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9/21/2014

The Continuing Threat That Is Sarah Palin

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:27 am



[guest post by Dana]

In a bit of nastiness lobbed at Sarah Palin, Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic unintentionally revealed far more about himself than of Palin:

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Soon after posting the photo, and playing the victim, he deleted the photo:

“I’m deleting that Sarah Palin tweet because I don’t want to read threats made against my family,”

One is left wondering why Palin still provokes and threatens those on the left. What other reason could there be to make this photo about her? She is no longer in office, she is a private citizen who lives far outside the Beltway and seems fully focused on her family and new show. It’s amazing that a former governor, small-town wife, mother of five (and grandmother!) still wields enough power to be such a threat that she remains the default target of attack for a large swath of the population. And how sadly telling to see a grown man make such a maliciously petty tweet, and then vainly use the opportunity to blame others in order to play the victim. Certainly this behavior can’t seriously be the measure of any man! Goldberg knew what he was opening the door to when he made the tweet. He is not new to the online world where the unhinged often make their presence known: such as when Palin herself faced numerous death threats by Twitter users. And most tellingly of all, Goldberg did not apologize to Palin, thus revealing that he still remains a speck of a man.

On a side note: The photo used in the tweet is of Afghanistan’s first female police officer Lieutenant Colonel Malalai Kakar, who was killed in 2008 by the Taliban – as her son watched.

–Dana

Update: I see that Goldberg continues to dig himself deeper into the hole:

Jeffrey Goldberg @JeffreyGoldberg · Sep 19

But FWIW, I thought it was a badass photo, actually.

Still no apology.

Update 2: I just saw this tweet from Goldberg at Mollie Hemingway’s place:

Jeffrey Goldberg ✔ @JeffreyGoldberg
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@MZHemingway I apologize. I did not mean to suggest that Sarah Palin is the equivalent of a Taliban supporter.

I did not see it on his actual Twitter feed, though, but I suspect that speaks to my ignorance about tweets and the dates/times or location of replies.

133 Responses to “The Continuing Threat That Is Sarah Palin”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  2. Liberals are the worst, poorest, most incompetent judges of people and situations, of human nature, of reality, of good and bad. But they believe that since their heart is in the right place (presumably), they can be fools and naifs about the world around them. And too many people (of all political stripes) consciously or unconsciously (eg, even certain people of the right who may be tougher on Palin than Hillary) falls for that stereotype or line of bilge.

    Mark (c160ec)

  3. I brought up the liberal attacks on Palin to a self-identified feminist to point out how the left goes above and beyond to attack women aligned with the GOP. Immediately the liberal feminist started attacking Sarah Palin for being dumb and stating how scary it would be for someone so dumb to be that close to the Presidency.

    I then pointed out that the situation is no different than with Joe Biden, but he didn’t get any of the same flak as Palin. Which she agreed was the case, but then still didn’t want to concede that Palin deserved the attacks. She also believed that Palin said she could see Russia from her house.

    There’s just something about Sarah Palin that has ingrained itself in the liberal psyche.

    I’ll probably feel the same way about Obama into the future, but at least he held significant power in office.

    DejectedHead (9b0c64)

  4. He’s not a speck of a man.

    He’s a PINHEAD.

    jakee308 (d409c2)

  5. Jeffrey Goldberg makes his matzos with monkey turds. Monkey Turd Matzo Goldberg.

    nk (dbc370)

  6. Goldberg was a reservist, who chose not to serve in the Israeli army, he is far more understanding of Hamas, at times then Netanyahu.

    the whole thing stinks of Journolist, with the tale that bubbled up through the nutroots, shortly after she upbraided the President’s non strategy,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  7. Update added.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  8. he also derided homeschoolers, for their opposition to evolution who he likened to islamists,

    she doesn’t bow to the prevailing fashions, whether it was the scam that was the ACA, the Ground Zero Mosque, the expensive fraud that is QE 2

    narciso (ee1f88)

  9. Scratch a lefty and you’ll find nothing but mud and goo ander that thin, sanctimonious veneer.

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  10. The photo used in the tweet is of Afghanistan’s first female police officer Lieutenant Colonel Malalai Kakar, who was killed in 2008 by the Taliban – as her son watched.

    So, essentially — the kind of woman Sarah Palin would have been had she been raised in Afghanistan…

    Alannis: “*True* Irony is calling you”

    Smock Puppet, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (225d0d)

  11. Referring to Sarah Palin, the View host asked: “When did you want to just pop her?”

    http://weaselzippers.us/199823-the-view-host-didnt-you-just-want-to-punch-sarah-palin-in-the-face/

    Remember how conservatives were blamed for the Tucson shooting, etc.?

    AZ Bob (34bb80)

  12. the expensive fraud that is QE 2

    The Federal Reserve issues currency in return for circulating securities as a means of regulating the dimensions of the monetary base. What’s the expense to the taxpayer, and what’s the demonstrable harm to date?

    —-

    Gov. Palin is an energetic, athletic achiever who has served as both mayor of her town and governor of her state. She is and long has been a competitive woman in a boyish sort of way. She bears not the slightest resemblance to a sequestered Afghan housewife in any respect.It made him ‘think of Sarah Palin’ because he’s getting senile and a mass of images and personages he does not care for are conflated in his decaying brain.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  13. Immediately the liberal feminist started attacking Sarah Palin for being dumb and stating how scary it would be for someone so dumb to be that close to the Presidency.

