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10/24/2014

Hatchet Attacker in NYC Had Radical Islamist Leanings

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:41 am



New York City. If the Ebola don’t get you, the hatchet-wielding Islamic extremists will.

P.S. Surely there is a long German word for “reluctance to acknowledge something that is staring you in the face but might be seen as awkward for you to openly acknowledge.”

59 Responses to “Hatchet Attacker in NYC Had Radical Islamist Leanings”

  1. Entering the text into a random translator and omitting all the spaces for comic effect yields:

    Zurückhaltungetwasdassiestarrteindasgesichtjedochalsumständlichgesehenfürsieoffenzuwerdenanerkennen.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. How about “widerwilligoffensichlichsachanerkennug”

    Bkwa (9f230f)

  3. Bigfatobamalie.

    AZ Bob (34bb80)

  4. Ezra Klein said people are obsessing about their religion. It is just an ongoing series of coincidences.

    JD (d10a47)

  5. Derheadupderassgehiden?

    nk (dbc370)

  6. This isn’t a long German word, but it fits the defition: DUMMKOPF!!!!!

    PCD (39058b)

  7. Or would you prefer: SHEISSKOPF

    PCD (39058b)

  8. I thought that any inner-city child could buy dozens of “assault weapons” and ammo at any corner gun store. How come these Islamic sickos are always armed with knives?

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  9. I think sicko primarily, and Jihadist manifestation of his nuttiness secondarily. A self-respecting terrorist would have ambushed a lone cop and taken his gun.

    nk (dbc370)

  10. It’s true that New York City cop guns are designed to hit only innocent bystanders, but a terrorist would not mind that.

    nk (dbc370)

  11. Someone as yet unidentified stopped the police officers and asked to take a picture. When the cops were lined up and looking the other way, the hatchet man suddenly emerged on cue and rushed up behind the distracted young officers and struck one rookie cop in the back of the head, then attacked another cop and was able to strike him in the arm before the other cops shot and killed the attacker and wounded another individual.

    Weather that wounded individual was part of the attack plot or an innocent by-stander hasn’t yet been made clear. However, it was not a lone wolf attack it was planned and executed by at least 2 terrorists and possibly a third recording it on video tape.

    Additionally, the hatchet was new – someone bought it for this attack. It goes for around $30.

    ropelight (33fed6)

  12. My first thought was that the attacker would turn out to be either a Muslim or a admirer of Al Sharpton.

    pst314 (ae6bd1)

  13. I think the word Obama will try to use to describe it is “Nein”

    Dejectedhead (a094a6)

  14. These might also apply:

    Honigkuchenpferd – Giant dorky grin on your face.
    Blaumachen – This is a word used to describe feeling horribly unmotivated the moment you wake up in the morning.
    Luftschloss – The expression is used to describe someone’s unrealistic dream.
    Pantoffelheld – A man who may act tough in front of his friends but can’t stand up for himself against his wife
    Zugzwang – This word is used in scenarios when you feel extreme pressure and stress to make a strategic move.
    Backpfeifengesicht – A face that is begging to be punched.

    Dejectedhead (a094a6)

  15. Random workplace violence by definition is random and can strike anywhere.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  16. This just amplifies the need for effective hatchet control laws.

    JVW (60ca93)

  17. “P.S. Surely there is a long German word for “reluctance to acknowledge something that is staring you in the face but might be seen as awkward for you to openly acknowledge.””

    I think the word you are looking for (in English) is “Liberal”

    C. S. P. Schofield (848299)

  18. Kevin M (b357ee) — 10/24/2014 @ 8:25 am

    How come these Islamic sickos are always armed with knives?

    The Ottawa Canada attacker did have arifle he wasn’t legally allowed to possess.

    He seems to have planned this for some time in advance. He had been in Ottawa since about Oct 2, and it is said went there in an attempt to get a passport.

    But some time before, he switched goals. It wa snot a spur of the moment thing.

    He still needed one thing, though, before he could go ahead. A car. He was trying to buy a “junker car” while living in that homeless shelter in Ottawa. Finally, on Tuesday he got one. the next morning, he acted.

