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1/7/2015

12 Dead in Shooting at Newspaper That Depicted Prophet Mohammed

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:20 am



There has been a mass shooting at a Paris satirical newspaper known for publishing cartoons containing comic and derogatory depictions of the prophet Mohammed. The gunmen reportedly went from room to room asking for employees by name, and famous cartoonists are among the 12 people killed. The terrorists yelled “God is great” and “we have avenged the prophet!” in Arabic upon leaving.

Even the L.A. Times, which is prone to declaring the motives of Islamic extremists a “mystery,” can’t seem to pronounce itself baffled by the motive here.

75 Responses to “12 Dead in Shooting at Newspaper That Depicted Prophet Mohammed”

  1. The black clad murderers were just incentivizing.

    elissa (1c7328)

  2. The meaning of “Allah Akbar” is not really God is great, but God is mighty.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  3. 1. WH Unsure Whether Murderous Rampage in France Is ‘Terrorism’

    I guess the answer depends on whether this was the work of amateurs or professionals, and if some third party, not present, especially if not even in France, underwrote their expenses or not.

    Like what they decided about Benghazi, though, it is a “terrorist act” regardless.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  4. now there are reports of a car bomb going off in front of a synogogue outside of Paris as well
    http://www.businessinsider.com/report-sarcelles-synagogue-car-explodes-2015-1

    rorschach256 (61bf43)

  5. Lamentable workplace violence.

    How do perps get away?

    DNF (d60700)

  6. probably those adorable lil scooters

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  7. and the meaning of “Inshallah” is not really “God willing” but “ain’t gonna happen”.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  8. an in “Muslims will one day have respect and tolerance for the beliefs and religion of others, Inshallah”.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  9. My pulse quickens in anticipation of the condemnation of this heinous act by leftists, MSM and the academia…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  10. an as

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  11. #6… Renault Meganne…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. Josh Earnest and his boss have a very tenuous grasp on reality. The decisive issue here was apparently whether any of the gunmen were once employed by the magazine, despite Earnest’s admission that this was an attack on the fundamental principles of modern society. This is akin to the appeasers prior to WWII who excused Hitler for invading his neighbors since he was just reuniting German enclaves with the mother country. Putin must take heart at this insanity. Can there be any doubt that Obola would blink for at least a day or two if Russia invaded a Baltic State in order to “repatriate Russian minorities.”

    bobathome (348c8a)

  13. Wait wait–were the murderous bastards part of an ACTUAL military? ‘Cause then of course, we’d be looking at workplace violence. Terrorism? Pshaw…. We all know Islam is a religion of peace, right? It’s not this sadistic, vile, satanic religion of murderous vermin, misogynists and pedophiles that it’s made out to be.

    Nunyadambizness (d58290)

  14. 13. bobathome (348c8a) — 1/7/2015 @ 8:29 am

    The decisive issue here was apparently whether any of the gunmen were once employed by the magazine,

    Did they really say that?

    They weren’t bothered by the claims that an cyber-attacker at SONY used to work for SONY.

    I suppose you can say you can never trust the accuracy of early reports, but probably actually they were waiting for the CIA or FBI or somebody to definitively say it was terrorism, like they used to wait for the CIA to confirm that a voice on a tape was that of Osama Usama bin Laden, and still do for Zawahiri.

    This is akin to the appeasers prior to WWII who excused Hitler for invading his neighbors since he was just reuniting German enclaves with the mother country.

    Except they were never part of Germany – they were part of Austria.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  15. The attackers in got away, and two policemen were killed.

    Now in the Bronx, there was a robbery, and five plainclothes policemen responded. These were pretty professional robbers, but not like this. One shot the other while aiming at police, and the bot escaped. The one who was shot knew what hospital to go to. But they both got arrested. They have no s.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  16. The newspaper’s own Twitter account was updated just before the attack on its offices was reported, with a cartoon wishing “all the best” to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of Islamic State militants.

    So it is a cyber-attack, too?

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  17. That was probably a red herring.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  18. The Religion-Of-Peace strikes again…

    Gramps, the original (9e1415)

  19. Violent Methodists strike again or is the French Tea Party acting up?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  20. Horrible!

    This is a new escalation–obviously, these men were highly trained and pulled off a military level attack. No more crazy jihadi outbursts of violence.

    Who trained them? Does the French military value diversity too?

