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9/18/2014

Racism Narrative Collapses Further: Pictures Emerge of Django Unchained Actress’s Enthusiastic Public Making-Out Session

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:39 am



TMZ sez: Django Actress — We Got the Pictures AND IT LOOKS LIKE SEX. It’s an attention-grabbing headline, which is what they’re good at, but I don’t know that the pictures “look like sex.” They look like two clothed people all over each other, however, in a car with an open door — and I can easily imagine onlookers thinking there is prostitution going on here.

So, let’s recap.

Last week the story from Reason was: black actress mostly minding her own business — perhaps enjoying a smooch or two in a car with her husband, as you do — meets overbearing cop who assumes she is a prostitute because she is black. She heroically refuses to surrender her ID, and is handcuffed because, well, she is black and being uppity.

Today we know: the woman and her husband are pawing each other, straddling each other, and holding onto the sun roof for support as they maul each other in a car with an open door. A bored cop shows up in response to a “lewd acts in public” call from a citizen, and contacts the couple meeting the description. He legally asks for ID as part of his routine investigation into a possible crime reported by members of the public. The actress mouths off, refuses to comply with the law, talks about how she has a publicist, and generally acts entitled. The bored cop says: “I’m Mildly Interested That You Have a Publicist, But I’m Going to Get Your ID”. Finally, the husband gives up the ID, and the cop goes away.

MAJOR RACISM STORY!!!

It’s hard not to think of Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown, where a narrative of Total Racial Oppression collapses as facts emerge. As Big Media continues to do this, a Boy Who Cried Wolf phenomenon may set in, wherein actual stories of racism are viewed with deep suspicion by the intelligent and unbiased observer, because past narratives have always tended to hide the relevant facts until the narrative is set.

As long as you remember that Big Media is not truly about facts, but rather about entertainment and sensationalism, you’re less likely to get fooled — whether being fooled means getting taken in by race hustlers, or becoming deadened to actual injustice.

Just take everything Big Media says with a grain — hell, with giant fistfuls — of salt, and you’ll be fine.

66 Responses to “Racism Narrative Collapses Further: Pictures Emerge of Django Unchained Actress’s Enthusiastic Public Making-Out Session”

  1. The InfoTainment industry has been lying to us in one form or another
    for a hundred years.

    It’s all based on make believe. Gossip. Dirt. Salacious tales.

    Think of how many major details they get wrong about daily life.

    And they spread those lies to the young, naive and ill informed.

    It’s a wonder we still have any sort of civilization after the onslaught

    of fairy tales they have foisted upon us.

    jakee308 (755866)

  2. I enjoy that the Mercedes in question had no bumper.

    Dejectedhead (a094a6)

  3. They got me with Duke LaCrosse. They won’t do it again.

    f1guyus (647d76)

  4. Listening to the tape, the whole prostitution narrative is incredible. Nobody except Chef Boyfriend brought up the topic, and he did so only in regards to how he was made to feeeeeeeeeel. Ditto race with her. She was itching for a platform to use her status as someone with a publicist that has studied the law to allow her to do this.

    The entire incident is laughable.

    JD (fe9d30)

  5. I’m having a chuckle at the expense of the Reason Foundation.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  6. If she’s going to dress like a street hooker–although that makes her just part of a large plurality of some women these days, and get in a car, hold on to the sunroof and “simulate” bouncing on her boyfriend’s banana, some outraged citizen is likely to complain of lewd acts in public. And so it goes from there.

    Best line of the whole encounter was, “I’m mildly interested that you have a publicist.”

    Skeptical Voter (12e67d)

  7. Maybe I misunderstood the law.

    Short and sweet: Can a cop ask random pedestrians for their ID, and, if they refuse, “detain” them?

    If not, and there has to be a reasonable suspicion of an offense, does an anonymous phone call count as proof toward that suspicion?

    If either one of those statements is true, why has California refused to use this power to deport the hordes of illegals infesting LA?

    If neither of those statements is true, what make you say that the cop was in the right?

    bud (30d398)

  8. Notice no other Hollywood elites are sticking up for her. They know the truth.

    I guess there is no such thing as bad publicity. :)

    Patricia (5fc097)

  9. And ISIS is shaking in its boots by this display of American seriousness. (Yes, I know which thread this is.)

    nk (dbc370)

  10. bud (30d398) — 9/18/2014 @ 9:24 am

    why has California refused to use this power to deport the hordes of illegals infesting

    Well, for one thing, it doesn’t want to and neither does it regard people as an “infestation”

    And police experts advise not to grab people at random, and deter people from reporting crimes to police, or cause people to run away from police, or distrust police.