    He started his attack by illegally parking his car, in a position from which he could sneak up on the guards at the national War memorial (one killed a guard, the other shot missed) and also escape. (He later got out of his car, and hijacked another one.

    He was not officially denied a passport, and the story so far is taht the police were not holding up his passport. But who knows?

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  19. 9. nk (dbc370) — 10/24/2014 @ 8:28 am

    A self-respecting terrorist would have ambushed a lone cop and taken his gun.

    You have to be pretty stupid to want to do this in the first place.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  20. There are exactly two kinds of Muslims. Those who support terrorism and those who are completely ignorant of the religion they practice.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  21. #4 Unless it involves Blacks and Southern White Males. Then being chris-shun matter. Or Obola’s comments on holding on to guns and religion, remembah?

    Rodney King's Spirit (8b9b5a)

  22. the word you are all looking for is “Unexpectedly”

    glad i could be of assistance. 😎

    redc1c4 (4db2c8)

  23. “The Ottawa Canada attacker did have arifle he wasn’t legally allowed to possess.”

    Sammy – So now we learn that gun control laws don’t deter those intent on committing workplace violence.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  24. I think the Brits shortened the German down to:
    Bugger all!

    askeptic (efcf22)

  25. 23- Yes, one of those evil M1894 Winchester lever-guns in .30-30 –
    similar to the ones possessed by about half the deer-hunters of the eastern seaboard and mid-west.
    But, a century ago, it was an assault weapon.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  26. 10- Another reason NOT to buy a Glock.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  27. “Leanings”?

    If all it takes is radical Islamist leanings to motivate a man to such violence, I shudder to think what a true believer might do.

    I guess the police used this description of the attacker’s politics (i.e. leanings). To think that being mealymouthed was once viewed as a shortcoming.

    ThOR (130453)

  28. A true believer would have worn a suicide-vest for running into the subway, after attacking the cops, and detonating it as a train arrived.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  29. A true believer would have worn a suicide-vest for running into the subway, after attacking the cops, and detonating it as a train arrived.

    Or, better yet, a school bus full of elementary school kids.

    JVW (60ca93)

  30. I question the ease with which assault hatchets can be bought.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  31. FYI

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juramentado

    Juramentado, in Philippine history, refers to a male Moro swordsman who attacked and killed targeted Christian police and soldiers, expecting to be killed himself, the martyrdom undertaken as an unorthodox form of personal jihad…

    We’ve been here. The lying to ourselves bit is new, though.

    Steve57 (ed9502)

  32. 24, the M1894 .30-30 was also used by the Israelis in fending off the arabs in their first war of survival after the partition.

    PCD (39058b)

  33. The msm remains fixed on a lone wolf perpetrating this bloody act, yet there are reports suggesting the possiblity of multiple parties involved in a set up.
    DNAinfo New York Video: Hatchet-Wielding Man Attacks Police Before Being Gunned Down

    This link provides the following details leading to that supposition:

    “The chaotic scene unfolded about 2 p.m. when a freelance photographer approached four officers assigned to foot patrol with the 103rd Precinct and asked to take their picture on Jamaica Avenue near 162nd Street, NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton said during a Thursday evening press conference.

    As the officers posed for the shot on the rainy street,

    No further information is provided anywhere online about this “freelance photographer” who is also a critical witness with potentially useful images taken during the attack.

    Another blog called the Gothamist reveals:

    “A hatchet-wielding man was shot dead and four NYPD officers, plus a bystander, are injured after police responded to an assault in Jamaica Queens. “

    Is there a corroborating report of this call about an assault? If not, is this could be indicative of a set up where the – as yet, unidentified ‘freelance photographer’ COINCIDENTALLY distracted these four ‘rookie’ officers PRECISELY at the moment this ax wielding jihadist attacked these unsuspecting officers posing for that photograph?

    Also suspiciously convenient is the fact that this surveillance video is focused precisely on that section of the sidewalk where this attack took place. Is this surveillance camera always facing that direction?
    Is there a witness statement on file from this “freelance photographer”?
    So many questions which suggest there is more to this story than has been revealed thus far.

