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7/24/2014

Russia Providing Direct Help to Ukrainian Separatists?

Filed under: General — JVW @ 2:38 pm

[guest post by JVW]

You don’t say!

Color me surprised – well, maybe not. Good thing that President Prom Queen now has all that flexibility that he promised Putin in the run-up to the 2012 elections.

- JVW

29 Responses to “Russia Providing Direct Help to Ukrainian Separatists?”

  1. Feel free to share your frustrations with the foreign policy of Dear Leader, but this would also be an interesting place to tell us how you would handle this development.

    JVW (feb406)

  2. well Volodya does seems to be moving past the dance with Saakashvilli in 2008, although no all out invasion left

    http://t.co/N9lUQeRU6u

    narciso (ee1f88)

  3. How about re-offering the missile defense system to the Poles again and maybe all the other Eastern bloc. That and start shipping natural gas to the Ukraine. But all that would take huevos.

    bald01 (096663)

  4. A comment at Hotair re Ukraine v. Russia:

    “Maybe Obama can go over there with his motorcade.
    It seems to stop everything else wherever it goes.”

    askeptic (efcf22)

  5. Don’t worry everybody. We’ll give them a very stern warning.

    Dejectedhead (a094a6)

  6. “Russia providing direct help to Russians pretending to be Ukrainian separatists”

    FIFY

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  7. The NATO meeting where they decided to not admit Ukraine, was a message to Putin. And he was listening.

    Mike Giles (930031)

  8. The last Clancy “Jack Ryan” book had just this conflict in the Ukraine as the backdrop. President Ryan dealt with Russian help for the “Separatists” by sending in a few squadrons of attack helicopters to even up the odds. Not expecting Obama to do anything but whine.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  9. Frankly, it should really be up to the Dutch to send attack helicopters or fighter jets to pound the separatists inside of the Ukrainian border, but obviously they aren’t up to the task. In a way it sucks that the U.S. is still the go-to nation to protect Europeans from Russia, but I guess that’s how the cookie crumbles even in the post-Cold War world. The only possible excuse I can grant to the Obama Administration is that maybe they are trying to prod Europe to carry its own weight in this century.

    JVW (feb406)

  10. There goes John Kerry under the bus.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  11. Putin keeps things murky, as he knows Obama won’t respond unless he has his face held down and rubbed in the horsesh*t

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. How about re-offering the missile defense system to the Poles again and maybe all the other Eastern bloc.

    It would take Putin 5 minutes or less to convince Obama and Kerry that the plan also required equivalent systems first be delivered to the “independent” Ukrainian separatists.

    ras (be1e0d)

  13. How would I handle this?

    I would find General Claire Chennault and give him a wing of Apache helos and tell him to find some “recently retired” helo pilots interested in “security work” in eastern Europe.

    SPQR (c4e119)

  14. “Maybe Obama can go over there with his motorcade.
    It seems to stop everything else wherever it goes.”

    Speaking of which, in terms of his attending a fundraising dinner yesterday in LA, the speech he gave before a crowd of Hollywood’s finest limousine liberals, in which he brazenly, arrogantly blamed his problems on Republicans in Congress, was quite a sight (or sound) to behold. Look up the word “gall” in the dictionary and his picture will be next to the definition.

    More disgustingly, I’m sure all the fat-cat liberals at that dinner swallowed it up like a 375-pound joker at an all-you-can-eat buffet. Even worse, all of them undoubtedly believing that they, unlike their political opposites, have cornered the market on love, tolerance, generosity and compassion.

    Mark (e0cf5e)

  15. It is a good thing President Selfie has maintained such tight relationships with so many world leaders that he can bring instant pressure and moral suasion to bear on this situation, although I am not sure exactly how much influence the Danish Pastry has in the Ukraine and in Russia.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

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    bet365???? (ef1b9e)

  17. President Dronie
    plays aerial whackamole
    with teh terrorists

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  18. Pooter, you are so isolating yourself, I am greatly concerned.

    Hey, Reg, don’t bogart that joint!

    gary gulrud (46ca75)

  19. I would find General Claire Chennault and give him a wing of Apache helos and tell him to find some “recently retired” helo pilots interested in “security work” in eastern Europe.
    SPQR (c4e119) — 7/24/2014 @ 7:43 pm

    this.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  20. SPQR, Some A-10′s would be good too.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  21. Well, the sharkmouth paint on the engine intakes would continue the historical theme …

    SPQR (c4e119)

  22. I would find General Claire Chennault and give him a wing of Apache helos and tell him to find some “recently retired” helo pilots interested in “security work” in eastern Europe.

    I was thinking F5′s or A10′s, but yeah.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  23. Speaking of A-10s, help save them from the scrap heap:

    https://mcsallyforcongress.com/

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  24. I too read the Jack Ryan book, and the Apaches would be an interesting move. Why not have the Aussies and Dutch do it though?

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  25. Heh! The Ukrainians are more likely to sell any advanced weapons we give them than they are to use them against Russia. Kiev is a pretty corrupt nest of gangsters. The only reason to be for them is that Russia is against them, and no other reason at all. How do they come down on gay marriage and transsexuals in the military, anyway?

    nk (dbc370)

  26. I have a sense that the Administration’s verbalizing (and, perhaps, Eurotrash babble) exacerbated the situation. Why not keep fairly mum and garrison the Baltic states? The Ukraine might be better off cutting loose the Crimea and border municipalities populated by ethnic Russians and husbanding their resources. We could provide equipment and intelligence for them sub rosa. Russia’s behavior in recent months has assured they’re not going to have a willingly congenial neighbor for some time.

    As a matter of pride or what have you, the dominant forces in the Ukraine appear committed to a unitary state, which is inadvisable given the Ukraine’s dimensions.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)


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