    And it wasn’t the state of California that made anyone’s presence illegal. State’s rights!

    And if anyone did call ICE, they wouldn’t come, and that was true before Obama, and in fact has been true all these years, in spite of what government worker union propaganda might lead you to believe, and it is a violation of habues corpus to hold snyone who violated no state law, wh sn’t wanted by some other authority.

    Sammy Finkelman (6d2ca9)

  11. bud – California does not have a stop and id law applying a “random pedestrian”. A person suspected of a crime due to a citizen crime report with a good description, though, is not a random pedestrian.

    matt d (7b78f2)

  12. bud (30d398) — 9/18/2014 @ 9:24 am – I have still not seen the assertion that the call was anonymous by the police. If you have a link, please provide.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  13. from personal experience, LAPD asks the caller if they want to give their name and a return number, but they will definately have a recording of the original call, regardless of whether or not the caller id’d themselves, and may even have the calling number info, even if they didn’t call 911.

    also, depending on if they called the non-emergency dispatch number, the caller would have likely been on hold, since the wait time to that number can run 10-20 minutes sometimes, depending on call volume. if so, the happy couple was likely “busy” for quite some time…

    i still think it likely that this was a poorly thought out publicity stunt by two self-absorbed idiots.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  14. hopelessly OT for this thread, but i never would have seen this w/o the TMZ link, so blame Pat…

    Mylie Cyrus, or, as i call her, Miss Decorum, may be in legal trouble down in the real Mexico (as opposed to #Failifornia)… they apparently actually take offense when you use their national flag as a stage prop…

    in case you have to be told, link may well be NSFW 😎

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  15. bud– once more in short sentences and small words:
    stop random pedestrians for ID, then detain: No.
    This person was not a random pedestrian but a possible participant in an offense reported by a third party.

    Your blathering on about immigration has nothing to do with this.

    My advice: get smart and/or get a life.

    Gramps, the original (7adb80)

  16. “from personal experience, LAPD asks the caller if they want to give their name and a return number”

    redc1c4 – My experience from here is that when the policeman says “somebody” called, as he did in this case, they know who called but don’t plan on telling you unless you push them to tell you who complained, which Ms. Django did not.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  17. Wonder if she knows that fireman in Oakland that got busted for race baiting.

    BradnSA (eae2b5)

  18. She now has a couple additional seconds added to her fifteen minutes of fame.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  19. a boy who cried wolf thing might happen with racism generally

    but not with respect to the LAPD I don’t think

    there’s what we brilliant legal minds call a preponderance of evidence you see

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  20. Why worry about isis getting you? 100,000 minority kids turn 18(voting age) every month and almost everyone of them hating republicans! The democrat party will get you long before isis ever will! Drone strikes on minority voting booths not isis in syria will protect you more!

    mr.gop (ed493c)

  21. happy birthday lil voters!

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  22. well we can’t forget Dorner, or the Ramparts crew, well Denzel won’t let us,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  23. Yes, the democrat party has been very busy instilling hate in youths. Just like the Nazi’s instilled hate, just like the communists instill hate so do those hateful un-American democrats. It’s a real crime that a major political party instills hate, kills babies and boo’s God. What a bunch of f’d up people!

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  24. That narrative didn’t “collapse,” it just wasn’t sufficiently persuasive for criminal convictions. There’s a difference.

    Leviticus (06c624)

  25. “I can easily imagine onlookers thinking there is prostitution going on here.”
    And in these times, women being all over their boyfriends in public equals prostitution because?
    Oh right, because the couple was interracial – no matter how much you folks tap dance pass the obvious.

    Mike Giles (930031)

  26. 25. >i> because the couple was interracial

    It is an example of Bayes theorem. The probability of prostitution was obviously higher if the couple was interracial. When they produced IDs it dropped again. Maybe just the fact that they produced IDs.

    It wasn’t only an issue of prostitution but of lewd behavior in public. But the cop himself had seen nothing, so how he could have done anything anyway? It was a routine check- for what exactly? Outstanding warrants? To see if they had they done the same thing before, and been taken to court?

