Sky News Cuts Away And Hastily Apologizes When Charlie Hebdo Writer Tries to Show Magazine’s Latest Cover
Sky News was interviewing a Charlie Hebdo writer who tried to display for the cameras the latest cover of the satirical magazine, and (as BuzzFeed might say) you won’t believe what happened next!
Here’s what Sky News was a-skeered to show:
Remarkable.
I guess Sky News n’est pas Charlie.
Where Great Britain used to be.
nk (dbc370) — 1/14/2015 @ 6:38 pmThis was not their finest hour:
Here’s an updated version of the sort of thing that once made Brits proud, and earned their leaders the respect and gratitude of the civilized world:
ropelight (14147b) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:17 pmCuts away, more accurately.
Patterico (9c670f) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:18 pmPut another way Chickenstool
f1guyus (9cbd15) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:22 pmIt’s a Rupert Murdock joint!
nk (dbc370) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:26 pmI guess if I spoke (or even read) French I might get the full appreciation of the douchiness of Sky News, but, alas, I don’t.
Gramps, the original (9e1415) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:30 pmFor the life of me, I can’t figure out who is forgiving whom. The cover can be read several ways, and several of those ways presume that muhammad can grant forgiveness. And then the question is to whom. This reasoning would surely disgust the victims of the thugs. A more reasonable explanation is that the victims forgive islam, but why?
bobathome (d4306f) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:31 pmAll is forgiven
nk (dbc370) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:33 pmI am Charlie
We spent the evening watching a portion of the PBS transcontinental railroad dvd. The photos and the scholarship, or at least the diligence spent digging through the Smithsonian’s photo collections, are commendable. But the dialog is almost a parody of our narcissistic elite. Death surronds all these men (yellow fever, scarlet fever, Indian raids, etc.) and yet we are supposed to judge them by the standards that our foopish elites believe
bobathome (d4306f) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:36 pmWhoops! My computer submitted without a command by me. At any rate, I think a century from now, if Western Civilization survives, these efforts at educating the unshaven will serve as first class humor. And the Sky News talking face will be equally discredited. Do these people spend all their time talking to eachother? Don’t they know anything about history or human nature? If so, it certainly isn’t evident.
bobathome (d4306f) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:40 pmnk, thank you but that is rather obvious. So you think the 12 people machine-gunned to death would just forgive their murderers let alone the negligence of French law enforcement? This is beyond my understanding of human nature.
If we forgive our executioners, why have laws against murder.
Is life so meaningless?
bobathome (d4306f) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:44 pmOh, I was just translating it for Gramps. I’m with you. I have no idea what they mean to say.
But it’s pretty innocuous. Even in Englandistan it cannot be hate speech to draw this.
nk (dbc370) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:54 pmI think the point of the cover is to sarcastically say “All is Forgiven” while depicting the Muslim prophet as male genitalia.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 1/14/2015 @ 7:56 pm“the sort of thing that once made Brits proud,”
Here’s another example.
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Winston Churchill
I’m sure the cowardly newspapers that cancelled his column lest he insult Hitler would do so again today for this.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:02 pmMocking crocodile tears, DRJ?
nk (dbc370) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:06 pmI think so, nk. As most people here know, I’m horrible at online sarcasm so I could certainly be wrong, but that’s how I view it.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:15 pmI guess it could also be a repentant prophet who is sorry for what he did and hopes to be forgiven, but I don’t think so.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:16 pmI think you’re right, although the French are too subtle and sophisticated for a simple farmboy like me too.
nk (dbc370) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:18 pmMy 18 was to your 16.
nk (dbc370) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:18 pmI guess that when UKIP and the National Front take power, the networks won”t show them, either.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:20 pmDRJ…ouch. I did not even notice the topology until you remarked on it.
kishnevi (a5d1b9) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:21 pmIt is vague, but I took “all is forgiven” to be the magazine, M. Hebdo so to speak, to Islam if/when it supported Hebdo. Or else a sarcasm based on Islamic failure to do so. But it is pretty vague.
An FB friend of mine is using the image as his avatar now.
The war they keep putting off keeps getting bigger.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:22 pm11
kishnevi (3719b7) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:25 pmI seem to remember a certain famous person who is important to many people here did exactly that (forgive his executioners) while being crucified.
Just saw this. French Muslims apparently have more respect for Charlie Hebdo than Skynews.
kishnevi (573b0b) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:29 pmhttp://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/14/muslim-coffee-shop-boss-faces-death-threats-for-je-suis-charlie-sign/
I think you’re on to something here DRJ. {#23)Kishnevi’s reference would seem to be at variance with what we know about the [a]religous views of Charlie, but perhaps they aspired to higher things. And if we forgive the muslim thugs their murderous ways, why bother to march for the freedom of the press or anything else. Just do your thing, get slaughtered, and let them procede on to their next victim. Doesn’t sound like a prescription for a happy (worldly) future.
bobathome (d4306f) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:43 pmThe cartoonist who drew this cover says the weeping prophet represents a “genuine plea to forgive the terrorists who murdered his colleagues.”