    Patricia (5fc097)

  21. If this doesn’t wake Franc up, nothing will. They have had at least 3 or 4 killings in the past few months wherein the perpetrator has yelled “God is good” before killing innocent civilians and the French officials continually refer to these as “mentally ill”, with no mention of radical Islam at all.

    Further, there has been an increasing concern by French citizens over the widening “no-go” zones in their country.

    Anything but deal with the elephant in the room.

    Dana (8e74ce)

  22. Franc=France…

    Here’s an interesting look at the targeting of France.

    Dana (8e74ce)

  23. “If this doesn’t wake Franc up, nothing will.”

    Dana – Meanwhile – Angela Merkel does not approve of the anti-islamicization demonstrations in Germany.

    Egyptian President Al-Sisi calls for reform of Islamic thinking so that the rest of the world does not hate the world’s 1.6 billion Muslims.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  24. “Egypt’s el-Sisi is right. Islam is in desperate need of a reformation, because right now it is not even a religion. It is a virus.”

    – Roger Simon

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  25. clean them off planet
    rid humanity of this
    kill the savages

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  26. If Muslims wanted to give the impression that they’re all terrorists, what would they do differently?

    Nothing. They’re doing just fine as it is.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  27. Hillary will announce that we need to see this through the eyes of our enemy.

    AZ Bob (7d2a2c)

  28. Know Islam, no peace. No Islam, know peace.

    Gordon Pasha (827167)

  29. 31- I like what you did there.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  30. Knew islam, gnu peace. New islam, no peas. No extra falafel. No free carwash with fill up.

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  31. Horrible – thoughts and prayers to all involved

    mg (31009b)

  32. Someone should ask the French how that gun-control is working for them?

    askeptic (efcf22)

  33. They killed two cops. That might light a fire.

    luagha (e5bf64)

  34. It seems inconsistent to read the president’s condemnation of this terrorist attack and yet at the same time, he saw fit to condemn the maker of that Mohammed movie and have him arrested…

    Dana (8e74ce)

  35. President Obama: “The fact that this was an attack on journalists, an attack on our free press also underscores the degree to which these terrorists fear freedom — of speech and freedom of the press.”

    He’s right, and yet for one lone video maker exercising his right to free speech, the truth of the observation became a liability instead of something to be lauded.

    Dana (8e74ce)

  36. “Clits up, don’t chop”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  37. Peas be on his plate

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  38. NUKE MECCA!

    nuke mecca (d97ad5)

  39. “What difference- at this point, what difference does it make!?!?”

    – Hillary Clinton (D), commenting on today’s terrorist atrocity in France

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  40. Do you honestly think the NYT and LA Times and specific others don’t consider this Paris outcome when they purposely ignore, soft-pedal and/or down play Islamic terrorism year after year in story after story?

    elissa (1c7328)

  41. al-Sisi is right. He’s also too late. There are people alive who will see the end of several branches of Islam, expunged as Bushido, Stalinism and Naziism were before them.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  42. Dana (8e74ce) — 1/7/2015 @ 11:50 am

    The only kind of journalist that Putz knows are the ones that lick his balls, and any attack on his coterie of enablers/propagandists would be serious business.
    If, OTOH, journalists were practicing their craft in a responsible, professional manner, he wouldn’t much care if a couple of them got knocked off, as that would be fewer he would have to deal with.
    And Yes, I do think that he is that callous.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  43. Protesters in Trafalgar Square, London, stand and hold up pens and notebooks in a show of support for the journalists who lost their lives in Paris. And in a show of solidarity with France, Germans holding Je suis Charlie signs stand outside the French embassy in Berlin.

    Is anybody in America doing anything?

    elissa (1c7328)

  44. The “Wretched Scribes” have all wet themselves.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  45. Well, it’s clear now, isn’t it, that being a nice, leftist country, run by a socialist President, which welcomes Islamic immigrants and gives them welfare, protects that country from being hated by the Muslims and keeps it from being targeted for violence and terrorism.

    The multicultural Dana (f6a568)

  46. According to this report, elissa, there are some Americans doing something. although response it’s loosely , if at all, organized:

    “Best response to #CharlieHebdo attack — other than catching and punishing killers — is to escalate blasphemous satire,” Weisberg tweeted.

    The Committee to Protect Journalists issued a statement strongly condemning the attack.

    Robert Mahoney, the Committee’s deputy director, called on journalists to “stand together to send the message that such murderous attempts to silence us will not stand.”