    You understand she understands ‘dumb’ to mean (1) does not have a post-baccalaureate degree (which over 85% of the adult population does not) and (2) speaks with unadorned diction and flat vowels and (3) is married to a man who has worked in blue-collar occupations and (4) has athletic hobbies.

    Recall Charles Fried, quondam solicitor-general of the United States, endorsing Barack Obama for President over Sarah Palin’s presence on the ticket. That Sarah Palin had put in 11 years as a public executive to Barack Obama’s nil and that Barack Obama had not a single professional benchmark of achievement (never offered a partnership at this law firm, never granted tenure at any institution, published no scholarly articles in 12 years at the University of Chicago Law School, never established as a maven in any area of public policy in 10 years as a legislator) in anything he had ever been employed at seemed not to matter to Fried.

    What you see here is just malodorous snobbery, and these people are hardly self-conscious of it or feel any embarrassment over it.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  14. Goldberg is considered on the Right at the Atlantic. He’s not a knee-jerk leftist.

    Goldberg is focused almost exclusively on the Middle East and Israel and is a confidant of many Israeli politicians. His interview with Hillary last month made it impossible for Obama to ignore ISIS. He’s really what journalists SHOULD be.

    While I think the tweet showed incredibly poor understanding of TEA Party sensibilities, it might well mean something different to Goldberg in the context of the Middle East. A Muslim woman with a gun is pretty rad.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  15. well there was the Jezebel crew, that went ‘scanners’ from the first day on, but we know how the Journolist sought to shape her perception from the first day,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  16. So dumb = pro-life.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  17. Goldberg … Goldberg … didn’t folk like him sink the Titanic ?

    (sigh)

    Alastor (2e7f9f)

  18. Dana,

    I think that he actually did see this as a Muslim-world version of Palin: a woman who won’t take the bullsh1t anymore and starts to fight back. Try to see that image through Middle Eastern eyes.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  19. Goldberg has written repeatedly about Gov. Palin over the years. His big complaint in 2008 was that she did know anything about foreign policy or defense. What did Barack Obama know, other than the content of the position papers his staff fed him? There are more than two dozen major areas of policy with which different agencies of the federal government is pre-occupied. No working politician will be a maven with regard to more than one or two. Why would one expect John McCain, a specialist in foreign policy and the military, to pick a clone as his running mate?

    Of course you would not, if you’d given it any thought and were not just expressing revulsion for someone from a different subculture.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  20. He’s really what journalists SHOULD be.

    You mean Ivy League graduates working in cesspools of other Ivy League graduates? Or does the fact that his degree and Megan McArdle’s came from Penn rather than Harvard count as ‘diversity’?

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  21. #21: That doesn’t even rise to non sequitur

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  22. To say, as the underlying article does, that the image links Palin to the Taliban is ludicrous. To the Taliban and armed woman is like an armed goat. Worse, a woman under control of the Taliban who had a gun would only be thinking one thing: “How do I reload?”

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  23. it might well mean something different to Goldberg in the context of the Middle East. A Muslim woman with a gun is pretty rad.

    Why would it mean that to Jeffrey Goldberg? He’s a Jew from Long Island married to a doctor’s kid who runs a consulting business, and they live in Washington. That household’s a common Washington sort – haut bourgeois, trading in their articulateness, and alien to commercial enterprise.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  24. Because, Mr Deco, if you spent even 3 seconds reading what he writes, his journalism is all about the Middle East and the conflict with Israel and he has extensive contacts throughout the region. He’s also no friend of Mr Obama.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  25. I was in a conversation just the other day where someone offered how stupid Palin was, in the context of “no matter how bad Obama or the dems have been…”.
    As it was someone I just met, I didn’t reply.
    She did agree that the war on poverty has failed and talked about how people scam the welfare system,
    which made up, sort of, for hearing two people a week ago laughing about how bad Fox News is and who ever heard of people on welfare having big screen TV’s. (Which I have seen with my own eyes in section 8 housing).
    I was quiet about that one too. A back to school picnic for my daughter’s school.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  26. #21: That doesn’t even rise to non sequitur

    Think a little harder about it, KevinM. Goldberg’s viewpoint is not as stereotyped as that of the ordinary journalist. He still has his prejudices, though, and those are manifest in his discourse about Gov. Palin. And, yes it is reasonable to surmise that his nexus of associations influences that.

    I need not point out that the families of Joseph Biden, John Edwards, Joseph Liberman, and Albert Gore have been left in peace by the world’s starboard pundits and no one has ever accused any of these men of being responsible for random crimes committed by the insane, or run a massive fishing expedition through their office e-mail, or rented the house next door to them to spy on them, or filed 15 nuisance suits against them (making use of a pseudonym drawn from the characters on East Enders). The names of quondam paramours of Catherine Edwards and Ashley Biden are not known to the public.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  27. what sarah got on top her head?

    it look like it could use a good old washboard-scrubbin down by the creek yonder

    you may be cold and wet when you done but ya gotta admit it’s good clean fun!

