Patterico's Pontifications

9/29/2014

John Kerry 2014 vs. John Kerry 1971

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:59 am

Harry Shearer has this satirical debate between John Kerry 1971 and John Kerry 2014 on the reasons to go to war. The clip contrasts actual audio clips of John Kerry from 2014 supporting our action in Iraq, vs. actual clips of John Kerry 1971 protesting Vietnam:

It’s humorous enough on its own, but I was struck by this passage, beginning at 5:07:

There is no negotiation with ISIL. There is nothing to negotiate. They’re not offering anyone health care of any kind. They’re not offering education of any kind. For a whole idea, or philosophy or cult, whatever you want to call it, that frankly comes out of the Stone Age.

He finally gets around to commplaining that ISIS is “cold-blooded kiddlers” (I think he means killers), but his first complaint is that . . . they aren’t offering anyone government health care or education.

Well, of course you can’t negotiate with anyone like that!

25 Responses to “John Kerry 2014 vs. John Kerry 1971”

  1. “Making a mockery of a peaceful religion.” lol.

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  2. Did Kerry laugh at his own line about ISIL providing healthcare?

    Dejectedhead (a094a6)

  3. I confess I don’t really know what, if anything, ought to be done about ISIS; the scope of the strategic implications is too much for me to grok. But the mere fact that they are “cold-blooded killers” is waaaay insufficient. We simply don’t have any sort of mandate to go around wiping out every cold-blooded killer on the planet.

    There may be very good reasons for wanting to wipe out ISIS. If there are, I’d like to hear them, instead of all this hand-wringing.

    grumpy the grump (79ea01)

  4. hoist by his own petard. Shearer does a mean Bob Schieffer…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  5. 1.“Making a mockery of a peaceful religion.” lol.

    One hears this silliness so much, one has to wonder: are our leaders really that stupid and pig-ignorant, or is this an agreed-upon diplomatic thing, so as not to poke in the eye certain valuable allies of ours whose religion it is? Maybe some or all of these ninnies secretly know the truth, but are required, pour des certaines raisons d’état, to pretend that they don’t?

    grumpy the grump (79ea01)

  6. What is ISIS’s position on low-fat, low-carb school lunches?

    nk (dbc370)

  7. Well, most governments offer health care, and even more so education or schools, although in some places parents have to pay for it.

    Maybe he means to say they’re not acting like a government.

    They do have jails, though. The first thing that ISIS/ISIL/Daesh/(the) Islamic State (militant group)/Whatchamicallit does it when it occupies new territory is establish a jail. Most people arrested are never heard from again.

    Sammy Finkelman (ca4c0f)

  8. 6. nk (dbc370) — 9/29/2014 @ 9:12 am

    What is ISIS’s position on low-fat, low-carb school lunches?

    WDME – What did Mohammed eat?

    Sammy Finkelman (ca4c0f)

  9. Or whatever the Caliph Ibrahim says.

    Sammy Finkelman (ca4c0f)

  10. It’s refreshing to see and listen to a real leader – Netanyahu – speak truth to the dour at this very moment at the UN.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  11. “What is ISIS’s position on low-fat, low-carb school lunches?”

    What is this “school” of which you speak?

    Low-carb, I know what _that_ is….

    grumpy the grump (79ea01)

  12. — What did Mohammed eat?
    — His dates.

    nk (dbc370)

  13. Kerry hasn’t changed ALL that much:

    http://www.abstractdynamics.org/archives/db711021.gif

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  14. They offer free craniectomies.

    Dave (in MA) (037445)

  15. 1971: John Kerry throws someone else’s medals over the White House wall in protest against the Vietnam War

    2014: John Kerry throws his Botox-riddled balls down the toilet to demonstrate solidarity with radical Islam.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  16. I saw a cartoonn with John Kerry and Barack Obama at the United Nations with John Kerry saying (quietly) to Barack Obama, who is wearing a big Nobel Peace Prize piece button:

    “I can help you throw away your medal.”

    http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/store/add.php?iid=116961

    The cartoon flashes off and on, more off than on after a while, because it hasn’t been paid for.

    Sammy Finkelman (ca4c0f)

  17. Actually, the cartoon stays for a period of time – maybe half a minute – after you first click on it. Only later does it stat to go on and off.

    The thumb size view of a few of them….

    http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/subject/The-John+Kerry-Comics-and-Cartoons.php

    ….stays put the way it is, and doesn’t go into a blink.

    You can also put the mouse over a cartoon and see it bigger, but that way you can
    t link to a specific cartoon.

    Sammy Finkelman (ca4c0f)

  18. He’s a Bostonian Flipping Waffle!

    htom (412a17)

  19. So, John Jerry is an opportunistic politician whose position depends are great deal on what he believes will sell. We knew that. Not that this distinguishes him much. But he’s also immoderately stupid; he didn’t foresee that running as a Veteran when he had publicly thrown away his medals and defamed his fellow vets would be a PR problem. Why the Democrats want anything to do with the silly bastard puzzles me.

    C. S. P. Schofield (848299)

  20. What is ISIS’s position on low-fat, low-carb school lunches?

    nk (dbc370) — 9/29/2014 @ 9:12 am

    Missionary, I think.

    Bill H (f9e4cd)

  21. Oh give me a break! Oh wait, I am on a break. :)

    The Emperor (edb2a1)

  22. No way is ISIS a greater threat than climate change!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  23. “and now thath it folkth
    now itth all about Ithlam”
    MSLSD

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. “and now thath it folkth
    now itth all about Ithlam”
    MSLSD

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/29/2014 @ 5:31 pm

    As an aside, Colonel, do you remember Air America? The call sign here in San Diego- I am not making this up- was KLSD. Trippy.

    Bill H (f9e4cd)

  25. unfortunately, yes, i do, Bill.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)


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