    Conservative radio host Larry O’Connor changed his Twitter avatar to a 2011 Charlie Hebdo cover that featured a depiction of the Prophet Mohammed, a serious taboo within Islam that has incited protests in the past. On the day Charlie Hebdo was slated to run that particular cover more than three years ago, its offices caught fire.

    The Daily Beast published a slide show of some of Charlie Hebdo’s most provocative covers, with the 2011 Mohammed image posted front-and-center.

    For Josh Greenman, opinion editor at the New York Daily News, Wednesday’s carnage in Paris had implications in the United States.

    “If you’ve ever laughed at The Onion or The Daily Show, this is an attack on you,” Greenman said on Twitter.

    Julian Assange’s suggested response: “[the] world must now avenge Charlie Hebdo by swiftly republishing all their cartoons.”

    Dana (8e74ce)

  47. I guess all the burning cars in the Ban-lieu’s doesn’t count as violence and terrorism, nor the attacks on Synagogues and the random Jew.

    There is a cancer growing on the face of the World.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  48. My suggestion is to print those cartoons in the hundreds of millions (billions if need be), load them onto C-5’s and C-17’s making multiple runs from Gibralter to Karachi, pushing them out the door constantly and endlessly.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  49. My question is:

    Who paid for this: Iran or Pakistan?

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  50. Thanks for the link, Dana.

    ==“If you’ve ever laughed at The Onion or The Daily Show, this is an attack on you,==

    I Wonder if Jon Stewart will have anything to say?

    elissa (1c7328)

  51. SF, look due east from Paris about 2 time zones – a troublemaker lurks there.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  52. I heard a former Muslim now Christian pastor say that when the West makes a deliberate point about exercising free speech and offending Muslims purposefully, they take it out on the non-Muslims in their midst.

    So,…if you want to say something that will inflame Muslims, make sure a new martyr or family of a martyr thinks it was worth it.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  53. I’ll have to look for it, but I read a Pakistani (cleric, I think) tweeted that Mossad is obviously behind the attack.

    Dana (8e74ce)

  54. I may put up an open thread where everyone can discuss what might be a ‘proportional response’…

    Dana (8e74ce)

  55. Here’s another thread idea, Dana. Reporter Steve Kroft has just been outed and has admitted to a steamy treacly three year affair with a married woman. You will recall that Steve is known as a “go to” guy by the White House for friendly soft ball Obama interviews. But I’m sure there is no connection. Steve assure us his is a personal, not a professional failing.

    http://pagesix.com/2015/01/07/60-minutes-host-steve-kroft-exposed-in-nasty-affair/?_ga=1.216258515.499517331.1408313092

    elissa (1c7328)

  56. If you look on Twitter, the great Neil Gaiman wrote:

    “..How important are free speech and satire? Important enough that people will murder others to silence they kind of speech they do not like..”

    But note that some people actually started arguing with him. You see, some speech is more equal than others.

    The good news is that lots of progressive types are angry about this. Because it’s France, maybe?

    Good. The West needs to wake up.

    Simon Jester (830d51)

  57. SF, askeptic (efcf22) — 1/7/2015 @ 1:20 pm

    look due east from Paris about 2 time zones – a troublemaker lurks there.

    Yes, a little after posting that I thought about Putin, too. He does have a record of sponsoring Chechen terrorism. He’s devious like that. His greatest secret, for which he killed someone with polonium, is that he was behind a 1999 bombing on Moscow.

    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/nov/22/finally-we-know-about-moscow-bombings/

    Now, if this is the case here, the rather blockheaded idea would have been to help the Syrian government of Bashar Assad. The bombings would be blamed on ISIS, and used to demonstrate how dangerous ISIS was. If this is the case, it was probably the work of several countries: Syria, Iran and Russia. There are known to be pro-Syrian government hackers – the “Syrian electronic army” but there is no expertise in Syria. Of course ISIS does have some cyber sills, but that’s mostly in writing web pages and getting things out.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  58. Also, it makes Russia look like a reliable source for Petro-energy.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  59. This doesn’t make Russia look any more reliable – and Russia had imposed retaliatory sanctions

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  60. My vote is for Pakistan, or rather Pakistan’s rogue military intelligence agency.