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  27. re:

    I can easily imagine onlookers thinking there is prostitution going on here.”
    And in these times, women being all over their boyfriends in public equals prostitution because?
    Oh right, because the couple was interracial – no matter how much you folks tap dance pass the obvious.

    It was Ms. Watts’ boyfriend who brought prostitution into the conversation, and perhaps Ms. Watts should reconsider her relationship with him since he equates interracial couples with prostitution, and not the LAPD (or the blog host). Patterico makes no mention of the interracial nature of the couple because it is irrelevant to the behavior which drew the attention of the authorities.

    max (4fdf98)

  28. i’m not clicking for to see the pictures btw it feels disrespectful somehow, them being married and all

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  29. having sex in a car, in broad daylight, on a public street is certainly an indicator that the act may involve prostitution.

    however, lewd behavior, even by a married couple, interracial or otherwise, is a crime, and should be investigated by the police if it is reported to them.

    trying to make this a RAYCISSSSS issue is BS. if my wife and i were to both lose our minds, and do the same thing, in the same location,at the same day & time, in her Mercedes, LAPD would respond the same way, as they should.

    your race card is over limit Mike… get a new schtick.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  30. But would it have an equal probability of being reported in the first place?

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  31. And in these times, women being all over their boyfriends in public equals prostitution because?
    Oh right, because the couple was interracial – no matter how much you folks tap dance pass the obvious.

    Seriously, Mike? And what racist slur towards us is “you folks”? Just so you know, women being all over their “boyfriends” in public does not equal prostitution. However, a woman being all over a man in public could indicate prostitution. The cop would not have known he was her boyfriend or husband or just another John unless he investigated, now would he you racist? And when a citizen makes a complaint about something they believe is odd going on the police have the duty to investigate don’t they? Or should they not investigate because the couple in question are interracial? I think if the cops failed to investigate just because the couple was interracial would be a racist response.

    Are you really one of those nuts who believes everything is racist?

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  32. racism is when you pick on someone of a different race (google it)

    to say this is racist is sexist cause of you’re acting like the LAPD was more intent on victimizing the woman here than the guy

    but in real life what happens most often is the piggy pigs pick on the men and leave the poor bless-her-heart-not-her-fault hooker alone

    Los Angeles police and prosecutors are cracking down on prostitution. But this time they have a new mindset. They are targeting johns and pimps more often and with harsher penalties, but aiming to treat the women as victims of sex trafficking who need counseling and a way off the streets more than a night in jail.

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  33. But would it have an equal probability of being reported in the first place?

    yes… it’s an upscale part of town, and such things are unseemly.

    but then again, the people who live in the rough part of Van Nuys call the cops for the same thing all the time & LAPD responds to those calls too.

    crime is crime: it amazes me that some people just don’t get that. lewd acts in public are illegal, no matter where they occur.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  34. hell, a couple of years back, there were a young, white, couple rolling around in the secluded portion of a park near my house. not sure if they were in the act or just in foreplay, but i called it in, the cops came, rousted them, checked their id’s etc… i don’t remember if anyone was cited or arrested, but the incident came to an end, and they were never seen again.

    to not call in crime is to invite more of it in the area. only a fool doesn’t pick up the phone

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  35. “I can easily imagine onlookers thinking there is prostitution going on here.”
    And in these times, women being all over their boyfriends in public equals prostitution because?
    Oh right, because the couple was interracial – no matter how much you folks tap dance pass the obvious.
    Mike Giles (930031) — 9/18/2014 @ 2:15 pm

    Where do you live, and why are you so racist??? I live in deep south Texas and interracial couples don’t get a second look any more. Your racist imagination will have to find another meme to attack “us folks”.

    BradnSA (17ed68)

  36. #25 LOL. Boning in public is “normal!”

    To think otherwise is racist.

    Too much chutzpah with these kids …..

    Rodney King's Spirit (8b9b5a)

  37. “Oh right, because the couple was interracial – no matter how much you folks tap dance pass the obvious.”

    Until Chef BoyToy whined about feeling like he was treated like a John and her a prostitute, it was never at issue. That is a mythical narrative that emerged based on his whiny feelings.

    JD (fe9d30)

  38. #25
    I don’t see anywhere in the incident where either those who called in or the law enforcement responding said anything about prostitution.
    The husband pushed that narrative…

    Sex in the car is common in high prostitution areas and in the higher crime areas can spill out of the car, but it seems to me that if a prostitute and her trick want to stay out of trouble with the cops, they’d not draw attention to themselves by spilling out into the street unless they were pretty high.

