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Obama: Nurses Are Prepared; Nurses: No We Aren’t

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 1:24 pm

I recently reminded you of a statement made by Obama on September 16:

In the unlikely event that someone with Ebola does reach our shores, we’ve taken new measures so that we’re prepared here at home. We’re working to help flight crews identify people who are sick, and more labs across our country now have the capacity to quickly test for the virus. We’re working with hospitals to make sure that they are prepared, and to ensure that our doctors, our nurses and our medical staff are trained, are ready, and are able to deal with a possible case safely.

Nurses beg to differ:

A majority of U.S. nurses believe their hospitals are not equipped to treat Ebola, according to the country’s largest nursing union.

Out of about 400 nurses surveyed by the National Nurses United, 80 percent said their hospitals have not taught them about Ebola or how to admit a possible Ebola patient.

About one-third of nurses said their hospitals also do not have a sufficient supply of protective gear.

“U.S. hospitals are far from ready for the Ebola outbreak,” the organization said in a statement, warning that “Everyone needs to do more to stop Ebola.”

Your federal government has it all under control, citizen. Do not believe the consistent and ubiquitous evidence to the contrary.

62 Responses to “Obama: Nurses Are Prepared; Nurses: No We Aren’t”

  1. Heckuva job, Barry.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. Maybe he meant the fake nurses from his campaign could also fake knowing about ebola?

    Regardless, Sarah Palin recently made a mistake with the address of the WH, which makes her stupider than a stump… will PBO is too much genius for the mere job of President of the United States of America

    steveg (794291)

  3. Barry is using the same propaganda ploy as a dictator who has already shut down the free press.

    It doesn’t work if people are still allowed to differ with him!

    We are still allowed to differ with him, aren’t we?

    Patricia (5fc097)

  4. It doesn’t matter if you’re ready for Obama’s Ebola epidemic or not, his Administration is working hard to make sure every single American has a firsthand opportunity to experience Ebola for themselves. Then, if you don’t already have Ebola, you can sign up for it on the Internet or pay a small fine or a tax, or whatever Lois Lerner decides is right for you.

    Remember, if you like Obama’s Ebola, you can keep his Ebola or he’ll shove it down your throat and bill you at tax time, unless you’re not alive and then you children and grandchildren will get the bill unless…well, you know.

    ropelight (943be2)

  5. Q: What do Democrats call ISIS fighters with Ebola that cross our borders?

    A: Dreamers.

    Perfectsense (18605b)

  6. why in the name of all that’s holy are flight attendants at the front lines of ebola defense?

    they’re not getting paid for this

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  7. obama can eat my bear i think

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  8. I need to order more ammo….Oh, wait, I did that yesterday….Well, that’s always something to do come Monday.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  9. The only nurses that are going to say they are prepared are those who are already practiced at various level of isolation precautions, such as people that take care of transplant and cancer patients on chemo, etc., etc.

    And I imagine some who do know what to do might be happy to say they don’t. I mean, to say you can do it is to volunteer, right?

    No one is prepared for something they’ve never seen, unless they are taught, even if they do indeed already know the basics

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  10. Obama’s talking about the fake nurses he dresses in white and places behind him as props when he bloviates about healthcare.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  11. Six years later, Obama still thinks that if he makes a speech, then he’s done the work.

    SPQR (c4e119)

  12. a friend of mine is a department head at an area hospital, and they said that while the nursing floors have isolation gear on hand, and that while the nursing floor staff was recently put through training on how to don & doff, there’s significant doubt that the ER staff would recognize the S&S as anything other than flu, and would be likely to send the pt home initially.

    only if they were full blown symptomatic would they be likely, with no guarantees, to get the DX right, and that would be after the entire ED staff, plus patients, would be exposed during the triage & w*rkup process.

    yeah, the healthcare system is ready.


    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  13. We’re sacrificial lambs being left at the holy altar in the Cathedral of I’m-Okay-You’re-Okay.

    Mark (c160ec)

  14. This entire administration has been one long, slow motion, train wreck. I feel so sorry for African Americans; their first President turns out to be a buffoon who can’t even look like he knows what he’s doing with the explicit help of a supine media. This has to hurt their pride as a people for a long time.