    Prayers go up for the two wounded officers and the young woman who was unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time. Speedy recovery to all.

    wtd (c86d1c)

  34. There is only Islam. Jihad is the way.

    Robert Lindsay (8ed286)

  35. …Also suspiciously convenient is the fact that this surveillance video is focused precisely on that section of the sidewalk where this attack took place. Is this surveillance camera always facing that direction?…

    Unless typical surveillance cameras work wildly differently in NYC than they do in the rest of the US, yes, it’s always facing that direction. None of the systems I ever bought have cameras that move. That’s why the screen looks like this.

    http://www.firstprice24.de/images/produkte/i87/876-876-galerie.jpg

    In the bottom right, you can see what the camera that is always facing toward the door of your business is seeing.

    Steve57 (ed9502)

  36. “Unbewillingzuobservierenwasscheisseistvorlichkeit ‘

    Gazzer (cb9ee2)

  37. My progressive friends are in a massive state of self-delusion right now. Today one of them insisted to me that the newly diagnosed doctor in NYC is a “hero” for “virtually quarantining himself.”

    I said, “He rode three subways. He went to restaurants. Even after feeling ‘sluggish’ for more than a day, he decided to go bowling. Do you think he rented shoes and used a community ball? Within hours he was symptomatic. So for taking his temperature twice a day and phoning in, instead of taking the subway again to the ER, we’re going to decide he’s a hero?”

    This led to a conversation about the lack of an air travel ban between the U.S. and affected African countries. My friend insisted (per WH party line) that a ban would be “too disruptive,” that it would “divert essential resources,” and that “it probably wouldn’t work anyway.” I told him that it insulted the memory of the Berlin airlift in 1948, and that the only effort needed to implement such a ban was someone in the government sending the appropriate email to the airlines with a .pdf document/order attached. He insisted that the affected nations’ borders are so porous that people would get through anyway. I told him I was more worried about those well enough to make it to their local international airport than I was about those who despite their disease could manage to make their way through Africa to another neighboring country’s international airport, and that the inability to stop a few was no reason to ignore the obvious best way to stop the most.

    He got angry and I had to drop it. I had exceeded his capacity to tolerate cognitive dissonance.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  38. Kevin M – What kind of background checks do you need to go through to be able to buy assault hatchets?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  39. hatchet-attacker-in-nyc-had-radical-islamist-leanings/

    In other late news water is still wet.
    And
    The sun rose in the East

    f1guyus (647d76)

  40. These hatchets can easily be converted to semi-automatic hatchets and it’s not that difficult to go all the way to fully automatic. Where will it end?!?!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  41. the young woman who was unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    New York City.

    So the cops did manage to shoot an innocent bystander after all. It’s happening so often that I believe it’s official NYPD policy and they’re trained to do that at the academy. “Ok, Flaherty, you’ve got the bad guy and the young mother. That’s good for 100 points on your score. But you missed the baby altogether so that’s minus 20 for a final of 80.”

    nk (dbc370)

  42. axe in hand
    bullet in head
    stop now
    you will not win

    mg (31009b)

  43. take axe to teh cops
    you’ll see all yer virgin goats
    fuhgeddaboudit

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  44. If you’re feeling suicidal in New York City, go to a Home Depot and stand close to a guy buying a hatchet. Come NYC cop will shoot you.

    nk (dbc370)

  45. *Some*

    nk (dbc370)

  46. lmao, Col.
    virgin goats

    mg (31009b)

  47. nk, do you give shooting lessons to cops?

    mg (31009b)

  48. What’s happening in Sacramento?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  49. No, mg. But Leviticus does, I think. In court.

    When you talk about Leg Humping Media when it comes to Obama, it’s nothing compared to the butt-licking it gives to cops. Look at this article. http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Motive-Hatchet-Attack-NYPD-Zale-Thompson-Ax-Queens-Motive-280312192.html Here’s the entire entry about the shooting of a bystander. All the way at the end:

    A 29-year-old woman hit by police crossfire during the attack is also still at the hospital; she was listed in critical but stable condition.

    No, that was not “crossfire”. Only the cops were shooting. That was wild shots. Know your target and what’s behind it, “officer”. (That’s Cooper’s Rule 4, mg.)

    nk (dbc370)

  50. Those cops were on duty.

    Just another case of workplace violence.