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  28. Because, Mr Deco, if you spent even 3 seconds reading what he writes, his journalism is all about the Middle East and the conflict with Israel and he has extensive contacts throughout the region. He’s also no friend of Mr Obama.

    I do not care if he’s a friend of Obama or not. That’s not my point. My point is that he’s a man who has spent his life in and among particular subcultures and he thinks inside those boxes by default. That’s something I’d assume you’d rather not have from a ‘journalist’, but that’s what you get, as a rule. The box he’s trapped in is foetid.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  29. Joseph Goldberg is doing to Sarah Palin what Herr Goebbels did to German Jews.

    ropelight (9f2f00)

  30. Dana, thank you so much for this post.

    I too am continually amazed by the “pro-woman” people (on both sides of the aisle) that are filled with bizarre personal hatred toward the former governor. I have shared before the story of a friend of mine from elementary school (who by the way describes him as a life-long liberal when he and I went door to door for Nixon in 1972 as kiddos). He calls himself a “feminist,” yet had no problem posting that Palin head on a hooker body Photoshop. I went after him on that one. This is the same guy who is very sensitive to some of the nasty stuff posted by the Right about Obama (and I don’t care for name calling on either side). He is just a partisan hack of a hypocrite. So, like MD, I mostly keep my mouth shut, since I work in academia and more importantly don’t have so many friends I can afford to lose them.

    Don’t like a politician? Great. Don’t vote for them, and move on. All the name calling and venom? Well, that says more about the attacker than the attacked. And though mine is the minority opinion, I used the Leftist vitriol as a reminder to not do that myself.

    Your post really did a great job of bringing things down to brass tacks.

    My favorite comments from your post, that are so superb (it is precisely how I feel):

    “…And how sadly telling to see a grown man make such a maliciously petty tweet, and then vainly use the opportunity to blame others in order to play the victim….”

    Indeed. The immaturity is amazing.

    And

    “… Certainly this behavior can’t seriously be the measure of any man! …”

    Again, with the maturity issue, and the lack of responsibility for his own words.

    And

    “…Goldberg did not apologize to Palin, thus revealing that he still remains a speck of a man….”

    Thank you again, ma’am. Truly.

    Simon Jester (42ce8f)

  31. And Dana, thanks also for posting the link about Lieutenant Colonel Malalai Kakar. She was so much more than that image (and my guess is that Goldberg didn’t know….he was just sitting around surfing the net for things to snark about).

    Your link is SO worth reading, on so many levels:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/photographer-horrified-after-claims-britain-first-used-picture-of-first-afghan-policewoman-killed-by-taliban-for-ban-the-burka-campaign-9745959.html

    Look at her photograph in the article, to see someone who was truly brave, fighting against evil. She should be a feminist icon. But instead we talk about Beyonce.

    Thank you again.

    Simon Jester (42ce8f)

  32. Why it is that the Democrats are a party of preening, sissified men I haven’t a clue.
    The idea, argued by many conservatives, that Barack Obama represents some sort of aberration is the worst form of special pleading. He simply embodies a pervasive cultural phenomenon of which Jeffry Goldberg is of a kind. This is who they are.

    Starting out, lefties like Goldberg and Obama must have believed such behavior would get them laid. I suppose it did. That doesn’t say much for lefty women.

    ThOR (130453)

  33. Amen Simon

    EPWJ (c12453)

  34. It’s OK Jeff, when the real bad guys show up and start herding you into the boxcars you better hope there are some Saea Palins around to save your sorry ace.

    f1guyus (647d76)

  35. Apologies to Lennon/McCartney…

    If I fell in love with her
    Would she trap me fur?
    Or shoot me as I sleep?
    If I never voted blue
    Would she view me as one true?
    Or just
    View me as one more ol’ creep?
    I couldn’t sleep

    If I gave my vote to her
    I must be sure
    From the very start that she
    Would walk the walk but wait
    If she’s just a cute snowbilliy
    Then I
    would be sad I gave my vote
    She’d get my goat

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  36. I know this is going to be negative and unwarranted but the so called ‘Right’ hasn’t been a whole lot more insightful in their disregard of Ms. Palin.

    Seems sanctimony is something ‘we’ have in common with the Libtards, like this gerbil writing for something called ‘The Atlantic Monthly’.

    Give me a Palin, a Breitbart, a Cruz and you can shove your GOP where the Sun doesn’t shine.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  37. How right you are, Gary.

    If anything, Palin and her ilk pose a greater threat to the Romney wing of the Republican Party than to the Democrats. Establishment Republicans respond accordingly.

    This is precisely the reason voting for “a Republican who can win” is always a bad strategy. It rewards the unethical Republican leadership and penalizes those with with conservative convictions.

    ThOR (130453)

  38. “One is left wondering why Palin still provokes and threatens those on the left.”

    – Dana

    Because she is a dim-witted, mouth-frothing reactionary bingo card. She galvanized everything that was wrong with the Right and ended up on a presidential ticket.

    Leviticus (d96251)

  39. bingo!

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  40. Because she is a dim-witted, mouth-frothing reactionary bingo card. She galvanized everything that was wrong with the Right and ended up on a presidential ticket.