    C. S. P. Schofield (848299)

  15. the crappy public schools staffed by dimbulb union-whore babysitters

    the fluffy vagina-centered curriculum at America’s once-world-beating colleges and universities

    the insipid teletubby media typified by jon stewart’s spoonfed pablum and that cnn channel what pulled out all the stops to pimp out the dead newtown babies in the name of taking away people’s freedoms and failed failed failed SO embarrassingly

    the obamawhore fascists have worked so so diligently to turn americans into stupid drooling food stamp loving low information voters that when they need to educate people about something like ebola

    they’re just kinda SOL

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  16. “This case is serious,” Rick Perry, the Governor of Texas, said on Wednesday at a press conference at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital in Dallas, where the first patient diagnosed with the Ebola virus disease in the United States was being treated. “Rest assured that our system is working as it should. Professionals on every level of the chain of command know what to do to minimize this potential risk to the people of Texas and this country.”

    bless his heart

    but please god do not let this momo anywhere near the white house

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  17. note the nomenclature:

    Last week, finally, the United States government organized the deployment of three thousand aid workers and began marshalling a wider international response.

    the CDC fusterclucked the basic containment protocols, and that’s how we find ourself here.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  18. #18, narciso: Said “aid workers” being military personnel under orders. And when they arrive in Liberia they find that they will be working along side Liberians using decrepit construction equipment, with little hope of creating the 17 tent hospitals HteWon promised as part of his payback for the Nobel prize six years ago. Worse, their assisant secretary of defense, Michael Lumpkin, seems to think that C-17s will be delivering “hundreds of thousands of tons” (as in 500,000 tons, for example) in the near future. A fully loaded C-17 is on the order of 500,000 pounds, so Lumpkin is suggesting that 8000 of these planes will shortly be landing in Liberia (planes cannot carry a huge proportion of their weight in cargo, there’s all those wings and engines that have proven helpful in achieving heavier-than-air flight … note to Lumpkin.) Of course the Defense Department decided in 2009 and 205 C-17s would be ample for all possible contingencies.

    Oh, and when C-17s attempt to land at Robertsfield in Liberia they will discover that the runway is sill unusable due to damage from a civil war a decade or two ago.

    Nevermind, we really want to do the right thing, and that’s what really counts!

    bobathome (41dcc0)

  19. I know little about such things, but here is a picture and article that says a 747 landed with almost 100 tons of supplies:

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  20. #20, Doc: 100 tons is a start. Just 5000 more flights to go. Not too many rock crushers in their cargo, I’d guess. They’re kind of difficult to unload without a ramp. For that you’d need a C-17. And if 5000 747s land at Robertsfield, there might be a problem refueling them for their return flight.

    I’m sure any deficiencies will be made up by the Liberian authorities. Those that haven’t left for Geneva, anyway. Hopefully Mr. Lumpkin will still be there to pitch in. Our 3000 hospital troops will be there, for better or worse.

    In years past a ship arriving from a place with the plague would be told to anchor in the harbor and hoist a yellow flag. They would be quarantined, and no one would be allowed to leave the ship. A few weeks later they’d be allowed to land if the plague wasn’t raging through the crew.

    Good intentions can’t replace the effectiveness of these ancient remedies.

    bobathome (41dcc0)

  21. hello?

    Centers for Disease CONTROL

    it’s a whole government agency of the United State of America hello

    if you work there you get a sweet pension

    and what they do there is, they control the disease

    ebola is a disease

    therefore ebola is controlled

    do i need to draw you a picture?

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  22. United *States* of America hello i mean

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  23. Oh, I know it’s just a start Bob, just contributing what little I know that at least some big planes with lots of cargo can land there.
    But yeah, one down and a heck of a lot more to go.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  24. meanwhile way way way more people in america are dying of that exotic disease imported by the illegal central american filthurchins than are dying (so far) of the ebola

    they’re mostly but not all children

    it’s like America is beset with biblical plagues and such

    but this is probably mostly just cause we elected the Anti-Christ

    I wouldn’t over-analyze it

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  25. #24, Doc: Your link was good news, but I’m just trying to put it in perspective. Iraq is not Iowa, and Liberia is not Virginia. Liberia is probably a lot closer to Haiti if the subject is civil preparedness and preexisting capacities. If we intend to do something significant there, then we need to plan our activities with the same intensity that our generals did for our landings in the latter part of WWII … after they’d killed thousands of GIs due to their slovenly planning in the early stages, cf. Guadalcanal. But at their worst they still had some idea of what success would look like. I have a feeling Michael Lumpkin and his ilk are just bewildered, as he admitted to the nyt reporter.

