956 – 17 January 2007) was an Acholi spirit-medium who, as the head of the Holy Spirit Movement, led a millennial rebellion against the Ugandan government forces of President Yoweri Museveni from August 1986 until November 1987. The primary spirit she purportedly channeled was that of a dead army officer called “Lakwena”, meaning messenger, which the Acholi believe to be a manifestation of the Christian Holy Spirit.[1] The combined persona of Alice Auma channeling the spirit Lakwena is often referred to as Alice Lakwena[emphasis theirs].
    So “Lakwena” thought that a dead military officer, whom she channeled was a “manifestation of the Holy Spirit”?

    The Biography section has:
    Alice Auma was born in 1956. Remaining childless after two marriages, she moved away from her hometown. She eventually converted to Christianity but, on 25 May 1985, she reportedly went ‘insane’, unable to either hear or speak, later claiming to have been possessed by a spirit, Lakwena. Her father took her to eleven different witches but none alleviated her condition. Alice claimed a spirit called Lakwena then guided her to Paraa National Park, where she disappeared for 40 days and returned a spirit-medium
    And here’s another quote:
    Alice Auma claimed that the possessing spirit Lakwena required that Alice be possessed by numerous other spirits to achieve its goals.
    Cause, those Christians are all about letting yourself be possessed by spirits, aren’t they?

    You know just because Pidgin English refers to a helicopter “Mixmaster belong Jesus Christ” (thanks to the prankish mindset of the GIs who taught them English) it doesn’t mean that they are professing a belief in Jesus Christ. Cargo-cult religion is the same as cargo-cult English. I you don’t understand the concepts, it has no reflection on people who do.

    Kony is her nephew:
    After Lakwena fled to Kenya, her nephew, Joseph Kony, took over the movement, which he renamed the Lord’s Resistance Army, or LRA. Lakwena says she has no contact with Kony and doesn’t support the LRA. But why is the spiritual founder of a movement whose leaders have been indicted for war crimes, a voodoo priestess who led hundreds of children to their death, living under the protection of the United Nations, which runs the refugee camps, and the Kenyan government, which oversees them?
    At least, they identified her right, back before it mattered to propaganda mills.

    Axeman on February 18, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    I went and looked through all of the links mentioned, Alice Auma, Lords Resistence Army, the NPR story

    There isn’t one damn thing linking any of it to Christianity at all. Jim Jones is John the Baptist compared to this collection of voodoo, freaks, and witchdoctors.

    Steve is probably right that the wikipedia entry was doctored by a WH spokeshole.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/19/2015 @ 4:22 am

  38. “Like, if ISIS had jobs, they’d like totally stop the killing and stuff. Because nuance.”

    – Marie Harf

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/19/2015 @ 4:36 am

  39. I suspect this wanton pickle has fantasies of a Sheikh who’ll carry her off to his desert harem on an Arabian steed and ravish her.

    nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2015 @ 10:49 pm

    Good point. She’s like a SNL skit waiting to happen. The living embodiment of Tina Fey’s characature, when she’s making fun of Sarah Palin. How did this bimbo get a job?

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/19/2015 @ 4:48 am

  40. “Angel Obama On My Shoulder” – Marie Harf

    Got a bubble on my brain stem
    Got a pickle in my pocket
    And I’m way too nuanced for them
    So I put it in my locket

    Wished I had a single clue
    So smart folks they wouldn’t mock me
    Gonna find someone to love me
    Gonna find someone to love

    Well I went to see a fortune teller
    And saved the fortunes that the fortune tellers tell
    I’ve got a lucky pickle and a job as talking head
    Got Obama on my shoulder, hope the stupid it don’t spread

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/19/2015 @ 5:01 am

  41. How did this bimbo get a job?

    Marie Harf has a masters from the University of Virginia, the premiere rape fantasy university in America

    if not the whole whirl

    happyfeet (a037ad) — 2/19/2015 @ 5:28 am

  42. Yup, I think I’m on the right track:

    “Oh Ahmed”, she moaned, “bring out that camel whip again”.
    “No time, now, have to go behead infidels. Don’t forget milk goats.”
    “Oh, Ahmed, have you seen the way that billy looks at me?”
    “Stay away from him until I come back. I want to watch.”

    nk (dbc370) — 2/19/2015 @ 5:38 am

  43. “The one is not always as good as the other. There are real perpetrators and real victims in this world and real good and evil. We were endowed by our Creator with the brains to distinguish evil from good.”