    Biden is so much better, right?

    hadoop (f7d5ba)

  41. Well if the premise is can win, they better, however, Landon Wilkie and Dewey, would like a word, the fact that Mittens hired three persons who were involved in diminishing her, Jones, who wrote the CYA memo, Madden who had a conniption over her wardrobe, (I’m reminded another Madden, was in a scam IPO
    with the ‘Wolf of Wall Street’) and Wayne Berman, who called her a ‘diva’

    narciso (ee1f88)

  42. There’s a cold wind blowing for The Left, and it starts in Wasilla.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  43. I was wondering how long that would take, Dana.

    Simon Jester (42ce8f)

  44. Because she is a dim-witted, mouth-frothing reactionary bingo card.

    Let’s unpack this statement, back to front.

    1. “Bingo card”? Does this epithet have any meaning at all?

    2. “Reactionary”? A la Joseph de Maistre? Exactly what principles do they have in common?

    3. “Mouth-frothing”? Have you a photograph manifesting this as a literal phenomenon? A quotation which would make the metaphorical use truthful?

    4. “Dim-witted”? Project much, champ?

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  45. No, Goldberg is not stupid, he didn’t expect that people would know who the veiled woman was, now Yglesias his former colleague at the Atlantic would have no clue.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  46. he’s from New Mexico, give the young wet-behind-the-ears schlep a break.

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  47. Because she is a dim-witted, mouth-frothing reactionary bingo card.

    That’s Santa Fe-ese for “she’s neither an adultress nor a homosexual”. When you look to translate Leftspeak, always remember that it originates in their gonads.

    nk (dbc370)

  48. coming up next on Amazing America how clean is that bar of soap in your shower and are your kids safe?

    sarah palin has the story

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  49. coming up next on Amazing America how clean is that bar of soap in your shower and are your kids safe?

    So she beat Dr. Oz to those stories.

    hadoop (f7d5ba)

  50. another great gift, discovered by a former Obama adopter

    http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-09-09/obamacare-premiums-are-magical-mystery-tour

    narciso (ee1f88)

  51. another thing she warned about, along with the invasion of the Ukraine

    http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/09/21/bear-bombers-general-collapse-status-quo/

    narciso (ee1f88)

  52. Maybe Palin should challenge Leviticus to a duel for the smearing of her as a “bingo card”
    My God man… have you no decency?

    Lots of people hate me too, but I’ve never been smart enough to make 10 million bucks off of it…
    (Think about that next time someone says she is a dim wit)
    She has the left in such a tizzy they can’t figure out that every time they insult her out in the media, she makes bank

    steveg (794291)

  53. Leviticus (d96251) — 9/21/2014 @ 12:45 pm

    Would you care to provide proof of any of those epithets being
    even slightly deserved?

    (real proof mind you. Not skits done by 3rd class washed up
    comedy writers who have a similarity of look to them. Nor stuff
    made up by insane liberal leftists. Nor the rantings and fables
    written by the 5th columnist campaign advisers that set out to
    sabotage her candidacy from the get go.)

    jakee308 (d409c2)

  54. Because she is a dim-witted, mouth-frothing reactionary bingo card. She galvanized everything that was wrong with the Right and ended up on a presidential ticket.

    Leviticus, never forget that around 95% of people in a community that epitomizes great enlightenment and stupendous success (and a high level of kindness, integrity and humaneness), Detroit, Michigan — and all its off-shoots and twins throughout America — have for over 50 years voted pretty much the same way you do, and probably shared most of your brain patterns. A sign of great intelligence, to be sure.

    BTW, I don’t know of any largely failed, pathetic, dysfunctional community anywhere in the US where over 95% of its people vote (and have continued to vote) in a strictly pro-conservative, staunchly pro-Republican manner.

    Mark (c160ec)

  55. Because she is a dim-witted, mouth-frothing reactionary bingo card. She galvanized everything that was wrong with the Right and ended up on a presidential ticket.

    I was hoping for your reaction to illustrate the insanity of the left’s Palin Derangement Syndrome. I saw a nice piece about her the other day and then couldn’t find it. This is close enough . I liked her before McCain chose her because I knew about her career and had known a somewhat similar woman in our local government. She was hated by the complacent careerists. She would read the city check register and ask why something was in there. Half the time, it was something that should not have been and they hated her.

    Sarah was like that and the left had to destroy her. Congratulations, Leviticus. I hope you like what you got.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  56. You will never find a more sissified, low-T gaggle of men than liberal guys. They’re afraid of their own shadows.

    Colonel Haiku (86020d)

  57. Leviticus thinks Tina Fey is Sarah.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  58. Leviticus thinks Tina Fey is Sarah.

    i know a whole lot of otherwise educated and intelligent people who suffer from the same stupidity…

    they absolutely BELIEVE it was Sarah who said that, not the Tina Fey bimbo…

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  59. and they refuse all efforts to show them otherwise… it’s an article of faith for the dimwits amongst us.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  60. 41. “She galvanized everything that was wrong with the Right and ended up on a presidential ticket.”

    I thin you’ve confused cause and effect, and their temporal sequence.

    What is amusing is Master Leviticus is already out-of-step with his contemporaries. Probably still expecting is education paid-in-full. The catbird seat, democracy ensures his vision of reality will come to pass.