    And for those who seek to calm us with statistics, I find the comparison of Ebola deaths to bicycle fatalies to be completely inane. Consider the following two series which might be analogous to Ebola and bicycle deaths on a weekly basis in the U. S.:

    “Ebola”: 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,…
    “Bikes”: 100,90,105,120,85,96,103,83,110,91,107,119,…

    The “bikes” are more significant until the 8th week, say Thanksgiving, and from then on the bicycle deaths are just noise in the fatality table. It is remarkable that those who have made their life’s calling public health appear to be completely unaware of the significance of exponential growth. Einstein considered compound interest to be one of the greatest forces on earth. The “Einsteins” who support HteWon should at least be aware of the danger posed by compound growth in reverse. But then again, the Federal Reserve appears to be completely clueless about the dangers of printing money in order to “finance” progressive political activities. So perhaps this aspect of their education was neglected. No doubt they did memorize how to subtract by adding … per the Core Curriculum guidlines. But squandering our limited brain capacities on such garbage doesn’t leave much left for more fundamental issues.

    bobathome (41dcc0)

  26. “in reverse” … hmmm … compound growth still works in fast forward mode, but the effect is the reverse of the growth of our principal, which is a good thing. If 2.5 people are infected for every victim of ebola, the growth will be more rapid than the doubling in my example.

    bobathome (41dcc0)

  27. It would be more like a forest fire I think. You’d run out of fuel locally is how it would be contained. City limit would look straight out of Heavy Metal.
    Battlestar Galactica, the city without interconnectedness, will become our last bastion of humanity .

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  28. I have a great friend who flies the C-17.
    It may take some runway work, but he will complete the mission.
    Keep him in your prayers.
    Another dear friend has a son who flies the Osprey for the Marines… prayers there too because they are facing better anti aircraft missles.

    steveg (794291)

  29. Agreed, bob.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  30. Obama is the President? Right? I mean, he’s really really SMART and SUCH?? Right? In fact, he’s a moderate, and he is REALLY REALLY REALLY GROOVY!!! Right!! And BLACK, I mean Barry McReallyGroovy is BLACK and so is his really really FIT WIFE, Michelle McBlackGroovy!!!! RIGHT?
    Well, then everything is going to be McShizzzle. We are in McReally really GROOVY hands.
    HOPE AND CHANGE AND NO EBOLA for everyone!!!

    Gus (7cc192)

  31. I feel so sorry for African Americans; their first President turns out to be a buffoon who can’t even look like he knows what he’s doing with the explicit help of a supine media.

    Obama’s connection to the domestic black population is that he married into it. Condoleeza Rice is black American. Colin Powell is West Indian, but grew up around black Americans and married one. Obama is the issue of Honolulu’s haolie bourgeoisie. When Gov. Blagojevic, who once had a job shining shoes, said ‘I’m blacker than Obama’ he was speaking the truth.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  32. Well, Art Deco, then someone has to explain all that not only to Obama but to all the minions of African Americans who overwhelmingly voted for him for one reason: he’s “black” as far as all of them are concerned. When they look at him they don’t see an American, a socialist, a leftist or even a democrat. They see a black guy plain and simple, right or wrong.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  33. This has to hurt their pride as a people for a long time.
    C. S. P. Schofield

    If living off the crumbs the democrat party tosses them doesn’t hurt their pride as a people, Obama won’t. If having a 50% bastard birthrate doesn’t hurt their pride, neither will Barry Rspect. If being led to slaughter in almost every major American city, pushed into ghettos and fed poverty level handouts from the party they keep voting for hasn’t hurt their pride I’m sure Obumbles won’t. If spending their lives with a chip on their shoulder and being a “victim” hasn’t hurt their pride by now, nothing will. If following the likes of Sharpton, Jackson, Rangel et al instead of Carson, Sowell and Williams fails to hurt their pride as a people then I suggest they have none.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  34. When they look at him they don’t see an American, a socialist, a leftist or even a democrat. They see a black guy plain and simple, right or wrong.

    I don’t agree that his race transcends everything in the minds of many black people. The reason? If he were a staunch conservative Republican, a large percentage of that same group would view him very differently, and not in a good or enthusiastic way. Then, to such people, his race would be pushed down in importance, perhaps so far down in ranking it would no longer count. At that point, they’d favor and go woo-woo for a white liberal.

    If ideology were a race (or ethnicity), that ultimately would be the only “race” that many blacks — or people of the left in general, including groups espousing things like gay rights, Latino rights, women’s rights — would care about.