    – would be said by Obama, if he were not a malevolent man

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/19/2015 @ 6:37 am

  44. The main complaint I would have of her is that she choose to work for the person she does, doing the job she is told to do.

    Given that, her comments are perfectly rational and expected.

    Ben Carson said he would not accept an appointment to any position from the president.

    And if brains weren’t enough, there is a true Holy Spirit that speaks truth to those willing to hear and do God’s will.

    MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/19/2015 @ 6:55 am

  45. take the Ben Carson Challenge and sign the pledge today!

    happyfeet (a037ad) — 2/19/2015 @ 7:05 am

  46. Whomever did their talking points is a complete moron. Ripping on Christians in the context of discussing terrorism is a complete non-starter. Tone deaf.

    carlitos (c24ed5) — 2/19/2015 @ 7:40 am

  47. This era is reminiscent of watching a big car crash in slow motion, with Obama (et al) at the wheel, many Americans in the passenger seat (hello, latest Gallup Poll!) — eyes dreamily closed and listening happily to their iTunes — while other people with some sanity are on the side of the road witnessing things with gap-mouthed disdain and morbid fascination. Regrettably, when the car crashes, it will send metal chunks flying in their (or our) direction.

    BTW, I bet if Ben Carson had been America’s first black president, his popularity would be lower today than that of President “Goddamn America,” meaning liberalism or leftism is what is ultimately pinging the consciousness of far too much of the public.

    Been nice knowing you, America.

    Mark (c160ec) — 2/19/2015 @ 7:46 am

  48. Anyone who would accept a job from this maladministration has already chosen corruption over honor and leftist ideology over The American Spirit. They all need to be terminated with extreme prejudice.

    Hoagie (58a3ec) — 2/19/2015 @ 7:50 am

  49. Mark is absolutely correct. It has been nice knowing you America. We’ve become a nation which values gay marriage, unfettered abortion and “medicinal” marijuana over Liberty, Justice and a culture of Heroic Goodness. What the hell have the leftists done to my Great country?

    Hoagie (58a3ec) — 2/19/2015 @ 7:57 am

  50. Can someone refresh my memory about how all that pretzel logic worked, and how long this administration kept twisting itself into a pretzel, to avoid designating Boko Haram as a terrorist organization?

    Because here we have Marie Harf (D-Chi Omega) talking about how Joseph Kony as a threat “we face.” Well, they sure came to that conclusion awfully quickly and without any struggle.

    “State Dept. Spox: Why is Nobody Talking about Kony Anymore?”

    How blind of us all! But in my own defense, I was blinded by all the smoke from the smoldering bodies of all those ISIS victims.

    Steve57 (e16ed8) — 2/19/2015 @ 8:37 am

  51. Steve57 (e16ed8) — 2/19/2015 @ 8:37 am

    “State Dept. Spox: Why is Nobody Talking about Kony Anymore?”

    A. Obama did his best to convince people that he had taken care of the problem.

    Also, it’s pretty small scale compared to some other things that have happened in Africa recently.

    They also stopped talking about things the government of Sudan is doing. We’re not talking abut Darfur either, but it’s not over.

    http://news.yahoo.com/u-slams-sudan-blocking-darfur-mass-rape-investigation-071322001.html

    U.S. slams Sudan for blocking Darfur mass rape investigation

    Reuters

    By Louis Charbonneau February 13, 2015 2:13 AM

    UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – The United States on Thursday sharply criticized Sudan for obstructing a United Nations investigation into what Washington’s U.N. envoy said were credible allegations of mass rape in the conflict-torn western Darfur region.

    Speaking at a meeting of the U.N. Security Council, U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power referred to a new report by New York-based Human Rights Watch, which accused Sudanese soldiers of raping at least 221 women and girls in the village of Tabit over the course of three days.