    Tough luck sprout, even a dust bin like NM will be refined by fire.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  61. when the tanks are at the gates of warsaw, will Applebaum, consider she chose poorly:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2014/09/21/putin-i-could-have-troops-in-kiev-warsaw-and-bucharest/

    narciso (ee1f88)

  62. they have to destroy Sarah cause of she’s so powerful she can make poop come out her butt

    no wonder they’re threatened cause they hate America and Sarah has a show on cable in its first season ALL ABOUT AMERICA and Snooki & JWoww’s show is only in its third season and that show doesn’t even explain how amazing america is (with JOURNALISM like Sarah’s show) and guess who who has a Degree in JOURNALISM from several universities and colleges (Sarah) and Snooki didn’t even go to college even one place?

    if we all get together and make the tweets that say GO SARAH #BINGOBINGO all the liberal dimmocraps are going to lose their minds hah hah

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  63. who

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  64. she picked Walker and Cruz and Paul and Haley, yes it’s not perfect she picked Flake but there is something in the water, in Arizona, cottonmouth toxin I think,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  65. Dana is brilliant. She proves her point very, very well.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  66. this post has been up for like six hours and

    Still no apology.

    wtf?

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  67. y’all aren’t tweeting hard enough

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  68. jakee308 #54 – you are requiring Leviticus to provide proof while also requiring that that proof not be from what seem to be his only sources … that’s just not fair, dude !

    (grin)

    Leviticus – what happened to the rational Leviticus who could agree to disagree, and who used rational discourse ? #39 just isn’t worthy of that Leviticus …

    Alastor (2e7f9f)

  69. 52. I’m liking my rural latitude and longitude more and more.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  70. I wonder when the coup comes whether Xi and Pooter let Choombaracka live?

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  71. Yer shirking yer duty, gary. Minnesota’s the Land of 10,000 Jihadis… get busy!

    Colonel Haiku (86020d)

  72. Obama had two qualifications. He was black and he was photogenic. His natural constituency were women many of whom he had alienated by giving the finger to Hillary.

    Sarah came along. She was a woman and she was even more photogenic. She was also more man than Obama. Obama rode a bike in spandex. Sarah rode a Harley in an above the knee skirt. Obama played golf. Sarah hunted bears. Obama cuddled up to Reggie Love. Sarah has her five kids.

    In every comparison, where Obama stands any chance to look good, Sarah outshines him. It’s that simple. That’s what the left cannot forgive. That she is a good and moral person is salt on the wounds.

    nk (dbc370)

  73. That’s a reasonable way to look at it, nk. We have this whole culture of insult and destruction going on. That got brought to bear upon the former governor.

    Don’t want to vote for her? Fine. But all the personal attacks from the Left sure do show that she represents a reminder of their own deficiencies. If not, why not just move on? The immature nastiness is bizarre.

    I think it is because of the narcissism of the Left. They cannot stand proof that they are lacking in so many ways.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  74. And it’s amazing how much these folks simply cannot help it.

    Which takes us back to maturity, again.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  75. please please please don’t tell mom I said bingo card

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  76. It is not merely that, Simon, this is an orchestrated campaign, Goldberg is all about the settlements,
    which is curious because he lives in a settler state, he has admitted as much that Hamas is not about ’67, but ’47, but it doesn’t matter,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  77. Alastor (2e7f9f) — 9/21/2014 @ 3:10 pm

    What happened?
    He ‘grew’.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  78. Alastor (2e7f9f) — 9/21/2014 @ 3:10 pm

    Thanks for giving me the opportunity to take a breath before I was rash.

    Leviticus, with Alastor’s help, I’m going to assume that was not one of your better moments, and perhaps caused more by something else that was irritating you.
    Because it is the kind of comment, that if you stick by it, that will result in my losing respect for you and perhaps “writing you off”.
    Of course, for some, being “written off” by me would mean nothing, if not a cause for celebration.

    What is there about the “average mom” that was college educated not in a prestigious institution without any heritage of political power who worked her way from school board, to mayor, to governor with an 80%+ approval rating that represents the worst in the repub party?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  79. If one were to judge a person by their enemies, Palin would come out pretty good.
    Who do we respect that despises Palin??

    Name me one person, just one.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  80. stalwart and well-respected Team R nutjob Ann Barnhardt says

    I know a lot of you out there are big Sarah Palin fans. Heck, I was excited about her when she first came to prominence in ARSH 2008. But, um, we need to let that whole thing go. She’s not serious, and in fact, the whole family is now degenerating into full-blown snowbilly farce. Drunken fights … as a family? I can understand maybe one of the older kids going out and getting drunk and acting stupid, but when your family evening activity is going out and picking fights AS A FAMILY UNIT, um, no. You’re done. Thanks. I have been talking about this for years, but Sarah Palin is in no way qualified to lead western civilization out of the enormous and complex mess that it is in. Do you honestly think Sarah Palin can lead militarily a war against the Caliphate-Sino-Russian-New World Order Axis? Because any genuine leader that is going to emerge is going to have to prosecute that war. Do you think Sarah Palin has any grasp of economic, financial or banking theory? Because any genuine leader that is going to emerge is going to have to manage not just the collapse and fallout of the extant economic and financial paradigm, but also begin the rebuilding process, ensuring that the same mistakes are not allowed to recur. Do you think Sarah Palin is in any way qualified to provide serious moral leadership? Look, whether you all want to face this or not, there is some extremely unpleasant business that is going to have to be taken care of in order for there to be any hope for rebuilding after the war. The baby slaughtering is going to have to stop. The sodomitical and other sexually perverted culture and behaviors are going to have to be clamped down on severely and contained. The white collar and political crimes and criminals are going to have to be likewise gone after with a tireless ferocity, and as a corollary to that, some people are going to have to be executed. Administering justice is a huge, grave responsibility that requires tremendous wisdom and moral rectitude. That is why judges used to be so respected, because only the best men in a society were worthy of or qualified for such an important role – because they hold other men’s lives in their hands. Sarah Palin? Who couldn’t parlay her political fame into mainstream media engagements fast enough? Really? No. I certainly wish her and her family well, but, come on.