    I actually think the bored cop felt exactly the opposite of prostitution was going on because it is not a prostitute area and sex spilling out of the car down in that neighborhood would be novel.
    In other words the total of the facts available to the cop add up to:
    1. people reported couple was having sex spilling out of the car
    2. not an area known for prostitution

    The cop did not accuse or insinuate prostitution or race and just was going to do an ID check and let them go if there were no warrants.

    If you are clean, the faster you produce ID, the faster you get to go home.
    There are reasons to protest, for example if your record is totally clean and they still want to search the car over a defective turn signal light and you have to be at work in 15 minutes.

    steveg (794291)

  39. Um, NOT HER HUSBAND. A boyfriend who nods at everything she says. Watch the interview of CNN. ALSO numerous folks in an office building reported seeing them: she was rocking back and forth on top of him and her bosoms were completely exposed.

    You know when numerous people in CALIFORNIA are offended, SOMETHING HAPPENED.

    wildwood15 (73b4fc)

  40. what is the difference between your wife or girl friend and a street prostitute? Anwser your wife or girl friend charges a whole lot more!

    mr.gop (2a3e34)

  41. My wife is not a Prostitute but if you think yours is then …

    Rodney King's Spirit (8b9b5a)

  42. That is Perry’s only point of reference.

    JD (fe9d30)

  43. he can’t afford either a wife, a girlfriend OR a hooker…

    hell, he damn near has to cash out his EBT card just to get his hand to talk to him.

    😎

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  44. “Um, NOT HER HUSBAND. A boyfriend who nods at everything she says.”

    That sounds suspiciously like husband behavior to me. In his case, not to do so would be RAAAAAAAACCCCCIIIIIISSSSSSTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  45. “Notice no other Hollywood elites are sticking up for her. They know the truth.”

    Patricia… if the young actress was found carrying on like that with another young actress… why, there be riots in teh streets of West Hollywood.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  46. And in these times, women being all over their boyfriends in public equals prostitution because?
    Oh right, because the couple was interracial – no matter how much you folks tap dance pass the obvious.

    Mike Giles (930031) — 9/18/2014 @ 2:15 pm

    Straight up Mike, that is effing ignorant. Skin color here was never the argument, and I can’t help you being ashamed for what ever reason of yours.

    Bill H (f9e4cd)

  47. he can’t afford either a wife, a girlfriend OR a hooker…

    hell, he damn near has to cash out his EBT card just to get his hand to talk to him.

    😎

    redc1c4 (abd49e) — 9/18/2014 @ 5:17 pm

    I’m not surprised, Red. He is probably still saving up for the replacement bumper on their car.

    Bill H (f9e4cd)

  48. 40. mr.gop (2a3e34) — 9/18/2014 @ 3:51 pm

    what is the difference between your wife or girl friend and a street prostitute? Anwser your wife or girl friend charges a whole lot more

    Channeling Rudyard Kipling?

    http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/ladies.html

    For the Colonel’s Lady an’ Judy O’Grady
    Are sisters under their skins!

    Rudyard Kipling didn’t mean that anyway, any more than Shalespeare was endorsing Falstaff’s opinions.

    Sammy Finkelman (96f386)

  49. @ bud (#7 — 9/18/2014 @ 9:24 am): State laws vary widely, with roughly half the states having some sort of stop and ID law. As mentioned by other commenters, California doesn’t have one that would apply to pedestrians. In 2004 in Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, the Supreme Court held that such laws may be constitutional at least when the initial stop that leads to the request for ID was based on “reasonable suspicion” sufficient to satisfy the requirements of the Fourth Amendment.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  50. Beldar:

    As I understand it, we have no “stop and ID” law here in People’s Great Democratic Republic. The cops must have a reason to ask for ID. That will normally be in conjunction with an investigation to a crime of any sort. You may, if you do not have ID on you, merely give your name. However, with that the cop now has the right to detain you until he ascertains your identity or his investigation is finished. At that point he can cut you loose or arrest you. If you do have ID and refuse to show it, the officer may tag you for interfering with his duties, even if you did nothing else.

    This is all something Little Miss Nubian Princess didn’t seem to get. Then again, as a typically low-info citizen screaming about “my rights” and “my race”, I’m not surprised she didn’t know much about her responsibilities.

