Issuin’ a Veto? That’s a Jailin’
Threatenin’ to issue a veto? Oooh, you better believe that’s a jailin’.
UPDATE: I think Ken White invented this phrase.
Threatenin’ to issue a veto? Oooh, you better believe that’s a jailin’.
UPDATE: I think Ken White invented this phrase.
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president food stamp this one time threatened to veto any new sanctions Congress might put on his terrorist friends in Iran
for reals it was in the news
but this is mostly just because Obama hates Jewish people I think
he wasn’t being all Rick Perry about it
happyfeet (8ce051) — 8/17/2014 @ 4:16 pmI see the special prosecutor said in his news conference that there was “probable cause” that a crime was committed. Isn’t that the standard for a warrant???
David Jay (9b0bfe) — 8/17/2014 @ 5:53 pmwhat gov perry should be indited for was putting to death an innocent man cameron willingham for murder and then obstructing justice when his cell mate admitted he made up willinghams confession to get a lighter sentence and ordering jacksons letter telling how he made up the confession at behest of prosecutors but now didn’t want innocent man to die. And then removing officials looking into wrongful execution and replacing them with his stooges who closed down investigation.
mr.gop (c83f3b) — 8/17/2014 @ 6:31 pmWill Hailer, the executive director of the Texzas Democratic Party, is still defending the indictment.
The Texas Democratic Party has made Rosemary Lehmberg their new face. #TXDemsforDrunkDrivers.
Michael Ejercito (becea5) — 8/17/2014 @ 6:40 pmUPDATE: I think Ken White invented this phrase.
Patterico (aad366) — 8/17/2014 @ 6:54 pmI have no idea how to express my problem with this indictment. It is so beyond the pale that it has no real, communicative way to explain the injustice.
Really, all I can say is just wait you lawless left. The things you are doing to Perry and Walker will result in a retribution, within the means of the law, that will make you regret your miserable existence.
Actually, probably not. The right actually does not do the things the left adore. Sometimes I wish we did, but it is better not to burrow to the bottom
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 8/17/2014 @ 8:25 pmThird World Banana Republic.
AZ Bob (34bb80) — 8/17/2014 @ 9:39 pmThis is surreal. A new nadir for partisan politics.
felipe (40f0f0) — 8/17/2014 @ 10:32 pmNonsense. Perry has never put anyone to death in his life. Nor has he had anyone put to death on his behalf. He is not an executioner or a judge, and as far as I know he has never been a juror in a capital case. He certainly wasn’t a juror in the Willingham case.
And while some doubts have been raised about that conviction, nobody can honestly say with any confidence that he was innocent. But of course you’re not honest, so you can say whatever you like.
And you imagine this proves what, exactly? What would make anyone think he told the truth the second time and not the first time? By the way, he then recanted his recantation. So if you always trust the last thing he said, then mustn’t you believe that it was true after all? What matters is that the jury either found his testimony credible, or else ignored it and convicted without it, based on all the other evidence.
More nonsense. Perry didn’t remove anyone. The terms of some members of the pardons commission had expired, so he appointed new people. What could be more natural or unobjectionable? The fact that one of the outgoing commissioners made a fuss about not being reappointed only shows what an arrogant and unsuitable person he was, and how right Perry was to appoint someone else in his place.
Milhouse (9d71c3) — 8/18/2014 @ 12:14 amI thought it was “Snort my taint.” I know Perry used that to great effect during his press conference a couple of days ago.
Bill H (f9e4cd) — 8/18/2014 @ 1:40 amOK, you’ve brought the charge. Do you have stones enough to present proof?
Bill H (f9e4cd) — 8/18/2014 @ 1:48 ampaul ryan can certainly snort someone’s taint if it will spare him the agony of speaking out loud
snort paul snort
snort like the wind
ok now shhhhh
happyfeet (8ce051) — 8/18/2014 @ 1:52 am3. mr.gop (c83f3b) — 8/17/2014 @ 6:31 pm
what gov perry should be indited for was putting to death an innocent man cameron willingham for murder
You can’t indict him for that. The entire justice system got it wrong. All you can morally indict him for is delegating the examination of this case to people who did not pay attention and.or care.
The problem was the scientific evidence of arson was false. The problem was that the whole standard for determining what was arson was wrong. And many, many, fires were labeled arson that should not have been. This was going on for years in Texas.
Now a person with “the intellectual capability of a ham sandwich” (to coin a phrase) should not be expected to realize that, or realize that there was a real issue here, especially when the defense counsel weren’t being really, really, clear about this, and he had some people telling him this was all baloney.
Sammy Finkelman (3ba0b7) — 8/18/2014 @ 8:32 amMilhouse (9d71c3) — 8/18/2014 @ 12:14 am
And while some doubts have been raised about that conviction, nobody can honestly say with any confidence that he was innocent.
There’s more than reasonable doubt. He had no motive, nor any known propensities for anything like that.
They ran a test – maybe too late – after the execution I think even – that proved that the standards for determining arson were wrong. And there was no basis for these “indicators”
of arson in the first place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham
I don’t think Texas is using this person, or these methods of determining whether something was or was arson any more. And that’s telling.
More from the Wikipedia article:
The anti-death penalty people have only themselves to blame for this miscarriage of justice. Every case is appealed, whether there is a good case or a bad case to be made, and they use the worst arguments. Nothing special, or special enough, gets done where they really have a case.
People get used to not listening.
The other evidence, I think, being the testimony of this jailhouse informant.
I don’t think that Governor Perry, to this day understands something went horribly wrong in the administration of justice in Texas. A man was executed for a murderr that never was.
Sammy Finkelman (3ba0b7) — 8/18/2014 @ 8:50 amYou don’t know that the murder never was, Sammy. There was plenty of evidence besides the forensic theory that has now been challenged.
That’s just not true. He had a history of violence, and the motive alleged at trial was that he wantred to get rid of his children. I’m always suspicious of forensic science proving a crime, because it’s always changing, and expert witnesses project far more confidence in their findings than they warrant. The Lindy Chamberlain trial was enough to prove that to me. But by the same token we shouldn’t put too much confidence in the latest theory by the same forensic scientists. Who knows but what in 20 years they’ll come up with yet another theory. So while I agree he would probably not have been convicted (or even tried) now, that doesn’t mean we should conclude that he was innocent. Maybe now he would have got away with it, that’s all.
In any case, it’s got nothing to do with Perry, who had no connection to the case. (And no, he did not have the power to pardon Willingham or commute his sentence, so any argument about whether he should have done so doesn’t begin.)
Milhouse (9d71c3) — 8/18/2014 @ 11:43 amLet’s face it, Perry’s veto and harassment of the DA is purely and simply an pathetic attempt to thwart the Public Integrity Unit’s investigation of his corporate owners.
playhouse (924917) — 8/19/2014 @ 1:12 amThat’s some imagination you’ve got. Do you also believe that 11-Sep-2001 was an inside job? That the CIA created AIDS in a lab? Or that it introduced crack into America? Were the moon landings faked? Please enlighten us.
That would be the same Ronnie Earle (note the E at the end) who cooked up the bogus prosecution of Tom DeLay. Not exactly a recommendation.
Milhouse (9d71c3) — 8/19/2014 @ 5:02 amthe Times, notes in retrospect the indictment wasa poor choice,
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/19/2014 @ 6:27 am