    The only thing the United States is doing, besides complaining in the proper forum, is lifting some
    sanctions and advocating an arms embartgo against South Sudan because of the civil war there.

    http://news.yahoo.com/us-eases-sudan-communications-sanctions-005923745.html

    (that one is probably really more to help the poosition or human rights investigations)

    http://news.yahoo.com/kerry-backs-arms-embargo-sudan-232752833.html

    (this is South Sudan)

    Sammy Finkelman (e806a6) — 2/19/2015 @ 9:00 am

  52. Looks like Marie Harf is going to be the uncontested Queen Idiot in the State Department, with Jen Psaki getting kicked upstairs to fail in bigger and better ways:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/02/19/the-promise-of-hashtag-jen-psaki-gets-a-big-promotion/

    M. Scott Eiland (725705) — 2/19/2015 @ 10:00 am

  53. So why exactly do some people believe the Libtard media, when they start quoting some purported survey which is telling us how much the public loves Obozo? And you accrpt that survey as accurate and unbiased? What did they do, take it in every freshman dorm of the local colleges?

    Mike Giles (ea55d1) — 2/19/2015 @ 10:27 am

  54. So why exactly do some people believe the Libtard media, when they start quoting some purported survey which is telling us how much the public loves Obozo? And you accrpt that survey as accurate and unbiased?

    Seems like it would be easier to doctor than employment figures, climate history, or wiki entries on African witchdoctor’s religious beliefs.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/19/2015 @ 12:19 pm

  55. Mark is absolutely correct. It has been nice knowing you America. We’ve become a nation which values gay marriage, unfettered abortion and “medicinal” marijuana over Liberty, Justice and a culture of Heroic Goodness. What the hell have the leftists done to my Great country?

    Hoagie (58a3ec) — 2/19/2015 @ 7:57 am

    Yes, marijuana is completely antithetical to liberty. Good point.

    carlitos (c24ed5) — 2/19/2015 @ 12:22 pm

  56. marijuana is completely antithetical to liberty

    When they do it, yeah. For about a year ganja clinics were sprouting like mushrooms. One on every corner. Sometimes two in a strip mall.
    Because marijuana is legal in California – right?
    Wrong. I don’t know it it was Obama’s DEA dropping the hammer, or if it was some zealot in a Californy deptm of health, weights, and storefronts. Either way the results were raids, closures, confiscations of improvements, and bewildered head shop operators wondering where their investments retirements, life savinges had gone, in between pulls on the hookah.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/19/2015 @ 12:33 pm

  57. Justice Scalia said that interstate commerce had something to do with growing, selling and smoking pot in CA. He would know, I guess.

    carlitos (c24ed5) — 2/19/2015 @ 12:44 pm

  58. So you’re saying it was Obama’s DEA. I knew it. Effin bastard.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/19/2015 @ 12:53 pm

  59. 54. …Yes, marijuana is completely antithetical to liberty. Good point.

    carlitos (c24ed5) — 2/19/2015 @ 12:22 pm

    It is a good point, as drug dependency creates more wards for the welfare state.

    There’s a reason why freedom, as far as liberals are concerned, only apply to sex and drugs. It’s good for business, if you’re in the nanny state business.

    Steve57 (e16ed8) — 2/19/2015 @ 12:54 pm

  60. Post one and its link should be required reading for any State Department job. Post 43 is spot on and if a majority of the populace cannot ascertain this ,despite the best efforts of our vaunted 4th Estate playing the” Emperor has no clothes” routine , this Republic is doomed.

    mike191 (b4a717) — 2/19/2015 @ 1:00 pm

  61. Only difference is that the christian bible does not command them to kill unbelievers and infidels. But the Koran does. A christian might be a terrorist but Christianity does not make terrorists. Another failed comparison b*tch.

    The Emperor (2da086) — 2/19/2015 @ 3:02 pm

  62. “This fellow lays out a solid case for why we are in for some trying times ahead,”

    Colonel, thanks for finding a link to his essays. I saved one from a few years ago from the Ottawa newspaper that originally published it.

    Yes: a lot of people have entertained the idea, that Mikhail Gorbachev was to the late great Soviet Union, what Barack Obama is to the surviving United States — the leader who reforms so many things so quickly that his country suddenly disappears. One recalls the speed with which the first Soviet head of state to be born after the October Revolution became its last head of state. It took him about three years: just less than the time of one U.S. presidential term. (Though he had already taken three years to warm up, as General Secretary of the Communist Party.)

    A very perspicacious essay. That was from 2008 or 2009.

    Mike K (90dfdc) — 2/19/2015 @ 3:06 pm


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