    Mark (c160ec)

  35. Well, Art Deco, then someone has to explain all that not only to Obama but to all the minions of African Americans who overwhelmingly voted for him for one reason: he’s “black” as far as all of them are concerned.

    Hoagie, the last Presidential election in which the Democratic candidate failed to corral 80% of the black vote was held in 1960. Obama’s margin among blacks was 21 to 1 rather than the 8 to 1 Democratic candidates usually garner, so certain factors did have an effect. Keep in mind though the general improvement in the situation for Democratic candidates and that Michelle is appended to Obama. Clinton’s approval ratings among blacks were similar to Obama’s today. Voting behavior among blacks does appear to be identity driven (like Catholics and Protestant in Ulster. It was much more fluid 60 years ago than it is now and under optimal circumstances likely only 15% of that electorate change their minds. Any Democrat benefits from that. Ruth Messenger won about 80% of the black vote in 1997 running against a man who was arguably the most capable big city mayor in the post-war era. It’s hard to imagine a white pol who would have less rapport with black voters than Ruth Messenger, but she won their votes.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  36. Greetings:

    Nothing like some straight dope from some kind of ersatz nurses’ union, ’cause Lord knows unions have some of the highest ethical standards of any of the socio-political mobs running amok in this country. Maybe some shovel-ready TARP funds or a bit of neo-ACORN’s peoples’ pie would get them trained up or at least funded before election day 2014.

    Nurses don’t get training on infectious diseases anymore ??? Really ??? Maybe the funds were repurposed for multicultural or diversity training ???

    11B40 (844d04)

  37. Hoagie, the vast majority of blacks are working class, mostly in desultory service sector jobs. Up until recently, the census of people drawing from “Temporary Aid to Needy Families” (TANF) was down to 4,000,000. If half of them were black (as half of AFDC recipients were), about 5% of blacks would be on that dole. You have somewhat abnormal rates of participation regarding Social Security Disability and SSI, but that’s still < 7% of the black population in households drawing benefits (many of whom actually are crippled or demented and not there because of program mission creep). Mostly, 'welfare dependency' means an income supplement from grocery subsidies or (much more uncommonly) rent vouchers.

    Statistics on family formation are not good in black populations and never have been. Problem re your complaint: the majority of first born children in this country are out-of-wedlock (though some are legitimized post partum). About 80% of these bastard children are not black.

    People are not 'pushed into ghettos'. Ghettos form naturally from the dynamics of the urban housing market. The problem with ghettos is that local governments allow rot. It's feasible (and it's been done in New York) to push slum homicide rates down to about 13 per 100,000 (or a little more than a quarter the homicide rate in Detroit); you need more manpower and better tactics to do it, however. You can improve slum schools. You need to do two things, one expensive and one not: build detention centers to house incorrigibles and try to jam some remedial education into them and change the proprietorship of inner city schools, making them voucher-funded philanthropies with regents' exams functioning as quality control; it would help to prune the regulatory thicket governing them as well. Also, property taxes have unfortunate effects on the built environment in impecunious neighborhoods. Ending the collection of property taxes in slums would improve their appearance, something you could enhance by sending in extra street sweepers, more assiduous razing of abandoned properties, graffiti patrols, and setting priorities in the composition and enforcement of building codes. The ghetto does not need to be nearly as bad as it is.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  38. Maybe some shovel-ready TARP funds or a bit of neo-ACORN’s peoples’ pie would get them trained up or at least funded before election day 2014.

    Game. Set. Match. to 11B40

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  39. If he were a staunch conservative Republican, a large percentage of that same group would view him very differently, and not in a good or enthusiastic way.

    I think it would be less a reaction to policy preferences than a conception that a Republican is only passing for black. At one time in Ulster, a protestant nationalist and a Catholic Unionist were looked upon almost as if they had converted.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  40. “If living off the crumbs the democrat party tosses them doesn’t hurt their pride as a people, Obama won’t. ”

    I had an interesting moment with a daughter of mine who is a lefty, but one I can talk to, unlike her brother and sister. I said something like “Have you noticed that black Republicans tend to be darker skinned than black Democrats, at least the prominent ones ?”

    She hadn’t but we talked about it for a minute and she agreed. Among blacks, skin shade is a big deal, with light skinned blacks tending to look down on their darker brethren. Look at the black Republicans and conservatives for a moment. Clarence Thomas, Herman Caine, Ben Carson, Allen West, Condaleeza Rice. I can think of other examples.

    Now, look at the Obama Administration people. Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Eric Holder, Obama himself.