    1) CBS News reported tonight that Original al Qaeda ® ™ recently has named the newspaper as a target (and the ISI is behind al Qaeda)

    2> Pakistan seems to have begun again sponsoring terror in foreign countries. India intercepted a terrorist atatck, in some way similar to the beginning of the one in Nov 2008 in Mumbai.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-30677666

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/03/world/asia/india-says-men-on-pakistani-boat-set-off-explosion-in-arabian-sea.html

    By the way, the tweet apparently was genuine. I just didn’t and don’t understand it.
    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/01/02/world/asia/ap-as-india-fishing-boat-explodes-.html

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  61. More news from Pakistan:

    Power struggle pver terror:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/31/world/asia/zaki-ur-rehman-lakhvi-mumbai-pakistan-arrested.html

    The Islamabad police on Tuesday rearrested a militant commander accused of masterminding the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attacks, just a day after a high court said he could post bail in that case. ..

    … The latest twist showed the pressure the Pakistani government is under to keep Mr. Lakhvi behind bars because of diplomatic protests by India and concerns expressed by the United States.

    “It seems to be a case of damage limitation,” said Cyril Almeida, an editor at the newspaper Dawn. “The Lakhvi bail caused disbelief in many capitals in the world.”

    He added, “Within Pakistan, it exposed that perhaps a dual system is still in place, one for the bad terrorists and another for the good pro-Kashmir, anti-India militants.”

    New York times editorial December 22 – what pakistan does is baffling:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/23/opinion/pakistans-baffling-response-to-extremism.html

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  62. French Le Point revealed the nationality of all the three Paris terrorists: (via Bloomberg:) PARIS ATTACKERS ARE FRENCH-ALGERIAN, LE POINT SAYS

    Le Metro added that two of the three men, aged 18, 32 and 34 were actually born in France.

    elissa (1c7328)

  63. that would point to Al Queda in the Maghreb, the successor organization to the GIA

    narciso (ee1f88)

  64. Imagine that – Home Grown Terrorists.
    Probably got a start torching cars.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  65. If someone wants to recruit Moslems in France, they pretty much have to be Algerians, so this doesn’t make it Al Queda in the Islamic Maghreb. They were recently in Syria, if news reports are correct, not Algeria, and were trying to find fighters for Zarqawi in Iraq in 2005.

    And Al Queda in the Islamic Maghreb is part of Original al Qaeda ® ™ = Pakistani intelligence anyway.

    I think only some groups in Libya – and in Sinai – have switched allegiances.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  66. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/paris-attack-suspect-dead-two-custody-u-s-officials-say-n281761 (two senior U.S. counterterrorism officials told NBC News)

    so much maybe then for CBS News consultant Mike Mullen’s prediction that they would hole up and then go out in a blaze of glory.

    Now they’re supposed to be linked to a Yemeni terrorist network.

    Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is indeed supposed to lend logistical support to other Al Qaeda linked groups.

    Back in 2008 Cherif Kouachi be motivated by Abu Ghraib. An obvious lie.

    Thursday has been declared a day of national mourning in France and there will be a minute of silence at noon (6am Eastern time, 3am Pacific time)

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  67. Off Topic: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/08/health/from-a-pile-of-dirt-hope-for-a-powerful-new-antibiotic.html

    But 2-3 years till any clinical trials, and 5-7 years at least till commercially available. This timeline is outrageous.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  68. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11329976/Paris-Charlie-Hebdo-attack-live.html

    Times are GMT – EST + 5.

    The youngest suspect surrendered to police. (was he actually one of them?)

    23.10 Unconfirmed reports that two suspects have been arrested and a third killed Other French media say operation is imminent with French police surrounding a block of flats, surrounded by a crowd of onlookers.

    23.45 Increasing confusion over what is happening in Reims, with police seen leaving the apartment block. iTele, a French news station, says that police were not carrying out a full scale assault on the building, but searching the scene for DNA samples. NBC, in America, however citing “two senior US counter terrorism officials” says two suspects have been arrested and a third killed.

    01.25 AFP and French broadcaster, iTele are both reporting that the youngest of the suspects, Hamyd Mourad, has surrendered to the police.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  69. Update: That report that one killer was killed appears to be wrong. Neither of the two brothers was located. So therefore what was going on in Reims appears too have been an attempt by the police to confirm the identity of the perpetrators That is, there was some DNA left at the scene (which maybe they hope or know came from the perpetrators) and the two brothers were known or suspected to have been there, or lived there, so if they can get a match they can assume maybe that they have DNA from the brothers, and then have something to compare.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)


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