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  81. the previous brouhaha came very from a ‘very shadowy character’ *that Robert McCain unearthed, about five years ago, it was passed to another member of the nutroots up there, who is a columnist with the local McClatchy strigoi nest, one tiny problem, it was impossible for her to be at the event as described,
    but Good Morning America, and the Daily Mail, bought it ‘hook, line and sinker’

    * yes the reference to the filmmaker who was the Benghazi scapegoat was intended,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  82. Ann’s reasoning isn’t entirely brouhaha-based Mr. narciso

    she’s given this a lot of thought based on True Conservative Principles

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  83. I am not particularly well read, so the fact that I have never heard of this Ann Barnhardt person doesn’t mean much.
    That said, I stand by my claim at #81.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  84. if James Dobson is the brains of the Republican Party, Ann Barnhardt is the soul Mr. Dr.

    I’m surprised you’ve not supped at her table of wisdom heretofore

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  85. yes, I’ve heard of her, I thought her less gullible,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  86. Yeah. Ann Barnhardt wrote some interesting stuff. Too bad people sat home and allowed someone far, far less experienced to be POTUS. Twice.

    All I can say is that I did my part, and tried to help.

    Folks just don’t think. But they sure are certain of their own brilliance. It’s the other person who isn’t serious, is trailer parkish, or whatever.

    That isn’t directed to any individual; I have no interest in revisiting old arguments. What I wrote is true independent of bickering.

    I’m always, always surprised how many people—on both sides of the aisle—do bumper sticker thinking, and never consider downstream consequences of their reflexive decisions.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  87. the patterns recurr, the lawfare directed against Walker and Perry, we’ll leave it Christie for a moment, seeing as she was in Texas, addressing PTSD victims, I would find it improbable,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  88. happyfeet (a785d5) — 9/21/2014 @ 4:18 pm

    Once again, pablum puking tingle toes assumes facts not in
    evidence.

    Ann Barnhardt may have a keen grasp of the financial twiddling
    going on or about to go on and has a mighty faith and expresses it
    but she is not all that widely respected but then once again your biases
    and lack of depth of understanding that which you cannot fathom shows
    itself anew.

    As they say: “Bzzzzz Wrong! Try again”

    jakee308 (d409c2)

  89. Also, if verifiable this story would have had much wider publication. It would be on CNN 24/7. The Daily Mail is hardly a reliable source on anything. They are always going on about Lena Dunham’s toned legs, ferrcrissakes.

    Gazzer (2c8ed2)

  90. Recall Charles Fried, quondam solicitor-general of the United States, endorsing Barack Obama for President over Sarah Palin’s presence on the ticket. That Sarah Palin had put in 11 years as a public executive to Barack Obama’s nil and that Barack Obama had not a single professional benchmark of achievement (never offered a partnership at this law firm, never granted tenure at any institution, published no scholarly articles in 12 years at the University of Chicago Law School, never established as a maven in any area of public policy in 10 years as a legislator) in anything he had ever been employed at seemed not to matter to Fried.
    —– Art Deco (ee8de5) — 9/21/2014 @ 10:57 am

    Oh, it goes MUCH deeper than that.

    Dov Fischer, himself a former Chief Articles Editor of UCLA Law Review, wrote this piece for the American Thinker:
    Stop It Already — He’s Not So Smart

    The most damning comment he makes:


    To be selected as Chief Articles Editor, I had to research and write the Law Review Comment of a lifetime. In time, it was published and deemed good enough that I was named law review chief articles editor. In the years that followed, that Law Review Comment has been cited by federal courts in at least seven published judicial opinions, and in several other unpublished opinions. It has been cited and quoted often in other people’s legal scholarship.

    And that is “how it works.” To be a law review editor-in-chief, a Chief Articles Editor, a Chief Comments Editor of a law review, it is a sine qua non that you publish something fabulous, a real scholarly piece of work. Many dozens of America’s finest law students do exactly that every year. Those articles later become part of a vast searchable electronic library of legal scholarship.

    The thing is, I cannot find Barack Obama’s great piece of work, the scholarship one would presume he researched, drafted, crafted, and honed, that earned him the presidency of the Harvard Law Review. The name “Obama” is the kind of search term that should do the job. But I cannot find any scholarship published by him that reveals the exceptional brilliance that paved the way to his achievement.

    In short, he didn’t even do anything of significant note in Law School.

