College President: I’m Sorry I Said “All Lives Matter”
I see where she’s coming from. After all, it’s insensitive to those who believe that only black lives matter:
The president of prestigious Smith College is red-faced and apologetic Tuesday for telling students on the Northampton, Mass., campus that “all lives matter.”
Kathleen McCartney wrote the phrase in the subject line of an e-mail to students at the school, whose alumni include feminists Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan, former First Lady Nancy Reagan and celebrity chef Julia Child. McCartney was attempting to show support for students protesting racially charged grand jury decisions in which police in Missouri and New York were not charged in the deaths of unarmed black men.
Protesters have adopted several slogans in connection with the cases of Michael Brown and Eric Garner, including “Black Lives Matter.” McCartney’s more inclusive version of the refrain was seen as an affront that diminished the focus on black lives and racism, according to emails obtained by FoxNews.com.
“We are united in our insistence that all lives matter,” read the e-mail,in which she made clear she was strongly behind the protests, writing that the grand jury decisions had “led to a shared fury… We gather in vigil, we raise our voices in protest.”
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In response to student backlash, McCartney apologized in another campus-wide email Friday, saying she had made a mistake “despite my best intentions.”
She should give a delay in final exams to any student too distraught by her inclusive words to study.
All hail the educational establishment. These are the intellectuals who shape the attitudes of American society.
Patterico (9c670f) — 12/10/2014 @ 9:12 pmBlack lives matter! Only black lives matter!
And black lives only matter when leftist can use them to advance the narrative.
Steve57 (1985cb) — 12/10/2014 @ 9:17 pm“best intentions”
A pre-dug foxhole would suit.
DNF (7b206c) — 12/10/2014 @ 9:20 pmYes, Steve. “All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.”
It’s not just Orwell.
There is a hierarchy of victimhood. Woe unto the person who doesn’t respect that ladder of…privilege.
Simon Jester (16b80d) — 12/10/2014 @ 9:24 pmwhat it is they said
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 12/10/2014 @ 9:29 pmand then said what it was cuz
and what it will be
Best intentions my fat aunt Fanny. She tried to join a rabid dog pack and the pack turned on her because her slaver smelled wrong. Poetic something or other.
nk (dbc370) — 12/10/2014 @ 9:30 pmMaybe she ought to tell them to get over themselves and grow up – all lives matter, not just some lives.
Bill M (906260) — 12/10/2014 @ 9:37 pmUm…I’m not sure of the demographics, but I would bet large cash that the majority of Smith students at the protest were, well, rich white women of privilege.
I have seen this so many times: white people with money telling other people how poor minorities feel. It is the very definition of “whitesplaining.”
Students who feel this way should offer to give up their place at Smith to a poor minority…and pay for it.
I would take them more seriously, then.
But this is AAALLLL about the students smugly feeling superior to other people.
Simon Jester (16b80d) — 12/10/2014 @ 9:42 pmSJ, liberalism/progressivism/socialism is always all about the adherents feeling superior to other people.
That way the brutes can cheer and laugh when a cop gets run over while they protest non-existent police brutality. It’s easy for stalinist prison guards to feel morally superior to the people they’re working to death as long as they keep making up lies about the prisoners being even worse.
And then they all agree not to care about the truth.
Steve57 (1985cb) — 12/10/2014 @ 10:18 pmApparently college presidents attend some special hospital to have their spines removed, and have been doing so since 1960.
ErisGuy (76f8a7) — 12/11/2014 @ 2:01 amHeaven Sutton was unavailable for comment.
Richard Aubrey (f6d8de) — 12/11/2014 @ 4:06 amall snack cakes matter
happyfeet (831175) — 12/11/2014 @ 4:13 amTell that all lives matter stuff to State Senator Obama when he was advocating partial birth abortions.
Skeptical Voter (12e67d) — 12/11/2014 @ 5:51 amDon’t you get it? By saying “all lives matter,” President McCartney was, inter alia, saying that unborn children’s lives matter, and, heaven forfend! she can’t say that!
The pro-life Dana (f6a568) — 12/11/2014 @ 6:00 amAnd, of course, if all life matters, then Darren Wilson’s life matters as well. That justifies his defending himself from Michael Brown.