    Bill H (f9e4cd)

  51. we don’t have to be so mean to lil miss django pickles

    she could have played this any number of ways

    she chose probably one of the most interesting ones really

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  52. Because the police had a report of a couple apparently copulating in public (and it certainly sounds like they did!), the police certainly have a duty to investigate and identify the subjects of the complaint. Mouthing off and walking away are actions of someone just asking to be arrested.

    David (6f3506)

  53. As long as you remember that Big Media is not truly about facts…

    Don’t forget the Gellman Amnesia Effect, as summarized by Michael Crichton:

    “You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well … You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues… and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate … than the baloney you just read.”

    Rich Rostrom (08a633)

  54. Oh right, because the couple was interracial – no matter how much you folks tap dance pass the obvious.

    Never forget — always remember — that 4 of the most racist or bigoted major figureheads in American history, either in public deeds or private acts (or both), were US presidents aligned with liberalism and the Democrat Party. Start with self-described progressive/liberal Woodrow Wilson (who implemented separate-but-equal segregation policies), mosey on over to Franklin D Roosevelt (of the New-Deal left, naturally, who despised Jews and ignored the success of black athlete Jesse Owens), and Harry S Truman (who excoriated conservatives — specifically with that label — on the campaign trail, and also spoke and acted like a Klanner behind closed doors) and Bill Clinton (who is known to drop the “n” word in casual conversation when expressing indignation towards black people).

    If the black actress in the car in LA had been waving signs in tribute to, say, Sarah Palin and conservatives, the left would consider that a truly obscene, outrageous, explicit act. If much of black America reflected such pro-rightwing sentiments, liberals from sea-to-shining-sea would lobby to bring back Jim Crow laws.

    Mark (c160ec)

  55. it gets better!
    there’s no way he gave this interview w/o permission from his superiors, unless he already has 20 years in, and even that could be jeopardized…

    i’d say someone downtown understands social media.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  56. “They were f—ing. He was in the passenger seat with his legs outside,” Parker says, paraphrasing a call from someone at the Art Directors Guild office, complaining about employees watching a couple having sex in a car in broad daylight with the door open, complete with a description of the make and license plate of the car and description of the couple and what they were wearing. He says at least one witness took a photo. “People don’t make this shit up.”

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  57. and, i now have my first post ever in moderation here… didn’t think to edit “5hit”

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  58. your racist, fascist LAPD in action:

    Parker says he knew the other officers were nearby when Watts walked away from him as the situation escalated, but he didn’t want to chase after her or physically confront her. “I’ve been here before, I’m not touching her. I don’t want to be accused of anything. So I requested a female officer and said, ‘Hey guys, grab that female on the phone and bring her back to me.'”

    and

    “She had no idea I was recording. So I asked her, ‘Why are you in handcuffs? He’s [Lucas] been here this whole time not in handcuffs. Tell me if someone has been disrespectful,'” Parker says he asked the actress when she returned, handcuffed and distressed, adding that the recording exonerates the LAPD in this situation. “Police officers can record surreptitiously without consent. The other officers also had their recording on. It helps the police department.”

    The LAPD confirmed it is conducting an internal investigation because of the widespread publicity surrounding the incident. If he hadn’t made the recording, Parker says, “The three of us would be relieved of duty right now.”

    Watts’ agent did not immediately return an email for comment.

    whoops!

    tell me again how this was racially motivated and not just two idiots either being stupid or trying to create a publicity stunt.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  59. Police officers can record surreptitiously without consent.

    oh good lord but a pikachu he get dizzy trying to follow along

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  60. it’s a public interaction, and while IANAL, it follows that any public event is not considered private or privileged.

    simple rule, if you don’t want anything you say used against you, STFU.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  61. or, at least be polite, civil and non-inflammatory.

    unfortunately, certain portions of society have been inculcated with the exact opposite response, and, unexpectedly, bad things happen when they act that way.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  62. i just think it’s so through-the-looking-glass that we now have lapd thugs proclaiming the right and proper goodness of having these kinds of audiovisual recording

    i bet these recording devices only work on a highly selective basis

    but some people say I’m cynical

    and I say well I’m no Betty White

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  63. these kinds of audiovisual *recordings* i mean

    happyfeet (a785d5)

  64. Its a publicity stunt.

    f1guyus (647d76)

  65. Someone help me out. How close to sex is a lap dance?

    Bill C (8ae564)


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