    If he were a Republican, the media would have demanded the results from his latest proctology exam, to say nothing of transcripts, birth certificates, and the like… As it is, there’s remarkably little to explain how he got to do ANYTHING that has been attributed to him. Not to suggest I believe it, but for all we know, he really COULD be a long-term Russian plant. Certainly the media hasn’t done its job of scrutinizing him in any way at all.

    And this is why it’s better, no matter your own point of view on Left-Right, for the Right to be in at least moderate charge. Because when the Right is in charge, the media does its fucking job, and carefully scrutinizes things done by “the opposition”.

    Smock Puppet, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (225d0d)

  91. happyfeet (a785d5) — 9/21/2014 @ 4:24 pm

    You couldn’t spot a true conservative principle if it sat in your lap.

    What you do spot and spew are the buzz words and fantasizing done by
    the so called intellectuals of the left as to what they wish those
    principles were or what they think their own sycophants want to hear are
    conservative principles.

    For if True Conservative Principles were spoken by liberals, their
    tongues would shrivel and they would sink into the nether pit of hell
    from which they sprang. Sort of like speaking the words of Jesus does
    for Satan or holy water does for demons.

    It’s why so many of the perverted left wishes to destroy the church;
    it maintains so many of the weapons needed to counteract evil and deviltry.

    Ann, sad to say, is a bit overextended in her views and though some of
    what she says parallels conservative thought, she by no means is the
    penultimate exemplar of it’s representatives. Nor does she have the right
    to pass judgment given her own beams.

    So though YOU may think she is, most do not. Plus she exhibits a bit of
    envy I believe and a too eager acceptance of what is said about Palin rather
    than what is the truth about Palin.

    Sort of like yourself.

    jakee308 (d409c2)

  92. Simon,

    It was going to take an extraordinary effort to defeat such a media creation such as Obama in 2004 unfortunately for Palin, the early uprising of anger at the Bush/RINO/Establishment and the name calling led to the division and the loss – the anger. I squarely blame both sides – it was obvious that the Lott group went way past any reasonable priciples – whether it was from decades in the minority and a fear of a 66 vote democrat senate or was it from K street or a combination – but the fact was without term limits this is a problem for both sides – the left became too left and the right went too far to the middle.

    Palin has to recognize this if she is ever going to rise beyond the barbs and show the leadership many say she has – its time for her to show it.

    EPWJ (0c89e8)

  93. 86. Meh. I believe Feets is playing us for fools.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  94. @ Leviticus,

    Because she is a dim-witted, mouth-frothing reactionary bingo card.
    Leviticus (d96251) — 9/21/2014 @ 12:45 pm

    Leviticus, I am glad to see you comment. I am, however, disappointed that you played in pedestrian twaddle with this part of your comment because I have higher expectations of you.

    She galvanized everything that was wrong with the Right and ended up on a presidential ticket.

    I can’t tell if this comes with scorn, so I will say that it’s still strange to me that Palin, with her populist brand of conservatism ended up on the ticket with the one person who it would seem would be able to just as easily run on a Democratic ticket. With that, I would appreciate it if you would take the time to explain what you meant by the whole of your comment because the parts seem contradictory to me.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  95. there are some character like the mogwai, the head of the Anchorage Chamber of Commerce, Andrew Halcro, a yellow dog union leader, from down yonder, a mr, Chance, a certain talk show import from Louisiana,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  96. 90, 92. Note to self: Do not piss jakee off.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  97. If you understand the oligarchical nature of Alaskan politics, she stands as an iconoclast, even her Democrat predecessor was a Yale educated oilman

    narciso (ee1f88)

  98. Alright Ann B., show us what you got:

    China has docked a Navy Destroyer in a Southern Iranian port of Bandar-Abbas – right across the Straits of Hormuz from ‘US stronghold-for-now’ Bahrain and UAE.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  99. Leviticus – what happened to the rational Leviticus who could agree to disagree, and who used rational discourse?

    He merely proves that if you scratch a bit below the surface of many people on the left, a garden-variety flaming liberal pops out. After all, there are good arguments that even a “leftie” can make against Palin that have nothing to do with her ideology. For instance, the overly smiley-face news-reporter demeanor that she displays on many occasions, and which can be off-putting and make her seem lightweight or un-serious.

    Putting her idiosyncrasies aside, I’ll never forget (or ever forgive) the snotty reaction that liberals had towards Margaret Thatcher on the day of her funeral in London. Their need to display petty, bitter demonstrations against the woman right at the very end spoke volumes about the true nature of liberalism and liberals. That such people perceive themselves as being very compassionate, generous, loving and tolerant souls is what really sickens me.

    Mark (c160ec)

  100. Simon Jester,

    Thank you for the encouraging words.

    Shorter: Palin = Pavlovian.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  101. Oh, and for your valedictory, expatiate at length, with particular attention and detail on ‘Shadow Bankng’:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/09-overflow/20140921_GLI.jpg

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  102. i thought she was pentecostal

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  103. 102. In a word, hypocrisy.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  104. Kevin M @ 19,

    I think that he actually did see this as a Muslim-world version of Palin: a woman who won’t take the bullsh1t anymore and starts to fight back. Try to see that image through Middle Eastern eyes.

    That’s giving Goldberg a lot of benefit of the doubt, Kevin. The eyes of who, a Middle Eastern man??? How do you square that given all that we know about the subjugation of women throughout the region and the fact that the woman is still a ghost in a walking coffin?