The Dana who noticed (f6a568) — 12/11/2014 @ 6:21 amBoth of these so-called martyrs of the left have several things in common. They were both black, of course and both were killed by a white cop. They were both poor, underclass and lived in poor neighborhoods. They both had extensive criminal records. But the most important similarity between the two is they were both killed by police after committing a crime while trying to be arrested.
It seems to me that had they both yielded to the police they both would most likely be here for Christmas. They didn’t, and now they won’t be.
Hoagie (4dfb34) — 12/11/2014 @ 6:43 amOnly black lives matter.
pst314 (ae6bd1) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:26 amAnd black thug lives matter most of all.
Save teh Rapey White Privileged Whales!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:32 amThis makes no sense at all. What is this world.
Just this week a grand jury refused to indict the off-duty officers moonlighting at a theater as security, who killed a Downs syndrome patron who became recalcitrant about seeing a second showing of a film and wasn’t agreeing to leave.
crickets.
http://thesource.com/2014/12/08/md-grand-jury-refuses-indictment-of-cop-who-killed-man-with-down-syndrome-who-wouldnt-leave-movie/
SarahW (267b14) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:33 amIf all lives matter, that would mean that Israeli lives mattered just as much as Palestinian lives, so the left wouldn’t be able to protest Israel defending herself.
The Dana who isn't Jewish (f6a568) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:35 amReward the furious and offended people. That’s what America has come to.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:36 amIf all lives matter, why it’d be like we’re all equal or something, which means that Affirmative Action and other racial, ethnic or gender preferences would be like, wrong or something.
The white cisheteronormative patriarchal Dana (f6a568) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:36 amIn modern America, pst314, you are correct. Only black lives matter, only black people can have no prejudice and only blacks cannot be racist no matter what they say or do. It’s post-racial Obamaland, don’t ya know?
Although perhaps we could throw in gay activists, atheists, feminists and moslems into the mix. I mean, just to add color and diversification.
Hoagie (4dfb34) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:37 amWhere on earth did you find that web site, Sarah W?
Hoagie (4dfb34) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:42 amI was searching for “Saylor/grand jury”. That one was on top.
The original is from the Wapo.
It was apparently no-billed back in March, though.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/no-criminal-charges-in-death-of-robert-saylor-frederick-man-with-down-syndrome/2013/03/22/3a723b6c-932f-11e2-8ea1-956c94b6b5b9_story.html
SarahW (267b14) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:49 am. They were both poor, underclass and lived in poor neighborhoods. They both had extensive criminal records.
Eric Garner and his wife were living in Staten Island (the borough of New York with the smallest slum population) and Lesley McSpadden and her common law and son lived in a working class suburb with unremarkable crime statistics (predominantly populated with homeowners). Eric Garner did not have a workaday job. The newspapers have not been very clear about what his wife does for a living, but unless she’s drawing disability for some occult ailment, it’s a reasonable wager she’s employed somewhere. Ditto Lesley McSpadden. Esaw Snipes Garner is certainly too old (at 47) to be drawing TANF benefits. There are parties attempting to get the courts to release Michael Brown’s juvie record, but so far it’s contents are not known. Eric Garner was more a public nuisance than a predatory criminal with dozens of minor offenses.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:49 amI read another blurb the other day, treated as new news but it’s not. It’s just relatively recent and related.
SarahW (267b14) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:50 amThe woman apologized because that’s what’s considered an embarrassment in her peer group. The problem is that the higher education nomenklatura is thickly populated with people who occupy the grey area between comical and contemptible.
And, yes, she’s inadvertently revealed the core of all forms of identity politics. The defining characteristic of feminism, black particularism, and political homosexuality is the assumption that only the sensibilities and interests of the client group matter.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:54 amDeco, I think the vaunted Charles C Johnson has said Garner was arrested for roughly half a dozen domestic/unwanted sexual touching assaults. Something like he threw his daughter and her newborn out of a car; was accused of groping genitals of some other person.
I don’t think I would necessarily accept that as a reliable report considering the source.
SarahW (267b14) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:56 amNo one else appears to have independently reported the same. So I wouldn’t consider it solid information.