    Estragon (ada867)

  51. They’re cops, so it’s an act of terror according to their Police Commissioner Bratton. It would have been workplace violence if it was a waitress. Why is that name, Bratton, familiar?

    nk (dbc370)

  52. He has headed up Boston, NYC (twice) and LA popo depts over the years. Proponent of the so called broken windows policing style.

    Gazzer (cb9ee2)

  53. yes, it’s a ricochet, but seriously you think the press is in favor of the police, on what planetoid
    are you on!

    narciso (ee1f88)

  54. The one where the “news reports” are police department press releases, and the police commissioner is a consultant for NBC.

    nk (dbc370)

  55. Life is beautiful in the new People’s Republic of New York!

    Patricia (5fc097)

  56. 32. 24, the M1894 .30-30 was also used by the Israelis in fending off the arabs in their first war of survival after the partition.

    PCD (39058b) — 10/24/2014 @ 12:48 pm

    Just slightly O/T. The Winchester M1894/M94 is a fine deer rifle, as well as a civilian defensive weapon (particularly the carbine chambered for pistol cartridges).

    But while it’s better than no rifle at all in a battle, it was never a successful military rifle for a number of reasons. One relate to using it in hand-to-hand combat, i.e. as a club or spear (w/bayonet), one to using it as a rifle, one concerns trying to use it again as a rifle after using it hand-to-hand combat.

    The two piece stock is fragile. There are ways to build a much more robust two-piece stock, but the M1894/94 butt is only held on with two screws. So it will break if you hit someone with it. Second, the tubular under-barrel magazine is prone to damage. You can dent the sheet metal tube just by carelessly handling the rifle.

    In other words, just by giving it to a conscript.

    But if you have to use it in hand-to-hand combat either with or without a bayonet your opponent is going to be whacking your rifle as hard as he can. The tube is bound to get dented, and a dented tubular magazine turns your repeating rifle into a single shot since cartridges upstream of the dent aren’t coming out. So if you you kill your adversary before he or you break the rifle into two odds are it’s not much of a repeating rifle anymore.

    Winchester really wanted military contracts and tried to do something about this latter weakness by making a musket version with a full length stock.

    http://www.rarewinchesters.com/gunroom/1894/M94-0503008/The%20Model%201894%20Musket.pdf

    Why they didn’t put a handguard over the barrel I don’t know, because wrapping your hand around a red-hot barrel isn’t going to do anything to improve your bayonet fighting. And after multiple shots that barrel was so hot that without a fore end it was even difficult to hold without burning your hand so you could keep shooting.

    Also there was still the matter of the weak two-piece stock.

    But the final flaw is that you can not repeatedly fire a lever action rifle from the prone position. Not while keeping it to your shoulder as you can with a bolt action rifle. You have to move the rifle around or roll around on the ground yourself, to put it or you into a position where you can work the lever without ramming it into the ground.

    The Henry rifle was popular in the Civil War because there really wasn’t anything like it (yes, I know about the Spencer, but the Confederacy didn’t consider that nearly as much of a problem nor as fearsome as that “damned Yankee rifle you load on Sunday and shoot all week”). So strengths and weaknesses compared to what? There was nothing else; it was what it was, so infantry units who purchased their own just put up with it since they anything better existed only in some designer’s imagination and was a couple of decades in the future. Also the Henry was only ever issued to a single Union cavalry unit, who had swords to brawl with. And they didn’t shoot prone.

    I only mention it because we already have calls from the usual suspects for more gun control. The same ignoramuses will not doubt be calling a Win. 1894 and “assault rifle.” Which it is nowhere near being.

    Steve57 (e92787)

  57. Well, there are some short, English words for the said syndrome. Progressive. “Liberal” (as misused nowadays). Leftist.

    Markham Shaw Pyle (599994)

  58. Oh, yeah, forgot to mention the fact that when you drop the lever on a M1894/94 basically all the guts of the rifle drop out with it exposing all the internals to the elements, the weak extraction power of the lever action, the potential for excessive head space due to the rear locking bolt, then there are the limitations this design forces onto the cartridges the rifle can use (no pointed or spire point bullets, no rimless cases, low pressure limit, etc.).

    I guess from everything I’ve said about it you’d never figure I actually like the M94.

    Steve57 (e92787)


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