    Dana (4dbf62)

  105. Suppose the tweet had been “The Islamic world’s worst nightmare” [a pissed-off woman with a gun]?

    There is no such thing as an armed Taliban woman, nor for that matter an unarmed one. TO say that Goldberg was suggesting that Palin is a Taliban is ignorant in so many ways it’s hard to know where to start.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  106. 105. Among Catholics the term is Charismatic.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  107. Dana,

    That ignorant comment referred to the writer at the link, not you. crosspost.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  108. #107:

    Dana, I give him the benefit of the doubt because I’ve read a LOT of his stuff and it is usually insightful and knowledgeable about the region. Go read his stuff and tell me you believe he thinks that image represents a Taliban ideal.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  109. Thanks for clarifying. I was midway through a dilly of a response to you! I should have known better.

    I think it would be helpful to expound on your “through Middle Eastern eyes” take.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  110. Kevin M,

    You are correct. And I am willing to give Goldberg the benefit of the doubt and believe that he means what I just saw this linked at Mollie Hemingway’s place:

    Jeffrey Goldberg ✔ @JeffreyGoldberg
    Follow

    @MZHemingway I apologize. I did not mean to suggest that Sarah Palin is the equivalent of a Taliban supporter.

    I will add it to the post. I did not see it on his Twitter feed, though. That, I would guess, speaks to my ignorance about tweets and the dates/times or location of replies.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  111. 102. It has been a particularly bad year for his heroine, Gay Prostitute.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  112. I don’t think Francis will end an intellectual standout as Popes go.

    http://pamelageller.com/2014/09/pope-calls-for-muslims-to-condemn-those-who-pervert-religion-to-justify-violence.html/

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  113. I think it is fair to say that Palin would have been armed with 30.06 rifle, perhaps semiautomatic, and she would have known how to use it. The heroic woman in the photo would have been better served with kevlar armor and an M4. And support troops who honored her as a member of the human race.

    bobathome (5ccbd8)

  114. Well Goldberg may understand the Middle East–but he knows from shinola about Middle America.

    Skeptical Voter (12e67d)

  115. The left’s obsession with Sarah Palin is either a malignant social disorder or a manifestation of Fountains of Wayne fans. Really? Sarah Palin?

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  116. I also tried to see something complimentary about Sarah in the picture and Goldberg’s comment, but if it’s there I don’t get it. My best take was that he was calling Sarah a moribund religious traditionalist who likes guns.

    nk (dbc370)

  117. This kind of thing reminds me of when someone say something insulting, and when called on it, replies, “Hey, don’t take it personally!” That’s what happened here. Goldberg couldn’t help making a snarky comment, and when called on it, first claimed it was misunderstood, then claimed he was under threats.

    It’s not tough. Treat other people the way you would like to be treated. But this weird mentality has evolved nowadays that it is just fine to say really awful things about people you have never met. Things you would never dare say in person to someone.

    A lack of civility is somehow considered weak these days.

    Simon Jester (9848db)

  118. nk–

    Consider how “uppity” a woman with a gun would seem to a Taliban, who sees a woman as worth maybe two goats.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  119. Only some get the un person treatment, whereas Red Squaw and the Solon (biden) do not.

    narciso (ea0f8c)

  120. I may be biased, by this recent survey. http://www.religionnews.com/2014/07/16/atheist-muslims-evangelicals-jews-pew/

    “White evangelicals give their highest warmth score to Jews, 69. However, all that warmth is not reciprocated. Jews gave evangelicals overall a much cooler score of 34.”

    Or Goldberg may be biased.

    nk (dbc370)

  121. Well Goldberg may understand the Middle East–but he knows from shinola about Middle America.

    He’s spent about three years of his life in Israel, about three years in Philadelphia, and the rest in and around New York and Washington. His wife is a doctor’s kid from Providence, RI. People who live in small towns and have rustic hobbies are foreigners to them.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  122. Providence is something less than a cosmopolitan city

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  123. With all due respect to Kevin, I do think it’s a variant of “clinging bitterly to their guns and Bibles” with Bibles being impliedly equated to the Koran.

    nk (dbc370)

  124. 128. Second.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  125. Its a perfect storm for the EU.

    “If a clear break in the yen downwards against both the dollar and euro is occurring, not only will this spell trouble for the beleaguered Chinese economy and exacerbate deflation in the west, but it will also break the spell of German economic dominance”

    Icelandic volcano tossing out a Richter 5 or two daily blowing cold winter ahead of it, Ebola headed for the million case mark by New Years, the yen crashing the export recovery of Germany and deeping recession in China, the Ukraine war going regional, ISIS going for the soft underbelly, time to emigrate to Oz.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  126. I’ve picked up the Atlantic in dentist offices most of my life. Obtuse, self-important dreck without exception.

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  127. I also wonder why Goldbug assumed, seeing the gun, a woman was under the burqa?

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  128. you have a point, gary

    Also, Goldberg showed remarkable ignorance of grassroots US politics by stepping in this crap. The benefit of the doubt I gave him was that he was ignorant of that, since the alternative was to assume he didn’t know crap about Islam which would be odd for a confidant of the Israelis.

    Kevin M (b357ee)


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