SarahW (267b14) — 12/11/2014 @ 8:00 amNobody seems to be saying what Garner’s criminal record consisted of, or when it happened, besides his arrests this year for cigarette sales.
The New York Post played up his wife saying that it wasn’t racial. Apparently, she thinks it was personal. She said he used to be greeted by policemen with “Hey, cigarette man” and (to her) “cigarette man wife”)
She also said he was lazy.
This was actually on “Meet the Press”
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-transcript-december-7-2014-n263416
Sammy Finkelman (f5c867) — 12/11/2014 @ 8:08 amMy bad Art Deco, they were genuine upstanding pillars of their communities. And they still died while resisting arrest. And they still had both committed a crime regardless of whether or not they were just nuisance crimes or not. They both did something which caused them a confrontation with police. And they both will miss Christmas.
Hoagie (4dfb34) — 12/11/2014 @ 8:11 amSarahW (267b14) — 12/11/2014 @ 7:33 am
But he had no connection with organized crime, so there are no protests.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/al-sharpton-764312
And it is not just something from the 1980s. He lives outside the law. Off the books. And the debt from the Steven Pagones (Tawana Brawley) lawsuit is being paid for by anonymous cash contruibutions at fund raisers – and Pagones wouldn’t even ask for the money – at least from Tawana Brawley herself – if she’s only acknowedge the truth.
Sammy Finkelman (f5c867) — 12/11/2014 @ 8:19 amhttp://nypost.com/2014/04/14/don-king-forgives-sharpton-for-snitching-on-him-to-feds/
Al Sharpton was one associated with Don King.
And there’s another thing you need to know. Only very highly connected mob people got to be FBI informants instead of being indicted.
Theer’s something you need to know about Don King.
Before he was a boxing promoter he had another career.
http://www.clevelandmemory.org/legallandmarks/mapp/illegalsearch.html
It was only the Cleveland mob, by the way, that used bombs..
Somehow I suspect some sort of less than 6 degrees of separation link to Brett Kimberlin. Indianna isn’t all that far away.
Dollree Mapp, by the way, died recently, her death virtually unnoticed for a month.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/10/us/dollree-mapp-who-defied-police-search-in-landmark-case-is-dead.html
The best guess for her age comes from U.S. Census reports. She used different dates and even different versions of her name in her life.
Mapp vs Ohio was one of the first of several legal victories in the 1960s for organized crime.
Another one was Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347 (1967)
Sammy Finkelman (f5c867) — 12/11/2014 @ 8:33 amMy bad Art Deco, they were genuine upstanding pillars of their communities.
You’re mind seems to default to binaries. Not sure why that is.
Would not offer much of an assessment of either household, because very little has been pubblished about them. Lesley McSpadden gives every evidence of being given to crass and impetuous behavior (which does not stand you in good stead with employers) and birthed a baby at age 16, which generally is not a harbinger of good prospects (the median age for a 1st birth for black women is 23). The question at hand, however, is not whether they’re coarse or seedy or obnoxious, but whether they live in slums (answers are ‘not likely’ and ‘no’), whether or not they’re drawn from the lumpenproletariat of career criminals and chronic state dependents (possibly, but the odds are less than even). There is a class of people who have brushes with the law because the their stupidity or bad temper that really do not have it in for anyone. These people are distinct from the criminal class.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/11/2014 @ 8:44 amWhich says nothing at all. By all accounts these people were members of a poor underclass living in poor neighborhoods. Witness 34 described his fellow residents of Michael Brown’s apartment complex as having nothing to do all day except smoke pot. They don’t work. There are no jobs to be had. In fact, that was one of the motivations for burning the businesses in their neighborhoods. As they bizarrely told the press, one of their demands is that these businesses rebuild and give them jobs.
(When that doesn’t happen the Revolutionary Communists organizing these protests will convince these arsonists that shows capitalism has failed them. That the system is racist. As opposed to the fact that crime doesn’t pay.)