DRJ (a83b8b) — 1/14/2015 @ 8:57 pmThe editor says the cover means France can forgive, but not the prophet.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 1/14/2015 @ 9:00 pmMy last link also says the “French media interpreted as meaning Muhammad is forgiving the cartoonists for lampooning him.” So this means different things to different people. I’m not sure, but this magazine is very secular and known for lampooning all religions. It’s hard for me to let that affect how I view this cover.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 1/14/2015 @ 9:03 pmI should have said: It’s hard for me not to let that affect how I view this cover.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 1/14/2015 @ 9:03 pmI suspect the ambiguity is intentional. Honi soit qui bon e pense.
kishnevi (294553) — 1/14/2015 @ 9:09 pmWell, the killers are dead. Lots of people think you should forgive the dead.
nk (dbc370) — 1/14/2015 @ 9:09 pm== “French media interpreted as meaning Muhammad is forgiving the cartoonists for lampooning him.”==
This is actually what I thought the cartoonist meant. And by Mohammed in effect saying in french, “hey, it was no big deal–it’s just a silly cartoon”, it makes all the hysterical murderous Islamic radicals doing violent things in his name to avenge, look foolish and out of touch with the prophet.
elissa (10e5c7) — 1/14/2015 @ 9:20 pm32
kishnevi (a5d1b9) — 1/14/2015 @ 9:28 pmWhich in fact the point of the original* cartoon which set the killers off, the one showing Mohammed with his head in his hands crying over what the idiots were doing in his name.
* original meaning CH’s own cartoon, not the two republications of the Danish cartoons.
Pathetic, cowardly!
I have never seen such a display of craven behavior!
If I were that news reader, I would resign in shame and join a convent and do penance for the rest of my life.
Patricia (5fc097) — 1/14/2015 @ 9:53 pmForgiveness is only possible after a transgressor openly acknowledges his wrongs, expresses sincere remorse, makes restitution, promises never to do it again, and humbly asks to be forgiven. The premature gesture of forgiveness is a silly, passive/aggressive, and self-indulgent charade designed to claim the moral high ground and inflict emotional damage on the transgressor. It’s a victim’s act of retaliation.
ropelight (14147b) — 1/14/2015 @ 10:00 pm@12– Thanks, nk. Now I have the words, however the meaning remains unclear.
Gramps, the original (9e1415) — 1/14/2015 @ 11:13 pmI’ll let you folks hash it out, I’m going to bed…
I have.
It may seem bragging on myself, but if you say you’re going to do something then do it.
I got called into my Captain’s office for volunteering. I realize you’re not supposed to do that, but they needed to send somebody who had been there. I had been there, I was the right rank, I had the fleet experience. I was turned down. They were shocked I offered myself up. They read me the riot act.
One of my brushes with greatness. Secretly, they were pleased, I think.
Steve57 (be0b5f) — 1/14/2015 @ 11:37 pmYou forget a language you once said you spoke.
Steve57 (be0b5f) — 1/14/2015 @ 11:38 pmOk, having been there wasn’t a condition. But I figured it was a selling point.
Steve57 (be0b5f) — 1/14/2015 @ 11:47 pm“bravely Sir Robin ran away…”
Fing cowards…
redc1c4 (34e91b) — 1/15/2015 @ 12:40 amRed, you remember early in the war on terror there was some fighting in the Philipines. And, you I’m sure don’t remember but the Navy put the call out for an advisor for the Filipiao Navy and Marines. I’m like, “What the h*ll.” But I’m already recalled for force protection. And so my command dosen’t think if they let me go they’ll get another one. So they instruct me that I won’t volunteer.
The Philippines turned out OK it seems so it probably worked out.
Steve57 (be0b5f) — 1/15/2015 @ 2:43 amtWhat am I thinking. The Philippines turned out OK.
Steve57 (be0b5f) — 1/15/2015 @ 2:50 amWhat.
Steve57 (be0b5f) — 1/15/2015 @ 2:50 amThe muslims are coming, the muslims are coming.
mg (31009b) — 1/15/2015 @ 3:35 amAre any Revere’s around?
The following excerpt is from AP’s Lori Hinnant, 1/14/15
Cheese-eating surrender monkeys crackdown on Islamic terrorism while Barack Hussein Obama releases more terrorist leaders from GITMO. When is enough enough? It’s past time for the House to begin impeachment hearings. We’re in a war against radical Islamic terrorism and Obama isn’t on our side, there’s a mountain of evidence which more than proves it. The obvious fact is that Obama is fighting against us. Clearly, Uncle Sam has his account in the wrong bank. At a minimum, the tyrant’s dictates violate the very concept of the consent of the governed. Our elected leaders in Congress have acquiesced for far too long, it’s time for them to act like leaders instead of like lapdogs.
An American president’s designated term isn’t sacrosanct, it’s conditioned on the faithful discharge of the duties and requirements of the office. Obama has more than failed to do his job, he’s aggressively undermined our national economy, violated our laws, repeatedly lied to us, failed to respond as our citizens have been murdered, made excuses for Islamic terrorism, released captured enemy terrorists, used the institutions of the federal government to attack his political opponents, made common cause with other tyrants, and more, much more.
Every day the traitor remains in office is a stain on our nation’s honor, a rebuke to the Constitution, and a slap in the face to representative government.
ropelight (f47ba2) — 1/15/2015 @ 6:46 amYou know ropelight, that paragraph sounds awfully like the “list of grievances” from the Declaration of Independence. I urge you to keep going.
Hoagie (4dfb34) — 1/15/2015 @ 7:08 amwe’re in the best of all possible hands:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/paris-gunman-spent-three-days-in-madrid/
narciso (ee1f88) — 1/15/2015 @ 7:30 amAnd I thought it was a french chef named Charlie…
Dan (d2bbcb) — 1/15/2015 @ 10:02 amImpressive call Hoagie, high marks, I did reread the DoI minutes before I composed the comment.
ropelight (43168a) — 1/15/2015 @ 6:50 pmnot only the French:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30840160
narciso (ee1f88) — 1/15/2015 @ 6:59 pm