    I think there is an interesting question there,

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  41. Among blacks, skin shade is a big deal, with light skinned blacks tending to look down on their darker brethren.

    I think you’re displaced in time by about 70 years. Thomas Sowell once remarked in a piece his irritation at the machinations of the light-skinned blacks who ran the NAACP. A reviewer (Jerry Watts, now at CUNY, then a graduate student) said that passage marked Sowell as a man of a certain vintage. Just drawing a bit on personal experience, I recall a family friend reprimanding her grand-daughter for making references to skin tone (her own complexion v. her sister’s), seeing it as ill-mannered to call attention to such things.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  42. For teh Left…

    Out: Islamophobia

    In: Islamapologizing

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  43. I think you’re displaced in time by about 70 years.

    I think you need to hang around more black, Art Deco. I go to places where there are many blak people both male and female and I can tell you that I hear them comment on skin shade frequently. Hell, they’ve even talked to me about it and I’m so white I’m pink. Of course they know me. They know I’m married to an Asian and I don’t give a rats behind about a persons race unless they make it a big deal.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  44. President Armslength Fustercluck…

    Obamaspeak: OB/GYN is “Oh-Be-Guy-Nee”

    “For the president’s benefit, let me specify that means a doctor who delivers babies and takes care of the lady parts. When President Obama announced the departure of Eric Holder from his position as attorney general, he also mentioned his “good friend,” the AG’s wife, Dr. Sharon Malone, and he called her an “ohbee-guynee.” This is such a downright strange phenomenon, it almost seems as though someone raised in a fantasized USSR training camp for deep cover agents was inserted into the identity of Barack Obama and loosed upon America, a highly trained faux American. But they forgot to teach him the pronunciation of OB/GYN. Like those WW II movies where the German spy is caught because he doesn’t know who Babe Ruth is. Okay that’s ridiculous, the stuff of spy novels. Couldn’t possibly happen./But how ridiculous is being the father of two girls and not knowing the pronunciation of the kind of doctor who delivered your children?”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  45. oh dear god what’s wrong with him

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  46. see and hear it fo’ yo’selves…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  47. I think you need to hang around more black, Art Deco.

    Known plenty, at school and at work and among friends and among relations-by-marriage. The topic was rarely breached and regarded as reported, with irritation.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  48. The reason the predictive model was wrong was not a new mutation (this strain of ebola separated about 10 years ago according to calculations they have made based on the average speed of mutations)

    The reason is because as the number of cases goes up, tyhe probability of transmission goes up.

    10 cases can be contained, and maybe 100. It is much harder and takes longer to go from 100 to 1,000 than from 1,000 to 10,000.

    The precautionary measures cannot be scaled up.

    Sammy Finkelman (31cdef)

  49. Maybe it’s sort of a baby talk that Bam effected for the sake of his little girls,
    then forgot to remove from his vocabulary.

    Consistent with “wee wee’d up” and the “can we fix it? yes we can!” Bob the builder campaign slogan.

    Cheesus Rice! I still can’t get over the potus plagiarizing Bob the Builder.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  50. 47-
    Col., this is after all, they guy who said “CORPSEMAN”.
    He, in so many ways, is just not an American.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  51. you elected someone what can’t pronounce ob-gyn to reform your health care system?

    really, America?

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  52. Obi-Guy-Knee is how OB/GYN is pronounced in Chicago. How have you guys heard it?

    nk (dbc370)

  53. you say each letter separately but quickly Mr. nk

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  54. For years I’ve heard it both Obi Guy knee and OBi Gee Y En. I called my cousin (nurse) who says both are used pretty much interchangeably but maybe weight a little on the guy knee side since pronounced guykneecologist .

    elissa (d4347f)

  55. he’s still a big stupidhead

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  56. 58, for the Win!

    askeptic (efcf22)

  57. I want that Oxford Dictionary pronunciation of ob-gyn on a loop, as the bass for the soundtrack.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  58. If McCain had used the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles song for his campaign he’d be president.

    “Hero in a half shell. Turtle Power!”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  59. You know Art Deco, both you and Mark have a valid point about voting behavior among blacks. The same foolish phenomena, voting for the party that does not serve your needs and in many cases are 180 degrees against you, I’ve seen in Jewish voters. No matter how badly the dems treat Israel, no matter how they show utter contempt and anti-Semite dispositions the Jews still vote like 85% dem. So perhaps for many blacks it’s not about race but vile leftist views. The same for many Jews and soon to be the same for many Hispanics.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

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