Neither of these families were living in these working class neighborhoods because they were working class. Whatever Brown’s mother or Garner’s wife were doing, if they were working, they clearly weren’t bringing in enough money to make ends meet let alone pull them out of poverty. Louis Head, Brown’s stepfather, was a gang member who had just gotten out of prison for a gun charge. Garner was clearly sick and tired of being arrested for selling cigarettes, but there he ws selling them again despite multiple arrests for doing so. Which leads us to the likely reason these families were in working class or middle class areas.
You may have missed the push to move section 8 housing out to the suburbs. It was all part of the liberal cult theology. If they moved the poor underclass out among the middle class then by osmosis they would acquire middle class habits. Liberals are like people who believe if you sleep with a book under your pillow, you’ll absorb the knowledge.
What happens instead, of course, is that they bring their old habits with them to the working or middle class neighborhoods. Instead of the section 8 housing residents becoming like the middle class, they begin turning their new neighborhoods into replicas of their old neighborhoods.
Criminologists, sociologists, and police have been able to map the effects in terms of crime patterns, graffiti, arrests, etc. It works like clockwork.
Steve57 (1985cb) — 12/11/2014 @ 8:59 am35 “You’re mind seems to default to binaries.”
And yours to undifferentiated mush. FO moby.
DNF (7b206c) — 12/11/2014 @ 9:09 amNo they’re not. They are part of the criminal class as witnessed by their rap sheets. That’s a weak, bull crap excuse for anti social behavior resulting in arrest. Just because one is not a violent criminal does not make him a non criminal.
I have no clue what that means but if it’s some sort of an insult so be it, and if it’s some sort of compliment, thanks.
Hoagie (4dfb34) — 12/11/2014 @ 9:12 amThe lives of potential black people matter, Not!
Life on the dole is a zero-sum game.
DNF (7b206c) — 12/11/2014 @ 9:54 amI have no clue what that means but if it’s some sort of an insult so be it, and if it’s some sort of compliment, thanks.
It’s meant as a description. You’re reaction to me taking exception to some of your characterizations is to suggest I meant they were ‘genuinely upstanding pillars of the community’, which of course I did not mean.
No they’re not. They are part of the criminal class as witnessed by their rap sheets. That’s a weak, bull crap excuse for anti social behavior resulting in arrest
Leaving the scene of an accident, disorderly conduct, public drunkenness, common assaults, driving without a license, &c. are common offenses of impetuous and not-very-disciplined people. I can imagine you fancy they’re in the same category as rapers, robbers, and car thieves, because, well, your mind defaults to binaries.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/11/2014 @ 12:01 pmMr Deco wrote:
Well, they are in the same category with rapers (sic), robbers, and car thieves: they are criminals. Leaving the scene of an accident? 9.674 times out of 10, it’s because the “leaver” is already a fugitive, or needs time to sober up.
We may treat some of these offenses less severely, but I’d point out here that that way Rudi Guiliani’s plan in New York: treat the minor offenses seriously, and nip criminality in the bud before the malefactors became major criminals, and now New York is our safest big city (at least until the idiot DeBlasio fouls it up). (Philadelphia’s catch-and-release program stands in stark contrast: they caught and released a couple of guys who wound up killing police officers.)
The binary Dana (f6a568) — 12/11/2014 @ 12:11 pm41. The binary Dana (f6a568) — 12/11/2014 @ 12:11 pm
De blasio claims crime is still going down.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/03/nyregion/violent-crime-in-new-york-has-dropped-to-historic-low-mayor-de-blasio-says.html
I think this is true, except for afew neighborhoods, and even there maybe Bratton has succeeded in driving it back down again.
I think de blasio is determined to reduce crime, except such crime as Al Sharpton is interested in.
Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f) — 12/11/2014 @ 12:39 pmMr Finkelman wrote:
Other than the apprehension of a rogue cigarette salesman . . . .
The Dana who'll believe it when he sees it (f6a568) — 12/11/2014 @ 12:57 pmall lemon tarts matter
happyfeet (a037ad) — 12/11/2014 @ 1:25 pm“Lesley McSpadden and her common law and son lived in a working class suburb with unremarkable crime statistics (predominantly populated with homeowners”
Art Deco – These phrases are something you are fond of repeating. Do you believe the crime statistics in Ferguson are uniform across all neighborhoods for some reason? Some of the folks I have seen interviewed have pointed out that gang and drug activity were particularly acute in the area where where Michael Brown was shot.
The town where I live may have unremarkable crime statistics overall as well, but there are certain neighborhoods where they are very remarkable.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/11/2014 @ 1:43 pmDe Blasio is going down on Teh Truth.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 12/11/2014 @ 1:54 pmDo you believe the crime statistics in Ferguson are uniform across all neighborhoods for some reason?
It’s a suburban township with 21,000 people in it which can be traversed from end to end on foot in about an hour and twenty minutes and by car in about seven minutes. There aren’t that many ‘neighborhoods’ therein.
I’ve lost track of how often I’ve had a variant of this discussion. Labor force participation rates between blacks and whites differ negligibly and there are about 6 million black households coast-to-coast living in owner-occupied housing. There are about 400,000 blacks in metropolitan St. Louis but the idea that 14,000 working class blacks can be found in this corner of St. Louis County paying their mortgages and going about their business the way ordinary wage-earners do is treated as some sort offense against reason even though data on crime and home-ownership are readily accessible.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/11/2014 @ 2:13 pmWell, they are in the same category with rapers (sic), robbers, and car thieves: they are criminals.
No, they’re slobs.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/11/2014 @ 2:15 pmMr Deco wrote:
Michael Brown was not living with Miss McSpadden and her live-in boyfriend when he was sent to his eternal reward, but with his grandmother:
According to snopes, Miss McSpadden and her POSSLQ were married in July of 2014.
The Dana who looked it up (1b79fa) — 12/11/2014 @ 2:19 pmMr Deco wrote:
I’m sorry, Mr Deco, but breaking the law makes you a criminal. Leaving the scene of an accident isn’t just carelessness or sloppiness, but is a criminal act.
The Dana who understands the English language (1b79fa) — 12/11/2014 @ 2:23 pmThey are in the same category as any other criminal Art Deco. The degree of bloodlust may be less but they still require police, lawyers, judges, juries, court rooms, jails and above all a great amount of our tax money to control these criminals. Which means, they are still criminals. They’re not adjudicated in civil court but criminal court. So regardless of how my mind defaults the law believes them to be criminals and treats them accordingly.
And I still don’t get what you mean by my mind defaulting to binaries.
Hoagie (4dfb34) — 12/11/2014 @ 2:33 pm“I’ve lost track of how often I’ve had a variant of this discussion.”
Art Deco – I’ve lost track of how many times you’ve repeated the same data points as if they were relevant.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/11/2014 @ 3:27 pmThe up quark, the down quark, and the electron are matter.
nk (dbc370) — 12/11/2014 @ 3:32 pm“the idea that 14,000 working class blacks can be found in this corner of St. Louis County paying their mortgages and going about their business the way ordinary wage-earners do is treated as some sort offense against reason even though data on crime and home-ownership are readily accessible.”
Art Deco – Are you taking straw man lessons from the Deporter-In-Chief? Who claimed what you are saying? Please point that out? Also, the most recent government stats I found for home ownership in Ferguson show the rate 10% below what you keep quoting, not that it makes a difference, since it’s all one neighborhood, including the apartment buildings, to you.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 12/11/2014 @ 3:41 pm44. Lemon is more than chocolate’s equal.
DNF (7b206c) — 12/11/2014 @ 8:25 pm53. I remember back in HS a weighty argument for Murray Gell-Mann’s QCD theory was the myriad sub-atomic particles then known. I think we started with three quarks(or was it six?) and a lepton.
Now we have a myriad QCD particles. Deja vu all over again.
DNF (7b206c) — 12/11/2014 @ 8:31 pmI don’t know if I should denounce the European Space Agency for this. http://thespacereporter.com/2014/12/x-ray-signal-may-offer-proof-of-dark-matter/
nk (dbc370) — 12/11/2014 @ 8:48 pmApparently to demoncrats all lives don’t matter and not even black lives matter any more. I guess since they have illegals to groom as the New Dem voters the blacks have outlived their usefulness.
Hoagie (4dfb34) — 12/12/2014 @ 8:12 am